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Hel... Hel... Dave, we have to hurry up. We are on air in five minutes.

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Fearne, it is Matt Baker. How are you doing? Are you busy tonight?

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Don't worry, I will find someone else. Claudia! Not to worry, your

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Majesty. Not to worry! Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt

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Baker. And Alex Jones!

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CHEERING I had you a bit worried there. I

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might need a bit of a power surge halfway through. Now, coming up

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tonight on a night we will be talking about artificial

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intelligence and we will meet oneself was human who puts his own

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life in danger in war zones to save the lives of others. And we will

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find out what gives Team rickshaw's cross the super human spirit to

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cycle 470 miles. And tonight's guests played two sisters who are

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far from human. You are bad at playing. I said I didn't want to.

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Did you not play when you were little? I was never little. Why are

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they so scary. I think it is their plan to conquer the world and make

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us slaves. Sorry, that was a joke. So you can do deadpan. That is good

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to know. Please welcome the stars of Humans. It is Gemma Chan and Emily

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Berrington. Did you like our little act? It was amazing! I love the

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contacts they put in. They superimposed them. That is what they

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do for us as well. It is someone's job to colour them in. Your

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performance is on another level, it is amazing. In Humans, synths have

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taken over the dirty work but that is not the case back on Earth. It

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looks like many of us an aching things worse.

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I am with Brett on his 20th call out to a blocked sewer this week. Time

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is of the essence. The longer it stays blocked the more likely it is

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the sewer will back up and believe me, nobody wants that. The blockage

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is at this pumping station in West Lancashire. To get things moving

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again, they have to pull the entire pump out by crane. What have we got

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there? You can see there are cleaning wipes in there. That is a

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wet wipe. It will drop into our well and get sucked up into the pump.

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Brett shows they ran his very own blockage mountain. This is the

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amount of rag we clear out three or four times daily. Of the 366,000

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sewer blockages a year in the UK, 80% are caused by items being

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flushed which should not be. The industry says most of those are wet

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wipes. Most wet wipes and baby wipes are labelled non-flushable like

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these. But in recent years there has been a growth in marketing flushable

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wipes. Or at least, that is what it says on the package. Breaks down

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when flushed. Flushable toilet tissue wipes. Safe for sewer and

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septic tank. The brand leader is Andrex. They are now used in 3

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million British homes. It seems we have taken to the wonder of wipes in

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a big way. It is a growing market but it is a pain in the bum for

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United Utilities manager. They are a nightmare in terms of the amount of

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problems it causes and the amount of money we have to spend. How much

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does it cost? In the north-west alone, ?10 million in sewage

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blockages. I am going to do a test to show the problem. This is

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flushable toilet tissue. And some tap water. We will take some normal

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everyday toilet paper. This is kind of replicating the toilet flush.

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Straightaway, you can see there is a marked difference. The toilet paper

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has pulverised. In the other bottle the wipes are still intact. As a

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rule of thumb, what can you flushed down the toilet and what can't you?

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It is not a pleasant subject to discuss just after tea-time, but

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basically he, who and paper -- pee, to and paper. So we should be

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sticking to this stuff, I have come to Warrington with my own toilet. We

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have non-flushable wipes, flushable wipes and toilet paper. What do

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people think is okayed to flush? This is great when it is dry. I

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think I will use the flushable wipes. Supposing I tell you that the

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water companies say the flushable once block up the drains as well?

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Well, I will just use less! It says it is flushable and then you put it

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down the toilet. I choose to use that one. They are described as

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flushable. But I do not flush them down the toilet. I put them in a

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carrier bag and in the bin. To be labelled as flushable, wet wipes

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have to pass an industry test. They say they do break down so they are

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fine to be flushed. There are a lot of materials down the sewer which

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should not be there in the first place. That is why you get these

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blockages. We know that flushable wipes go through rigorous testing so

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when we say they are flushable they are flushable. Andrex stand by their

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claim when used responsibly. But the UK water industry has its own

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testing standard which is different to that of the wipes industry and is

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adamant that no wet wipes are flushable. This week, they have

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called on Trading Standards to ban the term flushable. While the wet

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wipes in slugs it out with the water companies, we could make it a whole

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lot easier for Brett and his pals if we binned it rather than flushed it.

