12/09/2012 The One Show


Matt and Alex are joined by Frank Skinner and Rip Off Britain's Gloria Hunniford, Angela Rippon and Julia Somerville. Local rowers battle Team GB's medal winners live in Cornwall.

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Hello and welcome to a Wednesday One Show with Matt Baker And Alex


Jones. Tonight we have a show of winners. Our women did well at the


Olympics. We found a Cornish crew who think they can beat them on


their local waters. It's a challenge. We're catching up with a


teacher from Oldham who finally meets her pupils for the first time


in India. It's a lovely story. There's three women who have won


countless victories for victims of Rip Off Britain, ange la, Gloria


and Julia are here tonight. APPLAUSE


And, we have the man who since winning best comedian at the


Edinburgh Fringe in 1991 has gone from king of the lads to an older


dad. It's Frank Skinner. APPLAUSE


Good to see you. Thank you. Thank you for coming in. We have to start,


I mean obviously there's going to be lots of people in Liverpool


today on your love of football, who amongst real anger are going to


feel like they have won a battle today with the news of the


Hillsborough case. There won't be anyone punching the air. It's


incredible that those people have stuck with that campaign and


finally got an apology from the Prime Minister and complete


vindication for the Liverpool fans, because even as a massive football


lover, it's steadily been filtered into our mind that it was a lot of


drinken people without tickets and it was just rubbish. That was


invented. Anyone who is part of their campaign and who has


supported their campaign, it's quite emotional, should be proud.


It's a first class example of people power. I did a benefit gig


up in Anfield for it. I met some of the families and stuff. It's a


triumph that's come from love. They were determined that they were


going to get what was right for those people. Brilliant. It's been


a long time coming. More from franc later on, of course. First, none of


us know how exactly how we'd react in an emergency situation. When the


moment came for Peter Dodd from Cheshire, he did himself proud.


Chef Ainsley Harriott webt to meet him and helped his local community


to serve up a special thank you. It's not often that you meet a hero,


someone that goes the extra mile. Today, I'm going to do just that.


Hopefully with a little help from my friends, I'm going to create a


feast for him that he'll remember for the rest of his life. Peter


Dodd runs the Post Office in Glazebrook Cheshire. Last October


he was serving his friend 81-year- old Margaret Bloor who two men came


in carrying machetes. What happened next was the stuff of nightmares.


Two raiders grabbed Margaret round the throat. They through the card


rack. It was just a blur, just all happened so quick. I managed to get


them out of the shop, hit the alarms and get onto the police.


Well I was terrified because I didn't know what was going to


happen to me. Then Peter had come to save me. I don't think I'd have


been here today if he hadn't have done what he did. The robbers


eventually fled with nearly �3,000 in cash. Peter had part of his


finger hacked off in the struggle. I'm just an ordinary guy doing what


needed to be done at the time to save Margaret. What Peter doesn't


know is that The One Show has set me a really ambitious task - we


want to thank Peter for his act of Brave New Worldery. By doing that


it means a big -- act of bravery. By doing that it means a banquet.


At 6pm the local community will turn up. The weather and time, hmm,


they're already against me. I need the support of local suppliers to


come up with the ingredients. First BBC Radio Manchester. It's 7.30am.


We've made sure Peter isn't listening. He's busy in the shop. I


appeal for Cheshire grub on the breakfast show. Please phone in, if


you have local cider, chutney, cheese, fish, meat, anything at all,


let me know. Whatever you give me I'll do my best to use all the


produce. Have you not got a menu? I've got nothing mate. I've got 50


people coming. Cheshire I love you, help me! By 8am suppliers are


ringing, so moved by Peter's story they're ready to hand over their


produce. That would be brilliant, get some of your pop corn. Sausages


or burgers. You saying you'd give me �100 worth of meat is fantastic.


You're coming up with a wonderful brass band, that's brilliant. Time


to gather up all the produce that's been pledged. First is franc's


butcher shop. This is a lovely free range loin of pork. Please look


after it. There you go. That is superb. Even the local GP chips in


with cabbages and herbs from the surgery. I caught the news as I was


coming in and it was Peter's name. You know him? Yeah. He's a lovely


chap. If anybody deserves it Peter does. Thanks, doc. And to add to


the loin of pork I got from franc, another butcher has offered me more


meat. What have we got? We've got three selections of burgers, pork


and am, minty lamb, peppered steak, sausages you name it. Give me a hug.


It's for the barbeque. Thank you. The people of Cheshire have been so


generous. I think I have enough meat to feed the crowd. At the


local farm shop they've pulled out all the stops to provide our veg.


These are magnificent. We have lettuce, asparagus. Is that good


enough for you? Superb. Thank you. Peter has no idea what's going on.


