Episode 14 Debatable

APPLAUSE

Hello and welcome to Debatable

where, today, one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

But they're not on their own.

They will have a panel of well-known faces

debating the way to the answers.

Will they help or will they hinder?

As always, that is debatable, so let's meet them.

Today, we have reporter Michael Buerk,

we have news broadcaster Naga Munchetty

and former England cricketer Phil Tufnell.

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I'd say this panel pretty much has everything covered.

-Would that be fair to say, Michael Buerk?

-Absolutely.

There's nothing we do not know.

LAUGHTER

So, come on, specialist subjects -

what are we bringing to the dance, Naga?

-I'm good with fashion, pop, music.

-Thank God for that.

-Well, I think we need to be balanced, don't we?

-Yes.

Not into sport unless it's golf.

-Because you do love your golf.

-I love my golf.

I'm surprised you haven't got the clubs under the table.

-She has, actually.

-I have, actually.

-Come on, Phil.

-Sport, for me.

Fairly confident if I get those kind of questions.

Also, a bit of food and drink, something like that, not too bad.

Nice. But, Michael, you are the all-round Renaissance man.

-I have big gaps in my knowledge, you know.

-What would those gaps be?

Well, anything the hoi polloi are interested in,

who are under 60, you know.

What would the highfalutin, over-60s topics be

that you're going to specialise in?

-This is really dangerous.

-So, what are you hoping to avoid today?

Anything to do with pop music, celebrities, that kind of stuff.

OK, that is today's panel. Let's meet today's contestant.

It is Suzi from Malvern.

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-Suzi, welcome to the show.

-How do you do?

Tell us a bit about yourself.

Right, I'm Suzi, I'm 70 years old

and I'm from Malvern in Worcestershire

and I'm retired music agent.

I was also the first go-go dancer in Denmark.

-Wow!

-Wow!

-My only real claim to fame, I'm afraid.

And I'm not really famous at all! Not even in Denmark!

Hang on, there's so much there in that opening statement

that we have to get into. So, when did you become a go-go girl?

Oh, that was in 1966.

I was really hoping you were going to say last Thursday.

LAUGHTER Tell us a bit about the music.

I started managing a punk band called State Secrets

in the late '70s, and my very last band was The Dubliners.

-No way!

-Yeah, I toured them for about ten years.

-You're kidding me!

-No.

-They're one of my favourite bands.

I can't believe you worked with The Dubliners!

-Now, look at the band that we have today.

-Fantastic!

Do you think that anybody looks like the lead in the band?

Do you think anybody should maybe be leaving the band?

LAUGHTER

-I'd say they've got pretty all-round knowledge.

-Mm, yeah.

-Ready to play?

-I am.

-OK, here we go. Let's play Round 1.

-Suzi, Round 1 is multiple choice.

-OK.

Four possible answers to each question,

-four questions in this round, £200 for each correct answer.

-OK.

Let's see if we can get you up and running with this one.

Oh!

I really haven't got a clue.

Let's see if our panel are as honest as you are with this question, Suzi.

-That WAS honest.

-Panel, your debate starts now.

OK, I think it's not the dragon

cos I think whenever it's the year of the dragon,

-you always hear about it.

-Yes.

-Yeah.

So, I definitely don't think it's year of the dragon.

-And haven't we had the year of the pig?

-Yes.

-Cos I thought that was my year.

-Was it?

-I was veering towards rooster...

-I was thinking rooster.

-..for some reason.

-I...

-A cock crowed in the back of my mind.

-Ooh, lovely.

-Ah.

-And I thought to myself, "I must have read this somewhere."

-Yeah.

Because it's American, isn't it?

-Does anybody in England call a cock a rooster?

-No.

We've had dragon, we've had pig...

-And I think tiger, we'd have heard as well.

-Yeah.

Cos you'd have seen the images.

When you go down and get your chow mein and things like that

-on a Saturday night.

-You think tiger, do you?

You would have thought the tiger would have been there.

No, I think you're right. I think it's...

MICHAEL CLUCKS

-That seals it then.

-LAUGHTER

-By far the best impression.

-It was very surreal.

-I'll go with Michael.

-I'm with Michael. We all kind of had a gut feeling towards it.

-Yeah.

So, the panel thinks that,

according to the traditional Chinese calendar,

this year is the year of the rooster.

The panel are bringing their extensive knowledge

-of the Chinese calendar here.

-I'm going to go with the panel

because I really haven't got a clue, so I'll say rooster too.

