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Please welcome to The One Show, Strictly star, Judge Rinder.

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Lovely to see you. Thanks for having me. It's lovely to talk to you about

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your experiences. I have been watching videos of both of you.

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Don't watch me! You were amazing. He was. We're very much looking forward

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to talking about Strictly and finding out what you've got planned,

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because your dance partner, Oksana, is here as well.

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But first, can we clear something up?

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We know you as Judge Rinder, but you're not strictly a judge?

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Lots and lots of serious cases as a barrister. You never know what will

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happen in life. A few years ago, I was making serious submissions in

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serious cases, some with international significance. Fast

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forward three years... Dressed as a Flintstone! I was wearing lederhosen

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when Boris Becker walked past. He said, you look nice, I was wearing

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that two weeks ago. Whatever your adoring, -- whatever you're doing...

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We need first name terms. You can call me Judge! Call me Robert.

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Rob's not the only person connected to law and order here tonight.

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Shortly, we'll be joined by an ex-MI5 officer who spent

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nearly a decade undercover, trying to keep the public safe

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from some of the UK's most dangerous terrorists.

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Last week, we were reminded of just how severe the current threat level

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is, after a suspicious package on a train led

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But where our security is concerned, how vigilant are the British public?

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Trish Adudu has been to Coventry to find out.

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Coventry's west Orchard shopping centre attracts more than 6 million

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shoppers each year. Like other public places across the UK, its

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security teams are always on the lookout for any suspicious items

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left unattended. However, they also rely on us, the public, to be alert

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too. So, are we up to the task? We are going to put the people here to

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the test to find out just how security conscious the people of

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Coventry. The atrium is the busiest thoroughfare, an ideal place for me

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to accidentally leave my suitcase. As it sits unattended, we'll monitor

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how many report it, and how many simply walk on by. To help, I've

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recruited former head of the counterterrorism security office,

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Chris Phillips. Why is it so important to do this experiment? We

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have seen terrorist attacks across Europe, and more recently, and

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attacking New York website bombs were left. These things are lethal.

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It's really important that people act in the right way. -- pipe bombs.

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I think that Coventry people are vigilant. I hope you're right. We go

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to the cafe to keep an eye on how people react. Everyone in the

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shopping centre staff is in on the experiment. If anyone wants to

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report the case, there is a security guard a few doors down. It has been

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there for 30, 40 minutes, and not one person has clocked that the

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suitcases there. So, why have people simply ignored it? You did not

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notice a big suitcase as you walk through, did you? No. Should I have

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done? Sometimes it is a debate, isn't it? You just go where you have

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to get. I have a train to catch, so I wasn't focusing on the

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environment. This couple have spent eight minutes standing next to the

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suitcase and haven't noticed it, so why go over and point it out. Can

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you see it now? It just goes to show you how easy it is to miss something

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that's so obvious. How do you feel? Is even more scary, the fact that we

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didn't notice. After 50 minutes, someone finally takes notice. I am

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an ex-soldier and I am always aware that if something has been left, you

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should wonder what is in it. You did a double-take. I wanted to see if

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there was anybody nearby, but when there didn't seem to be, I thought

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I'd better report it. Good man. Chris has been counting the numbers

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of shoppers who do and don't notice the bag. He noticed something about

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their behaviour. They are so intent on what they are doing that they are

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not paying attention to the surroundings. In the control room is

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the head of security. I think we are very quickly to lapse back into our

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normal ways. We can't see everything all the time, and we need that

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vigilance from people. It's imperative that they report it. A

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couple of looks, and they pointed, but they've done nothing. Are they

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going to report it? They are walking past the guy on the phone Stan. They

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are walking straight out of the centre! Eventually, more people do

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report the suitcase. it didn't look right at all. It was also a dirty

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bag. I thought, it is not normal luggage. I thought, a case. It took

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me aback for a minute. You have to be aware of these things these days.

