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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

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Tonight a woman who sows, makes and bakes. And a man who can knit a

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bunch of A-listers into a showbiz creation. It's Kirstie Allsopp!

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Graham Norton. APPLAUSE

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See what we did there? All afternoon to write that. Good. Time

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well spent. Very good. As well, well we were rummaging around in

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the archives as well because we want to show if you had ever met

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before. We have once. Hold your tongue and have a look at this.

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It's... Kirstie Allsopp off the television! We hired a video camera

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to film. We made a topless upside down confession video. We overslept

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the next day and didn't take the video camera back. Then I

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remembered the video was in the cam ra. I rang her up and said please,

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please don't watch that film... She's gone. At least you were

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wearing tights. Yes. Good news we've made some alterations to our

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sofa and it could flip at any time. Keep your legs together. Now our

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history boy Dan and his history dad Peter are also in tonight. If you

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saw last night's show, Dan, don't worry we're not going to get your

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dad to do any dancing. We did Strictly dad dancing. It went on

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and on into the early hours. Brilliant. The reputation of was

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going on in our banks is still at rock bottom. Reports of money

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laundering, rate rigging and rogue trading are some of the scandals

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linger on -- lingering on. Not that we're blaming ordinary bank workers.

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Please don't write in. My mum being one of this em. All that being said,

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if you live in a rural community, the chances are you wouldn't want

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them to disappear completely. Johnathan Maitland wept to find out.

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-- went to find out. Criccieth a thriving seaside town

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in North Wales with a butcher, Delly, grossers, everything you'd

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expect for a town of nearly 2,000 people. What about banks? This

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place was a bank once, now it's a curry house. This was a bank too

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until it became a Chinese. This place, however, is still a bank.

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But not for much longer. Glenys Owen's late husband used to work at

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the HSBC but now it's going to go. She was paid a final visit and was

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given a souvenir, his old pen holder. It's very, very sad and

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very, very inconvenient and we're all going to miss it. You seem

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quite emotional about it? Yes, I had a good cry this morning, yes.

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The banks say, look, they're a business, can you bank on the

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internet now. I don't have the internet sorry. Times have moved on.

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I know, but we don't all have to move on, do we? The shop keepers

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are unhappy too because they've relied on the bank's over the

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counter services to bring people into their town and their shops.

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They won't come to Criccieth any more and do their shopping here any

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more. I don't know how it's going to go. Honestly, we don't know.

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We're all worried that's the thing. We are worried. Customers wanting

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those bank services will now have to travel to the neighbouring town

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five miles away. But that's not all. Now when this place closes the 24-

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hour free cashpoint will disappear as well. There will still be a

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cashpoint in town, in a local pub, but it will charge a fee for every

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withdrawal. Criccieth depends entirely on tourism for its living.

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Tens of thousands of people come here on a daily basis in the summer

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months. All these people will need access to money so they can spend

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it in our shops. Banks say, the big banks, look, in this day and age,

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you can bank online and it's cheaper, so that's better for the

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customer. I do online banking myself. But there's no access to

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your cash. You can't get change. Elderly people needing help with

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filling in forms and pensions, electricity bills, all these things

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are done in the bank here. I would like to have spoken to HSBC about

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their closures. They declined an interview. They said they only

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close branches as a last resort and only happened when customer numbers

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had fallen off dramatically. They did say they were planning to close

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ten more by the end of the year. Some banks have pledged not to

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close a branch if it's the last one in a community. But not HSBC. In

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the last year, HSBC alone has closed 47 of its branches across

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the UK and 14 of those were the last bank in town. One of those was

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in Nevin, 14 miles from Criccieth. The bank here close twod weeks ago.

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-- closed two weeks ago. The local shop keeper sells his trade is down

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already, even though he's had a cashpoint installed. He says costs

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have gone up too. Now he has to employ extra staff while he drives

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to another town to bank his takings. Now that means I've got to go seven

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miles away. It takes three quarters of an hour there and back, plus

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queuing in the bank. It adds up. UK campaign group sells the effects

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of bank closures can devastate a community. Some retailers,

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particularly the butcher, baker, the pharmacist and so on, can lose

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up to 30% of turnover. Many of those do close as a result. That

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has a devastating effect on the community as a whole, not just

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those who will be using the bank that closed. Back in Criccieth,

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workmen are stripping out the branch, signalling the end of local

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banking in yet another small town. Dave Fishwick is here now. He's a

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businessman who was so angry with the Big Four banks he decided to

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set up a people's bank. It's being filmed for a documentary. Welcome.

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First of all, you heard what HSBC said about being the last bank on

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the High Street. Are the other banks holding their promise of not

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closing if they're the last ones? No, that's speeded things up.

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They're bailing out faster now. They're not the last ones. I'm with

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you. We're going to end up in a position where we won't have banks

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left in the rural communities. We need them. They're the heart of the

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community. You've come up with a solution. They could have a mobile

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bank. I've gone round with a cash machine and it links to satellite

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and we can give to these places and live to a bank. But I can't rescue

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the country. The ultimate goal would be for people to do the same

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thing across the country. That's Bob the driver! Does it feel quite

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secure that? We have fun. There's good decent people left in the

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country. Do any of the big banks have mobile bank? Have I seen a

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NatWest one? I'm sure one or two tried it. You have set up shop

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permanently in Burnley. What was the industry's response to that?

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don't think they like it. Early '09 my customers were coming to me and

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they couldn't get loans to buy the buses. So I lent them the money and

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they paid me back. I thought I'd have a go. We have 97% repayment.

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It's incredible. Give us an idea of how it works. Say you've just sold

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a television company or whatever... LAUGHTER

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If that was me, hypothetically and I came to you, what would you do

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with the money? Yeah what would you do? I'm waiting for the lever and

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going back. The thing to do is I help people achieve 5% on their

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save ings. I lend that money to local people who can't borrow

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through a High Street bank through no fault of their home. We're

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rescuing businesses helping local people as well. We take the profit

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from that, pay the tiny overheads and this is the big one, we give

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the profits to charity. You don't make anything at all? Enough to pay

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the overheads, the difference we give away. That's how it works.

