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Hello! | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Good evening, good evening, good evening, good evening, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
and welcome to QI, where tonight we're on lethal form. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Let's meet the death-defying Sandi Toksvig. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
The death-denying Jason Manford. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
The death-dealing Bill Bailey. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
And the drop-dead-gorgeous, Alan Davies. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
At least one out of 100 has to be complimentary. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
-That was very kind. -Yeah. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
Now, slay me with your buzzers. Sandi goes... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
MACHINE GUN FIRE | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
Jason goes... | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
HEAVY GUNFIRE | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
-Wow! -Wow! -Bill goes... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:20 | |
EXPLOSION | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
And Alan goes... | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
CHILD'S VOICE: Bang, bang, you're dead! | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
Very good. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
So, before we start, I have to remind you | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
we have in this series a Spend A Penny round, because... | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
CASH REGISTER | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Exactly. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:45 | |
Because L stands for lavatory, | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
one of the answers will involve lavatories in one form or another. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:52 | |
All things lavatorial. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
So, if you do spot a lavatory lurking anywhere, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
play your joker and if you're right, I'll give you some points. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
What could be fairer than that? | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
Now, I'm going to hand out some bags, can you take one | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
-and give one to Jason, Sandi, there? -Thank you. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
And you've got yours, I think, already, haven't you? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
Now, you should have a bottle with a cork in it, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
and I want you, using the bag and the bottle | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
to get the cork out of the bottle. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
You can't break the bottle, obviously. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:14 | |
Are these...? These are the ones we use when we go dog walking. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
Yes, they are, they're pooper scooper ones, exactly. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
-Are they? -Yeah. But they haven't been used, I promise you. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
No, obviously. I was going to use the penny. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
The people near me have started... Does this happen to anyone else? | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
They pick it up, put it in the bag and then hang it on a tree. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
Does that happen...? They just leave it hanging on a tree! | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Like a Christmas decoration! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
Like a really shit Christmas tree - literally. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-I think that's a Salford thing, Jason. -I think so! | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Ooh. I say, Sandi's looking promising. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
That's definitely the right idea, is to blow down the bag, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
but I think we need a little bit more down the bottle. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
Or as much of it as you can get. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
You might use your pen to push, as long as you don't tear the bag. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
BILL: Oh, this is exciting. I don't know what I'm doing. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
No. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
Oi, that's my catchphrase! | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-Come in here, rob my phrase.... -I'm just copying what Sandi's doing. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Oh, Sandi, Sandi, yeah. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:04 | |
Line it up, if you can line it up, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
it's going to go, I think. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
If you can, it's so close. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
-Oh! -Oh! -Look, we'll show you. One of our researchers, Zara, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
she managed to do it and we shot her doing it, so have a look. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
-You shot her?! -You shot her! | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
Watch, there she goes. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
If you succeed, we will have to shoot you. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
There, there she goes. She's just blown up it. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
A little bit. There it goes. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
There. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
Well done, Zara. Now... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
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Oh, wait a minute. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:35 | |
-Oh, oh, nearly. -Oh, nearly. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
You didn't blow enough to provide enough suction, that's the key. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
You have to get the bag... | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring, blow in the bag. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
Blow in the bag, we used to blow in the bag. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
We'll soon get it out, Mr Mainwaring. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
We'll blow in the bag. Don't worry, Mr Mainwaring! | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
I think Stephen, it's there... | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
-You've got it? -This is brilliant! | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
-Don't panic, we'll blow in the bag sir! -See if you can pull. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
I don't know what I'm doing. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Oh, yeah. We don't want to stretch the... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
I think it's there. You've got it. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
Yes! | 0:04:01 | 0:04:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Oh, well done. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Brilliant. Now... | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
No, you haven't got the pressure there. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
OK, pop them away. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
BOTTLE CLANKS | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
That's very much one way to do it. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
No, it can't be done. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
But what's really interesting about this is | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
how will this save possibly millions of lives, this trick? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
It's not to do with the stent thing, is it? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
When they blow up a little balloon into your... | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
No, it's not, it's... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
People getting corks trapped. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
That's not going to save that many lives. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
-It might save a lot of distress. -Yes, that's what I mean. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
To people who want the cork out of a bottle, but it's not really... | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Is it the inside of the penis, can we just clear that up? | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
-Oh! -No, it isn't. -Is it up the bum hole? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
-No! -In the ear? -In the ear hole? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
-People sticking corks in their ear. -No. This... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Is it a common condition? | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
It is, in the Third World especially, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
a very common condition and one that causes millions of deaths a year. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
And that's childbirth fatalities, because of breach births, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
and being stuck and so on. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
And it took an Argentinian mechanic, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
who saw a video clip of the trick. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
His name was Jorge Odon, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
and he thought, what would be really good... | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
His name was Corkay? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
No, Jorge. He was called Jorge. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
George in Spanish. I like that idea, his name was Corky. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
Corky Odon. And he thought that would work on babies. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
-Already a sucker is used. -Yes, but I just want to be clear. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
So, you're having trouble giving birth, and a mechanic comes along | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
-with a plastic bag... -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Pushes it in and then goes, "I'm just going to blow." | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
That's pretty much... | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-Don't worry, I've seen a video. -It'll be fine. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
-That's exactly... -Seen it on YouTube. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
And the obstetrician he showed it to | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