He thinks I'm here toint view him about his bravery and that he'll be


meeting me alone. Little does he know the whole community will be


here to surprise him. I've got enough food, but the forecast,


torrential rain, threatens to ruin the party. Back at the Black Swan,


Stewart the landlord has worse news. We lost the gas and the water in


the building works that's happening at the moment, this morning. Thanks.


I'm going back to the kitchen. I have no choice but to soldier on


and hope the pub's utilities get fixed in time. In the kitchen it's


time to tell the boys what I'm planning to do with these wonderful


ingredients. Fantastic menu. We're starting with that roast loin of


pork, sausages, burgers, chicken wings, salad. For dessert it's


meringue with cream cheese, strawberries and blewries --


blueberries. I've got to get on. Poor Ainslie. He's got his work cut


out. On the theme of surprises, we mentioned that you've recently


become a dad. Was Buzz planned? Yeah, he was planned. We were doing


that thing, not that I want to expose my private life, we were


doing that thing "It's Wednesday, we need to have sex" that kind of


thing. It's great. Since he's been born, we don't have that


conversation. It's a great name. I love the name Buzz. Do you, I took


a bit of stick. It's quite a se leb name. You think? Whra would a


younger Franc have made of the name? I was a child of the space


race. Because the second man on the moon was Buzz Aldrin that's where


it came from. My girlfriend suggested it. I couldn't believe my


luck. I think she was basing it on Buzz Lightyear.


LAUGHTER No! She isn't.


I'm in a position I need to say her age, but then I'll be in more


trouble. She's much older - no, not much, but a lot. She suggested it.


We kind of referred to that thing which was in her belly as Buzz. We


called him that so much, it seemed odd to call him anything else.


that theme of Buzz Aldrin, this is for him. We have an -- we have


bought him a -- an acre of the moon. Brilliant. Do you have building


rights? I don't think so. That's so lovely. It will go lovely in all


the photos of me. As well as having a brand new baby, you've written


the second series of your Radio 4 comedy Don't Start, which does


start tonight. Against my express command it does start tonight.


based on two characters called Neil and Kim. They bicker over lots of


things. It's a couple. Every episode is one big argument. It's a


show I've been researching for about 35 years. Did you use your


own stuff? Yes some of them are direct lifts. There's a thing


tonight where she brings up the fact that when they were in


Brighton, in their early days, he accused of her trying to poison him.


And exactly, that's what happened with me and my girlfriend Kath. I


got ill and we were new. You know, whenever you go out with someone


the first three weeks you wonder if they might be a poisoner. I brought


it up. I said, "Can I ask you a serious question, I feel we know


each other now. Are you trying to poison me?" She took against me for


about it. We had blood tests and lie detector... I meant it at the


time. She still brings it up. She has a fantastic memory for


arguments. She can, we can have an argument and I think I've got away


with it and it's over. What she's done is she book marks it and three


days later she'll' say, "By the way on the subject of that..." Wand


we're off again. It's cleverly written Azazi the topic progresses


other arguments sprout off it. Occasionally we have greatest hits


arguments where we bring up all our favourites into one spectacular,


it's like a gig you know. You want to do new stuff but you want a few


old favourites as well. Have you to file arguments. It's what we girls


do. If you have arguments you want franc to give a verdict on, e. Maim


us now. We'll have both sides of the argument. This year it's the


25th an verse since your first stand-up gig. I thought you were


going to say since my first argument! Yes on December 9, I will


have been a comedian for 25 years, which is brilliant. Does it feel


like 25 years? Some Giggs have felt like 25 years in themselves. It


feels brilliant. I tried proper work and I never took to it. I'll


be honest with you. It's the best job ever. What did you try for


proper work? I did, oh, I worked in factories. I had a job smashing up


furniture with a sledgehammer. That wasn't a bad job that. When an end


of line furniture thing they didn't want it to go to market, I what


alone in a room and I smashed it up and put it in a furnace. That


sounds brilliant. These days young comedians cite you as their


inspiration. What advice do you give to the new guys on the block?


Don't be too funny. I always, I mean I do think it's basically


about - I asked an American comedian when I started out and his


advice was "never leave your wallet in the dressingroom". I've got it


with me now. There's very trustworthy people here. Even so, I


think it's a good thing. I just think it's about working at it and


getting hours on stage. Some people think they can just turn up and be


as funny as with their mates but it takes a while to get there. It's


hard, when you have all that experience, to say to people this


is how you do it. I don't really do that. But one woman said to me,


"You know you've been an inspiration to me. I remember


watching you absolutely die at the royal command performance. Whenever


I die I always think of that. "I found that very moving. That's


absolutely true. Now, after our female rowing team did so well at


the Olympics, you'd have forgiven them for taking the rest of the


year off. But when a group of Cornish rowers threw down the


gauntlet for a race, they couldn't say no. Lucy Siegle is there to see


say no. Lucy Siegle is there to see what they've let themselves in for.


