30/08/2016 The One Show

Hello and welcome to The One Show,

with me Alex Jones and Bill Turnbull.

What a treat, lovely to see you. Retreat is all mine. Lovely summer?

Yes, I have saved the best for last, here with you on this so far.

Well, summer may be coming to and end, but there's lots

still to look forward to in the autumn, as our guest

tonight has not one, two, or three - but four major film

Alongside the director of honour those films, Sean Ellis is Jamie

Dornan. APPLAUSE Great to see you.

The Premier is tonight of your new film anthropoid, which we will talk

about later. But we hear the critic you have been most eager to please

is your dad, Jamie? That's right. My dad shows a keen interest in my

career and often will give me his version of notes. What does he say?

I will sort of tell him what the next project I'm doing is and he

will send an e-mail. He will be watching this, he will love it!

Hello, dad. He will send me an e-mail of thoughts, not notes, just

thoughts. Of every character? I don't even send him scripts! For

every project? I can see what you're getting at... Recent ones...? How to

direct it. It's good he's showing an interest. It is, it's true. We will

chat all about the film very shortly. For many of us today is the

first day back at work after holidays or a long weekend so spare

a thought for BHS shop workers who may have had no job to go back to

today. Staff have developed a kind of Dunkirk spirit. This is the

Belfast workforce, and at the Swansea store, Christmas came early

and Alex Riley was love. After 88 years on the British high

street BHS is closing its doors for the last time. I have come to

Swansea to find the final shop still going in Wales, which will be closed

in just about an hour, for ever. What is the mood like among the

staff today? I think there was a lot of emotions when we opened the doors

this morning. The queues were huge upside. This is about the staff,

keeping their chins up and going out with a Big Bang. How do you feel

about the overall business situation? We have done our best to

make sure we didn't disappear from the high Street. How did you feel

when they said it was going to close? I was really sad, I've worked

here a long time and met so many nice people. I can't believe it's

going to shut, but there's no point being sad because I have learned a

lot. It was my first job and I think I will always remember it. A couple

of weeks ago we were still... The closing down signs are real. The

part I liked most about this job and what I had mostly back from was the

customers. Every day the regulars would know us, they would know our

lives. This will be a big hole in Swansea city centre. How long have

you worked at BHS? 45 years. I was 21 when I started. How do you feel

about it? Sad at the moment. I will miss all the staff, the routine. And

I will miss the people. What will it mean to Swansea when

this goes? We have Marks Spencer next door and BHS, they have always

been that. Have they sold the right product at the right price is?

Always quality. I'd claim that Green bloke. I've never been a regular

customer but I've bought the occasional thing, things I couldn't

get elsewhere. Who do you think is responsible? I blame the last tour

management levels for what has happened. Philip Green and Dominic?

You said the names, yes! How do you feel about BHS closing down? Really

sad. It will be a lot quieter. Customers, everything is going at

50p an item now. I've known this store all of mind life, so did my

mother and grandmother. To pick things up today for 50p, we are

excited about that, but to lose a massive high Street chain is

devastating. These two ladies are the final

customers in the Swansea BHS, after being here since 1947, these are the

final two. I would like to thank you all from

the bottom of my heart and have a final toast BHS Swansea! CHEERING

Sad, isn't it? Such a staple of the high street for so long. We wish the

best of luck to all former BHS staff. We hear most of the Swansea

team have been successful in finding other jobs.

I wonder if they will remember to send Philip Green a card when it

LAUGHTER . Probably not. Anthropoid based on

a true story in the Czech Republic, an assassination attempt on a Nazi

officer. How hard or easy was it to identify with the two characters you

play alongside Cillian Murphy? To be honest that was one of the biggest

draws for me about the story. Cillian was already attached when it

came my way, so I didn't get choice who I was up for more. But I would

have been drawn towards Jan more anyway because he challenges

struggles more with the challenge. He has anxiety attacks and very much

feels he's in over his head and they're fighting a losing battle.

The reality is, as much as I like to think I'd be all brave in these

situations, the reality is I'd probably be the same. I'd probably

feel the same way. I find that very identifiable. And actually, I think

you will agree with this, what I find relatable from an audience

point of view is they are just normal guys. They are normal guys

thrust into an abnormal situation. They are not super soldiers all

superheroes, just women or men trying to fight against something

that was heinous and doing their best in that situation. And you

heard about the story 15 years before it was actually made. It

became a real labour of love for you, Sean. How hard was it to get it

made in the end, because you did it all yourself, didn't you? It was

pretty difficult. It was about 2001 I saw a documentary about it. I

didn't know anything about it so I started a research and thought it

would make a great movie. I started to collate lots of data and

documents and stuff like that. In about 2006 we sat down and started

to figure out how to tell the story as a film. So, yeah, it's been a

long journey. What drew you to the story in particular? I think I was

quite obsessed with Jan Kubis and Jozef Gabcik. As Jamie said, people

were thrust into different jobs during the war. You would be a baker

one day and fighting on the fields all guns blazing the next. We

mentioned you start alongside Cillian Murphy, who people will be

familiar with from Peaky Blinders. We can see from this tense moment...

