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Why don't we introduce him ourselves? It is Nicky Campbell.

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You have got the best researchers in the world on this programme.

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They haven't let us down. In the early 80s, when you were doing your

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radio, this is what you looked like. # Nicky Campbell! Look at the

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earring as well. This is character assassination. What is the key to a

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good jingle? Not what you heard, I would say. I thought it was all

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right. Short and to the point, it is a skill that the best people do

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well. Putting something into 30 seconds. It is a real skill, and I

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wish I had it. We wish we had it, too. We had a go. We are not

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confident about this, but see what do you think.

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# It is time for The One Show with Last night saw the premiere of

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Robin Gibb's latest musical project, a requiem written for the 1517

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souls that perished on the Titanic. Robin was too ill to attend but a

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few weeks ago, he managed to leave his hospital bed to tell The One

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Show why the Titanic mean so much to him.

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# It's a tragedy. The Bee Gees have sold millions of

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records during their long and glittering career, and the soaring

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harmonies make up one of the most recognisable sounds in pop music.

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# Staying alive, staying alive. Robin de Beer Co wrote the

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momentous Bee Gees songs, but more recently -- Robin Gibb co-wrote the

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Bee Gees songs but he has been recording alongside his son, RJ,

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for his first classical piece and he has called it Titanic Requiem.

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Titanic Requiem is a full classical work, written for a choir and

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orchestra to perform, and it tells the story of the ship's tragic

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journey. Where did this project start? I began to get interested in

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Titanic when I was about 16. I have always been fascinated with it

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since then. My grandmother came home when she was 13. Saw her

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mother crying in the kitchen. She said that beautiful ship had just

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sunk. She remembered that vividly. Among their Titanic artefacts is a

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telegram received by the sister ship, the Olympic, just a day after

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the tragedy. Received as follows. Turn back now, everything OK, we

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have 800 aboard. This is the original Marconi ground from 16th

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April. From a ship having picked up survivors. Yes. A passion for the

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story of the Titanic led Father and Son into the studio, where they

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wrote their requiem. Each of the 15 tracks covers a different stage of

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the ship's final journey. Some people may not know what a requiem

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is, could you explain. Some people have their own version of that mass,

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the mass is the same but it could take on different music. It will

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take on different music. Haydn had his own mass, Brahms, Mozart.

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Having composed their requiem, Robin and RJ went into the studio

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last year for a series of recording sessions with the Royal

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Philharmonic Orchestra. Had you worked together before? We have

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collaborated on things, but never an album. How does that dynamic

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work? We work like clockwork. Literally painting the emotions

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through music, is it different to writing a pop song? Is there a

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different process? No, there are only eight notes you can work with.

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The difference is getting them in the right order and not everybody

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does, other rice everybody would be having a successful composing

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career -- otherwise. The difference is if you have got a knack of

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knowing something, RJ I discovered early on had it, you just know

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early on that it works. We write to the melody. When you write a pop

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song, you write to the melody first. When you have an orchestra, you put

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the orchestra down before the vocal. Describe the feeling the first time

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you heard the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra strike up your writing.

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To hear it come to fruition, it was One of the most contemporary

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sounding pieces of music is Don't Cry Alone, which she did the vocal

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four. It was spontaneous. -- which I just sent to what I hear, which

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is the way I have always composed. We want people to remember that

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this is not just striving to be a beautiful piece of work, it is

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remembrance for the 1517 people who A huge thank-you to Robin and RJ

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for making that film for us, and all of our thoughts are with the

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Gibb family at this difficult time. You were saying you visited Robin's

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house during a Radio 1 Special many years ago. That is right, he is a

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wonderful man and the three brothers have such a great bond.

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This was one of the greatest privileges I ever had, to go over

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to Miami Beach and do a special in the Radio 1 days. They live right

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on the shoreline and all of these boats went past. The boats were

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saying, on your right, it is where their Bee Gees lives. And all of

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the brothers would run out and wave. Because they really care about

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their fans and they never lost that. Talking of families, your latest

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series, Long Lost Family, is back. Why do you think it struck such a

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chord with viewers? With Davina, Thursday night. It just resonates

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with people. It is about longing, it is about family. It is just

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about love as well. Some of the stories, the people we have

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reunited, astonishing stories. We watched the first episode the other

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night, me and my wife. She is still in recovery. We watched it earlier.

