12/05/2014 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker.

Our guest tonight is a messiah of pop music who has duetted with some

of the best in the business, from Robbie Williams to Enrique Iglesias

But it was a recent colloboration that saw her realise her potential

Great to see you, so that was you on the Italian version of The Voice

with Sister Cristina. Lots of people would probably assume she was the

real deal? She is the real deal, and of the four finalists left, the

other ladies were foxy but she was the most sprightly. It looked really

good fun. I actually got her to do this move. It is very infectious

because everybody here was doing it too. Now Conchita Wurst's win must

have surprised quite a few people. Online there is an interesting

comment, her real name is Thomas and she really achieved a celebration of

diversity. Eurovision should be about surprises anyway but they

didn't see that one coming. The biggest surprise is that maps

downloaded the whole Eurovision album. A compilation? It was ?9 and

37 songs. There is a lot on there that I like. Since she won, a lot of

people have been channelling her luck. Here is Nigella. Separated at

birth! This is what Kylie might look like as Conchita. Kiss me once,

Conchita! Send in your pictures to the usual address and we will have a

look. Now here is Gloria with some advice to anyone who wants to extend

their home. You could end up paying more in

council tax than you expected. The extension constitutes a separate

dwelling, and instead of getting one council tax bill, you get two. In

December 2011, Martin and Kieron bought this house with an extension

that have been added to six years earlier but after they moved in

there got a letter from an organisation saying that our council

tax purposes, the extension would now be classed as a separate

dwelling. We just couldn't believe it when that letter came. It has its

own separate bedroom with ensuite facilities and they classified the

utility space as a kitchen and we could plug in a microwave there so

we had cooking facilities. The extension was classed as a separate

Band-Aid property so that as well as having to pay on average ?150 per

month for the last three years, they have had an extra ?2000 in total to

pay for their extension. Nobody else lives with them and they use the

extension only as a utility room and a guest bedroom. Their argument for

that was that there is potential use for the area. Martin and Kieron have

had to go to great lengths to convince the authority that their

home is only one dwelling. We have taken out the sink, taken out the

power points, and now they have classed it as one property but they

have raised the band of the Council tax. They will now have to pay an

extra ?350 per year after their band increase. The valuation office

agency steps in whenever a property is sold, and decides whether its

council tax status should be changed. It is estimated by the

government that there are over 24,000 annexes and extensions in

England alone so this double council taxation could affect a lot of

people. Sue and Paul decided to build an extension when Sue's mother

moved in with them five years ago but when they put their house on the

market the same thing happened. Along came an extra council tax

bill. When you are getting permission to

add on what you have, did anybody say to you that you are opening

yourselves up to have two council tax bills? No, we weren't informed

at all. All of the correspondence we had, nothing was ever mentioned with

regards to two separate banding is on this property. Did you ever

raised the issue yourself? No, we never thought it was relevant

because we treat it as one family home. There seems to be a lack of

communication between the various departments of the council and

homeowners. Planning expert Ian has come to shed some light on it. If

you are just building an extension with an extra bedroom, that's

unlikely to be classed as a true annex. If you put in extra bathrooms

and kitchens, you move towards that being self-contained and the agency

will get interested. What most councils provide now is

pre-application advice. I'm not sure many councils at the meeting will

flag up the issue of council tax. Every local authority have their

policies and really it just needs to be a sentence in there for the

potential of liability. So many council tax bills, so many

questions. I have come to Sue and Paul's local authority to get some

answers. This is the leader of Herefordshire county council. The

main complaint seems to be that nobody told us, so surely there must

be responsibility somewhere in the planning? There is no formal

requirement to provide such notification but the point you raise

is a good one and whilst it has not been done in the past, we would be

happy to make sure that anybody in the future who applies for in annex

onto their house, we will draw attention to the fact that the

application could bring with it an additional council tax liability. So

