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Celebrity panel quiz show hosted by Patrick Kielty. Rick Edwards, Ann Widdecombe and Jonathan Edwards try and help retired bank manager Dave walk away with a jackpot.


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Hello, and welcome to Debatable, where today one player must answer

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a series of tricky questions to try and walk away with a jackpot

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of over £3,000. But, as always, they are not on their own.

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They will have a panel of well-known faces debating their way

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to the answers. Will they be all talk and no action?

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As always, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

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Chin-wagging their way to the answers today we have retired MP

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and writer Ann Widdecombe, we have broadcaster Rick Edwards,

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and TV presenter Rav Wilding.

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APPLAUSE

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Rick, you're in the centre chair, you are taking hold of this panel.

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-I certainly am.

-It's a good panel, I think.

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-It's a great panel.

-It is a good panel.

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-I'm thrilled.

-So, you've done the show before.

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-I have.

-And, I mean, you were the full package.

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You had the brains, you had the looks, you had the charisma,

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I mean, we're not putting any pressure on you here.

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I love the way he said, "You HAD the looks".

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-As if they've now gone.

-I know, I know.

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Reminding me of a better time.

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We just want to know, Rick, is it still there?

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I wasn't entirely sure it was the first time.

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-Oh, it was.

-I'm thrilled to be asked back, clearly.

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It very much was, and welcome back, Ann.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Now, in a Strictly way, what are you going to be bringing to the dance?

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Well, I shan't be bringing any knowledge of pop or sport.

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If such questions were to come up,

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you go with the answer I do not give.

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-Yes.

-Noted.

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Noted. Noted, Rav?

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-So, Rav, of course, a former policeman.

-Mm-hm.

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You're going to be here to oversee things, keep things right.

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Well, let's try.

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-Let's try.

-I think I'm going to have my work cut out, though.

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But, yeah, law and order is probably going to be one of the strengths,

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-if any.

-That is our fully formed panel.

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Let's meet today's contestant - it is Dave from Weston-super-Mare.

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APPLAUSE

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-How you doing?

-Very good.

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-Welcome to the show.

-Thank you.

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-Tell us a little bit about yourself.

-Right, well, my name is Dave,

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I'm a retired bank manager from Weston-super-Mare,

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I've got two grown-up daughters and, having retired,

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I'm now trying to do as much travelling as I can possibly do.

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So what do you do in your spare time?

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Right, I enjoy football.

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I was a football referee.

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Please don't hold that against me, guys!

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And now I'm too old to run around the football field,

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I sit in the stand and assess other referees and coach them so that

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hopefully they can progress their careers through.

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So, our panel here, if any of our panel step out of line,

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what's it going to be? Is it going to just be a straight red?

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Is it going to be a talking to?

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Or are you going to do that thing where they wave them away?

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Wave them away, no, I think it will just be...

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just be a gentle talking to to start with,

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and if they step out of line then we may have to use the stepped approach

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-with the captain.

-OK, you are going to have to keep a

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referee's eye on them because you can only choose one of them to play

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-the Final Debate at the end of the show.

-Yes, right.

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-Ready to play?

-Excellent, yes.

-OK, here we go, let's play Round One.

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This round is multiple choice, Dave.

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Each question contains four possible answers,

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four questions in this round, each correct answer is worth £200.

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A possible £800 up for grabs.

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So the best of luck to you, best of luck to the panel,

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here's your first question.

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Right. Well, I don't think that it would be a brown bear

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or a wolf because they are a little bit too vicious to be let out

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into Scotland, so...

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I mean, you've clearly not had a night out in Glasgow.

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No, I haven't actually. Without knowing the answer,

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my leaning would be towards the Irish elk, but...

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OK, you're leaning towards the Irish elk in Scotland.

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Panel, let's see if you can shed some light on this.

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Your debate starts now.

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Well, I rather share the view that it won't be brown bears.

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I mean, would you like to meet a brown bear when you were walking in

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-the Scottish Highlands?

-I'd absolutely love to, Ann,

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-but I don't...

-From a distance!

-Yeah.

-That would be incredible.

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I feel like bears is...

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Just feels a bit too much of a push, doesn't it?

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-No, not bears.

-Ann's convinced it isn't bears so we're going to

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-leave bears alone.

-What about wolves?

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-Wolves.

-Same?

-The thing about wolves is, there

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have been conversations about the possibility of bringing wolves back

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to the British Isles, I know that, but I don't think it's happened.

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What's the normal habitat for a beaver, does anyone know?

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-River.

-River.

-Building dams.

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So, Scotland, it would suit all of that?

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-It would. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-Have they ever been extinct in Scotland?

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-Woods, rivers?

-I think...

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-Hmm.

-This is a reintroduction.

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-That is a pertinent question.

-I don't think they've been extinct.

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So you think beavers are there but they've always been there?

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Well, that's my gut instinct. I don't know that.

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I think I might just go with Irish elk.

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Yeah, but I sort of hate to go for Irish elk and it be wrong and then

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Patrick to say, "It is an IRISH elk, we're talking about Scotland".

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-And for us to go...

-Which is a very good point.

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-You know what I mean?

-I wouldn't possibly say that!

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I think you would be delighted if we said Irish elk and it was wrong.

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And you say Irish elk.

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I would go beavers.

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-Beavers.

-Beavers.

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Butthead?

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Beg your pardon? Beavers.

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-Beavers?

-Beavers.

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We are going to go with beavers.

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OK, I'm assuming that Butthead was an elk reference?

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It was. It was very clever.

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Didn't like it, didn't like it at all.

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I'm going to stick with my thought and go Irish elk on this one because

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there's a little bit of uncertainty in the panel on it, so...

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OK.

