Episode 25 Debatable

Hello and welcome to Debatable, where today one player

must answer a series of tricky questions

to try to walk away with a jackpot of over £3,000.

But they are not on their own.

As always, they will have a panel of celebrities

debating their way to the answers.

Will they be able to talk the talk?

That's Debatable. Let's meet them.

Chatting their way to the answers today,

we have broadcaster Suzi Perry,

we've got entrepreneur Peter Jones,

and we have actor Nitin Ganatra.

APPLAUSE

Yes, it is a good panel, it is a solid panel,

it is an overly educated panel, Peter Jones, I believe.

-I wouldn't say that!

-One of those statements is definitely not true.

Well, I mean, Nitin, you went to Bristol University.

-I did indeed.

-Yeah.

-Studying...?

-Studied film and television and drama.

Studying drama, it means that even if you don't know the answer today,

you will be able to project an authority.

Exactly. I will bluff my way through it.

Now, Peter, you recently did an A-level. Is that true?

Yeah, I was a late starter, educationally.

I took an A-level at 45.

It was business studies as well.

Yeah, but there's a back story to this, isn't there?

You guys on Dragons' Den

kept dismissing business studies as a joke.

I did a business studies degree so I know that it actually is.

LAUGHTER

I kept on saying that business studies is quite easy

and the Sun said, "OK, we will challenge you, then.

"Can you take an A-level online and we will see what grade you get?"

I decided to take the challenge up and have a go.

-And?

-I got an A*.

-A*!

-Of course you did! APPLAUSE

Which brings us to Suzi, then.

What did you get in your business studies, Suzi?

I got, you know, not an A*.

A first, I bet.

I did OK.

And you ended up flying around the world

with one of the most glamorous jobs on the planet?

Somebody had to do it.

OK, that is today's panel.

Let's meet today's contestant.

It is Jonathan from Milton Keynes.

-Jonathan.

-Hi, Patrick.

-How are you doing?

-I'm good, thank you very much.

-Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Yeah, I'm a doctor's receptionist and if I look a bit tired today,

it's because our dogs have been keeping us up all night.

I've got a French bulldog with a snoring problem,

we have to wear earplugs in bed every night

because the snoring is so bad.

Who else lives with you and your dog?

My partner. We recently just got married in Las Vegas.

-Come on! There you go!

-Thank you very much.

-Well done.

So, was it a traditional church service in Vegas?

No, we got married by Elvis. It was brilliant!

It was the best seven minutes of my life.

LAUGHTER

It doesn't get any better, you know. It's all downhill from now on!

You're about to have the best 45 minutes of your life, Jonathan.

-Yeah.

-What do you make of today's panel?

Yeah, I think there's a bit of everything there today.

Oh, there is a bit of everything there. There definitely is.

I'm certainly interested in Peter

because I think he will be quite strong with his opinions.

I think he will have good knowledge of business and everything.

To be honest, Peter is just delighted

that he's just come on a show

where somebody else has to give the money away.

-Absolutely!

-You're going to have to pay close attention to our panel

because you can only choose one of these fine people

-to help you in the final debate.

-OK.

-Ready to play?

-Yeah, ready to play.

Here we go. Let's play Round One.

Jonathan, this round is multiple choice,

you will have four possible answers in each question.

Only one of them is correct.

There are four questions in this round,

£200 for each correct answer.

-A possible 800 quid for your prize pot.

-Cool.

-Yep.

-Ready to go?

-Yep, definitely.

-Best of luck.

-Thank you.

-Let's get cracking.

Right, I think there's two things

that definitely jump out at me straightaway,

but I'd like to definitely ask the panel and see what they think.

I think we would all like to do that, Jonathan.

Let's not give them any help.

Don't look at me like that!

Your debate starts now.

Go on.

I'm just trying to remember what Wi-Fi stood for

and it's wireless...something.

Doesn't Wi-Fi come from hi-fi?

Yeah, I think so.

Er...

Can we dismiss hashtag

because although it has become a technological term,

it's not really, is it?

No. It was a made-up term, wasn't it?

So it wouldn't relate to any previous king.

-Perhaps we can remove that.

-The one that sings louder to me is Wiki

because of Wikipedia, WikiLeaks, Wiki...

I don't know what wiki means, but it's...

-Wiki the Viking, do you remember that?

-Wiki the Viking!

I know we're laughing,

but that was the cartoon when we were growing up, wasn't it?