These are the boats that our Olympic Coxless pair rowers are


used to. Today, however, they have to deal with this, a bigger boat


and longer oars. With a clutch of Olympic medals you would think that


British rowers have little left to prove. But here in squall, a


challenge has been set that's irresistible to their competitive


It is the professional's versus the fixed CTC rowers. This local boat


is made of Elmet and packed full of history. Andy is the curator of


boats at the National Maritime Museum here in Cornwall. Originally,


Giggs were working boats, they were used to take pilots out to the


ships coming at the Channel. A lot of them competed amongst themselves


in races, because the idea of getting out to the ship first for


business meant that you got the business first and you made the


money. From that, the sport evolved naturally, so the fastest boat got


the work first. As engines and steam came along, the popularity


tended to dwindle, because it tended to be slower, the Rolling


boat, so they were left behind by technology. Around 100 clubs around


the globe keeps the competitive heritage alive, and the best are


all in Cornwall. Milly Edwards are the Roseland Club is a local racing


legend and an authority on the sport. What qualities do you need?


Well, apart from being fit and strong, really a typical row would


be tall with good believers, but if you look at the shape of the boat,


smaller people can go in the smaller bit. So it is about


teamwork. It is all about teamwork, you will find out in a minute.


he reckons anyone can do it. Hold it like Karen is. Is it hard on the


muscles? Yes! So a few pointers and here I go.


Focus on the blade. That is good. It has got to be quick, but get


It will be some time before I am taking them on, but the local


team's confidence is running high. We won the championships at the


weekend, and we are bringing that through tomorrow night to take them


on. So I have had a go, it is quite difficult, are the Olympians going


to be able to cope? It is completely different, they slide,


whereas we go back. They are used to two paddles, so they need to get


used to just having one. Karen is used to it, they are the best crew


Well, the day's action is well under way, and this is a man is no


stranger to racing and the track, Iwan Thomas. Have you been catching


any crowds today? Not yet, there is plenty of time for that, but it has


been a great day here, another great day, and look at all these


people who have turned out to support our rowers. Amazing. Now, I


am a woman of the people, and tonight, because of that, I am on


the side of the amateurs. I love the public, but I have to be


backing the Olympians today, they have had a great summer. This was


going to be really tough of the girls, no carbon-fibre inside, a


big heavy boats, let's see how they The Falmouth crew, straight in


there, amazing technique, they are used to the waters. Look at the


lead they have got. I cannot make excuses for the Olympians, these


guys are amazing! He is clear water, amazing. What a win, they go,


celebrating. That is the salute. Worthy winners. I knew they would


win. They are all here with us now, so let's find out what happened.


are come to start with our Olympians, Helen, were you


embarrassed? That was quite hard. We are definitely not embarrassed,


because these guys are amazing, and it is very different to what we do


every day. Bideford. But not quite well enough, could you go even


faster? We might have been able to in a race boat, but we gave them a


fair chance. I am so proud. I am proud of the locals as well, but I


know what it is like our season, you're not in training, was down to


too much partying? Controversial! have been on a bread and water diet


since the Olympics, I cannot speak for my crew mates, but I have just


been contemplating life. We have been partying for six weeks, we are


in no shape at all! We are going to switch things up. There is an


important race to come, the Andy Ince wants to basque in their


individual glory, their last race of the year, so each of them is


going to captain a boat, and they will get to choose from this motley


crew. Look at all the talent, who Boat! No takers, no takers, I will


try to get into a team anyway. Bath good luck! It has got to be


the end Indians, surely. That was brilliant comedy, looking in the


other direction. It is like when it La dog off. -- when you tell a dog


off. I have had a go at that on Countryfile, it is hard. If you do


not teed up with the rhythm, it smacks you back in the stomach.


This is how we treat our heroes! You have at the open-top bus, now


come and get beaten up in Cornwall. Speaking of heroes, the feel-good


factor from the Paralympic Games is still very much in the air, but the


role played by one of the sponsors, Atos, continues to cause


controversy. Atos runs tests for the government on whether people


qualify for benefits. Many are not happy with the results, as Declan


Law has found out. We spend �13 billion per year on


benefits for people who are unable to work because of disability or


health issues. Now the government is replacing the old benefit with a


new allowance. They say the aim is to find out if some recipients can


actually do some sort of work and come off benefits. French company


Atos have been paid �100 million per year to test everyone who


claimed for benefits to see whether they deserved to continue receiving


it. The test is called the work capability assessment. Since its


introduction, there has been growing anger against the


assessment, with many sick and disabled people saying it is


pushing them to the brink. I first met 59-year-old Chris earlier this


summer, when filming for Panorama. It was immediately obvious that he


was not a well man. Can we stop for a minute? He worked for nearly 40


years, first in the steel industry, and then as a lorry driver. In 2009,


he became seriously ill with emphysema, to the point where his


wife was told to prepare for the worst. He pulled through, but his


health is seriously affected. cannot walk far, 50 metres before I


have to stop. I have to lean against something, catch my breath.


