Episode 16 Debatable

Hello and welcome to Debatable,

where today one player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

But, as always, they are not on their own.

They will have a panel of well-known faces

debating their way to the answer.

Will they be all talk and no action?

As always, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

Talking the talk on today's show,

we have broadcaster and campaigner June Sarpong,

we have journalist John Sergeant,

and actor and comedian Liz Carr.

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It is a strong panel.

I'm feeling the knowledge, I'm feeling the debating skills.

-Liz?

-Why?

Why is that?! That puts a lot of pressure on me, there.

What are we hoping to see come up, Liz?

What topics are we strongest on?

Columbo. Cats.

Now, is that Cats the musical or cats the species?

No, my cats, because I've got three.

So unless it's about MY cats, it's not going well.

This is very niche, Liz.

Yeah. And 1983.

Why 1983?

-I don't know, it was just quite a good year for me.

-OK.

June, is there any particular '70s TV shows,

years or pets that you are...?

'70s? How old do you think I am?

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No, it's just that Columbo was in the '70s...

No, I'm more S Club 7, Patrick.

And what member of S Club 7 would that be, June?

-Rachel.

-Now, did she dance on Strictly?

She certainly did. She wasn't dancing with me,

so she got on all right.

OK, panel, shall we meet today's contestant?

-Yeah.

-Oh, yes, please.

-It is Paul from Sale.

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-Hello, Patrick.

-How you doing, Paul?

-I'm well, thank you.

-Good.

Tell us a bit about yourself.

I'm Paul from Sale, I'm a married man, three children.

-Yes.

-I work as a solicitor

and I have a small menagerie of animals at home.

So, as well as three children,

a dog, a cat, chickens and a stick insect.

Do you occasionally throw the stick insect and the dog brings him back?

The dog at the moment hasn't quite worked out

the whole stick thing at the moment.

He'll happily look at a stick as we throw it and think,

"You threw it, you go and get it."

And what you do in your spare time?

Primarily, play five-a-side football.

Would you say, Paul, you are a competitive man?

Most definitely. If there's a 50/50 ball,

it's 60/40 in my eyes in my favour.

OK. This is the type of aggression that we need going into a panel

that is bursting with apathy.

What do you make of today's magnificent panel?

I'm blessed by such a fantastic range of skills

-and attributes and knowledge.

-Hang on a second,

as I just wave away all the smoke as Paul has blown up our panel,

we just need to get that out of the way.

There it is, I think we're ready to give this a go.

-Are we?

-Yes, we are, let's do it.

OK, here it comes, let's play Round One.

Paul, this round is multiple choice.

Each question contains four possible answers,

each correct answer is worth £200.

Four questions in this round, a possible £800 up for grabs.

-Ready to play?

-I am.

Here we go, let's get cracking, here's your first question.

-My gut feeling says leotard.

-Your gut feeling is leotard.

-Yes.

-Let's see if our fashionable panel can sort this out.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-Hmm.

-Well...

-OK.

Leotard, I mean, if there is a place, I want to go there.

I don't want to wear it, but I definitely want to go there,

so I'm kind of with Paul on that.

That was my immediate reaction.

Shall we go through some of the other ones?

-Yeah.

-So, what about jodhpurs?

Well, that's in India, isn't it?

-Jodhpur?

-Oh, OK.

-That's what I was thinking.

-Bikini, that's an atoll, isn't it?

Is it? Because that is the one I wasn't sure about.

-In the Pacific.

-See, this is why...

And what about Balaclava?

And Balaclava was in the Crimean War,

and that's why they wore balaclavas.

I was thinking the Battle of Balaclava, I'd heard of that.

I thought that was a place.

I think we're pretty well in agreement with Paul.

Yeah, if there isn't a place called Leotard,

I think we now need to create one.

Exactly. And what does that place look like?

-Exactly.

-You could be the President of Leotard.

Does that mean I have to wear one? Then I have a problem with that.

No, John, if it was based on wearing it, you will be the President.

-You will be the President!

-Oh, no!

Leotard, shmeotard, I say.

So, we're all agreed, I think?

-Oh, yes.

-For us, the answer is leotard.

John Sergeant, bringing in his deep bikini knowledge there, Paul,

and the panel believe, like you, it's leotard.

I'm feeling confident.

Yes, leotard.

Going for leotard.

For £200, to get you up and running, the correct answer is...

It is leotard, well done. Well played, Paul.

-Thanks very much.

-Well done, panel.

-Thank you, panel.