In Scandinavian mythology, you've got all the Norse gods,

you've got Thor, Loki, Wiki...

Jimmy Wales, the guy behind Wikipedia, though, I know him and...

-Of course you do, Peter!

-I remember the story and I'm pretty sure

that didn't come from a Scandinavian King.

Bluetooth. I think Bluetooth wasn't a real name, it was a nickname.

You know how people get given nicknames because of eccentric...

King of so-and-so, one-eyed King.

Did the king have a blue tooth?

I'm just thinking it's a nickname.

Go with Wiki. Your instinct was Wiki.

-Well, it is, but...

-I feel a bit Wiki about it.

You liked all the "kis".

Yeah, I liked the "ki" bit.

Well, let's go with Wiki, then. So, we think that the answer is Wiki.

So, Jonathan, the panel have gone with Wiki, but what do you think?

When you look at them, Wi-Fi, hashtag and Bluetooth

don't sound like they would be a medieval king.

I think it is Wiki.

-You're going with the panel?

-Yeah, I'll trust the panel on this one.

OK, you're trusting the panel.

You're going with Wiki for £200 to get you off the mark.

Correct answer is...

-Bluetooth!

-Oh, no!

-It is Bluetooth.

SUZI SIGHS

Oh!

It is said to be named after the 10th-century King Harald I

who was also known as Bluetooth.

The rumour is he had a bad tooth.

Having got a dentist in my family,

when you knock your tooth and it discolours, it can go blue.

-Why are you saying this now?!

-It's too late! Why tell us now?

Bluetooth was credited with uniting Denmark and Norway,

just as Bluetooth technology unites people with their devices.

Jonathan, no money there,

but there's loads of time to get some cash on the board.

-Here comes your second question.

-Yep.

I'm feeling confident about this one.

Not because I know the answer, but just because I think the panel

probably eat at nice restaurants when they go on holiday,

so I think one of them will definitely know the answer.

You have no idea!

Peter Jones is a fiend for a Nando's!

Panel, your debate starts now.

Well, Modena, definitely.

-Ferrari...

-Italy, yeah. And it's obviously an Italian name.

Francescana, it sounds very Italian, but then you get all these...

A lot of Italians - universal, international dish.

Also, Osteria is Italian.

-It is.

-And I think it's Italian for either, like...

-House or...

-..a place to eat or something.

-Yeah, an eating house.

-So, it's an eating house.

There's a big giveaway there, linking it to Modena.

I can't see Francescana in Copenhagen.

What about Vienna?

I kind of ruled that out straightaway

because it's not Italian.

Do you think that the strange one in there is Bilbao?

-Yeah.

-It's Spain.

-It would be weird

to call the restaurant an Italian name in Spain, wouldn't it?

Yeah, but because these are Latin-based countries,

-whether it be...

-Italy or Spain.

..Italy or Brazil or Portugal,

these have all got their root in Latin.

So Francescana could be a Spanish name as well.

My money would be on Modena purely because of the Italian link.

The Italian link.

I think that's the logical...

-It's logical, yeah?

-..answer to go with.

But I...I really...

-Shall we go with that?

-Yeah, let's go with that.

We believe that Osteria Francescana is located in Modena.

So, Jonathan, do you agree?

As soon as you said the question, my gut instinct was to say Vienna.

I'm tempted not to give the celebrities the benefit of the doubt

because of the last question.

You are harsh, Jonathan! LAUGHTER

-I don't blame you.

-Probably fair.

-What are you trying to say?

I think I will trust them on this one,

because I think they've got this one in the bag.

-I'm going to go with Modena.

-Oh, no!

-Yeah.

OK, so, you are going for Modena.

Is Osteria Francescana in Modena?

-Yes!

-It is!

-Well done!

-Well done.

-The relief from the panel!

-Phew!

-Well done, Jonathan.

-Thank you. My faith is restored now.

An osteria is the Italian equivalent of a bistro.

All of that means, Jonathan, well played.

You were right to go with the panel. You are up and running - £200.

Cool!

Let's see if we can keep it going.

Here is question three.

Can you see what we've done here, Jonathan?

-I haven't got a clue.

-Do you want to see what the panel thinks on this?

Yes, please. Thank you.

OK, panel. I'm sure they will sort this out very quickly for us.

Your debate starts now.

We're going to look stupid, whatever we say here, aren't we?

Wow, OK. I'm kicking myself, you know,

cos my son was really into dinosaurs - flash cards, everything.

He had names of all sorts of raptors.

