30/05/2012 The One Show


Matt Baker and Alex Jones talk to the Dragon's Den star Theo Paphitis. Joe Crowley reports on a litter enforcement team. And George McGavin discovers how bacteria can be beautiful.

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Welcome to The One Show with Matt Baker.


And Alex Jones. Tonight's guest has a fascination for flash cars, a


love of ladies' lingerie and a passion for profit. Enter the


Dragon that is Theo Paphitis! APPLAUSE


Good to see you, Theo. Thanks for coming back. Do you know what - I


was thinking about you the other day because I walked past your new


shop because you have opened a chain. We have. Mrs P must be


pleased that you're back in the undies business. She is. I have


also three daughters as well, but that's a fascination of mine -


keeping Mrs P happy - keeping Mrs P happy. Is this the one where


everything is in the drawers? we have drawers in our drawers.


That's nice. It's easier than hanging the small knickers on...


Yes, the drawers are all nicely labelled. You can take what you


want out. Just peek in our drawers is what we say. Very clever. What


do you make of the new scheme that's come out on Monday, �82


million helping new businesses start? Listen, it's a bit of noise.


Certainly we like to help enterprise and young enterprise.


It's actually a pilot scheme - �10 million the first year, then they


have the cost of actually distributing it and everything else.


It's the right direction, but we do need to do a huge amount more. To


be honest with you, it's down to education. You can't just give


money to kids and say, start up businesses. You need to educate


them. My tall fell -- fellow Dragon trains thousands of kids. We can't


just give them money. We need to give them training and teach them


how to be introprenuevers. Do you think �2,500 is enough to start up


a business? No, it's a maximum up to �2,500. Listen. Making a noise -


I don't think it's money well spent - probably not enough to make a


difference. But listen. Any money in this market is welcome. 18-24,


have a go. Why not? If your community was offered improved


housing, health facilities and roads just as public spending cuts


were due to take effect, you'd certainly sit up and take notice.


But as Simon Boazman reports, these benefits come with "strings


attached'" - tonnes and tonnes of nuclear waste looking for a new


home. Romney Marsh Kent. This 100- square-mile of wetlands on the


coast is a unique habitat to many birds, plants and insects, but this


whole area is currently being considered as a potential burial


site for the nation's stockpile of nuclear waste. Now, if successful,


they'll receive a huge package of financial investment, but will that


be enough to persuade the residents here in Romney Marsh to open up


their arms to nuclear waste? There has been a nuclear industrial based


here at Dungeness since the 1960s. Dungeness A is in the process of


being decommissioned with Dungeness B due to follow within the next


decade. Some nuclear waste is already stored here. This is where


the radioactive waste is being stored currently. This is it here?


This is it. This is a intermediate- level waste container, and this


really chunky robust waste package is providing shielding protecting


us from the radiation. But high- level waste is the bigger problem.


It remains radioactive up to 100,000 years. Currently, it's


stored overground at the Sellafield nuclear processing plant in couple


brieia, but the Government's decided in the future, all nuclear


waste will be buried underground. A deep tunnel would lead to a buried


site up to 25 square kilometres in size. One of the potential risks of


just leaving it where it is? I am afraid there are bad people in this


world, and those bad people want to do bad things - crashing aeroplanes


and bombs and things. We can all imagine those scenarios. The safest


thing to do with this waste is to put it 800 metres underground out


of our environment. Is it 100% safe? I can never say anything is


going to be 100% safe. Me and you are standing next this container


right now. Am I 100% safe? I think you are, but who knows what could


happen? That is the question. Communities will be asking, who


knows what could happen? The thing is this particular community have


got this waste on their back garden anyway, and to put it underground


would be far, far more safe than leaving it here on the surface.


Local environmental group Protect Kent is worried about the proposals


and doesn't believe the area is suitable. Well, one wonders whether


the geology is absolutely right bearing in mind the Government have


already rejected an idea of extending the life of the power


station here because of sea level rise, which they say is going to be


quite a problem into the future, and I think the other point on


geology you have to take into account is within the last five


years there has been an earthquake at Folkestone, and it was felt here.


