25/10/2012 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Joe Crowley.

And Alex Jones. Tonight's guests can be summed up in two words. Pub

grub. Providing the grub, it's the

presenter of a new series uncovering the truth about what we

eat. Rip Off Food's Gloria Hunniford.

And providing the pub, who else but the man behind everyone's favourite

bar-room philosopher? It's the landlord of laughter, Al Murray.

APPLAUSE You've developed an interesting

skill touring around the country. You know the sandwich and snack

range at every motorway service station. Pretty much. We will test

you. Leicester Forest, southbound, M1. At the pump, or we have

Ginsters, no doubt. If we driving and look at the pump and we cannot

see their red labels, or we could onto the next one because they are

my favourite! Northbound? How about Knutsford southbound on the M6?

normally drive onto Stafford because there are some peace in

Stafford and they are very friendly! -- geese. We don't eat

them! You've got a warning to Al about

motorway sandwiches? At a supermarket you could pay �3.50 at

the tills for a sandwich but that the motorway, you are paying 20%

more and they will argue, we have to provide a 24 hour service, but I

have an offer for you. I will make your sandwiches for your trip

because I am good and I will save you a lot. It I am sure he will

hold you to that! For Gloria's latest series, Rip Off

Food, she's uncovering how we can all be bamboozled by food producers

and retailers. Here she is with three hunky rowers,

showing how some flavoured water compares to normal fizzy lemonade

when it comes to calories. I am going to be due each a drink

and I should imagine he will be ready for that.

On the right, John gets a can with a third of a litre of Schweppes

lemonade. Then, half a bottle of Volvic water. And then up a lemon

and lime flavour. We will then see after they have drunk it how long

it'll take them to work of those cameras. John and drank a can

containing a third of a litre of lemonade and he takes... It took

you five minutes to burn off 100 calories. You had water with a

touch of strawberry. Finished, 116 calories. Five

minutes and 34 seconds to do that. I am not stupid, am I? Getting

three hunks to do my testing! But it is also shocking.

Are there more calories like-for- like in the flavoured water?

Absolutely, because water has no calories but as you saw in the last

bottle, with lemon and lime, it had 116 calories. You think, a bit of

fruit in my bottle of water, marvellous. But you don't stop to

think and those boys were sweating to burn off the 116 calories. The

lemonade was a bit smaller but nevertheless, it was 60 calories.

The manufacturers say they don't promoted as a health drink. The

calorie count is clearly labelled on the bottles, so therefore, what

it the problem? We talk a lot on this programme about the psychology

of selling at presenting food, and we go in and most of us don't have

the time to read the labels properly, so the manufacturer is

right in saying it is stated on the label but psychologically you would

think, healthy drink, lemon and lime, I will have that instead of

the water, not thinking it is over 100 calories. What is the most

shocking thing you have come across? We did a lot in scientific

laboratories and there was a marvellous boffin who explained

that when you go on to die it -- diet food. When they take the fat

and sugar out, they have to put something in to make us feel

satisfied. It is the equivalent of wallpaper paste. So the scientist,

he had his board and a bit of paper, there I am, and I am using the

methods sedulous that goes into the food, and mind stuck to be bought a

lot more than his did! The this explains a great deal about my

diet! Although it is not illegal, and it will not poison you, I do

not want to think I am putting wallpaper paste into my stomach!

And the government want to clean up food labelling across the board.

is a great step forward. All the major supermarkets have agreed this

week to put up front the quantities of calories but also a fat, sugar

and salt, but already of course, many manufacturing companies are

saying they will not adhere to it because it is not mandatory, and it

should be mandatory, but you now get into the whole of European law,

but at least it is a step in the Rye direction. When you are in the

service station, will you look at the labels now? No! I am making

them so it will be all beautiful and organic! I know there is less

calories in Guinness than regular lager. So it is a low-fat drink!

Forget the water! Rip Off Food is on BBC One every week day next week

at 9:15am. Thanks, Gloria. You will be coming back later to play a game.

Great! The TUC say that last weekend's

anti-cuts protests drew around 150,000 people, justifiying its

belief that trade unions still have a very vocal role to play in modern

Britain. However, others say that the trade

union movement has had its day and is simply not relevant any more.