you are giving us the assurance it could happen in the future. Here in

Herefordshire it will happen. A real result for the One Show. Literally

it turned around on the day of filming. As you gathered, people

don't get the warning upfront so when you apply for your extension,

they don't say to you, listen, be careful because this could create

two council tax bills. If you are buying a house, as those two chaps

did, you must make sure your solicitor does a search upfront to

make sure you know whether the house will attract two bills. If you are

building an extension, you may have seen two doors but they argue the

second door was already there. On the other hand they did not know

about exemptions for their mother or about the 50% reduction because the

government is now of course encouraging people to put on an

extension to help young people, not just elderly people, to help young

people because they cannot get on the property ladder. If you're

elderly parent is over 65, thank goodness you are not, then they are

exempt. This is a quirk in the law, providing the grandma or grandad is

living in the annex and not the original house. This is a little

quirk, but who is going to check that night where grandma is

sleeping? And you are on the hunt for some more stories for Rip Off

Britain? Yes, food, clothes, everything. The address is at the

bottom. You are sorting everybody out. Kylie, I know you were watching

that film closely but I hope this housing issue won't be a problem for

you in Australia. Listen to this voice, do you recognise it? It is

Daniel here, hey mum! I know where you are going with this. I don't

recognise it! The characters of Scott and Charlene from Neighbours

have been living happily ever after off-screen. We couldn't look more

awkward! Now they have a son who appears on our screens for the first

time tomorrow on Channel five, and we have this message for you. Hey

Mum, it is Daniel here, your son, in case you didn't recognise me. I

haven't heard from you for ages and somebody told me you have been busy

on The Voice and releasing a new album. You never told me that. Give

me a call, that would be great because I really miss you. That is

brilliant. He is very handsome! That is so brilliant. I don't really

follow the show, maybe I am going to get back into it now and keep an eye

on my song. That was just brilliant. Have you ever seen him before? I

have seen a picture but that is the first time. You need to be more

hands-on as a mother, Kylie. He should be more like 12 years of age.

She did Skip Ramsay Street quite young, I have to say. The family is

still together. A group of people are trying to prevent a mountain in

the Lake District being sold to an outsider and they are appealing for

donations from across the country. It could cost them ?2 million so

they have an uphill task ahead of them.

In this small parish hall, there is an important meeting not concerning

schools, roads or public services, but about something the locals have

a passion for. A mountain. This mountain rises to just under 2850

feet high. Commonly known as Saddleback, this mountain is up for

sale. The estate agents describe Saddleback, this mountain is up for

sale. The estate agents it as a unique investment opportunity. They

would, wouldn't they? But why is it for sale? Well, the owner, the Earl

of Lonsdale, has to pay a huge inheritance tax bill. Consequently,

yours for ?1.75 million, and me and Buster now have to climb it. A year

ago, " made a flippant comment on social media saying everybody should

put ?10 into the ports to buy the mountain. It has now led to a public

campaign. People have contacted saying, we want to give you ?3000,

we want to give you our pension. Is this just local people? It is

attracting people from all over the country, Germany, New Zealand,

France. People are talking with their feet. This time last week it

didn't exist. What are the supporters think? It is brilliant.

Even in the snow? Any weather going. Today it has been snowing! I think

it is important to keep the mountain like this for the future. I am

pushing for the summit. This area is protected for people to roam on it

by the countryside and rights of way actor so doesn't really matter buys

it? I met Richard from the National Park authority. It is true to say

the mountain is secured by whoever buyers it, but it would be good if

there was a group that had the long-term interest and conservation

access to this mountain at heart, and this group as do that. As I

struggle on, down below, Debbie is finding it easier to galvanise her

supporters. I have asked for a meeting with the state and the

trustees, because they have it within their gift to make us the

preferred bidder. When you have gone through a certain pain barrier and

beyond a certain elevation, you begin to see the attraction of it.

It is this. Are you here because you would like to see the possibility of

this coming to public ownership? Raise your hand if that is the case.

