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Hello and welcome to
The One Show with Matt Baker.
And Michelle Ackerley.
It's Wednesday which means Alex
and her team of incredible mums
are over halfway through the Mother
of All Challenges for Sport Relief.
They must already be looking forward
to a showstopping finale on Friday.
And we know the man
who could write them one.
He is - quite simply -
the most-successful British
songwriter of all time.
# It's so easy to leave me
# Don't cry for me Argentina
# The truth is, I never left you
# The Phantom of the Opera is now
# Your mastermind
Amazing coloured coat
Please welcome Lord
Andrew Lloyd Webber!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Your fans are in tonight.
reception. Lovely to have you here,
and are you. We will talk a lot
about your memoir. You have joined
joined when we have lost two of our
greats, Jeremy Bowen and Stephen
Hawking. You must have met him?
met him a couple of times at
parties. The only conversation I had
with him was because music, thank
goodness, not sure I would have
understood anything else.
his taste of music
A wide taste in
classical music, the Mozart requiem.
Which I share with imhad. I'm one of
these people who can't understand
the concept of infinity.
tough one that.
I'm hopeless when it
comes to understanding anything he
was talking about.
We were happy he
was there to stand.
Amazing person. Very engaging when
Talking of talking and
words here are inspiring words from
the man who unlocked the secrets of
Try to make sense of
what you see and wonder about what
makes the universe exist. Be
Without imperfection you or
I would not exist.
I'm not afraid of death, I'm not in
a hurry to die, I've so much I want
to do first.
Never give up work.
Work gives you meaning and purpose
and life is empty without it.
been a glorious time to be alive.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is
not ignorance it's the illusion of
People who boost about
their IQ are losers.
Life would be
tragic if it weren't funny.
tragic if it weren't funny.
remember to look up at the stars and
not down at your feet. Thank you to
the Science Museum and the
University College London. We are
joined by the BBC's science
correspondent, Pallab Ghosh. You met
him many times?
I got to know him
well. I have known him for 20 years.
It's a sad day. I remember the first
time I met him. He was my Oied idol.
You can imagine how nervous I was
when I came to meet him. When he
arrived, he smiled at me and
immediately put me at my ease. I
think that's one of the reasons why
people have taken to him so much. He
was basically a really nice bloke.
That was the thing that came across.
For all his kind of complex
intellectual ideas, he had a
wonderful charisma, warmth and
humanitarian. That is what I
remembered about him.
to hear. We all know of him as an
incredible scientists. Just how
important is his legacy, in terms of
inspiring people in
Well, he said
that when he was diagnosed with
motor neurone disease that was when
he kicked off. He wasn't that
interested in his work. It was all
too easy. He decided then that
everything else was going to be a
bonus. Look at what he achieved. The
frontiers of science. The most
famous scientists in the world
whole. If he could do that with that
disability, what could the rest of
us do. Another word that is often
used with Stephen Hawking is
"inspiration." Anyone that came
close to him and saw what he did
could not fail to be inspired.
heard him saying, life would be
tragic if it wasn't funny. This was
something else, great wit and humour
that crossed generations, didn't it?
He played a joke on me that very
first time I met him. We were
filming an interview and the
cameraman wanted to change the
lighting he said - is it all right
if I unplugged this. He did. All
these sirens went off. We thought,
we've plugged something crucial to
Professor Hawking's wellbeing. He
slumped over. It turned out he was
laughing at our incompetence. He was
a huge joker.
On that point, Andrew.
We knew you did a clip for Comic
Were you auditioning to
be Stephen's voice. Look at this.
Time to find my new voice.
listen to my voice. It's deep, it's
sexy. It's got a tinge of...
I'm the obvious choice. I'm
intelligent, kind of, and I'm young
and cool. Kind of.
Frankly, I think
your life is so important that it
ought to be a musical. I'm
thinkingful something like K
everybody's Hawk hawk. A really,
really big show.
# Memory, you have photographic
Not a chance!
are thinking of all of Stephen's
friends and family today.
We're moving on now
to something we've talked
about many times on the show
- single-use plastic.
Because in yesterday's
Spring Statement, the Chancellor
called for a consultation
on a potential plastic tax.
It's the kind of co-ordinated
action that supermarkets,
recycling companies and councils
have all been calling for.
But where do the people who actually
make the plastic stand?
We've been kind of demonised as
producers of this poison that is
killing the country.
It seems to be
almost like a panic at the moment.
