Episode 18 Debatable

Hello, and welcome to Debatable, where today one player must answer

a series of tricky questions to try and walk away with a jackpot

of over £3,000. But, as always, they are not on their own.

They will have a panel of well-known faces debating their way

to the answers. Will they be all talk and no action?

As always, that's debatable, so let's meet them.

Chin-wagging their way to the answers today we have retired MP

and writer Ann Widdecombe, we have broadcaster Rick Edwards,

and TV presenter Rav Wilding.

APPLAUSE

Rick, you're in the centre chair, you are taking hold of this panel.

-I certainly am.

-It's a good panel, I think.

-It's a great panel.

-It is a good panel.

-I'm thrilled.

-So, you've done the show before.

-I have.

-And, I mean, you were the full package.

You had the brains, you had the looks, you had the charisma,

I mean, we're not putting any pressure on you here.

I love the way he said, "You HAD the looks".

-As if they've now gone.

-I know, I know.

Reminding me of a better time.

We just want to know, Rick, is it still there?

I wasn't entirely sure it was the first time.

-Oh, it was.

-I'm thrilled to be asked back, clearly.

It very much was, and welcome back, Ann.

Thank you, thank you.

Now, in a Strictly way, what are you going to be bringing to the dance?

Well, I shan't be bringing any knowledge of pop or sport.

If such questions were to come up,

you go with the answer I do not give.

-Yes.

-Noted.

Noted. Noted, Rav?

-So, Rav, of course, a former policeman.

-Mm-hm.

You're going to be here to oversee things, keep things right.

Well, let's try.

-Let's try.

-I think I'm going to have my work cut out, though.

But, yeah, law and order is probably going to be one of the strengths,

-if any.

-That is our fully formed panel.

Let's meet today's contestant - it is Dave from Weston-super-Mare.

APPLAUSE

-How you doing?

-Very good.

-Welcome to the show.

-Thank you.

-Tell us a little bit about yourself.

-Right, well, my name is Dave,

I'm a retired bank manager from Weston-super-Mare,

I've got two grown-up daughters and, having retired,

I'm now trying to do as much travelling as I can possibly do.

So what do you do in your spare time?

Right, I enjoy football.

I was a football referee.

Please don't hold that against me, guys!

And now I'm too old to run around the football field,

I sit in the stand and assess other referees and coach them so that

hopefully they can progress their careers through.

So, our panel here, if any of our panel step out of line,

what's it going to be? Is it going to just be a straight red?

Is it going to be a talking to?

Or are you going to do that thing where they wave them away?

Wave them away, no, I think it will just be...

just be a gentle talking to to start with,

and if they step out of line then we may have to use the stepped approach

-with the captain.

-OK, you are going to have to keep a

referee's eye on them because you can only choose one of them to play

-the Final Debate at the end of the show.

-Yes, right.

-Ready to play?

-Excellent, yes.

-OK, here we go, let's play Round One.

This round is multiple choice, Dave.

Each question contains four possible answers,

four questions in this round, each correct answer is worth £200.

A possible £800 up for grabs.

So the best of luck to you, best of luck to the panel,

here's your first question.

Right. Well, I don't think that it would be a brown bear

or a wolf because they are a little bit too vicious to be let out

into Scotland, so...

I mean, you've clearly not had a night out in Glasgow.

No, I haven't actually. Without knowing the answer,

my leaning would be towards the Irish elk, but...

OK, you're leaning towards the Irish elk in Scotland.

Panel, let's see if you can shed some light on this.

Your debate starts now.

Well, I rather share the view that it won't be brown bears.

I mean, would you like to meet a brown bear when you were walking in

-the Scottish Highlands?

-I'd absolutely love to, Ann,

-but I don't...

-From a distance!

-Yeah.

-That would be incredible.

I feel like bears is...

Just feels a bit too much of a push, doesn't it?

-No, not bears.

-Ann's convinced it isn't bears so we're going to

-leave bears alone.

-What about wolves?

-Wolves.

-Same?

-The thing about wolves is, there

have been conversations about the possibility of bringing wolves back

to the British Isles, I know that, but I don't think it's happened.

What's the normal habitat for a beaver, does anyone know?

-River.

-River.

-Building dams.

So, Scotland, it would suit all of that?

-It would. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

-Have they ever been extinct in Scotland?

-Woods, rivers?

-I think...