thought that he was on some hidden camera show and that it was a trick | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
and that he was going to be made an idiot of. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
But he realised that it was a fantastic idea. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Cos before then they... Do you know the device that is used | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
to try and pull babies out? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
-Oh, the forceps. -Well, the forceps is the really old one, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
but the more common one now is the one on the right. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
It's a sort of a sucker thing. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
It is a sucker, but it has a particular name. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
AUDIENCE SHOUT SUGGESTIONS | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
Ventouse. What's the other one being shouted? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
-Kiwi. -You call it a kiwi? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Yeah. We're student midwives. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
-Oh, really? Well, then we bow to your superior knowledge. -Yes. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Midwifery is a good thing. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
Midwifery, it sounds a bit like a sort of | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
not very noxious fart, doesn't it? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Sort of mid whiffery. Jolly. It... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Can I just say, Stephen, you were, up until then, being so sensitive. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
Yeah. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
"Your job sounds like a fart!" | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
Odon's method inserts a plastic bag, just as you said, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
into the birth canal, under the baby's chin. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
Air is then pumped in, inflating the bag gently around the baby's head. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
There's no danger of suffocation. Why is that? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Because they're not breathing yet. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Because babies don't breathe in the womb, exactly. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
The baby is then safely pulled out | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
without the damage of bleeding forceps. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
And we can see that. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
-Not in real life. -All right, yes. -Phew. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
There you go, and that's the suction power | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
is on a little calibrated thing, you see. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
Then you, again, take it away and it's exactly the same principle. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
FROM AUDIENCE: It's inconceivable! | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
Thank you. I hope... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Thank you. Out, out! | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
I think you've rather misunderstood | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
the role of audience intervention here. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
But the way that the device goes around the baby's head, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
very, very similar to the way the chameleon gets its prey. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
-Its prey, yes. -You know? | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
Because the tongue is actually, sort of... | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
It subsumes the prey and goes round it and then... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Perhaps you could train a chameleon. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
To give birth! | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
Just hold one up to the appropriate area. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
That's a brilliant idea. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
I feel sorry for this woman who's already said no to the engineer | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
and then Bill Bailey turns up... | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
"What about the chameleon?" | 0:07:48 | 0:07:49 | |
-Well... -She might not be able to see the chameleon | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-if he's been hanging around for a while. -That's true. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
That would take the stress out of it, it just looks like your arm. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
That's true, yeah. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
Oh, what's this? Oh, it's just, it's just a patterned shirt. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
Yeah, it's fine. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:02 | |
And then it runs up a tree with it. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Yeah. That is a disadvantage. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Then it gets raised as a chameleon. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
-That's not a bad thing. -Yeah. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Everything you said about this, "Why a mechanic?" | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
As Dr Merialdi of the World Health Organization said, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
with 5.6 million babies a year dying, he said, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
for many years, almost centuries, nothing has advanced | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
in medical science in terms of the delivery of babies, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
which is a natural process, but it is also a mechanical process. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
So perhaps it's not surprising that it's a mechanic | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
who saw a way through to easing it. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
-I love it cos it's so simple. -It is so simple! | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
It's kind of palm-smacking, isn't it? A lot of doctors | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
and obstetricians would have thought, "Wow." | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
One of the great advantages is that throughout the Third World | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
midwives and nurses can use it without the presence of a doctor. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
It's an incredibly simple technique and very, very cheap | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
as long as you sterilise everything, obviously, which you would anyway. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-So, good news. -Well done, Corky! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
A car mechanic, there, from Argentina | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
will save millions of lives with the cork-in-the-bottle trick. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
Suggest some lethal uses for a laptop? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Oh, some lethal... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
-Smart bombs, guiding smart bombs. -Yeah. -Drones. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Hitting people over the head. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
-AS KEIFER SUTHERLAND: -Damn it, Chloe! | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:15 | |
That was like he was in the room. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
Thank you. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
I just happen to have been working with him, that's all. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
-Oh, please. -Is he nice? Please tell me he's nice. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
He's an incredibly nice guy. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
He really is, everyone adores him on the set. Kiefer, this is. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-Keefa? -Keefa, yeah. -Keefa. -Keefa. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
-Keefa, you know. -Oh, Keefa. Oh, yes. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:33 | |
-What's he talking about? -Anyway, he's always on laptops. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
I don't know what you're talking about. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
-My favourite one is when he talks about... -24. -Oh, 24, oh. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
When he talks about parabolics. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
-Parabolics. -Where are the parabolics? | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
I'm like, "Are you saying pair of bollocks?" | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
That's what it sounds like. Parabolics. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
Is it still going, then, 24? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
Yes. I'm in it, I played the British Prime Minister. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
What kind of Prime Minister were you? Were you sage? | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
Well, it was non-specified in terms of party. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
Oh. But were you very sage? | 0:09:58 | 0:09:59 | |
Like almost every Prime Minister we've had for the last 20 years! | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Is it really over-the-top London, though, is it like, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
"Chloe, I forgot my Oyster card!" | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
-Is it all that? -It is all shot in London. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
"I'm at Spitting Fields!" | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
"There are engineering works! | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
"I'm on a bus replacement service! | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
"Follow me on the satellite! | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
"The driver hasn't got a clue where he's going! | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
"What's the best way from Kensal Rise to Ladbroke Grove? | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
"You can't use the Harrow Road!" | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
I've forgotten what the question was. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
Yes, well, lethal uses for a laptop. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
Oh, right, so hitting people over the head. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
You can leave it on the rear parcel shelf of a car | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
-and you stop too quickly, then, you know. -Yeah. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
I know this because I went to one of those speed awareness courses, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:04 | |