That's, again, another problem. Government is offering huge


economic incentives to attract volunteers. Councillors in Cumbria


were the first too come forward three years ago, and now here


Shepway District Council has declared an interest too. This is


first of a series of open exhibitions for locals. In this


part of the world we have had 50 years of working with the nuclear


industry. It's provided a lot of job, but those nuclear power


stations decommissioning, there is actually going to be nothing left


for the people on the marsh, which already has a job crisis. This has


the possibility of not only bringing jobs but also


infrastructure development, so we could be talking about road, rail,


sea defences. It's up to us to negotiate it and get as much money


out of it as possible. People might look at this and saying, offering


you some infrastruckture or offering you some Health Services


is a bribe to take on this nation's problem. If that's the only way we


can get the services and infrastruckture we need to survive


down here, it's not wrong. I think it's an opportunity. 51% of the


people polled in Cumbria want to take proposals for a nuclear waste


facility further. What about the people here in Kent? I think it's a


great idea it's going to bring jobs to the area seeing as the power


station is going out. They shouldn't bury it, no, not in


Romney Marsh. Why not? Why not take it to Downing Street? You think it


would be better off there? Yeah! It's a requirement, whether it's


regional or countrywide. Everybody is going to be a NIMBY, not in my


backyard. At the end of the day, it's got to go have. The nuclear


waste has to travel here. That's one big thing. I have grandchildren


down in Lid as well, and I wouldn't like them close to that. Well, this


is a problem that successive governments have been trying to


face for decades without much luck, so will it come here to Romney


Marsh? They don't need to make a decision for a few years, and that


leaves people plenty of time for further persuasion.


What would your decision be then? Nuclear waste, the Theo Paphitis


Towers, are you in or out? It's always that saying, not in my


backyard. Nuclear power is the future. Whether we like it or not,


it's the technology that twhoo, we know about now. We've got wind.


We've got wave. We have PV panels, but the one that actually works -


the only one that works - is nuclear, so we need it, but do I


want it in my backyard? I might struggle with that. It's those two-


headed cats... Have you got granite-toped work tops through the


kitchen? How do you know that? do you know that! Just wondered -


get one of those raid metres and see how much radiation they give


off. You would be amazed. They look lovely. I haven't got them, no, but


they do look very nice. I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. They give


off radiation? Yeah, test them. everybody who has granite tops in


their house - you have panicked a whole nation. It's natural, but it


radiates. I have baffled you there, haven't I? My goldfish only have


two eyes. They have -- are on a granite top. We're moving on to


fly-pasts. Ahead of next week's Jubilee


flypast over Buckingham Palace, we thought we'd take a look at how


pilots learn to fly in close formation. That's amazing. That's


brilliant. But there's more to look at than the inside of a cockpit!


