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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Well, goooooood...

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evening, good evening, good evening, good evening, good evening.

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And to a greater or lesser extent, good evening, and welcome to QI,

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where tonight we'll be delving into the seedy world of journalism.

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Before we start sexing up the facts,

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let's look at who's going to be on my press-gang.

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Hold the front page, it's Shappi Khorsandi!

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APPLAUSE

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Drop the dead donkey, it's Ross Noble.

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APPLAUSE

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Another world exclusive Johnny Vegas!

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APPLAUSE

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And, personally responsible for eating Freddie Starr's hamster,

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Alan Davies.

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Now, before we press on, let's hear their buzzers.

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Shappi goes...

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NEWS AT TEN THEME

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That's newsy. Ross goes...

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BOMBASTIC NEWS INTRO

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Quite newsy, too. Johnny goes...

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DRAMATIC NEWS DRUMS

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And Alan goes...

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IT'S A KNOCKOUT THEME

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LAUGHTER

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Very pleasing.

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That's great! So you've actually given...?

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It's A Knockout, yeah.

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You've given us the It's A Knockout theme?

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So at any point we can play that and just wrestle around in that.

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LAUGHTER

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I could go "HA-HA-HA-HA!"

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Then every time I press mine, something terrible will happen.

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Yes, well, yes...

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I can't press my buzzer at all, in case there's a tsunami.

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A volcano has killed the population of Sunderland.

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Anyway, let's start.

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What kind of person lived here?

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NEWS AT TEN THEME

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Yes, already the tragic tones.

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-Initially, you think a very angry person that's quite small.

-Yes.

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LAUGHTER

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Small-minded, or just small?

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It did genuinely exist, this Daily Mail model village.

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This was after the First World War, when housing was in short supply

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and we were trying to build a land fit for heroes...

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And it was made entirely of Daily Mail papier mache, was it?

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Well, the Daily Mail was never shy about trying to draw

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attention to itself with publicity stunts of all kinds -

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athletic stunts, firsts in aviation, and so on.

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It was the Daily Mail that sponsored Amy Johnson to fly to Australia, for example.

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And they decided that they would lead the world, because this was the way they ran in those days,

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and they thought they would contribute to a model village.

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I can see that, like if they go, "Let's have an air race,

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"let's try and cross the Atlantic," they're all quite...

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BOMBASTIC NEWS INTRO

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-..like that. But then, model village...

-But then...

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IT'S A KNOCKOUT THEME

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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You know, it's the sort of thing where, like, Richard Branson said,

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"I'm going to send a rocket to the moon and I'm going to take people,"

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and they go, "Wow, Branson's amazing!"

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And when we get here, I'm going to build a model village!

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Well, I suppose you have to go back to after 1919,

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all those people wiped out by Spanish flu, before that

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all the people wiped out by the First World War,

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and the Daily Mail thought we needed a new, modern Britain

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with new, modern cities, and so they devised this village

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which they thought was going to be absolutely marvellous.

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But the plans were a little overambitious,

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and they were overtaken by the...

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SHAPPI: Guardian village.

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LAUGHTER

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The company who owned the land around

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and who named this new town Welwyn Garden City.

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-Oooh.

-Ah.

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There it was, the Daily Mail model village at Welwyn Garden City, 1922.

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It's a good job it wasn't the Sunday Sport model village,

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because it would be the "Well-In Garden City!"

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LAUGHTER

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Phwoarr!

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Check out the fronts of those houses!

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LAUGHTER

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Total frontage!

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And there is always the back alley, too!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Oh, dear. Er...

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-That is a rubbish model village, it's clearly full-size...

-Yeah.

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Did the Daily Mail believe in giants, and there was a readership that they were missing out on?

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So they built a model village that was normal size,

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so giants would visit and go,

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"Oh, it's tiny!

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"Oh, look at the attention to detail!"

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Don't forget "model" has two meanings -

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there's "model" in the sense of a paragon, a model of its kind.

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-That's what they meant by it.

-It's got three meanings, hasn't it?

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Because "model village" everyone just walks around like that.

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LAUGHTER

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The high street is called "The Catwalk", yeah.

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-Everyone's just in their pants.

-That's true!

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I have to say, I weep when I think of my childhood

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and the amount of time we spent around a model village...

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-Oh, Bekonscot?

-..and what kids have today.

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-Yeah.

-They've got so much, and my mum and dad were going,

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"Look at that, it's Big Ben but this big,"

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and we'd go, "Wow."

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-JOHNNY:

-Your dad didn't drink.

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My dad would go to a model village, drink and go, "I'm King Kong!"

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LAUGHTER

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And just start smashing stuff!

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Oh, how we'd laugh!

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You know why I can't go to model villages?

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Cos when you walk around, because of the painted faces,

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they all look like people who've been trapped by witchcraft.

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-They do, don't they?

-"Help, get me out of here!

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"I'm not really queuing for a newspaper."

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And I come home, shrouded in guilt, and drink.

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LAUGHTER

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I don't know enough about the dark arts to make them all fully-sized.

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If only you could save them.

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The fact is the Daily Mail's model village didn't work.

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They were bought up by the Welwyn Garden City Company, who eventually

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built 41 houses on the six acres and renamed it Meadow Green.

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So it was no longer Daily Mail Village.

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Tell me about the Daily Mail, who founded the Daily Mail?

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-Lord Beaverbrook.

-SHAPPI: Satan.

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Not Lord Beaverbrook, that's The Express - Satan is closer.

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LAUGHTER

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Was it just a load of beavers in a brook?

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No, it's a family that still exists and still controls the group.

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Is it the Patak family?

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-LAUGHING:

-No, it's not the Pataks.

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That would be great!

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-That would be pleasing.

-If we found out the spice dynasty...

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It was founded in 1896 by Alfred Harmsworth,

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who later became Lord Northcliffe.

