Episode 17 Debatable

APPLAUSE

Hello and welcome to Debatable

where, today, a player must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with the jackpot of over £3,000.

But, as always, they're not on their own.

They will have a panel of well-known faces

debating their way to the answers.

Will they help or will they hinder? That is debatable.

So, let's meet them.

Talking the talk on today's show, we have actor Nitin Ganatra,

we have entrepreneur Peter Jones

and we have broadcaster Suzi Perry.

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Now, Suzi, we know your debating skills are good.

You normally work with another Irishman

that sometimes you can't get a word in edgeways with.

I think every Formula One show I ever did was a debate

with Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard.

Is Eddie Jordan the only person who actually has a chat with himself?

And he'll start saying something in a positive way

and end up concluding in a negative way, so he'll say,

"Yes, it's a good move that Vettel has made",

and by 30 seconds later, he's saying,

"So, that's why Vettel shouldn't have moved!"

And you're, like, "Hang on!"

So, essentially, Eddie does his commentary in the same way

that our panel will basically debate today.

Is that's what going to happen?

Yeah, we're going to come up with the right idea

then talk ourselves out of it, I think.

Peter, of course, in the heat of the Den,

you're used to holding your own and getting your own way.

-I'm used to working against the people that I sit next to.

-Yes.

So, this is a really new experience for me,

-but I'm looking forward to it.

-I think this is going to be good.

Nitin, your debating skills - how are they?

I debate with my kids a lot, but some people would call that arguing.

Whenever you debate with the kids, who normally wins?

Well, they usually win because they put up a good argument

-and the best thing they do is make me laugh.

-OK.

What are you going to bring to the dance today subjectwise?

-Peter Jones, what have you got covered?

-Food and drink.

Entertainment, sport, business. Is there anything else in life?

To be honest, that's all we wanted - that little moment

of the panel talking its own confidence up.

LAUGHTER It can only go one way.

It is time now to meet today's contestant.

It is Claudette from Walsall.

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-Hello.

-How you doing? Good to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

-Thanks for coming on.

-Thank you.

-Tell us a bit about yourself.

My name's Claudette and I recently moved from Luton to Walsall.

Why did you choose Walsall?

I took early retirement and cost of living is a bit better.

-I see what you've done there.

-Yeah.

-And what hobbies do you have?

Well, I've taken up Tai Chi.

I've never done it before and I just like the slow movements

and it's good for posture and stuff like this.

Very slow, kind of like this.

-And does that relax things?

-It does. It's really good.

-It's good for the mind, body and soul.

-Will it help today?

Yes, oh, yes.

-You're looking at this pose here.

-It's very good.

I'm not sure whether I'm halfway to Michael Flatley or Usain Bolt.

LAUGHTER

-What do you think of today's panel?

-They look like a great panel.

-Mm.

They look like they're going to really have all the answers.

You have to pay close attention to what our panel say

because, as you know, in the Final Debate,

-you can only choose one of these brainboxes to help you.

-OK.

-Ready to play?

-I'm ready to play.

-Here we go. Let's play Round 1.

Claudette, Round 1.

Multiple choice, four possible answers to each question.

-Four questions in this round.

-Mm-hmm.

Each correct answer is worth £200,

so there's a possible £800 up for grabs

-to go into the prize pot for the end of the show.

-OK.

Here we go. Best of luck. Let's get cracking.

OK.

I think I should declare that, on occasions, I'm known as Puff Paddy.

LAUGHTER

Um, Puff Daddy.

-He has released songs under that, so I'm going to discount that.

-Mm.

And he has released P Diddy, so I'm going to go with P Daddy.

-You're going to go with P Daddy.

-Yeah.

Let's see if our panel are as hip as you, Claudette.

Your debate starts now.

-Claudette doesn't need us!

-LAUGHTER

Well, our rap expert is sitting at the end here but she gave a great...

-I grew up on a good dose of hip-hop when I was a kid.

-CLAUDETTE:

-OK.

-NITIN:

-We remember he started as Puff Daddy,

then he turned to P Diddy.

Now, the question is, is it P Daddy or Diddy?

I have a feeling you're right.

My instinct says Diddy is just an abbreviation of P Diddy.

-But did he changed from P Diddy to P Daddy?

-Or didn't he?

-Or did he?

-Did he?

-I don't remember ever hearing him being called P Daddy.

-I think the odd one out is P Daddy.

-I think you're probably right.

I think you're definitely right, yeah.