OK, you're going with the panel.

To get you up and running, for £200, is 2017 the year of the rooster?

-It is!

-Yes!

-Well done!

-CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

-SUZI:

-Thank you.

-MICHAEL:

-Just trust us.

You didn't say that before.

And Michael will be doing an impression

of all of the other animals on that list as the show goes on.

It is the year of the rooster, following on from 2016,

which was the year of the monkey. Well done, panel. Well played, Suzi.

You're up and running. £200 into the prize pot.

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Here comes your next one.

I've got a gut feeling about this one.

It came to my mind before they came up,

so I'm going to listen to what you have to say, panel, if that's OK.

Let's see what the panel can bring to this.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-Any gut feelings?

-Audrey Hepburn... Not for me, I'm afraid.

-Audrey Hepburn...

-I love the films, I loved all of the films.

-My Fair Lady wasn't written by Truman Capote, was it?

-No.

Breakfast At Tiffany's,

the original story was a lot more dark than the actual film.

The film was very light

but, actually, her character was a lot more seedy, shall we say,

in the original writing.

-Yes, it was Hollywoodised, wasn't it?

-It was, it was.

Roman Holiday - there's that advertisement

that's on the other side, isn't it, Roman Holiday?

Yes, with the bus and the chocolate.

And the Mercedes. We like the car. But that wasn't Truman Capote.

Do you think someone like Truman Capote would have written

-something called Funny Face?

-No.

-I think it's Breakfast At Tiffany's.

-I think so, considering Truman Capote's writing.

-Go on.

OK, so the panel think that the Audrey Hepburn film

that was based on works by Truman Capote was Breakfast At Tiffany's.

Very convincing there from the panel.

Any truth in there though, Suzi?

That was the first thing that came into my mind before it came up,

so I'm going to go with Breakfast At Tiffany's.

It was your first thought, confirmed by the panel, you believe.

For £200, was Breakfast At Tiffany's based on a work by Truman Capote?

It was! APPLAUSE

Well done, well done.

Breakfast At Tiffany's is a novella

and one of Capote's most popular works.

My Fair Lady is a musical version

of the George Bernard Shaw 1912 play Pygmalion.

Funny Face was by Leonard Gershe.

-Well done, panel. Another £200. Well done. Suzi.

-Thank you.

You're up to £400.

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Here comes your next question.

I can't see them being orchids.

I think weapons, no.

And I don't think they're dances.

I, personally, think they're chess openings,

-even though I've never heard of them.

-You've never heard of them.

You don't recall doing a Ruy Lopez in a cage?

No, nor a Torre Attack!

OK, panel, anything you can bring to this? Your debate starts now.

Well, we've got two celebrity dancers here, so is it a dance?

-Can you rule that out?

-I've never done one of those in a dance.

-I might have done one by accident.

-Yes, might have slipped one in.

-I don't think I was meant to do it.

-No.

-My gut instinct for this...

-Is chess.

-..is chess.

-I think so.

I think I've heard of Torre Attack as a move in chess

but I'm not 100% at all.

And a piano is black and white and so are the sort of chess pieces.

-Ooh!

-Ooh, I like your thinking.

-Yeah.

And I've never heard anyone say, "You'd better do a runner,

"he's holding a Ruy Lopez."

-LAUGHTER

-We can rule out,

-don't you think, dances and weapons?

-I think so.

I reckon it's orchids or chess openings.

-And Suzi was feeling chess openings.

-Yeah, she was.

-And she's an instinctive kind of person, isn't she?

-Yeah.

With a broad range of experience. Process of eliminating.

-Chess openings?

-I agree completely.

So, I think we're in agreement,

so the answer we're going to go with is chess openings.

Um, I think I'm going to go with the panel on this one.

I've got a feeling that they're all named after chess players,

actually, somewhere along the line.

-Yeah.

-OK, you're going with the panel.

For £200, the correct answer is...

-Yay!

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-100%.

-Easy now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Long way to go.

The Torre Attack is named after the Mexican grand master

Carlos Torre Repetto.

The Ruy Lopez is named after the 16th-century Spanish bishop.

Giuoco Piano is Italian for "quiet game". Well played, panel.

-Three out of three.

-Yep.

-Suzi, you're up to £600.

-Hey!

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One more question in this round.

Let's see if we can make it four out of four with this.

I know Clint Eastwood has.

I've got an inkling

but I'm going to let the panel fight it out on this one.

OK, Suzi's got an inkling.

