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Hello. Welcome to The One Show with Alex Jones. And Matt Baker. Tonight

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we are joined by an actor who does not just play famous people, he

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becomes them. He has been Kenneth Williams, Tony Blair, Sir David

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Frost, Brian Clough. So who will he play next then - Jesus? He already

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has! It's Michael Sheen. APPLAUSE

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Welcome back. Thank you very much. When you are playing these people

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then, they say you don't like to meet them - the living ones, that

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is, obviously, before you do the role. Is that true? For instance,

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with David Frost, who was a lovely, lovely man. Anyone who met him would

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always say what a lovely man he is. You don't want to be compromised at

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the early stages when you are working on something. You will be

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warts and all portrayal. If you've got a relationship with someone, you

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don't want to be thinking, oh, will he be upset if I do this?

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As we see, as viewers, you are so bang on with that characterisation,

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you would think your first port of call would be to sit down and say,

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what do you think of this? You have to make it imaginative. You have to

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find a point between the real person and yourself, so you can inhabit it.

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It is Benedict Cumberbatch playing Julian Assange in The Fifth State.

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Julian said to him, don't do it. I think I heard him say that the day

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he was about to start filming it, he had that. That is a difficult

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position to be in. What would you do then? You have make a decision

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whether you, this is the right thing to do - regardless of whether the

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person you are playing thinks it is the right thing to do. That is your

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call. Then you have to stand by it, I suppose. It is your job. You have

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to put food on the table. We will talk to Michael about his latest ce

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consideration. Despite a raise -- latest creation. The Fostering

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Network say 30% of foster parents are leaving the service each year.

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Tony Livesey had met one couple as they prepare themselves and their

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home for fostering a child. Even their chihuahua is under scrutiny.

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In the UK we are short of foster homes. 9,000 are needed over the

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next year. This recent advert by Cumbria County Council had the

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desired effect. They received four times as many inquiries as usual.

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Deciding to be a foster parent is often the first tiny step on a long

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and difficult road. Out of 350 people who inquiry about fostering

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in Cumbria each year, only 20 go on to be accepted. And the qualifying

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process can take up to a year. Angela and her husband Darren are

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ten months down that road. Why did you decide to do this? What was the

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trigger point for you? Because we know we can give a child a home I is

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nice to think you are doing something good. It will be nice for

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our children to have the experience of having other children around them

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as well. Whether they are approved or not, they have started preparing

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the spare room. The fun bit is getting all the toys

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ready. There are rules they have to stick to as well. Is there almost a

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check list? Yes. What is on it? Like smoke alarms, locks on cupboards. So

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you are assessed for all kinds of things. What about your pets? There

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is a risk assessment. The chihuahua has been risk-assessed. Is he all

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right? Yes. He passed. What about the parrot - is he risk-assessed?

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Yes. Were you surprised at the level of detail? I was not expecting with

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the pets. I suppose it has to be done. ??FORCEWHITE Angela is

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excited, but she has some concerns. How do you think you'll cope when

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you have to hand the baby back? It will be hard. It is difficult.

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Obviously you could have had that child from being tiny and then

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you've had that child maybe six months, and then they are going to

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be moving on and also I worry about how my children will cope with that

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as well. I have brought Angela to meet Sally,

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who is currently fostering two children. She has cared for over 100

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in the past 25 years. So, she's has to say goodbye plenty of times.

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It is something you will not really know until you actually do it. Once

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they drive off in the car, I come in and my legs wobble and I have to sit

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down and I have a good cry. There have been times when we've looked

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after older children, in particular, and teenagers, who, their behaviour

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has become so disruptive, I've had to ask them if they can be moved on.

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Once the children are gone, do you hear from them again? Very often.

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Yes we do. Today, I have received a parcel from a little girl who moved

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into adoption recently. She sent me some seeds for the garden.

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Some chocolate. Bless!

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That is the rewarding part, isn't it? Absolutely! It was a pleasure to

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receive that. I am a dad. I like to think I am a good one. Would I want

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strangers coming into my private life? Would I like to be told I have

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to adapt my house. You have to really want these children. That is

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the problem - not enough people do. Here are the facts - you are

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eligible to foster if you are single, a same-sex couple, disabled

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or childless. Generally, you shouldn't smoke, if you want very

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young children. For Paul and his wife, that was one rule too many.

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They pulled out when Essex County Council queried their application

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after he admitted to smoking cigars at a party. It was devastating.