Chris had his first work capability assessment in 2009. He was declared


unfit for work and began claiming employment support allowance. But


following a second assessment, he was declared fit for work and his


benefit was stopped. He appealed the decision and went to a tribunal.


He won his case and his benefits were reinstated. However, just


seven months after that successful appeal, he was called back for yet


another assessment. We secretly Good to see you again. How are you?


This morning, the results of that assessment have arrived. We cannot


pay your employment and support an ounce from the 30th August 2012.


says here because, after attending a medical assessment, it has been


decided that you do not have any limited capability for work, which


means you are fit for work. Yes. What is your reaction to that?


I am shocked. It is just unbelievable, especially when he


has had doctors' notes and consultant's notes to prove that he


is definitely not fit for work. When I won my tribunal, I thought


that would have been hit. Apparently it is not. You have to


go for these medical assessments every year. But Chris's case is not


unique. Each year there are in the region of 180,000 appeals, nearly


40% of which are successful. Some think this number will only


continue to rise. How big an issue is this for you at the moment?


is a huge issue, our number one issue. Your number one issue?


a cost to the public purse, it distress and hardship for the


clients, and for an overstretched Citizens Advice Bureau, it is more


work. And now Atos as won a further �400 million contract to carry out


assessments for a new benefit set to replace disability living


allowance from 2013. This has outraged disability groups, who


have been demonstrating during the Paralympic Games. Ironically, one


of the main sponsors of the Games was Atos. People are really angry


and afraid about the new DNA assessments that will happen


through Atos, because we have seen what has happened already with the


incapacity benefit, which has now become the Employment Support


Allowance. It has been quite horrific. Those of us were not been


assessed already are not looking forward to it happening now, we are


afraid, we are angry, and to be honest we are disgusted that it is


happening at all. People who are on Disability living Allowance and now


facing an anxious wait to see how the new assessments will play out


for them. For Chris, it is back to the Citizens Advice, back to the


appeals process, and back to a whole lot more distress.


Well, Ade Adepitan is here, good job on the Paralympics. Did you


enjoy it? It was amazing, I am feeling a little bit down now,


because I have come back from the high, I wish it could go on forever,


it was awesome. So much talking, slightly croaky and the boys!


parties to celebrate as well. is as close as I will ever get to


being Clare Balding. She is coming in next week! I am not going to say


anything to that. First-half, tell us what Atos and the government


have been saying today. Atos is keen to stress that while it


carries out the tests, it is the Department of Work and Pensions


which makes the decisions. The DWP, when asked, they said reassessments


were important to prevent claimants being written off. The tests have


been improved in the last two years. For all of those who were not sure


about these benefits, what difference do they make to the


lives of people? Disability living allowance is for people with


impairments or disability, to cover their care component and mobility


costs as well. It is not about whether they are in work or not. It


helps for travel costs, you know, because not everyone can get on a


bus for a train, and it helps for the care component, for people with


specific care needs. Is it right to say that some of the athletes who


competed in the Paralympics might not have got there without the


living allowance? It is difficult, because speaking from my point of


view, when I was trying to get into the team, playing for my local team,


it was quite far away, and the national team was far away, I could


not get on to a bus or train with my equipment, so to have a car was


absolutely essential. So yes, I am sure there are athletes who would


say it would have drastically affected their ability to get into


the Paralympics. The Paralympians have been branded a superhuman,


there will be people who are concerned with disabilities, people


might think they are capable of doing things that they are actually


not. People think that because we call an superhumans, they can fly


and stuff like that. They will have got the wrong idea, the reason we


called them that is because there archives will have got serious


impairments who are doing amazing things. But they are very specific


things, they are things on the basketball court or on track and


field. But they still need help with travel expenses, and also with


care needs, because it is the fact that living as a disabled person


can cost more. Thank you very much. The British Gas and oil industry


has recently said it is looking for 120,000 new workers to realise its


full potential. A lot of that potential is buried under places


like the North Sea, and Marty Jopson has been to look at the


latest tools used to find and This is crude oil. You'd think it


would be thick and gloopy. But it's often thin and runy. It's a


precious commodity made from the most basic of sea plants and


creatures, plankton. Plankton absorbs carbon dioxide, dies and


begins breaking down. Some are buried under layers of saidiment


where they are locked in a partially decomposed state. Over


millions of years the heat and pressure caused by layers of


saidiment above them forces liquids and gases out of the remains to be


trapped in the pours in the rock. It may have taken thousands of


millions of years in the making, but it's a finite resource and all


over the world, the race is on to find new areas of oil. I'm joining


a crew of a seismic exploration ship off the coast of Norway.