Panel, can you fight it out for us here? Your debate starts now.

-Clint definitely.

-Clint, yeah.

-Clint Eastwood's out of it because he...

-She's right there.

-Yes.

-But that is as far as...

-Is Sonny Bono with Sonny and Cher?

-Yeah, I think so.

-He is, yes.

I think Jerry Springer. Something tells me

-Jerry Springer has been made a mayor.

-Yeah.

-Just for the most ridiculousness of it all.

-Yeah.

Yeah, well, he knows how to put on a good TV show, doesn't he?

-An entertaining one.

-So does David Letterman.

-Yeah.

Well, then, if we're going with that kind of criteria,

-then Sonny seems the one who wouldn't be in there.

-No, no.

But then, he was famous for his singing.

Yeah, I think the top two - Letterman or Springer.

And I could just imagine Jerry Springer

being somehow voted mayor or something.

Yeah, so shall we say we definitely don't think it's Jerry or Clint?

No, I think it COULD be Jerry.

-"Has never".

-Oh, never.

-Oh, sorry, yes, yes.

-How much faith can you put in him?

-Sorry!

-He doesn't even know what the question is.

-Sorry, yeah.

-It's the one who HASN'T, Phil.

-Yes.

-We think that Jerry and Clint have.

-Have.

-Yeah.

So, we're thinking David and Sonny are the ones who haven't.

So, what do you reckon, Chairman? Woman?

-Person. Thing.

-LAUGHTER

-Sorry, get it right, get it right.

-Shall we go with Sonny?

-Yes, I think Sonny Bono.

-Yeah.

So, this panel has agreed

that Sonny Bono has never been a mayor of a US town or city.

I actually thought maybe Jerry Springer wasn't.

But I also thought about Sonny Bono.

I'm torn between the two, to be honest, panel.

-Should I trust you guys?

-Oh.

-No!

-LAUGHTER

-Go with your instinct.

-Yes.

-Go with the gut.

-I'm going to go for Jerry Springer.

-Going against the panel.

-Mm.

-Come on, come on, Suzi.

-You are going for Jerry Springer.

So, for £200...

..who has never been a mayor of a US town or city?

Ooh, can't look!

-It's David Letterman.

-We were all wrong.

-We were.

That makes me feel better.

Nobody gets that one.

David Letterman has had no political career to date.

Jerry Springer was mayor of Cincinnati.

Clint Eastwood was elected mayor of Carmel in California in '86.

Sonny Bono, of Sonny and Cher fame,

was elected mayor of Palm Springs in 1988.

Tough luck, panel. Suzi, nothing for that,

-but you're still doing ever so well.

-OK.

At the end of Round 1, you're on £600.

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Thank you.

Which brings us nicely on, Suzi.

How do you think our panel are faring so far?

-Very well, actually.

-Mm.

-Yeah, we've sort of been in agreement

so far about most things, haven't we?

-We have.

-OK, well, look,

you are going to have to choose one at the end of the show.

-I know, I know.

-Still a couple of rounds to go.

Let's see how they do on pictures. It is time for Round 2.

-OK, Suzi, Round 2 is our picture round.

-OK.

-We need you to put three pictures in order for each question.

-Okey doke.

£300 for each correct answer. Possible £900 up for grabs.

-Okey doke.

-Here comes your first picture question. Best of luck.

Does it go clockwise or anticlockwise?

You know what, I'm trying to remember. They'll know it.

-They will know it.

-They will know.

-Of course they'll know it.

I know they'll know it. Michael Buerk will know it

because he's been round the world several times.

Yes, we agree Michael Buerk will know this.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, Michael, which way did you go round the world?

I've worked in all these places.

-Yes?

-And, well, the sun goes from east to west.

-East to west.

So, the burning question is Seoul, which is the capital of South Korea,

which side of the dateline is that?

-Ah.

-that is the main question.

So, dawn comes up or the midnight comes up in Cape Town

before Caracas, which is the capital of Venezuela.

Cape Town's there, Caracas is there, Seoul is the first.

-Seoul is first?

-Seoul is first

IF it's the right side of the dateline.

-Where's the dateline?

-Ah, well, I think Tokyo is ahead of us,

-so it gets the sun first.

-Right.

Tokyo IS ahead of us, definitely.

OK, well, Seoul is west of Tokyo,

so if Tokyo's that side of the dateline,

then Seoul must get it first,

Cape Town, obviously, afterwards, and Caracas...

