12/09/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to a Wednesday One Show with Matt Baker And Alex

Jones. Tonight we have a show of winners. Our women did well at the

Olympics. We found a Cornish crew who think they can beat them on

their local waters. It's a challenge. We're catching up with a

teacher from Oldham who finally meets her pupils for the first time

in India. It's a lovely story. There's three women who have won

countless victories for victims of Rip Off Britain, ange la, Gloria

and Julia are here tonight. APPLAUSE

And, we have the man who since winning best comedian at the

Edinburgh Fringe in 1991 has gone from king of the lads to an older

dad. It's Frank Skinner. APPLAUSE

Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you for coming in. We have to start,

I mean obviously there's going to be lots of people in Liverpool

today on your love of football, who amongst real anger are going to

feel like they have won a battle today with the news of the

Hillsborough case. There won't be anyone punching the air. It's

incredible that those people have stuck with that campaign and

finally got an apology from the Prime Minister and complete

vindication for the Liverpool fans, because even as a massive football

lover, it's steadily been filtered into our mind that it was a lot of

drinken people without tickets and it was just rubbish. That was

invented. Anyone who is part of their campaign and who has

supported their campaign, it's quite emotional, should be proud.

It's a first class example of people power. I did a benefit gig

up in Anfield for it. I met some of the families and stuff. It's a

triumph that's come from love. They were determined that they were

going to get what was right for those people. Brilliant. It's been

a long time coming. More from franc later on, of course. First, none of

us know how exactly how we'd react in an emergency situation. When the

moment came for Peter Dodd from Cheshire, he did himself proud.

Chef Ainsley Harriott webt to meet him and helped his local community

to serve up a special thank you. It's not often that you meet a hero,

someone that goes the extra mile. Today, I'm going to do just that.

Hopefully with a little help from my friends, I'm going to create a

feast for him that he'll remember for the rest of his life. Peter

Dodd runs the Post Office in Glazebrook Cheshire. Last October

he was serving his friend 81-year- old Margaret Bloor who two men came

in carrying machetes. What happened next was the stuff of nightmares.

Two raiders grabbed Margaret round the throat. They through the card

rack. It was just a blur, just all happened so quick. I managed to get

them out of the shop, hit the alarms and get onto the police.

Well I was terrified because I didn't know what was going to

happen to me. Then Peter had come to save me. I don't think I'd have

been here today if he hadn't have done what he did. The robbers

eventually fled with nearly �3,000 in cash. Peter had part of his

finger hacked off in the struggle. I'm just an ordinary guy doing what

needed to be done at the time to save Margaret. What Peter doesn't

know is that The One Show has set me a really ambitious task - we

want to thank Peter for his act of Brave New Worldery. By doing that

it means a big -- act of bravery. By doing that it means a banquet.

At 6pm the local community will turn up. The weather and time, hmm,

they're already against me. I need the support of local suppliers to

come up with the ingredients. First BBC Radio Manchester. It's 7.30am.

We've made sure Peter isn't listening. He's busy in the shop. I

appeal for Cheshire grub on the breakfast show. Please phone in, if

you have local cider, chutney, cheese, fish, meat, anything at all,

let me know. Whatever you give me I'll do my best to use all the

produce. Have you not got a menu? I've got nothing mate. I've got 50

people coming. Cheshire I love you, help me! By 8am suppliers are

ringing, so moved by Peter's story they're ready to hand over their

produce. That would be brilliant, get some of your pop corn. Sausages

or burgers. You saying you'd give me �100 worth of meat is fantastic.

You're coming up with a wonderful brass band, that's brilliant. Time

to gather up all the produce that's been pledged. First is franc's

butcher shop. This is a lovely free range loin of pork. Please look

after it. There you go. That is superb. Even the local GP chips in

with cabbages and herbs from the surgery. I caught the news as I was

coming in and it was Peter's name. You know him? Yeah. He's a lovely

chap. If anybody deserves it Peter does. Thanks, doc. And to add to

the loin of pork I got from franc, another butcher has offered me more

meat. What have we got? We've got three selections of burgers, pork

and am, minty lamb, peppered steak, sausages you name it. Give me a hug.

It's for the barbeque. Thank you. The people of Cheshire have been so

generous. I think I have enough meat to feed the crowd. At the

local farm shop they've pulled out all the stops to provide our veg.

These are magnificent. We have lettuce, asparagus. Is that good

enough for you? Superb. Thank you. Peter has no idea what's going on.

He thinks I'm here toint view him about his bravery and that he'll be

meeting me alone. Little does he know the whole community will be

here to surprise him. I've got enough food, but the forecast,

torrential rain, threatens to ruin the party. Back at the Black Swan,

Stewart the landlord has worse news. We lost the gas and the water in

the building works that's happening at the moment, this morning. Thanks.