Thank you. Two hours later, Buster and I have just past the halfway

point, in a biblical downpour. Luckily for Debbie, the weather has

not put a dampener on the meeting. It went really well. People

appreciated Debbie's hard work and it looks as if things have moved

forward. I don't earn a lot of money, but it is something I

passionately believe in. It is not about buying it with something to

get back from it. The views give the reward. It is beautiful. Whether

Debbie and the group managed to raise the funds for the deadline of

the 2nd of July remains to be seen. But one thing we can be certain

about, and that is that this mountain and its spectacular views

are, despite the price tag, priceless. Even on an afternoon like

this. Come on, Buster. You are a soggy doggie!

Sadly, the weather was too bad for Andy to get to the top. But it

proves that you get a lot of weather for your money, if nothing else.

Ever thought about buying a mountain? It has not crossed my

mind. What would you do at the top of a mountain. Let's talk about your

new single. It is called title-macro. And there is a

brilliant story in the song. Tell us what happened? -- it is called I Was

Gonna Cancel. I had two days in the studio with Pharrell. On the second

day, I was having a bad day. And in the car on the way, the voice in my

head was just saying, keep it together, you are fine. You can fall

to pieces at the end of the day. But the first person what I saw one I

got to the studio was Pharrell. He asked how I was, and I burst into

tears. I sat on one of the steps in the courtyard and he was on his

haunches, talking me through. Anyway, out of a really embarrassing

moment, he wrote the most positive song on my album, because I was

going to cancel. Let's have a listen.

I was gonna cancel, but then you reminded me of who I am.

# Everything is clearer than a mirror.

What is that move called? Who knows? You have got the classic Kylie

sound, and also the new Kylie. It is funny. Pharrell is Mr cool, but it

is one of the most poppy songs on the album. Even our parents now know

who Pharrell is. Everything he touches turns to gold and extends

across lots of genres. What is he like to work with? He was very

cool, while dealing with an emotional woman in the studio.

Probably not the first time he has done that, but he was really cool

and created the song there and then. It was wrapped up in a day. He was

on his synthesiser, creating the sounds and putting it together.

Wrote it, I sang it, done. You are so good at reinventing your sound.

So do you know when that is right? There are times when you don't want

to jinx it, but there are times when you definitely have a feeling.

Although I did not have distance on that day in the studio, I still felt

incredibly embarrassed about falling to pieces. But I did think the song

sounded good. And there is good and bad news. Good news, you are going

on tour with your new album. At the bad news is that we lose you from

The Voice. We have also heard rumours that will.i.am is off. Can

you confirm or deny? I don't know. I have no idea. I thought he wanted to

come back. He heard that song, I Was Gonna Cancel, and changed his mind.

Quickly, Kylie - The Musical. We hear rumours about that. One day, it

is going to happen. It takes a long time. It is about getting the book

right. And the longer it takes, the more songs I have to go in the

musical, so maybe it is not about thing. Is it the story of your

life, or is it a story using your songs? We are just deciding which

way to go. A story of my life seems strange to me, but we could do that,

or more of a Mamma Mia thing, where your songs illustrate a good story.

