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This programme contains some strong language.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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Hello!

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Good evening, good evening, good evening, good evening,

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and welcome to QI, where tonight we're on lethal form.

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Let's meet the death-defying Sandi Toksvig.

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APPLAUSE

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The death-denying Jason Manford.

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APPLAUSE

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The death-dealing Bill Bailey.

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APPLAUSE

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And the drop-dead-gorgeous, Alan Davies.

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APPLAUSE

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At least one out of 100 has to be complimentary.

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-That was very kind.

-Yeah.

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Now, slay me with your buzzers. Sandi goes...

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MACHINE GUN FIRE

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Jason goes...

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HEAVY GUNFIRE

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-Wow!

-Wow!

-Bill goes...

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EXPLOSION

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And Alan goes...

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CHILD'S VOICE: Bang, bang, you're dead!

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LAUGHTER

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Very good.

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APPLAUSE

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So, before we start, I have to remind you

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we have in this series a Spend A Penny round, because...

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CASH REGISTER

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Exactly.

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Because L stands for lavatory,

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one of the answers will involve lavatories in one form or another.

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All things lavatorial.

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So, if you do spot a lavatory lurking anywhere,

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play your joker and if you're right, I'll give you some points.

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What could be fairer than that?

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Now, I'm going to hand out some bags, can you take one

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-and give one to Jason, Sandi, there?

-Thank you.

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And you've got yours, I think, already, haven't you?

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Now, you should have a bottle with a cork in it,

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and I want you, using the bag and the bottle

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to get the cork out of the bottle.

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You can't break the bottle, obviously.

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Are these...? These are the ones we use when we go dog walking.

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Yes, they are, they're pooper scooper ones, exactly.

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-Are they?

-Yeah. But they haven't been used, I promise you.

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No, obviously. I was going to use the penny.

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The people near me have started... Does this happen to anyone else?

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They pick it up, put it in the bag and then hang it on a tree.

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Does that happen...? They just leave it hanging on a tree!

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Like a Christmas decoration!

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Like a really shit Christmas tree - literally.

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-I think that's a Salford thing, Jason.

-I think so!

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Ooh. I say, Sandi's looking promising.

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That's definitely the right idea, is to blow down the bag,

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but I think we need a little bit more down the bottle.

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Or as much of it as you can get.

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You might use your pen to push, as long as you don't tear the bag.

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BILL: Oh, this is exciting. I don't know what I'm doing.

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No.

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Oi, that's my catchphrase!

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-Come in here, rob my phrase....

-I'm just copying what Sandi's doing.

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Oh, Sandi, Sandi, yeah.

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Line it up, if you can line it up,

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it's going to go, I think.

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If you can, it's so close.

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-Oh!

-Oh!

-Look, we'll show you. One of our researchers, Zara,

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she managed to do it and we shot her doing it, so have a look.

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-You shot her?!

-You shot her!

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Watch, there she goes.

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If you succeed, we will have to shoot you.

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There, there she goes. She's just blown up it.

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A little bit. There it goes.

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There.

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Well done, Zara. Now...

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APPLAUSE

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Oh, wait a minute.

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-Oh, oh, nearly.

-Oh, nearly.

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You didn't blow enough to provide enough suction, that's the key.

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You have to get the bag...

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Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring, blow in the bag.

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Blow in the bag, we used to blow in the bag.

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We'll soon get it out, Mr Mainwaring.

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We'll blow in the bag. Don't worry, Mr Mainwaring!

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I think Stephen, it's there...

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-You've got it?

-This is brilliant!

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-Don't panic, we'll blow in the bag sir!

-See if you can pull.

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I don't know what I'm doing.

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Oh, yeah. We don't want to stretch the...

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I think it's there. You've got it.

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Yes!

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APPLAUSE

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Oh, well done.

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Brilliant. Now...

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No, you haven't got the pressure there.

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OK, pop them away.

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BOTTLE CLANKS

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APPLAUSE

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That's very much one way to do it.

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No, it can't be done.

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But what's really interesting about this is

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how will this save possibly millions of lives, this trick?

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It's not to do with the stent thing, is it?

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When they blow up a little balloon into your...

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No, it's not, it's...

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People getting corks trapped.

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That's not going to save that many lives.

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-It might save a lot of distress.

-Yes, that's what I mean.

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To people who want the cork out of a bottle, but it's not really...

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Is it the inside of the penis, can we just clear that up?

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-Oh!

-No, it isn't.

-Is it up the bum hole?

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-No!

-In the ear?

-In the ear hole?

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-People sticking corks in their ear.

-No. This...

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Is it a common condition?

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It is, in the Third World especially,

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a very common condition and one that causes millions of deaths a year.

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And that's childbirth fatalities, because of breach births,

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and being stuck and so on.

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And it took an Argentinian mechanic,

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who saw a video clip of the trick.

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His name was Jorge Odon,

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and he thought, what would be really good...

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His name was Corkay?

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No, Jorge. He was called Jorge.

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George in Spanish. I like that idea, his name was Corky.

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Corky Odon. And he thought that would work on babies.

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-Already a sucker is used.

-Yes, but I just want to be clear.

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So, you're having trouble giving birth, and a mechanic comes along

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-with a plastic bag...

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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Pushes it in and then goes, "I'm just going to blow."

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That's pretty much...

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-Don't worry, I've seen a video.

-It'll be fine.

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-That's exactly...

-Seen it on YouTube.

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And the obstetrician he showed it to

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thought that he was on some hidden camera show and that it was a trick

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and that he was going to be made an idiot of.

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But he realised that it was a fantastic idea.

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Cos before then they... Do you know the device that is used

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to try and pull babies out?

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-Oh, the forceps.

-Well, the forceps is the really old one,

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but the more common one now is the one on the right.

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It's a sort of a sucker thing.

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It is a sucker, but it has a particular name.

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AUDIENCE SHOUT SUGGESTIONS

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Ventouse. What's the other one being shouted?

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-Kiwi.

-You call it a kiwi?

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Yeah. We're student midwives.

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-Oh, really? Well, then we bow to your superior knowledge.

-Yes.

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Midwifery is a good thing.

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Midwifery, it sounds a bit like a sort of

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not very noxious fart, doesn't it?

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LAUGHTER

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Sort of mid whiffery. Jolly. It...

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Can I just say, Stephen, you were, up until then, being so sensitive.

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Yeah.

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"Your job sounds like a fart!"

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Odon's method inserts a plastic bag, just as you said,

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into the birth canal, under the baby's chin.

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Air is then pumped in, inflating the bag gently around the baby's head.