I'm going back to the kitchen. I have no choice but to soldier on

and hope the pub's utilities get fixed in time. In the kitchen it's

time to tell the boys what I'm planning to do with these wonderful

ingredients. Fantastic menu. We're starting with that roast loin of

pork, sausages, burgers, chicken wings, salad. For dessert it's

meringue with cream cheese, strawberries and blewries --

blueberries. I've got to get on. Poor Ainslie. He's got his work cut

out. On the theme of surprises, we mentioned that you've recently

become a dad. Was Buzz planned? Yeah, he was planned. We were doing

that thing, not that I want to expose my private life, we were

doing that thing "It's Wednesday, we need to have sex" that kind of

thing. It's great. Since he's been born, we don't have that

conversation. It's a great name. I love the name Buzz. Do you, I took

a bit of stick. It's quite a se leb name. You think? Whra would a

younger Franc have made of the name? I was a child of the space

race. Because the second man on the moon was Buzz Aldrin that's where

it came from. My girlfriend suggested it. I couldn't believe my

luck. I think she was basing it on Buzz Lightyear.

LAUGHTER No! She isn't.

I'm in a position I need to say her age, but then I'll be in more

trouble. She's much older - no, not much, but a lot. She suggested it.

We kind of referred to that thing which was in her belly as Buzz. We

called him that so much, it seemed odd to call him anything else.

that theme of Buzz Aldrin, this is for him. We have an -- we have

bought him a -- an acre of the moon. Brilliant. Do you have building

rights? I don't think so. That's so lovely. It will go lovely in all

the photos of me. As well as having a brand new baby, you've written

the second series of your Radio 4 comedy Don't Start, which does

start tonight. Against my express command it does start tonight.

based on two characters called Neil and Kim. They bicker over lots of

things. It's a couple. Every episode is one big argument. It's a

show I've been researching for about 35 years. Did you use your

own stuff? Yes some of them are direct lifts. There's a thing

tonight where she brings up the fact that when they were in

Brighton, in their early days, he accused of her trying to poison him.

And exactly, that's what happened with me and my girlfriend Kath. I

got ill and we were new. You know, whenever you go out with someone

the first three weeks you wonder if they might be a poisoner. I brought

it up. I said, "Can I ask you a serious question, I feel we know

each other now. Are you trying to poison me?" She took against me for

about it. We had blood tests and lie detector... I meant it at the

time. She still brings it up. She has a fantastic memory for

arguments. She can, we can have an argument and I think I've got away

with it and it's over. What she's done is she book marks it and three

days later she'll' say, "By the way on the subject of that..." Wand

we're off again. It's cleverly written Azazi the topic progresses

other arguments sprout off it. Occasionally we have greatest hits

arguments where we bring up all our favourites into one spectacular,

it's like a gig you know. You want to do new stuff but you want a few

old favourites as well. Have you to file arguments. It's what we girls

do. If you have arguments you want franc to give a verdict on, e. Maim

us now. We'll have both sides of the argument. This year it's the

25th an verse since your first stand-up gig. I thought you were

going to say since my first argument! Yes on December 9, I will

have been a comedian for 25 years, which is brilliant. Does it feel

like 25 years? Some Giggs have felt like 25 years in themselves. It

feels brilliant. I tried proper work and I never took to it. I'll

be honest with you. It's the best job ever. What did you try for

proper work? I did, oh, I worked in factories. I had a job smashing up

furniture with a sledgehammer. That wasn't a bad job that. When an end

of line furniture thing they didn't want it to go to market, I what

alone in a room and I smashed it up and put it in a furnace. That

sounds brilliant. These days young comedians cite you as their

inspiration. What advice do you give to the new guys on the block?

Don't be too funny. I always, I mean I do think it's basically

about - I asked an American comedian when I started out and his

advice was "never leave your wallet in the dressingroom". I've got it

with me now. There's very trustworthy people here. Even so, I

think it's a good thing. I just think it's about working at it and

getting hours on stage. Some people think they can just turn up and be

as funny as with their mates but it takes a while to get there. It's

hard, when you have all that experience, to say to people this

is how you do it. I don't really do that. But one woman said to me,

"You know you've been an inspiration to me. I remember

watching you absolutely die at the royal command performance. Whenever

I die I always think of that. "I found that very moving. That's

absolutely true. Now, after our female rowing team did so well at

the Olympics, you'd have forgiven them for taking the rest of the

year off. But when a group of Cornish rowers threw down the

gauntlet for a race, they couldn't say no. Lucy Siegle is there to see

say no. Lucy Siegle is there to see what they've let themselves in for.