and there's this ex-copper, and he was trying to scare everyone, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
and he went, "Yes, this lady, lady driver, had a laptop computer, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:14 | |
"a laptop computer on the back... | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
Mel Smith was in the room for a second. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
It was, yeah, it was. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
He talked like that, he went, "Laptop computer, on the back." | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
It's very Mel Smith. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
"On the back shelf, and she stopped too quickly, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
"took her head clean off. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
"Took her head clean off, like a knife through butter." | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It's always clean off, isn't it? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
And there was a dear old lady next to me, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
who'd been caught doing 31mph in a built-up area... | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
On a tiny little scooter thing. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:41 | |
Yeah, on a mobility scooter. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-I can't stop! -I can't hold it! | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-You'll have to go to a workshop. -Yeah. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
And she grabbed my hand, she went, "Oh, my God!" | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Like that. But, of course, I can't imagine it. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
No, actually, we're in Australia | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
and it's a programme that's written on a computer. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
-A virus. -It's nothing to do with the Wi-Fi, is it? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
-Do they not... -No, no. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
It's a specific programme written by a specific person, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
in order to help someone do something that will end their lives. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
-Is it some euthanasia thing? -It's a euthanasia programme, yes. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
There's an Australian doctor, called Dr Death - obviously, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
-as they always are - and he's rigged up this... -Death machine. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
..injection system to a laptop | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
and you have to answer three questions. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
You have to be sane and smart enough | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
to answer the three questions, yes, positively. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
-Do you know what they are? -Yes, I have them for you. -OK. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
"One - are you aware that if you go ahead to the last screen | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
"and press the yes button, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
"you will be given a lethal dose of medications and die?" | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
So, they're not difficult questions. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-No. -Also, I... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
I thought it was going to be things like, you know... | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
-What year was the Battle of Crecy? -Yes. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
I scroll through a lot of these and just press accept. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
That would be my worry. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terms and conditions, I've read them. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Terms and conditions, terms and conditions. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
The second one is, "Are you certain you understand | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
"that if you proceed and press the yes button on the next screen | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
"that you will die?" | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
Wow. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
-That's just very clear. -Yeah. -Yeah. -So you press yes again. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-So does it then say, "Are you sure?" -On the third screen... | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-Are you sure? Come on now. -In 15 seconds... | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Have you seen the word "die"? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
..you will be given a lethal injection. Press yes to proceed. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
-It's that simple. -That's heavy, man. -Yeah. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
SANDI: And where do you get it, Amazon? | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
No. But... | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
I suppose if you've made the decision, then, you know, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
it's finding a... I found a very odd... | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
I didn't know this was a rule, recently, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
I always get headaches when I'm on tour, so I thought, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
"Well, I may as well just stock up on paracetamol," | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
cos I go through a couple a night. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
So, I tried to buy about 48 packets of paracetamol. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
No, no, no, no, no. That'll kill you. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Well, yeah, obviously I wasn't going to take them all at once, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-but obviously there's a rule. -They don't know that. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
You're only allowed... | 0:13:51 | 0:13:52 | |
But I just thought to myself, that's saving no-one, is it? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
No-one's got to that point and gone, "Oh, can I not? | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
"Oh, I'll stay alive then, thank you very much." | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
I go into a newsagents and order a bottle of vodka | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
and they give me a quarter one now. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Because they've heard things about me. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
Although, there was a moment when the woman embarrassed me | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
in front of a queue of people, where she said, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
"I can't sell you that many paracetamol." | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
And I went, "Oh, why? Why is that?" | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
And she said, "It's in case you kill yourself." | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
She said those words to me. And I, this was my panic, I went, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
"What? But there's a load of freezer stuff in there!" | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Like, that was my actual point. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Like, that was the logic, you know? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
Look in my trolley there, there's some long-life milk, why am I going? | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Why would I go? | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
Do you think I'm mad? Do you think I'd waste that? | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
There's some Findus crispy pancakes I'm looking forward to! | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
Yeah, there's a Solero in there, I've got so much to live for! | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
You want to look into that headache thing, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
it'll be caffeine-related, I expect. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
-You want to flush your system. -I'll do that. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
With vodka. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
I have to say, the only time I've had morphine was in Copenhagen. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
I had kidney stones, they gave me morphine. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
I should think so, it's the most painful thing. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
And my partner said it was so embarrassing because | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
I was just lying there going, "I'm filled with honey." | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
We had Jeremy Clarkson on and he was talking about kidney stones, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
said the most painful thing a human being could have. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
And someone said, "Erm, childbirth, I'll think you'll find." | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
And he said, "Ah, do we have anyone in the audience who has given birth | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
"to a child and had kidney stones?" | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
-And there was one person. -Course there is! -And he said, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
"Which was the most painful?" And she said kidney stones. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
-Do they zap them with something sonic? -They do now. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I was off my head, I've no idea what they did. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
I think they do, they dissolve them and then you pee them out. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
What you don't want is someone giving it, "Come here. Come here! | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
"Bend over!" | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Let's get this chameleon, let's line it up... | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
with your, er...entrance. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
Well, what about suicide booths, where do they exist? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Have you ever seen or heard of them? Soylent Green? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
A Harry Harrison novel that was a great movie. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
There are suicide booths there, used by Matt Groening | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
in Futurama, rather wonderfully. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
So what, you just pop in and kill yourself? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Yeah, there are three modes of death in Futurama - quick and painless, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