I should have paid more attention.

Well, Mickeyraptor doesn't sound...

Mickey sounds odd, because that is a mouse.

But you know what a raptor is, right?

-It wouldn't be a mouse raptor, would it?

-No.

Raptors are... Raptors are particular...

They've got these claws and they're fast sprinters, all raptors.

They are highly intelligent,

they have claws and they sprint very fast and hunt in a pack.

Now, whether Disney knew this when he drew these cartoons...

Because nobody...

I still, to this day, don't know what kind of animal Goofy is.

-Isn't he a dog?

-No, I don't think he is.

He's got these two big teeth.

That... That's Pluto.

Yeah, what is Goofy?

-What is Goofy?

-But he is goofy, isn't he?

-I thought he was a horse.

That's why he's call Goofy, because he's a bit of a...

..type. Obviously, Bambi is a deer,

has four legs. Let's imagine what these would look like.

So a Dumboraptor would have large ears...

Don't know any dinosaurs with large ears.

There is no elephant raptor, is there?

-Definitely not.

-I don't think so.

-And there is no mouse raptor.

-No.

-But I don't know, what is Goofy?

We don't know what it is, but that leaves us with the Bambiraptor.

I think we've worked this out.

OK.

We think the official name of a species of dinosaur

is a Bambiraptor.

So, Jonathan, any of that make any sense?

No, not really. I think I will definitely trust the panel again.

I like their way of getting to the answer.

I think they might have just been so random that it might be right.

So I think I'm going to go for Bambiraptor.

Even they don't like the way that they get to the answer,

-let's be clear.

-No!

-You're going to go with the panel?

-Yes, I'm going to go with the panel.

OK, you're going with the panel.

Is Bambiraptor an official species of dinosaur?

£200. The correct answer is...

-Yes! Brilliant!

-That's brilliant.

The species of dinosaur was named after the Disney movies.

-Oh!

-So, the name was given retrospectively

-because it was a little tiny dinosaur.

-Oh, right.

Only three feet from its nose to the tip of its tail.

Goofy is a dog.

-No!

-Thank you!

-Really?

-Goofy is a dog.

-He doesn't look anything like a dog.

-I know!

I thought he was a horse or a donkey or something.

Donkey?!

-He's got a tail!

-So has a dog!

I know, I know. But he just... doesn't look like a dog.

To be fair, Goofy is a dog

that walks on his hind legs and drives a car.

-I rest my case.

-You rest your case.

OK. Well done, Jonathan, though, right to go with the panel,

-you're up to £400.

-Brilliant.

OK, here comes your next question.

I think there are a couple possibilities

-that I think it could be.

-Yes?

-But as always, I am not 100% sure,

and I am hoping that the panel are going to enlighten me

and tell me what the answer is.

If you are drawn to one of those at the moment,

-would it be...?

-I think something you play with your fingers,

so possibly the violin.

OK, panel. Let's see if you can sort this out.

Your debate starts now.

I used to play the oboe when I was at school.

Did you tune?

No, you don't tune oboe, do you?

It's ready... Put your reed in and you're ready to go.

So that's a good point.

It's an instrument that you don't have to tune.

Do you tune a violin?

Yes, you must do, because it's a stringed instrument.

-Yes, you have to tune a violin.

-It's like a guitar.

-A flute?

-A trombone, you slide...

You find the note.

-Yes.

-So... So that's...

I would go either oboe or flute.

But what about the flute, though?

When you... I've never played the flute, but when you play a flute,

-when you blow...

-Does it make a different sound?

No, I would have thought that it's a pure...

That's a pure sound, isn't it?

Flute feels like a more important instrument than an oboe.

Oboe just sounds a bit stupid.

It does. So would you tune to a flute or tune to an oboe, then?

Let's try flute. I'm just trying to think

of any orchestra I've been in front of where they're tuning up.

-It's flute or oboe, isn't it, so let's go flute.

-Let's go flute.

We think that the instrument

that a symphony orchestra will tune to is a flute.

OK, Jonathan.

Suzy used to play the oboe but wasn't quite sure.

See, I thought it was violin,

but then I heard the discussion and I don't think it is violin now.

I kind of liked it when it was between oboe and flute.

I liked Suzy's argument

that the flute was a more important instrument

-so I think I'm going to go for flute. Let's do this.

-OK.

Going with the panel. Saying flute.

£200, is that the correct answer?

-Oh, no!

-It was the oboe.

It was oboe!

