24/08/2012 The One Show


24/08/2012

Chris Evans and Alex Jones are joined by Benedict Cumberbatch and some Paralympic torchbearers. Plus, John Sergeant delves into Victorian gangs and Jay Rayner goes to the seaside.


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Good evening everybody. Welcome to the One Show. On my way to the do,

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and I thought I would host the show for a while. You look exsen

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particular but lovely. It is Alex Jones here. And Chris Evans. With

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days to go before the part of the Paralympics, tonight we're getting

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into the sporting spirit. Joining us is Iwan Thomas. Who we love,

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don't he. We have the torchbearers. And, this man... For London is

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about to cry out with hearts and soul. Let the Games commence.

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I love that bit. Let's enjoy the six syllables that are Benedict

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Cumberbach. That was great. A lot of fun to do.

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I was leaving the country to do a job, I told my friends and family,

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there is a message you might want to like to see. Unfortunately you

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weren't here to see. I missed so much of it, I saw it on America

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television, I was in New Orleans, doing a film with Steve McQueen,

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and it was, I was so proud, of our city, and our athlete.

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genuinely missed the Olympics, so you're going to make up with the

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Paralympics. What events do you want to see? All the track and

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field. That's my favourite. Iwan Thomas will inform you of other

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stuff like murder ball, in a moment, all night tonight, we're going to

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play a little thing which we're going to call, Cumberfact or

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Cumberfiction. Are you ready? Right. Shall we go

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first. So you've told the Readers Digest, you thought the last series

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of Downton Abbey, which people love, wasn't very good. Cumber fiction.

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Well it was about one aspect, comparing parades, with Downton

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Abbey, but we're different stories, there was one comparison with the

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use of war, I used language I shouldn't have used but I would

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never say about that in the series, my dad was in the Christmas special.

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It is good? It is all the success it is getting, and recognition in

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the States which is great. Were you taken out of context? It could have

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happened. It can't happen on this show, because we're live. I fell

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between two stools, don't tell me. It is impossible, can't happen on

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the One Show. Never any controversy on this show, all was fine. You're

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back with a new BBC drama that isn't sherlock and we'll hear about

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had that in a bit. We are esuperexcited with nor nail-biting

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sporting Olympics, with the Paralympics. This is nervous family

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Paralympics. This is nervous family They were close boys, always did

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things together. He had normal childhood, they lived a normal life.

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Olyi and Sam Behind are my two boys, and we hope they'll do well in the

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Paralympics Games in London. They're competing because they both

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have a condition a type of musclar dystrophy. It is where the muscles

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don't actually work properly, without Fatih and weakness there.

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We started swimming with Sam, just after a-year-old, because they

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advises us for therapy reasons, and for olyi, we did the same, we used

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to take him mother and toddler when he was young. Musclar disto havefy

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is degenerative, it is hard, you wouldn't be a mum and dad without

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having that feeling, of golyi, both boys with the same condition, but,

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you know, they've proved that they can do things with that condition

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and disability and they're not letting them stop them. They have

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the disability but they've overcome it and proud of it, when Sam won a

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gold medal in Beijing, we were extremely proud of him, he was only

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17, I'm pleased that Olly is going at that age, and we hope they'll

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To have two sons competing is an amazing feeling, though nerve

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wrecking and when we did go to watch them, I'll rather stay out of

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the way and watching behind. Terry, Powell, I'm mark and Dan's

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dad and I'm proud they're following in my footsteps. I'm Shelley Powell,

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both sons mark and Dan are visually compared athletes, they're fighting

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for Great Britain in the judo squad for Great Britain in the judo squad

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and compete next Friday. My sons are registered with the visually

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impaired and blind, through our family, we had a genetic disease in

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the back of the eye. When Terry used to go training, we used to go

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as a family, so they're aware what judo was, so I think it was matter

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of time they went into it themselves. It was only when MMarc

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got school age, he was cute who had glasses on for a couple of years,