slow and horrible and clumsy bludgeoning. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
So what, you just put a 50p in or something? | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Yeah, that's the idea in science fiction, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
that people would want to do that. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
Euthanasia becomes not just a right, but a sort of...fuck it, you know? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:31 | |
-I like a photo booth, though. -Yes. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
They've got that retro, you know, Instamatic, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
Instagram type thing, you know? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
We've sort of gone reverse, cos the photo's getting so perfect, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
we've now got to a point where we go, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
"Get Instagram and make it a bit worse." | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
I'm going to do an app where you just put, like, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
your dad's thumb in the top corner. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
"Remember this?" | 0:16:49 | 0:16:50 | |
They used to say if you look like your passport photograph, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
you're probably not well enough to travel. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
That's a very good theory, I like that. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
The very first job I ever applied for in TV, it said you had to send in | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
your CV and your photograph, and traditionally in show business | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
it's a sort of 8x10, used to be an 8x10 rather glossy thing. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I didn't know that, I went to Victoria Station and, erm... | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
And the stool was stuck, erm, down low. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
So, honestly, I sent in a photograph of the top... | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
..of my head, and they thought it was a joke - so I got the job. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
Really?! | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
-APPLAUSE -Wow. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-There was an actors' directory, no longer used... -Spotlight. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
..called Spotlight, in which you had to give your photograph, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
and I remember Barry Humphries had a wonderful one, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
just a picture of him like that, not as Dame Edna but it just said, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
"Leather and denim roles preferred." | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
I used to try and put things in to see if they'd print them. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
Just out of sheer devilment. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Things like, "Can hover." | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
"Is magnetic." You know? | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
"I'm OK round chickens." | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
Just to see... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
But they never printed them, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-they probably just went, "Silly." -Silly! -"Silly man." | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
"Will hover on demand." | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
Anyway, yes, this happy little fellow is about to kill himself. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
How? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
Do you recognise that? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
-Is it a field mouse? -He's about to kill himself? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
He is, by doing something which nature impels him to do, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
-which is a suicidal thing to do. -Fling himself off a cliff. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-ALARM BELL -Oh, dear, oh, dear. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Throwing himself off a cliff, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
I thought, well, why not? We'll get that one out of the way. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
You thought it might be a lemming | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-and, anyway, lemmings don't, of course, but... -No, they don't. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
It's not a lemming, it's in fact not a rodent. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
-Is it not? -No. -Is it a squirrel? -Is it a marsupial? -Squirrel? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
It is a marsupial, yes, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
it's a bit of a convergent how-do-you-do, there. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
It's a marsupial, and it's called an antechinus. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Antechinus? Well, what are the natural things? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
It's either going to eat something or it's going to drink something. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
What do animals live to do? They live to eat in order to? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
-Procreate. -To survive long enough to procreate, to pass on their genes. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
So, is it some naughty sex thing that happens? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
It's about to have sex, and that is, for it, suicide. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
They go on an extraordinary shagging spree. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
I mean, it is quite, quite unbelievable. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
I have to give you the details, because they're pretty amazing. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
It's semelparous, which means it only does it once. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
And it's about 12 hours on the job | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
with one female before moving on to the next. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
It doesn't eat or sleep, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
it just keeps going in a testosterone-driven frenzy. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
Well, never mind about him - that poor female! | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Well, that's, then the next one, and the next one. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
12 hours! She must be chafed. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
To get the necessary energy, the males' bodies strip themselves | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
of all their vital proteins and suppress their immune systems. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
By the end of the fortnight, they are physiologically exhausted, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
bald, gangrenous, ravaged by stress and infection and keel over and die. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
Wow! | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
Russell Brand, take note! | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-It's pretty grim. -Wow. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
That sounds like Henry VIII at the end of his life, doesn't it? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
-It does, somewhat. It is, it is. -Does this happen only once, then? | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Yes, semelparous, once in Latin, semel is once. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
They're dead before the children arrive? | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
Very much so. And that, some people think, may be the reason... | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-Just to get out of childcare. -They can't bear the thought of it. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-Or, if you give it a better gloss, it's in order to... -Food. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
..leave more food for their children. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
So, it's 12 hours and then another 12 hours. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
-Yeah, yeah. And this lasts for a fortnight, apparently. Yeah. -Wow! | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
-A two-week mating season. -WOMAN LAUGHING | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
There's somebody in the audience | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
remembering her Spanish holiday over there. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
Ooh! | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
Magaluf, 1982. Oh. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Oh, that was a party. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
But they aren't the only marsupials with a suicidal sex drive, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
there's also marsupial cats, which have a wonderful name. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-Very good for Scrabble - quoll. -Quoll? -Q-U-O-L-L. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Very good Scrabble word. There's a little quoll. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
These are all Australian? | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
The female northerns, yes, are subjected by males | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
to bouts of copulation. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
It is put here they can last 24 hours, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
-with plenty of biting and screeching. -Oh, I say! | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
They soon get their own back, though. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
The post-coital males lose weight, become anaemic, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
their scrotums shrink, their fur falls out | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
-and they get infested with lice. -Oh, wow. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
Within a week or two they die | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
like their mousy cousins, martyrs to their genes. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
-Wow. Horrible. -It's grim, isn't it? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-It's grim down south. -Even if that was in humans, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
-I think most men would go, "Ah, may as well!" -Worth it! | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
"I'm here now!" | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
Worth it! What a day! | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
All the females are sitting around going, "Don't worry, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
"they'll be gone in a minute." | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