This is RAF Valley in Anglesey, Wales, the home of the largest


number of Hawk T2 aircraft in the world. If you want to fly fast jets,


and let's be honest - who doesn't? You have to come here and prove


your worth. There are many tests to pass because it is a highly skilled


job. The man responsible for assessing


the jet school trainees is station commander Adrian Hill. All his


pilots have to have at least three years flying before they get


anywhere near a fast jet. Thousands of people applying - you


don't take most of them I am sure. No, it's very selective. We tend to


only train 25 to 30 fast jet pilots every year. They'll learn the more


advanced aspects of flying such as formation flying, low flying. All


of these are obviously critical flying disciplines. They'll


ultimately go and serve on the front line flying the Typhoon or


Tornado. Wing commander Kevin Marsh is a senior pilot who teaches on


the Hawk T2. The T2 has the control features of the far more expensive


Typhoon fighter jet allowing pilots to perfect their skills before


The Hawk T2 gives you a modern cockpit like that of a Typhoon in a


modern training cockpit. All the buttons on the stick and the


throttle move in the same manner. So when the pilot finishes his


training here, he can go to the Typhoon, and the things look the


same. We can test the pilots and train them far, far better than has


ever been possible before. These are incredible aircraft, and


I would have loved to fly in one, but tragically, I am too tall. I


can't fit in the cockpit, but luckily for me, new technology has


come along - in particular, this - the full mission simulator which


for the first time gives me a real sense of what it's like to be


airborne. I am being shown how to use it by squadron leader Mark


Simmons. Feet on the brakes. Now slam the throttle all the way


forward. Here we go. Release the brakes, and you're rolling. I can


actually feel it in the seat. That's incredible. Gently pull back


on the control column. Wow. you're flying. My goodness, it's


incredible how you can see the sky above you. It's just unbelievable.


That's my horizon there, is it? Most of the information you need


will be in the head up display - your speed, your horizon.


feeling slightly motion sick. we'll do now is move another


aircraft into the system and you can have a go at practising close


formation. OK. Bring it on! Where is he? There he is. OK. I can see


the other Hawk. Use the control column to bring yourself up a


little higher. I am on him now - I am not.


It's a lot trickier than it looks. Look at this. This is formation


flying. Oh, hello. Where has he gone? He's right above me. Good


fly-past! Oh, dude! A number of different things you


have to worry about - where your plane is, where their plane is,


where the landscape is. It's a highly skilled activity, and it's a


Poor Dan - no plane... In a hawk, but yeah, does that thought excite


you, Theo? The Hawk frightens me a bit. I am claustrophobic, and the


thought of being stuck in there. Are you scared of heights as well?


I am. On an aeroplane I always want an aisle seat so if something goes


wrong, you can escape. But you're still in the sky. I know. It's mad,


isn't it? We're going to turn the clock back a little bit - your


first ever TV appearance when you were chairman of Millwall Football


Club. Here we go, in a documentary. Hot dogs and burgers. What's going


to happen to those? Rubbish, goes in a black bag. Do you take the


food out? No. It's a rule. That's an interesting one. Would you like


to take the food home? Absolutely. It should be offered to the staff.


At the end of the day, so much gets wasted anyway, so if we are allowed


to take it... I would have no objections or problems with that. I


think there is no reason you can't take the food home. So did you let


them take the food home? No! I'll tell you why - because - I have


just become chairman of Millwall. That was 12 years ago, 2000. I was


a lot younger there, as you noticed - or was I older? But anyway, I


came up with all these grand ideas - do that, nation. They can take


the food home, so I went back into the offices, took my hat and apron


off. The catering staff said, "Can I have a word with you? They


can't." I said, what do you mean? "If it's repeated, if somebody


catches something, it's not health and safety." That was the answer -


no, stupid idea. You were filming then because it was a documentary


called Back To the Floor, now The Boss Is Back is you retracing your


time as boss of Millwall Football Club. What did you learn? How weird


was it looking back? Did you think I wouldn't do that now or...


wasn't a case of that. It was looking at yourself 12 years ago


and reminding yourself of all the things you went through. There were


lots of things that came out of that programme we actually did


implement. That was one that happened to be a silly idea.


Dragons sometimes have silly ideas. We just don't talk about them.


different were you, looking back? That was my first time on TV as


well, so you can see I was a little bit Uncomfortable, but you learn


every day of your life, everything you do, all these experiences, good,


bad, something that actually enhances your abilities - and


Millwall - I had gone into quite a few companies to sort out by then,


but after, there were many others. It's part of a learning process.


Does it help you to keep a diary, looking back at past mistakes or


things you wouldn't have done? Listen. Anyone who doesn't make


mistakes is a person who never makes decisions or is a liar


because we all make mistakes. I think you just have to learn from


them. You do it all through your working career. So no regrets,


then? They can't be regrets. You have to learn from them. You have


to build your bridges, Mrs P says, and move on. It's strange because


Hillary devai was on the other week and she said exactly the same thing.