I think, actually, Claudette was right.

-You were in that advert, weren't you?

-I was the first iPod guy.

He was the first guy on TV

-when it came to music and the launch of the iPod.

-What?

I landed my first ever advert

and spent two days in LA, dancing around a room ridiculously.

You did the moon walk, didn't you?

I did do the moon walk. Listen, don't expect it...

-Come on!

-No, no, no.

-You've got to give us the moon walk.

-I was a little bit of a break dancer.

-Come on!

-I used to...

We've got a bit of time because we got the question so quick.

We know the answer. We all know it's P Daddy.

-Let's just see the break dance.

-No!

-Come on!

-Yes, come on!

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Come on, let's have it.

I don't know what to... At my age? Here we go.

Whoa! Whoa!

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-It's important we head back there.

-Medic! Medic!

But anyway, the panel... We have decided,

-after that lovely dance...

-I think you do need to talk

just for a second while he gets his breath back, Peter.

Yeah, yeah, you should never relive your youth in front of cameras.

You just don't do it. But, yes, I think P Daddy's the...

We all think P Daddy.

The panel definitely all think P Daddy is the right answer.

So, Claudette, they think it's P Daddy.

And as that was my first choice, I'm going to go with P Daddy.

OK, rapper Sean Combs did not release an album under P Daddy.

For £200, is that the correct answer?

-It is the correct answer. Well done.

-Great.

Well played. APPLAUSE

-We're up and running.

-Whoo!

To date, he has released two albums under Puff Daddy,

two under Diddy, one under P Diddy, none under P Daddy.

-Or D Paddy.

-Or D Paddy. That could work out.

-Duff Paddy.

-Yes, Puff Paddy.

-DUFF Paddy.

-LAUGHTER

That's something else, right?

There's been a few gigs where I might have had that review.

We'll move on from that.

Well played, Claudette, you're up and running.

That's £200 in the prize pot.

-Thank you. Brilliant.

-APPLAUSE

It's a great start.

Let's see if we can keep it going. Here's your next question.

When I saw the word "anguilliform",

I'm thinking of something aquatic.

-My gut reaction is to go for an eel.

-Hold that thought,

as we head over to a panel that looks puzzled, bemused and clueless.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Those are good names for us. Which one do you want? I'll take clueless.

-"Anguilliform".

-Hard, isn't it?

-Anguilla, the country?

-That's an island, isn't it?

-Which is aquatic, which is what you thought.

Mm. But "anguilli" sounds like an Italian or a Latin... Angel...

-You know, in... Angelo, anguelo.

-Exactly.

Sounds like an olde worlde word for "angel" to me.

Well, I don't know if it's anything to think of,

but the first three letters are the same as "angel".

It's tricky, isn't it? Right, let's go through them then. An owl?

There's nothing birdlike there.

That's why I'm sort of moving away from eagle as well.

-So, then we're back to eel and angel.

-Angel...

I didn't know about the aquatic thing, really. I don't know...

-What's... You felt the aquatic thing as well.

-Only cos of Anguilla.

It's an island. When you said, "Fish" and "aquatic",

-I thought, if it's an island, there's fish around the island.

-Mm.

Anguilla was...

Christopher Columbus went past, or he founded Anguilla, didn't he?

I think so.

That's a much more concrete argument than mine, saying...

Particularly because water surrounds the island, I would say.

It's definitely not a bird. It doesn't seem like a bird.

-And an angel...

-I would lean to angel,

-but I don't really know why.

-Angel.

-What do you lean towards?

-That's only instinct, but yours...

You sound so much more logical about it.

-I don't think it has anything to do with an angel. I don't see that.

-OK.

-OK.

-Go with eel then.

-Go for the eel.

-We're going to...

The panel are going to go for the eel,

in the hope that Anguilla is something to do with aquatics.

OK, Claudette, the panel thinks that it is an eel.

That was your first thought.

Yeah, I think because I don't see an angel as a creature,

so that's why it's swaying me more and, as Peter had mentioned,

Anguilla, the island, water... I'm going to go with an eel.

So, you're agreeing with the panel.

You think "anguilliform" refers to something

that relates to or resembles an eel.

For £200, is that the correct answer?

It is! APPLAUSE

Very well played. Well done. Well played. Hats off, Peter Jones.

From the Latin "anguilla", meaning "eel".

The Caribbean island of Anguilla was so named

-in reference to the island's eel-like shape.

-Ah.

-Ah.

-Ah.

