10/10/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker...

Tonight's guest is a journalist and broadcaster with a reputation

for butting heads with the big guns of politics.

He's troubled Tony, grilled Gordon and given David the third degree,

but there's one potential world leader who, sadly,

he's never had the opportunity to trump.

Shall we find out if he has managed to do it? Let's welcome Jeremy

Paxman! You are back from Washington, DC. Let me tell you

exclusively, we did not get an interview with Donald Trump. There

are no votes in talking to a British audience, really. That's the long

and short of it. What would you have liked to have asked him? Well, after

that very embarrassing take the other day, I would ask him, were you

telling the truth when you said that you grabbed women's genitals?

Because if he answers yes, it is hugely embarrassing, and if he

answers no... Then you are entitled to say, well, what else, we believe

about you? So I think it's quite a good question. What did you make of

him palming it off as locker room chat? Well, there must have been

some lady locker room is! Well, I've snuck in! Have you?! I don't think

we want to go down this line of questioning! I can tell you, I've

been in a few locker room is over the years and I've never heard that

sort of talk! Did you stay up in the early hours to watch? No, I watched

the highlights. We are going to be talking about your new book, and

talking about your stomping ground, Cambridge University. If you have

seen a bloke sketching away, that is our One Show portrait artist,

Alvarez didn't artist. -- our resident artist. When you are not

talking, stare into the distance and we will get a beautiful profile! But

first, terrorising gangs, not something you would expect to see

today. Nick has been looking at what can be done to stop the biker gangs.

There is a motorised menace on our streets. You've got quad bikes,

superbikes, motorbikes... Communities around the country say

they are being overrun. They write them on the pavements. People don't

want to come out of their houses. It is not just noise or run-of-the-mill

anti-social behaviour. They've also been linked to robberies and gun

crime. I've come to this estate on the Wirral. Just one of many areas

being plagued by unregistered and is driven bikes. Sheila is a community

worker. How bad the anti-social behaviour on this estate? Very bad.

People are really intimidated. Out of control, then? Yes. Have lives

been put at risk at what has gone on? Yes. Somebody was out playing,

somebody came along on a bike on the pavement, they run them over. The

father intervened and two cars pulled up with young lads end, they

pulled up, beat him up. So a father trying to protect his own son was

beaten up in front of his house? Yes, in front of his own children.

Later on, the house got attacked, they threw stones. The police say

the attack was properly investigated but those involved declined to give

statements. This is why people won't come forward. They are frightened of

what will happen. Why are you coming forward? I've lived on this state

all my life and it's my home. I shouldn't be frightened to walk the

streets. But many here clearly do feel intimidated. This mum agreed to

talk only if we didn't show her face. You get scared to go out. You

get worried about... What your kids are seeing when they go out. You

can't be found out to be reporting anything or trying to stop what they

are doing because they will find out who you are and where you live. It

doesn't take much for them to do it. But it seems amazing you have

roaming gangs of kids running riot on an estate like this. We get

ignored, we get forgotten, those of us living on the estate. And the

wood Church state is far from unique. Police forces from Wales to

Yorkshire have set up dedicated units to deal with the problem. This

is the police response, seizing and crushing bikes. Superintendent Jenny

Sim says they are working hard to stop them. Over the summer period we

seized over 200 bikes, many of which were stolen. We've arrested nearly

100 people and have warrants across premises across Merseyside. The

youth who rode through this shopping centre was jailed for a year. We are

using every resource possible to target these offenders and bring

them to justice. Although the police say they are working hard, the

problem hasn't gone away, and for people here, the answer to nuisance

bikes cannot come soon enough. But could this be part of a

solution? This track was built to keep young riders off the road. It

was hugely popular. 2000 members. It was set up to teach youngsters to

ride responsibly by motocross instructor Graham. They learn how to

maintain the bikes properly, what kit to wear, how to do it with their

ability, and it was all in a safe environment. It was brilliant. It

was lovely. And then it stopped. Last year, Graham's police on the

land wasn't renewed so the track had to shut. -- his lease. He thinks

it's the wider community that has lost out. It gives kids a focus and

it gives them self-esteem. They come, they become part of a club,

they learn new skills. This works. Without a doubt, this works. We just

need a suitable piece of land and we can crack on. We will do this. But

while Graham searches for a new site, the battle against nuisance

bikers goes on. Thank you very much. Well, A Life in

Questions, we've just had a chat about it. In this packed career, how

do you start crafting a book with all these different anecdotes?

Because you say you are not much of a diarist. You've tried and failed

at that. Well, if you live long enough and you try enough times, you

get a decent diary out of it. You get pages and pages and pages. It

doesn't matter if you only last until March, April on a good year!

You know? Get enough of those and you are fine! Shall we see a young

Jeremy? A nice picture? We think about 11 or 12. Something like that.