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Devastating for my wife and, you know, obviously devastating for he,

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given the amount of time and the actual energy we'd put into that

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process over the two years. When you have put your all energy and effort

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and all your thought process into two years into something, at that

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stage then, we honestly felt we couldn't put ourselves through that

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again. Those who do stick it out have to have medical checks, provide

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between two-six personal references. If the children are not siblings,

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they must have separate bedrooms. You do earn money. Around ?200 per

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child per week, depending on where you live. Tracey is responsible for

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approving carers in Cumbria. It is intrusive and it does take a lot of

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time and work. It is necessary. The Government have recently relaxed

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some of the rules, trying to make it easier to adopt. Would you advocate

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relaxing the rules in fostering? We have our rules in fostering for good

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reasons. That is to make sure that everybody is safeguarded. And there

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is a lot of rules there to protect the children and the carers.

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It will be two months before Angela and Darren find out if they have

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been approved. How would you feel? You are this close to the finishing

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line. How would you feel if something went wrong and you were

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told there would be no child? I would be devastated. We've come this

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far. Thanks so much Tony. All the best as well to Angela and Darren,

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who have the final panel meeting on 13th December. We wish you all the

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best for that. We were talking there. You are involved in a charity

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which supports foster children. You are re at the other end. By the time

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you get to 18 you have to leave any foster care you are in. So, in terms

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of, where do you go to live? Well, there's a charity and limited

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company within the Neath Port Talbot area that I got involved with and

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they work with young people between 16-25, helping them move into

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accommodation, with supported living and hopefully independent living as

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well. It will help them through that process. So, apart from being a

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local charity, was there any reason in particular, did your relatives

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foster? This is not the reason I got involved. I found out recently, my

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mum and dad said, that before me and my sister were born, they got

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involved with an organisation where a child or children would come and

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be with you for like a day a week or a couple of days a week, to either

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give their parents a break or whatever the situation is. It is so

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weird to think, my parents looked after another child before I came

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along. It was not the reason I got involved. I worked on the Passion in

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Port Talbot a couple of years ago. I started to find out about all this

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incredible work going on in the Neath Port Talbot area.

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Organisations like Cross Roads, working with young carers, the drug

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and rehabilitation... You see all these amazing organisations. I

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trooed to get involved with as -- tried to get involved with as many

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as I could. You have to make sure that obviously it is the right place

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- but any way, now Mike Dilger has been to visit a piece of protected

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land in Cumbria. You cannot dig or use metal detectors. The site is so

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precious. Happily, no-one has told the local moles yet.

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In a remote area of the North Pennines these mounds of earth hide

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one of the best preserved Roman forts in Europe. Built around 1900

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years ago and known to the Roman Romans as Surrounding the Point, it

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housed a garrison of around 600 men. This site is incredibly important to

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our national heritage. It is highly protected bylaw. There's a ban on

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digging, no metal detecting allowed. You cannot disturb the ground at

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all. The only thing is, no-one seems to have told the moles and that they

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have become the researchers' secret weapon. Digging is what moles do.

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Whilst going about their daily routine, they have started an

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excavation of their own. For Eline, who owns the land, this amount of

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mole holes would normally be her worst nightmare. Many gardeners and

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farmers alike don't like moles. We spend a lot of time trying to get

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rid of them. On the Roman fort, for us, they are doing a good job. How

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did it come about? Foush years ago, walkers led by English Heritage. One

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happened to look down and see something on top of a mole hill.

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They found a bronze dolphin. You can see a fin and an eye as well. It is

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thought to be the handle of a knife. You think the moles brought this to

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the surface? They definitely did. Today is mole hill survey day, with

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archaeological excavation forbidden here, the moles and the mole hills

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they produce is producing the only opportunity the volunteers have to

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reveal the fort's secrets. We need to take the top soil into our garden

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sieve and start to explore it. One mole hill can bring forth a few

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finds. Another may bring forward nothing. Although there is nothing

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in this one, another volunteer has had more luck. This is a pestle and

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mortar. You know this because if you turn it over, and feel the inside

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edge... Much rougher? Much rougher. It has been ground done down. --

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down. Most people will not see one alive. I have organised to bring one

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along to meet the volunteers. Look at that - isn't it amazing. Isn't it

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fast! Cute! Shall we lift him out and have

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a look? Look at that! He's incredibly strong. He's constantly

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try trying to get my hands apart. Spending most of their lives

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underground, they have tiny eyes, meaning they are virtually blind.

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Instead, they rely on their whiskers, sensing their

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surroundings. They have got absolutely enormous

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paws. That's basically the digging apparatus. How are they managing to

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get the artefacts from underground? They have all this soil they need to

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move out. They have vertical chambers. Literally they will brace

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one arm and push it up like that. They are incredibly strong. Whatever

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is down there, along with the earth will be pushed out. That is how the

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artefacts are coming from maybe three, four, five metres down.

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With the mole released back to where it came from, it is time for me to

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find out who hidden tres sthurs -- treasures his companions have

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brought up. They have been busy. There is so much stuff here!