Suzi Perry!

-You had it.

-Come on!

Oh, we went round the houses too much with that one, didn't we?

You had it and then you went wrong.

I was hoping you would come back to it.

The internationally agreed standard for tuning musical instruments

is to the note A above middle C.

So, Jonathan, nothing for that.

It means the total banked at the end of Round One is £400.

Brilliant. Thank you.

Keep a close eye on them, because you can, of course,

-only choose one in the final debate today.

-OK.

Let's see how they cope with pictures, it's time for Round Two.

OK, Jonathan, Round Two is our picture round.

You must place three pictures in the correct order.

Three questions in this round, £300 for a correct answer.

A possible 900 to go into the prize pot.

Here comes your first question.

My best friend is training to be a pilot at the moment in New Zealand.

-Yes?

-So if he was here, this would be a good question for him.

It would. It's just a shame he's on the other side of the world!

But I don't know, I'm willing to give this one a go.

Once again, I'd like the panel to help, give me an idea.

I'm sure they will have no problem with this one.

Panel, your debate starts now.

-OK, we are off.

-The bomber has got to be,

the Lancaster has got to be the heaviest, hasn't it?

-So it must be the slowest.

-It looks slow.

Even from the picture, it looks slow, doesn't it?

You've got the four engines. It just looks heavy, doesn't it?

-So that's the slow...

-But it's got four engines, so it has more power.

-So...

-It's also got more weight. It depends on...

-Yeah,

but because it's a bomber, it's travelling longer distances.

Spitfires, I know were created as being the most agile, speedy planes.

-Yeah.

-I wonder, if we do this,

-whether we will be on the right track?

-You see, I'm...

You're worried about the heaviest.

-I'm worried.

-You're looking at me, thinking I'm fast.

-That's what you're thinking, is it?

-I think...

-Well....

-"He's big, but I know he's quick."

"Average maximum speed," so if it's a sprint,

this one is lighter and more agile.

But that is what they were designed for.

They were designed for their versatility.

Same with the Hurricane.

But that - four engines...

Flies much higher than these two...

You like that one, don't you?

I'm just kind of...

"Average maximum speed." You could be onto something.

I don't know whether we should get too caught up in the word "average".

-Because...

-I have to deal with that every morning.

Every morning, I look in the mirror, I have to deal with that one.

But I think that one, the average speed, if it's quick...

-Yes.

-It doesn't matter if it only can fly for five minutes.

-100 feet.

I wish I had better knowledge of old planes.

No, I think that the heaviest is going to be the slowest.

-I think so.

-I still think we are right with the Spitfire mid-range,

-and I think the Hurricane...

-Fastest.

..it's a longer wingspan, it's a slightly newer plane.

-Yeah, OK.

-Shall we go with that?

Yeah, OK. OK. Let's go with that.

The panel have decided.

We are happy that the slowest is the Avro Lancaster,

next is the Supermarine Spitfire,

and the fastest is the Hawker Hurricane.

So, Jonathan, the panel, they say, are happy with this,

but what do you think?

Right, gut instinct,

I think the Hawker Hurricane is going to be the fastest.

I'm actually going to go against the panel

and swap the Supermarine Spitfire

and the Avro Lancaster.

Going to swap them round.

So, Jonathan, you're going against the panel.

You're saying Supermarine Spitfire has the lowest average maximum speed,

then the Avro Lancaster, then the Hawker Hurricane?

Yep.

OK. For £300, is that the correct order?

It's the wrong order.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

Oh! So we were all wrong!

-We were.

-I feel better now.

I feel better when we are all wrong.

Because then that's fine.

Everyone wrong on this one.

The Avro Lancaster's maximum speed, around 280 mph,

then the Hawker Hurricane, 330 mph average speed,

then the Supermarine Spitfire, average maximum speed 360 mph.

Anyway, no money added there to your prize pot.

You're still on £400.

-We were close.

-We were so close!

We still have two more picture questions to go,

here comes your second.

Already, loads of songs come into my head. I Will Always Love You.

Take That, How Deep Is Your Love?

-That's two.

-That's two!

-But they are all going round my...

I can see them, I just can't recite them!

But I can think of loads of songs, yeah.

Well, maybe what we should do is take a pause,

-you think of a few more.

-100%.

Let's see if our panel can think of a few.

-Your debate starts now.

-There's quite a few.

-A Million Love Songs.

-A Million Love Songs.

# A million love songs... #

The cover version of the Bee Gees song, How Deep Is Your Love?