-Hmm.

-This is a reintroduction.

-That is a pertinent question.

-I don't think they've been extinct.

So you think beavers are there but they've always been there?

Well, that's my gut instinct. I don't know that.

I think I might just go with Irish elk.

Yeah, but I sort of hate to go for Irish elk and it be wrong and then

Patrick to say, "It is an IRISH elk, we're talking about Scotland".

-And for us to go...

-Which is a very good point.

-You know what I mean?

-I wouldn't possibly say that!

I think you would be delighted if we said Irish elk and it was wrong.

And you say Irish elk.

I would go beavers.

-Beavers.

-Beavers.

Butthead?

Beg your pardon? Beavers.

-Beavers?

-Beavers.

We are going to go with beavers.

OK, I'm assuming that Butthead was an elk reference?

It was. It was very clever.

Didn't like it, didn't like it at all.

I'm going to stick with my thought and go Irish elk on this one because

there's a little bit of uncertainty in the panel on it, so...

OK.

For £200, the correct answer is...

..beavers.

-Sorry, guys!

-Oh!

It's all right, Dave, it's not personal.

-Sorry, sorry, sorry.

-Beavers. Native Scottish beavers

were hunted to extinction in the 16th century but Eurasian beavers

from Norway were released in Argyll in 2009, and they will now be given

protected status.

The Irish elk, AKA the giant deer, have been extinct since the ice age.

Dave, nothing for that. Still three questions in this round, though.

Plenty of chances to get some cash on the board.

Here's your next question.

Absolutely no idea whatsoever. I'm very much open to persuasion

-on this one.

-OK. I'm sure our panel will bring their extensive

food knowledge to this. Panel, your debate starts now.

-Yeah.

-No idea.

OK, does anyone know what cornichon is?

Yeah, cornichon is like a little gherkin.

-OK.

-So like a tiny, little pickled cucumber.

-OK.

On that basis, I feel like cornichon has already got another name

-in gherkin.

-In gherkin!

-It can't have that many names,

-it can't be greedy.

-Yeah, garbanzo, what are we talking about?

-Is that Italian, do you think?

-It sounds Italian.

Because the only alternative name on that board I know is cauliflower,

which I believe is chou-fleur, is that right, in French?

Ooh! I like it!

But then, if we're talking Italian, that doesn't really help at all.

No, it feels like you are just bragging about your French.

-Yes, yes.

-Courgette is zucchini.

-Oh, very good.

-Oh, well done.

Which leaves us with chickpea but that garbanzo just doesn't sound

-like...

-It doesn't sound right.

-It doesn't sound right, does it?

-My gut instinct is no.

-No, I'm with you, I'm with you.

And it is a gut-based question.

Ho, ho, ho(!)

My gut would go chickpea, and I've got no idea why.

OK. Well, do you know what?

I can't offer anything else other than that.

I don't know. I'm happy to go with chickpea but I don't know, Dave,

and none of us know, actually.

So we're going to go with my ill-informed gut

and we're going to go, weirdly, with chickpea.

So the key phrase in that debate, Dave,

comes from Ann, when she says, "None of us know".

"None of us know". Last time I went on my own and got nowhere,

so let's go chickpea with the panel.

OK, on the basis that when you went alone it didn't work out,

you're going for chickpea, you're going with the panel.

For £200, the correct answer is...

-It is chickpea!

-Oh, thanks, guys!

Well done. Oh, well done, sir, brilliant.

-Good knowledge, panel(!)

-Never in doubt(!)

Absolutely. Never in doubt.

-Never in doubt, never in doubt.

-It was a bit of a "gimme", I thought.

Especially in North America, chickpeas are known as

garbanzo or the garbanzo bean.

-The term garbanzo comes from Spanish.

-Spanish, yeah.

Well played, Dave, though, it means you are up and running.

£200 in the prize pot.

-APPLAUSE

-Thank you.

Here comes your next one.

I'm not a great horse racing fan.

I know Party Politics won the Grand National.

That's not a lot of help.

OK, well, hold that thought.

So, Party Politics, Ann, I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this.

Your debate starts now.

No, I do wish I'd known he was running

because I would have backed him.

Three of those years are general election years, but 1990 was also

very famous for the fall of Thatcher.

So if one's talking about memorably, I'm trying to link it to a

party but, well, you know, any of them will do.

-I... I...