I presume they don't know it's going to happen to them. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
No, presumably they'd have no sense of the impending... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
There's no three questions. "If you have sex, you will die." | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-Because they never knew their father. -"Press yes." | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
"Are you sure you want sex?" "Yes!" | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
"Definitely?" "Oh, yes!" | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
"Here's a picture of somebody who's had sex." | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Their father, unfortunately, isn't there to tell them. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
-By definition. -"Don't do it!" | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
-So they are, they're railroaded into this. -Just programmed. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
-Self-destructive shagging frenzy. -Programmed. Deeply programmed. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Now, if you had to fight a duel, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
which weapon would you want your opponent to choose? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
A - Hot-air balloon? Would that please you? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
B - A billiard ball? C - A sword? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
Or D - A sausage? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:19 | |
-Sausages are fairly non-lethal. -You'd say sausage. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
I would think you could get terrible food poisoning from a sausage. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
If you had them in a string of sausages... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
I don't know how you'd use the hot-air balloon as an actual weapon | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
unless you land on somebody, I don't know how you would... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
The rules were, if you challenge someone to a duel, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
the person you challenge can choose the weapon and the place. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
So if you choose a balloon, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-you're choosing... -They'd be in the balloon? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
They can choose a gun and a balloon. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
You can pretty much work out what could therefore happen. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
And you would draw straws as to who shoots first. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
If they're not very good shots, the first one could miss. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
It would be a bit annoying if you had chosen guns and balloons | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
and then got the short straw and he got to shoot first. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
-You'd be like, "What's the point?" -Yes. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Although it's not a small target, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
it depends how far away it was, of course. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Well, we do have history on our side, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
so we can tell a story about the sausage. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:13 | |
There was a scientist, a very eminent scientist, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
who was rather liberal in his ways, who lived in Prussia, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
and who was the great leader of Prussia, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
who basically unified Germany and was the, what we would call | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
a prime minister, but he was the Minister President of Prussia. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
-Bismarck. -Von Bismarck, exactly. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
And this German pathologist, who was called Rudolf Virchow, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
so opposed the mighty armaments programme that Bismarck had started, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
that he enraged Bismarck who challenged him to a duel. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
So, because he got to choose, this doctor, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
who was the first man to isolate the pathogen | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
behind pork that had gone off, which is called Trichinella spiralis, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
said, "OK, the weapons will be sausages." | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
One of which would be poisonous, toxic, as you say, with this agent, | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
this pathogen, so he challenged him to a breakfast, essentially, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
and Bismarck didn't like the idea, so he called the whole thing off, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
which the challenger has the right to do. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
-So, it's a sausage roulette? -Yeah. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
Yeah, basically, sausage roulette. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
Yeah. But with only two. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
And so you had a 50/50 chance of dying, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
so that's a pretty dangerous duel, a sausage duel. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
So, moving from the sausage to the balloon. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
Monsieur Grandpre and Monsieur de Pique. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
We're going to get quite French, because you know what they're like. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
In 1808, there was a dispute between these two over the affections of a young woman. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
They took to the skies in separate hot air balloons, each armed with a Blunderbuss. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
De Pique shot first and missed. He had the first shot and he missed. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
It is a moment, isn't it? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:36 | |
Grandpre then fired at de Pique's balloon and punctured it, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
-sending him and his second down to their deaths. -Wow. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
2,000 feet above Paris. So, a balloon, pretty damned dangerous. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
The very first female air passenger ever was in a hot-air balloon - | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
Elisabeth Thible. She was an opera singer | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
and she was dressed as Minerva and sang arias from opera | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
-as she fed the fire and the balloon took off. -How wonderful! | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
Unfortunately, she landed and sprained her ankle, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
but other than that... | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
Yes, it's great. She was the very first female passenger. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
There's only one example of a billiard ball duel | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
that we've been able to discover | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and that took place between a Monsieur Lenfant | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
and a Monsieur Melfant. They fell out over a game of billiards, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
not surprisingly, and so they used what was to hand - billiard balls. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Presumably it was carom if they were French. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
And they decided to resolve their difference | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
by pelting each other one after the other with billiard balls. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Again, they drew straws to see who would throw first. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
And Melfant won and he warned his opponent he would kill him | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
with one single strike and he did. Straight between the eyes, dead. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
-Wow. -Wow. -Bloody hell. -God. -Yeah. That's, so that's... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
And he probably went, "I was joking!" | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
Yeah, exactly. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
"I didn't think I'd actually hit you." | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
-Why didn't they use the cue? Surely, that would have been a... -Yeah. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
So, of all the weapons we've described, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
probably the safest is the sword, because in duelling, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
all you have to do is get the... draw first blood, as the phrase is. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
So, you literally have to pink someone, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
just give them a little scratch | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
and it's called off by the second, "Oh, you got him." | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
So, there we are, duelling. | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
Now, why would you resupply your enemies with bullets | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
when they'd run out of them? How crazy is that? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
Seems silly, doesn't it? | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
-Or indeed a plastic spoon! -Unless they were... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-Keep it fair! -..fake bullets? -No, real bullets. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
There's your enemy, you desperately want to defeat them, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
they are running out of ammunition and you resupply them. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
-Are they bullets which explode when...? -Sabotage? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
-Are they sabotaged? -No. -Somebody else comes to attack us and... | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
They're good bullets. No, no, you don't make a deal with them. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
-Is it a sense of honour? -It's something so wonderful, I think, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
that should guide the British government | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and its policy on a particular issue, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