It's that trait, isn't it, of just keeping going and trying. You have


to. To sit back and wallow in self- pity about it is nonsense. You have


to take life sometimes by the throat, and you have to go out


We don't do straightforward art on for the One Show, we do beach,


pavement or driftwood and today we are taking it to a new level.


it is bacterial art. Phil Tufnell didn't fancy this so we sent George


Taking precautions to avoid becoming ill from bacteria by using


anti-bacterial soap is just common sense. But right now there are


several hundred bacteria on me and inside me and the majority are


These single-cell organisms are found everywhere, from the depths


of the oceans to the very pavements we walk on. I'm collecting bacteria


for a scientist who is concerned we have become too fearful of these


microscopic organisms. He wants to change our perception of them and


to show us some of their special qualities, he turns them into works


of art. This is a plate which is commonly used to grow bacteria and


to see what is living on the soles of my books, this is heading to the


University of Surrey. Dr Simon Parke is a molecular biologist who


specialises in food bores and ising -- food boys and rising. He says


our fears must not take over. How do you change people's perceptions


of bacteria being universally bad? I like to take the bacteria out


into schools and to museums and highlight the other interesting


aspects rather than drilling into people the fact that they cause


illness all the time. After four days, my but bacteria have grown


into a stunning display of colours and patterns. That is absolutely


beautiful. Amazing. This is a work of bacterial art from the sole of


your boot. I can see four obvious things. A yellow one and a blotchy


one and this creamy spread. Fees are only the ones you can actually


grow. There are probably more on my boot. Yes, it is estimated we can


only grow 1% of the bacteria in the world. So we only know about 1% of


all the world's bacteria. That is unbelievable. Amazing after


hundreds of years of microbiology. What have you got here? We have


some bacteria from the deep sea Wow! Look at that, that is


incredible. These bacteria always get that kind of reaction. I can


see why. That is just a great pile of blowing marine bacteria.


Billions of bacteria producing light. These microscopic organisms


have evolved this ability deep in the ocean, although nobody knows


quite why. What the court -- what a way to grab attention. Sounds


bizarre? Wait until you see what Simon does with soil bacteria. Is


there anything in particular your hunting for? We are hopefully


looking for coloured bacteria. do you want to isolate those?


can paint with those. I've heard of painting by numbers, but painting


with bacteria! For a sample we have just done will take a while, but I


have previous examples. That is incredible. That really looks like


pate. Using these bacteria, it is time to show off my artistic skills.


I haven't a clue what to paint, but This is the most fun I've had with


bacteria. Ever. Picasso, eat your heart out! My picture has taken


minutes to produce, but one of Simon's finest bacterial works of


art to, as the year. In collaboration with a artist Joe


wonder, he used 16 different species of bacteria to reproduce


the famous Ofili up. -- Offi Year. Here's the original inspiration.


This is the real Ophelia painted in the 19th century by Sir John


Everett Millais. Perhaps through Simon's bacterial pictures, people


will see the quite extraordinary properties that simple single-


celled organisms can show and learn to appreciate them. Amazing. You


did your own painting. I don't know if you can call it a painting.


work of art. Her a work of Aboriginal art. It has become


slightly more, it and it has spread a bit. I think we should auction


this. I agree. Get a fiver! fiver! How long would that take to


become unrecognisable? That would last about a year. While we've got


to hear, Theo, we would like to produce a wonderful painting. If


you are up for it. Ready? George is ready. Hand flat and roll it about


a bit. Not too hard. And then take it off. With feeling. When was the


last time you washed your hands? That will be incubated. Just before


I came in. Good boy. You can have a wipe. We will put that on Facebook


when it is cultivated. Off for everybody to see it. We will send


you a picture, we will print it out so you can put it in the downstairs


toilet. You've got no made out of Jan? I have, it is amazing. There's


a new survey out today macro which suggests we are a bit too careful


with our children, that exposing them to bacteria is sometimes a


good thing. We are. If you we'd all the bacteria in the world, they


would outweigh every other species added up. They have been around for


3.5 billion years. That spoonful of soil probably contains something


like 50 million bacteria of thousands of species. You can't


avoid them. There's a theory that comes back from 1989 which


basically says we are too hygienic. If you don't expose your immune


system to bacteria when you're young, when you do get a bacterial


infection, it is worse, and you also get more allergies. That is


backed up by research from Harvard published this March, where they


bred germ Free mice and they had worse health issues and allergies.