Jodhpur is a town and district in Rajasthan in India,

where the men have traditionally worn trousers similar to

what we know as jodhpurs.

The bikini, you are correct, John Sergeant,

is named after an atoll in the Marshall Islands,

the scene of the US nuclear testing in 1946.

Balaclavas were worn and named after the village Balaclava

near Sevastopol.

The leotard is named after Jules Leotard, Liz...

-Yes.

-..a 19th-century French trapeze artist

who first sported the outfit.

Those are the facts, but none of that matters

because you have got the correct answer.

It means, Paul, you're up and running.

£200 into the prize pot.

-Yeah!

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OK, here we go. Here's your next question.

I'm going to go with Falcon, but it's a gut feeling.

There's no evidence in my mind I can draw down on,

so I'm going to say Falcon.

OK, let's see if the panel can bring some evidence to this.

June is squinting - is that knowledge? Is that pain?

Is that trapped wind?

-Trapped wind.

-Trapped wind.

OK, panel, your debate starts now.

Right, they're all birds, aren't they?

-They are.

-That's true.

Can we start talking about Booby?

That would be so unfortunate, if that was his real name.

It would be so embarrassing.

This man is a hero!

I think we have to remove Booby from...

Just because you think it's amusing.

They'd remove it from the history books, wouldn't they?

Just say, "Let's call him Captain Scott, don't refer to Booby."

You're quite obsessed with the Booby.

-OK, shall we...?

-Move away from the Booby.

-Shall we FLY on?

-Let's fly on!

OK, what about talking about Gull?

No. I think... My gut's saying Falcon.

I think his parents would be, "Robert Falcon Scott."

And Robert F Scott.

-Yes.

-It's Robert F, I think.

Robert M... Mallard, but Mallard...

Also it means, they may have thought of various things, right?

You can imagine the Scott parents,

they want to give him all the advantages he needs,

with a strong name.

-Yep.

-OK, Booby, no.

-No way.

-Mallard, no.

-No.

-Gull, no.

-No.

Falcon, yes!

-Come on.

-Yes.

-Yes.

OK, so, I think our advice is pretty straightforward - it is Falcon.

Based on absolutely no knowledge whatsoever,

our panel have convinced themselves, but have they convinced you?

They believe it is Robert Falcon Scott.

The tidal wave of enthusiasm from the panel is such that...

it's cascaded over me.

I cannot do anything but agree.

We are saying Falcon, for £200.

Is that the correct answer?

-It is!

-Yay!

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We're on a roll now, aren't we?

-PAUL:

-Get in there!

The collective relief from the panel there.

Falcon was the surname of Scott's godparents,

Michael and Sophia Falcon.

He was known by his father as Con, an abbreviation of that middle name.

Very well done. Good knowledge, Paul.

£200 into the prize pot.

It means you're up to £400.

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Two out of two, two questions to go in this round.

Here comes your next one.

I just don't know.

Panel, please help me.

OK, panel, your debate starts now.

Right, now, June...

No, we need to go to Liz with the cats.

No, no, but remember, I did say not the musical,

it's my own three cats.

But talk about them anyway.

-I think you've prepared for it.

-What are they called?

One of them is a feral cat, so I called him Will Feral.

Oh, I see.

And the other two have got quite bonkers names.

So, were any of them named after Nobel Prize-winners?

I don't think Will Ferrell's won one...

Yet, yet!

But TS Eliot did write Old Possum's Book...

Old Possum's Book Of Cats.

-And I wonder...

-Did he get the Nobel Prize?

-I don't think he did.

-I wouldn't imagine Starlight Express.

-No way.

-I mean, it's a musical on roller skates.

I can't imagine that being a Nobel Prize-winning...

I think we can rule that out.

OK. Now, what about...? I think we can rule out Cats too.

I think we can. Even Will Feral - sorry, out.

Really? They're at home watching this now, I'm sure.

Don't think TS Eliot, I mean, OK...

-I think...

-I'm not convinced.

Well, Phantom Of The Opera, what about Victor Hugo?

-Is that possible?

-Hmm, I don't think so.

-No?

-But he could be.

-I don't know.

There's The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, which can be confusing.

I think it's The Woman In White.

Somebody famous wrote that, didn't they?

But it's also... It's bit more meaningful.

-It's got the word "woman", so...

-Woman, that makes it good.

There you are.

So I would have thought we've got it.

The answer must be something which has woman in the title.

Fine.

Is that a fair way of looking at it?

I can't bring anything more.