-SUZI:

-Looks right to me.

..heading from east to west.

It would be my thought. What are your thoughts?

-Er, I'm going with you!

-We'll leave it with you.

LAUGHTER

-I think you're absolutely right.

-That one's definitely in the middle.

Yeah, well, the order of these two is absolutely right

but I think your reasoning sounds very logical.

-If we talk about it any more, we'll get it completely wrong.

-Go on.

Let's go with... Let's go with Suzi.

Suzi nods or shakes her head, it's for her to decide.

Hang on, leave Suzi out of this! Let's have a firm decision.

-OK, I am going to say that the panel has come to a decision.

-Yes.

We have put the cities in the order they see in the New Year.

Seoul, Cape Town, Caracas.

So, that is Naga and Phil trying to claim credit there

for Michael's working out. LAUGHTER

Well, we've got to do something on the panel!

-Can't just keep nodding.

-LAUGHTER

I'm going to agree with the panel on this one.

-Seoul, Cape Town and Caracas.

-OK, you're going with the panel.

To get you back on track, for £300,

is that correct order of seeing in midnight on 31st December,

starting with the first?

(I don't know.)

-It is!

-Yay, fantastic!

-Well done!

APPLAUSE

-Brilliant.

-Mwah! Mwah! Mwah!

Well done, Phil. Well done, Naga.

Well done, Michael.

I knew it was that side of the dateline!

In UK time, Seoul in South Korea is nine hours ahead of us,

so that will see in the New Year first.

Then Cape Town in South Africa is two hours ahead of us.

And then Caracas in Venezuela, four hours behind. Very well done.

Well played, panel. Well done, Suzi. £300 into the prize pot.

-You're up to £900.

-Yay!

APPLAUSE

Here comes your second picture question.

Let's see if we can keep it going.

Ooh!

-Ooh.

-Now, as a music manager...

..do you remember anything that happened in the '60s?

-LAUGHTER

-Well, you know what they say -

-if you remember, you weren't there.

-You weren't there.

Um, well, I should imagine

The Rolling Stones were going to be the biggest sellers.

Er, The Who next and then The Kinks, I think.

-OK, Suzi, well, hold that thought.

-Yeah.

Let's see if our panel can bring a bit of expertise to this.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Can I just say I wasn't around in the '60s.

-Nor was I!

-I wasn't quite sure.

-'66 - a very good year.

-I've actually heard of all these.

-Yeah.

You're not really that ancient, are you? You dye your hair, obviously.

-Yes.

-But The Who - were they a '60s band?

-I think so, yeah.

Tommy and all that. Little bit more to the... I'm not sure.

The Kinks were definitely in the '60s.

Waterloo Sunset and all that kind of stuff.

-You've got to think that the Stones...

-You would think.

OK, so we've got to start with the fewest, so...

I would think The Kinks, for some reason, I don't know why.

I'm just thinking The Who were slightly later but...

The Who - what did they sing?

They sung... Oh, what did they sing?

LAUGHTER

She's a music agent and she was there.

Yes, we're just confusing her. They were sort of the mods, you know.

-That's right. Oh, God, yes.

-They started a revolution.

Scooters and parkas and all that kind of stuff.

Well, I'd say Who instead of The Kinks,

mainly because they started the whole... They started a movement.

-So, you think The Kinks had fewer...

-Yes. Well, no, do you think?

-Well, you're the one who suggested it.

-Yeah, I'm going to go with that.

I am completely confused.

-This is the only one I kind of think is right.

-OK.

I think number ones might have been The Kinks. Oh!

-Yes, it's number ones.

-Yeah, number ones.

Leave it there, leave it there.

So, the panel thinks, starting with the fewest,

The Who, The Kinks, The Rolling Stones.

But you're on your own, Suzi.

So, they're pretty sure about the Stones

and then The Kinks and The Who, and The Who and The Kinks,

and it went swipsy-swapsy. What do you think?

I'm having the same dilemma as the panel about The Who and The Kinks.

The Who definitely had a lot of hits

and they did start the whole mod thing, you're right.

I remember, I was a mod as well, as well as a hippy.

-I was a mod first then a hippy.

-A mippy.

Yeah, mippy-dippy, dippy-hippy.

LAUGHTER

Um, I'll definitely go with Rolling Stones having the most hits.

I'm going to swap The Who for The Kinks.

Going against the panel with your music knowledge,

for £300, is that correct order?

Oh... Oh...

-Oh!