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There's no danger of suffocation. Why is that?

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Because they're not breathing yet.

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Because babies don't breathe in the womb, exactly.

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The baby is then safely pulled out

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without the damage of bleeding forceps.

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And we can see that.

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-Not in real life.

-All right, yes.

-Phew.

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There you go, and that's the suction power

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is on a little calibrated thing, you see.

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Then you, again, take it away and it's exactly the same principle.

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FROM AUDIENCE: It's inconceivable!

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Thank you. I hope...

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Thank you. Out, out!

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I think you've rather misunderstood

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the role of audience intervention here.

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But the way that the device goes around the baby's head,

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very, very similar to the way the chameleon gets its prey.

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-Its prey, yes.

-You know?

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Because the tongue is actually, sort of...

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It subsumes the prey and goes round it and then...

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Perhaps you could train a chameleon.

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To give birth!

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Just hold one up to the appropriate area.

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That's a brilliant idea.

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I feel sorry for this woman who's already said no to the engineer

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and then Bill Bailey turns up...

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"What about the chameleon?"

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-Well...

-She might not be able to see the chameleon

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-if he's been hanging around for a while.

-That's true.

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That would take the stress out of it, it just looks like your arm.

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That's true, yeah.

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Oh, what's this? Oh, it's just, it's just a patterned shirt.

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Yeah, it's fine.

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And then it runs up a tree with it.

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Yeah. That is a disadvantage.

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Then it gets raised as a chameleon.

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-That's not a bad thing.

-Yeah.

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Everything you said about this, "Why a mechanic?"

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As Dr Merialdi of the World Health Organization said,

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with 5.6 million babies a year dying, he said,

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for many years, almost centuries, nothing has advanced

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in medical science in terms of the delivery of babies,

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which is a natural process, but it is also a mechanical process.

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So perhaps it's not surprising that it's a mechanic

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who saw a way through to easing it.

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-I love it cos it's so simple.

-It is so simple!

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It's kind of palm-smacking, isn't it? A lot of doctors

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and obstetricians would have thought, "Wow."

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One of the great advantages is that throughout the Third World

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midwives and nurses can use it without the presence of a doctor.

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It's an incredibly simple technique and very, very cheap

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as long as you sterilise everything, obviously, which you would anyway.

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-So, good news.

-Well done, Corky!

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A car mechanic, there, from Argentina

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will save millions of lives with the cork-in-the-bottle trick.

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Suggest some lethal uses for a laptop?

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Oh, some lethal...

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-Smart bombs, guiding smart bombs.

-Yeah.

-Drones.

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Hitting people over the head.

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-AS KEIFER SUTHERLAND:

-Damn it, Chloe!

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-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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That was like he was in the room.

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Thank you.

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I just happen to have been working with him, that's all.

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-Oh, please.

-Is he nice? Please tell me he's nice.

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He's an incredibly nice guy.

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He really is, everyone adores him on the set. Kiefer, this is.

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-Keefa?

-Keefa, yeah.

-Keefa.

-Keefa.

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-Keefa, you know.

-Oh, Keefa. Oh, yes.

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-What's he talking about?

-Anyway, he's always on laptops.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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-My favourite one is when he talks about...

-24.

-Oh, 24, oh.

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When he talks about parabolics.

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-Parabolics.

-Where are the parabolics?

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I'm like, "Are you saying pair of bollocks?"

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That's what it sounds like. Parabolics.

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Is it still going, then, 24?

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Yes. I'm in it, I played the British Prime Minister.

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What kind of Prime Minister were you? Were you sage?

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Well, it was non-specified in terms of party.

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Oh. But were you very sage?

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Like almost every Prime Minister we've had for the last 20 years!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Is it really over-the-top London, though, is it like,

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"Chloe, I forgot my Oyster card!"

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-Is it all that?

-It is all shot in London.

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"I'm at Spitting Fields!"

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"There are engineering works!

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"I'm on a bus replacement service!

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"Follow me on the satellite!

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"The driver hasn't got a clue where he's going!

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"What's the best way from Kensal Rise to Ladbroke Grove?

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"You can't use the Harrow Road!"

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APPLAUSE

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I've forgotten what the question was.

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Yes, well, lethal uses for a laptop.

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Oh, right, so hitting people over the head.

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You can leave it on the rear parcel shelf of a car

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-and you stop too quickly, then, you know.

-Yeah.

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I know this because I went to one of those speed awareness courses,

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and there's this ex-copper, and he was trying to scare everyone,

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and he went, "Yes, this lady, lady driver, had a laptop computer,

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"a laptop computer on the back...

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Mel Smith was in the room for a second.

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It was, yeah, it was.

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He talked like that, he went, "Laptop computer, on the back."

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It's very Mel Smith.

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"On the back shelf, and she stopped too quickly,

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"took her head clean off.

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"Took her head clean off, like a knife through butter."

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It's always clean off, isn't it?

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And there was a dear old lady next to me,

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who'd been caught doing 31mph in a built-up area...

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On a tiny little scooter thing.

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Yeah, on a mobility scooter.

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-I can't stop!

-I can't hold it!

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-You'll have to go to a workshop.

-Yeah.

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And she grabbed my hand, she went, "Oh, my God!"

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Like that. But, of course, I can't imagine it.

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No, actually, we're in Australia

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and it's a programme that's written on a computer.

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-A virus.

-It's nothing to do with the Wi-Fi, is it?

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-Do they not...

-No, no.

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It's a specific programme written by a specific person,

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in order to help someone do something that will end their lives.

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-Is it some euthanasia thing?

-It's a euthanasia programme, yes.

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There's an Australian doctor, called Dr Death - obviously,

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-as they always are - and he's rigged up this...

-Death machine.

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..injection system to a laptop

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and you have to answer three questions.

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You have to be sane and smart enough

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to answer the three questions, yes, positively.

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-Do you know what they are?

-Yes, I have them for you.

-OK.

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"One - are you aware that if you go ahead to the last screen

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"and press the yes button,

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"you will be given a lethal dose of medications and die?"

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So, they're not difficult questions.

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-No.

-Also, I...

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I thought it was going to be things like, you know...

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-What year was the Battle of Crecy?

-Yes.

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I scroll through a lot of these and just press accept.

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That would be my worry.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Terms and conditions, I've read them.

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Terms and conditions, terms and conditions.

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The second one is, "Are you certain you understand

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"that if you proceed and press the yes button on the next screen

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"that you will die?"

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Wow.

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-That's just very clear.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

-So you press yes again.

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-So does it then say, "Are you sure?"

-On the third screen...