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then they had the same condition, and a few years later Dan was the

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same. I'm proud of everything they do, and worked so hard. From

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children, everything they did, they gave 100%. All right, thanks for

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that. And Iwan Thomas is here. He knowss everything there is to know

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about the Olympics. Basically, I've done a series of back Paralympics

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show. I've got to try out the sports, like murder ball, for

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example, it is called wheelchair rugby, imagine a wheelchair, as you

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can see, a shopping trolley, it is organised violence, you got to get

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the ball through the owe pents and only Paralympics sport where you

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have a Formula One pit crew that weld your chair, it is like British

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Bulldog, were the biggest boys, it is the same in wheelchair, it is

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amazing, Britain are very good. We're ranked, fourth in the world,

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but recently we beat the second and third best team, Australia and

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Canada. We're up against Americans in the first round. How do you win?

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Do they score points like rugby? You got to get the ball across,

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there are tactics, there's another one gold ball, you've got blind

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folds, black out blind, it's a 4 K- Fed sin ball so you can hear it in

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the last minute, and they throw at you, you're in a big goal and you

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have to save it, you're launching it at each other, and they do crazy

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spin tech teex. They change the feature of gravity of the ball?

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keep the bell on the outside spin spining, so last minute, you have

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to dive. It is dangerous. How long is it?

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Half an hour. Is that going to be amazing. Technology we've got, I

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think people who are excited by the Olympics, normally the Paralympics

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has been the ugly sister coming along two weeks afterwards, no way,

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they've solid 2.2 million tickets, it will be huge. Are you hooked?

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Benedict. I'm there. Wheelchair racing, which I tried as

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well. I did a half marathon, the hardest thing was having to train

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with Dave Weir. He had an advantage? He is lighter and power

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to rate rasha, he can bench 140 kilograms, uphills he was pushing

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Dave is ranging, his range of ability, he is the best in the 100

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metre sprint. We have so many talent athletes. Although you have

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everything, does trying the sport give you a different perspective

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won't say I had loads of respect now, but now I have it. Aren't they

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doing well, I used to do say, but having spend time with them, they

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are professional athletes, who train harder than the able-bodied

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athletes. I represent them so much, what they've gone through, and the

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life storeics what put them in the a wheelchair. We've soldiers,

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coming back, changing their lives around and becoming athletes. It

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opens that door. You may think there is no sport for me, but there

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is. 12 days, it starts on Wednesday, the torch procession starts on

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Tuesday. You're working for Channel 4. I will be reporting. Very good.

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Thank you very much. Win or lose the dedication of all those taking

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part in the Olympics and Paralympics inspired our younger

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generation with a host of new deserved role models. Very

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different from a year ago when the rights from sparking so many

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negative headlines. But the darker side of youth culture was nothing

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new. Last year's rights shocked the country. One of the most disturbing

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elements was the age of the ring leaders. But violent youth culture

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is much older than that. It can be traced, back to these streets in

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Victorian times. By the 1870s, the Industrial Revolution, made

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Manchester the workshop of the world, abundant factory work put

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money in the pockets of men, and they spent some of it sharpening up

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their look. Andrew Davis from the University of Liverpool, has

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written by the troublesome trend seters. They wanted to look

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different, so they cultivated a style that made them stand out.

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They wore peaked caps, which they wore at a tilt and angle and

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distinctive hair cut, where short back and sides Boulogne fringe, a

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donkey fringe. The other thing is the bell bottomed trousers, these

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were very wide flares, they would round off the uniforms with brass

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tipped pointed clogs. The Universal, identified the young men as gang

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members and awarded themselves a nickname, skut letters, like modern

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gangs, with the uniform and name came territory, turf wars and

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violence. This joo this young man was the leader of the green gate

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skuters from Salford. That face is astonishingly familiar, which could

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imagine walking past him, through Manchester City centre today. You

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get the same feeling when you look at the different scuttleers, we

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think we know them. They would they afford this gear? This is something

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a young person would save up for over time. Their clothes were so

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important to them, as badge of status, they would money aside.

