27/02/2017 The One Show

Hello and welcome to the One Show with Matt Baker.

Welcome! It is lovely to have you here, you are looking great!

Tonight's guest is not from La La Land.

Today's guest is actually Holly Willoughby.

To?! Yeah, Holly Willoughby is tonight's guest.

Welcome back. Sorry about the mix-up earlier.

You're not going to land me in it, are you, like Warren Beatty did?

There it is, looking very shifty! There is a reason they are all in,

we are going to be looking back at 20 years of the Teletubbies, I

cannot believe it is 20 years. Don't worry, Laa-Laa, we will be back very

shortly along with Tinky Winky! But before that let's properly

introduce tonight's guest. but this evening she'll be

revealing her funny side. Hello, Holly! It is lovely to be

back. Your here to talk about Play To The Whistle, what is the funniest

thing you were not expecting when you were recording that? Lots of

funny things happened, the week we filmed it, Bradley Walsh was

announced the biggest selling album Artist of the Year. He beat Zayn

Malik. I do not know if there was any swapping of envelopes. We saw

him sitting alongside Stormzy at the Brits. I know, he is a big deal! Has

it gone to his head? Yes! Absolutely, totally, yes, he didn't

stop banging on about it! Seeing as how we had a telly tubby in the

audience, we thought we would give you a telly tubby test.

Standing in our audience is the original giggling Sun Baby.

Oh, my goodness! This is them when they were just nine months old. And

you spot who it is? Have I got to pick them out? Can I get a good

view? OK, I know exactly who it is! Can I go and get them? The giggling

baby, I think you are much older now! Is it you? You have got the

same I is! Am I right?! Am I right?! Am I wrong?! Now, look... I was so

convinced I was right! Looking now, look at the similarity, you can see

it. How did you get so big?! I am 21 now! It could have been new! That is

brilliant, brilliant. Just for the record, who is your favourite telly

tubby? I can say that, I can't have a favourite, that is not there! This

is like watching Play To The Whistle! Abandon the country, people

who run small shops, pubs and restaurants are bracing themselves

for the government's overhaul of business rates. As Lucy discovered,

there will be some real winners and some real losers.

Three small family run businesses, three different towns, all open for

business, but for how much longer? With the government shaking of

business rates are unable to first, around the country there is

confusion and uncertainty. -- on April the 1st. Many small businesses

exist on a knife edge, so a hike in business rates could mean the

difference between survival and going to the wall. I know a little

bit about this, my family used to have a shop, and business rates

defeated us. Business rates are essentially taxes on commercial

properties based on how much they fetch in rent. That is the rateable

value. The Government applies its own formula to this to determine the

final rate. Most will not know exactly what the rate will be before

the end of March, which has left many businesses fearing the worst.

The Shahs have run a business in Pimlico, central London, for

decades. They believe their rates will more than double. How bad are

you expecting it to be? By 2020, we will be paying ?26,000. What would

it do to your business? We would be gone. London and south-east will be

worst affected. Nearly 200 miles away in Stockport, where rental

values have fallen, it is a different story. At 85, David runs

the town's oldest retailer. He believes his rates should see a big

reduction. We are expecting, although we do not know yet, to pay

around ?7,500, which is a drop of about 4000. It might even pay the

staff more. But not all the business rates are calculated the same way.

With shops, it is mainly based on floor space. With pubs and

restaurant, it is turnover. In Lancashire, Chris and Christine took

over the tenancy of this pub six years ago. It was very run down,

turning over about ?40,000 per annum. We are now doing 540,000 per

annum. That increased turnover is a problem. It means they face a hike

in rates from ?6,000 up to ?24,000. I think it could mean that the

business could be unsustainable. So three different businesses, three

different prospects. But how accurate are their self assessments,

and can anything be done to improve their prospects? To find out, we

have asked Mark Rigby to pay each of them a visit. His company advises

business on how to challenge their assessments. The Government says

three quarters of businesses will see no change or a reduction in

their rates. David believes he is one of them come he is first to get

the once over. I noticed that the shop is quite awkward. The trouble

is the staircase in the centre. It is good news, Mark has spotted

features which would reduce the rateable value. If it falls below

?12,000, David won't have to pay any business rates at all. It looks like

there might be scope for an appeal, and potentially to bring it below

?12,000, which would be even better news. We could put that money into

stock. What about the pub? This is the kitchen? They are expecting a

massive hike in rates. I have a daily ground, based on your

turnover, that is about fair. The good news is that it will be

feathered in, you will not see the big increase immediately. But Chris

is till and happy about assessments based on turnover. Turnover is

nothing to do with the bottom-line profit, and I think the whole system

should be reassessed. There is going pressure for a rethink from small

businesses who think the system is unfair and confusing. The Government

reject that, saying the rates will more accurately reflect the value of

businesses and there is money available to help anyone struggling.