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So, Alfred Harmsworth was a great showman

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and he had a brilliant gift for making Daily Mail readers

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think they kind of owned The Mail, so he was always having competitions

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asking them how The Mail could be improved, for example.

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There were people who wrote in and said

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"You should perforate your articles so we could tear them out, like stamps,"

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which is an interesting idea.

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Are you sure that wasn't for toilet paper?

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LAUGHTER

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Someone else suggested each page should be perfumed differently, so it smelt different.

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What if you confused the chip paper with the toilet paper?

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Madness would ensue.

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But before he was a press baron,

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he actually wrote a rather QI-style book,

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which had the marvellous title of

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"Answers To Correspondents On Every Subject Under The Sun."

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The first edition contained articles with headlines,

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"What The Queen Eats", "How To Cure Freckles",

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and "Why Jews Don't Ride Bicycles."

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LAUGHTER

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And those three answers covered everything?

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-That wasn't the sum of the questions.

-Oh, right.

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But part of the showman in him was that he guaranteed that,

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if you died with a copy of that book on you, your estate would get £200.

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If you come from a family like mine where they tend to drown themselves,

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-that's the preferred suicide...

-Right...

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..without scuba gear, how are you going to get down there to plant the book?

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LAUGHTER

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I love the fact that he said "That's the PREFERRED method"!

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Like they've gone... "Oh, I've got to do the old suicide, but..."

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-Well there's been a couple of sloppy ones.

-Has there?

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Yeah, coating themselves in dog food, going to the zoo...

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Good God!

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The ones who've really thought it through. It's not just been a last-minute...

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"Lions!"

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Shouldn't it be cat food? For the lions.

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You walk into the lions' enclosure covered in dog food...

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Ross, they haven't thought it through!

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Or else they would drown themselves.

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In Japan... Sorry.

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What they've introduced on the underground, because of

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the delays of people killing themselves is the family get billed,

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and the further out of the city that you kill yourself by jumping on

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their version of the Underground,

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the less money you have to pay,

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so everybody's been going right out to like High Barnet and places like that...

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Honestly! To top themselves, because they don't want to leave the expense for the family.

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-"At least he had the taste to kill himself at Cockfosters"!

-Yeah.

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-Have you got any happy stories?!

-No...

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If you go to Clifton Suspension Bridge, there's a sign as you get to the bridge

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with the phone number of the Samaritans.

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-Yeah.

-Just in case anyone's thinking of jumping off.

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And then no telephone.

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LAUGHTER

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It really makes me think that if you are feeling that way,

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you're going to think "Well, that's just typical of my luck!"

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Wasn't there somebody... I might be making this up.

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Who used to hang around at Beachy Head...

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-Which is a common suicide spot.

-And talk people out of it.

-Yes, indeed.

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-There's priests walking around.

-Priests, and ordinary good, kind people.

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But the thing about Beachy Head is that I've been on to Beachy Head

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when I've say, had a gig in Brighton, and if you just want to have

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a little sit-down, and have a little think, people panic.

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-Well, they assume...

-I had the police come up to me. Yeah.

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Because it is such a popular suicide spot.

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I was just having a little bit of a read.

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I think it was a bit attention seeking of me, if I'm honest. To be honest I was quite down.

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Were you dangling your legs over the edge(?)

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LAUGHTER

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Choking myself!

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HE HOWLS HISTRIONICALLY

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"I'm fine, I'm absolutely fine."

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Now, listen to this obituary,

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and let me know what kind of person is being described.

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"He was a tireless raconteur,

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"who gave colourful accounts of his exploits,

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"but did not suffer fools gladly.

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"An uncompromisingly direct ladies' man,

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"he was affable and hospitable at every hour,

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"but he did not uphold the highest ethical standards of the City."

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NEWS AT TEN

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-Sounds like a bit of a wrong 'un.

-Yes.

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Because they're all things that you kind of...

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I've got a problem with that expression,

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-"Didn't suffer fools gladly."

-You've put your finger on it.

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Who does? Who does suffer fools gladly?

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Who goes, "I want to spend the weekend with a fool?"

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You have, you're on my team.

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LAUGHTER

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You've put your finger on it, Shappi.

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The point is, all those phrases are what used to be obituary code,

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and basically you had to translate it.

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"A tireless raconteur" means a crashing bore.

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Is it Nick Clegg?

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It's not one individual, it's just these different things.

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"Affable and hospitable at every hour",

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or simply convivial a drunk.

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Basically, a terrible drunk.

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"Uncompromisingly direct ladies' man" -

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a serial groper.

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You'd also get, "Devoted much of his time to the Boys' Brigade and the Boy Scouts."

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That also tells you a lot about such figures.

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-"Gave colourful accounts of his exploits."

-Liar.

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Liar, exactly.

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"Did not uphold the highest ethical standards of the City."

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-Thief.

-Yeah, fraudster, basically.

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-And "Did not suffer fools gladly."

-Intolerant!

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A total shit, exactly.

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LAUGHTER

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A howling shit.

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LAUGHTER

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And these were the codes, and you read the obituaries

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and you kind of understood what was being said about them.

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The longest Times newspaper obituary was 60,000 words.

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Who do you think for?

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Queen Victoria.

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-Queen Victoria's the right answer, well done.

-Point!

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APPLAUSE

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Very good.

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That's very good, very good.

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But can you name anyone who's actually read his own, premature, obituary?

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Has anyone ever read their own obituary while being alive?

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There's a weird thing about... You know Frankie Howerd

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and Benny Hill died on the same day,

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and they rang up Benny Hill to say...

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This is apparently true, right.

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Don't laugh. This is death! I'm not inviting you to my funeral!

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Apparently they rang up Benny Hill to get

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a quote about the death of Frankie Howerd,

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and his agent couldn't get a hold of him, so she made up a quote.

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But he'd already died.