APPLAUSE All we want to know is what happens

next! Based on true events very important

in Czechoslovakian history, was it every detail that was close to the

facts? With the historical fact I try not to deviate too much because

they are the facts. But where we can dramatise and be a storyteller is

with the characters and you can build the relationships. We don't

really know what they said together, so that's where you mind the story.

We try to keep really accurate with the historical events, because we

wanted it to be authentic. The Premier happened in Prague. They

received it really well. That must of been so flattering for you,

having made the film? It is a story they are incredibly proud of and so

they should be, it is a proud part of their history which has been

buried a long time. After the war communism came in and it was sort of

frowned upon, this act. In a weird way it was buried and it's only

recently has come to light again and people are very proud of what the

Czech parachute as did. It is a great celebration to tell the world

that story. Cillian Murphy is your co-star. As characters you have a

slightly abrasive relationship sometimes. An interesting dynamic.

What was it like working with him? Well, I mean... It's tricky. Cillian

and I have very fond of each other. It's very Irish to show love through

slapping each other off. Trying so hard to be sincere...! LAUGHTER

I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. The honest truth is I was a

massive fan of Cillian before, not just because I'm Irish. But he's a

young actor, the way he's approached his career and a variety of work he

has done from the blockbusters like Batman to low-budget movies to

television, to Irish theatre, everything, he's had such a good

balance in his career. And then it turns out he's the loveliest fella

in the world. That is hard to say. He will mock you now. Is all this

true, Sean? I had good fun with the boys, I have to say. We have to be

thankful to Sean for casting us together. It's a gamble. It's

basically like a two hand. It's a bit of a gamble that you might not

see eye to eye with the other person. I think the fact we're both

Irish maybe helps. It was a gamble that worked for you. Thank you for

your time. Anthropoid is in cinemas from Friday the 9th of September.

Just two years before Operation Anthropoid took place,

a squad of British soldiers was given orders to tackle a very

This time, the target wasn't 600 miles away in Prague.

September 15, 1940, an army truck speeds through the capital. It's the

height of the London Blitz on every corner of the city is in chaos. At

the centre, and untouched beacon of hope and defiance, St Paul's

Cathedral. But during a shattering V-Day bomb raid an unexploded device

threatens to destroy the cherished building, and with it, the morale of

a nation. The Royal engineer bomb disposal squad was called in. The

bomb had penetrated the ground near the west end of the Cathedral and

ruptured the gas mains starting a fire. Although the flames were

extinguished, the men found the pit was full of electrical cables and

poisonous gas. It could explode at any moment. I served as a bomb

disposal officer with the British forces, so I know how incredibly

dangerous this situation was. My ex-colleagues in the Royal Engineers

and Logistics Corps still deal with unexploded World War II bombs today.

Staff Sergeant McKinnon dealt with a 250 kilograms one in Bermondsey in

2015. They moved it to a quarry in Kent to be detonated.

I believe the one at St Paul's was 1000 kg. What sort of damage would

it cause Chris Wratt is right at the top end of what we deal with. What

we have done is set up a charge over here, 250 grams. That means the St

Paul's bomb was four thousand times bigger. Stand by! Even with the

small charge you can feel the power. Our explosion is roughly equivalent

to six grenades. By the same calculation, the St Paul's bomb was

equivalent to 20 4000. In the woods, a dummy bomb has been bricked up to

defuse and I am observing. With a bomb like this we have no

protection. With something this size it is designed to take down

buildings. Back at St Paul's, temporary Lieutenant Davies and his

men have to dig to reach the St Paul's bomb. They dig for three

nail-biting days and then on Sunday the 15th of September, George Reilly

hits metal, 27 feet below ground level. He'd found a lethal Herman

bomb with a type 17 views. Just a month before such a bomb had killed

three men trying to defuse it so orders were to destroy it in situ,

but this wasn't an option. The Cathedral was a symbol of Britain's

defiance and Churchill ordered it should be protected at all costs. So

the only option was to dig up the bomb and remove it with this view is

still intact. Techniques for stalling times like these were

considered too experimental to use at the time, but now they are used

regularly. What we need to do is drilling to hear and inject a water

solution. The idea is it takes the salt inside, gets between all the

clockwork and when it dries out, it leaves all the salts there. This is

not how the guys in St Paul's did it. What they did is treated it, as

a long delay fuse. That meant it was set to explode but no one could tell

when. Stephen is a bomb disposal historian.