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I'm not getting 5%. This must be very popular? That's the problem.

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Me and David who run this thing, we've actually got a two-year

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waiting list to put money in till 2014. You know the big banks have

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queued -- queues outside to take their money out. How do you do?

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have a self-perpetuating business. My minibus business is capable of

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carrying that money at any one time. Any money out of the businesses we

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put it into the banks. It can't keep growing? It can if we want to

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put more businesses into it. But the ultimate goal to this is to

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have a community bank in every town and city across the country

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benefiting the community run bit community. You've put that to the

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Tory conference. This morning. There's a guy there called Steve

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Bakewell, one of the MPs. He's head -- Steve baker, he's one of the MPs.

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He said get everybody that can do write in to their local MP, he'll

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get loads of MPs into a meeting and we'll try to change banking in

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Britain forever. That's powerful stuff. You had a bit after a jibe

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about mortgages. The thing is a lot of problems were caused by

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irresponsible lending, but the majority of that lending wasn't to

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your average British householder. Now, they're saying oh, we're being

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more careful, but they're being much more careful with people who

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just want mortgages and anecdotally and Dave knows more than I do about

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the figures, but I'm finding that people are putting in these

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mortgage applications and it's eight to ten weeks before it's

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coming through, which is holding up sales, causing chains to collapse.

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It doesn't help anybody. You don't need to know your grandmother's

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shoe size before you lend someone money. That's a very good point.

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Thank you, Dave, all the very best. Thank you very much. Alex is with

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some of our guests who have tried to reverse the decline in rural

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businesses by simply starting up on their own.

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I'm here with Paul. You and your community have opened a local store

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completely from scratch. Why and how did you manage to do that?

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Right, well the last shop in the village had closed 25 years before.

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It's an 18-mile round trip to the nearest supermarket. There was

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strong support for a community-led shop which would also act as an

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output for local food and products. And how due manage to get funding?

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We got funding from a variety of sources, from grants, from local

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activities, from shares in the shop itself. And as Alison was telling

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us, anybody can gets funding like this, so you can be an inspiration.

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You have 53 volunteers in total and Paul, you're at the top of the tree,

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Ed I'm sorry, you're the manager and having the post in this local

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store actually changed your life completely. Yes, it did. In 2009 I

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had a brain tumour and I lost my job. I couldn't work. I couldn't

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find a job. It was the first job I actually found. It took two years

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and it was in retail and ideal for me. It's just saved my life really.

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It's a fantastic shop. We do a massive range, 40% is local. We do

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bread, cakes, jams, preserves, meats. It's really good. Including

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this lovely cake here. Gorgeous! Over here is Julie. You re-opened

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the Post Office in your village. You wrote in lots and -- roped in

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lots of volunteers to help you. That's right. Yes, we did. We

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managed to raise a lot of money to do it. We also sold shares at �10

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each to raise money. To date, we've got 536 shares. It's provided a

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much needed facility in the village, which everybody supports.

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Especially if there's no doubt. Precisely. Here we've got Paul and

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Debbie. You've re-opened the Norton pub in coals Norton. How important

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for the community has that been? It's been really important. I mean,

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it's not just important that we sell alcohol because pubs just

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can't survive on selling alcohol. You have to be a social centre

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really. We arrange entertainment for the villagers. We do walks to

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encourage fitness. We did a takeaway service of food so that

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you don't just include people who come into the pub. We try to reach

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everybody in the village. The best thing is they've actually named it

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after one of our guests, because Paul you have it on your T-shirt

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there. It's called the Norton. Perfect! Soon to be renamed the

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Graham Norton. I'll be there. found a great organisation called

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The Plunkett Foundation who have helped these projects get off the

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ground. If you want more information go to our website. All

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the info is there for you. Now it was a month ago that the

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Paralympic flame was extinguished. It lit a spark that is still

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burning. The iconic images of Ellie Simmonds, David Weir and Johnny

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Peacock winning gold have made a lasting impression on many of us.

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Inquiries to Paralympic sports clubs have gone through the roof.

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I'm Kevin Fox and watching the Paralympics has inspired me to take

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up some throwing events like discus, shot putt and javelin. It is one of

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the first times I'd seen anyone like me with disabilities doing

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things that you wouldn't expect them to be able to do. Guys running

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100m with no legs, it's crazy things. My accident occurred in

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March 2008. I was driving a motorbike. I crashed straight into

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the back of a HGV. I lost my left arm. I suffered some terrible head

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injuries. To make all this happen I rang Milton Keynes athletics club.

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They spurred me on to train and see what I can do. When I'm throwing

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it's good. It feels like I've got all my strength back. When you let

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the ball go and you turn around and see how far it's gone, it's

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fantastic. Sport will help me get out of the house. I don't just want

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to sit in the house watching life go by any more. I want to make my

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kids proud of me. Hopefully I'll be The Paralympics inspired me to take

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up sport. They were good at what they were doing. I am hearing and

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visually impaired. I wear two hearing aids all the time and I use

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a cane and wear glasses. I have never really done any sport because

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I don't think I had an interest and I never thought it would be

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accessible to me because of my hearing and vision loss. When I

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started to think about the Paralympicsks I wanted to start

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something new and I e-mailed Hannah at Nottingham University asking

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about it and went along to one of the training sessions and had a go.

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I think it is a sport that I can take part in and it is a sport that

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I enjoy. I never had the chance to work as a team in that way way

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before. I think we have got some kind of vision loss and we're

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trying. Watching the Paralympics inspired

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me to take up wheel care basketball. I had been accident 17 years ago

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and I can walk a little, but yes, I have to use a wheelchair. Since my

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injury, I have not done no sport, I have been sitting around doing

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cross word puzzles. I phoned up my local basketball team and for the

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past four weeks, they took me in. We were welcomed straightaway.