-Very well played, Claudette.

-Thank you.

It means that you're up to £400.

-Fantastic.

-APPLAUSE

Two more questions in this round.

Let's see if we can add to your prize pot. Here comes your next one.

I'm going to rule out Life Of Pi and I haven't heard of The Beach.

I don't really listen to Desert Island Discs,

-so I'd be kind of guessing this.

-Hold that thought. Panel...

Some of them may even have been on Desert Island Discs.

-..your debate starts now.

-Well, let's answer Paddy's question.

Who's been on Desert Island Discs? Peter, have you?

No, I've been asked, but I really would love to do it.

-I listen to it a lot.

-Yeah.

-And I think it's amazing.

See, The Beach... The Danny Boyle film, wasn't it?

-Yeah, with Leonardo DiCaprio.

-With Leonardo DiCaprio.

..and Life Of Pi are more recent books.

And if Desert Island Discs has been going for...

-It's been going a long time, hasn't it?

-A long time.

So, I would think it was a classic book that they were taking.

Now, here's my argument.

Why go for Robinson Crusoe unless you're going to use it

as a help manual to get back? About a guy stranded on an island.

I wouldn't take a book that torments me

about being stuck on a desert island.

See, that's really weird, because I think the opposite.

-So do I.

-Really?

-Oh, if I'm going to be stranded,

the first thing I want to know is how to get off it.

So, how did the guy get off it?

-I want to read the book about it, so that...

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-I'm stranded and now I can get away.

-OK.

-What do we think then?

It's a 50/50, isn't it? Or are you more swayed?

-You're more swayed by...

-Robinson Crusoe.

-I kind of am.

But Treasure Island...

But the premise of Desert Island Discs is that you're going to be

-on a desert island now.

-Yes.

You're going to take your favourite piece of music,

you're going to take your religious, if you need a religious book,

but also, you take a luxury book.

Would you take a book that reminds you you're deserted

-on a treasure island - on an island, sorry?

-Then let's go the reverse.

Would you take a book that tells you all about an island

that has treasure on it that you're never going to see?

Or be able to use even if it had the treasure.

That would be more frustrating, wouldn't it?

-Listen, you two are veering towards...

-Let's...

Look, Claudette's a very intelligent lady.

Why don't we throw in Robinson Crusoe

and then she can choose it or not.

We're going to select Robinson Crusoe.

OK, Robinson Crusoe, the panel think.

-I'm going to go with the panel.

-OK, you're going with the panel.

You think that Robinson Crusoe has been chosen by most castaways

on Desert Island Discs.

For £200, the correct answer is...

-It is Robinson Crusoe!

-Fantastic.

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Very well played. Good logic there, Nitin,

but Robinson Crusoe has been picked 12 times on Desert Island Discs

by castaways, including Bear Grylls, Marianne Faithfull,

Frank Bruno and Douglas Fairbanks Jr.

Treasure Island has been picked five times

by the likes of boxing promoter Frank Warren and Sir Ming Campbell.

No-one has chosen Life Of Pi or The Beach.

-Very well done, Claudette.

-Thank you.

-It couldn't have gone any better.

-Fantastic!

-Three questions in the bank. You have £600.

-Thank you.

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£200 still up for grabs in Round 1.

Here comes the final question.

Saffron, you can use in cooking.

For some reason I'm being drawn to daffodil.

I'm thinking saffron's yellow, but I'm not sure.

OK, you're drawn to daffodil. Let's see what our panel are drawn to.

The debate starts now.

This is really hard.

-Saffron, Claudette's right - you use it in cooking.

-Yeah.

-And it's actually very expensive to buy.

-That's right.

And it turns food a sort of yellowy-orange.

-It's like a food dye.

-Saffron...

Cos it's used a lot in Indian cooking

and my mum and my sister taught me how to cook when I was young.

But, often, I was never allowed near the saffron

and I remember looking at it.

It's in a tiny little plastic box and slivers of red.

-To this day, I mean, I don't know where it comes from.

-I have no idea.

-But my theory is this. If it's that expensive...

-Daffodil...

..and it's hard to find, it's hard to harvest,

-then orchids are very tricky plants.

-Mm.

-What's a crocus though?

-I don't know.

-Well, crocus...

Well, daffodils are very British, I would think a very British flower.

Crocuses, they're the little ones that come through at spring,

you know. They look a bit like mini tulips, don't they?

-Oh, right, yeah.

-I don't know. It might be crocus.