-It's the wrong order, Suzi.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

They were right, I bet! Yep.

OK, let's have a look at this.

-The Who had no number one singles in the 1960s.

-No way!

-What?

In fact, they are, to date, yet to have a number one single.

-Wow!

-Their highest charting single, My Generation, reached number two.

It was kept off the top by the Seeker song The Carnival Is Over.

-Gosh!

-The Kinks, three number ones, all in the '60s -

You Really Got Me, Tired Of Waiting For You and Sunny Afternoon.

And The Rolling Stones - everyone right on this one.

They had the most.

Eight number ones, to date, and they were all in the 1960s.

-So, nothing for that question, Suzi.

-OK.

Which means that you WERE there in the '60s, cos you can't remember.

-That's right!

-Let's see if we can get you back on track.

Here comes your next picture question.

-Ooh, that's hard!

-It is a toughie.

Got a feeling that the Star Wars is going to be the fewest

but I'm going to hand it over to you guys.

I think it's very, very wise on this question

to let the panel's extensive knowledge come together on this one.

-Mm, absolutely.

-Your debate starts now, Naga.

-Right.

-Tongue firmly in cheek, eh?

-Wombles.

Well, one thing that surprised me -

Suzi thinks that Harrison Ford would be the fewest.

I thought he would be in the most.

-He's been in eight.

-Eight?

-Well, you have the first six.

-Yeah.

-And you've had two more.

-Eight. Spot-on.

-Right.

-James...

-Carter. Jimmy, the peanut man.

-Yeah, Jimmy Carter.

-Er, James Madison.

-Good man. Two.

-Two.

-And I remember the Wombles being...

This is the order I would have put it in because...

-Did you have their album?

-I think I did.

-I don't believe it.

I think there is a vinyl album in my house with the Wombles.

-I loved the Wombles!

-Top 40. I don't think they did too many.

-I think they had quite a few.

-Did they?

I don't know if they were hits,

but I remember hearing a lot of Wombles music.

-I loved watching the Wombles.

-Yes, I think we've made that point.

Are we thinking swapping those then?

-Well, it's going to be four or five each way, isn't it?

-It is, yeah.

-We're sure on that.

-Mainly because...

-Well, we know that's eight.

-We're pretty sure on that.

-We think that's eight.

-NAGA GASPS

-Ooh, what?

-Oh, no!

-What?

The early films, so the...middle three,

-they were pre-Harrison Ford, so he wasn't in those.

-No.

So, he was in five. I got that wrong.

-I forgot that, cos I didn't think.

-Mm.

-Right.

-Five.

You're going for Wombles? That's a lot of tunes from the Wombles!

LAUGHTER

They must have been on Top Of The Pops all the time!

LAUGHTER

-You're on your own.

-That's it! We're going home!

-LAUGHTER MICHAEL:

-Come on.

-Five.

-We don't think... There's a couple or three of them.

I don't know whether there's too many of them.

-Shall we just go with that?

-Go on, yeah.

Starting with the fewest,

US presidents with the first name James,

Top 40 hits by the Wombles,

Star Wars featuring Harrison Ford.

Phil has his head in his hands,

Michael has disassociated himself from this, as this question features

what the hoi polloi below 60 are interested in.

LAUGHTER

-Can I disassociate myself from this, please?

-It's a tricky question.

Oh, it is a hard one.

I'm going to go with the panel because I haven't got a clue.

A very good reason. You haven't got a clue,

you're going to go with the panel.

-For £300, is that the correct order?

-We're as bad as each other.

I'll be amazed.

Go on!

-Oh!

-It's the wrong order.

The correct order is...

-Ah.

-The Wombles have smashed it!

-Everyone loves the Wombles!

So, Star Wars films featuring Harrison Ford, Naga.

There have been four Star Wars films featuring Harrison Ford.

-Was he not in...? He wasn't in the last one?

-No, he's not in Rogue One.

-There have been six US presidents with the first name James.

-Ooh.

James Madison, James Monroe, James Polk,

James Buchanan, James Garfield and Jimmy Carter.

-The Wombles...

-I told you.

-..did smash it, Phil.

-Yeah!

-They have had, to date, 11 UK Top 40 hits.

-What?

They were really popular.

As we all know, the Wombles were a hit factory, with hits like this...

# Under ground, over ground Wombling free

# The Wombles of Wimbledon Common, are we... #

Their biggest hit was Wombling Merry Christmas,

which got to number two, so they are equal with number twos with The Who.