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You meet some incredible people who have remarkable stories. What have

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been some of the highlights? have done quite a lot of mothers

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from mother-and-baby homes in the 60s, when attitudes and values were

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very different, society was very different. To have a mother in

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front of you talk about the smell of a baby, something she has never

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forgotten... The smell is such a powerful time machine. She just

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shut her eyes, and she was just back there with her baby. And after

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that, decades of anguish, to be able to say, we have found him and

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he wants to meet you, and here is his photograph, it is one of the

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greatest... To be there at that moment is extraordinary. Absolutely.

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Here, we can see Fabia, one of the ladies in the first episode and she

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is reading a letter from Mark, the first correspondents there have

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been between them. It is very emotional. Dear Fabia. This has not

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been an uneasy night as an easy letter to write, the emotions are -

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- this has not been an easy letter I hope to start putting the pieces

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back together. Until then, I remain sincerely yours, Mark. Nicky, last

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time you on, you told us you had met up with your birth mother and

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father, you understand what feelings these people are going

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through. Do you feel like you are intruding a bit with the cameras

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and all of that there? They are such a wonderful team who do it.

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They do it with such a sense of respect as well. Obviously, these

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people are self-selecting, they want to do this. The structure,

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their hands are held all along and the structure is really reassuring

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and comforting for them. Everyone at the end of it is in a better

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place, because questions answered. When I met my birth mother, it was

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the most terrifying moment of my life. It is a stranger who looks

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like me, the most powerful thing. I didn't have any help. I was kind of

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all alone and it was difficult. Providing that help has been great

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for people. MAC -- she says, I am looking at a stranger but feel like

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I have known him all my life. a rugby coach at my old school.

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What is great about him, he is a strong guy, a tough man, but

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underneath, we are all little babies at heart. A very powerful

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Series. Long Lost Family begins tomorrow night at 9pm on ITV1.

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radio phone-in is a British institution, which allows anyone

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with an opinion, and a phone, the chance to have their five minutes

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of fame on the nation's airwaves. But where did it come from, and

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would Alex Riley be able to host one without any training? Caller,

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you are on the air. We talked to Felixstowe dock workers about the

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takeover. Greece, Rangers, in financial trouble, what about you.

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You are talking about black girls and their attitude to white gulls?

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You are an absolute disgrace. radio phone-in, the perfect place

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to hear people talk about life, death or even just football. They

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offer the perfect platform for discussing the issues of the day,

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or for sharing your pain with the It only really took off in the UK

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after the early 70s, when the BBC's monopoly of radio broadcasting

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ended and the new independent stations, such as LBC, embraced the

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new form. The radio phone-in was the first ever reality broadcasting,

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because it gave you an insight into ordinary people. We used to do

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phone-ins because of needle time. Every time you played a record, you

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had to pay quite a large chunk of money. Then they realised, that the

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talk part of the programmes is actually what the audience wanted.

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It can't be that difficult to get British people to phone a radio

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station and have a right good moan. But how does the presenter turn

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that into an entertaining piece of radio? I suppose there is only one

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way to find out. Pete Price is something of a

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Liverpool talk radio legend. Every night we get the radiance -- the

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idiots. When we had a psychic on, we had 19,000 people in two hours

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trying to get on. Are you trying to provoke people, are you a shock

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jock? I am not, I have an opinion. I will not stand any garbage.

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Tonight, he is going to let me take over his show to see what it is

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like to be the man on the other end of the phone. The in the moment, a

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co-presenter from the BBC. Hello. You are not talking yet! I am

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beginning to wonder what I let myself in for. What are they

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phoning about? Hillsborough, and care for the elderly. Your next

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call is travel. Patients being so thirsty that they drank water from

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flower vases. From my personal experience, I know that when it

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comes to geriatric care, a lot of patients are not given the kind of

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care that they need. Quite a tricky call to start with.

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Be it is the day football changed for ever for lots of people. A

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apparently the Titanic was the largest moving man-made object on

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earth. I want to speak about that gentleman. Abreu hands it?

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should have been thrown out with his prove. Oh! Put their neck.

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They think I am totally stupid. And you are touching these buttons.

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very sensitive, these buttons. A lot of people are saying A-levels

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are too hard. You have to focus on the A levels you are studying on

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right now. Best of luck with it. Goodbye. That was so intense. I am

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absolutely drained and Pete has another two-and-a-half hours to go.

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I am going to go home now and lie He did all right! You do get

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drained. It shows the adrenalin was working and he was getting into it.