-'87 seems a long time ago for something...

I remember hearing Party Politics from the commentator

-shouting the name.

-Do you?

-OK.

-Right.

But whether it's a clip I've seen or whatever,

but '87 does seem a long time ago.

Yeah, so I think 1997 is too recent.

I mean, this is so kind of vague but I sort of agree that '87 is a bit

too early, and I think that '97 is a bit too recent,

so I'd be going between 1990 and 1992.

Do we know when, within the year,

the Grand National is run and when the election would have been?

-It is always run March, isn't it?

-And what about the election?

-I know the election, I think you will find, was May/June.

-Hmm.

-'90 would be...

-'90 was the fall of Thatcher.

The most memorable sort of political year because of the fall of

-Thatcher, would you say?

-But that didn't happen until November,

and your interesting question is the Grand National would have been

in March, and nobody knew it was going to happen in November,

the fall of Thatcher, nobody knew it.

Why was it memorable? Did he do something else in the race

that was memorable?

Ran faster than the other horses.

-Thank you(!)

-Yeah.

Is that memorable? For the horse, yeah.

With absolute confidence and conviction,

we're going to go with 1990...

two.

You little tease there, Rick, I see what you did there!

So, they've plumped for '92.

Right, well, I can remember refereeing a football match in the

pouring rain on Grand National day and I'm pretty sure that that was

when Party Politics won,

but when that was, I've no idea, but it would rule out 1987.

So, on that basis, 1992.

With the panel.

Going for 1992 for the year that Party Politics won the National.

Correct answer is...

It was! 1992.

Thank you, Rav. Thank you.

What are you thanking these people for, Dave?

Cos we got it right, Patrick!

They've got three out of three - it's terrific.

Ridden by Carl Llewellyn, the great Carl Llewellyn,

Party Politics beat Romany King by 2.5 lengths in April 1992,

just days before John Major's general election success

in the 1992 general election.

-Well played, Dave. It means your prize pot is up to £400.

-Lucky...

Thank you. APPLAUSE

One more question to go on this round - here it comes.

I've got a feeling that, because Vasco Da Gama was the first person

to circumnavigate the world, that he might predate Sir Walter Raleigh.

My inkling is towards Marco Polo

but, again, I'm far from 100% certain.

Don't worry - our panel will talk this through.

They'll know nothing about this and they'll choose the right answer.

Panel, your debate starts now.

What have we got, then? Anyone... Anyone want to start us off?

So, Christopher Columbus - was he the USA?

Is that what he discovered?

-He discovered America.

-Yes. Yes.

So, do we have a rough time when that would have happened?

-1492?

-What?

-As early as that?

-It wasn't that early, surely?

-1492?

-What about Marco Polo?

He's Venetian.

OK.

And I think he's pretty early.

Do we know what he discovered?

-I think he's sort of roaming around in the Far East, isn't he?

-OK.

-Definitely before Raleigh's time.

-Do we know what he discovered or did?

-Sir Walter Raleigh?

-Was he bringing back potatoes?

He was bringing back potatoes and tobacco

and things of that nature, yeah.

And God bless him for it!

-Yes, I agree.

-Thank you, Walter.

"Vasso" Da Gama?

He's the one I'm much less certain about.

Vasco Da Gama is...

Well, Dave said that he was the first person

-to circumnavigate the globe.

-I don't think he did.

-I didn't know that, but it sounds...

-I don't think he did.

-Sounds good.

And I think that would have been the same sort of time as Columbus.

-I'm going to go with Marco Polo, I think.

-As the first?

This is probably the most confident we've been - so beware, Dave.

We would go for Marco Polo.

Confidence from the panel.

Indeed.

I'm not so sure Vasco Da Gama was the first person to circumnavigate

-the globe now...

-Dave!

-It might have been Ferdinand Magellan.

But Vasco Da Gama was about that sort of time.

So, yeah, Marco Polo.

I think we're all agreed.

-Yeah.

-You've gone for Marco Polo.

For £200, was Marco Polo born first?

-He was!

-Well done.

Very nice work, Dave.

Marco Polo was born in Venice around the year 1254.

Christopher Columbus was born in Genoa in 1451.

In fourteen hundred and ninety two, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.

-Oh!

-Well done.

-Ah!

-That's impressive!

-That's impressive.

-Well done.