Before they can drill for oil they have to pin point exactly where it


is. That's what they're doing right now. They use special guns to fire


high pressure air bubbles into the water deep into the sea. They


generate low frequency sound waves which bounce back as echoes. Just


like taking a massive ultra-sound of the rock structure. The only


evidence on board of what's happening below is a slight shudder


and bubbles breaking the water's surface. From this data, they make


images, which are then sold to speculating oil companies. Geophys


sift Matt shows me one snapshot that turned out to be very


lucrative. This is a vertical seismic image under the North Sea.


What are you looking for? These cross cutting reflections. So this


is oil here? This is is. How much? About two billion barrels.


billion barrels of oil - wow! That's a lot. What's that worth?


$200 billion. How much has it cost to get out of the ground? There are


different costs. In the North Sea the water is relatively shallow. So


it may be just �50 million. If you go into deep water, you may be


looking at �100 million or more. this industry, production costs are


high. But the profits are huge. But finding the oil is only half the


battle. The next problem is getting it out. Crude oil spbtd sitting


under ground in great big lakes. It's far more complex than that.


Imagine that this is our oil down deep under ground. The oil is held


there because there's an impermeable layer of rock it can't


get through or in my case, it's a pop bottle. This is what happens


when you drill through the There you go. The oil comes


flooding out. Oh, but then it stops, unless you pump more pressure down,


like this. I will attach my bike pump. Then if I pump more pressure


in, I get more oil out. What the engineers do is rather than using a


bicycle bump they push water and gas into the rocks to push more of


the oil out. But even using these traditional methods of drilling,


you'll only get about 35% of the oil. The Government reckons


extracting just 1% more would be worth around �13 billion. That is


the challenge facing the country's oil scientists. One idea they've


come up with involves removing salt from sea water and flushing it into


the rock. Low sn olenity water running is better at getting the


crude out because it breaks the rock's ability to hold onto it.


There will be the first world implementation of the flood. About


another 42 million barrels out of the oil field. The industry hope


it's will recover enough oil to meet our demands until 2050. The


Government's more cautious estimate is 2030. One thing is for sure, oil


is a finite resource. When it does run out, we'll have to rely on


alternatives to fuel our world. Well, Rip Off Britain is back on


BBC One to help consumers avoid making costly mistakes and as


always, Angela Rippon, Gloria Hunniford and Julia Somerville are


willing to ask the tough questions on your behalf. We wanted answers


to the problems you've raised. I don't think I have to tell you of


all people that the reputation of bankers in this country is now in


taters. When you go to a party and someone asks what you do, would you


be embarrassed to admit you're a banker? I think it's regretful that


you would think twice about admitting that you were a banker. I


would like to think I'm a banker trying to make a difference and


trying to change across the industry and restore that faith and


trustment Well, ange la, you're not pulling any punches there. We can't


in our programme. I don't think anyone in the country would agree


that the bankers have got to be held to account. Not just bankers.


Doing the programme, we're out every day for four weeks, we've


done 20 programmes that go out 9.15am on BBC One, so there are


about 100 stories, everything from banks who have lost people's money,


prom lems with insurance, dodgy car dealers - you name it we've covered


those stories where people have been ripped off or fobbed off by


companies that really decide actually, no, we're not going to be


nice to you and we're not going to give your money back. So the


reality is, the force is with you. What are the biggest rip offs


you've seen in the new series? There's a lot of before in terms of


energy. It's one of the biggest issues. You can't say well I won't


have any electric or gas this week. And we're going heavy on small


print. We all make mistakes. I wrote this down, for PayPal there


are 36,000 words in the terms and conditions alone. 36,000?! It's


longer than hamlet for the record. You go to the end and you click.


It's just under 20,000 for I choose and Facebook is 11,000. Who will


read all the terms and kbz. -- conditions. One small thing a


couple on holiday, they've saved up for months on the holiday to


Florida. They ended up that they were insured on their policy for


the journey out, and for their holiday, not for the journey back.


When they were diverted to New York and the snowstorm or something like


that, they had to pay all the expenses. Have you to read the


small print. I actually can't read small print any more. You can't


read! If anyone tunes in now, will they think we're the Corrs? You can


do the singing darling. Which are you then? I'm the bloke! Are you


good at explaining Frank? I'm not bad. I went out with an American


and she was so brilliant at complaining. I learned from her. We


were in a restaurants. She complained about someone's food on


another table. She heard the woman saying, this meat's tough. Her


boyfriend said tell them. No, no it's too embarrassing,. She stopped


the waitress, "Excuse me this lady's got tough meat." She should


join us on Rip Off Britain. We complain on behalf of other people.