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Direct hot topic here. I said wet wipes and you said, don't flush

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them! Where are we, Lucy? The water companies do not want them down the

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loo and the companies say they are flushable. It is confusing. It goes

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back to the test we saw in the film. They are grossly tested but perhaps

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to rigorously. The test the industry does is shake them violently water

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for ten minutes. And how we actually use them, the water companies say,

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they do a rigorous circuit of the toilet bowl and then they go

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straight into the sewerage so it is not the same. What we are seeing

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now, that water company in the film is not the only one which has an

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issue with these things. Wessex water said they had 13,000 call-outs

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for blockages last year. Two thirds of that they think is because of the

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wipes. They have combined with conservation organisations and they

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have taken this to Trading Standards. This follows on from the

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US where the city of Wyoming has actually launched a class action

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against the manufacturers to say you cannot call them flushable because

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in our opinion they are not. I am not saying we will do that here but

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watch this space. Like some of these wipes it is not going to go away.

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Thank you. So, Humans, just to change the

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subject completely! The second series starts on Sunday. If anybody

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didn't catch the first one, can you bring us up to speed and set the

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scene and tell us what it is all about? So in series one you are

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introduced to the world of humans which is a parallel world. It looks

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very much like our own. The only difference is we have highly

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advanced humanoid robots who do all the work that humans do not want to

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do any more. They are completely accepted as part everyday life. You

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have met all these characters in it. Some of us are scented. Some of us

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are different, special. We play two of them who are sentience and have

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feelings and emotions of a human but within a synthetic body. Do is

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pretty ground-breaking stuff because it was the most successful series on

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Channel 4 for 20 years so the new series is hotly contested. At the

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start of the series near and the other synths are hiding in plain

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sight. We have been safe here for months, making at home. Hiding, we

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always have. Someone will see through the dumb synth act. Nope, we

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don't. We will have to survive and I want to be around people. I want to

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find out who I am, Leo. Not what I was made for, but who I might

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become. APPLAUSE

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As we said earlier, the performances are brilliant because it is ever so

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subtle. How did you perfect your synth? We have synth school which

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was a week before the first series started filming and then we had a

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refresher school this summer. What lessons do you learn? There is only

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one and it is how to be a synth. It is run by Dan O'Neill who is our

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amazing movement choreographer. With us, he developed this method of

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movement from scratch really. We worked on it together. How would you

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start? The first lesson, what happens? We work from first

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principles which is every movement of these machines makes users up

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battery power so there are no extraneous movements. There is a

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reason why you do everything that you do, it comes down to economy. It

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becomes very efficient and graceful. We learned from scratch, how to

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walk, how to stand up and sit down. We also learned what leads the

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movement. We decided with these machines, it is the opposite of

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movement. With a synth, the eyes need the movement. So if you're

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going to turn, the eyes go first and then the head and then the body. Was

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it quite tiring? I found it quite tiring. No slouching. I thought my

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head was going to explode! You are thinking about it consciously. And

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when you are doing a scene where you have something emotional going on

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and you have to restrain our body language and we move our hands in

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real life when we talk but there is none of that. You cannot cry. They

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have to cut. No crying, no blinking, no breathing. We have seen some

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footage of you meeting a robotic version of yourself because you did

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a documentary after the first series? I have done, yes. That must

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have been weird. They made you as a robot. It was completely bonkers.

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This is for a documentary which will be on Saturday night called How to

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build a human. It is about the potential of AI. We did an

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experiment to see if we could build a robotic version of me. And they

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did. She is out of a job now! They will make you guys next! In the

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meantime, you are doing a play called Dead Funny. It was the first

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time I have been on a motorbike. They brought me here on a motorbike

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and then I will be going back. It is on at the Vaudeville Theatre.

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Katherine Parkinson is also on it from Humans. What is it about? It is

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a dark comedy about relationships with people who love dead British

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comedians. And series two of Humans starts this Sunday at nine o'clock

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on Channel 4. As the conflict in Syria continues

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and hospitals are under fire, most of us are watching the news with a

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real sense of powerlessness. But something is being done and we are

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about to meet the man who is doing more than most. This is David. He is

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helping surgeons in Syria with simple Skype technology from his

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home here. Before we hear about his life-saving work, let's find out

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what makes him tick. I'm Dr David Knott, and I spent most

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of my life as a vascular surgeon in the NHS, but recently I have been

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taking unpaid leave to try to help save lives in war zones. Between

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2012 and 2014, I travelled to Syria where civilians have been targeted

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more than in any other conflict I have seen. It's a long way from

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Manchester University where I trained in the early 1980s. My

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goodness, 25 years since I have been here. Today I am returning to my old