The bomb itself is 1,000 kg dead weight, caked in mud, very slippery

and it needed several people to unload it onto the truck. Sapper

Wiley stepped forward and said he would hold the bomb in the back of

the truck while Lieutenant Davies drove at high speed through Hackney

marshes, where the bomb was then off-loaded. As they were driving to

a save point, the bomb actually exploded. So the guys got it there

to a safe place in the nick of time. They were very, very lucky. The

explosion made a crater 100 feet wide. Four Royal Engineers won

medals for their courage. Lieutenant Davies, who drove the bomb to

Hackney marshes and Sapper Wiley, who struck metal and held onto the

bomb, were both decorated for their bravery with the George Cross. As

for St Paul's, thanks to the courage of men like Davies and Wiley, it

survived the Blitz and became a focal point for celebrations when

the war ended in 1945. Thank you, Andy, former bomb

disposal officer. That boy can do it all!

Operation Anthropoid, as we know, is a true story.

But regular viewers to the show will know that there are many

stories from World War Two which we've told which frankly sound

Joe's here with more tales from that era.

He is going to outline them for us in best One Show

And we'd like you guys to decide whether they really happened

April 1943, the body of a Royal Marine is washed up on the coast of

Spain handcuffed to his wrist is a briefcase full of Top Secret

documents, but all is not what it seems. The body is in fact that of a

homeless man from Wales and the documents of falls, an audacious

attempt to dupe the Nazis. Fact or Film? What are you going with? Fact.

Operation Mincemeat. An expert. It was a very audacious attempt to

mislead the Nazis. It was very successful, the man in question was

a poor guy who had committed suicide and his body was taken over by the

authorities, they gave him a new identity and planted him in the

water off Spain. They were targeting a very specific German spy in that

part of Spain and sure enough, the documents made it into his hands and

the Nazis bought it and they thought the invasion would go through

Sardinia and Greece and not through Sicily, which was the obvious way to

do it. Hitler moved his forces out of Sicily and there was less

resistance when they came through. The next one is a bit harder.

France, 1944, our hero is Krystyna, a former Polish beauty queen turned

spy who is wanted by the Nazis. In a bold attempt to rescue three

resistance fighters due to be executed, she goes into a Gestapo

prison. There are wanted posters with her face on all around and

single-handedly, she frees her fellow fighters. Fact or Film?