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For £200, the correct answer is...

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..beavers.

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-Sorry, guys!

-Oh!

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It's all right, Dave, it's not personal.

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-Sorry, sorry, sorry.

-Beavers. Native Scottish beavers

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were hunted to extinction in the 16th century but Eurasian beavers

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from Norway were released in Argyll in 2009, and they will now be given

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protected status.

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The Irish elk, AKA the giant deer, have been extinct since the ice age.

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Dave, nothing for that. Still three questions in this round, though.

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Plenty of chances to get some cash on the board.

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Here's your next question.

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Absolutely no idea whatsoever. I'm very much open to persuasion

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-on this one.

-OK. I'm sure our panel will bring their extensive

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food knowledge to this. Panel, your debate starts now.

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-Yeah.

-No idea.

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OK, does anyone know what cornichon is?

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Yeah, cornichon is like a little gherkin.

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-OK.

-So like a tiny, little pickled cucumber.

-OK.

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On that basis, I feel like cornichon has already got another name

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-in gherkin.

-In gherkin!

-It can't have that many names,

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-it can't be greedy.

-Yeah, garbanzo, what are we talking about?

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-Is that Italian, do you think?

-It sounds Italian.

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Because the only alternative name on that board I know is cauliflower,

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which I believe is chou-fleur, is that right, in French?

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Ooh! I like it!

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But then, if we're talking Italian, that doesn't really help at all.

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No, it feels like you are just bragging about your French.

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-Yes, yes.

-Courgette is zucchini.

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-Oh, very good.

-Oh, well done.

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Which leaves us with chickpea but that garbanzo just doesn't sound

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-like...

-It doesn't sound right.

-It doesn't sound right, does it?

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-My gut instinct is no.

-No, I'm with you, I'm with you.

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And it is a gut-based question.

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Ho, ho, ho(!)

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My gut would go chickpea, and I've got no idea why.

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OK. Well, do you know what?

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I can't offer anything else other than that.

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I don't know. I'm happy to go with chickpea but I don't know, Dave,

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and none of us know, actually.

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So we're going to go with my ill-informed gut

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and we're going to go, weirdly, with chickpea.

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So the key phrase in that debate, Dave,

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comes from Ann, when she says, "None of us know".

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"None of us know". Last time I went on my own and got nowhere,

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so let's go chickpea with the panel.

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OK, on the basis that when you went alone it didn't work out,

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you're going for chickpea, you're going with the panel.

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For £200, the correct answer is...

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-It is chickpea!

-Oh, thanks, guys!

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Well done. Oh, well done, sir, brilliant.

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-Good knowledge, panel(!)

-Never in doubt(!)

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Absolutely. Never in doubt.

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-Never in doubt, never in doubt.

-It was a bit of a "gimme", I thought.

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Especially in North America, chickpeas are known as

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garbanzo or the garbanzo bean.

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-The term garbanzo comes from Spanish.

-Spanish, yeah.

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Well played, Dave, though, it means you are up and running.

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£200 in the prize pot.

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-APPLAUSE

-Thank you.

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Here comes your next one.

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I'm not a great horse racing fan.

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I know Party Politics won the Grand National.

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That's not a lot of help.

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OK, well, hold that thought.

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So, Party Politics, Ann, I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this.

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Your debate starts now.

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No, I do wish I'd known he was running

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because I would have backed him.

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Three of those years are general election years, but 1990 was also

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very famous for the fall of Thatcher.

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So if one's talking about memorably, I'm trying to link it to a

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party but, well, you know, any of them will do.

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-I... I...

-'87 seems a long time ago for something...

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I remember hearing Party Politics from the commentator

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-shouting the name.

-Do you?

-OK.

-Right.

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But whether it's a clip I've seen or whatever,

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but '87 does seem a long time ago.

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Yeah, so I think 1997 is too recent.

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I mean, this is so kind of vague but I sort of agree that '87 is a bit

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too early, and I think that '97 is a bit too recent,

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so I'd be going between 1990 and 1992.

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Do we know when, within the year,

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the Grand National is run and when the election would have been?

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-It is always run March, isn't it?

-And what about the election?

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-I know the election, I think you will find, was May/June.

-Hmm.

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-'90 would be...

-'90 was the fall of Thatcher.

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The most memorable sort of political year because of the fall of

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-Thatcher, would you say?

-But that didn't happen until November,

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and your interesting question is the Grand National would have been

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in March, and nobody knew it was going to happen in November,

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the fall of Thatcher, nobody knew it.

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Why was it memorable? Did he do something else in the race

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that was memorable?

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Ran faster than the other horses.

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-Thank you(!)

-Yeah.

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Is that memorable? For the horse, yeah.

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With absolute confidence and conviction,

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we're going to go with 1990...

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two.

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You little tease there, Rick, I see what you did there!

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So, they've plumped for '92.

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Right, well, I can remember refereeing a football match in the

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pouring rain on Grand National day and I'm pretty sure that that was

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when Party Politics won,

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but when that was, I've no idea, but it would rule out 1987.

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So, on that basis, 1992.

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With the panel.

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Going for 1992 for the year that Party Politics won the National.

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Correct answer is...

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It was! 1992.

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Thank you, Rav. Thank you.

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What are you thanking these people for, Dave?

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Cos we got it right, Patrick!

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They've got three out of three - it's terrific.

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Ridden by Carl Llewellyn, the great Carl Llewellyn,

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Party Politics beat Romany King by 2.5 lengths in April 1992,

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just days before John Major's general election success

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in the 1992 general election.

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-Well played, Dave. It means your prize pot is up to £400.

-Lucky...

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Thank you. APPLAUSE

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One more question to go on this round - here it comes.