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Newspapers of the times, are full of accounts of vicious battles

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between gangs of scuttleiers. He said he was attacked by Callaghan,

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was fell by a blow a bar of iron, whilst lying on the ground he was

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kicked by others of the gang. But what they're trying do here is

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fighting, not actually killing each other are they? They're not looking

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to inflict fatal wounds but gain kueed yos, but showing they can

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scuttle better than anybody else in the city. Why man chest sner

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Manchester is the first industrial city in the world, the houses are

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overcrowded. Their lives are lived on the streets. And that's really

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where the spark for scuttleling came from. It looks similar to what

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people today as describe as respect culture. By the end of the century

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in slum areas like Salford, scuttleling lost its appeal. There

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was plenty of poverty but in this area, there was a beacon of hope,

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the Salford lads club. Still thriving today the club was

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established in the erm 20th century with a simple mission - to get

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young people off the streets and away from crime.

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Lesley homes has worked here for many years. This club was set

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newspaper August 1903, by these three gentlemen, who were wealthy

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businessmen, along with others, they want a better workforce. On

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the opening night there was more than 600 boys wanted to come in

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here. They offered music, arts and education. This was the motto, to

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"to brighten young lives and make good citizens". It is about getting

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everybody involved in the society. The intention was to make sure the

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gangs would fade away? Within a year, they had six football teams,

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cricket teams and all sorts of things. If you could engage them,

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you could socialise them and put them on a pathway. Getting

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teenagers, strange new race of people, doing something was a major

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step. It is believed this club keeps youngsters out of trouble.

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is very old-fashioned stuff, it is kids playing together working as a

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team. But across the country, clubs like this, have been in sharp

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decline for a long time, haven't they? It is something we lost in

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society, and this this has gooted lessons for everybody. Bored and

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potentially violent young people were given outlet's for their

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energies N sport and social clubs like this. We're bound to skrks

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could that be the answer, once again? Good question. Thank you

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very much John. Benedict let's talk about your big shiny new costume

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drama, it starts in about, an hour- and-a-half on BBC Two. It is called

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the parades end. At the heart is a love story? It is a triangular love

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story between a man who marries, a wonderful character assaulted

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Sylvia, and he is Christopher, and it testimony strange marriage, she

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plays out and is thoroughly scurrilous and scandalous, and has

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affairs, and basically tries to knock a reaction out of him, beyond

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what he is giving her, which is passive kindness and tolerance. The

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third party joins their lives, called, Valentine. Valentine. Well

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done. Well done, from Alex Jones. One up, and you immediately see

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they are like minds and like souls and there's this incredible

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connection, and because he is incredibly damagingly virtuous man

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he can't do anything about it, he sticks to the marriage vows, and

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about the torturous outcome. It is funny as well. You want to grab her

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and give her a kiss, this is you and Christopher being pompous.

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I see the Association of Domestic servants is against the insurance

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bill why would that be? Now is the chance to ask. Go on then. Well

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bridge jit. I'm sure I don't know Sir. I'm sure I do, it is because

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the national insurance bill violates the intimacy between the

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servant and their mistress. character, taking on the mother-in-

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law there? She represents her intelligence and knows Sylvia's

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married not to her intellectual equal. He knows he can make a point

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in front of her, and she will be fascinate, she is correcting the

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enclieck peeda Britanica, he's doing it to keep his head down.

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this a subplot between him and the morl? Not, Janet is stunning, but

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that wasn't an intentional subplot. You say she realises her daughter's

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married above herself Can I get her Does your mother-in-

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law say that about you. Not about that legislation no.

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appreciates him for who he is, and he sees the rifts. People are dying

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laughing in my ear. Rebecca, plays Sylvia is phenomenonal. She's a

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knockout. Now we've got a Cumberfact or Cumberfiction ready.

