09/05/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show, with Matt Baker.

With us tonight is someone who's famously been called

And that's the pre-watershed version.

Let's ask the man who knows her best, because our guests tonight

are the Prime Minister, Theresa May, and her

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Welcome to the One Show. Let's get

down to the nitty-gritty, how is it to win a negotiation with your wife?

That's a good question. There is give and take in every marriage. I

get to decide when I take the bins out, not if. Boy job and girl jobs.

I definitely do that taking the bins out, I do the traditional boy jobs

by large. You were famously using the B word when you described how

difficult you can be. This is the three something you recognise, as

far as negotiations are concerned? When I used I was using descriptions

on a mouse, a colleague, had used for me just making the point that

when you are in negotiations you need to be tough and is right to be

tough sometimes, particularly when you're doing something for the

country. Yes, yes. Recently went on a lovely walking holiday in

Snowdonia and you came back and decided you would call an election.

Initially you said you wouldn't do that until 2020 but obviously you

had a change of mind. What was the conversation that led up to that

point and Philip, did you think, we're on holiday here, what are we

having chap for? When you are married to the PM work inevitably

intrudes. I had said we wouldn't have an election until 2020. I only

became PM last year. I think the most important thing was stability.

I wanted to give the country that stability and show we were getting

on with the Brexit process. But when we were going through the process of

triggering Article 50 it became clear that other parties were

looking ahead to disrupt negotiations and I just felt it was

important to have an election, to get a clear mandate, and then take

that forward and strengthen the UK's hand in negotiating. Because it is

going to be tough. With that particular walking holiday, did you

go to play your mind so you would get it sorted or is it something

that just happened? We went because we love walking in the Welsh

mountains. Good choice! We do love it. It is beautiful. It is! When we

get to the top. We've been up to the top ones. What was the drive back to

London like when you're decided? I don't think it was any different.

The point is, in this role you are making tough decisions. Making tough

decisions from time to time. I think the important thing is that what

ever you are looking at, whatever you're doing, do what you think is

right. And when you've decided what you think is right, just get on with

the job and get on with it. Heads down.

We're not going to be discussing politics with a capital P tonight,

because the Prime Minister will be facing a grilling from

Andrew Neil in this time slot in a couple of weeks.

So we're going to be taking a different tack, looking

at her core beliefs, her career and of course her

Jeremy Corbyn will be here before the election and we will be filming

with five other party leaders as well.

One European institution I'm sure the Mays are firmly

behind is Eurovision - just checking we're not

No. LAUGHTER Although I'm tempted to say in

current circumstances, not sure how many votes we will get! It will be

very interesting on Saturday, very interesting indeed. Well, it is

still happening. Mel Giedroyc will be

pleased about that. She and our hopeful contestant

Lucie Jones will be talking The BBC and other broadcasters,

even Facebook, are beefing up their fact-checking

during the election Young people are growing up

in a world where pseudo facts, rumour and downright invention

are presented as the truth From warnings of fake news during

the French presidential election campaign to Donald Trump in America.

Fake, Sony, fake. Knowing what to believe it's becoming more and more

difficult these days. I read something about Donald Trump leaving

his cabinet. Fake news. And I deleted it because I knew it wasn't

real. Fake news spread like wildfire thanks to social media and the click

of a button. I share it because it makes me laugh it will make others

laugh. People think, where did you get that from? A lot of people are

sharing and thinking it's real. And accepting what we read without

question may be a particular problem for young people.

It seems that more than a third of schoolchildren are quoting fake news

as fact in class and in homework, according to a survey of teachers,

who raised concerns young people are struggling to tell the difference

between what's real and what's not. So we've invited pupils from

Manchester to the Museum of science and industry, to test their ability

to read some of the latest news stories with a critical eye. Helping

us out is Alistair Reid, a press Association journalist who

specialises in social media. Where is this freak news coming

from? What's the point? Sometimes it's just people sharing something

they believe is true. Everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes it's people that

want to make money, so they make something up that people will

believe and share with their friends and that gives an advertising

revenue. Sometimes there are people that want to push a political or

social agenda. That is the more dangerous part of it.

We're going to show our pupils a selection of news headlines and

pictures and then ask one very simple question... Which ones with a

share, believing them to be true? Real Siberian unicorn remains found.

Stick your hand up if you think it's true? False? Everyone thinks it's

false. The next run on Whatsapp, someone sharing video of a hawk drop

dropping a snake on a family barbecue. Last one, the so-called

judicial branch in this country should not be able to overrule the

president of America, very unfair, lawsuits coming.