A beautiful smile. Funny ears, though! Looking back, what did you

hope for the future? What did you hope to be? I rather hoped I

wouldn't have to play football for much longer! I used to get hacked

quite a lot because I was quite tall and thin. So I was a bit of a

target. No, that wasn't what I hoped. I never really had ambition.

I just did things that seemed interesting at the time and I've

been very lucky, and the reason I wanted to write the book is because

a lot of funny things have happened. And I've met some amazing people. I

don't think that stage I really had an ambition but I realised looking

back on life, you've got to live it looking forwards but you only

understand looking backwards. Looking backwards, I can see that,

you know, I loved words and I love finding things out, so a career in

journalism was a natural for me. And I would have been absolutely

hopeless at many other careers! In fact, I was turned down for every

other job I applied for! Well, you didn't get the first job at the BBC,

did you? No, that's right. Very wise! You gloat, you and your locker

room anecdotes! You start off with your childhood and the schools you

went to and you write about the relationship with your dad, which

has garnered quite a lot of press when people are talking about the

book. How did you find the process of going back and revisiting your

childhood and writing about that time? Actually, it didn't trouble

me. I think one of the characteristics of childhood is of

course you appreciate things much more intensely as a child than you

ever do as an adult. Except going into a locker room, of course! But

you do appreciate them intensely and, you know, I had a bad

relationship with my father but then I'm not sure that my siblings have a

much better relationship. That's for them to say, I think. I'm the one...

This one nearest me, on the right of the picture. And then the one on the

left became a diplomat. And the one in the middle, James, end up

conservationist. So looking back at this life of questions, thinking

about the line you often take with your interviews, where do you think

that comes from? Because you say you love words and all this, that and

the other, but that hard edge, that no-nonsense, direct approach, what

you put that down to? Look, there's no difference between you, me, Alex

or anyone else in this room, and is a great crowd of people here! I

don't know why they don't have a job to do! Anyway! There's no

difference, really. The only difference is one of opportunity,

and I think... There's no special position that an interviewer or

journalist has but if you have an opportunity you should down well use

it. I think you are there on behalf of the citizen and if you ask a

question you should get an answer to it. Everybody is school now in how

not to answer questions and it's your job just to cut through that.

And as many funny anecdotes, because, as you say, you've met many

funny people, and one of them was the CEO of MNS. -- of Marks

Spencer. Who is that?! Looks a bit like John Suchet! In a locker room!

Just tell us what happened, because that was a bizarre lunch, wasn't it?

It was very bizarre. I was very foolish. I shouldn't have complained

about the quality of Marks Spencer's pants. They were better

than many in terms of quality. They wash better! I'm glad you wash them!

I concluded there wasn't any intrinsic problem with any brand of

superb -- pants except that when you buy food it says best before or eat

by, and the same should be true of pants, because once they have

gone... Do you know how old the pants that you are wearing today?

Well, without thinking too much, yes. You don't know how old they

are. And because you don't know, they've gone through the wash enough

times and they start getting ropey. I'm just loving the fact that here

we are, sitting on The One Show with Jeremy Paxman having an in-depth

conversation about pants! So I wrote to Stuart Rose and said I was very

worried about Marks Spencer's reputation, and he invited me to

lunch, and through the course of the lunch, there would be a knock on the

door and in through the door would come a man. A bit like that but

hairless! And he would come in and wearing -- be wearing a pair of

briefs, and then a thong, and then boxer shorts, and all the time,

Stuart Rose having a tremendous time saying, do feel the quality of the

cotton! A novel experience! We already a minute over! We will have

to move on. All will be revealed in Bass Rock, which is out now! Now,

Jeremy might have been broadcasting for more than 40 years but another

institution has been broadcasting for even longer. We have given Lucy

just three minutes to sum up 70 years of Woman's Hour.

I am at Broadcasting House about to be interviewed by a radio legend.

This is Jenni Murray, welcoming you to Woman's Hour. Lucy joins me to

talk about slow fashion. In 1946, as women tried to adjust back into a

role in the home, there was appetite for a radio show just for them.

Originally presented by a man, the show didn't immediately hit the

right note. Well, I would like to ask all the husbands the table

whether it is a good idea to have more than one wife. It depends on

the wife you have already! Thankfully, perhaps, a woman soon

took over and the show began to tackle relevant topics, including

the two blue... I think the next item will make some of you very

angry but these two people have chosen to cohabit rather than marry

and they give their reasons. On Woman's Hour, it is jam, Jerusalem

and genital warts! Sorry about the vulgarity, but that doesn't cover

it. They continue to push boundaries and the responsibility of hosting

fell to Sue MacGregor. I was sent to South Africa to interview Winnie

Mandela. He was very much in jail and she was banned. That was

famously charged because the house was raided while you were there?