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I've got a feeling that, because Vasco Da Gama was the first person

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to circumnavigate the world, that he might predate Sir Walter Raleigh.

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My inkling is towards Marco Polo

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but, again, I'm far from 100% certain.

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Don't worry - our panel will talk this through.

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They'll know nothing about this and they'll choose the right answer.

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Panel, your debate starts now.

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What have we got, then? Anyone... Anyone want to start us off?

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So, Christopher Columbus - was he the USA?

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Is that what he discovered?

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-He discovered America.

-Yes. Yes.

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So, do we have a rough time when that would have happened?

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-1492?

-What?

-As early as that?

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-It wasn't that early, surely?

-1492?

-What about Marco Polo?

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He's Venetian.

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OK.

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And I think he's pretty early.

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Do we know what he discovered?

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-I think he's sort of roaming around in the Far East, isn't he?

-OK.

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-Definitely before Raleigh's time.

-Do we know what he discovered or did?

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-Sir Walter Raleigh?

-Was he bringing back potatoes?

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He was bringing back potatoes and tobacco

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and things of that nature, yeah.

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And God bless him for it!

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-Yes, I agree.

-Thank you, Walter.

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"Vasso" Da Gama?

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He's the one I'm much less certain about.

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Vasco Da Gama is...

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Well, Dave said that he was the first person

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-to circumnavigate the globe.

-I don't think he did.

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-I didn't know that, but it sounds...

-I don't think he did.

-Sounds good.

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And I think that would have been the same sort of time as Columbus.

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-I'm going to go with Marco Polo, I think.

-As the first?

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This is probably the most confident we've been - so beware, Dave.

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We would go for Marco Polo.

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Confidence from the panel.

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Indeed.

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I'm not so sure Vasco Da Gama was the first person to circumnavigate

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-the globe now...

-Dave!

-It might have been Ferdinand Magellan.

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But Vasco Da Gama was about that sort of time.

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So, yeah, Marco Polo.

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I think we're all agreed.

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-Yeah.

-You've gone for Marco Polo.

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For £200, was Marco Polo born first?

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-He was!

-Well done.

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Very nice work, Dave.

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Marco Polo was born in Venice around the year 1254.

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Christopher Columbus was born in Genoa in 1451.

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In fourteen hundred and ninety two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

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-Oh!

-Well done.

-Ah!

-That's impressive!

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-That's impressive.

-Well done.

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Vasco Da Gama was born in 1469 in Portugal

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and played centre of midfield for Benfica.

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Sir Walter Raleigh was born in the 1550s.

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So, er, very well played, panel. Very well done.

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-Well done.

-Well worked out, Dave.

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It means at the end of Round One, your prize pot is up to £600.

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-Brilliant.

-Thanks very much, guys.

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So, Dave, how do you think the panel's faring so far?

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Yeah, I think they're doing well.

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They've got a good amount of intuition in there as well.

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That's a very, very polite way of saying

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"not much knowledge at all but quite a bit of luck".

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OK, let's play Round Two.

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OK, Dave, Round Two is our picture round.

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We need you to place three pictures in the correct order.

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Three questions in this round, £300 for each correct answer.

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A possible £900 up for grabs.

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Here comes your first picture question.

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I've never, ever seen a Star Wars film.

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I know nothing about it at all

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but I believe Yoda is a character from Star Wars.

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What you need is someone who may have been a teenager

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around this time, in his bedroom, watching these films...

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Not looking at anybody in particular, Rick.

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Do you think I'm 45, Patrick?!

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Let's see if our panel can sort this out for you.

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Panel, your debate starts now.

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Ann, have you any ideas on this one?

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Well, I've seen all three.

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-OK.

-Did you see them in chronological order?

0:17:320:17:34

-No, I didn't.

-Oh, that would've been really helpful.

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I remember Star Wars being very big at the end of the '70s

0:17:370:17:42

and the reason I remember that was I fought the '79 election and I was

0:17:420:17:46

taken by a friend to see The Empire Strikes Back afterwards.

0:17:460:17:49

ET I remember coming out.

0:17:490:17:52

I was a little kid and that was in 1982.

0:17:520:17:54

-Oh, just bang on?

-Well done.

-Yeah, definitely.

-Well done.

-Definitely.

0:17:540:17:57

-OK, so that's interesting.

-And Gremlins was...

-Gremlins,

0:17:570:18:00

-I watched at the cinema. It was later.

-A couple of years later.

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Well, it was also... Stephen Spielberg directed both

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and this was his next big one and that was in '84.

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-No, I think that Robert Zemeckis directed Gremlins.

-Oh, did he?

-Yeah.

0:18:090:18:12

-Not that that's relevant.

-But I do think the date is '84.

0:18:120:18:15

In which case, our real question is,

0:18:150:18:18

did this chap come in any of the prequels to

0:18:180:18:22

Return Of The Jedi? I can't see him in Star Wars at all.

0:18:220:18:25

I don't think he's in Star Wars, and I'm pretty...

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-He's not in Empire Strikes Back, is he?

-Empire Strikes Back, no.

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I don't think he is, and if that was in '83,

0:18:290:18:32

which I've got a feeling Return Of The Jedi was,

0:18:320:18:34

-it would go right bang in the middle.

-One, two, three.

0:18:340:18:37

So we think that, don't we?

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The only thing is that I don't know when Return Of The Jedi came out.

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Was there a four-year gap between Empire Strikes Back

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-and Return Of The Jedi?

-It's pretty long, isn't it?

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It is quite long.

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I was still living at home

0:18:490:18:52

-when the Return Of The Jedi came out...

-Oh!

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..because I went to see it '81-ish.

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-Oh!

-OK.

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I mean, it would make sense to have...