Is this true? Up until today many are prepared to trust the stories

without any idea if they are real or not, but will they change their

minds once Alistair has given them a few tips and tools for spotting

lies? First up, check who else is

reporting the story. You would think that the BBC, the

Guardian, the mail order some, if that was really happening, they

would have a story about it and it wouldn't just be on some random

website you don't know. Another good tip is to check the web

address. The website might look like the BBC,

but if it has a weird URL or web address, it's going to be fake.

Finally, take a final closer look at the pictures and if in doubt... If

you're using some browsers, right click and search Google for image

and it will search for that on the database and show you if it has come

up somewhere before. Armed with new-found knowledge, could the

pupils now stop spot story is not worth sharing customer first up the

story of a hawk dropping a snake on barbecue. Debunked. That could be

it's confirmed as a hoax. Next, what do they think of the Donald Trump

tweet? This is not his real name, so we thought that seems a bit dodgy.

And he hasn't got a verification tick. Their teacher Laura recognises

there is a problem with students sharing fake news and discusses are

often with them. We want them to have an idea of what

is true and what isn't. They are on their phones all the time. Not many

of them are going to be buying newspapers. That's where they get

their news from. Time is up, let's see how they got

on. A hawk drops a snake on a family

barbecue. Completely false. It was just made up. When I saw it I

thought, this is real because it was on YouTube and other sites, so it

surprised me the most. The Siberian unicorn... Was this true? Yes,

you're right, it was true. You have to look at different things,

research and find out if it is real. It was quite surprising.

Is this a real Donald Trump tweet? No. As you spotted, it's a parody, a

joke. At the end of the day what I have the pupils learned? The tools

were helpful to check actual facts. If something is fake by will find

out before I share it. Lots of food for thought. Of course, politicians,

they have a major responsibility in this as well.

As soon as you bring spin doctors into the mix and asking you to

present stories are not 100% true. Have you ever been in situations

like that, where you have given into the spin doctors? The way I approach

my politics, to meet I'm going out and asking people to vote for me,

asking them to put their trust in me. I think it's important I'm open

with them and tell it as it is when I'm addressing them. But we've had

our own experience of... We have. We have, way back when I was being

selected for a seat. One of the newspapers reported I would have

trouble being selected to fight the seat as a Conservative candidate

because of my new baby. We didn't have a baby. We didn't think

anything more of it until that afternoon my mother-in-law rang. My

mother rang and thought there was perhaps something we hadn't told

her. Oh, really! She was disappointed. I'm sure she was.

Let's go back to the beginning. You spoke about your mother-in-law. You

were the daughter of a vicar, very solid upbringing. Was there any

chance that you would have rebelled at all, or the values instilled

then, were those the values you have taken forward with you? Yes, I think

they are. There were several things... Very much being brought up

in a vicarage, you get to meet a whole range of different people,

from all types of backgrounds. One of the things my father taught me is

you should take people as you find them, not have any preconceptions

about people. And treat everybody equally. That was an important

lesson that I had. But of course, life in a vicarage is different. You

get so many people coming in to see you, you meet so many people in the

village. Is it right your father was a shoe salesman customer yes, he

worked at a footwear company for the whole of his career, as people did

in those days. Join to the same company in the 1940s and carried on

doing that until the time he retired. You see that upbringing and

that contact, it gives you that insight of the majority of working

Britain. Yes, I think that is the point. I've had the opportunity to

interact, to meet, to talk to people and to see an insight into people's

lives. Of course, that's what you're able to do as a member of

Parliament, of course. With people who come to you in your surgery and

so forth, you get an insight into people's lives. What is your

earliest memory of wanting to become Prime Minister? Many people say, she

didn't necessarily want it, it just happened. What is the actual truth

on that? There are one or two stories going around which I don't

recognise myself, about how early I might have thought about this. One

of the other things that I was taught by my parents is whatever job

you're doing, just get on and do your best in that job. That's how

I've approached everything in my career. So that's what I was doing,

but, of course... Sorry. I knew you were interested in politics but I

never heard to Reza say she wanted to be Prime Minister until she was

well established in the Shadow Cabinet. We were looking at some

footage. We found you, Philip, in 1986. The Conservative Party

conference. It could very much have been you, Philip. How did you decide

which I was going to stand for office and which one would do a

normal job? I don't think it was quite as thought through as that, in

a way. We were asked if one of us would like to stand for the local

council and you were very keen to stand. And you are very good at it.

It just fit at the time, work wise. Really where it all started with

University. You were studying geography, is that right? Gas. Did

you have a sense he wanted to change Britain then? I'm not talking about

being Prime Minister, just getting into politics? I wanted to become an

MP from an early age. When I was at school I wanted to become an MP. As

Philip says, when we met he knew I was interested in politics. For me

it's always been about making a difference. Because politics is

about people and it's about improving people's lives. And it's

about just feeling the decision you're taking, as I said earlier,

you have to take what you believe to be the right decision, but doing

things that really will help people to get on and have a better future.