These are the boats that our Olympic Coxless pair rowers are

used to. Today, however, they have to deal with this, a bigger boat

and longer oars. With a clutch of Olympic medals you would think that

British rowers have little left to prove. But here in squall, a

challenge has been set that's irresistible to their competitive

It is the professional's versus the fixed CTC rowers. This local boat

is made of Elmet and packed full of history. Andy is the curator of

boats at the National Maritime Museum here in Cornwall. Originally,

Giggs were working boats, they were used to take pilots out to the

ships coming at the Channel. A lot of them competed amongst themselves

in races, because the idea of getting out to the ship first for

business meant that you got the business first and you made the

money. From that, the sport evolved naturally, so the fastest boat got

the work first. As engines and steam came along, the popularity

tended to dwindle, because it tended to be slower, the Rolling

boat, so they were left behind by technology. Around 100 clubs around

the globe keeps the competitive heritage alive, and the best are

all in Cornwall. Milly Edwards are the Roseland Club is a local racing

legend and an authority on the sport. What qualities do you need?

Well, apart from being fit and strong, really a typical row would

be tall with good believers, but if you look at the shape of the boat,

smaller people can go in the smaller bit. So it is about

teamwork. It is all about teamwork, you will find out in a minute.

he reckons anyone can do it. Hold it like Karen is. Is it hard on the

muscles? Yes! So a few pointers and here I go.

Focus on the blade. That is good. It has got to be quick, but get

It will be some time before I am taking them on, but the local

team's confidence is running high. We won the championships at the

weekend, and we are bringing that through tomorrow night to take them

on. So I have had a go, it is quite difficult, are the Olympians going

to be able to cope? It is completely different, they slide,

whereas we go back. They are used to two paddles, so they need to get

used to just having one. Karen is used to it, they are the best crew

Well, the day's action is well under way, and this is a man is no

stranger to racing and the track, Iwan Thomas. Have you been catching

any crowds today? Not yet, there is plenty of time for that, but it has

been a great day here, another great day, and look at all these

people who have turned out to support our rowers. Amazing. Now, I

am a woman of the people, and tonight, because of that, I am on

the side of the amateurs. I love the public, but I have to be

backing the Olympians today, they have had a great summer. This was

going to be really tough of the girls, no carbon-fibre inside, a

big heavy boats, let's see how they The Falmouth crew, straight in

there, amazing technique, they are used to the waters. Look at the

lead they have got. I cannot make excuses for the Olympians, these

guys are amazing! He is clear water, amazing. What a win, they go,

celebrating. That is the salute. Worthy winners. I knew they would

win. They are all here with us now, so let's find out what happened.

are come to start with our Olympians, Helen, were you

embarrassed? That was quite hard. We are definitely not embarrassed,

because these guys are amazing, and it is very different to what we do

every day. Bideford. But not quite well enough, could you go even

faster? We might have been able to in a race boat, but we gave them a

fair chance. I am so proud. I am proud of the locals as well, but I

know what it is like our season, you're not in training, was down to

too much partying? Controversial! have been on a bread and water diet

since the Olympics, I cannot speak for my crew mates, but I have just

been contemplating life. We have been partying for six weeks, we are

in no shape at all! We are going to switch things up. There is an

important race to come, the Andy Ince wants to basque in their

individual glory, their last race of the year, so each of them is

going to captain a boat, and they will get to choose from this motley

crew. Look at all the talent, who Boat! No takers, no takers, I will

try to get into a team anyway. Bath good luck! It has got to be

the end Indians, surely. That was brilliant comedy, looking in the

other direction. It is like when it La dog off. -- when you tell a dog

off. I have had a go at that on Countryfile, it is hard. If you do

not teed up with the rhythm, it smacks you back in the stomach.

This is how we treat our heroes! You have at the open-top bus, now

come and get beaten up in Cornwall. Speaking of heroes, the feel-good

factor from the Paralympic Games is still very much in the air, but the

role played by one of the sponsors, Atos, continues to cause

controversy. Atos runs tests for the government on whether people

qualify for benefits. Many are not happy with the results, as Declan

Law has found out. We spend �13 billion per year on

benefits for people who are unable to work because of disability or

health issues. Now the government is replacing the old benefit with a

new allowance. They say the aim is to find out if some recipients can

actually do some sort of work and come off benefits. French company

Atos have been paid �100 million per year to test everyone who

claimed for benefits to see whether they deserved to continue receiving

it. The test is called the work capability assessment. Since its

introduction, there has been growing anger against the

assessment, with many sick and disabled people saying it is

pushing them to the brink. I first met 59-year-old Chris earlier this

summer, when filming for Panorama. It was immediately obvious that he

was not a well man. Can we stop for a minute? He worked for nearly 40

years, first in the steel industry, and then as a lorry driver. In 2009,

he became seriously ill with emphysema, to the point where his

wife was told to prepare for the worst. He pulled through, but his

health is seriously affected. cannot walk far, 50 metres before I

have to stop. I have to lean against something, catch my breath.