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-It would be a long gap.

-..two-year, two-year, gaps.

-So do you want to

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-swap them round?

-So maybe we... Shall we swap?

-Yeah, let's swap.

-OK.

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That covers us just in case he does pop up in one of the earlier ones.

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-Yeah. Agreed.

-Shall we do that?

-OK.

-Yeah, let's do that.

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-OK.

-Now, I've got the earliest, right?

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Yes. So Yoda, ET, Gremlins

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is the order that we'd like to go for.

0:19:220:19:24

So, Dave, this is a first.

0:19:260:19:27

The panel bringing genuine knowledge to this question.

0:19:270:19:30

-Faulty memories, probably.

-What do you make of all this?

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Well, first of all, my wife will be shouting at the TV screen,

0:19:330:19:37

saying the answer to this cos she loves all three of those films.

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Let's go with that order of Yoda, ET and Gremlins.

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OK, you're going with the panel.

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You believe Yoda was the one that appeared in a feature film first,

0:19:490:19:52

then ET and then Gremlins.

0:19:520:19:55

For £300, is that the correct order?

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-It is!

-Oh!

-Yes!

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-Well done, panel.

-Excellent.

-Yeah, we worked that out -

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-we didn't even guess.

-Very pleased with that.

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-Very good last-minute swap.

-Yeah.

-Very good last-minute swap there.

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-Excellent.

-Yoda first appeared

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-in the Star Wars film The Empire Strikes Back...

-Ooh!

-..in 1980.

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So you were right to cover your bets by swapping that back.

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ET - 1982, Rav. Very well remembered.

0:20:270:20:32

And then Gremlins from 1984.

0:20:320:20:35

-Good childhood knowledge there.

-Spot-on.

0:20:350:20:37

-That's fantastic.

-You never thought then...

-Crop up all those years later!

0:20:370:20:41

..that it would ever win Dave £300.

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-But it has!

-Brilliant.

0:20:430:20:45

Very well done, Dave.

0:20:450:20:47

It means you're up to £900.

0:20:470:20:50

Thank you. Thank you, panel.

0:20:500:20:51

Here comes your next picture question.

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Right, OK. Emeli Sande probably won round about 2012 -

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she did the big Olympics show then.

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Adele - did she win when she had 19 or 21?

0:21:200:21:24

And Ellie Goulding, little bit later, I would think.

0:21:240:21:28

That's my initial thoughts.

0:21:280:21:31

OK, panel, let's see if we can sort this out. Your debate starts now.

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THEY CHUCKLE

0:21:350:21:36

-I've only ever heard of one of them...

-Go on.

-..and that's Adele.

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-OK.

-I haven't a clue who these people are so, Dave,

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-whatever I say, do the opposite.

-Rick, I'm sorry, this is...

0:21:430:21:45

-You're going to have to...

-Yeah, it's all down to you.

-Come on.

0:21:450:21:48

-I think I've met them all, actually.

-Do you know about the Brits?

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Cos we've got here the British female solo artist,

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-as opposed to best album or something like that.

-Yeah.

0:21:530:21:57

I suspect that our knowledge of the winners of Brit Awards is not

0:21:570:22:00

-detailed enough.

-We're not going to be good.

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We're going to be like, "Oh, was that best album?"

0:22:020:22:05

So, the one thing that I definitely agreed with was...

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Emeli Sande had a huge year in 2012 and she was everywhere...

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-Yeah. OK.

-..to the point of, "Oh, you're here AGAIN, are you?"

0:22:130:22:16

19 had come out before that...

0:22:160:22:18

-Yeah.

-..I think. But did she win?

0:22:180:22:20

-She must have won an award, surely.

-I think she will have done.

0:22:200:22:23

-Yeah.

-And that would have been about 2-10, 2-11, something like that,

0:22:230:22:25

-I think, for 19.

-Yeah, so I would probably put Adele...

0:22:250:22:28

-First.

-..before Emeli Sande.

-That's going to be before Ellie Goulding.

0:22:280:22:31

-It's got to be before.

-Ellie Goulding.

0:22:310:22:33

Ellie Goulding's been around for a while but it kind of really

0:22:330:22:36

kicked off for her in the last few years, didn't it?

0:22:360:22:38

-Yeah.

-Ann's just head in hands here.

0:22:380:22:40

I remember the Beatles, if that's any use.

0:22:400:22:42

Oh, the Beatles were definitely... Have you got a Beatles card?

0:22:420:22:45

They were definitely the earliest.

0:22:450:22:46

So which one's...?

0:22:460:22:48

-So it's...

-This is newest.

0:22:480:22:50

Adele. Yeah.

0:22:500:22:52

-This is the first?

-This is the order we go for -

0:22:520:22:55

Adele first, Emeli Sande,

0:22:550:22:58

Ellie Goulding. That's our order.

0:22:580:23:01

That be their order, Dave.

0:23:020:23:03

Been listening to what the panel are saying.

0:23:040:23:07

Like the arguments that they've put forward, so I'm going to stick with

0:23:070:23:11

my original thought and what the panel have said, as well,

0:23:110:23:13

of Adele, Emeli Sande and Ellie Goulding.

0:23:130:23:16

Good pop knowledge from yourself, Dave, I have to say.

0:23:170:23:19

For £300, is that the correct order?

0:23:190:23:23

It IS the correct order!

0:23:310:23:32

-Well done. Well done.

-So, well done.

0:23:320:23:35

Well played, Dave. Adele first won in 2012 and then again in 2016.

0:23:350:23:41

Emeli Sande first won in 2013 - you were right, guys -

0:23:410:23:45

and Ellie Goulding not till 2014.

0:23:450:23:48

Well played. Well done, Dave.