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-Are you sure? Come on now.

-In 15 seconds...

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Have you seen the word "die"?

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..you will be given a lethal injection. Press yes to proceed.

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-It's that simple.

-That's heavy, man.

-Yeah.

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SANDI: And where do you get it, Amazon?

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No. But...

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I suppose if you've made the decision, then, you know,

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it's finding a... I found a very odd...

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I didn't know this was a rule, recently,

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I always get headaches when I'm on tour, so I thought,

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"Well, I may as well just stock up on paracetamol,"

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cos I go through a couple a night.

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So, I tried to buy about 48 packets of paracetamol.

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No, no, no, no, no. That'll kill you.

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Well, yeah, obviously I wasn't going to take them all at once,

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-but obviously there's a rule.

-They don't know that.

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You're only allowed...

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But I just thought to myself, that's saving no-one, is it?

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No-one's got to that point and gone, "Oh, can I not?

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"Oh, I'll stay alive then, thank you very much."

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I go into a newsagents and order a bottle of vodka

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and they give me a quarter one now.

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Because they've heard things about me.

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Although, there was a moment when the woman embarrassed me

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in front of a queue of people, where she said,

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"I can't sell you that many paracetamol."

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And I went, "Oh, why? Why is that?"

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And she said, "It's in case you kill yourself."

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She said those words to me. And I, this was my panic, I went,

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"What? But there's a load of freezer stuff in there!"

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Like, that was my actual point.

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Like, that was the logic, you know?

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Look in my trolley there, there's some long-life milk, why am I going?

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Why would I go?

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Do you think I'm mad? Do you think I'd waste that?

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There's some Findus crispy pancakes I'm looking forward to!

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Yeah, there's a Solero in there, I've got so much to live for!

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You want to look into that headache thing,

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it'll be caffeine-related, I expect.

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-You want to flush your system.

-I'll do that.

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With vodka.

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I have to say, the only time I've had morphine was in Copenhagen.

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I had kidney stones, they gave me morphine.

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I should think so, it's the most painful thing.

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And my partner said it was so embarrassing because

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I was just lying there going, "I'm filled with honey."

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We had Jeremy Clarkson on and he was talking about kidney stones,

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said the most painful thing a human being could have.

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And someone said, "Erm, childbirth, I'll think you'll find."

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And he said, "Ah, do we have anyone in the audience who has given birth

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"to a child and had kidney stones?"

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-And there was one person.

-Course there is!

-And he said,

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"Which was the most painful?" And she said kidney stones.

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-Do they zap them with something sonic?

-They do now.

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I was off my head, I've no idea what they did.

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I think they do, they dissolve them and then you pee them out.

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What you don't want is someone giving it, "Come here. Come here!

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"Bend over!"

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APPLAUSE

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Let's get this chameleon, let's line it up...

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with your, er...entrance.

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Well, what about suicide booths, where do they exist?

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Have you ever seen or heard of them? Soylent Green?

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A Harry Harrison novel that was a great movie.

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There are suicide booths there, used by Matt Groening

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in Futurama, rather wonderfully.

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So what, you just pop in and kill yourself?

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Yeah, there are three modes of death in Futurama - quick and painless,

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slow and horrible and clumsy bludgeoning.

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So what, you just put a 50p in or something?

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Yeah, that's the idea in science fiction,

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that people would want to do that.

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Euthanasia becomes not just a right, but a sort of...fuck it, you know?

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-I like a photo booth, though.

-Yes.

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They've got that retro, you know, Instamatic,

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Instagram type thing, you know?

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We've sort of gone reverse, cos the photo's getting so perfect,

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we've now got to a point where we go,

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"Get Instagram and make it a bit worse."

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I'm going to do an app where you just put, like,

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your dad's thumb in the top corner.

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"Remember this?"

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They used to say if you look like your passport photograph,

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you're probably not well enough to travel.

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That's a very good theory, I like that.

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The very first job I ever applied for in TV, it said you had to send in

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your CV and your photograph, and traditionally in show business

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it's a sort of 8x10, used to be an 8x10 rather glossy thing.

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I didn't know that, I went to Victoria Station and, erm...

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And the stool was stuck, erm, down low.

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So, honestly, I sent in a photograph of the top...

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LAUGHTER

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..of my head, and they thought it was a joke - so I got the job.

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Really?!

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-APPLAUSE

-Wow.

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-There was an actors' directory, no longer used...

-Spotlight.

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..called Spotlight, in which you had to give your photograph,

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and I remember Barry Humphries had a wonderful one,

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just a picture of him like that, not as Dame Edna but it just said,

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"Leather and denim roles preferred."

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I used to try and put things in to see if they'd print them.

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Just out of sheer devilment.

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Things like, "Can hover."

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"Is magnetic." You know?

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"I'm OK round chickens."

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Just to see...

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But they never printed them,

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-they probably just went, "Silly."

-Silly!

-"Silly man."

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"Will hover on demand."

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Anyway, yes, this happy little fellow is about to kill himself.

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How?

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Do you recognise that?

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-Is it a field mouse?

-He's about to kill himself?

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He is, by doing something which nature impels him to do,

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-which is a suicidal thing to do.

-Fling himself off a cliff.

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-ALARM BELL

-Oh, dear, oh, dear.

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Throwing himself off a cliff,

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I thought, well, why not? We'll get that one out of the way.

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You thought it might be a lemming

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-and, anyway, lemmings don't, of course, but...

-No, they don't.

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It's not a lemming, it's in fact not a rodent.

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-Is it not?

-No.

-Is it a squirrel?

-Is it a marsupial?

-Squirrel?

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It is a marsupial, yes,

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it's a bit of a convergent how-do-you-do, there.

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It's a marsupial, and it's called an antechinus.

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Antechinus? Well, what are the natural things?

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It's either going to eat something or it's going to drink something.

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What do animals live to do? They live to eat in order to?

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-Procreate.

-To survive long enough to procreate, to pass on their genes.

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So, is it some naughty sex thing that happens?

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It's about to have sex, and that is, for it, suicide.

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They go on an extraordinary shagging spree.

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I mean, it is quite, quite unbelievable.

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I have to give you the details, because they're pretty amazing.

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It's semelparous, which means it only does it once.

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And it's about 12 hours on the job

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with one female before moving on to the next.

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It doesn't eat or sleep,

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it just keeps going in a testosterone-driven frenzy.

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Well, never mind about him - that poor female!

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Well, that's, then the next one, and the next one.

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12 hours! She must be chafed.

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To get the necessary energy, the males' bodies strip themselves

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of all their vital proteins and suppress their immune systems.