We check into a hotel. I didn't even bother to take my coat off


because I knew we'd be in three rooms before we settled.


Americans are very good at complaining. Are you surprised with


some of the things that people fall for? Well, in a way, yes. I mean,


if you're well I was going to say stupid enough, perhaps I shouldn't,


if you're gullible enough to pack all your jewellery into an envelope


and send it through the post to someone who says they may give you


money for it, I think that is perhaps a little bit on the stupid


side. But on the other hand, there's no doubt about the fact


that people are becoming incredibly cunning. We've had stories of


people being rung up pretending to be your bank, telling you that


somebody's using your credit card, persuading the person to part with


the credit card, persuading them to part with their PIN number, sending


a courier round, telling the person to ring the number on the back of


the card, keeping the line open without the person knowing and


making the person think it's all completely right. There really are


people out there... We had one of them the other day. My wife was on


the line and I heard her say, look I don't know who you are, I'm not


giving you my details right now?. That's the value of consume


prorgraems. What we do through the scam plz -- consumer programmes,


what we do is it gives people at home because our viewers identify


with the people on the programme. It's warning people of the rip offs


out there. More than, that we entertain, it's telly, but we


empower people. We inform them about how they can actually stand


up for their rights and either not get into those difficulties in the


first place or know how they can get out of it. Why the programme is


so successful is that they are genuine stories from viewers. It's


real people, real stories, real results. That's why it works. We


don't rip it from a newspaper report or something. 23,000 e-mails


after the last series. I can't even tell you how many... 20,000 from




Any company or any individual with half a brain is not going to mess


with you three. The new series of Rip Off Britain continues tomorrow


at 9.15am on BBC One. Now, Frank, loads and loads of arguments


obviously coming from our viewers. Speaking of arguments, we think


we've found somebody who knows how to argue incredibly well. It's Anne


Robinson. She's joining us live from the watchdog studio. What's


the biggest argument you can remember getting into over


something very small? I can't remember any argument with anybody.


Honestly! I think misguidedly people think I'm going to be a bit


difficult or shout at them or be unpleasant. So I genuinely never


get into arguments. Whoever said you know you have to have that


expression of don't mess with me, that's absolutely right. Hopefully


you'll be winning plenty of arguments on behalf of the watchdog


viewers. We hear that you need the help of the One Show viewers


tonight. Yes indeed I do. Listen out, it's calling all BMW owners,


this is a tale you shouldn't miss because thieves can get into your


car, it's like a walk in the park. It's now so easy to get hold of a


piece of equipment from the internet that bypasses the BMW's


security system and your car can be driven off within seconds, no need


for your key. It's happening up and down the country. BMW have known


about it for nearly a year, but we can't find a single owner who's


been warned. It sounds extraordinary this case. Has there


been many of these thefts? There's been enough thefts for police in


the Midlands and also in London to be now alerting owners to take


extra precautions. But to get the exact figure we want viewers


watching The One Show now to help. If any of you have a BMW that's


been stolen in the last year, please send us an e-mail before we


go on air, in about 20 minutes. The address is on the screen now.


Thanks guys. Thank you. There are you, do as Ann asks. Now then...


you had an argument with Ann, she'd say "That's it, I'm leaving.


Goodbye." Frank has a new sitcom starting tonight all about arguing


couples. He's going to settle long running arguments once and for all.


We have a couple in the studio. Yes. Matt is going to intervues you to


them. This is Antony and Tia. We said hello earlier today. You're


kind to come along tonight. This is all about mess. Start with you. Why


is Antony so bad? He just keeps his trainers all over the flat and


every time when I get up or go somewhere I'm always tripping over


them and he's got a place for them under the stairs, but no he doesn't


use it. When I open it I get a whoof of smelly feet. It's the


trainer thing. Do you feel like she stitches you up slightly by


creating a space under the stairs? I don't think it's true actually.


My shoes don't smell that bad. Yeah I think it is a bit of a stitch up.


I like to have them displayed. When people come round... Look at the


trainers? I'm a collector you see. Right. I have quite a few pairs.


That would make sense why people would want to lock at your shoes.


Why not. This is going on and on. When he picks his toenails, his


clippings they make a horrible noise and go everywhere. It's


interesting Frank because toenails are included in the second series.


Yes, they have caused many an argument. Once you clip a toenail


there's no telling where it can ends un. I sometimes hand out


goggles. People are having their tea. I'm sorry. They're talking


about sweaty trainers. These trainers are incubating under the


stairs. It's not good. They need some air. Whose side are you on?