Jonathan said that. That's two straightaway.

-I Will Always Love You.

-I Will Always Love You.

See, Whitney has got a lot.

-Yeah.

-What else?

I think they've both got a lot. I think Bowie tried his best to...

-Modern Love?

-Modern Love.

-But he did avoid the cliches a bit with his songs.

-Massively.

So I think he's got the least.

The thing is, Take That appeal to a younger crowd,

I think, than Whitney Houston.

-More bubble-gum pop, wasn't it?

-It was bubble-gum pop.

Whereas Whitney Houston had a wider spectrum for an audience.

But she was always singing about love and things, wasn't she?

-We are a bit like this, aren't we, at the moment?

-Yeah.

Let's bring David up here.

-I think this could be right.

-OK.

-I do.

OK. We think that the right order is

David Bowie has the least number of songs with love in it,

Take That next,

and then Whitney Houston has the most.

So, Jonathan, has that fired any more?

I definitely think David Bowie is where they have put it,

but I think it could be Take That. Whitney has had a lot of...

I think she had a love songs album as well,

I think she has done a lot of love songs

but I can't think of loads with "love" in the title.

But when I think of Take That,

I think of How Deep Is Your Love?, Love Ain't Here Any More...

And there was another one. I think it's the other way round.

I think it's David Bowie, then I think it's Whitney,

then I think it's Take That.

So I'm going to go against the panel.

You're going against the panel again?

Yeah. I don't know if that's the right thing to do.

-I've just got a feeling.

-We're about to find out.

It didn't work the last time.

Let's see if it works this time for you.

Is that the correct order?

Oh, no!

Jonathan, it's the wrong order.

Let's have a look at the correct order.

Oh, I always do the opposite at the wrong time!

Oh, sorry.

You should have gone with the panel, this time round.

David Bowie just had one hit - Modern Love.

Take That had four top 40 hits -

A Million Love Songs, Love Ain't Here Any More,

How Deep Is Your Love? and Love Love.

Whitney Houston had five with love in the title -

Saving All My Love For You,

The Greatest Love Of All,

Love Will Save The Day,

I Will Always Love You,

My Love Is Your Love.

She also had one hit with "loves" in the title.

I Want To Dance With Somebody Who Loves Me.

-Oh!

-Oh, yes.

Look, Jonathan, wrong to go against the panel that time round.

No money added to the prize pot.

Let's see if we can get back on track.

Here is your final picture question.

I haven't got a clue about this, but I think the panel might have a clue.

It doesn't matter, Jonathan.

-No pressure here, Suzi(!)

-None at all. None at all.

Panel, your debate starts now.

I might be able to help out a little bit here.

What a great question!

Have you got any thoughts, first of all, before I plough in?

I've got a funny feeling you know all about this,

but I would say Germany will all be about Schumacher, six or seven wins.

Seven for Michael Schumacher.

-Oh!

-Seven.

-Yeah, the most winning driver.

-Brazil, the only one I know will be Senna.

-Yeah. There's Senna.

There's also Nelson Piquet and also Fittipaldi.

-So three.

-So three...

-Three Brazilians.

-..to seven.

-Three different winners

with different amounts of championships,

so you've got three different there.

You're right about Michael Schumacher.

And United Kingdom's got to be up there.

It's got to be number one, hasn't it?

-Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell...

-Yeah, OK.

-Go on. Carry on.

Damon Hill, Nigel Mansell, Lewis Hamilton, Jenson Button...

Jim Clark. That's three.

No, it's ten championships, so we've won ten championships.

-So we are definitely... We should be up here, then.

-This is...

-This is the least. So it should be like that.

-Yeah...

Hang on, hang on, let me think.

-You're saying Brazil's three.

-No, wait.

-Seven, ten.

-No.

UK has won ten championships all in.

This is not just Michael, it's also Sebastian Vettel.

Don't forget. He is German, he's won four.

-Oh!

-So that makes 11.

-Ah.

-It would be like that. I hope I've got this right.

Let me... I'm just trying to think.

Nico Rosberg, Sebastian Vettel.

-So 12 there.

-There's loads of...

-Yeah. I think it's ten. I think that's the order.

-OK.

Well, we've put these... Suzi has put these in the order she...

Hang on. Wait, wait, let me just...

I'm a bit worried I've got those two the wrong way round.

-What about James Hunt?

-James Hunt. 11.

-Get in!

And... Am I missing somebody out?