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You said, that you are so sick of people criticising you were Posh,

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that you were headingtor America for good? Cumber fiction. I've been

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lucky in my schooling and professional career, to have a huge

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amount of advantage, so I work hard to try and make the best of that. I

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have done that by playing a variety of roles. It is easy to say

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something and blow it up into a national debate, especially about

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class. It is an important debate and should be good. If somebody is

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seen to say something about oh us poor Posh people, immediately that

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will vilify me, I never said that. It was bizarre, yes. Taken out of

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context? I was out of the country, I got these texts and e-mails,

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there are for Posh, arguing and your name is following the argument

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through press and television. You're definitely not typecast as a

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costume type actor, you've done different things, you're in The

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Hobbit playing a dragen and Star Trek 2.

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Is space class snls The future is rid of all class. It is all about

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how fast your space ship is. Well, yeah. Who do you play in Star

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Trek 2? That person there. There's lots of fighting in it. It is

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different then to the Parade's End, you couldn't get more. There's not

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so much fighting in Parade's End. Verbal jousting. Having said that,

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there are obviously, a great swathe of the drama set in World War I,

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which is very extraordinary. And moving. But, yeah, not the kind of

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fighting you'll see in Star Trek. You get more brand new Cumberfact

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or Cumberfiction in Parade's End. Now, we've not seen Jay for a

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little while. As it is summer, sort of, we thought we'd send him to the

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seaside. Don't worry, we made him keep his clothes on. The sun is

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rising and the race is on. Just gone 5am and I'm on a tractor,

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going out of more comb bay sands, in search of one of Britain's

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greatest seaside creatures, they're out there, somewhere. We've got to

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get to the fishing grounds quickly, the tide is quickly. We only have

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half an hour. We're hunting for Morecambe Bay shrimp, trawling with

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tractors. Are we then going to drive off with

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these. Yes with these behind us, and these will cause a wave and the

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shrimps are in the sand and they jump in the net. With the net set

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the trawling can begin. But the rising tide isn't the only fracktor.

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The hardest part is the weather. When you get the raining, driving,

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sleet, It is not 9-5 job, is it? you go when the shrimps come.

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shrimp are best caught in late summer on a low tide. Whatever time

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of day that may be. Something calm be about this, you

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have the engine and lap of the water. And behind us back there,

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hope three, we're drawing in a harvest of lovely Morecambe Bay

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shrimps. It is easy to forget we're miles

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from shore. We've been trawling for 20 minutes now and it is time to

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bring in the catch. So. There it is. The lovely little brown shrimps of

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Morecambe Bay. The tide has tumped we need to leave the fishing

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grounds. Micheal has been tractor trawling for two decades, his

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father started 50 years ago, with a horse and kart.

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They used to call the more comb sands the gold mine. Fishermen

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would make a week's wages in one day. But the tide has turned on the

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shriching industry. Shrimp stocks are declineing. Today's catches is

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pitiful, worth about �30. You have half a box and a good box of place.

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It is hard core way to make a living, not a route to great riches

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and wealth. No. That's why there's no-one left.

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Micheal and his dad are part what is part of a dying tradition. When

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they stop doing it, it doesn't look like there's going to be anybody

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else t would be a shame because we're going to lose what is one of

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Britain's greatest delicacys, they're fabulous. But if there's

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nobody to catch them, we won't eat them. Back on dry land and the

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shrich are boiled for ten minutes. They've been in for four or five

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minutes, and starting to turn the colour, they're going to brown.

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They're cooled on racks just as they have been for centuries n the

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past they've been peeled by hand, fiddly and time-consuming job.

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you want me to pour them in. That's changed in the modern poting

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factory, the shrin are sorted automatically and peeled by this

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remarkable machine. It sucks the shrimp up, sends it down the tubes,

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and actually takes one side off, and the other with the pinchers.