Where's the main supplier of tulips?

I'm thinking Holland. Is that the main supplier, globally, of tulips?

Saffron came from the East on the spice routes.

So, does that lead to orchid as well then?

I've got a feeling...

Because orchid, for me, has always been a very, very...

It's an expensive plant, it has a lot of mystery to it,

it's an exotic plant.

I'm just connecting the two rarities together.

I think that sounds as good as any answer we're going to come up with.

-I think it's good logic. That is good logic.

-Yeah?

The panel are unanimous in their decision...

-LAUGHTER

-..that they think it's orchid.

See, I'm kind of drawn from what Suzi said about the yellow

and the yellow was drawing me,

but then it changed when Nitin said about red.

I'm torn between the two.

I'm going to take a chance

and I'm going to go with the panel on this one and go with orchid.

You.

-You're going with the panel.

-Mm.

And one member of the panel in particular.

Shall I apologise now?

-CLAUDETTE:

-No, I've got a lot of faith in you.

-NITIN:

-OK, fingers crossed for you.

-Here we go.

For £200, does saffron come from the orchid?

-NITIN:

-No!

-It comes from crocuses.

-NITIN:

-I'm sorry.

-CLAUDETTE:

-That's fine. I mean, I didn't...

We didn't even know what a crocus was, to be fair,

-so we've got no chance.

-It comes from the crocus.

Saffron is obtained from the stigmas of Crocus sativus.

Formerly of importance as a dye,

it is now mainly used as a colouring and a food flavouring.

The orchid is responsible for vanilla.

-PANEL:

-Ah!

-That's what I meant!

LAUGHTER

If you'd have let me finish, that's what I meant.

Don't go for orchid cos that's vanilla, of course.

Claudette, you haven't managed to bank any money on that question

but you've still done ever so well. At the end of Round 1,

-you're on £600.

-Thank you.

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Now, this is the fun bit

when we get to look at the panel and we get to mark their homework.

Who do you think is standing out for you there?

I think they've all been doing well.

They've all pitched in and helped with the questions.

-I think Peter's standing out.

-Ooh.

-It's difficult to say.

-They're all...

-Is that just because he's a bit taller?

-Yeah, I think so.

Make sure you pay close attention.

We have two more rounds before you have to choose someone

-for the Final Debate.

-OK.

Let's see how they cope with pictures. It's time for Round 2.

Claudette, Round 2 is our picture round.

All you have to do, he says,

is put three pictures in the correct order.

There are three questions in this round.

-£300 for each correct answer, a possible £900 up for grabs.

-OK.

Here comes your first picture question. Best of luck.

Laura Trott, I would put her as the first

and then Jason Kenny and then Bradley Wiggins.

Let's see how the panel is on this. Your debate starts now.

All incredible cyclists

and Laura and Jason, a couple known as the "golden couple".

And I think I'm right in saying they got five golds

between the two of them.

Yeah, I don't know which way round it is.

I'm hoping you do, but Bradley Wiggins has definitely only got one.

-He did get one, yeah?

-Shall I kind of hoist that up to you?

-Yes.

-Shall we start with this?

-But now...

Well, I think that she got an individual and a team

-and I think it's that way round.

-You think she got two, he got three?

-Laura got two and I think Jason got three.

-I don't actually know, so...

-I don't know. We're in your hands here.

-Yeah.

Cos, obviously, Bradley Wiggins -

the previous Olympics comes to mind straightaway.

He was the most popular name because of what he achieved.

And then he went on. He was Sports Personality of the Year.

Yeah, but in these Rio Olympics, yeah, it was a very different case.

-It was, yeah.

-I'm pretty certain that Jason got three.

Jason got three, Laura got two.

-Yeah, I know she got individual and team...

-Happy?

-Yeah.

-Pretty good.

Well, the panel have decided it's in the order

of Bradley Wiggins, we think, with one,

Laura won two, and Jason won three.

So, Claudette, the panel are going with Bradley with the fewest.

-Mm-hmm.

-Then Laura Trott, then Jason Kenny.

As this isn't really my strong point,

I'm going to go with the panel on this one.

-You think they sound confident?

-Yeah, especially Suzi.

You're going to put your faith in the panel.

You're going with the panel.

You're saying that the fewest number of gold medals at Rio

was Bradley Wiggins, then Laura Trott, Jason Kenny bagged the most.

Is that the correct order?

It is the correct order.

APPLAUSE Well done, Suzi. Well played, panel.