Obsession with hygiene is probably not be good thing. Obviously


hygiene in the kitchen is good, but to keep your house complete the


germ free... I'm quite relaxed. Were you with your kids or were you


constantly wiping Hans? These things didn't exist when my kids


were around. Everybody carries these sanitised as now. Are they


good for us? In hospitals, yes. You have to have quick hygiene all the


time. But soap and water is all you need. Kids need a bit of bacteria,


they need to be exposed to that at an early age. George has brought a


lovely plant for Mrs P. Yes! With a bacteria theme. The great thing


about bacteria is they make the cycles of elements. Carbon cycle,


nitrogen cycle particularly. Without Nitrogen being taken out of


the atmosphere and made into ammonia to fertilise the soil, we


would not be here. If you have a look at the roots, there are little


nodules which are full of a bacteria. That fixes nitrogen out


of the atmosphere and makes it available for plants. Indoors or


outdoors? Outdoor plant. They are essential, we would not be here


without that bacteria. A simple as that. Thank you. Mrs P will be


ecstatic! Go and wash your hands! Remember, in about a week's time,


have a look at our Facebook Page, Theo's bacterial art work will be


there. Slightly smudged. We could not have you here without pitching


some new business ideas. Here we go. Instead of me pitching all the


people coming to pitch to you, we thought we would go back to your


old primary school to meet some wonderful young business people.


Have you ever walked down the road and listened to a dog bark and


wondered what it was talking about? How this works is there's an


amazing, spectacular glove that comes with it. You simply St Kitts


and there you have it, it translates into English. You have


to put your clothes in here and you have to take them out after one


minute and then showing these diamonds until they shimmer. --


line. It will enhance your dress. Have you ever wanted to send


someone else to your job or school? My invention is a clone, it is


perfect for you. If you stand in the sealed oxygen tubes, the


electronic devices will send three your DNA, which will form another


you. My invention is the pocket blade. It folds itself with the


click of a button. It shrinks itself to two shrink raised. You


don't have to worry about congestion charge and also you


don't have to worry about parking. Ideal during the Olympics! Perfect.


What do you reckon? They are brilliant. Brilliant. I'm ecstatic


about the cloning one. My diary, it would be brilliant! I can't believe


somebody hasn't pitched that you already. The thought of another


Peter Jones, another Theo Paphitis, might not be that attractive to a


lot of people! I like the dog translating thing. We know you're a


Cypriot, but we have to ask you about Greece. What do you think the


situation will be in Greece? Give us your predictions for next year.


Greece is in a dire Strait and it is highly likely they will end up


leaving the euro. Amazingly, a third of people that voted in the


last election, they did not get a decisive government, voted for a


party that said anyone with over 20,000 euros in the bank, we will


confiscate. People voted for that. Things are not great. But here, I


think we have to think positively. I am starting new businesses, I


have open new stores. We have opened in Iceland, Gibraltar. We


Dragon's Den Star Theo Paphitis reminisces about his time as Chairman at Millwall Football Club, plus he'll be revealing all about his new business venture and we speak to some children at his former Primary school who are brimming with ideas. Joe Crowley investigates a new litter law enforcement team which has been patrolling the streets of Abertillery in Wales, but with over 1500 fixed penalty notice issues in the first six months, is this more about turning trash into cash? And George McGavin discovers how bacteria can actually be beautiful.

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