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SHE GASPS

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And he was at home, in his flat,

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and then the TVs were already broadcasting his thing

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on the death of somebody else, and he was already dead.

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SHAPPI: That's such a typical agent thing,

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to not realise you're dead!

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LAUGHTER

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My wife used to work for an agency,

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and one of their clients,

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who was called Rory, passed away.

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But she, mistakenly, thought it was Rory McGrath.

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So for about a week, every time somebody rang for Rory McGrath, she'd say...

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.."I'm so sorry..."

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And they would say, "But I only saw him on Tuesday!"

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"He seemed so well!"

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I had a friend who ran an agency like that,

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and her now ex-husband,

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who wasn't the most sensitive type,

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one of the clients,

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somebody rang up, rang the house and obviously said she'd passed away.

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And he just left a note on the fridge saying,

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"Mrs Johnson, brown bread."

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And so she went shopping!

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Oh, no!

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LAUGHTER

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-He thought that she needed groceries!

-Oh, dear.

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There are two stories, one was that Alfred Nobel read his own obituary

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and was described as being "a merchant of death"

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-because he invented...

-Dynamite.

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Dynamite, yes, exactly.

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And he was so horrified, and he wasn't dead,

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that he instituted the Nobel Prizes

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in order to try and reclaim his name.

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That is not, in fact, a true story, it's a myth.

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The other one is Marcus Garvey, the Jamaican black nationalist,

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apparently died as a result of reading his obituary.

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He had a stroke when he read the Chicago Defender newspaper,

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which printed his obituary describing him as

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"broke, alone and unpopular."

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AUDIENCE: Awww.

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-Terribly sad.

-That's like Googling yourself.

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Mine would just say, "It's safe to come out now."

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LAUGHTER

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"He's gone, honest."

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"Friends who knew him said, 'Yes, he really was like that.'"

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LAUGHTER

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The other day, I was driving through Islington,

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and there was a hearse slowing everything down,

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and I did say to my wife, "If it's my funeral,

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"tell the bloke driving the hearse to step on it, I would not..."

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Vroom!

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Instead of having a coffin, as well, just have the body

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so that as you're going round the corners you're slamming against...

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LAUGHTER

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Get some chickens...

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Get some chickens in a cage and some boxes to drive through,

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just make it look like...

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LAUGHTER

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Like an A-Team finale.

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What music do you want your coffin to go...?

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-When your coffin disappears?

-The Sweeney theme.

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That would be a good one.

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HE SINGS THE SWEENEY THEME

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The end music when it's really slow.

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When the foot presses on the accelerator.

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I'd quite like the music from 'Allo, 'Allo

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with "You have been watching..." and my body like that.

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LAUGHTER

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You know one of the most popular ones is the Countdown theme.

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STEPHEN SINGS THE COUNTDOWN THEME

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When my dad died, he was a big fan of sailing,

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so we gave him a Viking send off.

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We put his ashes in a boat and tried to set fire to it.

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But, cos it was in the North Sea, it wouldn't light...

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LAUGHTER

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..so what we did was, we were trying to fill the boat full of his ashes,

0:17:050:17:09

and we were going, "Do you tip the ashes straight into the boat, or do you put them in bags?"

0:17:090:17:13

And my mum, who's ever practical, went,

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"I've got some sandwich bags, I'll get some sandwich bags."

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LAUGHTER

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So we went out to sea, then off he went and shot off into the distance.

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Was it a remote-controlled boat?

0:17:240:17:26

-It was, yeah! Like a proper big yacht.

-You're joking!

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No, seriously.

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-You sent your dad off with four double-As?

-We did!

0:17:310:17:34

LAUGHTER

0:17:340:17:35

Keep going till the batteries run out!

0:17:370:17:40

Going around in circles!

0:17:400:17:42

You're there with an air rifle, like that.

0:17:430:17:46

And the people from the miniature village were going, "Help that man!"

0:17:460:17:49

"Someone, help him!"

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A little lifeboat comes out.

0:17:500:17:52

LAUGHTER

0:17:520:17:54

Did you not argue over who used the remote control?

0:17:540:17:56

That wouldn't work in our family.

0:17:560:17:59

"Give it here, you're doing it wrong!"

0:17:590:18:01

"He was my dad, too! Give us a go!"

0:18:010:18:05

LAUGHTER

0:18:050:18:07

The word "dignity" is not the first...

0:18:070:18:10

LAUGHTER

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This is the thing, that's exactly what he would have wanted,

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And I've said the same thing - like Hunter S Thompson, when he died,

0:18:140:18:18

he was put in a cannon and fired off across the valley he used to own,

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and what I'd quite like to do is be put in pepper spray,

0:18:220:18:27

and then people that I don't like

0:18:270:18:29

I'm going to get my wife to go "Fffft!" like that.

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LAUGHTER

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Face full of Noble!

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Oh my God, how did we get here? I can't even remember.

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LAUGHTER

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The fact is, no matter how many character flaws you have,

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you can be sure they'll be euphemistically dealt with

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in your obituary.

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Journalists are not above a bit of muck-raking, of course,

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but can you describe the most expensive piece of shit

0:18:520:18:56

to come out of a British bank?

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Is it some sort of fossilised, dinosodic poo in the...?

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How extraordinary you are, Ross Noble.

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For 20 minutes you've been gibbering like an idiot...

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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..suddenly you've come up with a brilliant answer.

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APPLAUSE

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You're absolutely right.

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The only way you could be righter is if you could give me

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a technical name for fossilised shit.

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-Is there going to be faeces in the thing?

-Well, yes,

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you can call it palaeontofaeces, or you can call it coprolite.

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"Copra" is shit in Latin.

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Coprolite sounds like a chocolate bar.

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It does, rather, doesn't it? Not a very nice one.

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But it was a Lloyds Bank in York, of all places,

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and they found this period poo in 1972.