0:23:490:23:51

It means you're now up to £1,200.

0:23:510:23:53

Wow! Thank you.

0:23:530:23:55

Here comes the final picture question.

0:23:580:24:00

From the heaviest to the lightest.

0:24:170:24:19

No idea again.

0:24:190:24:21

I'll go the way it's up on the screen as an initial thought.

0:24:220:24:25

OK, panel, Dave going for the order

0:24:250:24:28

in which it sits - liver, spleen,

0:24:280:24:29

and then a pair of lungs.

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What do you make of this? Your debate starts now.

0:24:310:24:33

I tend to agree.

0:24:330:24:35

I think the liver is the heaviest.

0:24:350:24:37

Imagining yourself holding liver that you buy at the butcher's -

0:24:370:24:41

it's actually quite heavy.

0:24:410:24:43

I've never bought human liver, is the only thing.

0:24:430:24:45

No, nor have I, but you understand entirely what I'm saying.

0:24:450:24:49

It's lovely with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

0:24:490:24:51

The liver's solid, but the lungs -

0:24:530:24:55

they are deceptively large

0:24:550:24:57

when they're stretched out, because lungs can

0:24:570:24:59

actually cover a tennis court.

0:24:590:25:01

How do you know that?

0:25:010:25:02

When I was watching ET and Gremlins...

0:25:030:25:05

-Yeah.

-..years ago...

0:25:050:25:07

I dissected some lungs.

0:25:070:25:08

I was reading some fact books at the time.

0:25:080:25:10

I still say lungs are the lightest but I am happy enough to...

0:25:120:25:17

To be overruled.

0:25:170:25:18

-Yeah, I...

-Have you ever said that in your life, Ann?

0:25:180:25:21

Very occasionally!

0:25:210:25:22

I think the spleen is...

0:25:250:25:27

small. I mean, it is going to be an issue. We just kind of...

0:25:270:25:30

I guess that's the thing, isn't it? You just close your eyes

0:25:300:25:33

and imagine cradling a spleen.

0:25:330:25:34

It's not that heavy.

0:25:350:25:37

-It's not that heavy. Now do it...

-Cradle a pair of lungs.

-Lungs.

0:25:380:25:40

Similar weight - that's not helping.

0:25:430:25:45

-Let's do a little swap here.

-OK. Are we happy with that?

-Yeah, OK,

0:25:460:25:49

so the order we'll go for is liver heaviest, then the lungs,

0:25:490:25:53

then the spleen. That is our order.

0:25:530:25:56

OK, Dave, it looked like there was some science being added to this

0:25:580:26:02

until Rick started to weigh an imaginary spleen.

0:26:020:26:05

These guys have done so well so far.

0:26:070:26:09

By the law of averages, I think we may be due a fall on this one.

0:26:090:26:13

So I'm going to put the spleen back in the middle

0:26:130:26:15

and the lungs at the end.

0:26:150:26:16

-I think you're right.

-Oh, OK!

0:26:160:26:19

You're going against the panel.

0:26:190:26:21

I'm going against them.

0:26:210:26:22

OK, your original thought -

0:26:220:26:24

liver, then the spleen, then the pair of lungs,

0:26:240:26:26

from the heaviest to the lightest.

0:26:260:26:28

For £300, is that the correct order?

0:26:280:26:31

Oh!

0:26:410:26:42

It's the wrong order, Dave.

0:26:420:26:45

Let's have a look at the correct order.

0:26:450:26:47

I bet they're right. I bet they're right.

0:26:470:26:49

-Oh!

-The panel were right.

-Guys!

0:26:490:26:52

Should have gone with the panel there.

0:26:520:26:54

The liver weighs roughly 1,560 grams.

0:26:540:26:57

-The lungs together...

-Yeah, that's right.

0:26:570:27:00

..weigh approximately 1,300 grams.

0:27:000:27:03

-Yeah.

-The spleen - 175 grams.

0:27:030:27:07

-Tiny. Absolutely tiny.

-Much, much lighter.

0:27:070:27:09

-Dave, nothing for that question.

-Not that time.

-You're still doing well, though.

0:27:090:27:13

At the end of Round Two, you're up to £1,200.

0:27:130:27:15

Lovely. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Sorry about that.

0:27:150:27:20

So, how's the panel faring?

0:27:200:27:22

Still proving useful?

0:27:220:27:23

100% record, still, they've got.

0:27:230:27:25

I need to listen to other people, don't I?

0:27:250:27:27

Well done. You're up to £1,200.

0:27:290:27:31

£1,500 still up for grabs.

0:27:310:27:32

Let's play Round Three.

0:27:320:27:34

Dave, in Round Three you'll face questions that contain

0:27:360:27:39

three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

0:27:390:27:41

Only one of them is true.

0:27:410:27:43

We need you to find that true statement.

0:27:430:27:45

Three questions in this round, £500 for each correct answer.

0:27:450:27:48

A possible 1,500 quid that you can add to the prize pot.

0:27:480:27:52

Here comes your first one.

0:27:520:27:54

I think that I've read somewhere

0:28:150:28:18

that a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is considered lucky.

0:28:180:28:23

OK, panel, Dave thinks he may have read this.

0:28:230:28:26

Let's see if you can keep your lucky run going.

0:28:260:28:29

Your debate starts now.

0:28:290:28:30

Anybody been to Japan?

0:28:300:28:32

I've just got back from Japan on my honeymoon.

0:28:320:28:35

Did you slurp in a restaurant?

0:28:350:28:37

Just a bit, Ann!

0:28:370:28:39

They couldn't stop me! So I actually think that slurping in restaurants

0:28:390:28:43

is, on the contrary, encouraged.

