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Hello and welcome to the The One Show with Matt Baker and Alex Jones.

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Tonne, we are joined by a blond bombshell who really knows how to

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shake those hips! LAUGHTER

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Not that one! Not that one. No! LAUGHTER

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That was brilliant. It's Zoe Ball. CHEERING

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It had to be done. Very good. do you think, Boris for Strictly?

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would love to see Boris on Strictly. Boris Johnson doing the rumba. Is

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that something we really need to see, I am not sure? He would have

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something to say to the judges, but his speech at kich conference today

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was -- Conservative Party Conference was funny.

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I was pleased to see that you called me a blond haired mop. If I

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am a mop then Dave you are a broom and your colleague George Osborne,

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the dustpan. Every single chocolate hobnob in the world is made in

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London! It is actually true!

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It is incredible. You never ever know what you are going to get.

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There has been so much interest in Boris that the papers came up with

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a new term, they are calling it Borismania. Are people outside the

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media bubble as interested in him as the press would have us believe.

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We went to Hamilton in Glasgow to find out.

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I don't think he would make a good Prime Minister because I don't

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think people take him seriously. is a character, you know, but as a

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Prime Minister, I couldn't imagine it. I think he would be an idiot.

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I think he needs a haircut. But he is a good people person. He knows

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how to work a crowd. They all seem as bad as each other

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so what difference does he make? have been a Labour supporter and if

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I was going to vote for Tory I would vote for him.

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I think he is a person of fun and humour. Whether I would trust him

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or not would be a different story. A mixed bag there.

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Indeed, Justin is here now. Justin, is Boris, do you see him as a

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liability or an asset for David Cameron? That's a loaded question,

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isn't it? I think at the moment, it has got to be, it has got to be...

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A long long pause! He has got to be an asset. He is popular and not

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just with the Tory Tory grass-roots. This is a man who won a second-term

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as London mayor when the Tory party were doing badly in the polls and

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David Cameron called him a rockstar saying, "I want more people like

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him in the party." He is a bumbling funny man, he can laugh off almost

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anything. Yet behind that, people who know him say he is strategic

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and ambitious and remember, he has never ruled out a leadership bid.

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So, he is an asset, but if he was ever to challenge David Cameron he

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would become a big liability to him. He does deny he wants to be Prime

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Minister? He sort of denies. He said would he be a better leader

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than David Cameron? He says that's unverifiable.

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But Zoe, zuneg he could be a -- do you think he could be a Prime

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Minister? I find that idea terrifying!

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LAUGHTER You know, I hope not, you know. But

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I'm not going to get into politics right now because I might have a

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rant. Brighton, it was home to the Lib

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Dems. Does Brighton change a lot? It was quiet actually I have to say.

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I didn't see a lot of people around. They set-up the barriers. I drive

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past and think, "Who goes to it?". Membership is down, isn't it?

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Membership of of political parties is down massively. In the 50s the

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Tories had 2.8 million members and Labour had over one million members

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and now they are struggle to get 200,000, but add together, Labour,

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Lib Dems and the Tories, they have less than half of the one million

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members the caravan club has! Those divisions that used to define

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the parties that used to make you say, "I am Labour, I am Tory" have

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evaporated. A lot of people think hover you vote for -- whoever you

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vote for doesn't shape the Britain we live in anymore.

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Is Is this the end of the conference season? No. There is one

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more. The SNP are having their conference in Perth on Thursday

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next week. Last week you went up to the Labour

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Labour Conference? I saw a similar picture. It was quieter. We wanted

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to go and find out how ordinary people viewed these party

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conferences. Let's have a look.

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You turn if you want to. Party conferences have been the

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launchpad for some of the most defining moments in political

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history. The lady is not for turning.

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Scenes of elections and debates, of contests and dramas.

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And you end in the grotesque chaos of a Labour Council, a Labour

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Council hiring taxis to scuttle around a city, handing out

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redundancy notices to its own workers.

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A place to air your grievances, make key policy decisions and make

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statements. Go back to your constituency and

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prepare for Government. The party conference season is

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almost over. They have been rallying their troops and

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rehearsing their battle cries. There are cheers and applause for

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the big set piece speeches, but say conference regulars, something is

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missing. Across the UK's political parties, conference goers are

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asking, "Where is the passion of old?". That's what I'm going to

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negotiate for and I ask the conference to support me.