All right, we think that it's The Woman In White.

John, that is a ridiculous way...

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..to work this out.

Look, it's at least a thought, isn't it?

-Oh, it's a thought!

-There's logic there, a lot of heavy thinking.

It is a thought.

-Paul?

-In the absence of anything that I understand or know about

the answer to the question, I'm going to have to go with the panel.

-The Woman In White.

-OK, we're going for The Woman In White.

We are discounting Will Feral and all of Liz's cats.

For £200, is that the correct answer?

Oh!

No way!

Are you serious?!

It's TS Eliot, is it, obviously?

Based on the TS Eliot book of children's poems,

Old Possum's Book Of Practical Cats,

Elliott won the 1948 Nobel Prize for literature.

-You did say.

-You did, Liz, we should have trusted you on this.

I'm afraid, Paul, no cash for that.

-There's one more chance in this round, £200 up for grabs.

-Excellent.

Let's see if you can get back on track with this one.

Osculation makes me think of some sort of movement,

so nose-picking or kissing. I'm going to go for kissing.

-OK, you're thinking kissing.

-Yes.

Let's see if our romantic panel can sort this out for you.

Your debate starts now.

These people are only practising, though, aren't they?

-Yeah.

-If you were practising...

-Yes.

So, you can't practise kissing.

Trainspotting, can you really practise that?

I don't... Well.

Trainspotting, are you an osculist?

-I don't think so.

-I think it's picking your nose.

I think it's nose-picking or kissing.

Now, the argument is, nose-picking is very embarrassing.

So, you want to give it some fancy title, don't you?

-Hmm.

-So someone says, "Are you picking your nose?"

-"No, I'm just osculating."

-Osculating, yeah.

But for almost that reason, I think it's kissing.

"Ooh, I was indulging in a little osculation."

You know what I mean?

That does sound quite sultry, doesn't it? Yeah.

No, it's osculation...

-Osculation, mmm.

-Yes.

-It's how you say it.

-Seduction, osculation...

-No.

-I think I'm for kissing.

What about you, June, where are you on this?

Well, I was nose-picking or kissing,

but when Liz explained it so well, in such a sultry manner...

I mean, just say it, say it yourself.

I've never been osculated.

-Oh, John, I feel so sorry for you!

-There's still time!

-Where are you on this?

-I'm going to go with Liz, kissing.

OK, two against one, it is kissing.

John very skilfully removing himself from this decision.

-Yes.

-That's what we like in a panel, we like unity.

-Absolutely.

-They have gone for kissing.

I'm going to follow Liz.

I ought to have followed you last time, you were right then,

I'm hoping you're going to be right now.

I've got a horrible feeling that it is going to be nose-picking,

but I'm going to stick with kissing.

OK, you're going for kissing.

Is osculation kissing?

For £200.

I can't look.

-It is!

-Well done!

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Thank you, Liz.

-Well done, Liz.

-Very well done, Paul.

Well played, June, well played, Liz.

Who got it right, as chair,

deliberately choosing the maximum vote...?

Well, it wasn't your idea, it was Liz's idea.

But I brought everyone together and delivered...

Thank you for allowing democracy.

You could never tell that John Sergeant has spent his life

around politicians, the way he has claimed credit for a decision

-that wasn't his.

-That wasn't his!

Derived from the Latin, with the meaning "os",

which is "mouth" in that language.

In mathematics, it also means the point on two curves

at which they come into contact, ie, the point where two lines kiss.

Well played, Paul.

Back on track, another £200 into your prize pot.

It means, at the end of Round One, you're up to £600.

Yeah! Nice!

-Super.

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This is the point, Paul, where we turn to our panel, we look at them,

and we judge them.

-Oh, no.

-How do you think the panel's doing so far?

Liz is clearly head and shoulders above the others.

-Well done, Liz.

-I'll give you that.

We're very proud of you, Liz, the whole team are proud of you.

-Must try harder.

-We don't care about our own individual performances.

No, we don't. It's teamwork.

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OK, make sure and pay close attention.

You can only choose one of them in today's Final Debate.

So, let's see how they cope with pictures. It is time for Round Two.

OK, Round Two is our picture round, Paul.

You must place three pictures in the correct order.

£300 for each correct answer.

A possible £900 up for grabs.

OK, here's your first picture question.

So, the one who's scored the fewest.

The problem is, Scotland's not had that much opportunity

of playing international footie matches, so...

We'll leave it there, I'll apologise to our viewers in Scotland,

and we'll hand this over to the panel.