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It was 23 centimetres long, five centimetres wide, a human poo.

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It was a Viking poo.

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Did they find this within the bank, or was it...?

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I'm taking it it was a staff day out.

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LAUGHTER

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It was found under the branch, this stone hanging down...

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-To be honest, it just looks like an old Wotsit to me.

-It does,

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but when you examine it more closely you will see it is a poo,

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and you can actually even determine what was eaten,

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and that is cereal bran, so they were quite healthy and regular,

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and hence the...I wouldn't say

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it's the most normal looking stool I've ever seen...

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So you're telling me that every time I go to the loo

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I am flushing away millions?

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In future I'm going to go to my bank and have a shit there.

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But I'm going to tag it so that my family in future...

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You're going to walk in and say, "I'm just going to make a deposit."

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Oh dear, oh dear.

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The poo's discoverer, Andrew "Bones" Jones,

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said, "this is the most..."

0:20:460:20:48

LAUGHTER

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"..the most exciting piece of excrement I've ever seen.

0:20:490:20:53

"In its own way, it's as valuable as the Crown Jewels."

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There was another exciting coprolite that was discovered.

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It was a T Rex turd that was found in Saskatchewan in 1998,

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and that was 17 inches long and six inches thick.

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And that was reckoned to be a bit of it knocked off,

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that the actual turd would have been even bigger.

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How did they know?

0:21:130:21:14

Was there a dead T Rex next to it that had pooed itself to death?

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LAUGHTER

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It was found reaching for the toilet roll with its tiny claws.

0:21:200:21:24

LAUGHTER

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-How does it wipe...?

-T Rex's died of frustration,

0:21:250:21:29

cos they couldn't get round to wipe.

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Coprolites are not everybody's cup of tea,

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collecting fossilised turds...

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-People like poo, though.

-They do, don't they?

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They do like poo, they like drawing with poo.

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I went to someone's house and they had this elephant poo painting.

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But when communication breaks down, it does make a bold statement.

0:21:460:21:50

LAUGHTER

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When you write something on the wall, like, "Call me a taxi..."

0:21:510:21:55

they do do it, honestly.

0:21:550:21:57

LAUGHTER

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You know like one of them parties when you've had enough?

0:21:590:22:02

You write on the wall with your own faeces,

0:22:020:22:04

people start listening to you!

0:22:040:22:07

LAUGHTER

0:22:070:22:09

You've just got to do one big enough to go,

0:22:120:22:14

"I was not fond of the cheesecake..."

0:22:140:22:16

LAUGHTER

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"..and considering you're out of vodka and I'm low on turd,

0:22:180:22:20

"I would like to go home now."

0:22:200:22:23

The odd thing is when the forensic scientists come in and find out

0:22:240:22:28

that it was Johnny Vegas's poo, but it was Lorraine Kelly's handwriting.

0:22:280:22:32

LAUGHTER

0:22:320:22:33

Yeah, the diction was perfect,

0:22:330:22:36

and even the sweetcorn was used for little commas.

0:22:360:22:39

AUDIENCE: Awww!

0:22:390:22:40

Oh, now! Now, there's the line!

0:22:400:22:44

We've found the line.

0:22:440:22:45

You've crossed a boundary.

0:22:460:22:49

Are you finding you're not selling as much Tupperware at these parties?

0:22:490:22:52

LAUGHTER

0:22:520:22:53

I don't mean to keep it in that area, but I will.

0:22:550:22:59

-My wife once had, you know those bath bomb things?

-Yes.

0:22:590:23:02

-Yeah, the fizzy ones.

-Yeah, "lass grenades" I call them.

0:23:020:23:05

You chuck them in the bath and they fizz up

0:23:050:23:08

and fill the bath with glitter, and I didn't realise,

0:23:080:23:11

went in the bath, and quite a lot of glitter had gone in my...

0:23:110:23:14

in my bum, and I didn't realise,

0:23:140:23:17

and I did a poo, and I looked into the toilet,

0:23:170:23:19

and it was sparkling, right...

0:23:190:23:21

LAUGHTER

0:23:210:23:22

I, honestly, for a minute I thought I had a magic arse.

0:23:220:23:27

I honestly did. Yeah.

0:23:270:23:31

That was lovely.

0:23:310:23:32

That's a beautiful story. Anyway, moving on.

0:23:340:23:39

What's the name of the highly fortified building

0:23:390:23:41

where most of the gold in America is kept?

0:23:410:23:44

Aww! Now, don't do it, don't do it.

0:23:440:23:47

SHAPPI BUZZES

0:23:470:23:49

The Beckhams' house?

0:23:490:23:52

The Beckham house is a good answer.

0:23:520:23:55

Most of the gold in America is kept in a single place.

0:23:550:23:58

Is this a double bluff and it IS going to be Fort Knox?

0:23:580:24:01

ALARM RINGS

0:24:010:24:04

It's not Fort Knox, no.

0:24:040:24:06

Nearly twice as much gold is at the Federal Reserve Bank in New York,

0:24:080:24:12

their equivalent of the Bank of England.

0:24:120:24:14

They have there about 7,000 tonnes of bullion,

0:24:140:24:17

and in Fort Knox, they've got no more than around 4,500 tonnes

0:24:170:24:21

-which is not quite half, but...

-A pittance!

-..still a lot.

0:24:210:24:25

But they've had some interesting things in Fort Knox apart from gold.

0:24:250:24:29

They've had one of the great English treasures.

0:24:290:24:32

If I were to say the year...

0:24:320:24:34

Oh, Thora Hird?

0:24:340:24:36

Not Thora Hird. I'll say the year 1215 to you. Does that...?

0:24:360:24:41

-The Magna Carta.

-Very good. They had the Magna Carta

0:24:410:24:44

in Fort Knox for some short time.