Chris had his first work capability assessment in 2009. He was declared

unfit for work and began claiming employment support allowance. But

following a second assessment, he was declared fit for work and his

benefit was stopped. He appealed the decision and went to a tribunal.

He won his case and his benefits were reinstated. However, just

seven months after that successful appeal, he was called back for yet

another assessment. We secretly Good to see you again. How are you?

This morning, the results of that assessment have arrived. We cannot

pay your employment and support an ounce from the 30th August 2012.

says here because, after attending a medical assessment, it has been

decided that you do not have any limited capability for work, which

means you are fit for work. Yes. What is your reaction to that?

I am shocked. It is just unbelievable, especially when he

has had doctors' notes and consultant's notes to prove that he

is definitely not fit for work. When I won my tribunal, I thought

that would have been hit. Apparently it is not. You have to

go for these medical assessments every year. But Chris's case is not

unique. Each year there are in the region of 180,000 appeals, nearly

40% of which are successful. Some think this number will only

continue to rise. How big an issue is this for you at the moment?

is a huge issue, our number one issue. Your number one issue?

a cost to the public purse, it distress and hardship for the

clients, and for an overstretched Citizens Advice Bureau, it is more

work. And now Atos as won a further �400 million contract to carry out

assessments for a new benefit set to replace disability living

allowance from 2013. This has outraged disability groups, who

have been demonstrating during the Paralympic Games. Ironically, one

of the main sponsors of the Games was Atos. People are really angry

and afraid about the new DNA assessments that will happen

through Atos, because we have seen what has happened already with the

incapacity benefit, which has now become the Employment Support

Allowance. It has been quite horrific. Those of us were not been

assessed already are not looking forward to it happening now, we are

afraid, we are angry, and to be honest we are disgusted that it is

happening at all. People who are on Disability living Allowance and now

facing an anxious wait to see how the new assessments will play out

for them. For Chris, it is back to the Citizens Advice, back to the

appeals process, and back to a whole lot more distress.

Well, Ade Adepitan is here, good job on the Paralympics. Did you

enjoy it? It was amazing, I am feeling a little bit down now,

because I have come back from the high, I wish it could go on forever,

it was awesome. So much talking, slightly croaky and the boys!

parties to celebrate as well. is as close as I will ever get to

being Clare Balding. She is coming in next week! I am not going to say

anything to that. First-half, tell us what Atos and the government

have been saying today. Atos is keen to stress that while it

carries out the tests, it is the Department of Work and Pensions

which makes the decisions. The DWP, when asked, they said reassessments

were important to prevent claimants being written off. The tests have

been improved in the last two years. For all of those who were not sure

about these benefits, what difference do they make to the

lives of people? Disability living allowance is for people with

impairments or disability, to cover their care component and mobility

costs as well. It is not about whether they are in work or not. It

helps for travel costs, you know, because not everyone can get on a

bus for a train, and it helps for the care component, for people with

specific care needs. Is it right to say that some of the athletes who

competed in the Paralympics might not have got there without the

living allowance? It is difficult, because speaking from my point of

view, when I was trying to get into the team, playing for my local team,

it was quite far away, and the national team was far away, I could

not get on to a bus or train with my equipment, so to have a car was

absolutely essential. So yes, I am sure there are athletes who would

say it would have drastically affected their ability to get into

the Paralympics. The Paralympians have been branded a superhuman,

there will be people who are concerned with disabilities, people

might think they are capable of doing things that they are actually

not. People think that because we call an superhumans, they can fly

and stuff like that. They will have got the wrong idea, the reason we

called them that is because there archives will have got serious

impairments who are doing amazing things. But they are very specific

things, they are things on the basketball court or on track and

field. But they still need help with travel expenses, and also with

care needs, because it is the fact that living as a disabled person

can cost more. Thank you very much. The British Gas and oil industry

has recently said it is looking for 120,000 new workers to realise its

full potential. A lot of that potential is buried under places

like the North Sea, and Marty Jopson has been to look at the

latest tools used to find and This is crude oil. You'd think it

would be thick and gloopy. But it's often thin and runy. It's a

precious commodity made from the most basic of sea plants and

creatures, plankton. Plankton absorbs carbon dioxide, dies and

begins breaking down. Some are buried under layers of saidiment

where they are locked in a partially decomposed state. Over

millions of years the heat and pressure caused by layers of

saidiment above them forces liquids and gases out of the remains to be

trapped in the pours in the rock. It may have taken thousands of

millions of years in the making, but it's a finite resource and all

over the world, the race is on to find new areas of oil. I'm joining

a crew of a seismic exploration ship off the coast of Norway.