There is no doubt many small businesses will be hit, but for the

Shahs, who feared their rates would be double, a welcome surprise.

Although there are double value has shot up, Mark has applied the

government formula, bringing their bill to an affordable level. The

good news is that the level of rates you are going to pay as only gone up

by ?140. That is good news. That is about ?13,000 less than they thought

they would pay. Would all the confusion, how many more people are

unnecessarily worrying that their livelihoods are on the line? Will

you sleep well tonight now that you have heard this? Yes, definitely,

definitely. Welcome and Lucy is with us now, and

there has been some criticism about how this has been handled, what are

the Government doing? According to those who represent small business

owners, not enough. Sajid Javid, the Communities Secretary, has said

there is ?3.6 billion in a fund to help small businesses. We do not

know how that will be applied. It is the Budget next week, the Treasury

do not want to tell us what is going to be in it, but the department did

tell us there will be additional funds available. Lots of people

still saying, oh, maybe it will be scrapped, it will not happen. I have

talked to insiders, they say it will happen, you might as well look for a

unicorn as pretend this is not coming. That is more fun as well! We

heard talk of the changes being feathered in, what more do you have

on that? How will that way? It is a funny expression, Northern Ireland

has basically been through the pain already on this, because they have

brought in their re-evaluation, so it is England, Scotland and Wales.

Sticking to England to illustrate this point, because it is the least

complicated, if your rates are being increased, you will pay over five

years, and the first year you will only pay up to 5%. So your increase

will be capped at 5%. The same works for if they are being decreased, and

it will be decreased by only 20%. It gets really complicated in Scotland,

and that is because, contrary to rumour saying the Government Will

Beer in in ?1 billion extra, this is revenue neutral. That will bring in.

So it is a balancing act, and it is incredibly complicated, sorry about

that! It is, but thank you! Of course, we always love from them at

hearing from our viewers, especially when you have something you would

like us to investigate. When John from Bagshot e-mailed us about

pricey pancake, we knew just the man for the job.

It is pancake day tomorrow, and of course I am making pancakes, I

always do! But you see any heavy bags of shopping on me? Not this

year, this year we're it differently. Rather than trolling

around the shops looking for separate ingredients, I have bought

myself a labour-saving pack of pancake mix. Let's have a look at

the instructions. Place a quarter of this into a large bowl, I have got

to measure that out, add an egg and then a quarter of a litre of cold

water, and whisk. Still quite a lot to do. After Enid bought a premixed

pack, her son got in contact with the show. After looking at the

ingredients and the instructions, he questioned whether it is more

convenient, or whether we are just paying for an expensive bag of

flour. Genevieve Taylor is a food writer from Bristol. So all of this

comes from our viewer, John Constable in Surrey, I suppose the

big question is, as he got it right? Yeah, he kind whole has got it

right, because pancakes up flour, eggs and milk, so in these mixes,

you are getting flour and milk powder. You still need to add the

egg. These home-made pancakes cost around 8p each to make. How does

that stack up against the mixes that still require egg and water? And ...

All the manufacturers say this is a convenience product, so are the

mixes any faster to make than the home-made variety? Well, this is

very exciting, Genevieve is about to prepare a gold medal winning pancake

while I prepared timing. Believe in batter!

So using traditional ingredients, how long does the home-made methods

take? So two minutes 28 seconds, if you go

to all the trouble of making the pancakes yourself from scratch. How

about if you do it from the mix? The priciest mix requires egg and water,

19p per pancake, more than twice as much as the home-made method. They

say that the mix is aimed at non-bakers who want guaranteed

results, and the premium prices for the convenience. So are they any

faster to me? Four minutes 35, why did it take two minutes longer?