0:24:440:24:46

They also stored the crown, sword, sceptre, orb and cape

0:24:460:24:51

of Saint Stephen, King of Hungary was stored there

0:24:510:24:54

and then returned to the government in Hungary in 1978.

0:24:540:24:57

Was it like a cloakroom? Did he come in? "Oh, all right, take the cape!"

0:24:570:25:00

-"There's me orb."

-He lost his ticket and they wouldn't give it back.

0:25:000:25:03

Really annoyed.

0:25:030:25:05

Honestly, I am the King of Hung... let me try the crown on,

0:25:050:25:08

-it's a perfect fit, I promise.

-Anyway...

0:25:080:25:10

And where do Spandau Ballet fit into the equation?

0:25:100:25:13

They're like the Rasputin of the new government.

0:25:130:25:17

Is there something I'm missing out here?

0:25:170:25:19

THEY SING "GOLD" BY SPANDAU BALLET

0:25:190:25:22

Let's sing that and run at him!

0:25:220:25:25

# You're indestructible Always believe in

0:25:250:25:29

# Boom, boom, GOLD! #

0:25:290:25:31

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:25:310:25:34

I'm just going to move on to the next question if I may,

0:25:420:25:45

which is can you think of a way of promoting railways

0:25:450:25:48

that is guaranteed to get into the papers?

0:25:480:25:50

SHAPPI BUZZES

0:25:500:25:52

Make them work.

0:25:520:25:53

Ah! Very good!

0:25:530:25:55

APPLAUSE

0:25:550:25:57

-Good answer.

-Crash?

0:25:590:26:01

-Mmm!

-Crash them.

-You're right. You get the points.

-You're joking?!

0:26:010:26:04

-I'm not.

-I just saw Branson and thought "Crash."

-Make them crash.

0:26:040:26:08

Funnily enough, a man called Crush was a rail magnate in America,

0:26:080:26:13

and in order to draw attention to what he thought

0:26:130:26:16

was his supreme line across Texas, he arranged for this public display

0:26:160:26:20

of two trains charging into each other.

0:26:200:26:23

They were either end of a four-mile track.

0:26:230:26:26

They began to accelerate and then they collided to great cheers.

0:26:260:26:30

Both boilers exploded, metal began to fly,

0:26:300:26:32

spectators ran in blind panic, two young men and a woman were killed.

0:26:320:26:36

At least six other people were seriously injured in the debris.

0:26:360:26:40

There's a lot of death in the show today.

0:26:400:26:42

Sounds like something Branson would attempt, doesn't it?

0:26:420:26:46

It sounds to me like Thomas The Tank Engine Does Die Hard!

0:26:460:26:50

IMPERSONATES RINGO STARR: Thomas and Percy were flying towards each other

0:26:500:26:53

in some horrific showdown to the death!

0:26:530:26:56

That'd be the Thomas The Tank Engine video game with the 18 certificate.

0:26:560:27:01

-Yes.

-Grand Theft Thomas!

0:27:010:27:03

LAUGHTER

0:27:030:27:04

IMPERSONATES RINGO STARR: Thomas went chugging down there,

0:27:040:27:08

he killed a prostitute for extra money.

0:27:080:27:10

I very much like this idea. We must write this down.

0:27:110:27:16

"Thomas video game."

0:27:170:27:19

Other ways of trying to get publicity for things.

0:27:190:27:22

Honore de Balzac, the great French writer, he wrote a play.

0:27:220:27:27

It's called Les Rubriques de Quinola.

0:27:270:27:31

And his way of drumming up attention for it was to tell everybody

0:27:310:27:35

that it was sold out. Unfortunately, this backfired cos everyone thought,

0:27:350:27:39

FRENCH ACCENT: "No point trying to buy a ticket.

0:27:390:27:41

"It's sold out, I can't go and see it." so it was a complete failure.

0:27:410:27:44

There's a brilliant novel by Ted Heller called Funnymen,

0:27:440:27:47

and it's about a fictional comic double act.

0:27:470:27:50

In one of their shows, someone had a heart attack

0:27:500:27:52

and they came upon this brilliant publicity scam

0:27:520:27:54

where they would have ambulances outside the theatre,

0:27:540:27:57

cos they were so funny,

0:27:570:27:58

it was almost certain someone would have a heart attack and die.

0:27:580:28:01

Then they would have people feigning heart attacks

0:28:010:28:03

-and being ferried off in ambulances.

-That's happened at one of my gigs.

0:28:030:28:08

A girl was laughing so much, she had a really bad asthma attack.

0:28:080:28:11

That's a dilemma, cos on the one hand you're thinking, "That's terrible."

0:28:110:28:14

But on the other hand you're thinking, "Ye-e-es!"

0:28:140:28:16

Nearly killed one!

0:28:180:28:19

I killed them tonight! I killed them!

0:28:190:28:22

-That one's dead. 999 to go.

-Exactly.

0:28:220:28:25

Now, some people will do anything for fame.

0:28:270:28:30

But what did The Famous Five have lashings of?

0:28:300:28:34

NEWS AT TEN THEME Ginger beer.

0:28:340:28:36

-ALARM RINGS

-No!

0:28:360:28:39

-Someone had to say it.

-I read all of those books.

0:28:390:28:43

I'm gutted that I don't know.

0:28:430:28:45

It's funny, cos in the books there is only one foodstuff that is referred to

0:28:450:28:49

-in all the Famous Five books, of which they had lashings.

-Yeah, they... They eat the dog.

0:28:490:28:54

-Treacle.

-They don't eat the dog, no.

0:28:540:28:57

Asbestos.

0:28:580:28:59

They had lashings of asbestos.

0:29:010:29:03

Before they realised just how dangerous it was in powdered form.

0:29:040:29:08

-The dog in The Famous Five was Asbestos?

-No, not the dog.

0:29:080:29:11

-Sorry, I thought the dog was Asbestos.