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By the end of the fortnight, they are physiologically exhausted,

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bald, gangrenous, ravaged by stress and infection and keel over and die.

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Wow!

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Russell Brand, take note!

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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-It's pretty grim.

-Wow.

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That sounds like Henry VIII at the end of his life, doesn't it?

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-It does, somewhat. It is, it is.

-Does this happen only once, then?

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Yes, semelparous, once in Latin, semel is once.

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They're dead before the children arrive?

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Very much so. And that, some people think, may be the reason...

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-Just to get out of childcare.

-They can't bear the thought of it.

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-Or, if you give it a better gloss, it's in order to...

-Food.

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..leave more food for their children.

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So, it's 12 hours and then another 12 hours.

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-Yeah, yeah. And this lasts for a fortnight, apparently. Yeah.

-Wow!

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-A two-week mating season.

-WOMAN LAUGHING

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There's somebody in the audience

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remembering her Spanish holiday over there.

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Ooh!

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Magaluf, 1982. Oh.

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Oh, that was a party.

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But they aren't the only marsupials with a suicidal sex drive,

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there's also marsupial cats, which have a wonderful name.

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-Very good for Scrabble - quoll.

-Quoll?

-Q-U-O-L-L.

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Very good Scrabble word. There's a little quoll.

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These are all Australian?

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The female northerns, yes, are subjected by males

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to bouts of copulation.

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It is put here they can last 24 hours,

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-with plenty of biting and screeching.

-Oh, I say!

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They soon get their own back, though.

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The post-coital males lose weight, become anaemic,

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their scrotums shrink, their fur falls out

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-and they get infested with lice.

-Oh, wow.

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Within a week or two they die

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like their mousy cousins, martyrs to their genes.

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-Wow. Horrible.

-It's grim, isn't it?

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-It's grim down south.

-Even if that was in humans,

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-I think most men would go, "Ah, may as well!"

-Worth it!

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"I'm here now!"

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Worth it! What a day!

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All the females are sitting around going, "Don't worry,

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"they'll be gone in a minute."

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I presume they don't know it's going to happen to them.

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No, presumably they'd have no sense of the impending...

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There's no three questions. "If you have sex, you will die."

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-Because they never knew their father.

-"Press yes."

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"Are you sure you want sex?" "Yes!"

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"Definitely?" "Oh, yes!"

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"Here's a picture of somebody who's had sex."

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Their father, unfortunately, isn't there to tell them.

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-By definition.

-"Don't do it!"

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-So they are, they're railroaded into this.

-Just programmed.

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-Self-destructive shagging frenzy.

-Programmed. Deeply programmed.

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Now, if you had to fight a duel,

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which weapon would you want your opponent to choose?

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A - Hot-air balloon? Would that please you?

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B - A billiard ball? C - A sword?

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Or D - A sausage?

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-Sausages are fairly non-lethal.

-You'd say sausage.

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I would think you could get terrible food poisoning from a sausage.

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If you had them in a string of sausages...

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I don't know how you'd use the hot-air balloon as an actual weapon

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unless you land on somebody, I don't know how you would...

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The rules were, if you challenge someone to a duel,

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the person you challenge can choose the weapon and the place.

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So if you choose a balloon,

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-you're choosing...

-They'd be in the balloon?

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They can choose a gun and a balloon.

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You can pretty much work out what could therefore happen.

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And you would draw straws as to who shoots first.

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If they're not very good shots, the first one could miss.

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It would be a bit annoying if you had chosen guns and balloons

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and then got the short straw and he got to shoot first.

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-You'd be like, "What's the point?"

-Yes.

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Although it's not a small target,

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it depends how far away it was, of course.

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Well, we do have history on our side,

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so we can tell a story about the sausage.

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There was a scientist, a very eminent scientist,

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who was rather liberal in his ways, who lived in Prussia,

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and who was the great leader of Prussia,

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who basically unified Germany and was the, what we would call

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a prime minister, but he was the Minister President of Prussia.

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-Bismarck.

-Von Bismarck, exactly.

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And this German pathologist, who was called Rudolf Virchow,

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so opposed the mighty armaments programme that Bismarck had started,

0:23:340:23:39

that he enraged Bismarck who challenged him to a duel.

0:23:390:23:43

So, because he got to choose, this doctor,

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who was the first man to isolate the pathogen

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behind pork that had gone off, which is called Trichinella spiralis,

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said, "OK, the weapons will be sausages."

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One of which would be poisonous, toxic, as you say, with this agent,

0:23:550:23:59

this pathogen, so he challenged him to a breakfast, essentially,

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and Bismarck didn't like the idea, so he called the whole thing off,

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which the challenger has the right to do.

0:24:050:24:07

-So, it's a sausage roulette?

-Yeah.

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Yeah, basically, sausage roulette.

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Yeah. But with only two.

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And so you had a 50/50 chance of dying,

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so that's a pretty dangerous duel, a sausage duel.

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So, moving from the sausage to the balloon.

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Monsieur Grandpre and Monsieur de Pique.

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We're going to get quite French, because you know what they're like.

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In 1808, there was a dispute between these two over the affections of a young woman.

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They took to the skies in separate hot air balloons, each armed with a Blunderbuss.

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De Pique shot first and missed. He had the first shot and he missed.

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It is a moment, isn't it?

0:24:350:24:36

Grandpre then fired at de Pique's balloon and punctured it,

0:24:360:24:39

-sending him and his second down to their deaths.

-Wow.

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2,000 feet above Paris. So, a balloon, pretty damned dangerous.

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The very first female air passenger ever was in a hot-air balloon -

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Elisabeth Thible. She was an opera singer

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and she was dressed as Minerva and sang arias from opera

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-as she fed the fire and the balloon took off.

-How wonderful!

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Unfortunately, she landed and sprained her ankle,

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but other than that...

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Yes, it's great. She was the very first female passenger.

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There's only one example of a billiard ball duel

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that we've been able to discover

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and that took place between a Monsieur Lenfant

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and a Monsieur Melfant. They fell out over a game of billiards,

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not surprisingly, and so they used what was to hand - billiard balls.

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Presumably it was carom if they were French.

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And they decided to resolve their difference

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by pelting each other one after the other with billiard balls.

0:25:210:25:25

Again, they drew straws to see who would throw first.

0:25:250:25:27

And Melfant won and he warned his opponent he would kill him

0:25:270:25:30

with one single strike and he did. Straight between the eyes, dead.

0:25:300:25:33

-Wow.

-Wow.

-Bloody hell.

-God.