And you would have to cast yourself, which would be strange. Are you

free? I would love to, but I would spoil it. Get a permed blonde wig. I

could give it a go. Do the Eurovision next year with a

beard. Anyway, last month, for the first time in history, the houses of

element were used for the set of a film. Suffragette tells the tale of

struggle for women get the vote, a fight that sort the tactics from

move from martial arts to demonstrations. Here to tell us

about it is Honor Blackman. My role as karate chopping, man

throwing Cathy Gale in the avengers broke down areas of male physical

supremacy over women on television. Never before had a woman being

portrayed as someone who could hold her own in a fight against a man. My

capers caught the eye of the producers of Goldfinger, we then had

the script rewritten to include martial arts, and I even wrote a

book on self-defence. Luckily, I have never had to defend myself in

real life. Although, of course, I know I could if I had to. But for

one group of women in history, it became an absolute necessity. In the

first head of the 20th century, women were fighting for the right to

vote. The suffragettes, as they became known, were growing in

number. The movement decided they needed to defend themselves from the

police, who they saw as an aggressive enemy. One woman was of

stick in importance in this change of tactics. Her name was Edith

Garratt, a teacher of the Japanese martial art, jujitsu. In 1909, Edith

taught here in Golden Square, London, with her husband. So how did

Edith, only for four to 11 in height, become such a key person in

the fight for women's rights? Dr and Myleene Godfrey is a historian who

has researched the life of Edith Garratt. In 1909, they were invited

by Emmeline Pankhurst and the suffragettes to give a

presentation. Everybody loved it. They said, and you become more

involved with us? I can't think that I would ever have enabled to do

battle with a long dress on. Black leather was more to the point.

Within three years, Edith was at the heart of the suffragettes' plans to

resist police authority on including training an elite group of women to

guard Emmeline Pankhurst. Edith and jujitsu became synonymous with the

suffragette movement. One magazine even coined the phrase jujitsu

suffragettes, calling them a new terror for the London police. And on

the 1st of March 19 12, suffragettes met for one of their most audacious

protests yet. They were angry that shopkeepers who were supposed to be

loyal to them were not supporting the cause. There would be ladies

walking across the street by the shops innocently looking at the

windows, and then suddenly they would whip out items such as this

hammer. This is a toffee hammer, which is small. But it is weighty.

They would whip it out, smash a window and ran off. The suffragettes

escaped to Edith Garratt 's dodo, where she provided them with a

refuge. They would put their items under the floorboards, get changed

for a jujitsu lesson, and then the police would come knocking on the

door and Edith would say, this is very un-chivalrous of you, to come

in and interrupted ladies' jujitsu session. We are having a class, I

don't know anything about it. It was unusual for a woman like me in the

1960s to learn a martial art. At the beginning of the last century, it

was even more so. So Blevins and Jenny Cooper are Edith Garratt's and

daughters. She could be quite domineering, but then when you are a

suffragette... She could be very bossy. We knew she was a

suffragette. We knew these -- she threw a policeman over her shoulder,

but other than that, she was just now no. Did she practice anything

new? She held my hand really tight and I had to all her thumb back to

get her hand of me. So how difficult was it for a woman less than five

feet in height, dressed in a full-length skirt and wearing a hat,

to defend herself against a burly Edwardian policeman? She was able to

use the force of her opponent to throw him and demonstrate how a

small person can beat a larger person. Can you imagine your grandma

doing that? Edith Garratt was small in stature, but she was a big figure

in the suffragette movement. And she proved that women can defend

themselves just as well as any man. She is feisty. This is what Mary

looks like without the period costume on. I am about to

demonstrate. Ready? There he is, on the floor. Kylie, come over. Could

you take anybody down? Within reason, yes. How popular is jujitsu

with women? It is fantastically popular. As the suffragettes found,

it is great for small women to empower themselves. It is the same

today. I am as tall as Kylie, and I do OK. Brilliant for self-defence.

Can I do it in high heels? Absolutely. Let's see that one more

time. We did not quite get it the first time. This is the technique

Edith used in an interview when she was 94. What am I doing, punching

again? You are going to punch. That was quick! And he is down. Mary,

thank you very much. Earlier, we asked for your photos in honour of

Eurovision winner Conchita. We have been inundated. You are brilliant at

home for doing this. This is Holly and Daisy, from East Grinstead. They

look very glamorous. Look at Becky, with a knitted beard. Shias 11. --

she is 11. And Victoria Winter, from Folkestone. A group of them,

actually. It has really captured the imagination, this one. What do you

think of this one? Yvonne Green from Keswick, Cumbria. And this one is

amazing. Paula and her friends from Northampton. All six of them with a

Conchita beard. That is it from us this evening. Huge thanks to Kylie.

Her new single is out today, but thee. Pleased you didn't. Tomorrow,

talk-show titan Jay Leno is our guest. See you then.