0:28:430:28:46

-I believe so.

-And it's not impolite at all.

0:28:460:28:49

And you do it with ramen, cos it's so hot

0:28:490:28:51

-and you need to get some air in...

-OK, I'd go with that.

0:28:510:28:53

..to stop you burning your mouth.

0:28:530:28:54

And you noticed people doing it? No-one was arrested?

0:28:540:28:57

Oh, loads of it. No-one got arrested that I saw.

0:28:570:28:59

OK. Did you see any babies crying next to a sumo wrestler?

0:28:590:29:02

-I

-made a baby cry and I felt like I had quite a good day afterwards.

0:29:020:29:06

I've not heard that but it's the kind of thing that sounds plausible.

0:29:090:29:13

-Yeah.

-In kind of....

-Yeah.

-In that culture.

0:29:130:29:16

And we've got the karaoke now.

0:29:160:29:18

Where it says "hear me sing", that doesn't jump out.

0:29:180:29:21

I don't think that's quite right.

0:29:210:29:23

-Or is it?

-Roots and stems?

-I don't speak any Japanese.

0:29:230:29:27

-Anything?

-I can't remember what it means but I don't think it's

0:29:270:29:30

"hear me sing" - it's something quite...

0:29:300:29:33

That's what I'm thinking.

0:29:330:29:34

It's sort of quite weirdly poetic.

0:29:350:29:38

I'm assuming you've all sung karaoke?

0:29:380:29:40

-Don't be daft!

-Yeah.

0:29:400:29:42

You must've done a little karaoke!

0:29:420:29:43

I'm tone deaf!

0:29:430:29:44

That's not a problem.

0:29:440:29:46

-It would be if you had me trying it.

-It's more fun.

-Yeah.

0:29:460:29:49

-Oh. Well, we know what we're doing afterwards, Ann!

-We are not!

0:29:490:29:52

-I think it's the first.

-Yes.

0:29:530:29:55

Our answer would be that a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is lucky.

0:29:550:29:59

So, on the basis that the panel have a 100% record,

0:30:010:30:04

based purely on luck, there must be children all the way from the studio

0:30:040:30:08

to the house in tears today.

0:30:080:30:11

I'm in agreement with the panel. I'm sure it's A, the sumo wrestler.

0:30:110:30:16

OK, it was your first thought - you thought you read that somewhere.

0:30:160:30:19

In Japan, a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is considered lucky.

0:30:190:30:23

For £500, is that true?

0:30:230:30:26

-It is!

-Well done, guys.

0:30:360:30:38

It is indeed. It is

0:30:390:30:41

part of an annual festival that has been held for over 400 years.

0:30:410:30:45

Sumo wrestlers make loud noises and faces at babies

0:30:450:30:48

to get those babies to start crying.

0:30:480:30:50

Karaoke is "empty orchestra".

0:30:530:30:55

-Oh!

-Ah!

0:30:550:30:56

It is actually polite to slurp noodles in restaurants -

0:30:560:31:00

it shows that you have enjoyed the meal.

0:31:000:31:02

Very well done. It means you're up to £1,700.

0:31:020:31:05

Brilliant. Thank you.

0:31:050:31:06

Another £500 up for grabs for this. Here it comes.

0:31:090:31:13

Walking on the moon was late '60s, early '70s.

0:31:390:31:44

Not sure of the split on that one.

0:31:440:31:46

Can't think why they'd pay thousands of dollars for volunteers

0:31:460:31:49

to lie in bed for weeks, so that's probably a good reason

0:31:490:31:51

for the Americans to decide to do it,

0:31:510:31:54

and I've no idea what NASA'S logo looks like.

0:31:540:31:57

So no help to you guys at all on that one, I'm afraid.

0:31:570:32:00

I mean, don't worry.

0:32:000:32:01

They've all made babies cry on the way to the studio -

0:32:010:32:04

let's see if they can keep their lucky streak going.

0:32:040:32:06

Panel, your debate starts now.

0:32:060:32:07

-Moon landing...

-Well, the moon walk was

0:32:070:32:10

-right at the end of the '60s - '69.

-The moon landing...?

0:32:100:32:12

-Yes.

-..was '69.

0:32:120:32:14

And that was the first walk.

0:32:140:32:15

-Correct.

-That was only two people.

0:32:150:32:17

-At that time.

-Yeah.

-But you're not going to have another one

0:32:170:32:19

within a year, which would be the end of the '60s?

0:32:190:32:21

You're certainly not going to have lots within a year,

0:32:210:32:24

because this is more than at any other time.

0:32:240:32:26

Yes, any other decade, so the '70s surely would have more than trying

0:32:260:32:31

-to get more people walking in 1969.

-I think I read somewhere -

0:32:310:32:33

I can't remember - something like 16 men have actually walked

0:32:330:32:36

-on the moon. Well, that didn't all happen in '69.

-The middle one...

0:32:360:32:39

-..I think is plausible, because...

-I do.

0:32:400:32:42

..they'd be looking to study the effects of being...

0:32:420:32:45

-In one position for a long time, yeah.

-..stationary and not moving,

0:32:450:32:48

-what the body does.

-That could make sense.

-That makes sense.

0:32:480:32:50

-I think that makes a lot of sense.

-Which brings us on to

0:32:500:32:53

-what I presume is Latin.

-It is Latin.

-Anyone going to have a...

0:32:530:32:56

I'm going to have a guess and then Ann's going to tell me whether I'm

0:32:560:32:58

-right.

-Go on, go on.

-I think that probably means

0:32:580:33:00

-"to infinity and beyond".

-Yes.

-Which is from Toy Story.

0:33:000:33:04

-Well done.

-So I don't think...

-If you get that, that'll be amazing.