Vasco Da Gama was born in 1469 in Portugal

and played centre of midfield for Benfica.

Sir Walter Raleigh was born in the 1550s.

So, er, very well played, panel. Very well done.

-Well done.

-Well worked out, Dave.

It means at the end of Round One, your prize pot is up to £600.

-Brilliant.

-Thanks very much, guys.

So, Dave, how do you think the panel's faring so far?

Yeah, I think they're doing well.

They've got a good amount of intuition in there as well.

That's a very, very polite way of saying

"not much knowledge at all but quite a bit of luck".

OK, let's play Round Two.

OK, Dave, Round Two is our picture round.

We need you to place three pictures in the correct order.

Three questions in this round, £300 for each correct answer.

A possible £900 up for grabs.

Here comes your first picture question.

I've never, ever seen a Star Wars film.

I know nothing about it at all

but I believe Yoda is a character from Star Wars.

What you need is someone who may have been a teenager

around this time, in his bedroom, watching these films...

Not looking at anybody in particular, Rick.

Do you think I'm 45, Patrick?!

Let's see if our panel can sort this out for you.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Ann, have you any ideas on this one?

Well, I've seen all three.

-OK.

-Did you see them in chronological order?

-No, I didn't.

-Oh, that would've been really helpful.

I remember Star Wars being very big at the end of the '70s

and the reason I remember that was I fought the '79 election and I was

taken by a friend to see The Empire Strikes Back afterwards.

ET I remember coming out.

I was a little kid and that was in 1982.

-Oh, just bang on?

-Well done.

-Yeah, definitely.

-Well done.

-Definitely.

-OK, so that's interesting.

-And Gremlins was...

-Gremlins,

-I watched at the cinema. It was later.

-A couple of years later.

Well, it was also... Stephen Spielberg directed both

and this was his next big one and that was in '84.

-No, I think that Robert Zemeckis directed Gremlins.

-Oh, did he?

-Yeah.

-Not that that's relevant.

-But I do think the date is '84.

In which case, our real question is,

did this chap come in any of the prequels to

Return Of The Jedi? I can't see him in Star Wars at all.

I don't think he's in Star Wars, and I'm pretty...

-He's not in Empire Strikes Back, is he?

-Empire Strikes Back, no.

I don't think he is, and if that was in '83,

which I've got a feeling Return Of The Jedi was,

-it would go right bang in the middle.

-One, two, three.

So we think that, don't we?

The only thing is that I don't know when Return Of The Jedi came out.

Was there a four-year gap between Empire Strikes Back

-and Return Of The Jedi?

-It's pretty long, isn't it?

It is quite long.

I was still living at home

-when the Return Of The Jedi came out...

-Oh!

..because I went to see it '81-ish.

-Oh!

-OK.

I mean, it would make sense to have...

-It would be a long gap.

-..two-year, two-year, gaps.

-So do you want to

-swap them round?

-So maybe we... Shall we swap?

-Yeah, let's swap.

-OK.

That covers us just in case he does pop up in one of the earlier ones.

-Yeah. Agreed.

-Shall we do that?

-OK.

-Yeah, let's do that.

-OK.

-Now, I've got the earliest, right?

Yes. So Yoda, ET, Gremlins

is the order that we'd like to go for.

So, Dave, this is a first.

The panel bringing genuine knowledge to this question.

-Faulty memories, probably.

-What do you make of all this?

Well, first of all, my wife will be shouting at the TV screen,

saying the answer to this cos she loves all three of those films.

Let's go with that order of Yoda, ET and Gremlins.

OK, you're going with the panel.

You believe Yoda was the one that appeared in a feature film first,

then ET and then Gremlins.

For £300, is that the correct order?

-It is!

-Oh!

-Yes!

-Well done, panel.

-Excellent.

-Yeah, we worked that out -

-we didn't even guess.

-Very pleased with that.

-Very good last-minute swap.

-Yeah.

-Very good last-minute swap there.

-Excellent.

-Yoda first appeared

-in the Star Wars film The Empire Strikes Back...

-Ooh!

-..in 1980.

So you were right to cover your bets by swapping that back.

ET - 1982, Rav. Very well remembered.

And then Gremlins from 1984.

-Good childhood knowledge there.

-Spot-on.

-That's fantastic.

-You never thought then...

-Crop up all those years later!

..that it would ever win Dave £300.

-But it has!

-Brilliant.