Panel, if you can possibly be more diplomatic, your debate starts now.

Well, look, which ones...? I don't know anything about football.

-No.

-Neither do I.

-No.

Do you know about football?

I mean, I've heard of Kenny Dalglish.

It's almost wishful thinking, because my family used to support,

or do support Liverpool,

and so I think of him in growing up.

So I'd like him not to be the least.

I think he's the first, I think he scored the most.

I think he's first, because we know him, we like him.

Because we like him, we're going to give him the most goals.

-Yep, we start with you.

-I'm sorry to lose Kenny, but there we are.

But I'm happy to have him.

Right. All we've got to do is work out about these.

He doesn't strike me, get me with confidence.

But I've heard of him. I've never heard of Gordon Strachan.

-Yeah.

-It's that bad for me, I'd almost go alphabetically.

Do you know what I mean?

Would you go A for Ally, G for Gordon?

That's true. I'm thinking first names. I'd go Ally, Gordon, Kenny.

And it's because I have no critical faculties.

But Gordon looks like the kind of guy, if he's going to score,

he's going to score, doesn't he? He looks quite serious.

He looks quite serious, but on the other hand,

Ally looks as if, "I've just done it, I'm pretty good," doesn't he?

Yeah. You're right. There's smugness there.

There's a pride and a smugness you get from scoring a lot of goals.

Let's do the alphabetical order thing.

Do you think that's wise?

What will the Scottish football fans think?

-I know.

-They'll just think, "These are duds," won't they?

-Yeah, but we are.

-But we are on this subject.

Shall we switch these over?

No, we stay as we are.

OK. Right. We're staying as we are.

OK, so we've agreed -

Gordon Strachan, Ally McCoist and Kenny Dalglish.

So, Paul, based on the fact that Liz likes Kenny

and so therefore his picture is in front of her,

and June and John can't really be bothered to swap Gordon or Ally,

they have gone for Gordon Strachan, Ally McCoist and Kenny Dalglish.

I agree that Kenny must be the most successful of the three.

I think, in relation to the positions they played,

I'm going to put Gordon first, Ally second, Kenny third.

You're going with the knowledge of the panel.

Not really knowledge, is it?

Supplemented by my own meagre knowledge, yes.

Right, well...

For £300, of course, this must be the correct order.

-It is!

-Yeah!

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-High five!

-Yeah, that's it!

Well done.

It's knowledge, it's deep knowledge in Scottish football.

We knew, we knew.

Gordon Strachan, who became Scotland manager in 2013,

has only scored five goals as a player for Scotland.

-Yeah.

-Ally McCoist, 19, and that's why he looks slightly smugger.

Ah!

Kenny Dalglish is the joint Scottish scorer, along with Denis Law,

30 goals. Magnificent football knowledge from the panel.

-Very well played by Paul.

-Yeah!

-It means £300 into your prize pot, you're up to £900.

-Lovely.

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-OK, Paul.

-Mmm-hmm.

Here comes your next picture question.

I assume B is a Commonwealth country,

I just cannot remember which one it is.

A and C...

A, I've never seen before in my life.

So, panel, help, please.

OK, you're not sure about this, Paul.

Let's see if the panel can sort it out.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Can I go?

Yes, certainly.

Liz, yours is Ghana, which is the motherland.

That's where my parents are from.

-Fantastic.

-So that's G.

So, I mean, do you want this?

-Just for the...?

-Can I?

-Maybe.

-Yeah.

-Maybe we should go that's first.

Then you can at least have it for a while.

Right, you have this one.

-Whatever it is.

-Thank you.

Yeah!

-I'm staying with the Commonwealth.

-Yes.

-It's...

-New Zealand.

-Is that New Zealand?

New Zealand, yeah.

-You've got New Zealand.

-I've got New Zealand.

Yeah. So, alphabetical order.

-You keep G.

-No!

-Aren't you meant to be from Ghana?

Yeah, but it's not... It's the middle.

You can have a bit of Ghana in your life.

-I've been to Ghana, is that...?

-Have you?

How many times have you been there?

I think I was there for about 12 hours.

-Oh.

-I was on one of these prime ministerial trips.

-OK.

-Am I of the mistaken belief that you've put these flags in order

without attempting to identify the one with...?

Yeah, we don't need to know the name, though.

That's the critical thing, all we've got to do is agree the order.

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They're in alphabetical order.

The fact that we don't know what one of them is called...

-Is irrelevant!

-Too bad, it doesn't matter.