one that is very dear to me | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
and the nation who have this marvellous building | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
that I've had trouble pronouncing sometimes. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
-It's in the, em...Acropolis. -LAUGHTER | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
-Ah, yes, that's where the... -Where the Parthenon is, yes, yes. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
And it's the Parthenon we are discussing. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
So, Greece, let's go back almost 200 years. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
-Who ran Greece almost 200 years ago? -Turks? -Turks, the Ottoman Empire. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
And there was a big movement to free Greece, led by Greeks, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
but also by some Britons, notably Lord Byron, who died there. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Lord Byron, yes. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
And, by 1820, they had got quite a grip on the colonialists | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
and they'd pushed them all back up the Acropolis | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
and there they were in the Parthenon, that wonderful building. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
And...the Turks were firing and they ran out of shot. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
Now, the original builders of the Acropolis | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
were extraordinary architects | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
and they joined together these 70,000 pieces of marble | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
in a magnificent way. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
They put in sheets of lead to protect it | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
and bits of iron staple and lead | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
to keep connecting together the marble. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Then, in 1820, when the Ottomans were defending it, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
they started to use these lead sheets | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
to melt them down to make shot and the Greeks said, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
"We're not going to have that happen to the Parthenon!" | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Ah, so give them bullets to stop them doing it? | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
To stop them destroying the building they loved so much, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
that meant Athens to them. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
And if that story doesn't make the British government | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
get off its arse and give back the Elgin marbles, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
I don't know what will. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
If we do that, do we have to give back everything else, as well? | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
-No! No! -Because we've got lots of stuff, haven't we? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
That's the slippery slope fallacy, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
it's the first fallacy of logic and it just doesn't play. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
Anyway, yes, that's basically it. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:21 | |
I didn't give you much of a chance to come in on that, did I? | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
But it's a good story, it was worth telling. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
-I like it when you're passionate on a subject. -Thank you. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
But isn't it a wonderful story about human beings, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
that even in the face of death that we revere beauty and great art | 0:28:31 | 0:28:36 | |
-more than ourselves? I think that's marvellous. -It is wonderful. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Absolutely wonderful, I agree. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
Right, now, let's go to real beauty and real splendour. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
Why was a pint of best in 19th-century Norfolk | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
just what the doctor ordered? | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
Oh. Has it got something medicinal in it? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
It sure has. Poppies. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Heroin. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:57 | |
Not heroin, heroin wasn't discovered... | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
"A pint of your heroin beer, please." | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Not heroin, but opium. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
It's no wonder Norfolk has kept to itself. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
Heroin needs a little bit more chemical skill | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
than they were able to show in Fenland. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-Bit more Breaking Bad. -Yes, basically. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
And they had been having this stuff for ages and ages and ages, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
and then, in the 19th century, laudanum became very popular. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Laudanum is a tincture of a small amount of opium with alcohol. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:23 | |
Queen Victoria loved it, and they loved it in the Fens. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
And they had it with beer, so they'd have poppy stuff in their beer. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
There was a period called 'the Great Binge', and it was really from, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
sort of, 1880s to the outbreak of the First World War, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
and the banning of absinthe in France. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
-What a time to be alive! -Yes. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
And, as I say, Queen Victoria was addicted to laudanum, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
she'd have laudanum every night. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
To be wealthy and idle in the Great Binge. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
Yes. It was something. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:49 | |
You're talking about Wetherspoons right now, aren't you? Yeah. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:53 | |
In our time, you could get kaolin and morphine perfectly easily. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
Yes, supposedly to cure diarrhoea. You could also buy, in Boots, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
liquid aniseed and you may say, "What's the point of that?" | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
It was a fabulous trick. You know catnip for cats? | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
Everyone knows how cats behave when you have catnip. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Dogs behave like that to liquid aniseed, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
so you would sprinkle it on your trouser legs | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
and see these little old ladies being pulled along the street. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:14 | 0:30:15 | |
They'd fly after your trousers. It was quite extraordinary. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
While you were completely off your head on kaolin and morphine. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
-Ahh, those were the days. -JASON: Good times, good times. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
-Was this a private education you were receiving? -Yes. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
And I don't recommend it. Anyway, in Fenland | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
they drank a lot of beer with their own poppies in it. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Basically, Norfolk and Lincolnshire consumed | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
-over five and a half tonnes a year. -Wow. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
Which was, basically, more than the whole country put together. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
-Wow. -Good God. -Yeah. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
Do you think it hindered the development of the region? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
It might have done. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:45 | |
It was known as "stuff" or "best" and, basically, it did destroy... | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
Got any stuff? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:50 | |
Yes. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
In the 19th-century, being an opium addict was normal for Norfolk. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
Nowadays, we're told that even sugar is a deadly poison. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
But are sugar-free sweets good for you? | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
Oh, they give you the runs! | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
Honestly, if you are at all stuffed-up, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
two sugar-free sweets, you'll be singing. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
I don't know why. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
Well, I ought to warn you that | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
-you have missed your Spend A Penny chance, that was it. -Oh. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
Because it's all about going... | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
-Well, it's too late now. -Oh, yes, of course. -Never mind. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
It's lycasin, which can have a mildly | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
or moderately laxative effect. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
That's if you take a few of them. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
On the Amazon page where they sell sugar-free Haribo Gummy Bears, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
it clearly warns, "May cause stomach discomfort | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
"and/or a laxative effect." | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
The same page has over 250 comments. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
"Stomach discomfort turns out to be a massive understatement!" | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
"Gastrointestinal Armageddon!" | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
"Calamitous flatulence." | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
"Trumpets calling the demons back from hell." | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
That's the noise, exactly. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