Well done, Claudette.

At the 2016 Olympics, Bradley Wiggins won one medal,

Laura Trott won two and Jason Kenny won three gold medals.

And, of course, that wasn't the only good news story

because Laura Trott married Jason Kenny in September, 2016,

and now she's Laura Kenny.

-Well played all round. Another £300 in the prize pot.

-Fantastic.

-You are up to £900.

-Wow!

APPLAUSE

OK, Claudette, here comes your second picture question.

Hmm, probably the Petronas, smallest,

then the Leaning Tower of Pisa, then the Eiffel Tower.

-That's your first thought?

-Yeah.

Let's go to our well-travelled panel who, no doubt,

have visited all three of these magnificent landmarks.

Your debate starts now.

-I've been to all three, have you?

-No, I've been to two.

Which two have you been to?

I've been to the Tower of Pisa and the Eiffel Tower.

I've not been to the Petronas.

I've been here and I've stood right outside and filmed a link,

so you'd think that I would just know the answer to this question.

You've been to Pisa, haven't you?

Well, I've lived in Italy, I've lived in Paris

and the Leaning Tower of Pisa's definitely the smallest

because if you stand at a certain place

and take a photograph, like this, it's about that big.

If you want to do a selfie, it's only that big.

-CLAUDETTE:

-That's quite small.

-NITIN:

-So, from here, it's about that big.

-CLAUDETTE:

-OK.

-NTIN:

-I think it's the smallest. I've been there

and it's not overwhelmingly, you know...

You just kind of go, "Oh, it's just a small leaning tower."

See that piece of grass in front, which isn't that big?

It's like a small green.

Everybody stands like Paddy is, so it looks like they're holding it up.

They do this thing where they stand in the distance

and then it looks like that.

LAUGHTER

-There you go.

-The Petronas Towers is in KL,

in Kuala Lumpur, in Malaysia, and they tend to...

Recently what they do, when they build a tower in a city,

they try and build it to be the biggest tower

in, you know, the world or in that city or...

So, I'm just wondering if they tried to, at the time,

make it the tallest tower. And the Eiffel Tower...

Just doesn't look as big when you see the little people.

Yeah, I don't know how tall the Eiffel Tower is.

Because that looks like 40, 50 metres.

That looks like 300 to 500, and that looks huge.

I'm happy, if you want to keep them in that order, then...

The panel have decided that the order is the Leaning Tower of Pisa,

the Eiffel Tower and the Petronas Towers.

So, Claudette, any sense in there for you?

Yeah, I think I'm going to go with the panel on this,

cos it's not my strongest sort of subject.

-You're going with the panel.

-Yeah.

-You're agreeing with them.

You think that the Leaning Tower of Pisa is the smallest,

then the Eiffel Tower, then the Petronas Towers.

For £300, is that the correct order?

It is! APPLAUSE

He just said, "I've changed my mind."

I've changed my mind! I've changed my mind!

I was wrong! I'm sorry, Claudette.

-CLAUDETTE:

-Brilliant.

-Well done. Well played, everybody.

The Leaning Tower of Pisa was originally completed

to stand 60 metres tall,

but it is now leaning to an average height of 56 metres.

The Eiffel Tower - the tower itself to the top of the flagpole

is 312 metres.

With antennas on the top, its current height is 324 metres.

-The Petronas Towers rise to a height of around 450 metres.

-A lot bigger.

At one time, the Petronas Towers was the world's tallest building.

-Wow!

-But well played, Claudette. Another £300 into the prize pot.

-Thank YOU!

-You're up to £1,200.

-Wow!

-APPLAUSE

All right, Claudette, your final picture question.

-OK. This is kind of...

-It's a tricky one.

-Yeah. Um...

One 20p piece. I think the 20p is the lightest.

20p, the 5p and the 1p, but I'll see what the panel...

-I think that's a good idea.

-Yeah.

-This is a confusing one.

Panel, our money experts, the debate starts now.

I wish I had...

-I took my coins out before I came on.

-Oh, no.

-Don't pretend you have coins, Peter!

-I DO have coins!

-You only have 50s.

The 5p piece would stick on my little finger, like that,

-whereas the 1p...

-You sound like you've thought this through.

..is slightly bigger. It's like THAT finger, the 1p.

Everything kind of looks tiny on your finger, cos you're a giant.

-I

-look tiny on your finger!

LAUGHTER

This is such a tricky question, isn't it?

-The 1p is a different kind of metal, isn't it?