We asked Brendan Barber, the outgoing General Secretary of the

TUC, to write an open letter to his successor Frances O'Grady, the

first woman to ever hold the position.

Dear Frances. Congratulations on being elected the first ever woman

to lead the TUC. The trade union movement you will lead is a very

different one to the one I joined in 1975. Back then, half of all

British workers belonged to a union. Many work in heavy industries like

steel, coal and engineering. Most women working full-time. The cost

of living was high and disputes, and -- most were men working full-

time. When Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1979, things became

tougher trade unions. New laws were passed making it harder to organise,

represent and defend members. Some workers were even denied the right

to join a union. By the early 1990s, trade unions or on the defensive.

Membership was boarding dramatically. Manufacturing jobs

were in decline. Service industries were dominating the economy. It

felt like some people were writing us off. There are those who say

that with union membership dropping by almost half over the last 30

years, we just do not have any relevance in the modern world, and

our critics, including organisations like the Institute of

Directors, have a particular way they liked to refer to us. The word

trade union dinosaurs is bandied around a lot. You must recognise

that there is still a decent number of people, some of them in

leadership in the trade union movement, who are stuck in the past

and more interested in the battles of the 19th 70s. This is a tired

cliche. The reality is unions are about delivering greater fairness

for people at work but we are also about building successful

organisations in a successful economy, and trotting out the old

insults about dinosaurs is not recognising the reality. Some of

the unions do not seem to be going out on strike to protect services

but for more self-interested reasons, most famously a threat in

the summer on the eve of the Olympics. Workers never take strike

action lightly. It is not the right to characterise their position in

this way. Despite criticism like that, I

believe trade unions have evolved and adapted over time and are as

relevant today as they have ever been. Half of our members today are

women. We are focusing on flexible working, child care and maternity

rights, too. We are also giving members the opportunity to learn

and achieve new qualifications. think the support you get is the

most useful thing. I did not have any qualifications when I came here,

it was one of the things that was holding me back so it is nice to

pop in here. And do some study. believe the unions today are not

just about helping people get even, they are also about helping people

get on. Most of our members now work in our public services. I feel

many of the people we rely on most, teachers, nurses, paramedics and

firefighters, can still rely on the unions to win fairness in their

jobs. I am confident the same great causes will continue to inspire us.

Winning justice and dignity for people at work, and winning greater

fairness and equality in society. So Frances, good luck in your new

job. Good luck as you speak up for the workers of today and Tamara

Howe, and good luck as you shape a new and exciting future -- for

today and tomorrow. Yours sincerely, Brendan. Dr Brendan. I am proud to

take over the TUC when for the first time in history, we can lead

mining unions on an international level, too. Enjoy your retirement,

and good luck on the golf course. Frances. Good luck to Frances as

well. You are a history graduate, not

many people may know that. Do you think unions are still as relevant?

They are less powerful but they are still important is the best way of

looking at it probably. Do you want a ten-minute answer? No. It is

interesting that they go and play golf, I thought that is what the

big, bad bosses did. He is retired! OK! You are on tour. You are going

through to June next year, 105 Bates, you are in London for two of

them. What has got the Pub Landlord bond up? Free-speech, Scottish

independence, the euro, Pippa Middleton's behind and many other

subjects of important worth and note. 2012 has been a vintage year.

Bullying, the Jubilee as well. we could not believe that the Pub

Landlord is a team, the legal drinking age. He can vote and

everything. -- his 18th. In the last couple of years, he actually

now believes he has a message for the nation! Which is preposterous.

It is good fun. And there is a DVD coming out next month? Per d6 of

November, just in time for Boxing Day. -- 26th November.

I love the Scottish. The thing is, the relationship has run its course

and that happens. Relationships run their course, things run out of

steam and I understand that. People look for different things. If you

are in a marriage and one of few earns a good deal more than the

other person and the other person had a problem with cholesterol,

alcohol and type two diabetes Bob le...

There does the Scottish date! We get there in March. We did that in

Edinburgh in August and it is fun to do some of that, yeah. The thing

I love is that you spent 30 minutes at the beginning of each showed

talking to the audience and you have this phenomenal recall, who

remember their names of everybody. How do you do that? I don't know.