That's it. We refuse to reveal which these countries are

as a matter of principle.

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-LIZ:

-Genius.

So, this is the answer.

Country... We call it, for the sake of argument, country A,

country B and country C.

Just for the sake of argument.

-Or debate.

-Right.

-Paul, I'm not quite sure what happened there.

-No!

Flag A, the colours there remind me of either the Ukrainian flag

or possibly the Swedish flag, the blue and yellow.

Looking at it, I've not seen that flag at all,

so I'm thinking it's new country.

Reluctantly, I'm going to have to go with the order

the panel's put it in.

-LIZ:

-Oh, no, don't.

You're going with the panel.

So, for £300, is that the correct order?

Oh, my God!

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What is going on here?!

Intuition, that's what's going on here.

We're talking exceptional, aren't we?

-We are.

-Consummate knowledge.

We're talking of three hearts beating in the same moment together.

-Four, really.

-Four.

Four.

Very well done, Paul.

I'm not even going to say well done to you lot.

Flag A is Bosnia-Herzegovina.

-LIZ:

-Yes, it is, it is.

New Zealand had a two-stage referendum on their flag

in 2015 and 2016.

The first stage was to choose an alternative design,

and the second stage was whether to change it from the original flag.

In March 2016, by 57% to 43%, they decided to keep their flag.

-Brilliant.

-Well done, Paul.

That's another £300 into the prize pot.

You're up to £1,200.

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And one more picture question to go.

Here it comes.

If only we had some sort of political expert on the panel.

Hmm, maybe someone who was a political correspondent

and someone who appears regularly on Question Time, to sort this out.

Yeah, but somebody good.

Yeah, somebody good. Exactly.

That's trouble, someone who knows things...

My money is on Liz to sort this out.

-Yep.

-Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, we know the Greens have one

-with Caroline Lucas.

-Yeah.

-Yes.

-Who we love.

-Well, I do.

-Liberal Democrats?

-What about them?

-Six... Seven, isn't it?

Something like that. Seven or eight?

-OK.

-Couple of taxis.

-Yep!

-Not many.

Not many. Plaid Cymru?

Did they get any?

-I'd have said they had a few.

-Maybe two.

We're not talking about what should have happened,

-we're talking about what did happen.

-Yeah, no.

I think they do. What do you think?

-Is it between one and six or seven?

-No, I think it's a zero.

Oh, you think it's a zero? OK.

So, we're going from the lowest, aren't we?

-Yep.

-From the lowest to the highest.

So, the lowest, we think, actually, you've got Plaid.

We then think we're going to change these around.

We're going to swap.

So, this is our order.

We're saying Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Lib Dems.

I think they're slightly wrong.

I'm picking up something June said.

I think Plaid Cymru must have at least one or two.

They always seem to get the MP for Anglesey and those sort of areas.

So I'm having the Green Party as the fewest, Plaid Cymru, I think,

have got about two or three, and then Liberal Democrats, a few more,

but not many more.

So you are overruling your cabinet on this?

In a couple of moments' time,

I will find out whether that's been the best decision or the worst.

-Could be.

-OK, Paul, you say it is

the Green Party with the fewest seats,

then Plaid Cymru, then the Liberal Democrats.

Is that the correct order?

-Well done!

-Yeah!

-APPLAUSE

Very well played.

-Excellent.

-You were right to go against the panel.

In 2015, the Green Party received their record number of votes

at a general election with over a million votes,

but they still only won one seat.

Plaid Cymru won three seats.

-I always thought they'd do well.

-Yes.

And the Lib Dems, you were right, two taxis, eight.

Well played, Paul, right to go against our political panel.

At the end of Round Two, your prize pot is up to £1,500.

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Well played, Paul. Right to go against the panel.

Which brings us nicely onto, how is our panel faring?

Liz and June, up to now,

both of them are sort of neck and neck as the most adept.

But John, God bless him, is bringing out the best in the other two,

so that in itself is a skill.

So John is drawing the knowledge from the people with the knowledge?

One on one, he might have the same effect with me.

That's the first big mistake you've made!

OK, still £1,500 up for grabs, it's time for Round Three.

In Round Three, you're going to face questions that contain

three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

All we need you to find is the correct statement.

Because it's the final round, £500 each correct answer,

a possible £1,500 up for grabs.

Here comes your first question.

My gut feeling is B. UB40, I don't think they had 40.

And I don't know enough about S Club 7.

Or if I do know enough, I'm not admitting it on public,

prime-time telly.