LAUGHTER

You could have phrased that a little better.

No, I knew exactly how it was phrased, Michael!

LAUGHTER Suzi, nothing for that.

Your total, at the end of Round 2, is still pretty good - £900.

APPLAUSE

OK, well, we still have another round to go.

-OK.

-£1,500 up for grabs.

-OK.

-Let's play Round 3.

OK, Suzi, in Round 3, you'll face questions

that contain three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

-Only one of them is true.

-OK.

We need you to find the true statement.

£500 for each correct answer, a possible £1,500 up for grabs.

Here we go.

I hate to say it but I haven't got a clue again! This is really hard.

-I wasn't around in the 1920s, believe it or not.

-We believe you!

LAUGHTER

Um, no, I'm going to hand it over to the panel.

OK, panel, let's see if we can bring anything to this.

Your debate starts now.

-Who's Betty Boop?

-Betty Boop?

-Oh, she's lovely.

-Big head.

Character - big head, big eyes, big black hair, little red dress.

-Yes, red dress.

-But I don't know if it was in the 1920s

and I don't know if I saw her in a film.

Betty Boop did do that little dance, didn't she? What was that?

-The Charleston?

-Black bottom, or something?

-No, sort of like...

-That is the Charleston.

-Yes, when was that about?

You've got to do something with the heels, haven't you?

Or was that '30s? It is about that time.

I don't know when the first officially designated

-Winter Olympic Games took place.

-No, we haven't got a clue.

We haven't got a clue. My instinct is to go for Betty Boop.

-If in doubt, go with Betty Boop.

-You're the sports fundi.

How long have the Winter Olympic Games been going?

I'm not a specialist on winter sports, I must admit.

-More sort of beaches and cricket.

-Fair weather.

Not a lot of snow in the Caribbean.

If it hasn't got palm trees, you don't want to know, do you?

-Don't go there, mate.

-I know. Vineyards.

-But it could be around at that time, 1920s.

-What, Winter Olympic Games?

That means they would have all been sort of wearing rollnecks and...

Yeah, that kind of thing, all looking like Mallory at Everest.

I can't see that, can you?

-No Lycra.

-LAUGHTER

-Star Spangled... No idea.

-So, if you had to pick one...

I'm going to pick Betty Boop.

I'm going to pick the Olympic Games.

-Michael?

-Pick the bottom one.

LAUGHTER

Ooh!

-Pick the Star Spangled Banner and then we've covered it all.

-We have.

-Right, I'm taking an executive decision.

-Go on.

-Yep.

-Go on, skip.

The panel has decided the answer is Betty Boop.

OK, the panel have decided that it is Betty Boop,

without even discussing the Star Spangled Banner.

No, we didn't give that much thought.

I'll go with Betty Boop

because I've got no other way of really organising the others.

-I just don't know!

-OK, you're going with the panel.

-Yeah.

Just stop looking at me as if I'm the loser of the group.

Naga, I'm not just looking at YOU that way.

LAUGHTER

Did Betty Boop star in her first feature film in the 1920s,

-for £500?

-Go on, Betty.

Oh...

-It was the Olympics.

-Was the Winter Olympic Games.

The first officially designated Winter Olympic Games took place

in 1924 in Chamonix in France.

Betty's first film appearance was in Dizzy Dishes in 1930.

Star Spangled Banner was officially adopted as the national anthem

-by an act of Congress not until 1931.

-Ah.

Nothing for that, Suzi.

You're still on £900, but £1,000 still up for grabs.

Here comes your next question.

LAUGHTER

Wow!

LAUGHTER

Oh, I don't know...

-This is a newish planet, so I don't think it's William III.

-OK.

I think it's B or C, but I'm going to hand it over to Michael.

-LAUGHTER

-Oh, thank you VERY much!

OK, you're handing Uranus to Michael.

-In safe hands.

-I'll grab it with both hands, of course.

LAUGHTER

-Er, panel, your debate starts now.

-I think Suzi's right.

William III's William of Orange, isn't he?

So, we talking about the end of the...er, 16th century.

People didn't even have telescopes then.

And "rotates in exactly the same direction".

But are they talking about its rotation on its own axis

-or its rotation around the sun?

-But that's not...

-That's not a rotation, is it? That's an orbit.

-Oh, it's an orbit.

-Yeah.

But I've never heard of rings around Uranus.

-LAUGHTER

-Phil, grow up!

-Sorry.

You know, this isn't Test Match Special.

-I might have heard that.