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We do if we see something suspicious -- what should we do? This man is

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from the counterterrorism office. Don't be embarrassed, get someone in

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the shops to speak to security, get security for the centre down. If you

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can't do that, dial 999 and involve the police. Time for me to reclaim

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my case and find out how other Coventry's shoppers are. Hundreds of

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people walked past this suitcase in a time it was there, and only 20

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people reported it. That's dreadful! It shows that people are in their

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own bubble. Everyone is in a hurry these days. Some of the ones who

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spotted it are in the older generation, and they have a bit more

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time on their hands. Wow! The people of Coventry aren't as vigilant as

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they ought to be put up from now on, I know I will be keeping my eyes

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open. For now, it's case closed! To protect the true identity

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of our next guest, we've had to temporarily clear out tonight's

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audience and close down Tom Marcus, not his real name, spent

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nearly a decade deep undercover, working as a mobile

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surveiallance officer for MI5. His new book, Soldier Spy,

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tells the story of his career. The security threat level in the UK

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currently stands at severe - if people watching this knew

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what you know, would they be I think, absolutely reassured,

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especially in this country. The purpose of Soldier Spy is to get the

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other side of that story that hasn't come until now, been told. One

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people watch the news, it is easy to be funnelled into the idea that

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we're living in a dangerous world, under attack. The purpose of the

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book is to tell the story that there are people out there relentlessly

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hunting these people down, putting ourselves between them and you. You

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are safe and we have your security completely under control. How did

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you go about hunting these people down?

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I will be on the streets every day, day and night, with other

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surveillance teams, tasked to watch everything that are potential

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targets or people of interest do. And we would notice. We have other

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strands of the service that watch and analyse their electronic

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activity, internet and stuff like that, but we were on the ground,

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watching absolutely everything they did. They never know we are there.

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It is important that they don't, because we can't get tied up in the

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prosecutions of these people. We need to be on the streets to stop

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these attacks happening. You talk about a lot of different cases in

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the book. In one instance, you foiled a bomb plot that was intended

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to kill a bus full of children. How did you manage that? There are lots

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of potentially scary attacks that happen. We have been extremely

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successful, but this particular one, we knew the target was intent on

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committing mass murder. We knew that his interest was a local school. We

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just didn't know the final details. We watched him day and night. We saw

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him going into the prayers at his local mosque. His bruising had got

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bigger, which meant he was praying harder, which often means that it is

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getting closer to an attack. As people left the moss, I had counted

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the female worshippers going in, and when they left, there were two more

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female worshippers in burqas than there were going in, so that alerted

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me to the fact that he had potentially changed his identity to

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slip out of the net. The teams searching for all these possible

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targets who resembled this individual. I was trying to blend

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into the streets, and as these two extra figures walk past, I noticed

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the garment rise up, and this figure had the same sandals as our target

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had going into the mosque. It was a good indicator that he was

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potentially our guide, but we still didn't know. He eventually went to a

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local house, dressed back into male clothing, shake his beard off and

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got into a local vehicle. We got a partial registration plate, passed

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that back to the intelligence officers and they came up with a

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background intelligence that it was our target. We called in executive

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action, which is a hard arrest, to stop the attack happening. Looking

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back, how do you describe your state of mind but that ten years? How

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intends to live that life? For me, I didn't grow up wanting to work for

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MI5. I fell into it, being recruited from the military. It is something I

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was always kind of good at. Coming from a broken home, I was never

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bullied as a kid, but I was always the scrappy in the corner -- the

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scrappy kid in the corner that no one paid attention to. The pace of

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operations is so fast that you don't really deal or think the potential

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traumas have been through that day. Ultimately, that compounded and

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built up, and the service diagnosed me with post-traumatic stress

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disorder and I had to read. It's almost like a compounded effect if

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you don't talk about things, and you don't have time to deal with it.

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Quickly, lots of people don't think we have the resources to track down

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people who need tracking down. Can you put our mind at ease in terms of

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that? And he got a grip on it? Absolutely. Anyone reading Soldier

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Spy will come away with the idea that you are in the safest place in

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the world. I never felt we didn't have enough money or resources. When

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we are hunting these guys down, we are relentless in controlling them.

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If you want to stay at home in the middle of the day eating Pot

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Noodles, you can because we have it under control and you are completely

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safe. The book, Soldier Spy, is on sale now.

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Right, we're moving on from MI5 to the M25.

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Here's Arthur with the story of a ring-road that is soon

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This Capri was on the road 30 years ago, which is when the M25 was

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built. It's lovely in a retro sort of way, unlike that horror... Yes,

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it's the M25's birthday. Have you had some bunting out? Probably not.

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It does have some fans, but it's more widely known as the road to

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hell. It was controversial when it was only a dream, and were big

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protests and no fewer than 39 Public enquiries. 11 years to build, with

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more than 3 million tonnes of asphalt. One of the workmen on

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junction 27 was Bob Geldof. Mrs Thatcher declared it a showpiece in

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engineering. But there was a breakdown just one hour later. I

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don't drive myself, but I've got the facts here. This is my vintage copy

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of I Spy on the motorway. Things can't have changed that much, can

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make, since 1986? Who better to ask than Ray Hamilton, a man who has

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driven round the M25 so often he must be giddy. What fascinates you

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about the M25? What I love is that it is this seething mass of humanity

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on the move, involving commuters, people trying to visit family,

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people trying to get to the airport for a flight, truck drivers. I

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believe when it opened, it was used by 88,000 cars a day.