Well, I think, in essence, the mixing the batter was a similar

amount of time, but what took longer was the cooking time. And I think

the batter is a bit thicker than mine. Ultimately it is all about the

taste, so I'm hitting the streets with the home-made pancakes and the

pre-mix to see which people prefer. Softer and tastier than the second

one, which is quite chewy. If anything, the first one. I preferred

the first one, because the second one was a bit bland, a bit too much

flour. I preferred this one. Definitely that one. No difference

at all? So not a lot of difference in taste, plus they cost more and

took longer to make. I am sticking with home-made! After all, batter

the devil you know! During that VT you were giving Holly

good tips. I'm not good with batter-based products. I can't make

Yorkshire pudding or pancakes. We're doing Yorkshire puddings. I knew you

were an expert. Let's move on to Play to the Whistle. You're back

with another series, starts tomorrow. It does. For those people

who haven't seen it, it is brilliant, Hugh do you describe the

game? It's a sports panel show for people who don't necessarily know

anything about sports. It's an entertainment show, I would say.

Yes. This is good. I don't know much about sport. Neither do I. OK. I can

watch it? You can watch it. I'm learning with the rest of them. We

had lots of things, so bowling, I didn't know that you could bowl a

ball and if it hit a comedian that would really hurt. I learned that

Alan Shearer actually isn't that good at taking penalties any more. I

learned on this one occasion, I add. Lots of fun. It's a bit of silly

nonsense really. You have lots of different sports stars on. Yeah, we

do. Interestingly, sports stars are normally quite guarded especially

with their media training. How did you get them to loosen up and have a

laugh? It helps that we have Frank Lampard as a team captain. He was

great. We asked who he would book for the show. He rang up his mates.

John Terry came on. I'd never seen John Terry in that environment

before. He was brilliant. He was open. Because Frank had a mate on,

they were just kind of almost throwing each other under the bus a

bit. I learned a lot about footballers' personal hygiene, which

I won't go into on this show. But also, lots of things. People come on

and they want to have fun. Talking of the two of them, and their

camaraderie. You have a brilliant game. Old school. We talking the

classic stair. Let's have a look. The first person to break eye

contact, laugh or smirk loses. Focus, boys. You can start when I

blow the whistle. # How am I supposed to live without

you # Now that I've been loving you so

long #

So good. John Terry is a machine. Brilliant. As far as the new games

are concerned, which are your favourites? We have this brilliant

game, this is the beauty of being a host, it's called Face Invaders. It

does involve a bit of science. Where all the contestants, here it is,

hooked up to a machine and using your hands you complete a circuit,

electrical circuit, if you go left right, left right on their faces

slapping them. It makes the character run along and you do a

hard one on the end and it jumps. It's like an old school arcade

machine. Look at Johnny peacock there. Brilliant. The faster and

harder you go, the further your character goes. That's brilliant

fun. How do you keep everyone in check? You have the sports stars,

comedians, celebrities, you're the host. It's a real nightmare,

especially with Bradley Walsh involved. He is the worst behaved

human being I have ever met. I've worked on kids telly, morning telly,

I hope he is watching, I've never met anyone like it. He's so

mischievious. He plays and gets up to no good all the time. He cheats

all the time. I have a whistle. That's where the whistle comes in. I

use it a lot Tomorrow ITV, 9pm. We have a game for you to play later

on. Have you? Teletuby themed of course. Right, with the teletubies,

which for anyone in their 20s, it was the first programme they can

remember watching. Well, for George McGavin his first TV memory was

something very different. I've always been fascinated by the

natural world. My very first memory is of a TV programme showing two

garden spiders mating. I sat in front of our black and white TV set

transfixed. It's when my passion for creepy crawlies first began. Ever

since, I've been a keen spotter of insects, not just in the UK, but in

extreme environments all over the world. But there's one butterfly

right here on home soil that I'm still waiting to see for myself.

It's not its size that makes it difficult to spot. In fact it's

Britain's largest native butterfly. But it is one of the rarest. It's

the swallow tail. Its two long tail extensions resemble a swallow's

tale. Females can be nine centimetres across. With its

striking markings, for my money, it's Britain's most beautiful

butterfly. Once widespread across Britain, it's, it's confined to the

Norfolk Broads at places like RSPC reserve near Norwich. Kerry is going

to help me look for the swallow tail. She's an amateur photographer

and member of the local Butterfly Conservation group. I'm meeting her

where last year she spotted a swallow tail, right by the entrance

to the reserve. There's something special about when you see the first

swallow tail. You see how much larger it is. You could really see

the strong black markings and that custard yellow. What are your top

tips for spotting them? Your best chance is round about mid-May into

early June. Keep an eye out for reports on the Butterfly

Conservation or the reserves. Yeah, do keep an eye on the weather. Then,

when I was least expecting it, a chance sighting in the skies above

us. Yes! Look at that. Two of them right behind us. Oh, my goodness.