These people all work in an industry
that almost overnight has become
I can't watch
the TV. I can't tell my friends who
I work for. It can be pretty
embarrassing at times.
family-run company has been making
plastic for almost 70 years and now
produces 100 million single-use
plastic tumblers every year. I don't
think it's the enemy. It's the way
that certain people misuse them. The
salesman manager John Reeves
contacted the One Show to defend the
industry. I'm here at his factory to
hear his argument that plastic need
not be the environmental scourge
that some say it is.
One of the core products we have is
the flexi glass. We can make a
million of these glasses a day.
This is disposable.
Designed to be used one time only.
How is that defensivable given
everything we know about plastic
These are used at many,
many different occasions. At
sporting events, music festivals.
The reason it's used is that it's
absolutely fit for purpose and it
doesn't present any danger to any
member of the public.
Why not use a
The difficulty with a
paper cup is you are left with the
same problem. A paper cup typically
has a plastic interior which means
the product is difficult to recycle.
They know their market but it
understand it is has a
responsibility to ensure the cups it
manufacturers doesn't end up in
We can get the cups back
and recycle them and reuse the
material again. We work at large
scale music events, festivals and
sporting arenas am we are designing
recollection centres and recycling
centres that can go on the concourse
of these grounds. We are scooping
the glasses up at the end of the
events, bringing them back,
reprocessing them, remanufacturing
and making the product into
something that can be useful. Our
ultimate goal is to take the cup,
use it, it comes back here and we
make it back into a cup.
what is called closed loop
recycling. Reprocessing used plastic
and remanufacturing it into other
products. Although the company can't
yet do that itself, it recently
started working with HAHN Plastics
outdoor furniture, decking boards,
bollards, retaining wall structures,
and all of them are made from 100%
recyclable plastic. If we use
plastic cups as an example, it would
typically take 22,000 to make a
garden bench and 48,000 to make a
typical picnic table.
But not all
manufacturers are reusing plastic in
this way and recycling companies
believe the government should be
putting regulations in place to make
The important thing to
remember with plastic recycling is
everyone has a part to play. You and
I go into the supermarket and buy a
shampoo bottle off the shelve and
put the bottle in the bin. We supply
it to a client to
it to a client to produce another
item. We need to get it right from
the start and retailers and consumer
brands are designing products for
repsychability. We should be saying,
if you are a consumer brand or
retailer and you want to do business
in this country, you must include a
minimum amount of row sighable
material in your packaging. It's a
resource, not rubbish. We want to
keep it off our beaches and oceans
and put it back in the British
economy where it belongs.
Government will be work with the
plastics industry to reform
regulations and incentivise
producers to take greater
responsibility for the environmental
impact of their products. Back on
the factory floor, John is keen to
show me the finished product. Here
they come, the end of the line he
with say it's the end of the line.
You don't want it to be the end of
This is the start of the
line, really. We want to make sure
we can get as many of these cups, if
not all of these cups back, and get
them back into the recycling
This could potentially be
big news for all of us as this type
of low grade single-use plastic is
one of the most difficult to find a
market for. So I hope we get bins
like this at major sporting events,
concerts, festivals really soon.
Thank you Lucy. Next week we will
look in more detail at how recycled
plastic is being used to pave
Indeed. Andrew it's
your 70th birthday next week and you
had a business busy time, a new
album and a memoir Unmasked. We know
you as a prolific songwriter. Have
you enjoyed the process of bright
wroo writing a I used to memoir.
the food reviews for the Daily
Telegraph. Writing is something I've
enjoyed doing. I can't write lyrics.
I'm useless. You don't want to ask
me about those.
Don't go there.
enjoy writing pros.
Did you think of
doing a musical of your life?
say in the introduction to the book,
I'm the most boring person I've ever
Come on! Come on.
highly doubt that.
You had an
We have a
picture of your auntie with a monkey
on her shoulder. This is what you
grew up -
My auntie didn't live in
the house. My father had a huge
electronic organ. My mother took a
shine to a pianist and much
supported him. He often was in the
house practicing away with loud
music. My brother on the cello. I
wonder what the neighbours thought.
They must have gone mad. I was
leaving the house with Tim Rice,
Julian was playing away on his cello
the guy lefrpd leapt out saying, I
don't mind the organ or the piano
but it obeo player I can't stand. I
got into musicals. My Fair Lady came
into town when I was nine years old.
I saw My Fair Lady and West Side
Story back-to-back. Two different
musicals. I fell in love with them.