Very well done, Dave.

It means you're up to £900.

Thank you. Thank you, panel.

Here comes your next picture question.

Right, OK. Emeli Sande probably won round about 2012 -

she did the big Olympics show then.

Adele - did she win when she had 19 or 21?

And Ellie Goulding, little bit later, I would think.

That's my initial thoughts.

OK, panel, let's see if we can sort this out. Your debate starts now.

THEY CHUCKLE

-I've only ever heard of one of them...

-Go on.

-..and that's Adele.

-OK.

-I haven't a clue who these people are so, Dave,

-whatever I say, do the opposite.

-Rick, I'm sorry, this is...

-You're going to have to...

-Yeah, it's all down to you.

-Come on.

-I think I've met them all, actually.

-Do you know about the Brits?

Cos we've got here the British female solo artist,

-as opposed to best album or something like that.

-Yeah.

I suspect that our knowledge of the winners of Brit Awards is not

-detailed enough.

-We're not going to be good.

We're going to be like, "Oh, was that best album?"

So, the one thing that I definitely agreed with was...

Emeli Sande had a huge year in 2012 and she was everywhere...

-Yeah. OK.

-..to the point of, "Oh, you're here AGAIN, are you?"

19 had come out before that...

-Yeah.

-..I think. But did she win?

-She must have won an award, surely.

-I think she will have done.

-Yeah.

-And that would have been about 2-10, 2-11, something like that,

-I think, for 19.

-Yeah, so I would probably put Adele...

-First.

-..before Emeli Sande.

-That's going to be before Ellie Goulding.

-It's got to be before.

-Ellie Goulding.

Ellie Goulding's been around for a while but it kind of really

kicked off for her in the last few years, didn't it?

-Yeah.

-Ann's just head in hands here.

I remember the Beatles, if that's any use.

Oh, the Beatles were definitely... Have you got a Beatles card?

They were definitely the earliest.

So which one's...?

-So it's...

-This is newest.

Adele. Yeah.

-This is the first?

-This is the order we go for -

Adele first, Emeli Sande,

Ellie Goulding. That's our order.

That be their order, Dave.

Been listening to what the panel are saying.

Like the arguments that they've put forward, so I'm going to stick with

my original thought and what the panel have said, as well,

of Adele, Emeli Sande and Ellie Goulding.

Good pop knowledge from yourself, Dave, I have to say.

For £300, is that the correct order?

It IS the correct order!

-Well done. Well done.

-So, well done.

Well played, Dave. Adele first won in 2012 and then again in 2016.

Emeli Sande first won in 2013 - you were right, guys -

and Ellie Goulding not till 2014.

Well played. Well done, Dave.

It means you're now up to £1,200.

Wow! Thank you.

Here comes the final picture question.

From the heaviest to the lightest.

No idea again.

I'll go the way it's up on the screen as an initial thought.

OK, panel, Dave going for the order

in which it sits - liver, spleen,

and then a pair of lungs.

What do you make of this? Your debate starts now.

I tend to agree.

I think the liver is the heaviest.

Imagining yourself holding liver that you buy at the butcher's -

it's actually quite heavy.

I've never bought human liver, is the only thing.

No, nor have I, but you understand entirely what I'm saying.

It's lovely with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

The liver's solid, but the lungs -

they are deceptively large

when they're stretched out, because lungs can

actually cover a tennis court.

How do you know that?

When I was watching ET and Gremlins...

-Yeah.

-..years ago...

I dissected some lungs.

I was reading some fact books at the time.

I still say lungs are the lightest but I am happy enough to...

To be overruled.

-Yeah, I...

-Have you ever said that in your life, Ann?

Very occasionally!

I think the spleen is...

small. I mean, it is going to be an issue. We just kind of...

I guess that's the thing, isn't it? You just close your eyes

and imagine cradling a spleen.

It's not that heavy.

-It's not that heavy. Now do it...

-Cradle a pair of lungs.

-Lungs.

Similar weight - that's not helping.

-Let's do a little swap here.

-OK. Are we happy with that?

-Yeah, OK,

so the order we'll go for is liver heaviest, then the lungs,

then the spleen. That is our order.

OK, Dave, it looked like there was some science being added to this

until Rick started to weigh an imaginary spleen.

These guys have done so well so far.

By the law of averages, I think we may be due a fall on this one.