-Yeah. That's, so that's...

0:25:330:25:36

And he probably went, "I was joking!"

0:25:360:25:38

Yeah, exactly.

0:25:380:25:39

"I didn't think I'd actually hit you."

0:25:390:25:41

-Why didn't they use the cue? Surely, that would have been a...

-Yeah.

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So, of all the weapons we've described,

0:25:430:25:45

probably the safest is the sword, because in duelling,

0:25:450:25:49

all you have to do is get the... draw first blood, as the phrase is.

0:25:490:25:53

So, you literally have to pink someone,

0:25:530:25:54

just give them a little scratch

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and it's called off by the second, "Oh, you got him."

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So, there we are, duelling.

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Now, why would you resupply your enemies with bullets

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when they'd run out of them? How crazy is that?

0:26:020:26:04

Seems silly, doesn't it?

0:26:040:26:06

-Or indeed a plastic spoon!

-Unless they were...

0:26:060:26:08

-Keep it fair!

-..fake bullets?

-No, real bullets.

0:26:080:26:10

There's your enemy, you desperately want to defeat them,

0:26:100:26:12

they are running out of ammunition and you resupply them.

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-Are they bullets which explode when...?

-Sabotage?

0:26:150:26:17

-Are they sabotaged?

-No.

-Somebody else comes to attack us and...

0:26:170:26:20

They're good bullets. No, no, you don't make a deal with them.

0:26:200:26:23

-Is it a sense of honour?

-It's something so wonderful, I think,

0:26:230:26:25

that should guide the British government

0:26:250:26:27

and its policy on a particular issue,

0:26:270:26:30

one that is very dear to me

0:26:300:26:31

and the nation who have this marvellous building

0:26:310:26:34

that I've had trouble pronouncing sometimes.

0:26:340:26:36

-It's in the, em...Acropolis.

-LAUGHTER

0:26:360:26:40

-Ah, yes, that's where the...

-Where the Parthenon is, yes, yes.

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And it's the Parthenon we are discussing.

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So, Greece, let's go back almost 200 years.

0:26:470:26:50

-Who ran Greece almost 200 years ago?

-Turks?

-Turks, the Ottoman Empire.

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And there was a big movement to free Greece, led by Greeks,

0:26:540:26:58

but also by some Britons, notably Lord Byron, who died there.

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Lord Byron, yes.

0:27:010:27:02

And, by 1820, they had got quite a grip on the colonialists

0:27:020:27:07

and they'd pushed them all back up the Acropolis

0:27:070:27:09

and there they were in the Parthenon, that wonderful building.

0:27:090:27:13

And...the Turks were firing and they ran out of shot.

0:27:130:27:18

Now, the original builders of the Acropolis

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were extraordinary architects

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and they joined together these 70,000 pieces of marble

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in a magnificent way.

0:27:280:27:30

They put in sheets of lead to protect it

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and bits of iron staple and lead

0:27:330:27:35

to keep connecting together the marble.

0:27:350:27:38

Then, in 1820, when the Ottomans were defending it,

0:27:380:27:41

they started to use these lead sheets

0:27:410:27:43

to melt them down to make shot and the Greeks said,

0:27:430:27:46

"We're not going to have that happen to the Parthenon!"

0:27:460:27:48

Ah, so give them bullets to stop them doing it?

0:27:480:27:51

To stop them destroying the building they loved so much,

0:27:510:27:54

that meant Athens to them.

0:27:540:27:55

And if that story doesn't make the British government

0:27:550:27:59

get off its arse and give back the Elgin marbles,

0:27:590:28:01

I don't know what will.

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APPLAUSE

0:28:020:28:04

If we do that, do we have to give back everything else, as well?

0:28:070:28:11

-No! No!

-Because we've got lots of stuff, haven't we?

0:28:110:28:14

That's the slippery slope fallacy,

0:28:140:28:16

it's the first fallacy of logic and it just doesn't play.

0:28:160:28:20

Anyway, yes, that's basically it.

0:28:200:28:21

I didn't give you much of a chance to come in on that, did I?

0:28:210:28:24

But it's a good story, it was worth telling.

0:28:240:28:26

-I like it when you're passionate on a subject.

-Thank you.

0:28:260:28:29

But isn't it a wonderful story about human beings,

0:28:290:28:31

that even in the face of death that we revere beauty and great art

0:28:310:28:36

-more than ourselves? I think that's marvellous.

-It is wonderful.

0:28:360:28:39

Absolutely wonderful, I agree.

0:28:390:28:41

Right, now, let's go to real beauty and real splendour.

0:28:410:28:45

Why was a pint of best in 19th-century Norfolk

0:28:450:28:48

just what the doctor ordered?

0:28:480:28:50

Oh. Has it got something medicinal in it?

0:28:510:28:54

It sure has. Poppies.

0:28:540:28:56

Heroin.

0:28:560:28:57

Not heroin, heroin wasn't discovered...

0:28:570:28:59

"A pint of your heroin beer, please."

0:28:590:29:02

Not heroin, but opium.

0:29:020:29:04

It's no wonder Norfolk has kept to itself.

0:29:040:29:06

Heroin needs a little bit more chemical skill

0:29:060:29:08

than they were able to show in Fenland.

0:29:080:29:10

-Bit more Breaking Bad.

-Yes, basically.

0:29:100:29:12

And they had been having this stuff for ages and ages and ages,

0:29:120:29:15

and then, in the 19th century, laudanum became very popular.

0:29:150:29:19

Laudanum is a tincture of a small amount of opium with alcohol.

0:29:190:29:23

Queen Victoria loved it, and they loved it in the Fens.

0:29:230:29:26

And they had it with beer, so they'd have poppy stuff in their beer.

0:29:260:29:29

There was a period called 'the Great Binge', and it was really from,

0:29:290:29:33

sort of, 1880s to the outbreak of the First World War,

0:29:330:29:37

and the banning of absinthe in France.

0:29:370:29:40

-What a time to be alive!

-Yes.

0:29:400:29:42

And, as I say, Queen Victoria was addicted to laudanum,

0:29:420:29:44

she'd have laudanum every night.

0:29:440:29:46

To be wealthy and idle in the Great Binge.

0:29:460:29:48

Yes. It was something.

0:29:480:29:49

You're talking about Wetherspoons right now, aren't you? Yeah.

0:29:490:29:53

In our time, you could get kaolin and morphine perfectly easily.

0:29:530:29:56

Yes, supposedly to cure diarrhoea. You could also buy, in Boots,

0:29:560:29:59

liquid aniseed and you may say, "What's the point of that?"