Coming right above our heads. I want to see one now this close, feeding.

It's her knowledge of this particular patch of the broads that

should give us the best chance of seeing a swallow tail up close. To

help us look, she's brought along three equally enthusiastic

pipiliophiles - Ken, Rhod and Andy. Together we will stake out the

butterfly. As the spotters deply, I go into the long grass. The swallow

tails only feed on one type of food. In this case, milk parsley. It's

poisonous, but the caterpillars absorb the toxins, conveniently

making them distasteful to birds. Not only that, the caterpillars

colouration, black with a white spot, makes them look like little

more than a bird dropping. When threatened, the larvae protrub this

from the thorax. It's said to look like the tongue of a snake and gives

off a noxious odour. Then as I rush to a potential sighting, another

close call. A swallow tail flew right into my face and flew off

again. I could feel the wind off its wings. That was so tantalising.

Finally... Hello? - the phone call I'm waiting for. With a brief window

in which the swallow tail is on the wing, a sunny day like this has

brought passionate enthusiasts to the area. We're in the garden of a

nearby cottage. Wow! That is incredible. I can really see what

all the fuss is about. It is absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful

colour. To see one that close just enjoying the sunshine and feeding at

flowers, absolutely magic. Beautiful butterflies and flowers.

Right down your street just catching up with the teletubies. As you do.

New series on Cbeebies. What have you planned for the new series?

Tubby custard... So cute! Holly, what are your kids into?

Obviously they love teletubies. My kids adore you. They are fond of Paw

Patrol. Do you know that? They love you guys. Cast your minds back to

1997, the Spice Girls were in the charts. Dolly the sheep had been

cloned and Tony Blair led the Labour Party to victory in the general

election. It was also the year that we said eh oh to Tinky Winky, Dipsy,

Laa Laa and Po for the very first time.

A house with a door. Once upon a time, preschool television looked a

bit like this. Ready to play? What's the day? Although programmes like

Play School had been innovative in their day, in the style of

presentation, they still were in a very traditional mode. Come on

little Ted. They had evolved and evolved, but they had evolved as far

as they could in that genre. It was time for something completely new,

completely different. Time for teletubies.

# Tinky Winky... It was very difficult to understand, trying to

explain to people like Alan Yentob what a teletuby was, was not the

easiest thing to do. One or two people did get excited. They put in

enough money to make it happen. Take one. When the show first aired in

1997, it received an unwelcome response. It caused a huge furorery.

The press didn't like it. Parents didn't like it, because it wasn't

traditional. The complaints were blocking the BBC switchboard and

people started to write about dumbing down and how more or less it

was against Government policy. However the makers of the show had

done their home work. They knew the teletubies would be a hit with

children. One of the things that Ann does is a

huge amount of research into watching kids' reactions and

watching kids watching. It's a process of trial and error, trial

and error. By the late 1990s, the cuddly Fab Four were very much part

of popular culture. Again, again. Those books aren't for babies. Here,

watch the teletubies. How dare you, that book may hold the key to my

enslaving of all mankind. Oh, fuzzy. The teletubies became a true global

success and it isn't over yet. Over the hill and not so far away, two

teletubies have left teletuby land for the first time ever. Tinky Winky

and Laa Laa are on their way to the One Show. And the reason they are

here is for the first ever tell tubby triathlon with a pancake

twist. On my whistle, three, two, one... Here's the twist. The girls

have to flip the pancakes. Weave their way through tell tubby land

and back to their selected tell tubby. Off we go then. Laa Laa has

the ball and off they go. Over the hill and far away, the tell tubbies

have come to play. Tinky Winky looking good. What scenes we are

seeing here. Apparently there's a playground in the new series which

is perfect. Is this a goal from Laa Laa? It is! As sweet as tubby

custard. Hits the back of the net. Whoa Laa Laa. Tinky Winky tries one

from 20 yards. It wasn't to be. Wow. What a finish. The first ever

teletuby triathlon. It is now time for Tubby bye-byes. That is it. Well

done everybody. We're done. Did we win? You and Laa Laa. Absolutely

wonderful. Any final words Laa Laa? Eh bye, bye. Very well done. Big

thank you to Holly. Play to the Whistle returns tomorrow

night, 9pm on ITV 1. And a massive thank

you to the Teletubies. We're back tomorrow and we'll be

joined by Dawn French.