-They just packed lots of asbestos

0:29:110:29:14

for its fire-retardant qualities.

0:29:140:29:15

-Asbestos is a very good name for a dog.

-It's good, isn't it?

-Asbestos!

0:29:150:29:20

-SHOUTS:

-As-bes-tos!

0:29:210:29:22

The reason...

0:29:220:29:24

-My uncle had a dog named after Charlie Mingus, the jazz musician.

-Yeah.

0:29:240:29:30

Mingus. Problem was, is that he's got the same accent as me.

0:29:300:29:35

He'd be in the Park, and he'd just be shouting, "Mingus! Mingus!"

0:29:350:29:40

-And the... The local girls thought that he was...

-Yeah, talking to them.

0:29:400:29:45

"Mingus!" "Piss off!"

0:29:450:29:48

"Mingus!" "Who are you calling mingers?"

0:29:480:29:50

And it led to all sorts of problems.

0:29:500:29:51

I'm sure it did. Why do we think of the lashings of ginger beer?

0:29:510:29:55

Because of The Comic Strip Presents...

0:29:550:29:57

Because The Comic Strip Presents..., their first film was The Comic Strip Presents Five Go Mad In Dorset...

0:29:570:30:03

-It's very funny.

-..and they kept going on about having lashings of ginger beer.

0:30:030:30:06

But in the actual books, there is no reference to lashings of ginger beer.

0:30:060:30:10

But in one of the books, Five Go Down To The Sea,

0:30:100:30:13

they did arrive at a Cornish farm and immediately settled down to

0:30:130:30:16

a high tea of lettuce, tomatoes, onions, radishes,

0:30:160:30:19

mustard and cress, carrot grated up and lashings of hard-boiled eggs.

0:30:190:30:23

-Eggs! I was going to say eggs!

-You were going to say that!

0:30:230:30:26

They always go in to farmhouses and get free eggs.

0:30:260:30:28

The only lashings Enid Blyton gave The Famous Five were lashings of hard-boiled eggs.

0:30:280:30:32

-They never had lashings of ginger beer.

-That's a terrible picnic.

0:30:320:30:35

Who has onions at a picnic?

0:30:350:30:37

It's very hard to lash an egg.

0:30:370:30:39

Unless you're in some sort of S&M thing with Humpty Dumpty.

0:30:390:30:42

That's why they couldn't put him back together again.

0:30:430:30:46

I'll give you 10 points if you can give me, within three,

0:30:460:30:50

the number of books that Enid Blyton wrote a year.

0:30:500:30:53

-42.

-You were damn close. You were just out of range, I'm afraid.

0:30:530:30:58

She actually wrote 37 books a year.

0:30:580:31:01

And, talking of busy women, let's move on to another question here.

0:31:010:31:04

Why have we never heard of Harriet Quimby?

0:31:040:31:07

-You've heard of Fred Quimby who produced the...

-Tom and Jerry.

-Tom and Jerry.

0:31:070:31:11

And Mayor Quimby in The Simpsons,

0:31:110:31:14

but Harriet was the first American woman to become a licensed pilot,

0:31:140:31:17

and the first woman to fly the English Channel.

0:31:170:31:21

But unfortunately, it just so happened her record-breaking flight didn't make the news

0:31:210:31:26

because she completed it the day after the Titanic sank.

0:31:260:31:30

So, it just was a damp squib, to say the least.

0:31:300:31:34

She was famous in her day. She was one of the very first screenwriters at the very

0:31:340:31:38

beginning of Hollywood. She wrote seven scenarios for the father of cinema, DW Griffith.

0:31:380:31:44

She died aged 37 at an aviation meet, sadly crashing.

0:31:440:31:49

But it was an impressive and a short and brilliant life.

0:31:490:31:52

Who was the first man to fly the Channel, do you remember?

0:31:520:31:55

Oh, we all know him! We all know the MEN that fly the channel.

0:31:550:31:58

-A mean, I don't...

-Well, he was the first person.

0:31:580:32:01

LAUGHTER

0:32:010:32:03

Louis Bleriot. It was one of the great achievements.

0:32:030:32:05

He flew from England to France, but the French authorities,

0:32:050:32:08

when he landed, didn't have a form,

0:32:080:32:10

and so they signed him in as having landed

0:32:100:32:14

on a yacht called Monoplane, because that's the best they could do.

0:32:140:32:18

It was a huge feat at the time, and it was a £1,000 prize offered by...?

0:32:180:32:21

-The Daily Mail?

-Of course, the Daily Mail. Well done. Exactly.

0:32:220:32:25

But you know what, Harriet did that backwards and in heels.

0:32:250:32:29

-Exactly. Very good. Good point.

-Thank you.

0:32:290:32:31

I'm sure it was harder for her.

0:32:310:32:33

But it can be...

0:32:330:32:34

LAUGHTER

0:32:340:32:38

It can be very difficult to die at the wrong time.

0:32:380:32:41

Can you think of people who died unfortunately on the same day

0:32:410:32:44

as somebody even better known than themselves?

0:32:440:32:47

Oh, I know! NEWS AT TEN THEME

0:32:470:32:49

-Mother Teresa.

-Who died the same day as...?

-Diana. The Princess of Wales.

0:32:490:32:54

Precisely, so she was not only below the fold, she was over the page.

0:32:540:32:57

I only realised couple of months ago Mother Teresa was dead.

0:32:570:33:00

Yes, yes. Who died on the same day as Michael Jackson?

0:33:000:33:03

Arr! It was an actress, wasn't it? It was...Farrah Fawcett!

0:33:050:33:09

Farrah Fawcett is the right answer, well done!

0:33:090:33:12

Summoned up from nowhere.

0:33:120:33:14

I've just found out this moment that Farrah Fawcett's dead!

0:33:150:33:19

-Oh, you didn't know that?

-She died on the same day as Michael Jackson.

