25/01/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

Tonight we're celebrating two sitcom characters from either side

Hartley and Louis Lloyd Pack will be telling us what it was like growing

up with Roger, who played the immortal Trigger.

My name's not Dave, my name's Rodney. I thought it was Dave. It's

Rodney. Are you sure? APPLAUSE

And we're going to meet one of the friends who made this

American sitcom one of my all-time favourite TV shows.

I appreciate you getting me the casting. I thought he'd love it. The

kids book with the Velvetine rabbit. The rabbit was brown and white. It

was either a pink bunny or no bunny at all. Always no bunny at all! We

can't believe it because Matthew Perry is on our sofa tonight.

Welcome, welcome. Thank you for showing a clip of me in a pink bunny

outfit. It's one of our favourites. So we'll talk about your brand-new

West End play which sounds absolutely fantastic a bit later on,

but we have to talk about this kind of but not really Friends reunion

that happened last night. A tribute to James Burrows who directed it and

lots of other sitcoms. What happened then? There was a tribute to him and

the Friends cast got together to show up to that tribute. But I was

here rehearsing my play so I couldn't go. So I did a little taped

interview and I introduced them. Very nice. I was a part of it but I

couldn't be there because I was rehearsing. Fair enough. Busy man.

There was a photograph of lots of stars that turned up there. All your

friends from the past. Look, I'm not in that picture! No. No, we are

going to try and get a screen grab of that message, but when you see

those folk there, does that give a little sparkle and do you think, do

you know what, there's life in the old Friends bunch yet? Yes, I love

all those guys. There's a chance? Always a possibility. It's talked

about a lot. I think the actors would maybe be into doing it. I'm

maybe the number one Friends fan. In the world. Really? Maybe. I sort of

think it was so good, do we want to mess with it. That's the problem,

you see. Because it ended on a very high note. Very high note. So if we

made something that was crap. If you are not feeling it... It would ruin

the memory of the show. Then there's the argument that you don't know if

you don't try it. We've held off quite a while. Then it could be...

Gosh, I'm confused, I don't know! We'll Central Park it.

From next Monday if you are a landlord who lets a room

to an illegal immigrant you could face a heavy fine.

Nick Wallis joined immigration officers as they prepared

for the change by raiding properties of landlords that they suspect had

The authorities have had a tip-off that Mr Might be illegal immigrants

living in one of the addresses down this road.

Is this as do house? It is, yeah... Look at this wiring. Every room is

crammed with beds. You wouldn't expect to see this in a leaf yes

suburb in West London. Look at this. It's just a lean-to that's been

converted. What are we looking at here? Looks like a Portakabin at the

side of the house. The landlord has a lot to answer for. You could

fairly describe this as a slum. I wouldn't know from it the outside,

but inside, this suburban house is jam packed with tenants. All paying

rent, not for a room, but for a bed space. I've been told bay resident

there are 70 people living in this property. 70 people. And they are

all paying ?70 a week rent. That's ?4,900 a week to the land lor.

Unbelievable. The Liang landlord later told us there were no more

than 40 people staying and that they pay varying amounts in rent. He also

said he'd made improvements to the property since our visit. Today's

raid isn't about the landlord or how much his tenants pay, but rather who

those tenants are. Immigration... Show me ID. ID? Driving licence.

Passport? Where are you fro? You don't have your bus ticket to show

me? A failed asylum seekers from Bosnia illegally in the UK. He was

still able to find somewhere to rent even though he was not allowed in.

Why come to England? Like everybody coming in England. Did the landlord

ask you where you were fro? He discuss me where is me from Bosnia

OK, blah blah blah, you have to pay the rent, blah blah blah, you will

pay the rent and sleep on this. No-one knows for sure how many

illegal immigrants are in the UK. And while Marim is arrested, the

land lor currently faces no sanctions. But that all changes next

week with what's being dubbed the right-to-rent law.

All landlords in England will have to check that their tenants have the

right to live in the UK otherwise they could be in for a heavy fine.

The Law is designed to make it harder for illegal immigrants to

stay in the country. Sarah Burton is one of the immigration officers on

today's raid. Do you think the new law would have made any difference

to him being here? Finding it hard to find accommodation will make it

more difficult for them to remain here illegally without coming to our

attention. In all, three young people are detained in this raid,

including a woman living in an adjoining property. They'll be taken

to an immigration holding centre and face being deported to their home

countries. No action was taken against any other residents. You

know what you are doing, but will the new law transfer a lot of your

responsibilities on to landlords? We are asking them to conduct an easy

check about their immigration status. We are not asking them to be

experts and if they can demonstrate they have made the checks, they

won't be fined. The new law has its critics. John Sparks from Crisis

fears the right-to-rent law will push more people into homelessness.