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The longest one was 49 miles. 234 Newbridge to make it work. What if

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there was no M25? If you close the motorway, within a day or two,

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traffic around London would have come to a standstill, and within a

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week, hospitals would be running out of supplies. Love it or loathe it,

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the M25 is keeping us going. There has been some weird and wonderful

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road users, a light aircraft piloted by a young man who took off one

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night from an airfield. A couple even spend their honeymoon going

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round and round in a coach with a double bed in the back. A cyclist,

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brazenly pedalling towards Heathrow, and a wild goose chase, every lane

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closed. One character with a taste for life in the fast lane walked

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right across the M25, we thought we would like to take another look at

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where he was found. Here you are! Somehow, he plodded across five

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lanes of traffic, in rush hour! Although to be honest, he does not

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seem too happy to be back. His new name, Freway, but who is he? One guy

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saved some of his waste, to try to get the DNA. We have found out that

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he is a Belgian migrant. Freeway Has a new home, and his adopted country

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has held out hand of friendship. There is another side to the M25,

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Alastair Humphreys is an adventurer who has been just about everywhere,

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he says a trek nearer home was just as big a challenge. Two of us set

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off to try to walk 127 miles around the motorway in one week. Around the

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M25? I wanted to show that you don't need to go to the end of the world

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to have an adventure, to find beautiful places. It was January,

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cold, we slept under a plastic sheet, like hobos. What did you eat?

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We live like kings, juicy cheeseburgers, without the burgers,

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without the cheese... Ketchup sandwiches! For Alistair, the best

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part was on the ancient pilgrims way, just a couple of fields from

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how we get about today. I came to appreciate the beauty that we were

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on, and how near that was, and nobody really notices the beauty and

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the choir and the hills that is so near to them. 126.5 miles to go,

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this will keep me going! The M25 was the reason I was

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slightly later than usual today... Traffic, traffic, traffic! LAUGHTER

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And we're joined by the lady whom we can thank or blame

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You have done a brilliant job so far. Halloween is the big one.

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Oksana, how are rehearsals going for this weekend's

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Halloween is my favourite holiday, I am so super excited. When she

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announced that, I was not so surprised. And can we say what might

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be happening, as far as? We will be dancing paso doble, to Lady Gaga,

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born this way. And we are not taking a traditional approach, we will be a

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moth and a butterfly. But with the choreography, still trying to stay

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as authentic and true to the dance, so we do have paso steps but... Len

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will be pleased, a moth and a butterfly. My father is petrified of

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moths, I have got to warn him! Can we mention this, bit of an elusive,

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moths and butterflies don't always stay on the ground. That is true...

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It is in its cruising, just for you and for the wonderful The One Show,

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tomorrow is my first flying lesson... LAUGHTER

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I think it is going to be more moth and high-spirited then and would

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come, but... That was memorable. You were seventh on the leaderboard,

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realistically, what are you hoping for, in the next... I'm going to say

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the next few weeks. You know what, I don't know if you felt like this

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when you did it but you want to get better every week, and I thought

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that we really enjoyed last week, so much fun. I definitely think that we

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got better. Oksana, she choreographs everything, people don't realise

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that, but also she is an incredible teacher, I get homework... She has

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been helping me learn how to dance properly. I don't know how far we

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can go but my hope is that we can get better each week. You don't want

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to do it just for you, when you talk about dancing with a partner, really

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you are dancing with your teacher. I am no Len Goodman, I thought last

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week was a lot better. We got an eight. And from Darcy. He wanted to

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give us more, he was so overwhelmed... He picked up the

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wrong paddle... He was struggling, there was a lot going on. In the US,

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you do dancing with the stars, Oksana, how do they compare, the US

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programme and the UK programme, are we a bit more homely, he on

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Strictly? They are similar, dancing with the stars is a version of

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Strictly Come Dancing, of course, strictly come dancing is such a

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great show, it has spread all over the world, but this is a great job

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for a dancer anywhere. Great difference for me, in America, I did

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not have a celebrity dance partner, I was just part of the troupe, doing

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the professional numbers. And now it is a completely new journey in my

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life! LAUGHTER It was in Los Angeles. And the next

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thing, she was standing in my courtroom, and I thought, poor

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darling, but there you are. Had you been to Britain before? I have been

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to Blackpool, of course! I loved the show, I am such a fan of it. And you

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remember, people would say, my whole life... I was on a plane, there was

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a movie, some big movie... Jennifer Lopez, she was a ballroom dancer,

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and my whole life, all I ever wanted to do was get to Blackpool. I was on

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a plane, I had had a glass of champagne...! I thought, OK,

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whatever... But it really is the holy Grail, the Mecca, so this meant

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the absolute world to Oksana. The Blackpool champion is the biggest

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thing ever. It is better than being the world champion. Blackpool

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champion is better than being the world champion!? You heard it here!