Before they can drill for oil they have to pin point exactly where it

is. That's what they're doing right now. They use special guns to fire

high pressure air bubbles into the water deep into the sea. They

generate low frequency sound waves which bounce back as echoes. Just

like taking a massive ultra-sound of the rock structure. The only

evidence on board of what's happening below is a slight shudder

and bubbles breaking the water's surface. From this data, they make

images, which are then sold to speculating oil companies. Geophys

sift Matt shows me one snapshot that turned out to be very

lucrative. This is a vertical seismic image under the North Sea.

What are you looking for? These cross cutting reflections. So this

is oil here? This is is. How much? About two billion barrels.

billion barrels of oil - wow! That's a lot. What's that worth?

$200 billion. How much has it cost to get out of the ground? There are

different costs. In the North Sea the water is relatively shallow. So

it may be just �50 million. If you go into deep water, you may be

looking at �100 million or more. this industry, production costs are

high. But the profits are huge. But finding the oil is only half the

battle. The next problem is getting it out. Crude oil spbtd sitting

under ground in great big lakes. It's far more complex than that.

Imagine that this is our oil down deep under ground. The oil is held

there because there's an impermeable layer of rock it can't

get through or in my case, it's a pop bottle. This is what happens

when you drill through the There you go. The oil comes

flooding out. Oh, but then it stops, unless you pump more pressure down,

like this. I will attach my bike pump. Then if I pump more pressure

in, I get more oil out. What the engineers do is rather than using a

bicycle bump they push water and gas into the rocks to push more of

the oil out. But even using these traditional methods of drilling,

you'll only get about 35% of the oil. The Government reckons

extracting just 1% more would be worth around �13 billion. That is

the challenge facing the country's oil scientists. One idea they've

come up with involves removing salt from sea water and flushing it into

the rock. Low sn olenity water running is better at getting the

crude out because it breaks the rock's ability to hold onto it.

There will be the first world implementation of the flood. About

another 42 million barrels out of the oil field. The industry hope

it's will recover enough oil to meet our demands until 2050. The

Government's more cautious estimate is 2030. One thing is for sure, oil

is a finite resource. When it does run out, we'll have to rely on

alternatives to fuel our world. Well, Rip Off Britain is back on

BBC One to help consumers avoid making costly mistakes and as

always, Angela Rippon, Gloria Hunniford and Julia Somerville are

willing to ask the tough questions on your behalf. We wanted answers

to the problems you've raised. I don't think I have to tell you of

all people that the reputation of bankers in this country is now in

taters. When you go to a party and someone asks what you do, would you

be embarrassed to admit you're a banker? I think it's regretful that

you would think twice about admitting that you were a banker. I

would like to think I'm a banker trying to make a difference and

trying to change across the industry and restore that faith and

trustment Well, ange la, you're not pulling any punches there. We can't

in our programme. I don't think anyone in the country would agree

that the bankers have got to be held to account. Not just bankers.

Doing the programme, we're out every day for four weeks, we've

done 20 programmes that go out 9.15am on BBC One, so there are

about 100 stories, everything from banks who have lost people's money,

prom lems with insurance, dodgy car dealers - you name it we've covered

those stories where people have been ripped off or fobbed off by

companies that really decide actually, no, we're not going to be

nice to you and we're not going to give your money back. So the

reality is, the force is with you. What are the biggest rip offs

you've seen in the new series? There's a lot of before in terms of

energy. It's one of the biggest issues. You can't say well I won't

have any electric or gas this week. And we're going heavy on small

print. We all make mistakes. I wrote this down, for PayPal there

are 36,000 words in the terms and conditions alone. 36,000?! It's

longer than hamlet for the record. You go to the end and you click.

It's just under 20,000 for I choose and Facebook is 11,000. Who will

read all the terms and kbz. -- conditions. One small thing a

couple on holiday, they've saved up for months on the holiday to

Florida. They ended up that they were insured on their policy for

the journey out, and for their holiday, not for the journey back.

