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Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

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Tonight we're celebrating two sitcom characters from either side

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Hartley and Louis Lloyd Pack will be telling us what it was like growing

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up with Roger, who played the immortal Trigger.

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My name's not Dave, my name's Rodney. I thought it was Dave. It's

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Rodney. Are you sure? APPLAUSE

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And we're going to meet one of the friends who made this

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American sitcom one of my all-time favourite TV shows.

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I appreciate you getting me the casting. I thought he'd love it. The

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kids book with the Velvetine rabbit. The rabbit was brown and white. It

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was either a pink bunny or no bunny at all. Always no bunny at all! We

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can't believe it because Matthew Perry is on our sofa tonight.

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Welcome, welcome. Thank you for showing a clip of me in a pink bunny

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outfit. It's one of our favourites. So we'll talk about your brand-new

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West End play which sounds absolutely fantastic a bit later on,

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but we have to talk about this kind of but not really Friends reunion

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that happened last night. A tribute to James Burrows who directed it and

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lots of other sitcoms. What happened then? There was a tribute to him and

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the Friends cast got together to show up to that tribute. But I was

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here rehearsing my play so I couldn't go. So I did a little taped

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interview and I introduced them. Very nice. I was a part of it but I

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couldn't be there because I was rehearsing. Fair enough. Busy man.

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There was a photograph of lots of stars that turned up there. All your

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friends from the past. Look, I'm not in that picture! No. No, we are

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going to try and get a screen grab of that message, but when you see

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those folk there, does that give a little sparkle and do you think, do

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you know what, there's life in the old Friends bunch yet? Yes, I love

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all those guys. There's a chance? Always a possibility. It's talked

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about a lot. I think the actors would maybe be into doing it. I'm

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maybe the number one Friends fan. In the world. Really? Maybe. I sort of

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think it was so good, do we want to mess with it. That's the problem,

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you see. Because it ended on a very high note. Very high note. So if we

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made something that was crap. If you are not feeling it... It would ruin

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the memory of the show. Then there's the argument that you don't know if

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you don't try it. We've held off quite a while. Then it could be...

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Gosh, I'm confused, I don't know! We'll Central Park it.

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From next Monday if you are a landlord who lets a room

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to an illegal immigrant you could face a heavy fine.

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Nick Wallis joined immigration officers as they prepared

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for the change by raiding properties of landlords that they suspect had

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The authorities have had a tip-off that Mr Might be illegal immigrants

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living in one of the addresses down this road.

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Is this as do house? It is, yeah... Look at this wiring. Every room is

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crammed with beds. You wouldn't expect to see this in a leaf yes

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suburb in West London. Look at this. It's just a lean-to that's been

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converted. What are we looking at here? Looks like a Portakabin at the

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side of the house. The landlord has a lot to answer for. You could

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fairly describe this as a slum. I wouldn't know from it the outside,

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but inside, this suburban house is jam packed with tenants. All paying

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rent, not for a room, but for a bed space. I've been told bay resident

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there are 70 people living in this property. 70 people. And they are

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all paying ?70 a week rent. That's ?4,900 a week to the land lor.

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Unbelievable. The Liang landlord later told us there were no more

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than 40 people staying and that they pay varying amounts in rent. He also

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said he'd made improvements to the property since our visit. Today's

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raid isn't about the landlord or how much his tenants pay, but rather who

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those tenants are. Immigration... Show me ID. ID? Driving licence.

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Passport? Where are you fro? You don't have your bus ticket to show

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me? A failed asylum seekers from Bosnia illegally in the UK. He was

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still able to find somewhere to rent even though he was not allowed in.

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Why come to England? Like everybody coming in England. Did the landlord

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ask you where you were fro? He discuss me where is me from Bosnia

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OK, blah blah blah, you have to pay the rent, blah blah blah, you will

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pay the rent and sleep on this. No-one knows for sure how many

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illegal immigrants are in the UK. And while Marim is arrested, the

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land lor currently faces no sanctions. But that all changes next

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week with what's being dubbed the right-to-rent law.