0:29:590:30:02

It was a fabulous trick. You know catnip for cats?

0:30:020:30:04

Everyone knows how cats behave when you have catnip.

0:30:040:30:06

Dogs behave like that to liquid aniseed,

0:30:060:30:08

so you would sprinkle it on your trouser legs

0:30:080:30:10

and see these little old ladies being pulled along the street.

0:30:100:30:14

LAUGHTER

0:30:140:30:15

They'd fly after your trousers. It was quite extraordinary.

0:30:150:30:18

While you were completely off your head on kaolin and morphine.

0:30:180:30:21

-Ahh, those were the days.

-JASON: Good times, good times.

0:30:210:30:25

-Was this a private education you were receiving?

-Yes.

0:30:250:30:28

And I don't recommend it. Anyway, in Fenland

0:30:280:30:31

they drank a lot of beer with their own poppies in it.

0:30:310:30:33

Basically, Norfolk and Lincolnshire consumed

0:30:330:30:35

-over five and a half tonnes a year.

-Wow.

0:30:350:30:37

Which was, basically, more than the whole country put together.

0:30:370:30:40

-Wow.

-Good God.

-Yeah.

0:30:400:30:41

Do you think it hindered the development of the region?

0:30:410:30:44

It might have done.

0:30:440:30:45

It was known as "stuff" or "best" and, basically, it did destroy...

0:30:450:30:49

Got any stuff?

0:30:490:30:50

Yes.

0:30:510:30:52

In the 19th-century, being an opium addict was normal for Norfolk.

0:30:520:30:55

Nowadays, we're told that even sugar is a deadly poison.

0:30:550:30:58

But are sugar-free sweets good for you?

0:30:580:31:00

Oh, they give you the runs!

0:31:020:31:03

Honestly, if you are at all stuffed-up,

0:31:050:31:08

two sugar-free sweets, you'll be singing.

0:31:080:31:12

I don't know why.

0:31:120:31:14

Well, I ought to warn you that

0:31:140:31:16

-you have missed your Spend A Penny chance, that was it.

-Oh.

0:31:160:31:18

Because it's all about going...

0:31:180:31:20

-Well, it's too late now.

-Oh, yes, of course.

-Never mind.

0:31:200:31:22

It's lycasin, which can have a mildly

0:31:220:31:25

or moderately laxative effect.

0:31:250:31:28

That's if you take a few of them.

0:31:280:31:30

On the Amazon page where they sell sugar-free Haribo Gummy Bears,

0:31:300:31:34

it clearly warns, "May cause stomach discomfort

0:31:340:31:37

"and/or a laxative effect."

0:31:370:31:39

The same page has over 250 comments.

0:31:390:31:41

"Stomach discomfort turns out to be a massive understatement!"

0:31:410:31:45

Oh, yes.

0:31:450:31:46

"Gastrointestinal Armageddon!"

0:31:460:31:49

"Calamitous flatulence."

0:31:520:31:54

"Trumpets calling the demons back from hell."

0:31:550:31:58

GUNSHOTS

0:31:580:31:59

That's the noise, exactly.

0:31:590:32:01

-I'm just adding some noises to the story.

-Yeah.

0:32:010:32:05

"Guttural pronouncement so loud,

0:32:050:32:06

"it threatened to drown out my own voice."

0:32:060:32:09

And "flammable liquid Napalm extruding."

0:32:100:32:13

Those are some of the milder comments.

0:32:130:32:15

I've never known anything like it.

0:32:150:32:16

I got some butterscotch sweets, and I honestly had two

0:32:160:32:20

and I thought it was a good way to help me lose weight, and it did.

0:32:200:32:23

Absolutely. Yeah.

0:32:230:32:26

I once tried to figure out how many gummy bears

0:32:260:32:29

you could put into a remote-control helicopter

0:32:290:32:31

before you, you know, would compromise its airborne stability.

0:32:310:32:36

-And?

-You know those little tiny ones?

0:32:360:32:39

Oh, the little, tiny, miniature ones!

0:32:390:32:42

The tiny miniature helicopters that can hover.

0:32:420:32:44

I put one gummy bear in it as the pilot

0:32:440:32:47

and it crashed immediately.

0:32:470:32:49

-One! They're so...

-Such a delicate aerodynamic set-up.

0:32:510:32:54

-Very delicate aerodynamics, yeah.

-Wow!

0:32:540:32:57

Yeah, I say I put it in the pilot seat and it went over like that,

0:32:570:33:00

whereas I should have put one on each rail

0:33:000:33:02

and then it would have been fine.

0:33:020:33:04

I know that now.

0:33:040:33:05

-But thanks for passing it on.

-Yeah, no, that's fine.

-Good.

0:33:060:33:10

And now for the lethal concoction of toxic misapprehension

0:33:100:33:12

and venomous disinformation that we call General Ignorance.

0:33:120:33:15

So, fingers on buzzers, if you please.

0:33:150:33:17

Name a non-venomous snake.

0:33:170:33:19

-EXPLOSION

-Yes?

0:33:190:33:21

The grass snake.

0:33:210:33:23

-ALARM BELL

-Oh!

-What?

0:33:230:33:25

We thought you might say that.

0:33:260:33:28

Well, clearly!

0:33:280:33:30

Somebody's very quick on the typing, otherwise.

0:33:310:33:34

Are they all venomous but just not very?

0:33:340:33:36

Yes. All snakes are venomous.

0:33:360:33:38

A recent discovery by a man you know you can trust because of his name,

0:33:380:33:42

he's called Professor Brian Fry, of the University...

0:33:420:33:46

No, he isn't.

0:33:460:33:47

-AUSTRALIAN ACCENT:

-University of Queensland.

0:33:470:33:49

And in 2013,

0:33:490:33:50

he showed that even snakes that kill by constriction have venom in them

0:33:500:33:55

and it's been re-purposed to create a sort of lubricant

0:33:550:33:57

to help swallow the huge things that constrictors swallow.

0:33:570:34:00

But it still contains small quantities of venom. Fry comments...

0:34:000:34:04

"Fry comments," I find that very odd, saying that.

0:34:040:34:06

Their toxins are the equivalent of a kiwi's wing

0:34:060:34:08

or the sightless eyes of a blind cavefish -

0:34:080:34:10

defunct remnants of a functional past.

0:34:100:34:13

And he showed that the world's largest lizard, which is...?

0:34:130:34:16

-Komodo dragon.

-Komodo.