-I'm missing... Did I say Mike Hawthorn?

-No.

That's 12. And then I'm missing another one.

Suzi has just changed her mind.

We've put them in the order of which we think is right now.

Be it on Suzi's head.

We're going Brazil, Germany and the United Kingdom.

So, Jonathan, it looked obvious,

we thought Suzi would sort this out pretty quickly.

Finally swapped it round after a little bit of deliberation.

But have they managed to convince you?

Right, it's time to put some confidence back in the panel.

-Yes!

-I definitely think that they've got the answer,

so I'm going to go with the panel, definitely.

You're going with the panel.

You're saying Brazil, Germany and the UK.

Is that the correct order of Drivers' Championships,

starting with the least?

For £300...

-Yes!

-Yes!

Well done, well done.

-The pressure was on!

-The relief on that woman's face!

-Well done.

-You know, it's one of those stats

that you sort of know and when you start to go through it,

you question yourself.

That was brilliant, and then the little turnaround...!

-I did my best to contribute on that one.

-You did.

LAUGHTER

Brazil have won eight.

Germany have won 12

-and the UK have won 16.

-16.

Jonathan, well done,

at the end of Round Two your prize pot stands at £700.

-Well done.

-That was a good twist at the end.

Oh! OK, Jonathan, £1,500 still up there.

Let's see if you can get hold of it in Round Three.

In Round Three, Jonathan, you'll face questions that contain

three statements about a person or place or a thing,

but only one of those statements is correct.

We need you to find the correct statement.

It is the final round.

The money goes up to £500 for each correct answer.

Best of luck. Here comes your first question.

Right. My gut instinct, I don't think it's A.

I think it's probably more.

Mine's between B and C.

But obviously, I'd like to ask the panel for their input.

Maybe you want someone who possibly danced on Strictly

to help you out on this.

Panel, your debate starts now.

Hang on a second.

Bit of hairspray continued to be used there, isn't there?

And do you know what, when I started, it's the first time...

And I've always used it since.

-Are you serious?

-I'd never used hairspray before Strictly.

And I did the Sport Relief for Strictly dance-off against Duncan.

And the fake tan, you've kept that up, I see.

Yes, it's good, isn't it?

LAUGHTER

Hairspray's used continuously.

It doesn't matter... To even keep hems down, everywhere.

But Anton du Beke, I don't think he's the only one.

Who else, then? I can't think of anybody else.

Who was on your show, then, when you were dancing, professionals?

Who were you dancing with?

-No, no. It was two of us. So it was just...

-Oh, only two.

-Who did you dance with?

-It's a bit different. Natalie Lowe.

-Oh, yeah.

-And I think Natalie was on there since the start.

-Is Natalie still on there?

-Yeah.

-OK, that's interesting.

-And then the other one.

-And more female contestants...

But a lot of men have won Strictly, though, haven't they?

-A lot of men, yeah.

-There was a period

where it was constantly men winning, sort of early on.

-It's been male the last two...

-Ramprakash.

-Mark Ramprakash won.

He won.

Recently there's been some men who have won, as well.

-Well...

-I'm a bit clueless on this one.

I think it's hairspray.

Hairspray or male...

-It's got to be hairspray.

-I'd go for hairspray, as well.

We think the answer is hairspray.

OK, Jonathan, it's a slightly random answer from our panel,

but could it be true?

I'm completely torn.

See, I think it's B or C.

I think Anton du Beke's been on a lot of series,

but I think if he'd done every series, it would be, like,

all in the magazines and everything and they'd keep harping on about it.

I know it started in 2004.

I'm trying to think how many women had won.

I'm either going to go... I'm going to go against the panel and go C.

Just going to do it.

-Yeah.

-OK, you're going against the panel.

The panel believe it's hairspray.

For £500,

has there been more female winners of Strictly than men?

- Oh, no! - It's hairspray.

During a series, over 500 cans of hairspray are used.

-He is an expert! He is an expert! He's showed you his hair.

-He has.

An average of 504 cans are used in every series.

That figure comes from the official Strictly Come Dancing blog.

Brendan Cole has also appeared in every series.

-Six women have won to date and eight men have won.

-Oh, wow.

So, Jonathan, no money added to the prize pot,

but there's still £1,000 up for grabs.

Here comes your next question.

How's your poultry knowledge, Jonathan?

I'm vegetarian, so... Wrong question!

I haven't got a clue!

I quite like the black-and-white one, cos it's such a random answer.