0:33:190:33:23

LAUGHTER

0:33:230:33:25

Apparently when the ambulance men

0:33:250:33:27

were driving up Michael Jackson's drive,

0:33:270:33:30

they heard he wasn't breathing and they're driving up there

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and one goes, "What are we going to try first?"

0:33:330:33:35

And the other one went, "I reckon the rollercoaster."

0:33:350:33:38

LAUGHTER

0:33:380:33:40

-Terrible.

-But do you do that thing where, if you're on a plane

0:33:400:33:44

and there's somebody famous on there, you look at them and think,

0:33:440:33:47

"If this goes down, who's going to get top of the bill?"

0:33:470:33:51

I have to say, I haven't yet thought that.

0:33:510:33:55

It would be a sad thought, "Would I get the headline?"

0:33:550:33:57

I was on a plane with Sting once.

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Well, "Sting and Alan Davies Go Down" would be...

0:34:000:34:04

LAUGHTER

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APPLAUSE

0:34:070:34:10

It was in Australia...

0:34:130:34:15

"Sting and Jonathan Creek man!"

0:34:150:34:17

We were going on an internal flight in Australia,

0:34:170:34:21

and he knelt on his seat talking to the person behind him

0:34:210:34:24

so everyone on the plane could see him for the whole...

0:34:240:34:26

and he didn't do a single song, not one song!

0:34:260:34:29

Was he not just doing Yoga?

0:34:290:34:31

He was sat there but his head was fully...fully twisted.

0:34:310:34:34

-Finally, 22nd of November 1963. Who died then?

-Kennedy.

0:34:340:34:39

Right, so, JFK.

0:34:390:34:40

That was obviously huge news, the American president dying.

0:34:400:34:44

As it happens, two very distinguished authors died on the same day.

0:34:440:34:47

Both British, as it happens.

0:34:470:34:50

CS Lewis and Aldous Huxley both died on the same day as Kennedy,

0:34:500:34:54

so both got rather tiny-winy little obituaries.

0:34:540:34:57

Now, how can you get a German on your side

0:34:570:35:00

before he's even had his Corn Flakes?

0:35:000:35:02

NEWS AT TEN THEME

0:35:020:35:04

Allow him to put his towel over them first.

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Mine definitely do.

0:35:070:35:08

This is a reference to a very specific operation

0:35:080:35:11

-in the Second World War, and it was called Operation...?

-Corn Flakes.

0:35:110:35:15

-Operation Corn Flakes, exactly.

-Put the milk in the bowl first,

0:35:150:35:17

-because it's more...

-Maddens them!

0:35:170:35:20

-Does it?

-No, no!

0:35:200:35:23

LAUGHTER

0:35:230:35:26

Tell me anything now and I'll believe it.

0:35:260:35:29

This was an ingenious method of distributing Allied propaganda.

0:35:290:35:33

A bomber would bomb a mail train in Germany

0:35:330:35:36

and a second plane would come along and drop tonnes and tonnes

0:35:360:35:41

of fake mail addressed to real German addresses,

0:35:410:35:44

that was filled with anti-German propaganda.

0:35:440:35:47

Some of the stamps were even...you can see the one on the far right,

0:35:470:35:51

they looked so like the real one.

0:35:510:35:55

That says, "Futsches Reich," "Ruined Empire."

0:35:550:35:58

And it has Hitler as a skull.

0:35:580:36:00

And those were the normal stamps the German empire had at the time.

0:36:000:36:04

A group in Rome prepared envelopes

0:36:040:36:06

with more than two million names and addresses.

0:36:060:36:09

The whole point was that the train had appeared to be derailed

0:36:090:36:12

and the people would come to rescue the mail and they'd see amongst it

0:36:120:36:15

these mailbags, identical to proper German postal mailbags

0:36:150:36:18

that had been dropped by the second Allied bomber,

0:36:180:36:20

and they were addressed to thousands of people

0:36:200:36:24

telling them they were losing the war, Hitler was lying to them.

0:36:240:36:27

It was known as Operation Corn Flakes

0:36:270:36:29

because they opened their letters with their Corn Flakes, as it were.

0:36:290:36:33

Quite interesting.

0:36:330:36:34

But it's time for a Dubious Theory.

0:36:340:36:37

1940S-STYLE RADIO ANNOUNCER: "A Dubious Theory from Stephen Fry."

0:36:370:36:41

RECORD SCRATCHES TO A STOP

0:36:410:36:42

Yes, erm, according to Dutch writer Iman Wilkens,

0:36:420:36:47

the Trojan War actually took place in England, near Cambridge.

0:36:470:36:51

The area which Homer calls Crete was Scandinavia, Sparta was Spain

0:36:510:36:56

and Lesbos was the Isle of Wight. Dubious or not?

0:36:560:37:00

Read out the arguments at Trojanschmojan.co.uk

0:37:000:37:04

and then decide for yourself.

0:37:040:37:06

1940S-STYLE RADIO ANNOUNCER: "A Dubious Theory From Stephen Fry"

0:37:060:37:10

-Is that a website that's been set up by the elves?

-Yes, it is.

0:37:100:37:13

But it basically assembles all the facts

0:37:130:37:16

which people who genuinely adhere to this theory, that the Trojan War

0:37:160:37:20

really does not seem to qualify for a Greek war. For example,

0:37:200:37:23

there's no mention of any Greeks anywhere.

0:37:230:37:26

Troy's attackers are referred to as Danaeans and Achaeans,

0:37:260:37:30

who could be Danes,

0:37:300:37:31

could be people from Argos, the kingdom of Northern France.

0:37:310:37:35

And Homer's Troy also has a climate which is very un-Mediterranean,

0:37:350:37:39

-full of storms and wind and rain.

-But Stephen, were this true,

0:37:390:37:42

would we not have relics all around East Anglia?

0:37:420:37:48

Swords and helmets and that kind of thing?