It is practice. At a party, I can't do it. When you meet Alan and

Jeffrey at a party, I cannot remember it one minute later. But

you have to do it at a gig. And you are thinking of stories all the

time. Amazingly, it completely by accident, you will have

coincidences that link people. It looks like I drive around with a

There are real people. We were talking about you being back on

tour but you were doing it in a healthier way this time? We are not

eating chocolate or crisps in the car. Gloria will be proud. She did

say you were looking trim. Is it right that you take a drum kit on

tour? Yes, I used to take want in the dressing room. That must keep

you fit? If you have to go down the motorway as much as me, you want an

outlet. The Pub Landlord has a well, it is a pint of beer for the boys

and a glass of white wine or a fruit based drink for the ladies.

It is uncanny the way you did that. You have been practising all day!

Back in the 1950s, one pioneering photographer showed Britain that

shock-horror, some ladies like a beer as much as the men. That

photographer is the extraordinary Grace Robertson. Larry Lamb went to

meet her. Grace Robertson's photographs have

graced magazine covers around the world. Her pioneering pictures of

post-war Britain showed ordinary people as they had never been seen

before. Behind the lens, Grace brought a bold, new, feminine view

of the world. In 1940 is Britain, when young Grace was trying to get

her a start, the idea of a woman working in photojournalism was

outrageous. Born in Lancashire in 1930, Grace did not want to be a

teacher, nurse or secretary like the other girls. She had other

ideas. How did you first start in photography? There was a queue

outside the butcher's shop which made me start. I saw two women

clutching themselves with laughter. I thought, that is a picture. The

whole world lurched at that moment. It is like you talking to me. I am

looking at your face because I am seeing how you are responding to me.

Her father, Fyfe Robertson, was a writer on Britain's best selling

photo magazine Picture Post. But Grace did not want to ride on the

back of the family name. I decided to call myself Dick Muir. Why that?

I fancied a young man at the tennis tournament whose name was Dick. He

never looked in my direction so I thought, I will use your name!

Neots was my mother's made name. Dick, aka Grace, sent her work into

picture Post. An encouraging note came back from the editor, per

severe, young man. Then a year later she finally got a meeting

with the editor but she would have to reveal her true identity. I said,

I am Grace Robertson. I said I am also Dick Muir. He thought about

that and said, oh, God, you why Dick Muir as well, good heavens,

come on in! That was the start of my work. There would be no

allowances for grace in this man's world. One of her first assignments

was spending four days following sheep shearers in Snowdonia. There

were 60 dogs. Every now and then someone would yell at me that I was

on the edge of a cliff. I was just non-stop or working. She had won

respect from the hardy Welsh shepherds as well as her colleagues

back at base. But it was a Mother's Day trip here to Margate in 1954

that would really make her name. London's slum housing was being

knocked down and high-rise flat put up. Neighbourhoods were under

threat. Grace would record and a dying tradition, at for Mother's

Day Off, the chance for these Bermondsey women to escape their

humdrum lives. I realised I had a chance to capture something which

was vanishing and I thought it was quite important. They were at 7

o'clock in the morning in the pub. They filled the back of the coach

with beer as if they thought prohibition might strike on the way

to Margate. They kept going the whole day until they staggered off

still singing at 2 o'clock in the morning. There had been through two

World Wars and the depression in between and they were women who

would enjoy themselves if it will kill them. Another exclusively

female world at the time, childbirth, would be one of grace's

most controversial project. cannot think of anyone who has done

such intimate portraits before. Unfortunately, Picture Post got

cold feet. They were upset about -- they were worried about upsetting

their middle-class readers, and ironically, the women. It was not

until 1979 that Grace would publish the photographs herself. Always

ahead of her time, at 82, this trailblazer be still capturing real

people's lives. Picture Post said, here we are, we are a community,

let's talk to each other. I think that is how we saw our work.

A what a lovely film and great photos.

Those ladies from Bermondsey where women after my own heart, they

enjoyed a day out and a bit of alcohol.