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People came over and introduced themselves and said, "Here is a

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wheelchair, come and join us." There is a lot of people out there

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with disabilities and they won't do anything because they don't feel

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they are welcome into a group or a team, but they should go out

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because they would be welcomed. It doesn't matter if it is basketball,

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tennis, there is something out there for everybody.

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Graham, you will telling us throughout the Paralympics you just

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wept? It was all so inspiring. And that closing ceremony was just

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brilliant. Were you sporty at school then? No. It is inspiring

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now! LAUGHTER

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Yes. Yes. We have a great picture here here

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that we found. What's all that about? Me and my medal. They made

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me dress up for the Radio Times. Fancy dress, not actual sport! And

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were your kids inspired, Kirstie because you have got four boys?

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saw David David Weir win the 1500 meters and what was extraordinary,

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when he was coming down the track, it was like Batman was coming down

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the trackment they were screaming, the hole stadium was -- whole

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stadium was screaming, the energy in the stadium alone must have

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pushed them across the finishing line.

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It was Graham crying. You hope that spirit can continue.

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Shall we talk crafts then? You want to get your own back, don't you, on

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Graham? The thing is, do you know what this is, Graham?

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LAUGHTER I can guess!

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LAUGHTER It is a napkin rose.

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When would you use that? I see. They are pretty for weddings and

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things. It is nice table decorations. And

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Graham is going to make one. Can I use that one? No, that's cheating.

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There it is, rose napkin in the book. Did you make that bookmark

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yourself? LAUGHTER

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That's gorgeous. There it is. You can just busy yourself. Do I have a

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napkin? That's a ghost napkin. The book accompanies a new series

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you have got coming to Channel 4, it is called Kirstie's Vintage

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Homes. It is four years now since I have been doing the craft shows and

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the first one was about the house I bought and filling it with things

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that were made and second-hand and revamped and up cycled and it has

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gone on and on and it is extraordinary because we have done

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a lot of research which shows a lot of people are unhappy with the way

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their homes are, but they don't feel they have the confidence to do

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it, at the moment they don't have the money and one of the brilliant

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things is you can look around your home and for a tenner or twenty

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pounds you can revamp something that you actually have and make it

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look completely different. Chairs, sideboards, tables, one of the

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things we did was screen printing, a sideboard. It is wire wool and

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then you design your whatever you want to do, a pattern, you can do

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lovely things with children's pictures which work very well, you

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know, into reproduce so you do the screen printing and pop it on and

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dot pain and you varnish it with a water based varnish and that's it a

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new piece of furniture. In the first episode you helped

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Colin and Amber. Here you are. You don't hear people talking about

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their sideboards much these days, but for generations the sideboard

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has been a big piece of furniture in the house which said a lot about

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you and how you led your life. This 1960s sideboard bought by Amber is

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going to do the same for their house.

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We're going to give it some creative TLC with the help of Zoe

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Murphy, the princess of screen printing. She specialises in

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transforming unloved possessions into furniture and she has her eye

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on one of Amber's cheeky online purchases.

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It looks great. I wasn't that bothered. That's quite a nice

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napkin, I would say that. Do that and put a knife and fork on it.

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That's Entertaining. When you get married, you will want

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the table to look decorative. OK. There will be some flowers.

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LAUGHTER There are loads of craft in the

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book for people to do and it is split into two sections because it

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is about how to buy great vintage furniture and how to make stuff.

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how to get furniture off the side of the pavement. People are

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chucking stuff away all over the country. Local authority dumps, if

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someone is doing work, often people chuck stuff out. If anyone has died,

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people go around to a House of A relative and they look at the stuff

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and they think it is worthless and it is not.

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It is having the vision of knowing what to do with it. You look at the

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shape of something and you go, "Put a few little bits on there and it

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will look perfect. It is the first time you take a chair and you strip

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the paint off and repain, it is the same feeling you get when you bring

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something home from school, "I made this.". Are you into anything like

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this? Do you prefer the clean lines? I will buy junk. There is a

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lot of of crap in my house. You like to surround yourself with

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a lot of stuff? Are you minimal? That sounds like I decorated it, it

:23:12.:23:15.

is just mess. It is piles of magazines and dog hair really. It

:23:16.:23:23.

is not - people would be surprised just how dirty my house is.

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No, don't. You are my idol and if I discovered

:23:27.:23:32.

you had a dirty home, that would disappoint me.

:23:32.:23:37.

Let's say it is grubby. My whole house is distressed.

:23:37.:23:45.

She may want to come around to tidy He hasn't any rose-shaped serve

:23:45.:23:51.

yets. You can catch Kirstie's TV series

:23:51.:23:59.

on Channel 4 next month. We We challenge our One Show family.

:23:59.:24:07.

Last week Carrie was in Liverpool. She got harassed by Ricky Tomlinson.

:24:07.:24:17.
:24:17.:24:24.

Thanks to everybody who took part. I am in the beautiful market town

:24:24.:24:34.
:24:34.:24:35.

of of town town Shaftbury, it is all about bread. Maybe a bakery

:24:35.:24:41.

challenge. No, Pam is the person in the know. Hi, Pam. Tell me about

:24:41.:24:44.

the challenge. Well, as part of our jubilee

:24:44.:24:50.

celebration we are planting 60,000 snowdrops in the grounds of the

:24:50.:24:54.

Trinity Centre and they are to create a public snowdrop walk for

:24:54.:24:59.

everybody to remember the jub the jubilee.

:24:59.:25:03.

We need you to get the word out. Anything else? We need to get

:25:03.:25:07.

dibbers. No problem. Man power and dibbers.