But then, how would they find that out?

I'm going to just ask the panel.

OK, let's see if we've any meat eaters on the panel.

Your debate starts now.

-I'm a vegetarian, too.

-Are you?

-Jonathan.

Pretty sure that they can see in different colours.

Black and white, I think, is a red herring.

I think I've heard they see in black and white,

but I don't know if it's an urban myth.

And, like Jonathan said, how did they find that out?

A chicken suddenly started to speak.

Live chickens - let's take that one first -

aren't allowed in Antarctica.

I'm guessing, if that was true, it would be to do with disease.

-Why wouldn't they be allowed?

-Maybe something to do with salmonella?

-Live chickens spreading...

-That was the one to me that kind of said...

That kind of makes sense. The first one seems ridiculous.

Yeah, I agree with you.

-Originated from a species...

-An African pheasant.

-No.

-No, I don't think so.

-Don't think so.

I'm happy to go with your opinion on that.

We're going to go with live chickens are not allowed in Antarctica.

So, Jonathan, the panel believe

live chickens are not allowed in Antarctica.

It seems like...

It seems like a ridiculous answer, doesn't it, that would be true.

Like we said, I don't think you can prove black and white

and I see your argument about not coming from the African pheasant.

I'm going to trust the panel and go with C.

You're putting your faith in the panel.

You're going for

live chickens aren't allowed in Antarctica for £500.

Is that the correct statement?

-Yes!

-Well played! Well done!

-Very well done, panel. Very well played, Jonathan.

-Thank you.

An international treaty prohibits the import

of live poultry to Antarctica to protect penguins from disease.

That be the reason. They are thought to originate

from the red junglefowl in southern Asia,

not an African pheasant. Studies have shown

that they can distinguish different colours in different environments.

Well done, guys, well worked out, Jonathan.

Another £500 in the prize pot, bringing you up to £1,200.

Wow, brilliant!

Let's see if we can get you up to 1,700.

Here comes your next question.

God.

Em...

I quite like the A answer,

that her father was a chef at Buckingham Palace.

-You'd like that to be true?

-Yeah.

I don't know if it's factual, but I'd like it to be the answer.

But, once again, I need the panel to help me.

OK, panel, let's see if you can sort this out. Your debate starts now.

I love Delia Smith, but I've no idea.

Well, Delia Smith, so big fame, huge in the '80s, all her books.

Late '70s, through the '80s.

I'm just wondering, if we take the Rolling Stones album cover,

which album cover had a cake on it? Was it Sticky Fingers?

Did that have... Was it like a Union Jack of two fingers?

-Was that a cake?

-I can't remember.

-Am I going off into...?

When did that album come out, though? Was that '80s?

-That would've been late...

-But Delia Smith's got a kind of...

There is a hipness about Delia.

She might have been the go-to chef,

that's what I'm thinking about the Rolling Stones.

-Maybe.

-That sounds more feasible

than allergic to mustard, doesn't it?

A chef being allergic to mustard would be pretty tricky, wouldn't it?

-Was her father a chef?

-I don't know.

If he was a chef at Buckingham Palace, then,

that would have obviously given her a role model.

I just... I never thought of Delia...

I always thought of somebody who is self-taught

and has just picked up a hobby and has made a living out of it.

So if you had a father that was cooking at Buckingham Palace...

-He probably would have been...

-She would have grown up...

I think she would have already had a head start.

I like... I would go with Suzi's first instinct on the cake.

If you think the cake was on an album cover, that was made by Delia,

why would we not go with that?

It could be any of those, couldn't it?

-But, I guess, if...

-Why don't we go for it,

because Jonathan's going to make his own decision, anyway.

Exactly. Exactly. He's got his own mind, that man.

We believe that Delia Smith made a cake for the Rolling Stones.

They look convinced by that, Jonathan.

-Yeah.

-Have they managed to convince you?

Great debate. I think it's quite rock and roll, isn't it?

I'm going to go for B. Yeah.

You're going with B, because you believe it's a bit rock and roll.

Did Delia Smith make a cake for a Rolling Stones album cover?

For £500, the correct statement is...

-Yes!

-Well done.

-Wow!

-Well done.

-Oh, brilliant.

-Very well done.

Very well played. Well done, panel.

Her father was an RAF wireless operator.

She was born in Woking.

She baked a cake for the Rolling Stones album Let It Bleed.

She is a director of Norwich FC,

who used to be sponsored by a famous Norwich mustard manufacturer.