Yes. It is extremely difficult to explain to your own children the

presence of these forces in your own home... She said, you have gone

quite white. I said, well, yes. She said, don't worry, they do this

every day. What was it like interviewing the Iron Lady? She came

in quite nervous and I was surprised. She said, do you think

they will be able to tell our voice apart? I said, I suspect so. You

don't get to be a thriving, vigorous, enthusiastic country by

saying to people, you make money and we will taxi. But here is a

surprising fact. Out of almost 3.5 million weekly listeners, a third of

them are men. Matt Smith is a football pool cost and also an avid

woman's hour listener. -- Woman's Hour listener. Why are you

listening? Woman's Hour? They often look for a woman point -- one's

point of view to address topics. It's not done in an an inclusive way

for men and what I find is with a family that includes a wife and

daughter, late in the day when I see them, I bring up the topics I've

heard that maybe they haven't from the programme. And they either agree

or disagree, but it informs a talking point, which is the mark of

a good show. What do you think is responsible for the enduring appeal

of Woman's Hour? I think women can like to cook, don't like to cook,

you know, the huge range of interests. And we reflect that.

Woman's Hour has become a national institution. And 70 years old, it is

still going strong. A very happy birthday to Woman's

Hour, 3.5 million viewers, listeners even, not viewers!

It is on the radio. Thurau the programme tonight Jeremy has been

sketched by our friend here, and it's now time to find out a little

bit more about him. He has a slightly gentler interviewing

approach than Jeremy. Who he is sketching actress whose own image

has made headlines. I'm Adebanji Alade,

an artist who loves to sketch People's lives are etched onto their

faces. When I see a face I see a story and drawing them means I can

be part of their story. Today I'm going to draw actress Leslie Ash who

starred in the British classic Quadra Ruffini and became a

household name for her role in the award-winning Men Behaving Badly and

has had roles in prime-time dramas but her career in recent years has

been overshadowed by her appearance recently. You've always been on

show. This must have been ingrained in new. The way we looked was always

quite important to my mum. She was my number one fan. The way the

public saw me is basically how I was portrayed in the press so I suppose

I've been portrayed as being a bit silly and I've made a few mistakes.

To be honest that's not me. I want to find a way to paint her the way I

see her. Would you say that the press, have they been kind with you?

It's a strange thing being papped as they say. At the beginning you

wanted it to happen. People would come through Heathrow Airport and

have big coats and sunglasses on and you would think, God, I want to be

like that, you know? And then it all started in the 80s, paparazzi fever,

they became quite invasive. Pictures didn't always look nice. They would

always tend to want to get the picture where you didn't look very

nice. When I sketch someone and they are talking there is something about

what they're saying, it resonates, especially when they are very

genuine about what they are saying. It's almost like the whole picture

speaks to me. Would there ever be a time when you have looked into the

mirror and you didn't like what you saw? I have tried cosmetic surgery.

I've messed up big time. Seriously, I regret ever having anything done

in the past. It was a really silly thing to do. And as I say, learn

from my mistakes. In 2004 while being treated in hospital Leslie

contracted a hospital acquired infection, MMSA. When something like

that happens, when you are so lucky to survive, it is life changing. I

had to start again, learning to walk. Your image was everything to

you. Because of your business and what you did. My husband was a

footballer and we always knew that his career would come to an end. I

just never imagined anything would stop me becoming an actress. I just

thought I'd picked a good one here, I can do it until I pop my clogs,

basically. It's sort of surprised me how difficult and how brutal it was

really that it just stopped. I think it makes you tougher. You start to

realise that actually it's not all about you. Sometimes you just think,

actually, just get on with it. Yeah. Just go with it, and 56-year-old

disabled woman getting on with my life, getting on with my career.

What is your core identity now? What would you say? Mother, that's what I

feel I've really done well at. I'm finding it difficult with the age

process, I have to say. It's not an easy thing to go through. My sons

want me to grow old gracefully. OK! That's good. Which are not very

happy about it but I will. Image was so important when I was younger

because you just didn't know what was going to happen, you would just

go with the Times. I never used to leave the house is my hair was

blow-dried and sometimes now I just let it go natural, which is quite

curly, actually. My mother had curly hair and I'm sort of like turning

into my mother. I was very close to my mum, my mum passed away in 2000.

You have this fear of them passing on the Batson to you, you have to

just carry on and do your best for your kids -- bat on. Using the time

sketching Leslie I've created a portrait of the way I see her.

Wow. Adebanji, how long did it take for the finished painting? Close to

16 hours. Really? Not everything was finished alive, I had to do some

after. There is a lot in that face. You've been going 20 minutes or so

on Jeremy. Has he got a good face to sketch? Brilliant come out of this

world. We are talking about a sketch, not a caricature, aren't we?