:25:07.:25:11.

I'm on it! With the challenge set, we hit the

:25:11.:25:14.

streets to drum up interest the old-fashioned way.

:25:14.:25:19.

We hope to make this historic town a snowdrop town.

:25:19.:25:23.

You look like a man who would help a damson in distress.

:25:23.:25:28.

It is your lucky day because I am a gardener anyway. Look at state of

:25:28.:25:33.

me, does it not tell? You look like a tidy gardener. Because I bet you

:25:33.:25:36.

are brilliant planting stuff? you're on.

:25:36.:25:41.

Exactly. I knew you would be up for it. Things were ticking along

:25:41.:25:46.

nicely, so I take a moment to find out more about this little flower.

:25:46.:25:56.
:25:56.:26:01.

Ray is chairman of Shaftsbury In Bloom.

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It is the common British single snowdrop. It is nice to have

:26:05.:26:11.

something that's common throughout the UK.

:26:11.:26:14.

Dairy employs hundreds of people and it should prove a happy hunting

:26:15.:26:19.

ground. Check out these two. I need to get volunteers and I have got my

:26:19.:26:24.

leaflet. Let's do it! Have you got green fingers? I have,

:26:24.:26:29.

yes. Would you mind coming to help us on

:26:29.:26:37.

the One Show To The Rescue? Do I need my gardening gloves? Gardening

:26:37.:26:44.

gloves and tools. She planted snowdrops in her garden already.

:26:44.:26:53.

Are you going to be there? Promise? Don't let me down.

:26:53.:27:02.

OK, lads, down tools. Down tools. I am the boss now. 60,000 snowdrop

:27:02.:27:06.

bulbs need to be planted. Are you in? We're in.

:27:07.:27:11.

And make sure you bring your tools. I I wonder if I could borrow a

:27:11.:27:17.

moment of your time, lads. Are you off duty tomorrow? We are. What do

:27:17.:27:23.

you need us to do? Just come, plant and be happy. We can do that.

:27:23.:27:27.

I had forgotten to get the dippers sorted, but with a tip-off and a

:27:27.:27:35.

lift from the lads we got some. We just made it. I have come to get

:27:35.:27:39.

dibbers. Thank you. I just made it in time and got some dibbers so

:27:39.:27:48.

hopefully tomorrow everyone will will turn out and help with The One

:27:48.:27:54.

Show To The Rescue. How are you getting on? It is

:27:54.:27:57.

heaving. Hello, Matt and Alex. I am down

:27:57.:28:02.

here. Welcome and good evening. Now, we have had a successful day today.

:28:02.:28:06.

Such a successful day which exceeded my expectations. Earlier

:28:06.:28:10.

there, morning I thought maybe one or two people might come up to help,

:28:10.:28:18.

but I was surprised when I saw an army of volunteers come up to the

:28:18.:28:22.

Trinity Centre where we are standing now to plant 60,000

:28:22.:28:26.

snowdrop bulbs and they have been here since 10am, we have had

:28:26.:28:30.

everyone from estate agents, schoolchildren and schoolteachers

:28:30.:28:33.

and the Fire Brigade and the person who made it happen is Pam. You must

:28:33.:28:36.

be so happy at the way the community has come together? I am

:28:36.:28:41.

athrilled to pieces. -- I'm thrilled to pieces. We have had so

:28:42.:28:48.

many people come out and we are grateful to The One Show. It has

:28:48.:28:55.

been a pleasure, but 60,000 was significant, wasn't it? This is our

:28:55.:28:58.

Diamond Jubilee tribute to the Queen. This will be something that

:28:58.:29:04.

we will have as part of our heritage going forward. 60,000

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snowdrop bulbs for 60 years. We have got 500 bulbs left to

:29:09.:29:13.

plantment make sure you come back and join us to see if we finished

:29:13.:29:23.

They all just waved silently at the beginning, like they were next door

:29:23.:29:25.

it a hospital and they didn't want to wake anyone.

:29:25.:29:29.

LAUGHTER Very well behaved. Angellica had

:29:29.:29:36.

briefed them. I like the idea of eating candy flas. Someone's got to

:29:36.:29:43.

get hold of that. So Graham, the 12th series. Yes, that's on BBC.

:29:44.:29:48.

There was all the one with Channel 4. But it's a lot of people and a

:29:48.:29:55.

lot of shows. It's back next Friday. The line up for Friday is brilliant.

:29:55.:29:58.

You've got Arnie. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Miranda Hart and

:29:58.:30:06.

little Ronnie Corbett. Don't forget Usher. And usher. That is great.

:30:06.:30:09.

Did you start with Ronnie Corbett or Arnold Schwarzenegger and then

:30:09.:30:14.

go to the opposite end? I think Arnie came on board first. The

:30:14.:30:18.

thing is, the couch, you want to put lots of thought into the couch.

:30:18.:30:23.

So you want to go who would go with who. But you know what it's like,

:30:23.:30:29.

often, come Wednesday night, you're like anyone, anyone, chuck them on!

:30:29.:30:35.

This is what we have tonight. dud lot tonight. Ronnie's not going

:30:35.:30:40.

to sit on Arnie's knee is he? That's what I thought. I don't

:30:40.:30:45.

think Ronnie does size jokes. not sure that would be right. In

:30:45.:30:49.

fact, the temptation would be to put Ronnie in the middle I think,

:30:49.:30:54.

which would be visually funny. But one of our rules is we should put

:30:54.:30:58.

the lady in the middle so it's boy girl boy, so Ronnie will probably

:30:58.:31:02.

be at the end. You never really know what's going to happen. They

:31:02.:31:06.

just sit down here, similar to what we do, I guess. It is, but except

:31:06.:31:12.

we can cut some bits out. Yeah, yeah. But you didn't cut out the

:31:12.:31:16.

bit where there was interesting mating behaviour between Cameron

:31:16.:31:26.
:31:26.:31:26.