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The peeled shrimp are cooked in butter and special mix of spices

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passed down through the generations. Do you know the recipe. Go on you

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can tell me No. After chilling the shrimp are potted and sealed as is

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traditional, with a lair of soft butter, it keeps them delicious for

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up to 12 days. They're a delicate flavour, spicey, you can eat them

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hot or room temperature. I prefer to warm them and have them with hot

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toast, so the butter soaks through. There is curiously heroic, as so

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hard won from the treacherous sands of more comb bay, rushing against

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the tides to get them in. And they're so tiny, delicate and

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subtle. They're one of the great regional foods. Now, over the next

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few days, four cauldrons will be letting England, Northern Ireland

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Scotland and Wales, ahead of the Paralympics Opening Ceremony. There

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was a special event to mark the start of a weekend of similar

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celebrationness Belfast, Edinburgh, and Cardiff. At stock Mandeville,

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580 torchbearers will start their relay to the Olympic Stadium, so

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give them some support. For details, go go to this website. Chris is

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with torchbearers, over there. Them are here, with a shiny new

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torch. But first, Scouts, Lin, this is Lin, she was given a week to

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arrange and Scouts, to go Snowdon This is high team, we were

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accompanied by a Lord Coe as well, who came with us, and he was cheeky

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chappy up there. And we walked in Snowdon and in adverse conditions,

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these wonderful young people that I have in my care, lit a flame. The

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flame was used to light the torch. Which was then held up on the top

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of stho done, so we started the yourny of the Welsh flame. The guys

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then lited their miner's latches, from our fire, and carried the

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miners' lamps down the hill, and now in Cardiff. Your scouting group

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is girls, boys, disabled and non- disabled. You have your flint do.

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It live. Pressure' on, what a bright spark. And Ellie, what was

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your job? I piled the sticks on top of the kindling and kept the fire

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going. It is not easy? The wind was very strong. Well done the kouts

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everybody. Thank you very much. My friendship knot, and now we have

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members of the blind women's cricketers, blind and partially

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sighted. Diane and Danielle, and Sarah and Teresa. Good evening,

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welcome to the programme. How blind are you? Total, nothing. And you

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still play cricket? Yes. When I'm at the batting crease, I stand and

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wait and listen to the bowler, when he shouts play and throws the ball,

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I go on the one knee and whack it. That's amazing. I can see it and I

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can't see the ball. You're an all- rounder. Tell us the greatest

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moment on the cricket pitch? bowled eight major player out.

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Sarah, tell us about how you got involved with the team? I got

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involved with cricket through cooking for change, and it went

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from there, went through the young person's programme, and then they

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introduced me to ladies team which was setting up, and from there,

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getting better and better. You have the guide dogs here, do they get on

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the pitch? No. But maybe next year. Sarah, sorry, you're with us as

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well, tell us when you're taking the torch away? On Wednesday

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morning, just after.30, we will be carrying it past Lords. - Lords.

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And we need to hear everyone out there. You've just woken up a man

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at my feet. That's fine. Apologies, we have to move on. Don't miss

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these guys, you have to turn out for the torch. We have Louise and

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Ian and Will. How did you get involved? Involved through by my

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dad and swimming coach. So I got nominate. Bill, you're amazing,

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generally? Jiefplt great. Round of applause for all the torchbearers.

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Benedict, just before we go. Fans out there, are desperate to know

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what will happen in the third series, sherlock, he tumbled to his

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death, are you a ghost? How long have I got? 20 seconds. Well the I

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think that is going... Is something, I can't talk about it. He is back.

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Sherlock is back everybody. And if you want to look at Benedict, you

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have 90 minutes, to see him in the first episode in the first costume

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Joining Chris Evans and Alex Jones is Sherlock star, Benedict Cumberbatch, who talks about his brand new BBC costume drama Parade's End and his upcoming roles in Star Trek 2 and the Hobbit. There are inspirational stories behind some of our Paralympic hopefuls and some of those who have been chosen to carry the Paralympic torch are in the studio. Plus, John Sergeant delves into Victorian gangs and Jay Rayner goes to the seaside to catch a fishy foody treat.


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