0:33:040:33:07

I think it's lying in bed.

0:33:070:33:08

OK, that would be brilliant, yeah.

0:33:080:33:10

I really do. I mean, it's the effects of immobility.

0:33:100:33:13

When you go into space, you're immobile for a very long time.

0:33:130:33:16

And they'll obviously want to test on volunteers -

0:33:160:33:18

that'd be perfect. I think the middle one.

0:33:180:33:20

Especially if you're sending people on long journeys,

0:33:200:33:22

they're going to be in stasis. You need to study that stuff.

0:33:220:33:25

This is the most confident I've been.

0:33:250:33:28

I like the sound of that.

0:33:280:33:29

Make of that what you will, Dave.

0:33:290:33:31

I think I've been sufficiently appealed to by the middle one.

0:33:310:33:34

-We will go...

-Yeah.

-..with the middle answer.

0:33:340:33:36

We think that NASA pay thousands of dollars

0:33:360:33:39

to people to lie in bed and study them.

0:33:390:33:41

-What do you make of that, Dave?

-I'm going to go with the panel

0:33:430:33:46

and they're going to pay volunteers to lie in bed,

0:33:460:33:49

-cos it's a great job.

-It would be a great job, I have to say.

0:33:490:33:53

You're going for B, you're agreeing with the panel.

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For £500, the correct statement is...

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-It's B!

-Yes. Well done.

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It is B. Very well done.

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They are called bed-rest studies.

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The purpose of the study is exactly what you said,

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to research the microgravity on the human body.

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There were two manned moon landings in the 1960s,

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with four astronauts walking on the moon. But in the 1970s,

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from 1970 to 1972, there were four moon landings,

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with eight people walking on the moon, 12 in total.

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"Ad infinitum et ultra" is "to infinity and beyond",

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and it is the catchphrase of Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story films.

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Very well done, Rick.

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I believe it is a 100% record from the panel.

0:34:530:34:57

Another £500 for you.

0:34:570:34:58

-Fantastic.

-You are up to £2,200.

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Thanks very much, guys.

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Brilliant.

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OK, one more question to go in this round.

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Another £500 up for grabs.

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Here we go.

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A 100% record from our panel so far. They'll sort this out no problems.

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Panel, your debate starts now.

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Well, I think you can rule out publishing more novels

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than Mary Shelley because he was a poet.

0:35:380:35:40

-Yeah.

-Now, you know, unless he published, too,

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and I don't think he did - he was a poet. He died very young.

0:35:430:35:48

-Right.

-And he was writing at the same time as Wordsworth, Coleridge,

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the Romance Poets, as they were called.

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I've got a feeling he was the youngest of them.

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It's a feeling.

0:35:570:35:58

-OK.

-But it's quite a strong one.

-OK.

0:35:580:36:01

-And then Napoleon...

-What his height was, I've no idea.

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Well, Napoleon, I believe, was 5'4".

0:36:040:36:06

-But was Keats short?

-Well, that's very, very short -

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-to be shorter than 5'4". Do you think?

-Back in the day, though,

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it was more in vogue to be short.

0:36:120:36:14

Well, not a question of in vogue. It was just the way we were developing!

0:36:140:36:17

I was joking, Ann! It's OK.

0:36:170:36:20

-It's OK.

-You would've had a terrible time!

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If I could direct height to vogue, I would be rather more than I am.

0:36:220:36:27

So we're kind of erring towards shorter than Napoleon, aren't we?

0:36:280:36:33

-I think. Just on the basis...

-I know nothing to rule it out.

0:36:330:36:36

-Yeah.

-I know nothing to rule that out.

0:36:360:36:38

I would go with him being shorter than Napoleon.

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By a process of elimination, I'd arrive at that.

0:36:410:36:44

-Yeah.

-OK, so our answer is "shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte".

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What do you make of that, Dave?

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Process of elimination and hoping that the 100% record continues,

0:36:520:36:56

I'll go with the panel and go for C, shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte.

0:36:560:37:00

You're going with the panel.

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Was John Keats shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte, for £500?

0:37:030:37:08

-He was!

-Fantastic!

0:37:180:37:20

-What a result!

-Well done, Ann.

0:37:210:37:23

-I think that was mainly you.

-That was just elimination.

0:37:230:37:25

I mean, well done, panel.

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What can we say?

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-Dream team.

-Dream team. You either know it or you don't, really.

0:37:280:37:31

-That's the thing.

-I don't think a panel has ever gone through

0:37:310:37:34

one of these shows with a 100% record, so hats off there.

0:37:340:37:38

Keats is reported to have been just over five feet tall.

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Napoleon's height was historically given as 5'2"

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but modern historians estimate that his height may have been

0:37:460:37:50

much greater, possibly 5'6".

0:37:500:37:52

Huge man. Dave, very well played.

0:37:520:37:54

At the end of Round Three, your prize pot is up to £2,700.

0:37:540:37:58

-Brilliant.

-Well done.

-Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you.

0:37:580:38:01

So, only one question between you and that money.

0:38:030:38:06

If you manage to answer our Final Debate question correctly,

0:38:060:38:09

any plans for the cash?

0:38:090:38:10

Yeah, I think we'd like to do another trip,

0:38:100:38:12

possibly up to the fjords and see the northern lights, as well, on a cruise.

0:38:120:38:17

Dave, there is only one question between you and that £2,700.

0:38:170:38:21

It is, of course, the Final Debate question

0:38:210:38:24

but you are not on your own.

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You will choose one of the 100% club here to help you in the debate.

0:38:250:38:31

So, based on their magnificent performance today,

0:38:310:38:36

who will be joining you in The Final Debate?