With my aunt being in the theatre
and me making glamorous people in
the theatre who she knew, the whole
thing just... It grabbed me at an
early age. At a time when kids
weren't into musicals at all. Is the
That, isn't it
One show on
Saturday night which completely
grabbed me. It was called Oh, boy,
on ITV, shot by a guy who went on to
direct the Rockfella. Filmed in the
Hackney Empire. It was live. They
used the theatre as if it was part
of the set. When I was very young I
thought of rock music as theatre.
That put me apart from the others
who were at that time doing The
And these days, if you don't own
them, you work closely with those
theatres you grew up in. That must
be extraordinary now.
theatre I went to to see anything
was the London Palladium, that is
one of ours. The first theatre I saw
a musical was the Theatre Royal,
Drury Lane, and that is one of ours!
My great joy at the moment is we are
going to refurbish and reconstruct
the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane. It
closes in a year. That is
closes in a year. That is going to
be great fun, make it for today.
talk in your memoirs about stories
that might have been, some leading
ladies that didn't end up playing
big roles, Judi Dench, Liza
Judi Dench was going to
play Grisabella in caps but she
broke her Achilles tendon in
rehearsals and people often as me
what Memory would have been like if
Judi had some good, and almost like
Edith Pier Avenue, if it makes any
sense. And Liza Minnelli, I have
known her very wealthy years but she
has never done anything of my but
she did screen test for the movie of
Evita. I didn't have any control but
I remember it was rather weird, she
had a blonde wig and didn't look
great in a blonde wig. And then
Bette Midler, we cast Jesus Christ
Superstar and Robert Stig Wood, the
producer, Castellet in New York with
a lady from the original album --
Robert Stig would. We got a
last-minute call from an agent who
said you must go and see this girl
who has been singing in a swimming
baths in New York and I went at the
last minute and she sang I Don't
Know How To Love Him and it was to
die for but we had cast by that time
and it was not to be.
The book is a
brilliant memoir, it is all in there
and it is quite a read, I must say.
And while we are celebrating Lord
Webber's achievements, we can't
forget the hard work being done by
Alex and her team of mums for Sport
So far, they have swum
through the freezing waters of Loch
Ness, they have climbed one of the
Lake District's highest peaks and
the Mother of All Challenges, it is
called for a reason.
And it is stage
three, time for them to get on their
With two elements of our Mother of
All Challenges in the bag, we are
feeling tired and missing our loved
There is quite sombre feel
this morning brawlers. We are all
exhausted and missing home.
he said mum for the first time over
the weekend and I wasn't there to
see it. So I am finding it really
Today, at that hour swim and
hike, we have a long-distance cycle
ride which will take us over three
of the toughest passes in the Lakes,
the Kirk Stone, the Hollister and
the new lands. That is 7,000 feet of
The first one will be Kirk
stone pass, it will be a really
Your legs will be a bit
ropey, hopefully they will holdout
for the cycle today, especially for
the big hills, which will be
We are absolutely
shattered but we can't put it off
any longer. Debbie and I have been
chosen to cycle the first leg.
think today is going to be
ridiculously tough. And I have my
lucky heart from my girl.
scared of the big hills. It is a
tough challenge for me and the Debs,
who has suffered from depression in
I got to the stage where I
couldn't leave the house with my two
little girls, I was too scared.
was the Trigger for that?
It was the
trauma of Ed Leigh's birth, how'd
you carry on, what are people
thinking about me? And I thought, I
have got to get some help here.
thank goodness I did. That is why
Debbie, mall, Jodi and Leigh are
here pushing themselves to raise
awareness for other mums who may be
going through other situations. And
Debbie, up these hills, is really
having to push herself.
You can do it, Debs.
can. Keep driving, great work.
of the girls.
really tough, but she doesn't give
up. Even after miles of cycling.
This is so hard.
This is so hard.
With little power
left in her legs,... This mum does
That was truly
remarkable. That is some of the
bravest riding I have ever seen.
That is inspirational for anybody.
am not pushing you!
am not pushing you!
Jodi, Leigh and
Amal take on the next leg.
think back to a year ago, I could
barely get out of a chair. And it
wasn't only for physical disability,
I just wasn't motivated to move.
This was an opportunity, a chance to
move forward beyond all of the
rubbish I went through, you know,
into a new life.
The flat stretch of
road soon runs out.
Oh, my guard!
Are you kidding?
The sheer gradient
of the harnessed pass claims its
casualty. -- of Coniston pass.
have got this, this is your
And then the steep
incline proves too much for the
Go on, girly.
brutal out here. The fact you have,
this far is incredible.
strain and injury, these mums ride
onto the top of their last hill.
Don't look back.
That is so
much worse than I ever imagined.
We had all
planned to join up again for the
final leg but after 11 hours in the
saddle and dark most roaring in, the
decision was made to call it a day.