OK, you're going to hold your S Club 7 knowledge.

I'm sure someone on our panel has some S Club 7 knowledge, June,

that they can bring to this debate.

Your debate, panel, starts now.

-Come on, June!

-Am I allowed to sing some S Club?

No, certainly not.

Because that will put the rest of us in the shade.

# Don't stop moving on up! #

Yeah, love a bit of that.

No, they didn't have seven.

-Really?

-No, no, no, no.

-How many, then?

Probably about three or four.

Yeah, I think we can agree on that.

Let's go to the bottom one, UB40.

I don't think that's going to be right, is it?

-No.

-It's too easy, isn't it?

-Yeah, and I think Paul...

-Let's try and think in a wider way

about not just the pop music industry, but the whole world.

Yeah, like 40 UK top 40...

-No.

-No, that sounds wrong.

-It sounds silly.

-I don't even think they've recorded 40 songs.

-I hope they haven't.

-Oh, I like UB40!

-Really? Hmm.

-Bit of Red Red Wine.

If they said 39 or 41, I might think, "Oh, it's possible."

Yeah. But 40, no.

-No.

-And I think Paul's right -

wasn't there a battle where Oasis and Blur released at the same time,

and Oasis won? I think it was something like that.

It's the sort of battle I would remember very...

Again, we're looking to you, like in the last question, John.

We're going to let you choose, John.

So I think we're saying number two, aren't we?

Yes, are we agreed?

I think number two for number two.

OK, I think we're agreed as a panel,

and the answer is B.

-OK, Paul.

-I'm glad that June's been able to sort of discount A

with your excellent knowledge of S Club 7.

I'm going to stick with B, Blur.

OK, you're going to stick with B.

For £500, is that the correct statement?

It is. Very well done.

APPLAUSE

-Good knowledge, sir, good knowledge.

-Thank you, June.

I think we're back, we're back to normal now.

There was some proper debate as well. Well, I mean...

Sorry, Paul, we just have to let the panel self-congratulate.

LAUGHTER

No, that's enough, isn't it? Perhaps another few minutes.

-We were so good, we were great!

-No, we were.

Song 2 is almost exactly two minutes long. It got to number two in 1997.

June, it wasn't one of the Blur-Oasis battles.

-Oh, it wasn't?

-It was kept off the top by R Kelly.

-Oh.

-S Club 7 had nine top five singles

before changing their name to S Club.

They had four number one singles.

UB40 had 22 top 40 singles in the 1980s

including two number ones -

Red Red Wine, and I Got You Babe with Chrissie Hynde.

To date they've had 39 top 40 singles in total.

-Their last in 2005.

-Did I say 39?

-You did!

You did, you also said 41.

Well, I had to cover myself a bit, but, I mean...

Good UB40 knowledge, John Sergeant.

-Very well done.

-Oh, it's nothing, please don't go on about it.

LAUGHTER

That's another £500 into your prize pot, Paul -

you're doing ever so well - taking your total up to £2,000.

APPLAUSE

Here's your next question.

My gut feeling is B.

Panel, help, please.

So, Paul believes that Prince Charles was a fan of the shuttlecock

from an early age. Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, I think we can get rid of the first one, can't we?

-Yeah.

-I tell you why...

-Why?

-Because you can't say the left wing.

It's not in a political party, is it?

-It's a goose.

-Yeah, it's a goose, yeah.

So it's got a left wing and a right wing - who would know?

Who would know?

-I'm not...

-What?!

-Oh, you think?

-I'm not letting you have that, because...

It could be the way that they lie over each other,

you know, the way that they're done.

-Oh, that is good thinking.

-They kind of go over each other.

-I'm not saying one is out for me.

-OK.

What is out for me is the last one.

Yeah, you couldn't get away with that now.

I'm pretty sure it used to be,

because I remember there was a big hoo-ha around that.

We wouldn't put something on about Prince Charles that was wrong,

-would we?

-No.

-I don't think so.

I mean, you could imagine that they play a lot of badminton.

This is the BBC.

He was very sporty as a youngster.

Think of all the polo. I mean, he still plays polo now.

And it says "AN under-13 champion."

-So that could be, what?

-It could be the Royal champion.

Yeah, it could be an under...

The Windsor Championships!

Those Royals in line to the throne under the age of 13 champion.

Exactly!

And, of course, June Sarpong, being involved in the Prince's Trust,

-you would know this.

-No.

I've being involved in the Prince's Trust, but I wouldn't know this.