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Attendance at party political conferences was at its peak in the

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late 1990s. In 1997, 25,000 people are estimated to have attended the

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Labour Party Conference alone. This year, Labour and the Lib Dems

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together only attracted 16,000. So what has changed? Back in the day,

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30 years ago, there were decisions in conference which were lively and

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that really mattered and that were going to change the world and make

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a big difference to people's lives. You were making history happen on

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the conference floor and that that mattered. Neil Lawson is a party

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conference regular. There is less people. There are a lot of empty

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stands. They are trade fairs. You are kind of rent a mob.

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Does the conference literature back this up? I have pro shures from

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this year's -- brochures from this year's party conferences and look

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at these from 20 years ago. In 1992, the conference agenda seemed to

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take up the whole brochure, now it is it is reduced to a page, the

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rest is used as advertising space or exhibition information. These

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days, they look more like trade fair pamphlets, there there seems

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to be less debail out and discussion, less opportunity for

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ordinary members to get involved. These days you would be forgiven

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for thinking that party leaders are more interested in hearing from the

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lobbyists who can pay up to �1500 to be there.

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People interested in doing politics for a living. People really want to

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get involved, they are interested, but they are bored with the

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political menu being served up by the three parties.

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Conferences are big money spinners these days. Last year, the

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Conservatives conference income was over �4 million. The Lib Dems was

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over �1.5 million. There is people selling suits in there. Selling

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suits? LAUGHTER

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At a party conference? At a party conference.

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It is focused on what we really need if we are going to win a

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general election and that's what we want.

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It is difficult to get an exciting conference because the next

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election is years away. I share most members frustration that there

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isn't more policy. For some the party conference

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season is a major event on the political kal calendar. Conference

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performs a different function to it did in the 70s and 80s, it is less

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a forum for arguing about policy and initiating policy and more a

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Forum for presenting parties to a wider public.

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Thank you very much, Justin. A few questions who goes to those

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and what goes on inside? We are so pleased It Takes Two is back!

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It is so exciting. This evening, Alex was trying to

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run in and out of the dressing room to watch the rehearsals.

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haven't interviewed your dad. is on the show tomorrow night. I

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went to the studio on Saturday night and know I know -- now I know

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how our families felt. I had clammy palms when I saw him go up to the

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balcony, I needed to pace. He says he wasn't nervous, but I think he

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did look nervous. Have you been trying to throw loads

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of information at him? When he told me he was doing it, it was my uncle

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Paul's 60th birthday party and he called me into the office and he

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said, "I have been waiting to tell you this." I thought, "Oh my

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goodness, he is ill." He said, "No, it is worse. I'm doing Strictly

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Come Dancing." I was like, "What?" Oh brilliant because he has so much

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energy and he would call me. I only knew a couple of weeks ago. He

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would go "OK, this is a quickstep and I am hopping on one foot for a

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minute-and-a-half." I am like, "It is going to be fine." Bless him,

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yeah. Week one is down, done and dusted.

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Would you say your your dad is an embarrassing dad? Not now.

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We caught up with him. Look at this and you might change your mind.

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Hi, Zoe, do you remember remember when I came up to Manchester when

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you were working there or nots working there and I took you to a

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restaurant and you were eyeing the waiters as they went past. I crept

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my hand over the table and put my han on my hand on yours and you

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realised what I had done and you went, "It's me dad."

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That's brilliant. That's brilliant. He held my hand and when the waiter

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came up, he said, "I am know I am 50 and you are 19, but why can't it

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work?" LAUGHTER

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We don't think he embarrassed himself on Saturday. What did you

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think? I thought he did really well. I was relieved it was over and he

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got through it and he didn't make mistakes and he had a difficult

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time because Aliona hurt her foot. When the judges, I actually, I

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don't think I heard what Craig said because I was just so relieved it

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was over and Len said he has given the oldies... He is on the moves.

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He is on the beat there. As long as he doesn't sing-along! Craig said

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don't do singing! No, he didn't embarrass me. I was really proud of

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him. Considering, it was the first week,

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when everybody was a bag of nerves like Victoria Pendleton.