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All landlords in England will have to check that their tenants have the

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right to live in the UK otherwise they could be in for a heavy fine.

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The Law is designed to make it harder for illegal immigrants to

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stay in the country. Sarah Burton is one of the immigration officers on

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today's raid. Do you think the new law would have made any difference

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to him being here? Finding it hard to find accommodation will make it

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more difficult for them to remain here illegally without coming to our

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attention. In all, three young people are detained in this raid,

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including a woman living in an adjoining property. They'll be taken

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to an immigration holding centre and face being deported to their home

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countries. No action was taken against any other residents. You

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know what you are doing, but will the new law transfer a lot of your

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responsibilities on to landlords? We are asking them to conduct an easy

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check about their immigration status. We are not asking them to be

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experts and if they can demonstrate they have made the checks, they

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won't be fined. The new law has its critics. John Sparks from Crisis

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fears the right-to-rent law will push more people into homelessness.

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The purpose of this legislation as I understand it is to stop landlords

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taking on illegal immigrants. So what is wrong with it? That is the

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purpose and I have a great deal of sympathy with the need to do that.

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What is wrong with it and what our concern is, is that this impacts on

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everybody, not just people who should about be here, it impacts on

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British citizens. If you are homeless and you are trying to get

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somewhere to live and someone's asking you for a whole list of very

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formal documents and you can't get your hands on those immediately,

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someone else is going to take the tenancy, you are still going to be

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homeless. The three arrested face an uncertain future, but will the new

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right-to-rent law be an effective deterrent for them and those who

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want to stay in Britain illegally? James Brokenshire, the immigration

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minister is here now. That is an England-only policy, just

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to be clear. But as we heard, 70 people living in those conditions

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and many viewers will be wondering, why isn't the landlord being

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prosecuted as well as the tenants then? They were shocking pictures we

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saw on that film and there are investigations ongoing with the

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local authority and other agencies because it's precisely thissish you

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of rogue landlords that we are also going after. There are other

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measures that we'll be introducing for the most serious of cases, if

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you are renting illegally, there is a law going out to create criminal

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penalties. What kind? Could be imprisonment for up to five years

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for the most serious of cases if you are renting out to someone without

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the right to be in this country. It's about making sure you have the

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right checks but equally, on horrible cases like that, really

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seeing how we can work together with immigration enforcement, with the

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local council, to go after the rogue landlords. There are some critics

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out there who're saying that you are going to try and get landlords to do

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the work of the Home Office here, James? The checks are very simple,

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as we have seen on the film. It's not about trying to catch landlords

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out. In many ways, a lot of landlords are already doing the

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checks about identifying who they are renting out property to,

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building on that, looking at simple identification documents like

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passports, possibly driving licences, plus a letter from the

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local council or someone along those lines that when you apply for a

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passport. So it's keeping it really simple but making sure that

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properties that are being let out are prioritised for people with the

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right to be in this country rather than without the right to be in this

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country. Why didn't you show him in a pink bunny suit? ! We were going

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to, but we thought it might be too much.

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LAUGHTER It doesn't seem fair. That's a

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different show! There was a point that Crisis made in that film about

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the fact that non-illegal immigrants may get caught up in this whole

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saga, so what would you say about that? We have evaluated this. It

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started off in the West Midlands. We did a pilot there and there was no

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indication that homelessness was being caused. Indeed we are focussed

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on this, we have a panel of experts, including some charities. It's

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something we are going to continue to focus on as the scheme gets

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rolled out to England from the 1st February and obviously the simple

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advice and guidance that's out there on the Government website.

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Thank you so much. We will get you a pink bunny suit if you want us to! ?

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Friends Reunited, one of the first social networking sites,

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which allows you search for people from your past,

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And while it's concept doesn't seem revolutionary anymore,

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when it started, it had the power to change peoples' lives.