So I'm going to put the spleen back in the middle

and the lungs at the end.

-I think you're right.

-Oh, OK!

You're going against the panel.

I'm going against them.

OK, your original thought -

liver, then the spleen, then the pair of lungs,

from the heaviest to the lightest.

For £300, is that the correct order?

Oh!

It's the wrong order, Dave.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

I bet they're right. I bet they're right.

-Oh!

-The panel were right.

-Guys!

Should have gone with the panel there.

The liver weighs roughly 1,560 grams.

-The lungs together...

-Yeah, that's right.

..weigh approximately 1,300 grams.

-Yeah.

-The spleen - 175 grams.

-Tiny. Absolutely tiny.

-Much, much lighter.

-Dave, nothing for that question.

-Not that time.

-You're still doing well, though.

At the end of Round Two, you're up to £1,200.

Lovely. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Sorry about that.

So, how's the panel faring?

Still proving useful?

100% record, still, they've got.

I need to listen to other people, don't I?

Well done. You're up to £1,200.

£1,500 still up for grabs.

Let's play Round Three.

Dave, in Round Three you'll face questions that contain

three statements about a person, a place or a thing.

Only one of them is true.

We need you to find that true statement.

Three questions in this round, £500 for each correct answer.

A possible 1,500 quid that you can add to the prize pot.

Here comes your first one.

I think that I've read somewhere

that a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is considered lucky.

OK, panel, Dave thinks he may have read this.

Let's see if you can keep your lucky run going.

Your debate starts now.

Anybody been to Japan?

I've just got back from Japan on my honeymoon.

Did you slurp in a restaurant?

Just a bit, Ann!

They couldn't stop me! So I actually think that slurping in restaurants

is, on the contrary, encouraged.

-I believe so.

-And it's not impolite at all.

And you do it with ramen, cos it's so hot

-and you need to get some air in...

-OK, I'd go with that.

..to stop you burning your mouth.

And you noticed people doing it? No-one was arrested?

Oh, loads of it. No-one got arrested that I saw.

OK. Did you see any babies crying next to a sumo wrestler?

-I

-made a baby cry and I felt like I had quite a good day afterwards.

I've not heard that but it's the kind of thing that sounds plausible.

-Yeah.

-In kind of....

-Yeah.

-In that culture.

And we've got the karaoke now.

Where it says "hear me sing", that doesn't jump out.

I don't think that's quite right.

-Or is it?

-Roots and stems?

-I don't speak any Japanese.

-Anything?

-I can't remember what it means but I don't think it's

"hear me sing" - it's something quite...

That's what I'm thinking.

It's sort of quite weirdly poetic.

I'm assuming you've all sung karaoke?

-Don't be daft!

-Yeah.

You must've done a little karaoke!

I'm tone deaf!

That's not a problem.

-It would be if you had me trying it.

-It's more fun.

-Yeah.

-Oh. Well, we know what we're doing afterwards, Ann!

-We are not!

-I think it's the first.

-Yes.

Our answer would be that a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is lucky.

So, on the basis that the panel have a 100% record,

based purely on luck, there must be children all the way from the studio

to the house in tears today.

I'm in agreement with the panel. I'm sure it's A, the sumo wrestler.

OK, it was your first thought - you thought you read that somewhere.

In Japan, a sumo wrestler making a baby cry is considered lucky.

For £500, is that true?

-It is!

-Well done, guys.

It is indeed. It is

part of an annual festival that has been held for over 400 years.

Sumo wrestlers make loud noises and faces at babies

to get those babies to start crying.

Karaoke is "empty orchestra".

-Oh!

-Ah!

It is actually polite to slurp noodles in restaurants -

it shows that you have enjoyed the meal.

Very well done. It means you're up to £1,700.

Brilliant. Thank you.

Another £500 up for grabs for this. Here it comes.

Walking on the moon was late '60s, early '70s.

Not sure of the split on that one.

Can't think why they'd pay thousands of dollars for volunteers

to lie in bed for weeks, so that's probably a good reason

for the Americans to decide to do it,

and I've no idea what NASA'S logo looks like.

So no help to you guys at all on that one, I'm afraid.

I mean, don't worry.

They've all made babies cry on the way to the studio -

let's see if they can keep their lucky streak going.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-Moon landing...

-Well, the moon walk was

-right at the end of the '60s - '69.

-The moon landing...?