But next time, you can say, "What was it like being under 13?"

-and then slip in...

-Slip in, yes.

"You're a fan of the shuttlecock, I believe?"

You'd get another award, wouldn't you, straightaway?

-Straightaway!

-So, anyway, I think we are agreed.

We think the answer is B, Prince Charles was an under 13 champion.

So, Paul - John and June have completely ignored...

..Liz's shuttlecock logic,

and the panel are completely agreed.

I'm intrigued by the logic applied by Liz.

-I think there's something in that.

-I think she's right.

It's such unusual statement to make.

I'm going to change it and go for A.

Oh, that's risky!

You're going against the panel.

£500, the correct statement is...

-It is!

-Yes! Go, Liz!

It is A! APPLAUSE

-Well done.

-I don't even know what this is!

It's small dog crossing its legs.

Well, anyway, Prince Charles will be pleased with me.

Yes.

He will be pleased with me, and therefore an honour could follow.

I'm in line now.

You are in line.

Quite far down that line, but you're in line, John.

Believe it or not, feathers from the left wing will make

the best shuttlecock because the shuttlecock spins clockwise.

If the feathers were from the right wing,

it would spin counterclockwise.

-Of course!

-Well done, Paul, that's another £500 into the prize pot.

You're up to £2,500.

APPLAUSE

OK, you're on a roll. Let's see if we can get it up to £3,000.

Here is your final question of this round.

A could be so, depends on how you define a city.

B, Led Zeppelin, that would have been about '74, I think,

Stairway To Heaven. I'm wondering whether they would have been playing

Belfast at that time.

C, Errol Flynn - so weird, it could possibly be the answer.

I'm going to go A.

OK, you think Belfast is the only UK city not on the mainland.

This is the time where the Northern Irish host watches our panel

sort this question out. Panel, best of luck, your debate starts now.

Well, I think we can agree on this?

-Can we?

-Can we?

-Are you telling or asking?

-Yeah, tell us.

No, the definition of a city is cathedrals, right?

So I would've thought, on that basis, no, that couldn't be right.

-No.

-No.

-Because there are others.

Yeah.

Led Zeppelin, I think Paul's making a good point.

I used to cover the events in Northern Ireland in the 1970s...

-Ooh!

-..and I don't remember Led, as we called him then,

I don't remember him turning up and performing.

As for Errol Flynn,

that's the type of daft thing that might have happened, mightn't it?

-Why would that be daft?

-Well, it's so unusual, isn't it?

You don't think Errol Flynn, you don't think of him as a Belfast boy,

-do you?

-The music thing,

I'm just worried about relying on your musical knowledge.

-Yes...

-I don't mean that in a rude way...

No, in a sort of "you've met me for ten minutes" way,

and that's come across, hasn't it?

It was just your debating about S Club and UB40...

Yes, yes. I agree.

So that makes me want to go with Led Zeppelin.

You weren't impressed by that?

That's what made me think it probably is that one.

Also, he said Led is a bloke - it's a band.

-Yes, that was probably a bit of a clue, wasn't it...

-Yeah.

..that I didn't know what I was talking about?

I don't think it's the top one, I don't agree with that.

It's either of the other two...

-Either of the other two.

-..and I just wonder,

because you think it's the bottom one,

if it's probably the middle one!

Probably the middle one. What do you think?

-I don't know.

-I'm going to go with Errol Flynn.

But I'll let you two decide.

No, because I've said Errol Flynn.

-OK.

-We think the answer is the third one,

the birthplace of the actor Errol Flynn.

So, Paul, was Errol Flynn born in Belfast?

Well, it's not A.

B, could be.

C, it's just so odd and unusual.

-Yeah, let's go for C.

-You're going for C?

Yep, I'll follow the advice of the panel.

OK, they're going for the odd and unusual fact

that a man called Flynn may have been born in Ireland.

Yeah.

For £500, the correct statement is...

It was B.

Fancy me getting that wrong.

And you being such good friends with Led.

With Led! Mr Zeppelin.

Northern Ireland has five cities.

Errol Flynn was born in Tasmania,

although he has Irish ancestry.

Near enough.

Led Zeppelin first performed Stairway To Heaven

at the Ulster Hall in March 1971.

So nothing for that, panel, I'm afraid, nothing for that, Paul.

However, at the end of the third round, your prize pot is £2,500.

APPLAUSE

-That's quite a tidy sum.

-Yes.

Any plans if you manage to bag the money today?

I'm going to learn how to surf.