When they were diverted to New York and the snowstorm or something like

that, they had to pay all the expenses. Have you to read the

small print. I actually can't read small print any more. You can't

read! If anyone tunes in now, will they think we're the Corrs? You can

do the singing darling. Which are you then? I'm the bloke! Are you

good at explaining Frank? I'm not bad. I went out with an American

and she was so brilliant at complaining. I learned from her. We

were in a restaurants. She complained about someone's food on

another table. She heard the woman saying, this meat's tough. Her

boyfriend said tell them. No, no it's too embarrassing,. She stopped

the waitress, "Excuse me this lady's got tough meat." She should

join us on Rip Off Britain. We complain on behalf of other people.

We check into a hotel. I didn't even bother to take my coat off

because I knew we'd be in three rooms before we settled.

Americans are very good at complaining. Are you surprised with

some of the things that people fall for? Well, in a way, yes. I mean,

if you're well I was going to say stupid enough, perhaps I shouldn't,

if you're gullible enough to pack all your jewellery into an envelope

and send it through the post to someone who says they may give you

money for it, I think that is perhaps a little bit on the stupid

side. But on the other hand, there's no doubt about the fact

that people are becoming incredibly cunning. We've had stories of

people being rung up pretending to be your bank, telling you that

somebody's using your credit card, persuading the person to part with

the credit card, persuading them to part with their PIN number, sending

a courier round, telling the person to ring the number on the back of

the card, keeping the line open without the person knowing and

making the person think it's all completely right. There really are

people out there... We had one of them the other day. My wife was on

the line and I heard her say, look I don't know who you are, I'm not

giving you my details right now?. That's the value of consume

prorgraems. What we do through the scam plz -- consumer programmes,

what we do is it gives people at home because our viewers identify

with the people on the programme. It's warning people of the rip offs

out there. More than, that we entertain, it's telly, but we

empower people. We inform them about how they can actually stand

up for their rights and either not get into those difficulties in the

first place or know how they can get out of it. Why the programme is

so successful is that they are genuine stories from viewers. It's

real people, real stories, real results. That's why it works. We

don't rip it from a newspaper report or something. 23,000 e-mails

after the last series. I can't even tell you how many... 20,000 from

Nigeria! LAUGHTER

Any company or any individual with half a brain is not going to mess

with you three. The new series of Rip Off Britain continues tomorrow

at 9.15am on BBC One. Now, Frank, loads and loads of arguments

obviously coming from our viewers. Speaking of arguments, we think

we've found somebody who knows how to argue incredibly well. It's Anne

Robinson. She's joining us live from the watchdog studio. What's

the biggest argument you can remember getting into over

something very small? I can't remember any argument with anybody.

Honestly! I think misguidedly people think I'm going to be a bit

difficult or shout at them or be unpleasant. So I genuinely never

get into arguments. Whoever said you know you have to have that

expression of don't mess with me, that's absolutely right. Hopefully

you'll be winning plenty of arguments on behalf of the watchdog

viewers. We hear that you need the help of the One Show viewers

tonight. Yes indeed I do. Listen out, it's calling all BMW owners,

this is a tale you shouldn't miss because thieves can get into your

car, it's like a walk in the park. It's now so easy to get hold of a

piece of equipment from the internet that bypasses the BMW's

security system and your car can be driven off within seconds, no need

for your key. It's happening up and down the country. BMW have known

about it for nearly a year, but we can't find a single owner who's

been warned. It sounds extraordinary this case. Has there

been many of these thefts? There's been enough thefts for police in

the Midlands and also in London to be now alerting owners to take

extra precautions. But to get the exact figure we want viewers

watching The One Show now to help. If any of you have a BMW that's

been stolen in the last year, please send us an e-mail before we

go on air, in about 20 minutes. The address is on the screen now.

Thanks guys. Thank you. There are you, do as Ann asks. Now then...

you had an argument with Ann, she'd say "That's it, I'm leaving.

Goodbye." Frank has a new sitcom starting tonight all about arguing

couples. He's going to settle long running arguments once and for all.

We have a couple in the studio. Yes. Matt is going to intervues you to

them. This is Antony and Tia. We said hello earlier today. You're

kind to come along tonight. This is all about mess. Start with you. Why

is Antony so bad? He just keeps his trainers all over the flat and

every time when I get up or go somewhere I'm always tripping over

them and he's got a place for them under the stairs, but no he doesn't

use it. When I open it I get a whoof of smelly feet. It's the

trainer thing. Do you feel like she stitches you up slightly by

creating a space under the stairs? I don't think it's true actually.

My shoes don't smell that bad. Yeah I think it is a bit of a stitch up.

I like to have them displayed. When people come round... Look at the

trainers? I'm a collector you see. Right. I have quite a few pairs.

That would make sense why people would want to lock at your shoes.

Why not. This is going on and on. When he picks his toenails, his

clippings they make a horrible noise and go everywhere. It's

interesting Frank because toenails are included in the second series.