0:34:160:34:17

The Komodo dragon, yes, kills its prey with venom,

0:34:170:34:19

which we all thought beforehand that it was killed with sort of bacteria,

0:34:190:34:22

that it just basically bit it and it had such disgusting slobber

0:34:220:34:26

that the thing caught infections.

0:34:260:34:28

-Yeah, but they actually envenomate.

-It seems so, yeah.

0:34:280:34:30

The small fangs at the rear of a grass snake's mouth

0:34:300:34:33

do actually spit out at you and they'll hiss and they'll strike,

0:34:330:34:36

and you will get a small itchy infection.

0:34:360:34:38

-Envenomation, as you say.

-Right.

0:34:380:34:40

So, there you are.

0:34:400:34:41

That's weird and surprising, there are no non-venomous snakes.

0:34:410:34:44

They all have venom glands.

0:34:440:34:45

How fast was the fastest mass extinction?

0:34:450:34:48

-How many years? I'll give you...

-EXPLOSION

0:34:480:34:52

The Liberal Democrats!

0:34:520:34:53

LAUGHTER

0:34:530:34:55

APPLAUSE

0:34:550:34:57

-So, about two weeks, then?

-Two weeks! Ukip.

0:35:010:35:04

Ukip are like Top Gear for people that don't like cars.

0:35:040:35:08

LAUGHTER

0:35:080:35:10

-That's very good.

-Thousands? Are we talking thousands?

0:35:100:35:13

-Thousands of years.

-Thousands? Oh.

-Yes, thousands.

0:35:130:35:16

It happened 252 million years ago, the ending of the Permian period.

0:35:160:35:21

It's known as The Great Dying. Sounds rather Star Trek, doesn't it?

0:35:210:35:25

-The Great Dying.

-So, what? Sort of 5,000 years?

0:35:250:35:27

60,000 years. Three score thousand years.

0:35:270:35:30

But there have been about three of these mass extinctions?

0:35:300:35:32

Five. Well, yeah, supposedly we're in the sixth.

0:35:320:35:35

We are in one at the moment.

0:35:350:35:36

I mean, forget global warming,

0:35:360:35:38

just simply by the way we're destroying habitats.

0:35:380:35:40

Either eating them or running them over.

0:35:400:35:43

Or simply just competing for space and not giving...

0:35:430:35:46

You know, monocultures and biodiversity.

0:35:460:35:49

But it's a staggering number a day, isn't it?

0:35:490:35:51

A huge number day. It's horrifying.

0:35:510:35:53

Now, Alan, would you take a bullet for me?

0:35:530:35:56

Yes, Stephen, of course.

0:35:560:35:58

Aw, thank you. Very good.

0:35:580:35:59

LAUGHTER

0:35:590:36:01

ALARMS BELLS Wow!

0:36:010:36:04

-Sorry, no. No, I wouldn't.

-No, no.

0:36:070:36:08

No, you wouldn't, because you couldn't.

0:36:080:36:11

I mean, that's to say, in the standard way it's done,

0:36:110:36:13

the "No-o-o-o!"

0:36:130:36:15

The diving in front of someone, you can't take a bullet for someone.

0:36:150:36:17

Well, you'd have to anticipate, I presume.

0:36:170:36:20

You'd have to anticipate in such an incredible way.

0:36:200:36:22

-Accidental, you know, act of...

-Accidental, it would.

0:36:220:36:25

Because, of course, a bullet goes at 1,000 feet per second.

0:36:250:36:28

That's from a hand gun. 700mph that is.

0:36:280:36:30

Did you know...? I read this.

0:36:300:36:32

You might like this because you like cricket.

0:36:320:36:34

They've stopped using bowling machines

0:36:340:36:36

because they've discovered that it doesn't help you at all,

0:36:360:36:38

that the people who are very good at batting

0:36:380:36:40

have worked it out before the ball is released

0:36:400:36:42

by the shape and the angle of the arm of the bowler.

0:36:420:36:45

Their anticipation is that much quicker,

0:36:450:36:48

so it's actually of no use to you to practise with a machine,

0:36:480:36:51

you must practise with people, so you're trained...

0:36:510:36:53

-Trained to see the arm.

-Seeing the person coming at you

0:36:530:36:56

-over and over and over.

-So, the notion that the Secret Service

0:36:560:36:58

are going to throw themselves in front of the President is just silly?

0:36:580:37:01

Well, it has happened. It happened in the case of John Hinckley

0:37:010:37:04

who had a pop at Ronald Reagan in 1981.

0:37:040:37:07

-No-o-o!

-That's it, exactly. It has to...

0:37:070:37:10

This is how I would do it. I wouldn't use my head.

0:37:100:37:12

No, very sensible.

0:37:120:37:13

-I'd use my arse.

-Your arse, yeah.

0:37:130:37:15

Or my leg.

0:37:160:37:18

Yeah. Yeah, I would use, I would use that.

0:37:180:37:20

-I would use Bill.

-Yeah.

0:37:210:37:23

I'd get it out for you, Alan.

0:37:230:37:26

-I'm taking that bag home with me!

-A supplementary question,

0:37:280:37:30

why do people fall over when they've been shot?

0:37:300:37:33

Because they've just been shot.

0:37:330:37:34

ALARM BELLS

0:37:360:37:38

Aww!

0:37:380:37:40

No, is the answer.

0:37:460:37:48

Shock.

0:37:480:37:50

Cos they're dead?

0:37:500:37:52

-A dead person would fall over, obviously.

-Eventually.

0:37:520:37:54

Whether they'd been shot in any way...

0:37:540:37:56

Is it not the speed, like, the speed and the impact, no?

0:37:560:37:58

No, none of those things will knock you over.

0:37:580:38:00

-ALARM BELLS

-What?

0:38:000:38:03

Unbelievable.

0:38:030:38:04

"The impact!"

0:38:040:38:06

What a band.

0:38:060:38:08

I banged my head on the fireplace the other day and I fell over.

0:38:080:38:10

-That would do it.

-Wait, wait, is this a lavatory question?

0:38:100:38:13

No, we've already had one.

0:38:130:38:15

-Oh, no, I don't know.

-Because they've seen it done in movies.

-Really?

0:38:150:38:18

So, in the Wild West, when they had a shoot-out

0:38:180:38:21

and cos they'd never seen a cowboy film,

0:38:210:38:23

people just carried on standing.

0:38:230:38:25

-Most people when they're shot don't know they've been shot.

-Right.

0:38:250:38:28

We have it on the authority of the FBI Academy Firearms Training Unit

0:38:280:38:31

that people generally do fall down when shot,

0:38:310:38:34

but only when they know they have.

0:38:340:38:35

-That's the point.