-Yes.

-..was '69.

And that was the first walk.

-Correct.

-That was only two people.

-At that time.

-Yeah.

-But you're not going to have another one

within a year, which would be the end of the '60s?

You're certainly not going to have lots within a year,

because this is more than at any other time.

Yes, any other decade, so the '70s surely would have more than trying

-to get more people walking in 1969.

-I think I read somewhere -

I can't remember - something like 16 men have actually walked

-on the moon. Well, that didn't all happen in '69.

-The middle one...

-..I think is plausible, because...

-I do.

..they'd be looking to study the effects of being...

-In one position for a long time, yeah.

-..stationary and not moving,

-what the body does.

-That could make sense.

-That makes sense.

-I think that makes a lot of sense.

-Which brings us on to

-what I presume is Latin.

-It is Latin.

-Anyone going to have a...

I'm going to have a guess and then Ann's going to tell me whether I'm

-right.

-Go on, go on.

-I think that probably means

-"to infinity and beyond".

-Yes.

-Which is from Toy Story.

-Well done.

-So I don't think...

-If you get that, that'll be amazing.

I think it's lying in bed.

OK, that would be brilliant, yeah.

I really do. I mean, it's the effects of immobility.

When you go into space, you're immobile for a very long time.

And they'll obviously want to test on volunteers -

that'd be perfect. I think the middle one.

Especially if you're sending people on long journeys,

they're going to be in stasis. You need to study that stuff.

This is the most confident I've been.

I like the sound of that.

Make of that what you will, Dave.

I think I've been sufficiently appealed to by the middle one.

-We will go...

-Yeah.

-..with the middle answer.

We think that NASA pay thousands of dollars

to people to lie in bed and study them.

-What do you make of that, Dave?

-I'm going to go with the panel

and they're going to pay volunteers to lie in bed,

-cos it's a great job.

-It would be a great job, I have to say.

You're going for B, you're agreeing with the panel.

For £500, the correct statement is...

-It's B!

-Yes. Well done.

It is B. Very well done.

They are called bed-rest studies.

The purpose of the study is exactly what you said,

to research the microgravity on the human body.

There were two manned moon landings in the 1960s,

with four astronauts walking on the moon. But in the 1970s,

from 1970 to 1972, there were four moon landings,

with eight people walking on the moon, 12 in total.

"Ad infinitum et ultra" is "to infinity and beyond",

and it is the catchphrase of Buzz Lightyear in the Toy Story films.

Very well done, Rick.

I believe it is a 100% record from the panel.

Another £500 for you.

-Fantastic.

-You are up to £2,200.

Thanks very much, guys.

Brilliant.

OK, one more question to go in this round.

Another £500 up for grabs.

Here we go.

A 100% record from our panel so far. They'll sort this out no problems.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, I think you can rule out publishing more novels

than Mary Shelley because he was a poet.

-Yeah.

-Now, you know, unless he published, too,

and I don't think he did - he was a poet. He died very young.

-Right.

-And he was writing at the same time as Wordsworth, Coleridge,

the Romance Poets, as they were called.

I've got a feeling he was the youngest of them.

It's a feeling.

-OK.

-But it's quite a strong one.

-OK.

-And then Napoleon...

-What his height was, I've no idea.

Well, Napoleon, I believe, was 5'4".

-But was Keats short?

-Well, that's very, very short -

-to be shorter than 5'4". Do you think?

-Back in the day, though,

it was more in vogue to be short.

Well, not a question of in vogue. It was just the way we were developing!

I was joking, Ann! It's OK.

-It's OK.

-You would've had a terrible time!

If I could direct height to vogue, I would be rather more than I am.

So we're kind of erring towards shorter than Napoleon, aren't we?

-I think. Just on the basis...

-I know nothing to rule it out.

-Yeah.

-I know nothing to rule that out.

I would go with him being shorter than Napoleon.

By a process of elimination, I'd arrive at that.

-Yeah.

-OK, so our answer is "shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte".

What do you make of that, Dave?

Process of elimination and hoping that the 100% record continues,

I'll go with the panel and go for C, shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte.

You're going with the panel.

Was John Keats shorter than Napoleon Bonaparte, for £500?

-He was!

-Fantastic!

-What a result!

-Well done, Ann.

-I think that was mainly you.

-That was just elimination.

I mean, well done, panel.

What can we say?