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The cha-cha is a hard one. Once it is gone, it is gone. That recovered

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and the doubt sets in your head, but she will be back. She is an

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Olympian and she is amazing. Watch her, she will be fantastic.

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This is the thing... You are like the shoulder to cry on, aren't you?

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When it gets, because it is intense, Strictly, but with It Takes Two you

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can come down and pour your heart out? You know what people are going

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through. Like Jason Donovan, "Take vitamins, you will be fine.".

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calm down. But what about Lisa Riley? She is at the top of the

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leaderboard. I had a feeling about those two. My dad said watch Lisa.

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I noticed Craig said something disparaging like "good luck." The

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energy when they walked out on to the floor. She is amazing, but it

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is like you never know until you see people dance how the

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partnership is working and there are some partnerships you will

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never forget like Russell and Flavia and look at these two, I

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think they're going to do amazing. Look at her. She is so sexy as well.

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And... Can you imagine the American I think it's a good thing. You get

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to have them compared to Richard Foster of it is judged on that

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performance, isn't it? You did the dance off INEOS series? I never had

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to. But it was in the series? Usually at that point people go, we

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are going, we are going. Hopefully it will add a bit more drama.

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Takes Two is back on weekdays at 6:30pm on BBC Two.

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We wanted to make sure that Zoe is not the only person being

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embarrassed by her dad tonight. We have three more, all prepared to

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Strictly Dad Dancing is coming up next. Before that, here is a

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brilliant bit of Strictly gossip. There is one contestant in this

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year's competition, she has a secret passion that can only be

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satisfied by going into the woods in the dead of night. I heard about

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this. It seems that Fern Britton can't get enough of bats.

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We know that she likes to chat, but what is not commonly known is that

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she is batty about bats. So, where does your interest start,

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childhood? Yes, but not by seeing Real bats. It is because I read

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Dracula. The electrifying picture of him turning into a bat, climbing

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up the castle windows, standing at the window with his huge wings.

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Terrifying, but fantastic. It became that romantic, scary debt.

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Your home county, Buckinghamshire, is a real hot spot for them. It's

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really exciting. The area of burn wood forest is bat

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central, with some of the biggest, smallest and rarest all living here.

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John Hodgkins helps to monitor these small mammals. There's about

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13 species as a whole. It's a high number, there are only 18 species

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in the country. So, for this particular bit of forest, it's

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really good. What is it that they like about this bit? There is still

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a lot of ancient wood land. That is what they are lighting, lots of

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insects for eating as well. Because this woodland is so vital for bats,

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they are monitored very closely, being caught during the summer and

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early autumn to see which species are present. But delicate bats need

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a delicate system. It is called Harper trapping. A speaker sent out

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social calls. They are at a frequency well outside of our

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hearing range. They are too concerned about there being another

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bat in the area. They don't notice them, they hit them gently and

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slide down. It's like a lobster pot. And it doesn't hurt? I have watched

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it happen and it is quite gentle. There are a lot of midges, that's a

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good thing, because they will be out. To minimise disturbance, they

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only catch them for an hour and a half. They checked the traps every

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There we go, we have got a bat, that side. There is another one,

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down the bottom. We will get some bags and get them out. It's just

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like Christmas, because we have no idea what is in the bag. Our first

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bat. It is a brown, long eared bat. You can see those enormous ears.

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Look at him! Oh, my God. It's like Dobbin. This is the ear, and the

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bits sticking out? It is another part of the ear, returning

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echolocation back into them. next one is one of Britain's

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smallest. You can see, straight away, the face is very different.

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They are tiny. They are as small as little field mice. Like a harvest

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mouse. With wings! Over 90 minutes, we catch nine from three different

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species, including one of Britain's largest. As soon as they are

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measured, weighed and tracked, they Jo this has been a wonderful

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evening. It has been absolutely thrilling. There she goes! I am so

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thrilled that I felt that they were magical, to meet them and know that

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they really are, there is a real charm about them. You do fall in

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love with them. Not like Dracula at As we said before the film, for one

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night only we are going to be hosting Strictly Dad Dancing.

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musical sting and everything! We have three dancing dads and three

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more to five children. But who is the daddy of embarrassing dancing?