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medical school to deliver a Shanghai Masters live lecture to the students

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here. But a quick trip to wear my training began, in the quiet of the

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library. -- 81 show live lecture. I was always surrounded by medical

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things, and I used to go at a young age with my dad into the operating

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theatre, and I was absolutely amazed what my father can do, actually

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operate on people and fix their fractures and bones. It was just

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something that really excited me. I spent many hours here studying

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textbooks, but it was next door at the accident and emergency

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department of Manchester Royal Infirmary that I got my first

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hands-on experience of fixing people. We had lots of stabbings

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from offside, lots of people involved in car accidents and blunt

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trauma. You need to make sure that you are treating the patient to the

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best of your abilities, and you have to make very snapped decisions on

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patients, it is very good experience for the future. But it wasn't all

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work. This is the house I lived in with Lucy, Charlie and Johnny when

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we were all medical students. What did they think of me back then? You

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weren't always terribly conventional, but you had your mind

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and you would do what you wanted to do. Our studies were all consuming,

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and we hardly gave a thought to the world beyond Manchester. I don't

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remember having serious discussions about world affairs, it was more

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about what we were doing on Saturday night. We didn't even pick up a

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newspaper. Some people have a clear career path when they go to

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university. I didn't sense that from you, but I sense that you were

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committed to working hard on what you had to do. So what did inspire

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me to work in war zones when I was studying here? My dad used to come

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and visit me quite often, and one day he said to me, come and see a

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film, so the two of us went down to Dean skate to see the Telling

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Fields, and that film changed my life. We have only had one unit of

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blood in the last two days. I saw what it was like to be working

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in a war zone, and from that moment on, I wanted to be working in that

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hospital, in that war zone, for the rest of my life. That film lit a

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spark in me which took me first to Sarajevo in 1993, and then onto many

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more places where conflict rains. And most recently, that has meant

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Syria. There were barrel bombs being dropped by the Syrian regime, and

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most patients were coming in covered in dust, they had inhaled dust, and

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if you could operate on them, they would not pull through because their

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lungs were full of dust. All wars are sorted out politically, and all

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you can do until the politics is sorted out is to provide

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humanitarian care to the people. You are the generation that will follow

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me, and you will go out and do this sort of work if you really want to.

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When I first went, I wasn't well trained at all, and I didn't

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understand trauma. Nowadays we understand it more. The spark that

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was in my heart is still there, and it is still burning very strong. So

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there is nothing I can say, what I have done anything different or

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whatever, probably not. But I would probably have spent more time in the

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medical school library perhaps. Thank you very much for listening to

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me. APPLAUSE

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David, thank you for joining us. It is not often you get the chance to

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look at over your life, because we are always concentrating on the

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present. It was traumatic how you did that, because you came out of

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the blue and rang me up and said, would you like to go back in time?

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And it was fantastic to see my student friends, go to that student

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house. 23 years you have spent in war zones, saving many, many lives.

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That talk about a few of them, start with the story of the seven-year-old

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girl in Gaza. I was working for the Red Cross in Gaza in 2014 and it was

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a whole three weeks of hell, basically. At the time, I was

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working in this hospital, and a little girl came in who was seven

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who had a really significant, serious injuries. At the time, I

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hadn't got a wife or any parents or family, and I was about to start

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operating on her, and she came in with terrible fragmentation wounds,

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so I prepared her for the theatre, and suddenly someone came in and

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said, David, we have to leave now because the hospital is going to be

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blown up in five minutes. And I did think, am I going to leave this

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little girl to die on the operating table? So I made a conscious effort

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in my mind that I wasn't going to leave her. So I said to the

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anaesthetist who was working for the Red Cross, do you want to leave

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shall we both stay? And he said, I will stay with you. So everybody had

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run out, and there were just two of us in the operating theatre, so I

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decided to prepare the patient, and we were just waiting for this bomb

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to go off, but it didn't. And so we finished the operation, and she did

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very well, she survived, and I had my photograph taken with her. It was

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a great moment. As you said then, you had no family of your own, but

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then your situation changed, you have a wife now the child, so these

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days you help surgeons remotely from home by using social media. WhatsApp

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is one of your favourite tools, isn't it? We have some of your

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messages here. Talk us through this. I was in Syria in 2013 and 2014, and

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trained a lot of surgeons there, so most of the surgeons in Aleppo I

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have trained and they know me well. They constantly contact me all the

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time, so for the past 18 months or so I have been giving them advice by

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WhatsApp, and this came on while I was having a meal somewhere, and it

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came on, so underneath the table I was texting them back to do what

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they could do with their patient. It must never stop. You can see the

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times, they are like court at midnight, quarter past midnight.