Who wins? I think that this man is a collector and he has to have


somewhere to keep his collection. I don't imagine for a second that he


discovered trainers after their relationship, so she knew what she


was letting herself in for. Fair enough. A sporting victory. Loads


of them have come in. Saffron says "We were playing aye spy on the


beach, can you win with a word tide because I say you kpbtd because you


can't actually see the tide but my husband said you can." You can see


the tide can't you. That's what the frothy stuff is that hits the beach.


I would have thought soment Frank says so, that's it. Can I put


my judging stuff on. The full works. Now people will tune in and think


Peter string fellow is on. If you cut a sandwich in half, how many


sandwiches do you have. Men say one, I say two. Party sandwiches small


triangles, surely each is a separate sandwich? No every small


piece of bread that leaves is a sandwich in itself. If you cut a


piece of bread into eight, that's eight sandwiches. This evening


we've been seeing how our Olympic heroes cope being take be out of


their comfort zone. How are they Lucy is doing all right, they all


spent a bit of time out of the water, but I am proud of her, she


is really pushing hard and doing all right. I am going to have to


encourage her. Come on, sweetheart, push, push! Come on, Lucy! That is


a couple always pick up. I would quite like to say this throughout


there, you look brilliant. I fit in Oh, Classic! Time to continue the


story from last night of a retired British teacher who travelled to


India to meet the children she has been teaching from her home near


Oldham through the wonders of the internet.


Jackie Barrow is a teacher whose pupils' lives so far away that they


have never even met. -- whose pupils live. That is about to


change. After a ten-hour flight, she has finally landed in India for


the first time, on her way to the city of Pune, a four hour train


journey from Mumbai. You have got this fantastic scenery in the


distance. We have come pass some rural parts with paddy fields, it


looks like something out of a When I am at home, obviously it is


there has to imagine outside the little room that they Skype me from.


I certainly have not seen where the children live, so it is being able


to put it into that wider context, It is monsoon season here in Pune,


a booming city of 4 million people, renowned for its colleges and


universities and a beacon for the After a good night's sleep and


breakfast Indian-style, Jackie has had the perfect start to an


exciting day ahead. We are actually on our way to meet the children, so


we are driving through the streets of Pune. When I first got involved


in the project, if I had said what would have been the most exciting


thing to do ever, it would have been to come out and meet the


children that High Speed 2 over Skype. With over 400 million


children living in India, the education system is coming under


increasing strain. 7 million children do not attend school at


all. But a helping hand comes from schools like this one, where


Jackie's group come to get online. We are going to meet face to face,


which is really strange! I do not quite know what they are going to


make of it, and I am feeling very Just that first walking in, I was


not too sure how they were going to react, but that only lasted for a


very short time, I felt at ease with them and able to enjoy it.


Let's check I know everybody's name. What is your name? Thank you! You


Let's swim! What was this one? Chickens! I have presence for you.


-- presents. That was really fantastic, I enjoyed it so much. I


did not remember, I don't think, how much I enjoyed interacting with


children. Can you help me to tell the story? One day, he went out in


It was just great to be in the same room with them and be able to pick


up on things that they had said very easily, which is hard to do on


Skype. I really enjoyed it. leader single-handedly runs the


Granny Club project for the whole of India, and the two have become


close personal friends. The way they alter Muttley responded, it


was the sense of being able to do this and not being scolded. --


ultimately. Pretending I am a good kicking somebody! The other thing


that I noticed was that they were trying very hard not to imitate the


words but also the accent. It will make a huge difference when I speak


to them next time on Skype that I have actually met them. I will feel


much more able to interpret how much they are understanding and how


they are reacting to something. first session in India has been a


But the next part of Jackie's trip will be much more challenging. She


is going to visit some of the children's homes. To take a 12-


year-old girl out of school, from a child's point of view, it is so


wrong that she should have no access to education.


The final part of Jackie's journey will be on tomorrow's show.


have been out to Kenya, you have taught there. Yes, we made a film,


and I taught English in a school for a day, and in fact I just came


back on Monday, we have made another trip, so I went back to the


school again. Did you see a difference? Yes, and the lovely


thing... Their I am! The thing I discovered was that these children


are like sponges, they cannot wait to have that information, the


English language, because they know that being able to speak good


English and getting a good education, it is their way out of


living in the slum, it is their way out to fulfil their ambitions.


a great idea. So rewarding, I cannot tell you. Earlier we saw


Ainsley Harriott trying to create a thank you feast for a very brave


man from Cheshire. Even though he is having some trouble with his


kitchen, Ainsley and the locals are determined to make it a meal to


remember. Peter Dodd is a hero who stepped in


to protect an elderly customer who was being threatened by thieves,


wielding machetes during a raid on his post office. Put your card in...