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He was doing a late night one. Is there much difference between a

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morning phone-in and the late one? Which do you prefer? For they both

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have an intimacy. For five years I did a late night show on Radio One

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with music and interviews and people on the phone. We used to

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smoke in those days. In the studio? Yes. Simon Bates had an ashtray

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with his own cigars. The desks clamp and a microphone and it was

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dark outside. For a fog of smoke. It felt like you were Clint

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Eastwood or something! Is it right that you used to ring into local

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radio station and put on different voices? You really have done it...

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When I was a kid I used to call my local radio station. There's a rich

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irony about what I'd do now. what sort of voices? You put one on

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for Sheila Fogarty. Yes, her last show. A very bolshie guest. Built

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on dreams of transatlantic travel, the Bristol Brabazon was one of the

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largest aircraft of its day. As the villagers of Charlton found out,

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It was one of the biggest aircraft on earth, a transatlantic jumbo

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years ahead of its time. To house it, the hangar, the biggest the

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world had ever seen, was built in 1946. In order to get this giant to

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fly, a village was razed to the ground. This is the story of the

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Bristol Brabazon. Nearly all of Bristol took advantage of this

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invitation in the hope they would see the world's largest airliner

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take the air. September 1949, the official maiden flight of the

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Bristol Brabazon, Britain's great hope for non-stop transatlantic

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travel. It was exciting for myself and all of the ground crew. After

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all these years, this magnificent aircraft would take to the sky.

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was the man responsible for towing the plane onto the runway. Because

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of the size of the aircraft, we had big ground crew walking because it

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has so far away. I had to go at walking pace. This was probably the

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dramatic moment. With the expected crowds watching from here, at about

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10am, the pilot revved the eight engines, the beast droned down the

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Transatlantic air travel was taking But as yet, no aircraft could fly

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non-stop from London to New York without refuelling. Britain and

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America were he to head in the race and the man in charge of our bid

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was the pilot, Lord Brabazon. myself won a prize of �1,000 for

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flying a mile on an all-English machine. In 1909 he made the

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history books as the first person in the country to fly a mile. But

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it was another first that he was just as proud of. The old adage,

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pigs might fly. I took the first little follow-up. He didn't like

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it! It was only fitting that the airport that bore his name was to

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be more luxurious and larger than anything the Americans could offer.

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For sleeping compartments, a rare saloon with the cinema screen and

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But not everyone was celebrating. June was just eight when the

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Brabazon made its fame -- maiden flight. My parents would not take

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me, I was desperate to go. They wouldn't go. Why not? Probably too

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upset. The sheer size of the Brabazon meant that the runway had

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to be extended. Straight through the nearby village of Charlton. 17

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acres were seized, up to 40 families forced out. June's family

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home was bulldozed to the ground and her way of life destroyed to

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make way for the mighty Brabazon. remember going around saying

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goodbye to all of the places I laughed as a child. I really loved

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the orchard we used to play in. I loved that. He the villagers had

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sacrificed their homes for transatlantic progress. But the

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Brabazon would only ever use the runway for test flights. This

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prototype was a financial disaster. The design but luxury before Speed

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said. Not one was sold. Smaller planes could carry more passengers

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can travel faster. The great Brabazon was doomed because it was

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just that, too great. In the next three years, of the Brabazon made

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163 flights around Britain. It crossed the Channel to Paris, but

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it never crossed the Atlantic. In July 1953, for the government

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announced it was to scrap the plane. This is one of the few surviving

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pieces of her. Britain had lost the transatlantic race at the cost of

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nearly �125 million in today's money. But it wasn't completely

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wasted. Other aircraft designs built on the experiences of the

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Brabazon and within a decade, aircraft like the Britannia had

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finally crossed the Atlantic. is here. We saw the Britannia

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taxiing to the runway. Where did she land? That was the first plane

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to fly non-stop over 5,000 miles from Britain to the west coast of

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Canada. That was a great aircraft. Then we have the Comet as well.

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That was in a way the world's first really modern passenger aircraft

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except that it had metal fatigue and a couple of times it evaporated

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in the air. It got overtaken by the Boeing. It was a great aircraft in

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many ways. It went on to have a long career, but it had a key

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design fault with metal fatigue. That is when Boeing stole the show

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and went on to be the biggest name. But all of these companies are now

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part of the Airbus team that make the huge A380. Britain is leading

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the world again in air travel. Crossing the Atlantic by air

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started in the 1920s. Yes, everybody forgets. These big

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Zeppelins. They were crossing the Atlantic. There was one called the

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100 that went from Britain to Canada. The Germans set the pace

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initially, this was the 101 after that picture was taken, it crashed

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on to a hillside in France. They crossed the Atlantic in three-and-

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a-half days. Talking about Titanic this week... Are not safe on there.