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LAUGHTER We know that Benedict Cumberbatch is

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a big friend of yours, any chance we will see him in the audience? At the

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moment, as you know, he is promoting his new brilliant film, Doctor

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Strange, I just saw it the other day, it is amazing. When he has

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finished that, you will have to watch this space... Maybe, we will

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see. Before that, you can catch Robert and Oksana and the remaining

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contestants at 6:45pm. I keep waving...! Vote for us! You know,

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when you are standing at the top... You are standing with them and you

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wake yourself. You have no idea why. LAUGHTER

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now it's time to meet another member of the team, Andy.

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Here's why being involved is so important to him.

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Hello, I'm Andy, and I'm in training for the biggest challenge of my

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life, the rickshaw challenge. I live near Chesterfield with my mum and my

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dad and my two dogs. And I also have a brother, who is at university at

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the moment. I'm currently sixth form, in Bakewell, I am doing my

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A-levels. Loves all different sorts of sport. He is competitive. He is

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quite competitive. He can create competitive shin out of almost

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anything. I love being part of any sporting team, but rugby and cricket

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are my two main sports. -- pecan crate -- pecan create competition at

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of almost anything. I began to feel unwell. He had a weird chest

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infection, he had tonsillitis... Started getting headaches, quite

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lethargic, my man decided it would be best to take me for a blood test.

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They phoned back within two hours and they said, take him back to

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hospital now. They sent us to Sheffield Children's Hospital. It

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said above the door, oncology and haematology. At which point you

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think, well... Really ill! Finding out I had leukaemia, that is

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something you just cannot prepare for. No one expects to be given news

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like that. Initially I was shocked. Within a day, I was starting having

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my treatment, I had a course of chemotherapy. Immediately they took

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him up and put a tube through to the heart, for the chemotherapy, putting

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it into it. Treatment was horrible. I was so sick, the chemotherapy

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makes you really tired. It was painful, some of what he got...

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Whenever they were tapping into his spine to take samples... That has an

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effect that instantly causes headaches. Some days I would be

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thinking, I can deal with this, I am going to show what for... Other days

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my mother and I would sit in the hospital and just cry. They then

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said, there is a 70% chance that it will come back. But if we have a

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bone marrow transplant we can reverse it back the other way. Very

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quickly they were starting to try to find donors through the Anthony

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Nolan Trust and I was told that they had found me a match and that was

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fantastic. He had to have lots of different drugs over the space of

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one week, horrible to watch him being poisoned, really... That is

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the treatment, the treatment is quite brutal. My involvement with

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the Ellen McCarthy Cancer trust started when the doctors and nurses

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said that there was an opportunity to go sailing. That would help me to

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be more confident, it feels like a proper family, because everybody

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understands what every else has been through. They give other people the

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opportunity to share experiences about being ill. Or, equally, not do

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anything, not say anything, and still be understood. -- Ellen

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Macarthur Cancer Trust. I heard about the rickshaw challenge of of

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the Ellen Macarthur Cancer Trust. I hope that I will be able to keep

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people smiling and at the same time, put effort into making sure we do

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the 470 miles in record time. The biggest obstacle of doing the

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challenge will be the early-morning. I have got to Spain to him that 5am

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actually exists! He is not an early morning person, that might be quite

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hard. We are a strong team, and we will be raising money for some

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fantastic charities. There is no way that he will give up, he will make

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it, Andrew will be there, writes to the last, wet, cold, dark minute. He

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will be there. -- right. Interesting hearing that he is not an early

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morning person! Absolutely lashing it down.

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That's all for this evening, so thanks to our guests

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Judge Rob Rinder and Oksana and also to Tom Marcus.

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Now I'll be back with Al Murray tomorrow evening at 7

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and we'l be joined by everyone's favourite

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Back to training, you too. We will see how you get on on Saturday. Good

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night! The tusks of 8,000 African elephants

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going up in flames, and it's not completely clear

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whether this will change anything. I don't want to have been here

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and seen this

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