Yes, they have caused many an argument. Once you clip a toenail

there's no telling where it can ends un. I sometimes hand out

goggles. People are having their tea. I'm sorry. They're talking

about sweaty trainers. These trainers are incubating under the

stairs. It's not good. They need some air. Whose side are you on?

Who wins? I think that this man is a collector and he has to have

somewhere to keep his collection. I don't imagine for a second that he

discovered trainers after their relationship, so she knew what she

was letting herself in for. Fair enough. A sporting victory. Loads

of them have come in. Saffron says "We were playing aye spy on the

beach, can you win with a word tide because I say you kpbtd because you

can't actually see the tide but my husband said you can." You can see

the tide can't you. That's what the frothy stuff is that hits the beach.

I would have thought soment Frank says so, that's it. Can I put

my judging stuff on. The full works. Now people will tune in and think

Peter string fellow is on. If you cut a sandwich in half, how many

sandwiches do you have. Men say one, I say two. Party sandwiches small

triangles, surely each is a separate sandwich? No every small

piece of bread that leaves is a sandwich in itself. If you cut a

piece of bread into eight, that's eight sandwiches. This evening

we've been seeing how our Olympic heroes cope being take be out of

their comfort zone. How are they Lucy is doing all right, they all

spent a bit of time out of the water, but I am proud of her, she

is really pushing hard and doing all right. I am going to have to

encourage her. Come on, sweetheart, push, push! Come on, Lucy! That is

a couple always pick up. I would quite like to say this throughout

there, you look brilliant. I fit in Oh, Classic! Time to continue the

story from last night of a retired British teacher who travelled to

India to meet the children she has been teaching from her home near

Oldham through the wonders of the internet.

Jackie Barrow is a teacher whose pupils' lives so far away that they

have never even met. -- whose pupils live. That is about to

change. After a ten-hour flight, she has finally landed in India for

the first time, on her way to the city of Pune, a four hour train

journey from Mumbai. You have got this fantastic scenery in the

distance. We have come pass some rural parts with paddy fields, it

looks like something out of a When I am at home, obviously it is

there has to imagine outside the little room that they Skype me from.

I certainly have not seen where the children live, so it is being able

to put it into that wider context, It is monsoon season here in Pune,

a booming city of 4 million people, renowned for its colleges and

universities and a beacon for the After a good night's sleep and

breakfast Indian-style, Jackie has had the perfect start to an

exciting day ahead. We are actually on our way to meet the children, so

we are driving through the streets of Pune. When I first got involved

in the project, if I had said what would have been the most exciting

thing to do ever, it would have been to come out and meet the

children that High Speed 2 over Skype. With over 400 million

children living in India, the education system is coming under

increasing strain. 7 million children do not attend school at

all. But a helping hand comes from schools like this one, where

Jackie's group come to get online. We are going to meet face to face,

which is really strange! I do not quite know what they are going to

make of it, and I am feeling very Just that first walking in, I was

not too sure how they were going to react, but that only lasted for a

very short time, I felt at ease with them and able to enjoy it.

Let's check I know everybody's name. What is your name? Thank you! You

Let's swim! What was this one? Chickens! I have presence for you.

-- presents. That was really fantastic, I enjoyed it so much. I

did not remember, I don't think, how much I enjoyed interacting with

children. Can you help me to tell the story? One day, he went out in

It was just great to be in the same room with them and be able to pick

up on things that they had said very easily, which is hard to do on

Skype. I really enjoyed it. leader single-handedly runs the

Granny Club project for the whole of India, and the two have become

close personal friends. The way they alter Muttley responded, it

was the sense of being able to do this and not being scolded. --

ultimately. Pretending I am a good kicking somebody! The other thing

that I noticed was that they were trying very hard not to imitate the

words but also the accent. It will make a huge difference when I speak

to them next time on Skype that I have actually met them. I will feel

much more able to interpret how much they are understanding and how

they are reacting to something. first session in India has been a

But the next part of Jackie's trip will be much more challenging. She

is going to visit some of the children's homes. To take a 12-

year-old girl out of school, from a child's point of view, it is so

wrong that she should have no access to education.

The final part of Jackie's journey will be on tomorrow's show.

have been out to Kenya, you have taught there. Yes, we made a film,

and I taught English in a school for a day, and in fact I just came

back on Monday, we have made another trip, so I went back to the

school again. Did you see a difference? Yes, and the lovely

thing... Their I am! The thing I discovered was that these children

are like sponges, they cannot wait to have that information, the

English language, because they know that being able to speak good

English and getting a good education, it is their way out of

living in the slum, it is their way out to fulfil their ambitions.

a great idea. So rewarding, I cannot tell you. Earlier we saw

Ainsley Harriott trying to create a thank you feast for a very brave

man from Cheshire. Even though he is having some trouble with his

kitchen, Ainsley and the locals are determined to make it a meal to

remember. Peter Dodd is a hero who stepped in

to protect an elderly customer who was being threatened by thieves,

wielding machetes during a raid on his post office. Put your card in...

