26/01/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show. We reckon the nights show is almost

there. We have got David Walliams, he is our quizmaster. We also have

footage of the woodland sleepover that we can't take our eyes off!

Absolutely beautiful. As far as guests go, to be honest, it's been

touch and go, have you managed to get through? The Bouquet residents,

Lady of the house speaking? We were just wondering whether you were free

for an appearance on the One Show tonight? How many RU? It's just me

and Alex and a few friends in the audience. It's no good being elegant

if there is no one there to see it. They will be about 4 million

watching at home so we will see you later today? Today?! Well it is

rather short notice! But don't worry, we shan't let you down.

Goodbye. And of course she didn't let us down, please welcome Patricia

Routledge! Did you enjoy that? That was a very clever piece of knitting

up. You must plot doing those phone calls. We had a ball, it was great

fun. When the scripts turn up, did you look for the phone calls? One

pilot script turned up, and it arrived on my mat very late one

evening, and I had been at the theatre, I had been out to supper,

and I got home about a quarter past one, and I thought... There it is,

I'm not going to read it now, I will read it in the morning. Then of

course curiosity overtook me and I thought, I will know in the first

five pages, you do, if it's going anywhere. I read through the whole

thing and was chuckling away, at a quarter to two in the morning. I

thought, I think I can knit this person together! A lot of knitting

going on! She let from the page. You brought her to life beautifully. Now

you have moved on to documentaries. We're going to hear all about your

documentary on Beatrix Potter. It has been spiced up with the addition

of this cross dressing cat, we are very excited about, she's called

Kitty in Boots. First, have you ever sold or given away a mobile phone?

If yes, you have properly taken all the precautions and pressed the

eraser everything button, haven't you? For some mobile phone users,

eraser everything doesn't mean what it says. We all have personal

information we would never dream of handing over to a complete stranger.

Can I give you my bank details and passwords? That's exactly what we're

doing if we get rid of all sell our smartphones, even if we think we

have deleted how most private details. Next to a flaw in the way

the phones erase data, passwords, PIN numbers and personal texts could

all be retrieved from some old handsets -- thanks to. According to

one survey, one in three people who bought an old mobile phone found the

previous owner's most intimate personal details still on it. So how

is it happening? Most people rely on the restore factory settings

function to delete their data. But this professor, one of the top

information security experts in the UK, says it may not work on some old

phones. Phones like Apple and BlackBerry do it properly, phones

using the android system don't, they are still leaving residual data on

the phone when you do a reset. We have brought ten second-hand android

phones online and the professor is checking them all forensic software.

In one case, it's clear that restoring factory settings hasn't

done what it was meant to do. I have got their contact database, names,

mobile phone numbers. And those are actual texts? If you go through

that, you will find credit card details, personal accounts,

everything is there. It would be a jackpot fined for anyone looking to

steal your identity. The phone itself is a Samsung Galaxy Europa.

Samsung insist only forensic software could retrieve the

information. This kit costs about ?10,000, if we are talking about

organised crime, wanting to steal your identity, affordable. Google

said that particular Samsung phone uses an old version of the android

system which doesn't have the most up-to-date security protection. That

will come as little comfort to anyone who has already sold their

old phone. What about the person selling this phone who thought he

had deleted his private information? He is a teenager who didn't want to

appear on camera. But his parent said I could give a ring on his new

phone to let him know what we found on his old one. Do you think you

write it? Years, I've erased old data, text messages, my girlfriend

at the time, you don't expect it, really. Credit card details were on

there as well. Someone else could have bought my phone and done a lot

of damage to my life. I can't really trust technology. Don't worry, we

will all make sure it is a raised now for good. I appreciate it! When

it comes to selling through the company, surely they know it will

they are doing? This is another phone we bought online through a

second-hand seller. Absolutely everything is still on here. Contact

details, photos of the previous owner's family and young children,

job applications, even online banking details. The company says it

does have processes for data wiping but admits in this case, the

teachers were not followed correctly. As for all the data we

found, with the expert help of this professor, it's now been deleted,

this time for good. Some very good advice there. You can also donate

your old phone to charity but to all you can to delete everything first.