-Dream team.

-Dream team. You either know it or you don't, really.

-That's the thing.

-I don't think a panel has ever gone through

one of these shows with a 100% record, so hats off there.

Keats is reported to have been just over five feet tall.

Napoleon's height was historically given as 5'2"

but modern historians estimate that his height may have been

much greater, possibly 5'6".

Huge man. Dave, very well played.

At the end of Round Three, your prize pot is up to £2,700.

-Brilliant.

-Well done.

-Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you.

So, only one question between you and that money.

If you manage to answer our Final Debate question correctly,

any plans for the cash?

Yeah, I think we'd like to do another trip,

possibly up to the fjords and see the northern lights, as well, on a cruise.

Dave, there is only one question between you and that £2,700.

It is, of course, the Final Debate question

but you are not on your own.

You will choose one of the 100% club here to help you in the debate.

So, based on their magnificent performance today,

who will be joining you in The Final Debate?

Will you play party politics with Ann?

Will you go to infinity and beyond with Rick?

Or will it be our own petit chou-fleur? Will it be Rav?

Well, they've all done so tremendously well,

it's really difficult. But I'm going to go with Rick.

OK, Rick, please join us as we play The Final Debate.

OK, Rick, Dave has chosen you.

I mean, he could have chosen anyone from the 100% club...

-Uh-huh.

-..but he has put his faith in you.

Yeah. I mean, I hope your faith hasn't been misplaced, Dave.

-I'm sure it hasn't.

-We just need to ride this lucky wave,

get you that money, get you to the fjords.

Dave, it is the Final Debate question so we're going to give you

two choices. Have a look at this.

Tell me what you fancy.

-Hmm.

-Depends which sport it is, doesn't it?

It does. Which sport is it, Patrick?

Well, funny you should mention...

-If it's football, hurrah.

-If it's football, we're in business.

I mean, obviously, obviously, up to you but I would probably go sport.

-What's your TV like?

-Yeah.

Not bad.

But I don't know. If it's Downton Abbey, then we've had it.

-Shall we go sport?

-Let's go sport.

We'll go sport, please.

-You're going for sport.

-Yeah.

45 seconds on the clock, £2,700 up for grabs, six possible answers.

You know we need three correct answers.

Yeah.

Here we go on sport.

Here's your Final Debate question.

Your time starts now.

Bears, Dolphins, Seahawks.

-Oh, you're straight in with that?

-That's my thoughts, yeah.

-I reckon... I reckon they've done that.

-Dave, I love it.

I was going to say Dolphins,

pretty sure, because in Ace Ventura there's a guy who's won it and...

-Bears...

-William Perry, the Refrigerator.

The Re... The Refrigerator.

Don't know what you're talking about, but fine.

-Yeah. He was...

-He was the massive...

The massive fella, yeah.

-20 seconds.

-And you think Seahawks?

I think the Seahawks, yeah.

I mean, I've... I'm not an American football fan

but I'd definitely go with Bears and Dolphins and I think...

-I think...

-If you're...

-It's the one that jumps out at me

-in front of the others.

-If the hawk is jumping,

-pick the hawk - that's my motto.

-Panthers are quite new. Right.

OK, Dave, three answers.

Chicago Bears.

Miami Dolphins.

Seattle Seahawks.

Here we go.

For £2,700, the first team you gave me was the Chicago Bears.

Have the Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl?

They have.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

Well played. Chicago Bears won the Super Bowl in '86

and William Perry, the Refrigerator, played on that team.

Next, to keep you in the game, for £2,700,

have the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl?

They have!

-Well done.

-They won in '72 and '73,

which brings us to the Seattle Seahawks.

Now, this was the one you were least sure of.

-Yeah, that's right.

-Any other names up there?

Er...I would think the other possible one is the Eagles, but...

You think maybe the Eagles but you've gone for the Seahawks.

For £2,700...

..have the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl?

Yes!

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

Come here, you! Come on!

-Well done, mate.

-Well played.

-Thank you.

The Seahawks first won the Super Bowl in 2014.

Very well played. Very well played, panel. Well done, Dave.

-You leave today with £2,700.

-Thank you.

Thank you.

That is it for Debatable.

Just enough time for me to thank our fantastic panel -

to Rick Edwards, to Ann Widdecombe and to Rav Wilding.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

I do hope you've enjoyed watching. We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.