-I'm just adding some noises to the story. -Yeah. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
"Guttural pronouncement so loud, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | |
"it threatened to drown out my own voice." | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
And "flammable liquid Napalm extruding." | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Those are some of the milder comments. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
I've never known anything like it. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
I got some butterscotch sweets, and I honestly had two | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
and I thought it was a good way to help me lose weight, and it did. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Absolutely. Yeah. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I once tried to figure out how many gummy bears | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
you could put into a remote-control helicopter | 0:32:29 | 0:32:31 | |
before you, you know, would compromise its airborne stability. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
-And? -You know those little tiny ones? | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Oh, the little, tiny, miniature ones! | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
The tiny miniature helicopters that can hover. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
I put one gummy bear in it as the pilot | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
and it crashed immediately. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
-One! They're so... -Such a delicate aerodynamic set-up. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
-Very delicate aerodynamics, yeah. -Wow! | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Yeah, I say I put it in the pilot seat and it went over like that, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
whereas I should have put one on each rail | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
and then it would have been fine. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
I know that now. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:05 | |
-But thanks for passing it on. -Yeah, no, that's fine. -Good. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
And now for the lethal concoction of toxic misapprehension | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
and venomous disinformation that we call General Ignorance. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
So, fingers on buzzers, if you please. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
Name a non-venomous snake. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
-EXPLOSION -Yes? | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
The grass snake. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
-ALARM BELL -Oh! -What? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
We thought you might say that. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Well, clearly! | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
Somebody's very quick on the typing, otherwise. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:34 | |
Are they all venomous but just not very? | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
Yes. All snakes are venomous. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
A recent discovery by a man you know you can trust because of his name, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
he's called Professor Brian Fry, of the University... | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
No, he isn't. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:47 | |
-AUSTRALIAN ACCENT: -University of Queensland. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
And in 2013, | 0:33:49 | 0:33:50 | |
he showed that even snakes that kill by constriction have venom in them | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
and it's been re-purposed to create a sort of lubricant | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
to help swallow the huge things that constrictors swallow. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
But it still contains small quantities of venom. Fry comments... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
"Fry comments," I find that very odd, saying that. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
Their toxins are the equivalent of a kiwi's wing | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
or the sightless eyes of a blind cavefish - | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
defunct remnants of a functional past. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
And he showed that the world's largest lizard, which is...? | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-Komodo dragon. -Komodo. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:17 | |
The Komodo dragon, yes, kills its prey with venom, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
which we all thought beforehand that it was killed with sort of bacteria, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
that it just basically bit it and it had such disgusting slobber | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
that the thing caught infections. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
-Yeah, but they actually envenomate. -It seems so, yeah. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
The small fangs at the rear of a grass snake's mouth | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
do actually spit out at you and they'll hiss and they'll strike, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
and you will get a small itchy infection. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
-Envenomation, as you say. -Right. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
So, there you are. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
That's weird and surprising, there are no non-venomous snakes. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
They all have venom glands. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
How fast was the fastest mass extinction? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
-How many years? I'll give you... -EXPLOSION | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
The Liberal Democrats! | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:53 | 0:34:55 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
-So, about two weeks, then? -Two weeks! Ukip. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
Ukip are like Top Gear for people that don't like cars. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-That's very good. -Thousands? Are we talking thousands? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
-Thousands of years. -Thousands? Oh. -Yes, thousands. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
It happened 252 million years ago, the ending of the Permian period. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
It's known as The Great Dying. Sounds rather Star Trek, doesn't it? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:25 | |
-The Great Dying. -So, what? Sort of 5,000 years? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
60,000 years. Three score thousand years. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
But there have been about three of these mass extinctions? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Five. Well, yeah, supposedly we're in the sixth. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
We are in one at the moment. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:36 | |
I mean, forget global warming, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
just simply by the way we're destroying habitats. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Either eating them or running them over. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
Or simply just competing for space and not giving... | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
You know, monocultures and biodiversity. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
But it's a staggering number a day, isn't it? | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
A huge number day. It's horrifying. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
Now, Alan, would you take a bullet for me? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Yes, Stephen, of course. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
Aw, thank you. Very good. | 0:35:58 | 0:35:59 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
ALARMS BELLS Wow! | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
-Sorry, no. No, I wouldn't. -No, no. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:08 | |
No, you wouldn't, because you couldn't. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
I mean, that's to say, in the standard way it's done, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
the "No-o-o-o!" | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
The diving in front of someone, you can't take a bullet for someone. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
Well, you'd have to anticipate, I presume. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
You'd have to anticipate in such an incredible way. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
-Accidental, you know, act of... -Accidental, it would. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Because, of course, a bullet goes at 1,000 feet per second. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
That's from a hand gun. 700mph that is. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
Did you know...? I read this. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
You might like this because you like cricket. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
They've stopped using bowling machines | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
because they've discovered that it doesn't help you at all, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
that the people who are very good at batting | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
have worked it out before the ball is released | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
by the shape and the angle of the arm of the bowler. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
Their anticipation is that much quicker, | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
so it's actually of no use to you to practise with a machine, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
you must practise with people, so you're trained... | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
-Trained to see the arm. -Seeing the person coming at you | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
-over and over and over. -So, the notion that the Secret Service | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
are going to throw themselves in front of the President is just silly? | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Well, it has happened. It happened in the case of John Hinckley | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
who had a pop at Ronald Reagan in 1981. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
-No-o-o! -That's it, exactly. It has to... | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
This is how I would do it. I wouldn't use my head. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
No, very sensible. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:13 | |
-I'd use my arse. -Your arse, yeah. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