Plenty of advice I will be looking at online! A bit late! For the next

one! As we were saying earlier on, it's an exciting day. A big day for

Beatrix Potter. There has been the announcement of a new story.

Released in September? Discovered two years ago but they have kept the

timing and the timing of the documentary I have done, absolutely

to a T. It'll be published in September. And it's quite unlike

anything anyone expects from her. It is called... The Tale of the Kitty

in Boots. She is a cross dresser... There is a little bit of doubt about

her gender. She is ahead... Very different! Not cosy at all! But this

documentary has really been a labour of love you, and it's full of

surprises. Let's take a look. We have a selection of early drawings

by Beatrix Potter, beginning with a sketchbook. She created this when

she was nine. My goodness! She used rabbits in imaginative drawings. And

the humour is there, it's wonderful. I think a lot of people aren't aware

of the finesse... The talent that was on that page! She was the most

gifted artist. There was an exhibition at the Dulwich Gallery

about 15 years ago of works that most of us had never seen. And she

could make the side of the house look interesting. Her sense of

draughtsmanship, the delicacy of everything. Wonderful. She had a way

of trying to persuade all of those who maybe weren't fans... She could

persuade anybody to do anything, which she finally did in later life!

She could put a stop to things. She complained about them exercising

low-flying machines over Lake Windermere, got it stopped.

Wonderful. You have been a fan of her for most of your life, but where

their things in the documentary you were still surprised by an things

you learned along the way? Well, you learn more and more about the

character of this woman and depth of commitment and the focus and the

ability to deal with whatever comes along and make something positive

out of it. Such as, she fell in love, she was engaged, and within

two weeks of the announcement of the engagement, he died. Oh, no! It must

have been absolutely devastating. And particularly as her parents

didn't approve of the engagement, because he was in trade. He was one

of the publishing firm that published the little books.

Beautiful man. Here you are now with all of this information, what is the

process of making a documentary like? We know you as a performer. It

is performing in a sense, I do see this. I have the highest regard for

good presenters, but it's very exacting... We come in, and did we

go away, hands a lot. I can stick my hand in the pocket and get on with

it. I did know a lot about her because I defected her in a play in

but 96. -- depicted her in a play in 1996. Playing someone who has been

alive means you research. She took over. Are there any other subject

you feel you would like to look closer at and maybe make a film

about? I have been invited to think that may be doing another one, I

think I will have to have a long lie down first! There are little ideas

coming into my head. We will keep an eye out! Will put a film on, put

your feet up! The programme is on more for the night at nine p.m..

David Walliams is trying to give the children what Jamie Oliver has done

for school dinners. He has promised to establish 200 book clubs in

primary schools along with Nicky Morgan, and yesterday he met the

target. He has knobbly knees and turned out toes. He was the stinky

yeast stinker that ever lived. He had a strange but pleasant little

face. All children except one grow up. That could all be said to

describe David Walliams is even written a children's book but

another description could be a champion for children's literacy.

Because today, he is here at this primary School, to open one of the

200 new primary school book clubs in a quest to promote reading among

children. This initiative, was it started because you wanted to

inspire children to read more because there is a lack there? For

me, what's important is interacting with those children who don't like

reading and who don't get a chance to, those are the ones we need to

reach. We also want to encourage parents to read to their children, I

am a parent myself and what great pleasures in life is reading to my

son. What were you like as a child? I wasn't a voracious reader until I

found a book, Charlie and the chocolate factory, it gave me a real

love of reading. It got me on the path. It seems simple enough. Being

able to read means you're more likely to be successful at school,

get better grades and have more choice when it comes to work. But

what are the challenges that children have these days with

reading? Some of the challenges are about living in the modern world,

watching TV, playing your computer games, all of that interaction with

technology pulls away from going, I consider calmly and read my book.

Winning children over with reading is making it enjoyable and fun, it

gives them something. If you do that, they will see what books have

to offer. What difference has having the book clubs here made?