-Yes.

-It feels heavier.

It makes a different sound when it drops as well,

whereas this is really light. I think that's the lightest.

-Mm, I do as well.

-They're like little snowdrops when they drop.

Let's see what it looks like there.

I reckon they might weigh about the same

and there's two of those which would mean that was heavier than that.

It's definitely between these two, isn't it? Cos when you drop those...

When you drop two pennies...

I can't remember the last time I dropped two pennies,

-but when you drop two pennies...

-What is the sound

when you drop pennies, Peter? Argh!

LAUGHTER

-I think, then, you swap those two.

-Swap these two?

-I...

-What do you reckon?

-Three 5p pieces. Let's lock this in, shall we?

The panel have decided that we're going to go with

three 5p pieces, one 20p piece and two 1p pieces, in that order.

What do you make of this?

Um, I think that three 5p pieces is the lightest

and then the two 1p pieces is the next

and the 20p is the heaviest.

OK, we're going to swap that around. For £300, is that the correct order?

-No.

-It's the wrong order.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

-There is it.

-Oh.

-Oh.

One 20p piece is 5g.

The 1p piece is 3.56g,

so two pennies would weigh 7.12g.

The 5p piece is 3.25, so three 5p pieces -

your twos, your threes, your fours,

you carry your weight and here's your change -

-would be 9.75g in total.

-OK.

Claudette, never mind, you didn't get anything for that question.

You're still doing really well.

-Your total at the end of Round 2, £1,200.

-Wow, brilliant!

APPLAUSE

-So, is our panel still proving useful, Claudette?

-Absolutely!

-Yes?

-They are, yes!

Is Peter Jones still standing out or is someone coming up on the rails?

They're all very good. I don't want to say. It's hard to choose.

Well, you're going to have to choose one of them at the end of the show

for the Final Debate but, before that, it's time for Round 3.

In Round 3, Claudette, you're going to face questions

that contain three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

-Only one of those statements is true.

-OK.

-We need you to find the correct statement.

-Yeah.

Because it's the final round, £500 for each correct answer,

-so a possible £1,500 you can add to your prize pot.

-OK.

-Ready to play?

-Yep.

-OK, here it comes.

-I really haven't got a clue, if I'm honest. Um...

-Don't worry.

-Yeah.

-That's what our panel are here for.

-Yeah.

So, panel, what is true about puppets? Your debate starts now.

OK...shall we start with you

cos I happen to know you were a massive fan of Captain Scarlet.

-Yeah.

-Thunderbirds and...

And, actually, at Pinewood, in about 2004,

we did the first series of Dragons' Den in Curtain Road

and I was lucky enough to meet up with the creator of Thunderbirds

-and Captain Scarlet. He was here...

-Gerry Anderson.

Gerry Anderson, doing the filming of the digital Captain Scarlet.

And during the conversations, as you do,

I remember him talking about Roger Moore.

But I'm sure I heard him also say Cary Grant.

-They all did look very Cary Granty.

-Mm.

It would make sense if it was based on Cary Grant.

But when it says Punch and Judy's surname is Pepys,

I don't think it is, because immediately,

I know that Punch and Judy is Mr Punch.

But I don't know about Basil Brush and the christening.

I don't think Basil Brush would have been invited

to Prince Harry's christening.

Unless Prince Harry was a massive big fan.

Mind you, how old was he when he got christened?

-Probably very young.

-If he was a baby,

which he was, wasn't he, when he got christened,

then why would you have a fox going, "Boom, boom!" at the font?

That's weird, isn't it?

AS BASIL BRUSH: I, I say, Mr, Charles.

LAUGHTER

-I think we've all decided, have we?

-Yeah.

We've decided that Captain Scarlet was based on Cary Grant.

They're going for B, Captain Scarlet was based on Cary Grant.

I'm going to go with the panel on this one

and go for Captain Scarlet was based on Cary Grant.

All right, was Captain Scarlet based on Cary Grant?

For £500, the correct statement is...

-Yes!

-Well done.

-Fantastic!

-APPLAUSE

Captain Scarlet based on Cary Grant.

Basil Brush appeared at Prince William's fifth birthday party.

-Oh.

-Wow.

-Very well played, Claudette. £500 into the prize pot.

-You're now up to £1,700.

-Wow, that's fantastic!

APPLAUSE Well done.

Still £1,000 up for grabs. Here comes your next question.

-I don't have a clue.

-Funny that!