Or my leg. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:18 | |
Yeah. Yeah, I would use, I would use that. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
-I would use Bill. -Yeah. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
I'd get it out for you, Alan. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-I'm taking that bag home with me! -A supplementary question, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
why do people fall over when they've been shot? | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Because they've just been shot. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
ALARM BELLS | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Aww! | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
No, is the answer. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
Shock. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Cos they're dead? | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
-A dead person would fall over, obviously. -Eventually. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
Whether they'd been shot in any way... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Is it not the speed, like, the speed and the impact, no? | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
No, none of those things will knock you over. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
-ALARM BELLS -What? | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
Unbelievable. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:04 | |
"The impact!" | 0:38:04 | 0:38:06 | |
What a band. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
I banged my head on the fireplace the other day and I fell over. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
-That would do it. -Wait, wait, is this a lavatory question? | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
No, we've already had one. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
-Oh, no, I don't know. -Because they've seen it done in movies. -Really? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
So, in the Wild West, when they had a shoot-out | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
and cos they'd never seen a cowboy film, | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
people just carried on standing. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-Most people when they're shot don't know they've been shot. -Right. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
We have it on the authority of the FBI Academy Firearms Training Unit | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
that people generally do fall down when shot, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
but only when they know they have. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
-That's the point. -Right. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:37 | |
Regardless of bullet calibre or where they're hit, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
people who've been shot and don't know it yet don't fall over. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Unless you were shot and your leg was shot off, and then you would... | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
If it was shot off, you would naturally, yeah. Exactly. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
There are circumstances in which you can fall over. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
But books, films and TV have educated us | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
-that we are supposed to fall down, that's why. -Right. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
Now, is it wrong to eat people? | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
-Oh! -I think it's wrong... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
-Undergraduate philosophy class, this, isn't it? -Yes, isn't it, yeah. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
It depends on the circumstances. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
It would not have been wrong to eat Hitler, I would argue. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
I think it's wrong to eat this one. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
-Yeah. -Unless that's Hitler. -Yeah. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Ah, well, yeah. That's a very good ethical point. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Are you saying there are some circumstances where...? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
-Well, cannibalism is not illegal in Britain. -Is it not? | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Murder is, so to kill someone in order to eat them | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
-is obviously illegal. -It is frowned upon. Dealt with by magistrates. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-If I had to lose a liver, I mean, sorry, not a liver... -A kidney. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
-A kidney, yeah. -Don't lose your liver. -How many livers have you got? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
A liver transplant, maybe. I might give my old liver to someone | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
and say, "By all means fry it up with some onions if you want to." | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
-Oh, wow. -Well, you can eat placenta, can't you? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
-Placenta is commonly fried after, yeah. -Yes. -Absolutely. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
There's a special fork that, for cannibalism, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
there's a three-pronged fork | 0:39:48 | 0:39:49 | |
and I've always thought that if you saw one laid on a table | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
when you'd been invited, it probably... | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
-That's the time to move away. -Yeah. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
-So, it's technically not illegal to eat anyone? -No. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
And so, if you were to, you know, at a funeral, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
just have a little nibble of a toe or something. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
Well, you'd definitely need permission. As with anything. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
Why hasn't anyone started, you know, in times of a recession, going, | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
"Do you know what? I hardly walk anyway, so..." | 0:40:11 | 0:40:14 | |
Absolutely. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
"Just have the left one." | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
There are people in the recession who hardly walk! | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
That's a bad one, isn't it? | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
That is a really bad recession. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
Can't even walk now. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
In Germany, in 2003, you may remember that case, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
there was a computer technician called Armin Meiwes... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
-Oh, that's right, yes. -..who conspired, as you might say, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
with a fellow engineer called Bernd Brandes | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
to sit down and eat with him. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Armin Meiwes cut off the penis of Bernd Brandes with his permission | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
and sat down to eat it with him. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
He then stabbed him and froze the corpse to eat later. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Brandes gave him explicit permission for the whole scenario. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
He originally asked Meiwes to bite off his penis. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
This proved difficult. Meiwes had to use a knife. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
He then tried to eat his own severed penis raw. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
-Oh, not raw! -Yeah. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
-Oh! -He found it too chewy. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
-Have you had it cooked? -Oh, the danger of infection from that! | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
I mean, really. "Oh, this is... No, this is raw." | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-"Give it another five on the grill." -Yeah. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
They fried it in salt, pepper, wine and garlic. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
-Oh, that's all right, then. -Yeah. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:21 | |
-"Little bit of curry powder on that?" -They tasted it | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
and agreed it was overdone, so fed it to the dog. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
He then killed Brandes and hung his body on a meat hook | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
and proceeded to eat it over the next ten months. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
He was found guilty of a sort of killing on demand, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
but was retried and convicted of murder. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
-Did he go to prison, or to some secure location? -I don't know. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
He was locked in a Happy Eater for the rest of his life. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
According to the law, eating people, or bits of people, is not wrong. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
Which brings me to the grisly business of the final scores, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
and how interesting they are. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
Way out... Well, not way out, but slightly last, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
I'm sorry to say, with minus 19, is Jason Manford. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Trailing clouds of glory in a very respectable third place, | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
-would you believe it, Alan Davies! -Thank you very much. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
Second, with minus eight, Bill Bailey. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
Minus eight. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Which can only mean that the winner is our token Dane, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
with plus six, Sandi Toksvig. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
And, with that, it's a big thank you and good night | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
from Sandi, Jason, Bill, Alan and me. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
And we leave you with the last words of the poet Richard Savage, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
who died in 1743. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
"I have something to say to you, sir... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
"No, 'tis gone." | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
Good night. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 |