Diaz and Sir David Attenborough. Let's have a look. Studying human

:31:27.:31:32.

animals, as an actor that's what I do, I study lots of human behaviour.

:31:32.:31:38.

Lots of discoverries? Yes. Big Sur prizes? I have so many more

:31:38.:31:41.

surprises when I watch your shows. You should see the outtakes. I

:31:41.:31:45.

would love to see the outtakes. Maybe we can arrange a viewing. Any

:31:45.:31:52.

time! Brilliant. What were you think whing that was

:31:52.:32:00.

going on? Life under duvet. I like Kathy Burke at the end going "get a

:32:00.:32:08.

room". If Graham invited you onto the show say... We have You have

:32:08.:32:12.

not. I say that to everyone. I'm sure we v. I would run so fast to

:32:12.:32:16.

be on Graham's show. I love Graham's show. I miss it...

:32:16.:32:20.

would you like to be on with? That's a tricky one. I don't know.

:32:20.:32:27.

At the moment I'm so on a kind of down ton Homeland thing, it would

:32:27.:32:32.

probably be damian Lewis Dan Stevens. Nice you could be in the

:32:32.:32:37.

middle. I could see that. That is quite a posh sofya. -- sofa. That's

:32:37.:32:42.

a lot of nice talking. understand that this is a nightmare

:32:42.:32:46.

line up for you. We have this picture here. Is this correct?

:32:46.:32:53.

You've got Harvey Kitel. fairness Janice I didn't mind, but

:32:53.:32:57.

it was an awkward interview but we were told we weren't allowed to

:32:57.:33:01.

talk about her brother. It seemed rude frankly, since he had just

:33:01.:33:05.

died. It seemed really odd that his name wouldn't come up. The other

:33:05.:33:10.

two not my favourite guests of all time. Who is the one in the middle?

:33:10.:33:20.
:33:20.:33:20.

The butter man. John Lyden. That's his legacy. He came on here, Johnny

:33:21.:33:24.

rotten. Did you enjoy it. It was interesting. You don't know what to

:33:24.:33:28.

expect. You go for it and it was good. We've had David Cassidy, I

:33:28.:33:32.

just said that outloud and he's quite tricky. How do you deal with

:33:32.:33:38.

it? He was such a hero of mine, I worshipped him growing up. And then

:33:38.:33:45.

I met him. Oh, it was disappointing. Did he have the same hair. He

:33:45.:33:50.

looked like a dog that had rolled in paint. He didn't stop talking.

:33:50.:33:56.

We had this alpaca on and we had more sense from that by the end.

:33:56.:34:00.

Shall we move on now? Who have you tried toe get that you would really

:34:00.:34:06.

like? This question used to be easy, because it was always Madonna. Now

:34:06.:34:10.

we've had Madonna. I've had to think again. The only kind of big

:34:10.:34:16.

Hollywood ones we haven't had is George Clooney. We haven't had Brad

:34:16.:34:21.

and Angelina. That would be nice. That would be an event. That's a

:34:21.:34:25.

waste to have them all on One Show. We should spread them out. Is that

:34:25.:34:33.

true that we have George next week? Yeah. They're playing with us!

:34:33.:34:40.

am, I will be calling my booker "The One Show have George!"

:34:40.:34:44.

Graham Norton Show is back Friday the 19th October on BBC One at

:34:44.:34:48.

10.35pm. Well it would be very bold of a TV executive to put one man on

:34:48.:34:53.

his own on stage for 30 minutes straight down the barrel just

:34:53.:34:57.

talking about history. Nothing else. It's a very long way from the BBC's

:34:57.:35:01.

current blockbuster series Andrew Marr's History of the World which

:35:01.:35:04.

has drawn criticism for its reliance on expensive drama

:35:04.:35:08.

reconstructions and CGI effects. But it did happen. Over to Dan and

:35:08.:35:16.

his dad. In the early days of TV, in the

:35:16.:35:20.

1950s, technology was basic and so too were the television shows. When

:35:20.:35:28.

it came to history, the biggest name was Oxford don AJP Taylor.

:35:28.:35:32.

Good evening. The whole Russian empire, you can see this on the map,

:35:32.:35:37.

depended on railways. He simply gave straight half-hour lectures to

:35:37.:35:46.

the cam ra. He hooked the viewers in their millions. In today's

:35:46.:35:49.

multimedia world, a visual feast is just as important as a dry resital

:35:50.:35:55.

of the facts. TV has made history come alive. Hang on, 60 years ago

:35:55.:35:59.

in the days of Taylor, my early days too, history didn't have the

:35:59.:36:04.

benefit of virtual reality. There were no fancy graphics and ear

:36:04.:36:10.

pieces and autocue. Britain's first TV historian just talked live to

:36:10.:36:16.

camera for 30 minutes non-stop. And the viewers were no less Spelbound.

:36:16.:36:21.

The strain which broke down Russia was the strain of sending fodder to

:36:21.:36:26.

the millions of army horses. son of hard line socialist parents,

:36:26.:36:31.

he learned the power of debate at home around the dinner table. But

:36:31.:36:37.

it was at Oxford where he honed his skills as a public Speaker and

:36:37.:36:42.

lecturer in 1938. Most lectures didn't start till ten. But Taylor

:36:42.:36:47.

had them at 9am. He was such a pool that students, it wasn't unknown

:36:47.:36:52.

for students to show up in their pajamas so they didn't miss the

:36:52.:36:56.

lectures. What was the secret of his success? He knew his history.

:36:56.:37:00.