It is time for gardener watched day four. After finding an actual snake

in a composting stick, Lord knows what Mike and Brando will find

today -- time for Garden Watch. Our One Show garden watched street

in Gloucestershire is full of stunning lawns and flowerbeds in

full bloom and lots of colour. Keeping gardens looking this way is

hard work. At number 54, Trevor has got a problem. What happened there

was I was caught by surprise by a snowstorm. It knuckled under the

weight. This wilderness might be glad -- might be a problem for his

fruit growing plans but it is a haven for insects. I am going in.

Wood lice by the bucket load! they all the same type? You can see

they are quite shiny. That tells me it is common shiny wood lice. Wood

lice need damp places to live which is why you will find them under

stones. They are like garden dustbin men recycling your plant

material. You can identify this. Has it got a white lip or Ray Brown

lip? It looks white to me. And it has got bans on. That is called a

white lipped banded snail. Get away. Banded snails are less damaging to

your plants, preferring the likes of nettles. They are vital protein

for birds and hedgehogs. This is something. Brilliant! That is a

brilliant find. This needs -- this will eat soft in Virk to bricks and

corpses and even her over-ripe fruit which is why it is in here.

The bucks they eat are the ones which eat your plants like aphids

so they are useful in the garden. Trevor seems impressed with his

fruit cage bucks but there is more to show here. And I have a plan.

Let's set some small mammal traps. We will get up early and see what

we have caught. The traps are stuffed with food and bedding to

keep anything they catch warm. We will leave them overnight when most

animals are most active. Up the road as night falls, gives

us a chance to answer a question about another nocturnal beast. Amy

has got a well established garden pond with neat, although with three

British species, she is not sure which ones she has got -- newts.

That is beautiful. Can you see any spots on the base of its throat?

One different - at one difference is the smooth newts have got a

spotty throat. Which is the most common species? This one is. The

great crested newts are really rare. Are they likely to be here all year

round? You generally only find them in the pond in the breeding season

so spring and summer. These guys may move out over the next few

weeks and fined a wet patch in a log pile to spend the winter. Do

you want to put him back? Yes. at him, brilliant.

It is 7am and I am back at the mammal traps with Trevor before any

captured animals get too hot, stressed or hungry. This one feels

heavy. This is a mouse. It has huge ears and a long tail. This is a

wood mouse. It is the most abundant mammal. It is a garden animal. You

will not find it in the house. Because they are largely vegetarian,

I get the feeling that they are enjoying the fruit which you are

not. They are taking advantage of the BlackBerrys and raspberries. We

went on to find another two and would mice. Along with the Mini

beasts, it has proved that the fruit cage is a haven for garden

wildlife. How did Trevor feel about it? Have we persuaded you eat to

keep it as a nature sanctuary? tempted. A good excuse not to do

anything with it. Sometimes not doing anything is good. I want to

keep a corner of the garden wild so maybe that is the one. Time to lose

a mouse. We had in that film of the common

shiny woodlouse and the white lipped banded snail which have

given us an idea. Gloria is back so it is time to play... Be Stunningly

Obvious Nature Name Game! What we are going To do Is reveal some

animals very slowly, obviously named animals. Shout out what you

see. Mrs number one. Say what you see. It is the wrinkled eared, pink.

How all big eared? Big eared bat face. Pretty close, Brown, long-

eared bat. You can have that. This one is four years. I cannot say

what that is! It is a monkey. Stay with it. It is a big nosed monkey

faced monkey. It is the long-nosed monkey, very good. Their nose grows

to 17.5 centimetres. You know what they say about a big nose like that.

Enough! Gloria, this is for you. It is a fish but what sort? It is the

one I'd scaly bigmouth fish. What shape is it. It is a big blob.

exactly! It is called a blob fish. It is then danger of coming extinct.

-- it is in danger of becoming extinct. This is for you, Al.

a walking, tap-dancing Fred Astaire fish. Look at the lips. It is a

Mick Jagger fish. It is a red lipped fish. A red elect that fish.

We have her tie-breaker. It is a long-haired spindly grey... Oh, my

goodness! Get is a squirrel wearing a Halloween mask. Well done, I'm

going to give this to Gloria. It is sour one showed cheap tiny Tracey.