-You're not Brian Johnston.

I think I might have heard "rings around Uranus"

because there was a load of tittering on the news.

Is it stuck in your schoolboy mind?

All you boys on the news were talking about it, I think,

and they said it was like Saturn. It's not the only one.

I do have some memory of definitely rings being found around a planet.

That's right, about five years ago.

Whether it was around Uranus, I don't know.

-It's the one we're all veering towards isn't it?

-Yeah.

-And it's the one that's made us titter the most.

-Yes.

OK, so the panel thinks the true statement

is that scientists have identified rings around Uranus.

SUZI LAUGHS

-Oh...

-Good delivery, Naga. Well done.

-I'm going with B.

-Yes?

-Yeah.

-OK, you're going with the panel.

-Not just because they've said so,

because I think they're probably right.

-MICHAEL:

-Independent thinker.

-Come on.

-We need this to be right.

-Oh, please.

-Here we go.

For £500, have scientists identified rings around Uranus?

Yay! Yes!

-APPLAUSE

-Well done!

-Well done.

-Ah, thank you!

Very, very well done, panel.

English astronomer William Herschel discovered the planet in 1781.

Herschel provisionally named it Georgium Sidus,

in honour of his patron, King George III, not William III.

After careful analysis and a closer view,

thanks to the results from Voyager 2 in 1986,

scientists have now identified over 12 rings around Uranus.

-So, titter ye not!

-Yeah.

-You were right to go with the panel that time.

-I was.

£500 into the prize pot. You're now up to £1,400.

APPLAUSE

Final question of this round.

A chance to get this up to £1,900, Suzi. Here we go.

Oh! Did she live on the coast?

They're all very leftfield, aren't they?

Panel, help!

-Don't look at us!

-OK, panel, can you help us out in this?

Your debate starts now.

I can answer Suzi's question. She didn't quite live on the coast.

She had a rather famous house

-called Green something or other...

-SUZI:

-Yeah.

..on the River Dart, quite close to the coast. That's as far as I...

That's as far as I go.

-She surely wrote more than one play, didn't she?

-Miss Marple...

-She wrote novels, didn't she?

-Oh, yes, absolutely.

And they've been translated to the films.

-What's that play that goes on forever that's...

-Mousetrap?

The Mousetrap. Isn't that Agatha Christie?

She surely wrote more than one play. She was very prolific.

I wouldn't be surprised if she played Miss Marple in a film,

but I've not seen it. I'm not a massive fan.

-I think she was quite reclusive.

-What she did...

And I know this because it happened round the corner from where I live

and at sometime, I think '30s or whenever it was,

she disappeared for several days. It was all over the papers.

-And then, she turned up...

-At The Swan in Harrogate.

Cos I stayed at The Swan in Harrogate

-and I'm sure that she turned up there.

-Very mysterious.

-That could be total fabrication.

-Yeah.

-It's a brilliant story!

-I think that's true.

-Hasn't helped us though, has it?

-It hasn't helped us.

If she only wrote one play and it was The Mousetrap,

my thinking is that The Mousetrap, obviously, is so famous,

you'd think she'd have written more plays to get to such a good play.

-Yeah.

-Perhaps she just did Mousetrap and it was so big

that she just put her feet up. Didn't need to do any more.

-Well, went surfing.

-Went surfing.

-LAUGHTER

-And did a bit of acting.

-Suzi said it's leftfield.

What could be more leftfield

than the idea of Agatha Christie on a surfboard?

LAUGHTER

-We need to get to an answer.

-We do.

-Surfer.

-You're going surfer?

-You're going surfer?

-Surfer.

Or is that just ridiculous?

LAUGHTER

The panel has decided that the answer we're going with

is that Agatha Christie was a keen surfer.

I'm not even sure that surfing was really that popular

when she was around. It's much more of a recent sport, isn't it?

I'm going to go for "only wrote one play".

OK, you think she only wrote one play.

-You're going against the panel.

-Wise.

For £500, the true statement is...

Agatha Christie was a keen surfer.

-Surfer? That is incredible! Wow!

-It is so random...

-So random.

-..that it's true.

Good knowledge, panel(!) PATRICK CLEARS THROAT

LAUGHTER

Agatha Christie is thought to have been

-one of the first British people to try stand-up surfing.

-Wow.

The Museum of British Surfing know of only one other British person

surfing before her and that was the future Edward VIII.

She wrote many plays, including, Michael,

The Mousetrap and Black Coffee.