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I'm Julie Pankhurst. I'm Steven Pankhurst. I had the idea of this

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because I wanted to get in touch with an old school friend. The

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website took off in the space of a couple of months to become one of

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the top websites in the whole of the country. At its height, there was

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between 10 million and 15 members, people were getting in touch with

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old frames which led to marriages and babies being born and then of

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course, the downside of that is, we got blamed for a lot of divorce.

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There are other stories about people finding their birth parents and lots

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of stories of long lost family members getting back together as

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well. I'm James van Dijk. I grew up in

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Bedfordshire, I grew up in Bedford. After the family fragmented, I went

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to live in Devon. I'm Sarah, I knew I was adopted from a very young age.

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As I grew older, I decided once and for all I was going to really

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research my birth family history. When you are at school,

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especialfully a boy's school, you have strong bonds. As you grow up,

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you get jobs and stuff, you lose track of people and I was in the

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library one day and I was like, oh, Friends Reunited, I saw a link on

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the computer and I thought, I want to see what so-and-so is doing and I

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want to look up my mates. The first year I went on Friends Reunited was

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2001, I found my half sister Debra and in one of the conversations she

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said to me, we must find James and I said, who is James and she said,

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well that is our little brother and I said, I didn't know we had one.

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The next afternoon I got logged on, got nothing from school friends but

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then a message from this woman who said, I think we've got the same

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mother and I was like, she's obviously crackers. Some people

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think he's my boyfriend and think, who is Sarah going out with now, you

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know. Jocking aside, if you are looking for some physical

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characteristic, you won't find it. But we started talking and we ended

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up brother and sister. You end up with what you didn't bargain for.

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She's non-returnable! Carol was my best friend. I think we used to walk

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to school or cycle to school but unfortunately, she was one that I

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did lose touch with. So when I heard about the Friends Reunited site, I

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put Carol's name in and then a short time after, I had an e-mail from

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her. We arranged to meet up in Stamford. I saw somebody walking

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towards me smiling at me so I got up and, as I walked towards her, she

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said "Carolyn, my lovely friend" and she kissed and hugged me and that

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was it, it was just lovely to see her again. She looked really well.

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She was very ill actually at the time. It was cancer and that was the

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last time that I ever saw her. Thanks to the Friends Reunited.

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Without them, I would never have seen her again. It's incredible to

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think that my daughter, Amber is now 16. After we sold Friends Reunited

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in 2005, it changed hands. I took it back two years ago and realised

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recently that we couldn't do much more with it. The Internet is so

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easy to find people. Friends Reunited isn't needed any more.

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Years from now, we will be looking for each other from when we were on

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the BBC. But Matthew, I am sure lots of

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people get in touch with you. Have you lost touch with anybody and got

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back in contact with them? Actually, there is somebody in London that I

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got in contact with, my buddy Chris, who I have known since the third

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grade. We are now hanging out, which is nice. That is good, because you

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have lots of time in London. You are here until May the 14th. So it is

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good to have a friend. You have written this new play, The End Of

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Longing, about four friends. It is not just friendship, it is about the

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complexities of friendship. Yeah, it is a play about four people, sort of

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the Friends generation, people in their 30s and 40s, sort of longing

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for love and relationships. It is about four pretty broken people,

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trying to fix themselves in order to find love. You have written lots of

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things in the past, but this is your debut as a playwright. It is the

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first thing I have written by myself. I have written with a

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partner before, TV shows. The odd couple that I am doing in the

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States, I co-wrote the first episode, but this is the first thing

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I wrote myself. And how did you fall upon this storyline? I am not sure.

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I just started writing and then didn't stop. The notes we had said

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that you wrote it in an extremely short space of time. Like ten hours?