The engagement and enthusiasm can be seen in the book clubs, and their

motivation has just increased tenfold. One way to see how much the

children have gained from the book clubs is to put them to the

challenge. Hello, and welcome to the book club challenge. Fingers on

buzzers. What is the colour of the code that Peter Rabbit wears? Blue.

-- the code. That is right. What is the name of the mansion where Joel

lived in billionaire boy? That is correct. In the diary of the

would-be kid, what does Greg put on? What country does that their

Paddington comes from? I think it was Belgium. It wasn't Belgium, they

don't have them in Belgium. What colour are the spikes on the?

Gruffalo Purple. Correct. What are the houses called in Harry Potter?

That is correct, well done. What are the final scores? Bookworms on 55

but the ninjas have won with 130. Well done. Congratulations.

Thanks, David, and a reminder Chris Evans' 500 Words competition is up

and running Just go to the Radio 2

website for more details. We know that you used to have a real

passion for singing when you were younger. We have some music of you

singing from the 1980s on Wogan. What did you love so much? That I

could do it! I thought everybody could. Oh, no! I thought everybody

could sing. It brings you such a sense of well-being. This end note!

Now there is a sense of well-being! There is more where that came from.

From singing to acting. One of your good friends is Alan Bennett who

came here and he was a delight. I am sure. How was your working

relationship with him? Very good, there is nothing more complementary

than having someone as brilliant a writer as he is writing specifically

for you. He wrote for other favourite actresses too but I was

what I call the guinea pig, he wrote the first monologue for me, A Woman

Of No Importance, about a woman who had cancer and you followed her

story. You never knew whether she knew or not. Extraordinary piece.

Going back to the point of the joy of words. And you see, we are both

from the North country. I am from Cheshire, he is from Yorkshire! They

look down on us! Now we are out and about in the countryside, we have

something for you. Now, Alex, how many birds can you

fit on a tree branch? Well if you're a long-tailed tit and

it's cold, I'd say about 14? The recent cold snap has seen

temperatures plummeting. With deep frost even penetrating into the far

south-west. It makes for some beautiful winter scenes, but it also

presents a real challenge for our smallest animals. I have come to

South Devon to track down one of my favourite birds and find out how

they are coping with the chilly winter nights. Long-tailed tits are

perhaps the most sociable of all British birds. Between July and

February, they gather in close-knit family groups. Often seen travelling

together through the tree tops as they forage for their insect prey.

It is a social behaviour which is unique amongst our birdlife.

Scientists think the main reason that long-tailed tits stay in groups

is that they can stick together for bodily warm overnight. I have never

seen this before. I'm going to meet a man who can hopefully give me a

chance to catch up with this wonderful winter spectacle.

Naturalist Jon Walters has been keeping tabs on a flock of

long-tailed tits near his home in dog Bess. How did you track them

down because they are quite shy? They are quite noisy, you can pick

them up. The tricky bit is following them. You follow them through the

woodland. To start with their eight or nine birds in the roost, but a

few weeks ago another flock joined this one, so a super roost formed,

up to 17 birds at once. The roost is just over here? It is in a little

Hollybush. Let's get in position. We had deep into the wood to try and

track down the birds as they settle down to roost. And we are rewarded

almost immediately. All of a sudden we have seen seven or rate coming in

very quietly. -- seven or eight. I love the way they nuzzle their way

into the middle. They look cute but when they want to get to a warm

place, they really get in. Is there a pecking order? Obviously in the

middle it is going to be more warm. The birds on the outside will be

last year's Young, the subordinates. The other birds are dominant over

them. This is a tiny bird and conserving hate really matters. It

is essential. We have probably two families joining together, this is

the only way that the tiny bird can survive. They can keep their

temperatures up by snuggling together. When they have finished

jostling for position, all 16 birds settled down for the night. I can't

imagine many people have seen this enchanting winter spectacle. It is

one of those behaviours that is happening all around the country but

it is tricky to be in the right place at the right time. They are

very sweet. You can't beat footage like that. Hyacinth Bucket didn't

get on very well in the countryside. Let's have a little reminder.

LAUGHTER Ooh!