He knew how to do it straightforwardly. He was

:37:00.:37:03.

charismatic. He was self-kofd and also very good. The fact this he

:37:03.:37:07.

didn't use notes, of course, he's famous for this. He was a thing of

:37:07.:37:13.

wonder. At the star lecturer set his sights beyond Oxford. In 1950

:37:13.:37:19.

he became a regular on radio and TV depait shows. Often fiery, he once

:37:20.:37:26.

refused to speak during a whole live programme. He was dubbed the

:37:26.:37:33.

sulky don and dropped by the BBC. ATV presents an experiment.

:37:33.:37:37.

resurrected his career on the first commercial TV channel. Huge

:37:37.:37:43.

audyebss -- audiences tuned into his lectures. Alan Taylor...

:37:43.:37:50.

camera in 1961, AJP would once again court controversy with a

:37:50.:37:55.

radical new interpretation of the Nazis. Most of us have always

:37:55.:37:59.

believed that Hitler planned the Second World War as part of a

:37:59.:38:02.

general scheme of world conquest. This view has been challenged in a

:38:02.:38:06.

most provocative way in a recently published book the origins of the

:38:06.:38:10.

Second World War. AJP said that Hitler hadn't bb the only person

:38:10.:38:17.

who caused the war. This caused a moral fire storm. He was attacked,

:38:17.:38:23.

many places, and not least in Oxford. He was a special lecturer,

:38:23.:38:26.

which was supposed to be for five years. It could have been renewed

:38:26.:38:30.

he thought. It wasn't. He took this as being against him and against

:38:30.:38:35.

his politics and he more or less stomped out of Oxford. AJP soon

:38:35.:38:40.

disappeared off our screens, but in 1977, after ten years in the

:38:41.:38:47.

wilderness, producer Eddie Murzov wooed him back to the BBC for a new

:38:47.:38:54.

series. He was delightfully enigmatic po work with. He would

:38:54.:38:59.

not tell you anything other than a one-word description of what he was

:38:59.:39:03.

going to say. As a producer one would sit there tearing one's hair.

:39:03.:39:07.

In fact, you knew he was going to do it. Churchill said after the

:39:07.:39:12.

battle of almain in October 1942, "This may not be the beginning of

:39:12.:39:20.

the end, but it is the end of the beginning." One man, one studio and

:39:20.:39:25.

one camera and a stop watch to keep him to the 30 minutes for the

:39:25.:39:30.

viewers. TV programmes evolved, but AJP Taylor's brand of history

:39:30.:39:35.

faithfully remained the same. He died in 1990, but AJP has etched

:39:35.:39:39.

his own name in history and to this day, he's still one of the most

:39:39.:39:45.

talked about British historians. Dan and Peter are with us now. It

:39:45.:39:48.

sends a shiver down our spines thinking about staring at the

:39:48.:39:52.

camera for 30 minutes delivering a lecture. Peter, would you be up for

:39:52.:39:57.

that? Thrilled to do it, yes. you?! Nothing like communicating

:39:57.:40:02.

your enthusiasm for history and the lessons of history to a viewer. But

:40:02.:40:07.

I will just say this. Good for AJP Taylor, how on earth he did it,

:40:07.:40:11.

brilliant, but this is television. I remember the old days working

:40:11.:40:15.

with at least I worked with graphics. We had cardboard graphics.

:40:15.:40:19.

But now we have these magical things, these computer graphics,

:40:19.:40:24.

maps and all the wonderful things in film and reenactment and so on.

:40:24.:40:29.

That's what one should be doing. A mix is essential. It is television

:40:29.:40:34.

that's the key. Dan, last year on BBC Two they had a series called

:40:34.:40:37.

the Normans and that completely really went back to basics. Do you

:40:37.:40:42.

think that worked? It was a great series. They still had Viking ships

:40:42.:40:47.

in it and re-enactment. They showed pictures of castles when talking

:40:47.:40:50.

about castles. That Taylor, it was extraordinarily and a black studio

:40:50.:40:55.

for half an hour. Talking of making things work, you have incredible

:40:55.:41:02.

archive coming in a series. imperial war museum has a copy of

:41:02.:41:07.

one of the biggest movies of all time in Britain, 20 million people

:41:07.:41:11.

went to watch it in Britain and Ireland in 1917. They've restored

:41:11.:41:15.

it beautifully. It's one of the first documentaries in history. You

:41:15.:41:20.

see the faces of the men from the bat. Some. You see people being

:41:20.:41:25.

killed in the battle. Everybody's using Twitter and you can have a

:41:25.:41:28.

conversation with everybody watching it. Do you think, Peter,

:41:28.:41:33.

with social media, that our history now will be told in much more of an

:41:33.:41:36.

accurate way maybe because of everything that's online? I've been

:41:36.:41:40.

writing about the Duke of Wellington and the crucial thing is

:41:40.:41:45.

to have these letters and diaries and eyewitness material that you

:41:45.:41:49.

can use, primary sources to tell the story. Now we have this great

:41:49.:41:53.

wellth of stuff. I love reading Dan's tweets, and blogs and

:41:53.:41:59.

goodness knows what else. That is a wealth of material. The only worry

:41:59.:42:04.

is is it going to be preserved. How is a historian going to get hold of

:42:04.:42:09.

those tweets. I don't know. Don't ask me. I don't know. None of us

:42:09.:42:13.

know. We'll make a film about it maybe. Are you planning on doing

:42:13.:42:17.

anything else together? It's lovely to see you both on screen?

:42:17.:42:21.

Unfortunately Andrew Marr has pinched the History of the World

:42:21.:42:25.

hist in five minutes. Dad and I did this together, it was great fun.

:42:26.:42:27.

That marked 50 years of television for dad.

:42:27.:42:35.

APPLAUSE What about that! That's great. It

:42:36.:42:39.

started a while back, the connection, the love of history

:42:39.:42:44.

from your dad. A great picture of you there, young Dan. The old bowl

:42:44.:42:48.

cut. It's a beauty. It's a bit like Boris Johnson. That's the par they

:42:48.:42:55.

none in Greece. All my friends were going to football clubs, we went to

:42:55.:43:01.

see ancient Greece. Wild stuff. were a wonderful listener. Graham,

:43:01.:43:05.

we have a lovely picture of you and your dad. You dedicated your first

:43:05.:43:11.