Of course you are.

I want to have a final moment of glory,

when I'm there with the kids on holiday, on the beach,

and their dad takes off to the waves

-and the kids will be so proud of their father.

-Aw!

In my mind's eye, that's how it's going to pan out.

I can see that you're almost as delusional as John Sergeant.

No, no, that takes a lot of practice.

Paul, there's only one question that stands between you and the money.

-That is, of course, the Final Debate.

-Yes.

The question will contain six possible answers,

three of them are correct.

We need you to get all three answers

in order to leave with the cash today. But you are not alone.

The good news is that you will be playing the Final Debate question

with one of these fine panellists.

You'll get 45 seconds to debate.

So, Paul, who would you like to join you in the Final Debate?

Will you be reaching for the stars with June Sarpong?

Will you be osculating the money goodbye with Mr John Sergeant?

Or will it be our left-wing Mother Goose, Ms Carr?

I am indeed spoiled for choice.

There is a wealth of riches before me, each and every person there,

but I think I must look to Liz.

OK, Liz, can you join us as we play the Final Debate?

APPLAUSE

OK, Liz, Paul has chosen you for the Final Debate.

He is putting all his faith in you.

There are surf lessons on the line.

I know. This man's dignity in front of his children is on the line.

I feel a grave responsibility.

-Yes.

-Yeah, we can do this.

-Yes, we can.

-Can't we?

This is the joint confidence that we like before the Final Debate.

Because it is the Final Debate, Paul,

you have two categories to choose from.

Have a look at these, chat it through with Liz

and tell us what you fancy.

Film is the one instinctively I think...

Much as I'm good at running around with a ball at my foot,

that's the extent of my sporting knowledge.

Great. And it's not really my thing.

-No.

-So...

-Film.

-Film.

So, you're turning your back on Liz's love for Kenny Dalglish...

-Shared love.

-Shared love.

-Shared love, yeah, yeah.

-For the Kenny.

-..and you're going for?

-Film.

OK, you're going for Film.

£2,500 up for grabs, we need three correct answers.

45 seconds on the clock, here comes your Final Debate.

Your Final Debate starts now.

-Chiwetel Ejiofor definitely is.

-Yeah, I agree, Chiwetel, definitely.

Billy Bob Thornton played the US president.

-Yes.

-So we're there.

-So we've got two.

-Yeah.

So who's third?

Oh, is it Ben?

See, I don't think it's Simon Pegg.

-No, didn't see him in it.

-Don't remember him.

Do you know Nicholas Hoult?

Yeah, he was the young boy in the other film, Richard Curtis film,

but I don't remember him being in this one.

-January Jones mean anything to you?

-20 seconds.

It doesn't mean anything. Ben Wishaw played the part of Q

-in the Bond films.

-I don't think he's in it.

I can't think which storyline he's in.

It's either Nicholas Hoult or January Jones.

We know we've got two. Who are you feeling?

I've no idea who January Jones is, so I think January Jones.

So you're going for January Jones?

-Yes, let's do it.

-Like it. Loving your confidence.

Time up. OK, Paul, your three answers?

Billy Bob Thornton, Chiwetel Ejiofor and January Jones.

We need all three of these to be correct to leave with the £2,500.

If one of them is incorrect, you do leave with nothing, Paul.

Best of luck, here we go.

Actors with an acting credit in Richard Curtis film Love Actually.

First up, you said Billy Bob Thornton.

You think he played the President.

For £2,500...

..is that a correct answer?

He did.

APPLAUSE

It is a correct answer, he did play the US President,

we are up and running.

One down, two to go.

Next you gave me Chiwetel Ejiofor.

To keep us on track, for £2,500...

He is.

APPLAUSE

He plays Peter, Keira Knightley's husband, in the movie.

-Yes.

-OK, so it's down to this.

-Yes.

-You were thinking Nicholas Hoult, you went for January Jones,

even though you have no idea who January Jones is.

-Oh, absolutely.

-Yeah.

-Best of luck.

-Thank you.

For £2,500...

..is January Jones in Love Actually?

-Yes!

-APPLAUSE

Well done.

We did it, Paul!

Very well played, very well done.

January Jones is best known as Betty Draper in Mad Men.

In Love Actually, she plays one of the American girls

that Kris Marshall met in the bar.

Ah. I remember them by sight, yes.

Very well played. £2,500. Well done, Paul.

APPLAUSE

That is it for Debatable.

Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel.

To Liz Carr, to June Sarpong and John Sergeant.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.