0:37:480:37:50

-And a massive rotten old horse...

-And a rotten old horse, exactly.

0:37:500:37:53

..in Cambridge City Centre.

0:37:530:37:55

Exactly! There are counter arguments,

0:37:550:37:58

and most people will believe that it is dubious.

0:37:580:38:01

Canakkale in Turkey is generally believed to be

0:38:010:38:04

the archaeological site of Ilium or Troy,

0:38:040:38:07

but there are serious historians who maintain

0:38:070:38:10

that Homer was writing about a Trojan War

0:38:100:38:12

that in fact took place in Britain. In East Anglia, would you believe?

0:38:120:38:16

All right, What kind of hat did they wear in the Wild West?

0:38:160:38:19

Ten-gallon hat.

0:38:190:38:21

-ALARM RINGS

-Ten-gallon hat?

0:38:210:38:24

Five-gallon hat?

0:38:250:38:27

-No, no.

-Of course, cos now it's litres, isn't it?

-45 litre?

0:38:270:38:32

-No litres or gallons.

-Was it a Stetson? Can I have Stetson?

0:38:320:38:36

-It wasn't a Stetson, no.

-ALARM RINGS

0:38:360:38:39

-The most popular hat by far...

-ROSS: A cap, a flat cap.

-No.

0:38:390:38:44

-It was the, it was the...

-Say it.

-A bowler hat.

0:38:440:38:48

Yes, a bowler hat is the right answer.

0:38:480:38:51

-APPLAUSE

-Far and away. There we are.

0:38:510:38:55

We think of the bowler hat as the British businessman,

0:38:550:38:57

but in fact it was THE preferred hat in the West.

0:38:570:39:00

That's a pretty wild bunch, there. Butch Cassidy, seated front right.

0:39:000:39:05

Sundance Kid, Harry Longabaugh, of course, front left.

0:39:050:39:08

In fact, their pride in having their photographs taken with those hats was their undoing,

0:39:080:39:12

because the Pinkerton agency reproduced the photographs

0:39:120:39:15

and gave it to their agents, who tracked them down and killed them.

0:39:150:39:19

It was hat makers Thomas and William Bowler who created the hat,

0:39:190:39:22

but they weren't known as bowler hats in America, nor are they to this day. What do they call them?

0:39:220:39:28

-AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Derbies.

-Derbies, yes. "Darbies" or "derbies"

0:39:280:39:31

Bowlers basically were much more common in the Wild West than Stetsons.

0:39:310:39:36

Who fancies a shoot-out with a real, live vortex canon?

0:39:360:39:40

I've given you one each. You've got a box. See that box, there?

0:39:400:39:44

It's simply a box, all right?

0:39:440:39:47

Now, the hole is where the vortex emerges,

0:39:470:39:51

so if you lean it so that the hole is pointing at the target, all right?

0:39:510:39:56

And basically, what you've got to do is smack the side of the box.

0:39:560:40:00

All right? After three, two, one... Smack!

0:40:000:40:03

-Very good. There you are!

-Wow!

0:40:050:40:08

APPLAUSE

0:40:080:40:10

LAUGHTER

0:40:150:40:17

But what we can...

0:40:170:40:19

Yes. What we can do, before you destroy the box,

0:40:190:40:22

Before you destroy the box, you can do something even more exciting,

0:40:280:40:31

and that is fill it with smoke,

0:40:310:40:33

and it will demonstrate what, in fact, was happening with the air.

0:40:330:40:36

You should all have smoke machines.

0:40:360:40:39

LAUGHTER

0:40:390:40:41

That's it, fill with smoke. Fill it with smoke. And now...

0:40:410:40:46

-AUDIENCE GASPS

-Look! Look at that!

0:40:460:40:49

Just a gentle tap. That is a vortex, those beautiful smoke rings.

0:40:520:40:56

A lovely one, there.

0:40:560:40:58

I've got... I've got an enormous cannon, here.

0:41:030:41:07

I'm going to fill mine with...

0:41:070:41:09

SMOKE MACHINE HISSES

0:41:090:41:12

I'll see if I can get mine across the... Across the room, here.

0:41:130:41:16

SHAPPI: You can even chase each other!

0:41:160:41:18

Here we go. I've got it the wrong way round.

0:41:180:41:22

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:41:220:41:25

AUDIENCE GASPS

0:41:250:41:27

We'll let the smoke drift a little.

0:41:290:41:31

Would anyone like a big dustbin?

0:41:340:41:36

It's simply pressure of air creating this wonderful vortex.

0:41:380:41:42

-No, it's not, it's magic.

-Nice one, Alan!

0:41:420:41:44

Hey, with this kind of magic we could make the tiny people big again.

0:41:460:41:51

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:41:510:41:54

Basically, ladies and gentlemen, that's it.

0:42:060:42:10

Hours of fun can be had

0:42:100:42:11

-playing with your own home-made vortex canon.

-Quick! More smoke!

0:42:110:42:16

And I suppose it must be time now for me to give the scores.

0:42:160:42:20

And how interesting they are.

0:42:200:42:22

In first place, with minus 5, is Ross Noble.

0:42:220:42:26

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:42:260:42:29

Second equal with minus 6, Alan Davies and Johnny Vegas.

0:42:290:42:35

APPLAUSE

0:42:350:42:37

And a slightly unhappy Shappi with minus 17.

0:42:400:42:42

APPLAUSE DROWNS SPEECH

0:42:420:42:45

THEME MUSIC

0:42:450:42:48

Those lovely smoke rings. Lovely smoke rings.

0:42:510:42:54

So, that's all from Shappi, Johnny, Ross, Alan and me.

0:42:540:42:58

And I will leave you with this from Abraham Lincoln.

0:42:580:43:00

"The trouble with quotes taken from the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine."

0:43:000:43:05

Thank you and good night.

0:43:050:43:07

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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