BAFTA to your dad. I did. It's weird that thing that you would do

:43:11.:43:17.

that with your dad. If my dad had suggested that on principle I

:43:17.:43:21.

wouldn't have gone because he wanted me to go. Good son. That was

:43:21.:43:25.

before my rebellious phase. great to be working to the and sat

:43:25.:43:30.

here. It's a treat. Thank you both for coming on. It's inspired a game.

:43:30.:43:34.

It has. As we've established Dan and Peter are father and son,

:43:34.:43:39.

Kirsty, your cousin is home furnishing Queen, Cath Kidston. On

:43:40.:43:47.

that theme... Due know that? Amazing. Discounts? Your banking

:43:47.:43:51.

sorted while year here and discounts. On that theme we're

:43:51.:43:59.

playing The One Show's rellies on the telly.

:43:59.:44:02.

In principle, it's quite a simple game. Basically all you have to do

:44:02.:44:06.

is try to match up those along the bottom that are related to those at

:44:06.:44:12.

the top. Someone's related to a clock. Well, yeah. It's actually

:44:12.:44:16.

the speaking clock. Kirsty is on the speaking clock. Kirsty is on

:44:16.:44:21.

the top and then Cath Kidston. You pair them on. Holly Valance or

:44:21.:44:31.
:44:31.:44:36.

. I would say Terry Thomas because I'm sure he toured Australia.

:44:36.:44:46.

It is a good guess, Terry Thomas. Will you agree? I am looking for a

:44:46.:44:49.

similarity. Let's try for Benny Hill.

:44:49.:44:58.

Let's try for Benny Hill. Holly will love that! Holly on her

:44:58.:45:08.
:45:08.:45:08.

honeymoon going "just checking in.". Second cousin twice removed. Can we

:45:08.:45:14.

move on. Skeleton that is is dug up in a car

:45:14.:45:24.
:45:24.:45:26.

park. That skeleton has scolarsis which

:45:26.:45:33.

is what they thought he. The voice of the speaking clock.

:45:34.:45:40.

Which is probably Chris Huhne's mum. Chris Huhne is the son of the

:45:40.:45:50.

speaking clock. It explains so much!

:45:50.:45:55.

Richard Briers is related to Terry Thomas. It is a great game. Very

:45:55.:46:05.
:46:05.:46:05.

good. I like the one, who is the new one in Down ton, do you know

:46:05.:46:14.

who her brother is? Warren Beatty. And Gary Oldman and

:46:14.:46:18.

Mo off EastEnders, that's who I couldn't believe! A change in

:46:18.:46:21.

direction. Yes.

:46:21.:46:25.

Changing a career can be a bold, but nerve-wracking experience.

:46:25.:46:28.

new Government scheme is giving people to try out their dream job

:46:28.:46:32.

before they take the plunge. Simon Boazman went back to school to find

:46:32.:46:37.

Boazman went back to school to find out more.

:46:37.:46:42.

23-year-old Joe and 42 plumber Damien are fed up with serving

:46:42.:46:46.

pizzas and plumbing sinks. They have decided they want to change

:46:46.:46:49.

change their careers and are considering becoming primary school

:46:49.:46:54.

teachers. Working in a pizza restaurant is great, but I'm more

:46:54.:46:57.

passionate about teaching. It is time for another career

:46:57.:47:01.

change and I thought why not go back to what I wanted to do

:47:01.:47:06.

originally which was teaching. My name is Mr Robson.

:47:06.:47:11.

Male teachers are few and far between. Within primary schools in

:47:11.:47:16.

England, only 13% of teachers are men and one in four primary schools

:47:16.:47:21.

have no male teachers at all. Many people believe without positive

:47:21.:47:24.

male role models, schoolchildren are missing out so the Government

:47:24.:47:28.

have set-up a new scheme to encourage men into the profession.

:47:28.:47:32.

And to show them that being a primary school teacher can be a

:47:32.:47:37.

rewarding career. Joe and Damien are attending this

:47:37.:47:42.

school in Nottingham to take part in the primary experience programme.

:47:42.:47:47.

Today's lesson, we are going to be looking at different countries.

:47:47.:47:50.

The scheme is aimed at men who declared an interest in a teaching

:47:50.:47:55.

career. It gives graduates the chance to sample life in the

:47:56.:47:59.

classroom before committing to teacher training.

:47:59.:48:04.

I think it is really good if we can have positive male role models who

:48:04.:48:08.

are making a difference in just the same way as their female teachers

:48:08.:48:10.

are. Why do you think we have a

:48:10.:48:15.

situation now where there are so few male teachers? Men didn't see

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it as an exciting career option. More than anything, they are going

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to see that schools are exciting places to be. That they can make a

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difference. Joe and Damien will spend their

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time at the school talking to children and teachers and observing

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classes. It is not bad that. Not bad.

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Before the week is up, they will be given the opportunity to take a

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class on their own. We have asked them to record how they get on.

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A bit frantic this morning, finding my way around, but I have settled

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into it. I met a lot more of the children

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today. I did a lot of activities and yeah, it is getting better as

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the week goes on. Just a week ago, Damien was

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plumbing in showers and Joe topping pizzas and today we have return to

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see them take a class of primary school children for the first time.

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You are about to go in, how do you feel? Pretty nervous.

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Really? It will be OK, I have done plenty of prep work.

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We are going to make a school calendar.

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We filmed them teaching so the head can watch them at work and assess

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their skills. So if you were to to give him tomorrow tips, what would

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they be? Slow down. Give the kids more time to answer the questions

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and use the chair that's there for you.