-Right.

0:38:350:38:37

Regardless of bullet calibre or where they're hit,

0:38:370:38:39

people who've been shot and don't know it yet don't fall over.

0:38:390:38:42

Unless you were shot and your leg was shot off, and then you would...

0:38:420:38:45

If it was shot off, you would naturally, yeah. Exactly.

0:38:450:38:47

There are circumstances in which you can fall over.

0:38:470:38:50

But books, films and TV have educated us

0:38:500:38:52

-that we are supposed to fall down, that's why.

-Right.

0:38:520:38:54

Now, is it wrong to eat people?

0:38:540:38:57

-Oh!

-I think it's wrong...

0:38:590:39:01

-Undergraduate philosophy class, this, isn't it?

-Yes, isn't it, yeah.

0:39:010:39:04

It depends on the circumstances.

0:39:040:39:06

It would not have been wrong to eat Hitler, I would argue.

0:39:060:39:10

I think it's wrong to eat this one.

0:39:120:39:14

-Yeah.

-Unless that's Hitler.

-Yeah.

0:39:140:39:16

Ah, well, yeah. That's a very good ethical point.

0:39:160:39:19

Are you saying there are some circumstances where...?

0:39:190:39:21

-Well, cannibalism is not illegal in Britain.

-Is it not?

0:39:210:39:24

Murder is, so to kill someone in order to eat them

0:39:240:39:26

-is obviously illegal.

-It is frowned upon. Dealt with by magistrates.

0:39:260:39:29

-If I had to lose a liver, I mean, sorry, not a liver...

-A kidney.

0:39:290:39:33

-A kidney, yeah.

-Don't lose your liver.

-How many livers have you got?

0:39:330:39:36

A liver transplant, maybe. I might give my old liver to someone

0:39:360:39:38

and say, "By all means fry it up with some onions if you want to."

0:39:380:39:41

-Oh, wow.

-Well, you can eat placenta, can't you?

0:39:410:39:43

-Placenta is commonly fried after, yeah.

-Yes.

-Absolutely.

0:39:430:39:46

There's a special fork that, for cannibalism,

0:39:460:39:48

there's a three-pronged fork

0:39:480:39:49

and I've always thought that if you saw one laid on a table

0:39:490:39:52

when you'd been invited, it probably...

0:39:520:39:54

-That's the time to move away.

-Yeah.

0:39:540:39:56

-So, it's technically not illegal to eat anyone?

-No.

0:39:560:39:58

And so, if you were to, you know, at a funeral,

0:39:580:40:01

just have a little nibble of a toe or something.

0:40:010:40:03

Well, you'd definitely need permission. As with anything.

0:40:030:40:07

Why hasn't anyone started, you know, in times of a recession, going,

0:40:070:40:11

"Do you know what? I hardly walk anyway, so..."

0:40:110:40:14

Absolutely.

0:40:140:40:16

"Just have the left one."

0:40:160:40:18

There are people in the recession who hardly walk!

0:40:180:40:21

That's a bad one, isn't it?

0:40:230:40:24

That is a really bad recession.

0:40:240:40:26

Can't even walk now.

0:40:260:40:28

In Germany, in 2003, you may remember that case,

0:40:280:40:30

there was a computer technician called Armin Meiwes...

0:40:300:40:33

-Oh, that's right, yes.

-..who conspired, as you might say,

0:40:330:40:36

with a fellow engineer called Bernd Brandes

0:40:360:40:39

to sit down and eat with him.

0:40:390:40:41

Armin Meiwes cut off the penis of Bernd Brandes with his permission

0:40:410:40:44

and sat down to eat it with him.

0:40:440:40:46

He then stabbed him and froze the corpse to eat later.

0:40:460:40:48

Brandes gave him explicit permission for the whole scenario.

0:40:480:40:51

He originally asked Meiwes to bite off his penis.

0:40:510:40:53

This proved difficult. Meiwes had to use a knife.

0:40:530:40:56

He then tried to eat his own severed penis raw.

0:40:560:40:59

-Oh, not raw!

-Yeah.

0:40:590:41:00

-Oh!

-He found it too chewy.

0:41:000:41:02

LAUGHTER

0:41:020:41:04

-Have you had it cooked?

-Oh, the danger of infection from that!

0:41:060:41:09

I mean, really. "Oh, this is... No, this is raw."

0:41:090:41:12

-"Give it another five on the grill."

-Yeah.

0:41:140:41:16

They fried it in salt, pepper, wine and garlic.

0:41:160:41:20

-Oh, that's all right, then.

-Yeah.

0:41:200:41:21

-"Little bit of curry powder on that?"

-They tasted it

0:41:210:41:23

and agreed it was overdone, so fed it to the dog.

0:41:230:41:26

He then killed Brandes and hung his body on a meat hook

0:41:260:41:28

and proceeded to eat it over the next ten months.

0:41:280:41:30

He was found guilty of a sort of killing on demand,

0:41:300:41:32

but was retried and convicted of murder.

0:41:320:41:35

-Did he go to prison, or to some secure location?

-I don't know.

0:41:350:41:39

He was locked in a Happy Eater for the rest of his life.

0:41:390:41:42

LAUGHTER

0:41:420:41:44

According to the law, eating people, or bits of people, is not wrong.

0:41:450:41:48

Which brings me to the grisly business of the final scores,

0:41:480:41:51

and how interesting they are.

0:41:510:41:54

Way out... Well, not way out, but slightly last,

0:41:540:41:57

I'm sorry to say, with minus 19, is Jason Manford.

0:41:570:42:01

APPLAUSE

0:42:010:42:04

Trailing clouds of glory in a very respectable third place,

0:42:080:42:11

-would you believe it, Alan Davies!

-Thank you very much.

0:42:110:42:14

APPLAUSE

0:42:140:42:16

Second, with minus eight, Bill Bailey.

0:42:170:42:19

Minus eight.

0:42:190:42:21

APPLAUSE

0:42:210:42:23

Which can only mean that the winner is our token Dane,

0:42:250:42:28

with plus six, Sandi Toksvig.

0:42:280:42:30

APPLAUSE

0:42:300:42:32

And, with that, it's a big thank you and good night

0:42:380:42:41

from Sandi, Jason, Bill, Alan and me.

0:42:410:42:42

And we leave you with the last words of the poet Richard Savage,

0:42:420:42:46

who died in 1743.

0:42:460:42:47

"I have something to say to you, sir...

0:42:470:42:51

"No, 'tis gone."

0:42:510:42:52

Good night.

0:42:520:42:54

APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

0:42:540:42:56

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