LAUGHTER

So, I'd like to hear what the panel think.

Let's see if we can get some random knowledge from the panel.

Your debate starts now.

What we need is a light bulb moment.

GROANS AND LAUGHTER

That's MY contribution. Um...

The museum bit sounds a bit weird, doesn't it?

How do you get someone's last breath, unless it's a last request?

And how would you know it's going to be his last breath?

You'd be there for ages with a test tube, wouldn't you?

You're there at the set time where...

-Can you imagine the guy who had to collect it?

-Yeah.

-Oh, he's still breathing!

-And then he went...

Is he dead yet? Oh, he took another breath!

Well, OK, let's move on from that one.

Was born on the same day in the same year as Albert Einstein -

-that's just not true.

-Well, is that too unbelievable to be true?

I know it sounds farfetched.

A couple of geniuses born exactly on the same day at the same time?

Same day, same year.

Lux - it's a guess if his middle name was...

It's not Lux, is it, his middle name?

I don't think it is. It's like Alvie or Alva.

It's down to how certain you are about when they were born, really.

How old was Einstein when he died, Paddy?

LAUGHTER

-Oh!

-I don't know, but he was the same age as Thomas Edison.

LAUGHTER

It's got to be the last one.

It says "reportedly", so that might not be true.

-Oh, reportedly.

-Reportedly, so...

Surely we'd know if he was born on the same day as Einstein.

I think that's nonsense.

-And the last one isn't?

-LAUGHTER

-Yeah.

-Um...

-Let's go with the odd answer, random answer?

We're going to go with the random answer, that Thomas Edison,

his last breath is held in a US museum.

-Reportedly.

-Reportedly.

-Reportedly.

Any sense in there at all, Claudette?

Not really, no.

Um, because it seems such an unbelievable kind of statement

that there's a test tube with his last breath...

But because it's so random, I'm going to go with the panel.

You think that a US museum holds a test tube

of what is reportedly Thomas Edison's last breath.

Surely... LAUGHTER

Hopefully, this is true.

For £500, the correct statement is...

It is true!

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

-Oh, my goodness!

-That's unbelievable!

-Well played, panel.

We were going through all sorts of crises of doubt,

-self doubt - what was I thinking?

-The self-doubt in the middle, maybe.

What were you thinking, man? OK, here it comes.

The test tube containing the alleged last breath of Edison

is held at the Henry Ford Museum.

The test tube is one of several

that his son Charles noticed standing open in the rack

in the bedroom in which his father had just died in 1931.

He sealed the tubes and Charles later sent one to Henry Ford,

who kept it with his other Edison mementos at his home.

It's labelled in the museum as "Edison's Last Breath?".

-His middle name - you were right, Peter. It was Alva.

-Nice one.

Lux is the Latin for "light".

Thomas Edison was born February 11th, 1847, Milan, Ohio.

Einstein was born on March 14th, 1879, in Ulm in Germany.

I don't now how you managed to do that,

but there's another £500 into the prize pot,

-bringing you, Claudette, up to £2,200.

-Wow!

-That's brilliant. Thank you.

-APPLAUSE

One more chance to get the money up before the Final Debate.

£500 up for grabs for this.

OK, I'm not a chess player, so I don't really know much about chess.

So, I would like to hear what the panel think.

-We'd ALL like to hear what the panel make of this one.

-Yeah.

OK, panel, let's see what you make of this. Your debate starts now.

It definitely didn't originate in South America

because it was an Eastern invention, brought over by the Mogul invaders,

so it originated from India and Persia.

-OK, we can discount that.

-So, I know it's definitely not South America.

-Who plays chess? I don't really play chess.

-Hang on, you play chess.

-I play chess, yeah.

-Can you win a game in two moves?

-Yeah.

Your first move, if I'm playing, is to move my pawn forward,

which releases my queen on the diagonal.

If they move their pawn forward,

which opens up the diagonal on their king,

my next move is the diagonal on the left.

-I go checkmate.

-OK.

-There we go.

-There you go.

-So, I think the answer is

a player can win the game of chess in two moves.

-They seem very definite about this.

-Yeah.

So, I'm going to go with the panel

and go for "A player can win the game in two moves".

OK. Can a player win a chess game in two moves, for £500?

-Yes, they can!

-Well done.

APPLAUSE

Really well done. Winning in two moves is known as the "fool's mate".

The origins of chess are unclear

but the commonly held belief is that it came from India.

It was played in Europe before Columbus first sailed to America.