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So what happens in January, weather wise? It snows. Brilliant, well

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done. Confident. Lots of use of his hands.

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This looks like a professional teacher. With a bit of training, he

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could be a good lad. Draw on there what you think Frosty

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needs to make him a finished snowman.

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If you were going to give him marks out of ten, what would you give

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him? Ten. Ten. Eight-and-a-half.

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Do you think he has a bit to learn? He has got two more things to learn,

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two-and-a-half. So an A minus for Damien, what

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about Joe? There are two pyramids on the board. Choose whichever one

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you want. When you are nervous, you tend to

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repeat the same word over and over again and we have got an "OK"

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coming out. That's a teaching stance, I am the teacher, you are

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the class, I am at the board, he needs to move into the kids from

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time to time. He is doing it now. Good. Good. Well done. Looking at

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how they got on this week, do you think they are cut out for teaching

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careers? Without a doubt. To want to take a

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lesson and also have it filmed, it is a credit to them. More than

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anything, they have just settled into school and been part of the

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team. Well, Damien and Joe are here. That

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looked brilliant. It looked like a positive experience. How was it?

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loved it. The school was great. The staff were brilliant. The class

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that I had were amazing and the teacher I was with, he was really

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helpful. It was a really good experience.

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Joe, you went in there not knowing whether you wanted to be a teacher

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or not. What's the outcome? Are you leaving pizzas? I can't really say

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that because my manager is watching!

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LAUGHTER What could happen?

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LAUGHTER It was lucky you did that scheme

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now! If somebody like yourself was going to leave pizzaland and what

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would you do? What's the process? signed up with the teaching agency.

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You can do that online and they rang me. They got in touch with me

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and put me on the primary experience programme, but to get

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into a career in teaching, you have to do the GTP, it is the graduate

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teaching programme which is where you get experience whilst you work

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and there is another way into it called the PGCE which is a primary

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post-grad watt certificate of education post-graduate certificate

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of education. That involves doing an actual course and stuff.

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What do you think Kirstie, because you have got two young boys who are

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primary age? Do you think male teachers are a plus or would you be

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happy for an all female staff? There is an amazing guy called Gary

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Wilson who does talks on helping boys achieve and boys need

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different things from girls and men are good at recognising what boys

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need and helping them with that. And we have a real, real problem

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with boys achievement. Girls are coming up and up and in all the

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GCSE topics, bar one, girls do better than boys. As a mother of

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boys, that can't do -- that can go Graham. There has always been more

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female teachers. But it is getting worse.

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What do you mean "getting worse?" There is no sisterhood when you

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have boys. All you want is for the boys to do well.

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Those women do an amazing job. All those age ranges in one room and a

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great teacher, a bit like the historian we were looking at

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earlier, that force of a personality can transform your

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interest in a subject. Let's hear from one little pupil

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that was in Damien's class. We can go live via Skype to Josh. Nice to

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see you. Nice to see you. APPLAUSE

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How was Mr Grant, Josh? You have a different name for him, don't you?

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Yes, Mr Great. And what did you most like about

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him then, Josh? Everything. Was there anything he didn't do

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very well? No, he did everything perfect.

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Do you think he should leave pizzas and come and work at your school?

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Yes. No question about it. Josh, thank you very much indeed for

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joining us. APPLAUSE

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Can we have another little look at Josh's room there because there is

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a lovely bit of disdressing on the door, Kirstie.

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And floral wallpaper. I am a big fan.

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If you would like more experience about the primary experience

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programme, we have put a link up on our website.

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Time now to see if Angellica succeeded in getting the last of

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the 60,000 snowdrop bullks planted -- bulbs planted. They had 500

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earlier, didn't they? How is the planting going in the dark? Have

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you done it Angellica? Hello and welcome back. Yes, hello, Graham,

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indeed. That was just for you Mr Norton! We have nearly planted the

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last of the 60,000 snowdrop bulbs, before we do that, I want to have a

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world with Ray Humphreys MBE, how do you think Her Majesty the Queen

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will feel today? She would be overjoyed and it will be a picture

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of colour. January to April next year, watch this space. 60,000

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bulbs, carpets and carpets of white. Who would realise that people would

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be sell blatting -- celebrating the Queen's jubilee in October? Down

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here, Pam, how are we getting on? Wonderfully. I have one last fat

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snowdrop bulb to pop in the ground and we're done. In it goes and

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that's it. That's it, everyone. We've done it

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It has been brilliant. There is one last thing we need to do. If you

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could pass me that. Ray, if you you could do the honours. We have a

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plaque here. This is from The One Show to the community of

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Shaftesbury. That's it from us. Goodbye, everyone.

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Planting and fertiliser. We have a present. This is

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brilliant stuff. It is bat dung pert liser -- fertiliser. I have a

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lot of this at home. It is in the ceiling above my bathroom. I have a

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house in Ireland I time share with bats. I get there and I thought,

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the bathroom really smells ammoniaish and I thought I really

:57:15.:57:23.

must clean this, do you see, I'm filthy. I realised it it wasn't me.

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I don't know what bats eat. It is all over the ceiling. You need to

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get Kirstie over to do a bit of decorating. I have bats too. You

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can't get rid of bats. Gosh. They go in your hair.

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If you have bats doing stuff on the ceiling, don't leave the lights on

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in your bathroom because that cooks it. As bad as it smelt before, it

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smells a lot worse afterwards. Graham, you have got a big birthday

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coming up. Can we mention that? have got bats. I'm 50.

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Will you be with the bats in Cork? What you don't want to do is, "Save

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the week." No one cares. It is your birthday, you get one day and it

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should be near somewhere you live. People shouldn't have to travel to

:58:24.:58:28.

your birthday party. It will be something in London.

:58:28.:58:38.
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That's nice. And Kirstie... How old are you,y?

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- How old are you Kirstie? I am nowhere near 50!

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