0:38:360:38:38

Will you play party politics with Ann?

0:38:380:38:40

Will you go to infinity and beyond with Rick?

0:38:400:38:42

Or will it be our own petit chou-fleur? Will it be Rav?

0:38:420:38:46

Well, they've all done so tremendously well,

0:38:470:38:49

it's really difficult. But I'm going to go with Rick.

0:38:490:38:52

OK, Rick, please join us as we play The Final Debate.

0:38:520:38:55

OK, Rick, Dave has chosen you.

0:39:010:39:03

I mean, he could have chosen anyone from the 100% club...

0:39:030:39:05

-Uh-huh.

-..but he has put his faith in you.

0:39:050:39:08

Yeah. I mean, I hope your faith hasn't been misplaced, Dave.

0:39:080:39:11

-I'm sure it hasn't.

-We just need to ride this lucky wave,

0:39:110:39:14

get you that money, get you to the fjords.

0:39:140:39:17

Dave, it is the Final Debate question so we're going to give you

0:39:170:39:19

two choices. Have a look at this.

0:39:190:39:21

Tell me what you fancy.

0:39:210:39:23

-Hmm.

-Depends which sport it is, doesn't it?

0:39:280:39:30

It does. Which sport is it, Patrick?

0:39:300:39:32

Well, funny you should mention...

0:39:320:39:34

-If it's football, hurrah.

-If it's football, we're in business.

0:39:340:39:37

I mean, obviously, obviously, up to you but I would probably go sport.

0:39:390:39:43

-What's your TV like?

-Yeah.

0:39:430:39:45

Not bad.

0:39:450:39:46

But I don't know. If it's Downton Abbey, then we've had it.

0:39:480:39:51

-Shall we go sport?

-Let's go sport.

0:39:510:39:53

We'll go sport, please.

0:39:530:39:54

-You're going for sport.

-Yeah.

0:39:540:39:57

45 seconds on the clock, £2,700 up for grabs, six possible answers.

0:39:570:40:02

You know we need three correct answers.

0:40:020:40:04

Yeah.

0:40:040:40:05

Here we go on sport.

0:40:050:40:07

Here's your Final Debate question.

0:40:070:40:08

Your time starts now.

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Bears, Dolphins, Seahawks.

0:40:320:40:35

-Oh, you're straight in with that?

-That's my thoughts, yeah.

0:40:350:40:38

-I reckon... I reckon they've done that.

-Dave, I love it.

0:40:380:40:40

I was going to say Dolphins,

0:40:400:40:42

pretty sure, because in Ace Ventura there's a guy who's won it and...

0:40:420:40:47

-Bears...

-William Perry, the Refrigerator.

0:40:470:40:50

The Re... The Refrigerator.

0:40:500:40:52

Don't know what you're talking about, but fine.

0:40:520:40:54

-Yeah. He was...

-He was the massive...

0:40:540:40:56

The massive fella, yeah.

0:40:560:40:58

-20 seconds.

-And you think Seahawks?

0:40:580:41:00

I think the Seahawks, yeah.

0:41:000:41:02

I mean, I've... I'm not an American football fan

0:41:020:41:05

but I'd definitely go with Bears and Dolphins and I think...

0:41:050:41:10

-I think...

-If you're...

-It's the one that jumps out at me

0:41:100:41:12

-in front of the others.

-If the hawk is jumping,

0:41:120:41:15

-pick the hawk - that's my motto.

-Panthers are quite new. Right.

0:41:150:41:18

OK, Dave, three answers.

0:41:180:41:19

Chicago Bears.

0:41:190:41:21

Miami Dolphins.

0:41:210:41:22

Seattle Seahawks.

0:41:220:41:23

Here we go.

0:41:260:41:27

For £2,700, the first team you gave me was the Chicago Bears.

0:41:270:41:32

Have the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl?

0:41:320:41:35

They have.

0:41:430:41:45

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:41:450:41:47

Well played. Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl in '86

0:41:470:41:50

and William Perry, the Refrigerator, played on that team.

0:41:500:41:54

Next, to keep you in the game, for £2,700,

0:41:540:41:59

have the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl?

0:41:590:42:01

They have!

0:42:140:42:16

-Well done.

-They won in '72 and '73,

0:42:180:42:22

which brings us to the Seattle Seahawks.

0:42:220:42:25

Now, this was the one you were least sure of.

0:42:250:42:27

-Yeah, that's right.

-Any other names up there?

0:42:270:42:30

Er...I would think the other possible one is the Eagles, but...

0:42:300:42:34

You think maybe the Eagles but you've gone for the Seahawks.

0:42:340:42:37

For £2,700...

0:42:390:42:41

..have the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl?

0:42:420:42:46

Yes!

0:43:070:43:08

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:43:100:43:12

Come here, you! Come on!

0:43:120:43:14

-Well done, mate.

-Well played.

-Thank you.

0:43:140:43:17

The Seahawks first won the Super Bowl in 2014.

0:43:170:43:21

Very well played. Very well played, panel. Well done, Dave.

0:43:210:43:24

-You leave today with £2,700.

-Thank you.

0:43:240:43:27

Thank you.

0:43:290:43:31

That is it for Debatable.

0:43:330:43:34

Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -

0:43:340:43:37

to Rick Edwards, to Ann Widdecombe and to Rav Wilding.

0:43:370:43:40

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:43:400:43:42

I do hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time for more heated debates.

0:43:420:43:45

For now, it's goodbye from me.

0:43:450:43:47

Celebrity panel quiz show hosted by Patrick Kielty. Rick Edwards, Ann Widdecombe and Jonathan Edwards debate their way through a series of tricky questions to try and help retired bank manager Dave from Weston-super-Mare walk away with a jackpot.