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Wed have spring 2 #0 #1 11-2013. Hundreds of artefacts have been

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found, including jet and glass beads, pottery and even a solid

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bronze door knob. The finds, generally speaking, none are

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particularly special or valuable. Together they are all very

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interesting. What does it tell you about the bigger picture of life in

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this fort? It gives you a feeling for every day life here. It enables

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us to see what was going on within it. It is thanks to the moles we are

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able to do that. These moles have proved they can be

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more than garden pests. Here, at least, their digging has helped

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unearth the secrets of Roman Britain. The next time you pass a

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mole hill, why not take a second look! You never know what they might

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have dug up! That was absolutely fascinating. And

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we are now going to talk about animal Minix. Starting with the

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cuckoo. Recent research has said that the cuckoo is trying to imitate

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the sparrowhawk. It is a sheep in wolf is clothing. It wants to try to

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go into the nest and put in a name. The females go one step further, and

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they can get their eggs to mimic the host bird's, so certain females only

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go for certain species of other bird whose nests they will plant their

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eggs in. Now we move onto mimic octopus. This

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can change to a flounder, and has a repertoire of 50 different animals.

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And this one, my favourite. These are territorial damsel fish, and it

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is representing a snake, a predator of the fish, so that they disappear.

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And finally, a crab. It comes over to have a look, and the octopus

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startles, changes colour, and the crab backs off. It is so intelligent

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it can change to 50 different animals and big which one it wants

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according to the predator to defend itself. -- 15 different ones. That's

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amazing. And there is a plant example as well. This was found in

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2009. It is the largest single flower in the world, and this huge

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spike comes up in a matter of a couple of days, and it stinks of

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rotting flesh. It will attract pollinating flies. You were talking

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about your process earlier, and you have been an animal. I have been. At

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some point in drama school, you have to learn to do animal study, and

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everyone has to pick an animal, and in retrospect, the King and animal

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that doesn't move much, that was a good idea. I was a black widow

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spider. Can you do it now? I dressed all in black with big Dr Martens on,

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and sat on top of a piano, and that is all I did. And I dropped on

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Michael Powell, who was pretending to be a Labrador puppy. Classic! In

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a moment, we will be talking about Michael's new series, it does have

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adult themes but we will make sure that it is right for our family

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audience. And now we would like everybody to

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get closer, because we are talking about hugging. It is all because of

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this lady. She is an Indian spiritual leader who believes that

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hugs can spread a bit of peace. That feels very peaceful. She says

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she has already hugged 32 million people. That is unbelievable. But

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can she bring herself to hug Justin Rowlatt.

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Everyone seems to be doing it. All additions, world leaders, the rich

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and famous. Even animals are at it. We all need a hug from time to time.

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Look at the weather, no wonder I'm feeling down. I could do with a hug.

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But I can't seem to get one. But I know where I can. Amma tours the

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world giving hugs. She is in London today.

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How much can a hug really achieve? It can open your heart. It can

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change your perception of life. She says she's doing it to spread love

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and peace throughout the world. What is in a hug? Without love,

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there is no existence. There is no life. The love that you have for

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others, you express it by hugging them. With a single hug, you can

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save a life. Amma, could any hug make a

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difference, or is it just yours that are special?

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If you have a pure attitude and pure intention, then you can transform

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anyone, because the potential is within anyone. Love is our true

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nature. It is something that you have to

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experience, and you can't put it into words. It speaks to my heart.

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Thank you. Now you have a smile on your face. You have hugged millions

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of people. What you hope this will achieve?

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I don't claim anything and I don't think in that way. I have become an

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offering to the world, and once you become an offering, you cannot claim

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anything. It is actually quite intense, because she holds you very

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tightly and chance in your ear, and you become enveloped in Amma. It is

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always nice to get a hug, and it has actually made me feel a bit better.

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You can't beat a little Pudsey hug while you are there! We are asking

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viewers at home to post your hugging pictures on our Facebook page. And

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Michael, we have this for you. This is a hugging cushion. You can

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give yourself a nice little hug. There you are. A friend at last! You

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can take that to LA now. I will. Now, your new TV series. William

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Masters is a pioneer in sexual relations. Izzy at the opposite end

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of the scale to a hug? He certainly wasn't a hunger. He was doing a

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study about the most intimate thing that you can do, and yet he was

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really bad with people. He had terrible social skills. He was such

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a closed book, didn't like to be vulnerable in any way will stop how

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did you find all that out about him?