Sounds like operation Bolognese... Am I overcooking it now? I find that

quite probable story, I think it is fact. It is indeed fact, two outcrop

two. This was Krystyna Skarbek, an incredible spy, thought to be

church's favourite spy, in fact and what she does is the ultimate bluff

-- Churchill's favourite spy. She goes into the prison and so she is a

British agent and the invasion is coming. She didn't know it was the

case, although it was the case, and the only way to save yourself is to

start releasing prisoners. These three are the ideal candidates, I am

married to one of them. And after a three-hour conversation with the

prison captain, she walked out with them. 30 seconds. June 1944, D-Day

is imminent and the German army doctor is so desperate to know when

the invasion is that he kidnaps and American intelligence agent, who

drugs him, convinces him it is 1950 and the war is over and he can

divulges the plans. Fact or Film? I'm going to go film on that one. It

should be a film. It is, 36 Hours, based on a roll Dahl story. -- Roald

Dahl story. Well, how plausible does this sound

as a One Show film plot? "A gardener from Lancashire takes

an early morning boat to an island "off the south coast of Britain

to rendezvous with a woman "who claims to own

Napoleon's baby's cot?" Listen, Bill, that is nothing

unusual on this show. It is a glorious summer's morning

and I am on the high seas heading to a very special holiday home. Not the

high seas, exactly, but the Solent, crossing from Southampton to the

Isle of Wight, the same journey made every summer by action girl and

former supermodel Jodie Kidd. Wow, Christine, welcome to my little bit

of heaven on the Isle of Wight. And it is, my goodness, that is a view

and a half. What was it like growing up here? Just amazing to be playing

around in boats and jumping off of this many times, racing out to

boys... Not literally to boys! This is incredible. Such a wonderful

place to grow up and so I bring indie here as much as I possibly

can. Jodie comes from a family of high achievers. Her

great-grandfather was the press baron Lord Beaverbrook and his son,

Max Aitken, owned this house in Paris. As well as a family home, it

is a museum displaying some unusual treasures. Said this is the

beginning, the entrance of the museum, and it explains a little bit

about my great uncle, Max Aitken and in World War II, he was one of the

Battle of Britain pilots, famous 601 Squadron. When he left the RAF, he

was a very successful sailor and then he started the offshore

powerboat racing. You can see pictures of them going God knows

what speed. Speed, speed, speed. Always. I don't know where I got it

from. I'm beginning to see why Jodie has remained in the public eye since

she was 16. She has been a model, racing car driver, a polo player and

TV presenter and is currently raising funds for Help for Heroes.

But if anyone knows her best, it is the current occupant, cousin Laura.

You have seen Jodie Grow up, what was she like as a child? We always

knew she was going to be something special because competitiveness

comes to mind. If you put her on a rowing boat, she had to win in a

race. Sand castles, she had the biggest and the best. She knocked

the other ones down, I think, sabotage! What were your memories in

the museum? One had to stop her and her siblings and my kids getting

into Queen Victoria's croquet set and smashing the wooden balls up and

down the long room, one end to the other, which is terrifying,

considering most of the models are in glass cases. This is Napoleon's

cradle for his son and I remember swinging violently, legs out.

Serious, serious trouble. But just now, as an older person, you go,

"Crikey, Napoleon would have rocked his child in that!" And so did I!

Jodie has excelled in pretty much everything she has turned her hand

to. But life has not always been easy for her. As a late teenager

going into my early 20s, you know, I used to suffer from anxiety. It is

just a horrible thing because when you are going through it and you are

constantly thinking you are going mad, why am I getting heart

palpitations? And once you understand why you are going through

this and what anxiety is and you are just releasing too much adrenaline

and you're constantly in the fight flight stage, you know, that was how

I kind of healed myself. I moved back out into the country, started

growing my own vegetables. Excellent!

Right, the sun is out and it is time now for a jaunt around the bay along

with cousin Martin and indeed. I absolutely love bringing indie band

here, where he can get to experience a little bit about what I did

growing up here -- Indie here. I thought we would be having a little

saunter. We are. We have left the harbour and now, we are going to

pick it up. Go for it! Not so much of a saunter.

It is fast, it is exciting. It is exactly what I imagine Jodie's live

to be. It is quite fun! You see, Jodie and

Christine shouldn't work, but it really does. They are a perfect

combination. You guys, where did you go on holiday as a child? Together?

You go back such a long way! We mostly went camping in France, got

the ferry over. I don't remember a huge amount of it but that is

definitely where I went. Sean, did you go to the Isle of Wight? I did,

Butlins on the Isle of Wight. We went there, what a brilliant place!

Anyway, let's talk about The Fall. The Fall is coming back for another

series in which you play a much less heroic character. It has really

changed your career, that role. I do think so, yes. Certainly

professionally, it totally changed my life and I am forever grateful

for it. I would play that character, as horrible as he is, for the rest

of my life if someone gave me the option. It is also bad thing, four

and a half years into it now, they are like family to me, the crew, the

same groove all three series, so... We are seeing you there at the end

of the second series and you think, where can you go from here? Well...

That is the million dollar question. I watched the first series and I got

so tense that I got backache at one point. Wouldn't it have been really

creepy if I had come in behind you and... Really grim! How much darker

can your character actually get? I guess there hasn't been an intention

to try and do that, we haven't been trying to show him any darker. The

proof is in the pudding, I think, so far, but it goes in quite an

unexpected place, series three. Won't say, without giving too much

away but Allan Cubitt and I can he created it, are very close and I

didn't see what was coming. And you get a break from that because you

have other projects in the pipeline. Yes, I have a lot coming out at the

moment. This is very strange, you never Planus and I certainly

wouldn't have planned it, but I have four different projects coming out

on different platforms in the next five weeks so I have to remind

myself what I am doing press for. You will be back next week doing

press for something else! Nice to see you both and enjoy the premiere

tonight, have a great night. Anthropoid is out on Friday the 9th

of September and, Bill, are you going to stay put? If you will have

bigger the next couple of days, it has been great. We have some

brilliant guest. On Friday, Renee Zellweger and on Thursday, all

things Poldark. And tomorrow, we are joined by John Bishop. Have a lovely

evening, goodbye. Planet Strictly to Sparkle -

this is Mission Fabulous.