She died in 1976 and she never played Miss Marple.

-Suzi, I'm sorry, nothing for that.

-It's all right.

It means, at the end of Round 3, your prize pot is £1,400.

APPLAUSE

-It's still quite a tidy sum of money.

-Yes, of course!

If you manage to get that today, any plans for it?

Um...I think I'm gong to take a trip to Rajasthan.

I've already been to India once in my 40s

and I travelled all around on my own for about six weeks

and Rajasthan allegedly,

is where my mother's father was from.

She was adopted, so we never really knew where he was from,

so I'd like to take a trip out there

and do the...Marigold Hotel experience.

Very good. There is only one question between you and that money.

-That's right.

-It is the Final Debate.

In our Final Debate, you have six possible answers,

-but only three are correct.

-OK.

-You need to get all three.

-Whoo!

-However, you are not on your own.

You will get to choose one of these fine brains

to help you with this debate.

So, Suzi, who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

Will you be taking breakfast at Tiffany's with Michael?

Will you be wombling free with Naga?

Or will you be bowled over by Phil?

Oh, I think I'm going to go with Michael, please.

OK, Michael, please join us for the Final Debate.

APPLAUSE

So, Michael, Suzi has put her faith in you for the final debate.

-Confident, ready to go?

-Absolutely, absolutely.

Nothing could possibly go wrong.

Anything you want to see coming up, guys? Anything you want to avoid?

Well, just the questions that I know the answers to, thank you very much.

-Good.

-Yeah.

-You like that.

OK, Suzi, because it is the Final Debate,

you do get to choose between these two categories.

Have a look, chat it through with Michael. Tell me what you think.

That's really awful!

Tell me what you REALLY think, Suzi.

LAUGHTER

-I used to watch Wimbledon.

-Yeah.

But that's about all I ever watched and I haven't for years,

-so I think African geography, don't you?

-Yeah.

-It's pot luck.

-It's the only thing we can do.

-It is.

-Yeah.

-It is.

I think it's going have to be African geography.

-African geography. We're wishing you all the best on this.

-Thank you.

£1,400 up for grabs. 45 seconds on the clock.

We need three correct answers from this.

Here comes your Final Debate question on African geography.

You time starts now.

-Algeria's out.

-Algeria's out, yeah.

Somalia borders Sudan,

so it probably doesn't border Kenya.

Somalia DOES border Kenya.

Does it? OK. What about Tanzania?

-Tanzania borders Kenya.

-OK.

And the other three?

-Angola is in sort of West-Central Africa, a long way away.

-OK.

-Namibia's next to...

-South Africa.

-Next to South Africa, underneath Angola.

-20 seconds.

-Uganda.

-So, by process of exclusion here, it's not Algeria,

it's not Angola, it's not Namibia.

So, it's Somalia, Tanzania and Uganda.

-Er, yeah, I think that's probably right, yeah.

-OK.

-Yeah.

-I think we've got it.

-Do you want to stop the clock?

-I do.

OK, stop the clock. Three answers.

Somalia.

Tanzania.

Uganda.

-OK, Suzi, fingers crossed.

-Mm, everything crossed.

Everything crossed.

£1,400 up for grabs.

We need all three of these to be correct.

The first country you said bordered Kenya is Somalia.

Is Somalia correct to keep us on track for £1,400?

It is! APPLAUSE

Very well done.

-Next you said Tanzania.

-Mm-hmm.

To keep you in the game and on track for the money,

does Tanzania border Kenya?

It does! APPLAUSE

So, when you were chatting it through,

you definitely thought Algeria didn't,

you definitely thought Angola didn't, but you plumped for Uganda.

-We did.

-Mm-hmm.

-We need this to be right.

-We do.

To leave with £1,400, does Uganda border Kenya?

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Thank you so much!

-Suzi, very well done, very well done.

-Fantastic!

-Rajasthan, here we come!

-Rajasthan, here we come - absolutely!

Well done, Suzi, you've just won £1,400.

APPLAUSE

Very good knowledge, Michael. Very well done.

-I was the BBC Africa correspondent.

-I was just about to say.

The BBC Africa correspondent does his thing. Very well done.

-Well played, Michael. Give it up one more time for Suzi.

-Bravo!

-APPLAUSE

-Thank you.

That is it for Debatable but there's just enough time for me to thank

our fantastic panel today - to Michael Buerk,

to Naga Munchetty and to Phil Tufnell.

APPLAUSE

I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.

APPLAUSE