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We don't have the glitter ball, for I bet you cannot wait to get your

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feet into does. Let's meet our first contestant. This is Robin

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She refuses to dance with him, so she dances -- he dances around the

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house when her friends are over. says he has his own special bust a

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All of the contestants have chosen their own music, which probably

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makes it worse. Robin is going to be dancing to Billie-Jean, by

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I don't think any amount of therapy Especially because he's wearing a

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Our second contestant is Carlton Whitaker from Blackburn. And his

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16-year-old son, Alex. Alex is studying at ballet school and you

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want to be a professional dancer. Have you given him any tips, or are

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you going to do as Latin freestyle and hope for the best? He seems to

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think I got my moves from him. But I think I got them from my mother.

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So, Robin got seven. His Carlton higher or lower? He is higher, he

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One more to come after this next film. Can we bear it? It's time for

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a bit of upwardly-mobile gardening. This is actually better than

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Strictly! Anyway, now we get to see a vertical garden with lofty

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ambitions. During the Troubles in Northern

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Ireland's, they began directing so- called peace walls to separate

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amenities that could not live side- by-side. There were 88 of them,

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mostly in Belfast, covering 17 miles. Nearly 45 years on, they are

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still here. But with the Troubles in the past behind us, at least

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there is talk of bringing them down. Just around the corner in east

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Belfast, they created a new living garden wall. 500 square metres in

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size, utilising nearly 7000 plants. This living wall is about bringing

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It was created by a local community group called the East Belfast

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Mission, down the side of their new centre. The building will provide a

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shared space for both Protestant and Catholic families to enjoy

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together. I'm keen on gardening, but what possessed you to put a

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garden up there? Well, this is a very heavily built-up area. One of

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the ways we wanted to regenerate it was by introducing green space that

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was capable of being used by all parts of our community here. We

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have introduce retail units, we have a cafe. All sorts of community

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facilities, where people can meet, as a way of bringing people

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together. We will have a cup of tea by the green wall, we will fall in

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love by the green wall. It's very impressive, can we have a look? Not

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a simple walk out the back door. To attend this garden, you have to go

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50 metres up. This is all good fun! In a special lift like this one, a

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cherry picker. Gravity rules out soiled beds staying in place for

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the plants and flowers to take root. Instead, they dared them into a

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specially designed, man made felt. The whole wall is covered in this

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felt. They were grown in individual pots and the whole route was taken

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out and inserted into the pocket. All that is there is the

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established bulb, popped into a packet of felt? Look at the

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beautiful plants, geraniums, gorse, honey suckle. Right at the top,

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good old Irish word blind. -- would bind. Very much a Gaelic theme.

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What we have tried to do was replicate the Irish landscape. The

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geraniums are meant to represent fields. Then, running the full

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length of the wall, Irish hedgerows. What we have got is the Irish

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landscape, replicated in to the inner city, on the wall. Belfast

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get more than its fair share of rain fall. But at this 90 degree

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angle, the plants cannot rely on it to keep them watered and fed.

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Instead, a computer controlled irrigation system pumps rainwater

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and vital nutrients to the plants by pipes running 15 metres high.

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Built into the wall are plenty of sensors that measure the moisture

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content, they measure the health of the various plants. We can monitor

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that by computer. We can adjust it, depending on the weather, how much

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rain we have had, etc. This system managers all of us. So, the poor

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old gardener, with his finger, is now redundant! In an area where

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walls have such a negative meaning in the past, what about this one?

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think it's absolutely fantastic. It brings a nice bit of green to a

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rather dull road. It's a green place. It's almost the city centre.

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It's really nice. I think anything in this country that moves us

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forwards is fantastic. The work at rebuilding the community is going

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to take place inside the centre. But it's a garden wall that has got

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people talking around here. This is one garden that has laid down its

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The atmosphere in here is incredible. It is time for the

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final Strictly Dad Dancing competitor. Who would will get

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their hands on this lovely slipperball? Is it possible for

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Kevin Eggleston from Somerset and his 15-year-old daughter, Chelsea,

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to be awarded 10? Can that be done? Considering he has chosen Little

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Mix as his song, it is quite a random choice. All of your teachers

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