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This gentleman had a gunshot wound to his neck, and they were not sure

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what to do, so I gave them the advice about how to do it, and he

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survived. You have found a good use of social media! Remarkable. And we

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were talking on the way in about Skypad how you use Skype. So you are

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at home consulting. I wasn't actually at home, I was in my office

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in the hospital, and so I have access to computers etc. So they

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sent me a message today, it David, we have a patient who has his jaw

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blown off, how can we deal with it? It is complicated and difficult, but

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I decided to help them through their operation using Skype, so with the

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use of a selfie stick, I was promoted into the operating theatre

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in front of this patient, and advised them with my voice where to

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make the incisions, how to bring up a special flap to cover the jaw and

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everything else, and it was an amazing thing to be able to do, and

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the patient did very well, and after about two weeks, I have another

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video of him that he sent me and he was putting his fingers over his

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trackie to me and saying, thank you very much. So it was a beautiful and

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wonderful thing to do. We know you do a lot of teaching as well all

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over the world to try to pass on your expertise. Thank you so much

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for coming and seeing us tonight. I'm sure David will have inspired a

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lot of your time, and there are six other inspiring individuals that we

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will be getting to know across the autumn, and they are members of Team

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Rickshaw. They each have their own moving reasons for wanting to take

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part in the challenge. Tonight, it is Ross's story.

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I'm Ross. I'm from Sunderland, and I'm training for the Rickshaw

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Challenge. I have my mum, my brother and the best Obinna world. This is

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my bedroom, and this is my Lego collection, the Ghostbusters. This

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is the picture that my dad got for my birthday. I have been on one of

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these lorries, and I can't even drive a car because of my

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disability. Growing up, he was fiercely

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independent, a lovable character, really chatty. Just a normal little

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boy, really. When he was six, we took into a soft play, and he

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literally fell over and he just was staring, and we got nothing out of

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him, there was no response. And I said, this isn't right, so I took

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into casualties, and that is when we found out that he had epilepsy, and

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he had it all over his brain. Eye rake lies the effect on my life -- I

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realised the effect on my life, and I am having black shadows coming in

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my head, so it is just like me feeling things running through my

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head. A few weeks ago, between midnight and five o'clock in the

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afternoon, he had 34 seizure activities. He can have drop

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attacks, they happen on the stairs, they happen in the bathroom. His

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house is the worst place for him, because he is so comfortable and he

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doesn't have to concentrate. He has broken his collarbone, cut his nose,

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got stitches. He only has a vision in one eye because he had a seizure

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when he was holding a glass, and it went into his face. You want to

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protect your child, and yet for us this is the worst place, his home.

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Since we are at home, if we go out, people stare at us, which I get

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annoyed with. Only because I am wearing one thing that looks

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different. It is only a helmet. What is the difference? He gets

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frustrated because he has never had that independents where he can

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literally just go to the shop or go to the cinema or go to town. So that

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is really hard. He just wants to be like anyone else. Has anybody got

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any news? Anything they want to say. Blue watch are you centre in

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Sunderland. We offer a club that anybody with disability. Ross came

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was three and a half years ago, he came in with very little confidence

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or self-esteem. He is now a group leader, he has thrived more than we

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could ever have hoped that he would thrive. Just listen to what Ross has

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to say. I am going to do the Rickshaw Challenge for Children in

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Need. Going to Blue Watch, they have got me to ride a bike again. I don't

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care what the weather is, whether it is windy, rain or not, dark, I just

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want to go on the bike. I am so proud, because I think, it is

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really, really easy for somebody who has a disability justified within

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themselves, but he is very willing and wants to try new things, and I

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think he will smash the challenge. His view is, let's show them I can

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do it. Come on, everybody, dig deep and give to the Rickshaw Challenge!

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He has got spirit in spades, that light. It is hard to imagine what he

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and the rest of his family have been through. Dig deep and show them and

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the rest of Team Rickshaw your support.

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different amount. The lines are open now so pick up your phone and start

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texting. That is all we have got time for tonight, a big thank you to

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Gemma and Emily. The second series of Humans starts on Sunday at nine

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o'clock. We will be back with Harry A stone stained with blood

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and beset with a curse.

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