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The Hindenburg crashed and that was the end of the Zeppelin's, but they

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are coming back. The US Army has started to use them. Can you

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imagine setting out in the 1920s? No good way of getting across the

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Atlantic in the 1920s. Are you one of those people who worry about how

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safe your bank details are online? Yes. He's paranoid. This is Marty

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Jopson to help put yours and mine minds at rest.

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The need to protect a or personal information has never been more

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important. With millions and millions of transactions taking

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place every day on the internet, just what is keeping our financial

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details safe? You just trust it. But maybe you shouldn't. It doesn't

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feel safe enough. I don't know how my bank details are secured.

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Surprisingly, it is all done with prime numbers. Your computer

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automatically uses them whenever you shop or bank online. Fees are

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numbers you can only divide by themselves or by one. First

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understood thousands of years ago, they were long thought to have no

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practical use. But that changed in the late 60s and 70s. We realised

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that you could do something really useful with them. A quirky code-

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breaker called James Ellis was working at the government

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communications headquarters in Cheltenham. He was wrestling with

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how the military could safely exchange secret messages.

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Traditionally, it is always the sender of the message that creates

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these codes. But Ellis's radical approach was to turn this on its

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head and get the receiver of the message to create these codes

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instead. It sounds counter intuitive, but here is how it works.

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The principle is that a securely receive a secret message, I need

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something like a padlock that only I know the combination to. I then

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distribute a whole load of identical padlocks that are opened

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with the exact same code. Somebody sending me a secret message then

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uses one of these to locket in a secure box. -- lock it. Only I can

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now open this box because only I This principle works with padlocks

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and combinations, but Ellis could not work out how to achieve this in

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the electronic world. Incredibly easy way to scrambler message had

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to be found that would be impossible to a unscramble unless

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you had a unique piece of information. The best minds at GCHQ

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had struggled to find an answer to this for years until a young

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mathematician named Clifford Cocks joined them. Fresh out of

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university, he was an expert in number theory and when the worlds

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of pure mathematics and secret communications collided, and answer

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was found. His solution was that the code and scramble a secret

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message should be made up of two prime numbers which were multiplied

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together created a coat that scrambled that in the first place.

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It feels almost too simple. But it is the perfect way to do it. This

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number was made by multiplying together two different prime

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numbers. Easy. But before you have is this number, and you want a

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workout what those two original prime numbers are, that is really

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hard. There's no equation or shortcut for doing this so I have

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to go through a list of prime numbers and try to discover the

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ones that work. I've done it! 1069, 2393. Computers today would have no

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problem with the seven digit figure, but the prime numbers being used to

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scramble into their messages like banking details Ojo enormous.

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Luckily for us, when we perform internet transactions, they are

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created by computers so we don't have to admit is completely normal

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for them to be more than 300 digits long. A typical PC would take maybe

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2 million years to control of the numbers required to crack the code.

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Internet shopping is completely safe? The information as it is

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travelling over the internet is certainly safe. It is the end

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points that are vulnerable. internet transactions are safe. But

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it is when your information is stored on a computer, and scrambled,

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that it is vulnerable to hackers getting at it directly. Ellis and

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Cox's pioneering work should have been what revolutionise internet

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commerce, but because they worked for the government it remained

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secret until recently. Four years after their breakthrough, though, a

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group of Americans independently came up with the exact same

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solution. It was their work that eventually led to the secure

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internet shopping we all use today. I'm not sure I still trusted!

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leave your card lying around. He will crack it. Nicky, another of

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the shows you present is the Big Questions on BBC One on Sunday

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mornings -- Sunday mornings. Settling some of the huge moral

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debates. We would love to get involved in a big debate, but we

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don't have time. We thought we would ask you this more questions.

:27:43.:27:53.
:27:53.:27:53.

-- the small questions. Did you do that jingle? Es. Very talented. We

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will start with the issue of right to life. Is it ever acceptable to

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kill a wasp? I try not to. I take a Buddhist approach to it, I try not

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to kill a living creature if I can avoid it. Do you waft? Aspired in

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the bath and I will take it out. do that. Domestic issues. This is

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tough. How often should you change your bedsheets? Good one! I think

:28:25.:28:34.
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once a year whether you need to or not. Come on! Once a week.

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there ever a justification for licking a yoghurt lid publicly?

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Yes! Finally, this is a culture one. Is moving 5 Live to Salford a

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