There are reports that King Canute and, later, William the Conqueror

both played chess in the 11th century,

some 500 years before Henry VIII.

None of them were able to win in two moves.

LAUGHTER

William the Conqueror is said to have broken a chessboard

over the head of a French prince after losing a game...

in two moves.

LAUGHTER

Claudette, very well played.

At the end of Round 3, your prize pot is up to £2,700.

-Oh, my God! Fantastic. Thank you.

-APPLAUSE

-That's a lot of holidays.

-That's fantastic.

What are you planning with the money

-if we manage to get the Final Debate?

-You know what?

I've never travelled first class before,

so I would love to experience it.

-I think what you should do is keep the money...

-Yes.

..and go home with Peter Jones. LAUGHTER

-That's how you do that.

-Oh, sounds like a plan!

-It sounds like a plan.

OK, there is only one question between you and that £2,700.

It is our Final Debate. Final Debate is six possible answers.

-Only three are correct.

-OK.

I need you to give me all three correct answers

-to go home with the money.

-OK.

You're not going to be playing on your own.

You're going to choose one of these fine panellists

to assist you in your quest.

You and your panellist will have 45 seconds to debate the question.

OK, Claudette, who would you like to join you in our Final Debate?

Will you be on your way to Treasure Island with Nitin Ganatra?

Will it be our very own P Daddy, Mr Peter Jones?

Or will it be in for two pennies, in for three 5ps with Suzi Perry.

Everyone's been so helpful, but I'm going to go with Peter Jones.

You are going for Peter. Join us, please, for the Final debate.

APPLAUSE

OK, Peter, Claudette has chosen you for the Final Debate.

You look confident. You feeling confident?

I am, because I think Claudette,

-I don't think she's going to need my help.

-She's played really well.

-Really well, yeah.

-Thank you.

Anything you want to avoid up there, Claudette?

Anything you want to see appearing?

It would be good if TV or food and drink, entertainment would be good.

Anything you want to avoid, Peter?

-Probably entertainment.

-Food and drink, television.

-Apart from that, I'm fine.

-This is going to work out really well.

OK, it is the Final Debate, Claudette,

so you have a choice from these two.

-I think I'd go television.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-OK, great, yeah.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-Good.

Best of luck, Claudette. You're going for television.

£2,700 up for grabs.

We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

Here comes your Final Debate. We wish you all the best.

-Your Final Debate starts now.

-Er, do you know?

-No.

I know that Hugh Laurie did. Um...

Um...

-Hugh Laurie, Danny DeVito...

-Michelle Pfeiffer, maybe?

-Michelle Pfeiffer might have done.

-I've got a feeling.

Um... I don't...

Was Danny DeVito the, er...? Was he the drunk?

-20 seconds.

-I think, maybe. Danny DeVito.

Hugh Laurie, Danny DeVito and maybe Michelle...

Winona Ryder. Who's Winona Ryder? What does she look like?

She's got dark hair. She was in a film with Johnny Depp, I think.

-I need an answer, guys.

-OK.

Hugh Laurie, Danny DeVito

and it could be Winona Ryder or Michelle Pfeiffer, one of those.

Claudette, three names, please.

Michelle Pfeiffer, Dustin Hoffman, Danny DeVito.

Michelle Pfeiffer, Dustin Hoffman and Danny DeVito.

-£2,700.

-Oh.

-Please...

Did Michelle Pfeiffer make a guest appearance on the US sitcom Friends?

-Oh!

-Never mind.

-Sorry.

-That's all right.

-Michelle Pfeiffer didn't.

-Never mind.

-I thought Michelle had.

-Never mind.

-Let's have a look at the other answers here.

-You said Dustin Hoffman. Did Dustin Hoffman appear?

-No, the whole three.

He didn't. Danny DeVito was the stripper at Phoebe's hen party.

The correct answers were Winona Ryder,

was Rachel's sorority sister, who she kissed at college.

Hugh Laurie... I didn't know this.

Hugh Laurie plays the man who sits next to Rachel

on a plane on her way to Ross's wedding.

It was such a tough question.

-We were all hoping you could have done it.

-Sorry.

-Never mind.

But thank you so much for coming to see us. Give it up one more time.

-She's a great player. Claudette.

-Thank you.

-APPLAUSE

-Thank you.

That is it for Debatable.

There's just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel,

to Peter Jones, Nitin Ganatra and Suzi Perry.

APPLAUSE

I do hope you've enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.

APPLAUSE