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There is a book by a man called Thomas Maier, which this series is

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based around. But he was a really difficult man to get to know. Even

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people who knew him all his life said that they knew nothing about

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him. And the relationship that he had with the woman who was his

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partner in terms of the work they did, and was eventually married to

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him, Virginia Johnson, it is still impossible to know what was really

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going on in relationship. Perfect drama. For those people who haven't

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seen it, you can catch up online. So who were William Masters and

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Virginia Johnson? William Masters was a leading obstetrics and

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gynaecology surgeon in America, and a fertility expert. In the 1950s. He

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had a passion for doing a pioneering study into the effect on the human

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body of sex. And obviously this was a hugely controversial subject at

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the time, and nobody talked about it. It was the most to brew subject.

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So in terms of his study, he was running the risk of losing all

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respect, losing his position. So he went into this study, but he found

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it very difficult to deal with people, so Virginia Johnson, who was

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his secretary to begin with, eventually became an equal partner.

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Let's have a look at you in action. Women in the 1950s were kept in

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their place. I don't understand. If you think I'm

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qualified to conduct scientific research, how am I not... There is

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no study. The study is forbidden here, something you had a hand in,

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may I remind you. And in case you've forgotten, it has taken me over 20

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years to get where I am with medical school and everything. When you have

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that kind of experience under your belt, you can tell me to take the

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lab coats to the basement. Is that clear?

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APPLAUSE You told her!

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There are explicit scenes, but what is your daughter, because she is a

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teenager, what do she think? It is the ultimate nightmare for her. Her

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dad is in a show called Masters of Sex. She is 14. She can barely go to

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school. And seven series? That is 160 episodes. That is standard for

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American TV. But we don't know if we will be able to do another series.

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The standard thing is you sign on for a pilot episode not even knowing

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if the first season is going to happen, but you have to do a deal

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for seven years. Is it hard to maintain a balance between acting

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here and over their? It is not so much the acting. My family are here

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in Wales, my friends are here, and a lot of the things that concern me

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most are here. Masters of Sex is on Channel four -- on television

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tomorrow night. And John Sergeant is going to meet

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people who make one particular item of clothing, and we are not talking

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about cardigans. A large clothing manufacturer here

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in Cardigan employed 400 people, turning out thousands of garments,

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including ladies jeans. 11 years ago, all that changed. On November

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eight 2002, overnight, the unemployment rate doubled when the

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biggest factory in the town closed down. The company had decided to

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shift production to Morocco. It is sickening. I am too upset to talk. I

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will have to move away. The local county council recalls the effect on

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the town. It was devastating, because you had not just 10% of the

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workforce but 10% of the population suddenly out of work overnight. And

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although they will offer alternative employment out in Morocco, few of

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them could take that up. For a small town, it was a big blow.

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Richard Williams, his wife Heather and son Paul all lost their jobs

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with the closure of the factory. Was it a real shock? A massive shock,

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not just to us but to the community. It wasn't just a job, it was a way

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of life at Dewhirs. It must've been an awful time. We were lost after 30

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years of regular salary. There were many families in the same

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boat, but nine years after the factory closed, they were offered a

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lifeline. Entrepreneur David Hyatt wanted to set up a new British jeans

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band, and one place with existing manufacturing know-how was Cardigan.

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I have been coming here for 30 years, and I knew the town used to

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make jeans. And when I was thinking about making jeans, I was thinking,

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it would be easier for us to go to China, and cheaper, but actually, I

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wanted to do something for myself and for the town. How much of a risk

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was it? Without the people here, we couldn't have done it. We had almost

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150 years of experience of making jeans, so on quality, we can win.

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How much of these genes going for? Pics -- the expensive ones ?240, the

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affordable ones, ?130. They would be ?30, ?40, ?50 cheaper made abroad,

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but our relationship with our customers has to be direct. Whereas

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the market? London, California, Australia, Hong Kong. It is a global

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market. We want to build a global denim brand, and we know that is

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tough. With three of the original team, and David caused grandmasters,

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in 2011, Cardigan was again producing genes. Initially, just 30

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pairs a week. And Evans is one of the grandmasters, and spent seven

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years working in Morocco. It is a dream come true that you can come

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back to your hometown and make jeans again. Jean day worked at the old

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factory for 17 years. I never thought a million years that I would

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ever come back. It is a pleasure to come into work every day.

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Entrepreneurs run on optimism. The unproven has to be tried. People

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think I'm crazy for trying it, but they are glad that we are trying it.

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These top and jeans have gone some way to saving the town, although

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they are hardly a replacement for what went before. That the people

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here can take pride again in the fact that these are made in Britain.

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Thank you, John, and best of luck to the factory. After did today, ?130

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for terror Edu jeans! A big thank you to Michael. Masters of Sex is on

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tonight. Ian McShane, Ed Byrne, Leo Sayer, Joan Collins, Harry Redknapp,

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all still to come this week. Let's all have a hard! See you later.

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