And can you describe the minute... I think of people don't feel they

necessarily know a lot about you as the person. How did it feel when it

dawned on you, oh my gosh, I'm going to become prime this is it? Well it

studied are obviously having taken the decision to stand for the

Conservative Party leadership last summer, you think about that. I

think it absolutely dawns on you when you are walking through the

doors of number ten for the first time in that role. It's a huge

privilege, but you also do feel a huge sense of responsibility Socina

I'm sure. I think being a spouse is very humbling. You think, so many

people are entrusting their futures to Theresa and the team she leads. I

think that's incredible, really. Interesting you talking about the

team. Since the year. It's always been about the Conservative Party.

As far as the marketing that we've seen over the last few days is

concerned, it's very much been about you, Prime Minister, and vote for

me, Theresa May and my local candidates as well. How comfortable

are you sitting with that kind of... It's quite presidential in that way.

It's about the Conservative Party, and it is about a team. I am the

leader of the party and the team. But it is also about at this

election, the choice is about leadership. About individuals,

right? It is about a strong and stable government, strong and stable

leadership. We mentioned earlier, tough negotiations are coming ahead.

There will be tough times getting Brexit right. We need that stability

and certainty to be able to do that. But it is not just about Brexit, it

is taking the contributor Brexit as well. We are going to move on.

A new Banksy appeared in Dover on Sunday morning.

Banksy if art, but it is not quite my cup of tea.

Like them or not, many Banksies have disappeared for various reasons.

Adebanji Alade has made a lightning tour of those that still survive.

Graffiti, like it or not, it is part of urban life and there is one

street artist that has done more to popularise this art form than any

other. The name, of course, is Banksy. From Bethlehem to the Bronx,

this enigmatic artist has left his marks around the world. But many of

his artworks have now been lost forever. I'm on a One Show challenge

to track down as many surviving Banksys as I can in a day. There are

around 20 Banksys left in the UK, and half of them are on the streets

of his hometown, Bristol. It is 7am, my first Banksy of the day is also

one of his most iconic. I have seen this picture in the

news, it has a lot impact. It is an amazing piece, but I need to go to

my next one now, so taxi! Banksy is one of Britain's most famous

artists, but one by one, his works are slowly disappearing. And in some

cases, they are even being sold off. It's gone!

It turns out, this door sold for over ?400,000. I will have to do

with a picture of what it should be. Off to the next one.

I am into portraits myself, I love it.

Make a sharp left, I am trying to get to as many Banksys as I can in a

day. This is mad! This is the last place I would

expect to find a Banksy, a school playground. In 26 team, this school

decided to name one of their schoolhouses after the artist. I

wrote to him to tell him, and the next thing I knew, he came and did a

beautiful masterpiece on a school wall. A note on the drainpipe. It is

easier to get permission. Out of everywhere, banks came to us.

Halfway through the day and time is running out to sea as many Banksys

as I can. A train ride from London is a chance to have a go at my own

inspired artwork. I am pairing a stencil right now. A quick way to

use spray paint without the spray cans.

Will it pass as a Banksy? You will have to wait and find out.

Meanwhile, the chase is back on. Photographer Joe Eckstein has been

documenting graffiti art three years, and is an expert in all

things Banksy. Taxi! I think he is quite an anomaly. His artwork has a

certain access ability, and the humour within it, also based on

comments of what is happening in society at the time.

What do you think is the fate of all of these works? A lot gets destroyed

because of the industry. It is fair game for any other street artist to

come along and have their artwork added to it.

I can see it already. It is like she has fallen from the building. I

think it is called Shop Until You Drop. We are close to a Banksy now.

OK. Hold it. I am not a big fan of heights. It says, "If graffiti

changed anything, it would be illegal." I don't know if it will be

on view when they finish the development or whether it will be

cut up and put in a museum. I can't say for sure. Got it!

I really like this one. Because it is almost like a plein air painter.

I do a lot of it myself. Banksy is an adept oil painter himself. We

have something in common, then! It has been an artistic treasure hunt

like no other. 13 hours ago, I started in Bristol before zooming to

London. Before 8pm, I reached my final Banksy of the day, Double

Yellow Lines. This one has been covered by graffiti all over. What

about my own Banksy? It might not be up to his standard, but if there is

one thing I have learned throughout today, it is that works like this

are not going to be here for long. So catch them while you can!

He is very passionate. Adebanji was quite excited, very.

Let's talk about you as a couple if we can.