The purpose of this legislation as I understand it is to stop landlords

taking on illegal immigrants. So what is wrong with it? That is the

purpose and I have a great deal of sympathy with the need to do that.

What is wrong with it and what our concern is, is that this impacts on

everybody, not just people who should about be here, it impacts on

British citizens. If you are homeless and you are trying to get

somewhere to live and someone's asking you for a whole list of very

formal documents and you can't get your hands on those immediately,

someone else is going to take the tenancy, you are still going to be

homeless. The three arrested face an uncertain future, but will the new

right-to-rent law be an effective deterrent for them and those who

want to stay in Britain illegally? James Brokenshire, the immigration

minister is here now. That is an England-only policy, just

to be clear. But as we heard, 70 people living in those conditions

and many viewers will be wondering, why isn't the landlord being

prosecuted as well as the tenants then? They were shocking pictures we

saw on that film and there are investigations ongoing with the

local authority and other agencies because it's precisely thissish you

of rogue landlords that we are also going after. There are other

measures that we'll be introducing for the most serious of cases, if

you are renting illegally, there is a law going out to create criminal

penalties. What kind? Could be imprisonment for up to five years

for the most serious of cases if you are renting out to someone without

the right to be in this country. It's about making sure you have the

right checks but equally, on horrible cases like that, really

seeing how we can work together with immigration enforcement, with the

local council, to go after the rogue landlords. There are some critics

out there who're saying that you are going to try and get landlords to do

the work of the Home Office here, James? The checks are very simple,

as we have seen on the film. It's not about trying to catch landlords

out. In many ways, a lot of landlords are already doing the

checks about identifying who they are renting out property to,

building on that, looking at simple identification documents like

passports, possibly driving licences, plus a letter from the

local council or someone along those lines that when you apply for a

passport. So it's keeping it really simple but making sure that

properties that are being let out are prioritised for people with the

right to be in this country rather than without the right to be in this

country. Why didn't you show him in a pink bunny suit? ! We were going

to, but we thought it might be too much.

LAUGHTER It doesn't seem fair. That's a

different show! There was a point that Crisis made in that film about

the fact that non-illegal immigrants may get caught up in this whole

saga, so what would you say about that? We have evaluated this. It

started off in the West Midlands. We did a pilot there and there was no

indication that homelessness was being caused. Indeed we are focussed

on this, we have a panel of experts, including some charities. It's

something we are going to continue to focus on as the scheme gets

rolled out to England from the 1st February and obviously the simple

advice and guidance that's out there on the Government website.

Thank you so much. We will get you a pink bunny suit if you want us to! ?

Friends Reunited, one of the first social networking sites,

which allows you search for people from your past,

And while it's concept doesn't seem revolutionary anymore,

when it started, it had the power to change peoples' lives.

I'm Julie Pankhurst. I'm Steven Pankhurst. I had the idea of this

because I wanted to get in touch with an old school friend. The

website took off in the space of a couple of months to become one of

the top websites in the whole of the country. At its height, there was

between 10 million and 15 members, people were getting in touch with

old frames which led to marriages and babies being born and then of

course, the downside of that is, we got blamed for a lot of divorce.

There are other stories about people finding their birth parents and lots

of stories of long lost family members getting back together as

well. I'm James van Dijk. I grew up in

Bedfordshire, I grew up in Bedford. After the family fragmented, I went

to live in Devon. I'm Sarah, I knew I was adopted from a very young age.

As I grew older, I decided once and for all I was going to really

research my birth family history. When you are at school,

especialfully a boy's school, you have strong bonds. As you grow up,

you get jobs and stuff, you lose track of people and I was in the

library one day and I was like, oh, Friends Reunited, I saw a link on

the computer and I thought, I want to see what so-and-so is doing and I

want to look up my mates. The first year I went on Friends Reunited was

2001, I found my half sister Debra and in one of the conversations she

said to me, we must find James and I said, who is James and she said,

well that is our little brother and I said, I didn't know we had one.

The next afternoon I got logged on, got nothing from school friends but

then a message from this woman who said, I think we've got the same

mother and I was like, she's obviously crackers. Some people

think he's my boyfriend and think, who is Sarah going out with now, you

know. Jocking aside, if you are looking for some physical

characteristic, you won't find it. But we started talking and we ended

up brother and sister. You end up with what you didn't bargain for.