He has been busy in the post office all day and does not have a clue


what is going on in the pub up the road. To thank him for his bravery,


we are organising a big feast, and outdoor extravaganza with all his


friends invited. I have not been able to do it without the support


from the Cheshire community, they have come up with the most


fantastic ingredients, thank you! It has been seat-of-the-pants stuff


so far. We lost the gas and water, because of the building works.


Luckily, we get reconnected. My appeal on the radio for supplies of


food has worked better than I expected. Supplies just keep on


arriving. What have we got here? range of Japanese. Beautiful!


You're an absolute diamond. I will tell you what I have got here, a


beautiful piece of pork, thermometer in mayor now, cooking


fantastic. When he sees this, look at that! With the help of my


adopted kitchen staff, the feast is coming together brilliantly, the


asparagus and tomatoes have been turned into wonderful salads, and


the meat has been prepared to perfection. All right, a bit of a


hurry now, getting everything done. Less than an hour to go, they still


an awful lot of work to do in the marquee. BASSA there is still. We


have managed to keep the party a secret so far, but it has been


welcome news to Margaret, who has rarely left home since the post


office raid. I have not been out, I am just terrified. I heard about


his party, and I thought, well, I would like to be there, because he


is the person that saved me, As our brass band arrives, I am


told our guest of honour is on the way. He thinks we are just having a


quiet meal together to talk about his bravery in the post office.


Little does he know! Nice to meet you. How are you doing? I have been


waiting all day for this. Boy, is the end for a surprise! Peter, all


of this is for you. Come on, let's I give you your hero, Peter Dodd,


He says to me, I am just a postmaster, he is more than that,


Margaret, you might not have been I think he is a very important role


model within the village, with him being the postmaster, he knows


everybody and everybody knows him, and what he did was fantastic.


is an amazing man, a good example of what is good about our community,


one of these people that is always doing things for other people, they


tend to not expect people to do things for them. There we are, a


nice bit of crackling. And so on were the feast, and due to his


unselfish nature, Peter insists everyone else is served first. Are


you going to have a bit of this? At last, time to give him his well-


earned feet. Oh, lovely! It was a special moment. I have never been


so gobsmacked in my life! They said she will not talk to anybody or go


out, but she is having a good time. It has been one of those days that


has been full of drama, a bit of panic, but all of us together, we


might just have pulled it off. Brilliant. Isn't that lovely? What


a lovely man. Time to go back to the racing in St Mawes now, how is


the race going? I am trying not to laugh, because to begin with Lizzie


was all smiles, but now all I can see his teeth. She is doing quite


well, in about six, only five votes behind her. I think she has done


very well. If I'm honest, the oar has come out of the water a few


times, but she is not disgracing herself. My only worry is that if


she does not hurry up, we will run out of light and petrol, and I have


his say, it has been emotional, and I have got my jacket on specially.


The winner has finished, she has done so well. How far has she got


to go? She is in sixth position, six out of 11 boats, she has done


very well indeed. She will be moaning all night that their arms


or saw, but she has done the One Show proud. Brilliant, yes, and


hopefully she will finish while we are on air. We will let you know.


What is your biggest sporting achievement? This will not take


long. I learned to swim the earlier in the year, and for me that was an


enormous achievement. I did it for Sport Relief. That is me, looking


good! Yes, and I swam a length and got a proper certificate and


everything. I have been frightened of water and my whole life. Are you


a regular swimmer now? I have not taken my son yet. He has got to


have jams or something like that. You are only just out of arm bands


yourself. You can still see the lines. I'm going to take him, I did


not want to be a dad who could not swim. At least you will stay in the


shallow end for a while. It is brilliant, just floating about. I


have no experience of weightlessness, it is great,


because I was not involved in the space race. There was a


misunderstanding. You have got a special coming up as well. Yes, we


are anxious for everyone to know about this special week-long series


later in the air about holidays, and we have not made it yet, and we


are hoping that anybody who has horror stories about their holidays,


travel agents, airlines, hotels full of cockroaches, whatever it is.


Let us know. Everybody has got one. Can I just so quickly that in this


year alone we have managed to pay back half a million pounds to


people? Ordinary they would not have got that back, fighting


insurance companies. I think that is pretty good. Thank you for


coming along, all the very best with the series, tonight on Radio 4


Matt and Alex are joined by Frank Skinner and Rip Off Britain's Gloria Hunniford, Angela Rippon and Julia Somerville. We're live in Cornwall, where local rowers are battling Team GB's medal winners in a unique race, and there's a special treat in store for a heroic Cheshire postmaster.

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