APPLAUSE I love your reaction, as soon as you

saw what we were playing you said, oh, my goodness. Poor horse! What

are your memories of that scene? The horse was very well disciplined. I

wasn't! We had great fun, I remember that day very clearly. And then of

course the horse bolted, didn't it? We all member what happened next.

Last night, three men who were jailed alongside Nelson Mandela in

1964 came together for a reunion here in the UK. Joining them for the

event was the campaigner Peter Hain. He almost went to jail as well but

as he told us, he was saved by an eagle eyed and rather athletic

schoolboy. In the early afternoon of October the 24th 1975, a man walked

into a now closed branch of Barclays Bank here in Putney, and stole ?490.

There were plenty of eyewitnesses, the man was arrested and picked out

in an identity parade. But what turned the open and shut case into

an international scandal was that the suspect was a well-known

political figure. He was Peter Hain, now Lord Hain. He was a well-known

student radical, a supporter of the anti-apartheid movement, he

protested against the South African regime and is the juices that did

business with them, like Barclay's Bank. Was the bank job the ultimate

student protest? So, did you do it? Of course I didn't do it but I came

close to being convicted. I went to get a typewriter ribbon to type some

university work up and I came back and there was a knock on the door

from the police. Arresting me for bank theft. The eyewitness

statements differed and the fingerprint recovered from the scene

was not Hain's by the police were convinced and ordered an ID parade.

The London Evening Standard carried a front-page story with my picture

saying" Peter Hain due to appear in an identification parade". The bank

staff all said that they hadn't seen it, and I was a sitting duck and

they picked me out. Today the newspaper coverage would have made

the case I'm safe but in 1975 the pointed finger was enough for Hain

to be charged with robbery. Not guilty, I can't believe I am facing

these absurd chances. It turned out dark forces were at work. In 1969

Hain had infuriated South Africa when he organised mass protests

against the Springbok rugby team's tour of the UK. In South Africa I

was regarded as public enemy number one. Bassong me as bringing politics

into sport. Actually I was trying to take South Africa's racist politics

out of sport. The South African police boss later revealed a plot

involved in hiring a Peter Hain lookalike for the job, putting the

real Peter Hain and -- under severe and is. The double was taken out of

the country. Peter Hain was set on eight journey that could have ended

in prison until he met an unlikely fellow traveller. The House of

Lords, please. That day in 1975, schoolboy Terry was bunking off

lessons with his friends and they saw bank staff pursuing the robber

and they joined in. Terry was soon leading the Chase. I was gaining on

him and I could have caught him. He turned around and look at me and my

bottle went and I thought, that's it. Terry was the only witness who

got a good look at the robber. I was saved by an amazing young boy, who

was a witness in a million, my solicitor said, who stood up in the

court and told the truth. Terry and Peter haven't seen each other since

the trial ended 40 years ago and today programme that is bringing

them together for the first time. -- today programme macro is bringing

them together. Nice to see you again.

You didn't give evidence to the police, so how come you gave

evidence at the trial? It came up on the TV that this young Liberal

leader had been accused of a bank robbery, which I had seen and I knew

it wasn't him. I told my father and he said we had to do something about

it. People are giving you quite a hard time. Really hard time, yeah.

And in court, they kept asking the same things over and over, and I was

telling the truth. The truth in the end was quite simple. As the

apartheid regime crumbled, the secret files were thrown into the

fire and Peter Hain was found not guilty, clearing the way for a

political career that couldn't be mistaken for anybody else's. All

thanks to an observant schoolboy who did the right thing. What a reunion

that was! Brilliant story. That's all we got time for tonight. A big

thank you to Patricia. Don't forget, Beatrix

Potter with Patricia Routledge is on tonight at 9pm on More 4.

Tomorrow we will go Dad's Army crazy, Catherine Zeta Jones, Michael

Gambon and some of the other stars of the match anticipated film will

be here. Winterwatch is back.

It's been an extraordinary winter, and we'll be bringing you

extraordinary wildlife. We've got eagles fighting over food,

otters rescued from the flood, and we're on the trail

of the highland tiger.