On her website, Delia gives a mustard recipe and says that

she likes the ferocious kick that English mustard gives.

Very well done, Jonathan.

-At the end of Round Three, your prize pot is £1,700.

-Wow!

So, only one question between you and the money.

A little bit too early for this, maybe,

but any plans what you'd do with it?

Part of me would like to get another dog, a French bulldog.

But then I think I probably wouldn't sleep ever again.

So I think a holiday, definitely.

Jonathan, in the final debate, you will face one question.

That question will have six possible answers.

-Right.

-Three are correct.

We need all three correct answers for you to leave with the money,

but don't worry, you are not alone,

you will be joined by one of these fine panellists to assist you.

So, based on their performances today,

who would you like to join you in the final debate?

Would you like to tune your oboe to Suzi Perry?

Would you like to go with Peter Jones, because he's worth it?

Or will you be flying on all four engines with Nitin Ganatra?

They've all been fabulous, just to begin with,

but I think for overall knowledge and just getting really stuck in,

I'm going to pick Suzi.

OK. Suzi, join us as we play the final debate.

OK, Jonathan, as it is our final debate,

we will give you a choice between these two.

Have a little look, tell us what you fancy between...

-What do you think?

-Celebrities, straightaway.

Yeah, you feel like celebrities is your thing?

-OK.

-Yeah, definitely.

-All right.

-Are you happy to do that?

I'm happy to stand here and support you in this, Jonathan.

-Yes, celebrities.

-And help, Suzi, and help.

-And help.

-OK.

-OK.

So, Jonathan, you're going to go for...?

Celebrities.

OK. Best of luck.

£1,700 up for grabs.

We're going to put 45 seconds on the clock.

Here comes your final debate question.

Your 45 seconds starts now.

Right, should we take out the ones that we don't think it is?

-OK.

-I think Richard Burton, possibly, was he? I'm not...

He was married to Elizabeth Taylor.

I don't know if he was married to Marilyn Monroe.

Joe DiMaggio was the baseball player.

He was definitely married to Marilyn Monroe.

Right, so that's one. Do we know about John Warner?

Not sure about that. Arthur Miller's the playwright.

-He was married to Marilyn Monroe.

-So, Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller.

-James Dougherty.

-20 seconds.

I don't know the third one.

Percy Gibson. I don't even recognise the...names.

We definitely think Joe DiMaggio and Arthur Miller.

-Definitely those two.

-It's between them two.

-We need to pick another one.

-James Dougherty...

Who's shouting out you?

I don't know who John Warner is.

-Percy Gibson?

-Jonathan, I need a name.

OK. Going to go for Joe DiMaggio...

Arthur Miller...

and Percy Gibson.

OK, Jonathan, you said Joe DiMaggio, Arthur Miller and Percy Gibson.

If all three of those answers are correct, you leave with the money.

We need them all to be correct.

Best of luck. Here we go.

For £1,700.

The first name you gave us, you were pretty sure on this one,

Joe DiMaggio.

Yes. Well played.

Joe DiMaggio married Marilyn in 1954.

The next name you gave me was Arthur Miller.

To keep us on track for the money,

was Marilyn married to Arthur Miller?

She was. She married Arthur Miller the playwright in 1956.

So, we're looking for Marilyn's third husband for £1,700.

You ruled out Richard Burton.

You weren't sure who John Warner, James Dougherty

or Percy Gibson were.

You plumped for Percy Gibson.

If Percy Gibson is the correct answer, it's £1,700.

We're wishing you all the best here.

Was Percy Gibson married to Marilyn Monroe?

-Oh!

-He wasn't, Jonathan. I'm so sorry!

Percy Gibson is still married to Joan Collins.

The correct answer was...

-I don't want it to be that...

-It was James Dougherty.

-Oh, I was going to say that, as well!

-Yeah, you said him.

James Doughherty married Marilyn very early on in 1942.

He was 21 and he married

his next-door neighbour, Norma Jean Baker.

She was 16 years old.

John Warner and Richard Burton were husbands of Elizabeth Taylor,

Percy Gibson is Joan Collins' fifth husband.

You played the game so, so well, Jonathan, it was so, so close.

Give it up one more time for Jonathan.

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

That is it for Debatable.

Just enough time for me to thank the fantastic panel again,

to Suzi Perry, to Peter Jones and to Nitin Ganatra.

I do hope you have enjoyed watching.

We will see you next time for more heated debates.

For now, it's goodbye from me.