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Not ten hours. That would have made for a very bad play. It was ten

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days. But I have been rewriting it for about a year. You have acted in

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the West End before, but this is the first play you have written. Which

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of those firsts is the most nerve-wracking? I am very nervous

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about opening night of this play, because I am starring in it and I

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wrote it, so I am wearing two hats and I'm very interested in helping

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people like it. So the first night on for breathe second, our preview

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night, it is the first time we go in front of an audience and I am

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nervous about that. But which part of the whole process have you

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enjoyed most? It has been fun watching the other actors do the

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words that I wrote. That has been fun, and we have a talented group of

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people in the play. There is one. You say that you play, not yourself,

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but an exaggerated version of yourself. Which qualities have you

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taken from you and put into the play? Well, I play a drunk in the

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play. And it has been well documented that I have had my issues

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in the past. But it is a different type of drunk. And it is an

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exaggerated form of myself. It is not autobiographical. There I am.

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Look how good a time I am having. And what do you hope people take

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from all of this? Display came from somewhere, you have put it on, you

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want people to see it in London. It sounds cliched, but I hope people

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laugh and cry at the play. There are some poignant moments in it and

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funny moments, and I hope they have a range of emotions and leave the

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theatre talking about it. Is it one of those where you will not know

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whether to laugh or not because of the tragedy within it? Well,

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hopefully, you will know when to laugh. And hopefully, you will know

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when to cry. Well, it is on from February the 2nd. And you are going

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to hang out with your mate in London. We are going to have fun. I

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am going to go on the London Eye. Let me tell you, London dungeon.

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That is where to go. That sounds very naughty. I don't work for them,

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but it is a good day out. Quite scary. It is not the dungeon you

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think it is. On the other hand, butterfly world, just outside the

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M25, is worth a visit. The End Of Longing opens on the second at the

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Playhouse Theatre in London. What did you think when you walked into

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it? I thought it was big. And I guess you have not moved in yet? No,

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we moved in on Saturday. We wish you all the best.

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Now, to my, we will be introducing Mathew Tait Only Fools And Horses

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and the character Trigger, played by Roger Lloyd Pack. But now let's

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introduce you to his sons, with memories of growing up with their

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dad. Hi, I am heartily Lloyd Pack. I am

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Louis. Our dad was Roger Lloyd Pack, best known for his role as

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triggering Only Fools And Horses. Nice and cool, you know what I mean?

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The vigour of deadly. In the great wind, there was just when. Trigger

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was a lovable buffoon. But there was definitely more Trigger in him, not

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in terms of being stupid, he was really bright, but he could be in

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his own world at times. That was very gentle and open-minded. He had

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his complexities as well, which I guess everyone has. Dad went to

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boarding school. I think he had quite a bad time there. He hated

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getting sent away. I always had the feeling my dad was happiest when

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playing the piano. If he was stressed or angry, it felt like a

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release for my dad to be at the piano, singing a song. My dad was

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always healthy and looked after himself, so it came out of the blue

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when he suddenly fell ill. It was a shock to us all but we knew that

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pancreatic cancer did not have great survival rates. So it was bleak from

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the start. He put a brave face on it. You would not have guessed he

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was arranging his own funeral, he was bubbling with life. Following on

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from the musical performances at my dad's funeral, me and my mum decided

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to make an album as a tribute to my dad, using our lyrics. It felt

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helpful to write my feelings down and talk about my memories of my

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dad. So we created an album called 16 sunsets. It will be a fundraiser

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for pancreatic cancer. There is a track on the album called Tottenham

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about the memories of going to the games with him. White Hart Lane,

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settled in blue seats. Our dad was a massive Tottenham fan. We would get

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the junior Spurs magazine and we used to read the player interviews.

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There were questions like, what is your pre-match meal? What is your

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favourite TV programme? And one of them was Only Fools And Horses. At

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the time, he was the club captain of Spurs. He was a club legend. I

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remember signing autographs and seeing you coming up, and looking up

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and seeing Trigger, Roger. It was amazing. Why do you call me Dave? My

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name is not Dave, my name is Rodney. I thought it was Dave. It is Rodney.