No, no, this is a sketch. The first thing is your nose. I've spent my

whole life being told I have a huge hooter. I tell you what, those

intricate parts of your face, I love them. I look forward to seeing it.

We will have a look shortly. OK. Adebanji normally sketches on public

transport a lot, on the train. What you look for in a good face? The

light, the shade, the texture, beauty, wrinkles. It could just be

the mood people are in. I think most Londoners are not happy going to

work so they create a good feeling to sketch. The first one you saw is

you in a winter hat wasn't it? When I don't have anyone to sketch I look

at a reflection of myself in the window of the train. It is just

addictive, I love sketching and I have to do it. We were talking

earlier on that you don't use an eraser at all. It plays on your

brain, go straight for pen or something you cannot eraser so your

brain gets used to not making mistakes. We are unique and

wonderful as human beings, so yes. I think we should reveal your work to

Jeremy, if you are ready. I am ready. Just 20 minutes. That was

very quick. APPLAUSE

I tell you what, that is, yeah, isn't that wonderful. That is

recognisable! It's definitely you! Thank you, Adebanji.

From reading Jeremy's but we know he has struggled to find club to join

when he was at Cambridge but if he had a head for heights he might have

wanted to try the Ultima University challenge. Hey! Good one. Iwan

Thomas has discovered the Night Climbers, or as we like to call it

Posh Parkour. I'm on the trail of a secret

society, one that was set up over 80 years ago here amongst the hallowed

halls of Cambridge University. But they were not an underground

organisation, they operated on a far higher plane under the cover of

darkness. They were called The Night Climbers of Cambridge.

Their shadowy aim was to scale the buildings and walk the rooftops of

Cambridge in celestial splendour, inspired by a little-known book.

Someone who knows this book intimately is Doctor Bradley

Garratt, an academic and writer on urban exploration.

This book is The Night Climbers of Cambridge, published in 1937. It's a

collection of photographs and stories from about 24 Night Climbers

over the course of 20 years. This phenomenon began because some

students liked to go to the pub but the college locked the gates at

10pm, so with nothing to do they discovered that the builders of

Cambridge had plenty of natural footholds -- buildings. People would

scale these wars just to not get into trouble? Absolutely. That looks

worn down from people's feet. That is precisely what it is from, you

can see along the fence all the way up to the top would be a match from

night scaling. They suddenly got interested by what else they could

climb. The Night Climbers wore no special clothing, apart from the odd

tweed jacket and silk scarf. They usually would climb without ropes

and wouldn't balk at scaling the near 100 foot high King's College

already Deeping through midair. This is one of the most dangerous climbs

in Cambridge, going in the drainpipe over Senate House passage and when

you get to the top of the drainpipe jumping across the gap, called the

Senate House leap. That is a good six foot gap. If they felt they

would definitely break their legs and might die. The plucky Night

Climbers liked to let people know about their exploits, and they would

leave things in full view, Santa hats, toilet seats, underwear, and

in 1958, this. They were engineering students so

they basically constructed this winch and winched the van up onto

the roof and left it there and everyone worked up in the morning

and there was a van on top of this any house. The Night Climbers are

still conquering the summits of Cambridge even today. The Times

journalist used to be one of them. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

He will demonstrate a climb at the Royal Holloway College just for The

One Show. Cambridge didn't want to play. How on earth did you get in

tonight climbing? I got given the book by my dad. You

are 18 at university, who wouldn't want to be part of that?

Today Tom's best friend is this guide rope, in the interests of

safety and the avoidance of a lawsuit he will be attached to this

line at all times, and I know it is supposed to be a night but that's

health and safety for you. Feeling all right? Yes, it should be fun.

Fun? Have a good one. Jiyas. Shall I leave you to concentrate? No, it is

OK. It is lovely. What would you like me to do now? I was just

reading up on what you crazy lot do, you just look like him. He is using

the drainpipe. Many of the Night Climbers became proper explorers,

four of whom went on to summit Everest. But there is a different

legacy to these posh pranks and it doesn't require the wearing of

tweeds. Our modern urban explorers and death-defying rooftop climbers

can trace their lineage back to The Night Climbers of Cambridge. Come

on, Tom. Nearly bare. He is taking ages. Hello. Well done. Jiyas.

Unlovely One Show flag. # No mountain high enough #

The question is, did you ever find yourself climbing the walls of any

building at Cambridge? I used to climb the walls but I

never did that stuff. The furthest I got was climbing in after the gates

had been locked. Gertje stop out! Locker room interloper! -- dirty

stop out! It has all been revealed to night.

11 questions will be released soon. Do you want that sketch? Thank you

very much. Tomorrow we'll be joined by

Jasper Carrott and Alistair McGowan.