They have had an incredible day,
they have achieved a huge amount,
climbing over 7,000 feet, some
massive climbs throughout the day
but they just couldn't finish off
because of the safety aspect, and so
I have taken them off the road. What
I am really keen for them to do is
to remember what they have achieved,
something truly exceptional.
Very, very good effort.
Tomorrow, Alex and the team will be
caving in the Brecon Beacons.
support the Mother of All Challenges
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So, shall we have a little look and
see how much you have all donated so
far for this challenge? It is
currently standing at...
currently standing at... Thank you,
one and all and well done mums, keep
Team mum! And before they
started their challenge, Alex took
two of the team over to Kenyi to
receive your donations in action and
here is the first report -- over to
Kenya's capital city,
Nairobi. I have come to this
district with Amal and Debbie. It is
home to thousands of children.
But delivering a child here is far
from straightforward. Each year in
Kenya, around 74,000 children die
before their fifth birthday. In the
UK, that figure is 3,000. For many
families, this can be due to poor
hygiene and sanitation.
It is quite an assault on
everything, the smell, the heat and
the human sewerage that is running
through this whole place.
And, sadly, there is another reason.
Not enough women go to a hospital or
clinic to have their babies.
Hello, are you Jane?
We have come to meet Jane. She has
lived here her whole life.
TRANSLATION: I gave birth at the
home and after two months, my baby
had rashes on its body and losing
weight and vomiting and then my baby
Jane, can I ask what your
baby's name was? Speaker Margaret. A
TRANSLATION: I think about her all
Talking to Jane brings
back difficult memories for Debbie,
who has miscarried twice and nearly
lost her own child Ellie.
almost like looking in the mirror,
talking to her, but hers is a
million times worse.
It brings them
They are precious the world
over, kids are precious.
news is that Jane is pregnant again
and is getting help from community
health worker Lorna, who encourages
mums to receive care at the nearby
Kibera health Centre, supported by
Sport Relief donations. Through this
project we visiting today, they are
trying to do that, to educate these
women and help them realise it is
much safer for them to give birth in
the clinic where they have
professionals that can help.
In this clinic, they do absolutely
everything. Women come here to give
birth, they do immunisations, they
do postnatal care on the mothers.
Without this establishment and the
care and facilities they provide
here, it would be a very different
scenario for women and babies.
Helen is the nurse in charge and
helps to keep the centre running.
How many women do you see on average
every morning here, then?
We see up
to 40 children every day, those who
come in for immunisations. Then we
have those that come for growth. So
sometimes 60 children.
staff would serve 60 or so children?
Two people, a nutritionist and a
I get stressed if I have to
see ten plus patients in a morning
clinic. I cannot imagine having to
get through 60 patients on my own.
Every mother who comes here will be
seen, regardless of the staffing
But this clinic's work is not just
about women. Men play an important
role to. Having sadly lost two wives
and four children, Lucas's job is to
educate fathers and their families
on natal care.
I do educate men. If
your wife is pregnant, she should go
to clinic, she should take a
balanced diet. We tell them about
hygiene, boiling water, drinking
Are you seeing a difference?
Before, they are very bad but now,
they catch up.
This improved education of parents
has helped mums like Jane, who is
now able to visit the health centre
with health worker Lorna, securing a
better chance for a healthy future
for her new baby.
The clinic seems so busy and,
obviously, the babies are very
healthy and doing well. What sort of
things would help you?
infrastructure and, of course,
training, for health care workers.
You need a few more Helens.
mother smiles at me and says thank
you, that is it, I am satisfied.
No one should have to go through
what Jane did and lose a baby.
Projects like this one can help save
£10, just £10 will buy equipment to
help newborn babies that are
struggling to breathe.
And £20 will
help provide training for hero
community health volunteers like
Lorna to help keep mothers and
Honestly, your money
will help so many mothers and so
many babies in this area. Just
donate what you can, thank you.
And that is exactly what
is driving them on that challenge,
pushing themselves to the absolute
limit so they can give opportunities
We will have more from Alexandre
mums' visit to Kenya tomorrow.
that is it, thank you to our guest
Andrew Lloyd Webber.
His memoir Unmasked is out now.
And Unmasked: The Platinum
Collection - an album
Angelica is back tomorrow and we
will find out while Debbie McGee has
Matt Baker and Michelle Ackerley are joined by one of Britain's most successful composers, Lord Andrew Lloyd Webber, who explains why he has put songwriting on hold to finally pen his memoir, after more than 50 years in showbusiness.