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Are you sure? Positive. Roger really brought that character to life. His

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timing, expressions, talent. Well, you live and learn. Meeting him, you

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expect to meet Trigger, because that was how you saw Roger. Of course, in

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reality, Roger himself loved the theatre. The work on Shakespeare,

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that was where his enjoyment came from. We became friends. We spent so

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much time together, talking about mainly Tottenham. He had a real

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passion for the club. He came on the pitch a few times I didn't he? You

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would have people around you, shouting, Trigger! Very surreal.

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That was when we went to LA, to visit our sister in the Lee. My dad

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was originally married to a lady named Sheila, and then they had a

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daughter called Gemili Lloyd -- Emily Lloyd. She is an actor. She

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was like the supercool older sister. She had a huge python snake in her

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flat. It was like a big road trip. We started off in a league and then

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went through California, all the way to Las Vegas. And we were driving

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through death Valley, and then our dad decided to crack an egg on the

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bonnet of a car to see if it fried. He loved to do those kind of boyish

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pranks. That was his outlook on life, to remain young and never lose

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that inner child, I guess. Thank you, boys, a touching film.

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Make the most of life while you have got it. I disagree. Go on! Just

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kidding. Bizarre! Anyway, Only Fools And Horses was an incredible sitcom

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for us in the UK. What did you watch? Are used to watch a show

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called happy days. I used to love that. Who was your favourite

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character? The funds. He has been here many times. He is a great guy.

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We are going to play some table tennis. I want to talk about your

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dad first. Oh, sorry! My dad is an actor, yes. He is probably the

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reason I am an actor. We did a film together called fools Rush in, where

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he played my dad. He was most famous for being the old spice Guy, so he

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was a very handsome man. He used to be a model. He was a model and a

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singer and an actor. Did you like working with him? Yes, he was

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hilarious. He is coming to the opening night. 2nd of February. Now,

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what were you going to say? We are going to play something pop. We have

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it on good authority that you really enjoy this. I do enjoy playing table

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tennis. We know this, because a couple of years ago, Michael Sheen

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came on the show. And he said so. I played table tennis with Chandler

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from Friends. How showbiz is that? Who won? He beat me, but he has a

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robot at home, a machine that plays table tennis with him. I do have a

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machine. My goodness! Well, you also have a machine here. It is me. Well,

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it was going to be Matt, but Matt had a sheep related injury over the

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weekend. That begs questions! Well, I was doing some pre-lambing

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checks... Anyway. It is a long story. I have some questions here.

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Shall we play while you ask questions? If that is all right. Off

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we go. Who is the most influential person in your career? Woody Allen.

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Why? He is a wonderful writer and director and I love his movies. Do

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you give money to beggars? Do I give money to Vegas? Beggars. People

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asking for money on the street. Oh, yes! Is it true that the writers of

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Friends make sure each character have the same number of jokes using

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a pie chart? They did have a pie chart. Where was it? In the writers'

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room. What was the last you read? It was this psychopath test. How would

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you rate that? It was a great book by Jon Ronson. What is the

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accomplishment that you are most proud of? Other than this ping-pong

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game? Apart from this. Probably being involved in Friends. On that

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note, is it true that Chandler was originally going to be gay? That is

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not true. I am glad, because I loved him and moniker together. Michael

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Keaton is one of your acting heroes. Can you do an impression of him? I

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can. This is him doing just about anything. And that is all we have

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time for tonight. Don't forget that Matthew's played, The End Of

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Longing, opens on the 2nd of February at the Playhouse Theatre in

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London. If you are celibate in Burns Night tonight, have a great time.

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That was a great game. You were a good player. Tomorrow, we are joined

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by Hyacinth "Bouquet" herself, Patricia Routledge. See you then.

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Good night!

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