She's non-returnable! Carol was my best friend. I think we used to walk

to school or cycle to school but unfortunately, she was one that I

did lose touch with. So when I heard about the Friends Reunited site, I

put Carol's name in and then a short time after, I had an e-mail from

her. We arranged to meet up in Stamford. I saw somebody walking

towards me smiling at me so I got up and, as I walked towards her, she

said "Carolyn, my lovely friend" and she kissed and hugged me and that

was it, it was just lovely to see her again. She looked really well.

She was very ill actually at the time. It was cancer and that was the

last time that I ever saw her. Thanks to the Friends Reunited.

Without them, I would never have seen her again. It's incredible to

think that my daughter, Amber is now 16. After we sold Friends Reunited

in 2005, it changed hands. I took it back two years ago and realised

recently that we couldn't do much more with it. The Internet is so

easy to find people. Friends Reunited isn't needed any more.

Years from now, we will be looking for each other from when we were on

the BBC. But Matthew, I am sure lots of

people get in touch with you. Have you lost touch with anybody and got

back in contact with them? Actually, there is somebody in London that I

got in contact with, my buddy Chris, who I have known since the third

grade. We are now hanging out, which is nice. That is good, because you

have lots of time in London. You are here until May the 14th. So it is

good to have a friend. You have written this new play, The End Of

Longing, about four friends. It is not just friendship, it is about the

complexities of friendship. Yeah, it is a play about four people, sort of

the Friends generation, people in their 30s and 40s, sort of longing

for love and relationships. It is about four pretty broken people,

trying to fix themselves in order to find love. You have written lots of

things in the past, but this is your debut as a playwright. It is the

first thing I have written by myself. I have written with a

partner before, TV shows. The odd couple that I am doing in the

States, I co-wrote the first episode, but this is the first thing

I wrote myself. And how did you fall upon this storyline? I am not sure.

I just started writing and then didn't stop. The notes we had said

that you wrote it in an extremely short space of time. Like ten hours?

Not ten hours. That would have made for a very bad play. It was ten

days. But I have been rewriting it for about a year. You have acted in

the West End before, but this is the first play you have written. Which

of those firsts is the most nerve-wracking? I am very nervous

about opening night of this play, because I am starring in it and I

wrote it, so I am wearing two hats and I'm very interested in helping

people like it. So the first night on for breathe second, our preview

night, it is the first time we go in front of an audience and I am

nervous about that. But which part of the whole process have you

enjoyed most? It has been fun watching the other actors do the

words that I wrote. That has been fun, and we have a talented group of

people in the play. There is one. You say that you play, not yourself,

but an exaggerated version of yourself. Which qualities have you

taken from you and put into the play? Well, I play a drunk in the

play. And it has been well documented that I have had my issues

in the past. But it is a different type of drunk. And it is an

exaggerated form of myself. It is not autobiographical. There I am.

Look how good a time I am having. And what do you hope people take

from all of this? Display came from somewhere, you have put it on, you

want people to see it in London. It sounds cliched, but I hope people

laugh and cry at the play. There are some poignant moments in it and

funny moments, and I hope they have a range of emotions and leave the

theatre talking about it. Is it one of those where you will not know

whether to laugh or not because of the tragedy within it? Well,

hopefully, you will know when to laugh. And hopefully, you will know

when to cry. Well, it is on from February the 2nd. And you are going

to hang out with your mate in London. We are going to have fun. I

am going to go on the London Eye. Let me tell you, London dungeon.

That is where to go. That sounds very naughty. I don't work for them,

but it is a good day out. Quite scary. It is not the dungeon you

think it is. On the other hand, butterfly world, just outside the

M25, is worth a visit. The End Of Longing opens on the second at the

Playhouse Theatre in London. What did you think when you walked into

it? I thought it was big. And I guess you have not moved in yet? No,

we moved in on Saturday. We wish you all the best.

Now, to my, we will be introducing Mathew Tait Only Fools And Horses

and the character Trigger, played by Roger Lloyd Pack. But now let's

introduce you to his sons, with memories of growing up with their

dad. Hi, I am heartily Lloyd Pack. I am

Louis. Our dad was Roger Lloyd Pack, best known for his role as

triggering Only Fools And Horses. Nice and cool, you know what I mean?