He has been busy in the post office all day and does not have a clue

what is going on in the pub up the road. To thank him for his bravery,

we are organising a big feast, and outdoor extravaganza with all his

friends invited. I have not been able to do it without the support

from the Cheshire community, they have come up with the most

fantastic ingredients, thank you! It has been seat-of-the-pants stuff

so far. We lost the gas and water, because of the building works.

Luckily, we get reconnected. My appeal on the radio for supplies of

food has worked better than I expected. Supplies just keep on

arriving. What have we got here? range of Japanese. Beautiful!

You're an absolute diamond. I will tell you what I have got here, a

beautiful piece of pork, thermometer in mayor now, cooking

fantastic. When he sees this, look at that! With the help of my

adopted kitchen staff, the feast is coming together brilliantly, the

asparagus and tomatoes have been turned into wonderful salads, and

the meat has been prepared to perfection. All right, a bit of a

hurry now, getting everything done. Less than an hour to go, they still

an awful lot of work to do in the marquee. BASSA there is still. We

have managed to keep the party a secret so far, but it has been

welcome news to Margaret, who has rarely left home since the post

office raid. I have not been out, I am just terrified. I heard about

his party, and I thought, well, I would like to be there, because he

is the person that saved me, As our brass band arrives, I am

told our guest of honour is on the way. He thinks we are just having a

quiet meal together to talk about his bravery in the post office.

Little does he know! Nice to meet you. How are you doing? I have been

waiting all day for this. Boy, is the end for a surprise! Peter, all

of this is for you. Come on, let's I give you your hero, Peter Dodd,

He says to me, I am just a postmaster, he is more than that,

Margaret, you might not have been I think he is a very important role

model within the village, with him being the postmaster, he knows

everybody and everybody knows him, and what he did was fantastic.

is an amazing man, a good example of what is good about our community,

one of these people that is always doing things for other people, they

tend to not expect people to do things for them. There we are, a

nice bit of crackling. And so on were the feast, and due to his

unselfish nature, Peter insists everyone else is served first. Are

you going to have a bit of this? At last, time to give him his well-

earned feet. Oh, lovely! It was a special moment. I have never been

so gobsmacked in my life! They said she will not talk to anybody or go

out, but she is having a good time. It has been one of those days that

has been full of drama, a bit of panic, but all of us together, we

might just have pulled it off. Brilliant. Isn't that lovely? What

a lovely man. Time to go back to the racing in St Mawes now, how is

the race going? I am trying not to laugh, because to begin with Lizzie

was all smiles, but now all I can see his teeth. She is doing quite

well, in about six, only five votes behind her. I think she has done

very well. If I'm honest, the oar has come out of the water a few

times, but she is not disgracing herself. My only worry is that if

she does not hurry up, we will run out of light and petrol, and I have

his say, it has been emotional, and I have got my jacket on specially.

The winner has finished, she has done so well. How far has she got

to go? She is in sixth position, six out of 11 boats, she has done

very well indeed. She will be moaning all night that their arms

or saw, but she has done the One Show proud. Brilliant, yes, and

hopefully she will finish while we are on air. We will let you know.

What is your biggest sporting achievement? This will not take

long. I learned to swim the earlier in the year, and for me that was an

enormous achievement. I did it for Sport Relief. That is me, looking

good! Yes, and I swam a length and got a proper certificate and

everything. I have been frightened of water and my whole life. Are you

a regular swimmer now? I have not taken my son yet. He has got to

have jams or something like that. You are only just out of arm bands

yourself. You can still see the lines. I'm going to take him, I did

not want to be a dad who could not swim. At least you will stay in the

shallow end for a while. It is brilliant, just floating about. I

have no experience of weightlessness, it is great,

because I was not involved in the space race. There was a

misunderstanding. You have got a special coming up as well. Yes, we

are anxious for everyone to know about this special week-long series

later in the air about holidays, and we have not made it yet, and we

are hoping that anybody who has horror stories about their holidays,

travel agents, airlines, hotels full of cockroaches, whatever it is.

Let us know. Everybody has got one. Can I just so quickly that in this

year alone we have managed to pay back half a million pounds to

people? Ordinary they would not have got that back, fighting

insurance companies. I think that is pretty good. Thank you for

coming along, all the very best with the series, tonight on Radio 4