You were introduced to each other at Oxford Univeristy,

Philip, first impressions of your wife to be. What a lovely girl, and

she still is. Did you fancy her instantly? Absolutely. It was love

at first sight, absolutely. And likewise, by Mr? Yes. It sounds like

this is your life. You were married by your father. We have your wedding

photo here. So many faces. When you look at that photo, what memories

does that bring for you, Prime Minister? Those are my parents, and

my maternal grandmother. It brings back huge memories of a very happy

childhood. We talked earlier about a life in a vicarage, which is

slightly different, but it is very happy, very stable. I was very

fortunate, very stable. And crucially, for my parents, they were

very much of the view that it was up to me what I wanted to do. They did

not say you couldn't do that because you are a girl or this. And time is

precious with them at that point, because a year or so later, things

didn't go too well. Not that we were to know that at that point. Very

much a tragic photograph, I'm sure. Behind every busy woman is always a

strong and very supportive husband. What are the downsides, Philip, in

being married to the Prime Minister? First of all, it is an enormous

privilege for Theresa to be doing this job, for me to be there

alongside her. I get to meet the most fascinating and interesting

people. I get to see things that I wouldn't otherwise do. It is a huge

privilege. There isn't really a downside, but obviously, if you are

the kind of man that expects his tea on the table at 6pm every evening,

you could be a bit disappointed. Do you make dinner? From time to time.

Theresa is a very good cook. I have a large number of cookery books. At

home, we live in the flat in Downing Street but go home at the weekend,

and that is where my cookery books are. At the end of the day, who

knows what time it is because every day is different, but when you get

home, do you try to leave work at number ten, and Philip, what do you

see your role as being here? I try to give Theresa as much support as I

can. That is really important. It is a very tough job. A lot of tough

decisions and things that you had to work very hard at. I am there to

give Theresa as much support as I can. She has always given me

support. It is a two-way street. And when you have experienced so much

beat others' lives, because you met so young, and all of this has

happened to you, you must feel like you are one, as opposed to being

individuals. We are still individuals. But we know each other

really well. When you have known each other as long as we have, you

get to know each other really well. Who has banned the red box on the

bedroom? It has never made an appearance. I have never had to try

and get it out! How happy are you with the whole shoe thing, Prime

Minister? Do you wish it was just left B, you enjoy your fashion, and

everyone comments on it. I like buying nice shoes, so yet, it gives

me a reason to go and buy some more! LAUGHTER

Can have a serious side to it. It has happened about 4-5 years ago, I

was in the lift in the House of Commons, and a young woman was in

the lift. I said, "Nice shoes". She said, your shoes got me involved in

politics. Through something quite normal, she got interested in

politics and was working in the House of Commons. What is your shoe

equivalent, Philip? That is a very good question, actually. I quite

like ties, although I am not wearing one this evening, jackets and stuff

like that, fairly normal stuff. Is there much space for you in the

wardrobe at number ten Downing St? I get a little section! We are going

to say thank you for joining us. A pleasure to meet you both.

Mel Giedroyc is in Kyiv tonight ahead of Saturday's final.

We are having a preshow dance. Look at everyone dancing.

Welcome to the International Exhibition Centre, Kyiv,

It is the Eurovision Song Contest We're getting ready for the first

semi-final this evening 8pm on BBC Four - of course the UK along

with four other counties have a 100% qualification record for the final

the second semi final will be on Thursday.

From one Jones to another, Lucie Jones. I am relaxed, having a good

time, enjoying the festivities today.

It is all about shoes, you are talking shoes in the studio, look at

what we have here, let's pan down, she is going shoe less, like Sandie

Shaw, the first UK win of Eurovision. The One Show, Lucie, was

worried that your toes would get cold in Kyiv, so they have winged,

expressed delivered a pair of slippers. Thank you! Theresa May,

are you jealous of those, about you are. Put those on. Let's remind you,

gang, while Lucie does that, are you all right? They are a little bit

small and on the snug side. I have gone without shoes as well in honour

of Lucie. I have got a baroque, don't come close. It is fine, thank

you. Let's remind you of Lucie's song.

# I will never give up on you # We are partying in Kiev.

It is marvellous. We are revving up this week. The semifinal is on

Thursday. Lucie will be in all her glory on Saturday, an estimated 180

million viewers globally will be choosing in, Lucie. Good luck from

all of us. Thank you. Watch tonight, there is a lot to see. Good luck to

Lucie at Eurovision on Saturday. A reminder that Jeremy Corbyn

will be here soon and we will be filming with five other party

leaders as well. I'll be here tomorrow

with the Hairy Bikers, Virginia McKenna and Kasabian,

who'll be performing live, and the Pink Floyd pig will

fly over Broadcasting House! It's cold.

Tastes a bit like avocado. And soon we're all

going to be eating them. Four crickets have the same amount

of calcium as a glass of milk, and a dung beetle,

twice the protein of beef.