The vigour of deadly. In the great wind, there was just when. Trigger

was a lovable buffoon. But there was definitely more Trigger in him, not

in terms of being stupid, he was really bright, but he could be in

his own world at times. That was very gentle and open-minded. He had

his complexities as well, which I guess everyone has. Dad went to

boarding school. I think he had quite a bad time there. He hated

getting sent away. I always had the feeling my dad was happiest when

playing the piano. If he was stressed or angry, it felt like a

release for my dad to be at the piano, singing a song. My dad was

always healthy and looked after himself, so it came out of the blue

when he suddenly fell ill. It was a shock to us all but we knew that

pancreatic cancer did not have great survival rates. So it was bleak from

the start. He put a brave face on it. You would not have guessed he

was arranging his own funeral, he was bubbling with life. Following on

from the musical performances at my dad's funeral, me and my mum decided

to make an album as a tribute to my dad, using our lyrics. It felt

helpful to write my feelings down and talk about my memories of my

dad. So we created an album called 16 sunsets. It will be a fundraiser

for pancreatic cancer. There is a track on the album called Tottenham

about the memories of going to the games with him. White Hart Lane,

settled in blue seats. Our dad was a massive Tottenham fan. We would get

the junior Spurs magazine and we used to read the player interviews.

There were questions like, what is your pre-match meal? What is your

favourite TV programme? And one of them was Only Fools And Horses. At

the time, he was the club captain of Spurs. He was a club legend. I

remember signing autographs and seeing you coming up, and looking up

and seeing Trigger, Roger. It was amazing. Why do you call me Dave? My

name is not Dave, my name is Rodney. I thought it was Dave. It is Rodney.

Are you sure? Positive. Roger really brought that character to life. His

timing, expressions, talent. Well, you live and learn. Meeting him, you

expect to meet Trigger, because that was how you saw Roger. Of course, in

reality, Roger himself loved the theatre. The work on Shakespeare,

that was where his enjoyment came from. We became friends. We spent so

much time together, talking about mainly Tottenham. He had a real

passion for the club. He came on the pitch a few times I didn't he? You

would have people around you, shouting, Trigger! Very surreal.

That was when we went to LA, to visit our sister in the Lee. My dad

was originally married to a lady named Sheila, and then they had a

daughter called Gemili Lloyd -- Emily Lloyd. She is an actor. She

was like the supercool older sister. She had a huge python snake in her

flat. It was like a big road trip. We started off in a league and then

went through California, all the way to Las Vegas. And we were driving

through death Valley, and then our dad decided to crack an egg on the

bonnet of a car to see if it fried. He loved to do those kind of boyish

pranks. That was his outlook on life, to remain young and never lose

that inner child, I guess. Thank you, boys, a touching film.

Make the most of life while you have got it. I disagree. Go on! Just

kidding. Bizarre! Anyway, Only Fools And Horses was an incredible sitcom

for us in the UK. What did you watch? Are used to watch a show

called happy days. I used to love that. Who was your favourite

character? The funds. He has been here many times. He is a great guy.

We are going to play some table tennis. I want to talk about your

dad first. Oh, sorry! My dad is an actor, yes. He is probably the

reason I am an actor. We did a film together called fools Rush in, where

he played my dad. He was most famous for being the old spice Guy, so he

was a very handsome man. He used to be a model. He was a model and a

singer and an actor. Did you like working with him? Yes, he was

hilarious. He is coming to the opening night. 2nd of February. Now,

what were you going to say? We are going to play something pop. We have

it on good authority that you really enjoy this. I do enjoy playing table

tennis. We know this, because a couple of years ago, Michael Sheen

came on the show. And he said so. I played table tennis with Chandler

from Friends. How showbiz is that? Who won? He beat me, but he has a

robot at home, a machine that plays table tennis with him. I do have a

machine. My goodness! Well, you also have a machine here. It is me. Well,

it was going to be Matt, but Matt had a sheep related injury over the

weekend. That begs questions! Well, I was doing some pre-lambing

checks... Anyway. It is a long story. I have some questions here.

Shall we play while you ask questions? If that is all right. Off

we go. Who is the most influential person in your career? Woody Allen.

Why? He is a wonderful writer and director and I love his movies. Do

you give money to beggars? Do I give money to Vegas? Beggars. People

asking for money on the street. Oh, yes! Is it true that the writers of

Friends make sure each character have the same number of jokes using

a pie chart? They did have a pie chart. Where was it? In the writers'

room. What was the last you read? It was this psychopath test. How would

you rate that? It was a great book by Jon Ronson. What is the

accomplishment that you are most proud of? Other than this ping-pong

game? Apart from this. Probably being involved in Friends. On that

note, is it true that Chandler was originally going to be gay? That is

not true. I am glad, because I loved him and moniker together. Michael

Keaton is one of your acting heroes. Can you do an impression of him? I

can. This is him doing just about anything. And that is all we have

time for tonight. Don't forget that Matthew's played, The End Of

Longing, opens on the 2nd of February at the Playhouse Theatre in

London. If you are celibate in Burns Night tonight, have a great time.

That was a great game. You were a good player. Tomorrow, we are joined

by Hyacinth "Bouquet" herself, Patricia Routledge. See you then.

Good night!