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Welcome to a show | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
where we will be noodling about with an enormous array of things | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
beginning with N. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
Please welcome the netholiginous Jerry Springer. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
The nonalturantist Matt Lucas. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Thank you. Thank you very much, I'm very happy to be here. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
The noctivagant Cariad Lloyd. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
And nicky, nacky, noo, | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
it's Alan Davies. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Have you been described as netholiginous before, Jerry? | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Not recently. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
It's a wonderful word, and it means producing clouds of smoke. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
And, Cariad, noctivagant means night-wandering. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
That is true, yeah. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
So mind you don't do that when Jerry's producing clouds of smoke. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Yeah. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
-Sleep-walking, it's a sleep-walking thing. -Yeah, yeah. -Ah. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Do you sleep-walk at all? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
No, I don't sleep-walk. I'm a grown-up. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
Well, that's told the rest of us. Right... | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
And their buzzers have been lavishly personalised. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Jerry goes... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
-CHANTS: -'Jerry! Jerry! | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
'Jerry! Jerry! | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
'Jerry! Jerry! | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
'Jerry! Jerry! | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
'Jerry!' | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Can you tell we're a bit excited that you're here, Jerry? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Matt goes... | 0:01:58 | 0:01:59 | |
'Nope, but yet, but no, yeah, oh, my God, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
'I so can't believe you just said that.' | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
-Cariad goes... -I don't have a famous catchphrase, so... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
# Always Cariad Always Cariad Lloyd... # | 0:02:13 | 0:02:19 | |
'Oh, look, there's Cariad Lloyd!' | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
-You have a theme tune now. -I've got a theme tune. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
You've got walk-on music. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
-Yeah! -And Alan goes... | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
'Alan! Alan! Alan! Alan! | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
'Alan! Al! | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
'Alan! Alan!' | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
SHOTGUN GOES OFF | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
Anyway, moving on. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
Now, I've got a list here | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
of the Christian names of the first 200 parachutists | 0:02:47 | 0:02:52 | |
to land in Normandy on D-Day. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
I'd like you to give me the name of any of them. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
-Their Christian names? -Any Christian name. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
-Yeah. -Vladimir. -Vladimir, we're going to start with. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Another first name? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
-Mordechai? -Mordechai? | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
Well... | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
You have over 200 choices in here. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
John. Dave. William. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:15 | |
Enid. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
'Alan! Alan! Al! Alan! Alan!' | 0:03:20 | 0:03:25 | |
Are you suggesting that it's Alan? SHOTGUN GOES OFF | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
They were dummy people. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
They WERE dummy people. You are absolutely right. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:34 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
The very first Allied parachutists into Normandy | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
consisted of 200 dummies, six men, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
some gramophones and a pigeon. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
That's a good night! | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
It's a classic, yes! Absolute classic! | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
The 200 dummies were a diversionary tactic, the six men were SAS troops. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
I like this, they played battle noises on gramophones | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
to divert the Germans from the real air drops, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
which were going on elsewhere. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
And the pigeon was a carrier | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
strapped to the very first man to land, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
so the first soldier to land was called Norman Poole. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
I think they thought, Normandy, Norman! Let's have Norman. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
But the very first ones, there were 200 dummies, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
and they were all called Rupert. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Because British soldiers often | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
referred to their officers as Ruperts. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
They were only two foot nine inches tall, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
but from the ground, they would have looked full-size. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I've got helmets for you, if you wouldn't mind, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
just stick those on there. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
Just following orders. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:28 | |
Yep. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:29 | |
Because we're going to show you, from the ground, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
what the parachute drop would have looked like. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
It would have looked like this. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
It's possible you didn't need the helmets, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
but, then, it is possible that you would need them. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
-I needed it, yeah. -So those are replicas, obviously, of Rupert. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
They contained firecrackers | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
so that when they landed it sounded like they were firing. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
This one is anatomically correct. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
They distracted nearly a full German division, and in 2013, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
a Rupert was discovered in a garden shed in the UK, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
and nobody knows how he got back. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
We have a real one here which comes from the Museum of Army Flying | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
in Middle Wallop. Don't you love this country? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
We have a place called Middle Wallop. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
It is accompanied by his curator, Susan Lindsay. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Thank you, Susan. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:21 | |
Do you not think that is the coolest thing? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
Because how Rupert survived and made it all the way back to the UK, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
absolutely nobody knows. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
It's cool, but it's not as cool as Kanye. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
-It is cooler than Kanye. -Really? -Yeah. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:36 | |
Kanye sounds like something you'd cure with yoghurt. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
You can take your helmets off. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
Here's the thing, when they took the pigeons in, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
they either were strapped onto somebody or they had | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
a little parachute, and they were dropped in a container. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
In Monmouth in Wales, there was a factory | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
that just made pigeon parachutes. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
And in the United States, the Maidenform bra company stopped | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
manufacturing bras just to make pigeon vests and pigeon parachutes. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
And there was another extraordinary thing, and you can see a replica | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
also at the Museum of Army Flying, of something called the Hamilcar. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Look at that. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
It was a wooden glider large enough to take a seven-tonne tank. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
-Do you not think that's incredible? -Yep. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
-But would they just drop the tank? -No, no... -Oh. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
-They would land. -I see. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:19 | |
It wasn't the same as the pigeons and Rupert, | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
they didn't just go, "Good luck, tank," and then just shove it off. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
It's a new way of using a tank. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
You just drop it on the enemy, you don't even bother with... | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Lots of soldiers in Normandy were wearing what | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
underneath their uniforms? | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Oh, Kanye West t-shirts. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:34 | |
-They wore pyjamas. -Did they? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Did they have a swimming exam later? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
To get the...get the brick. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
It was for comfort. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
And JD Salinger was present, carrying in his backpack the very first | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
six chapters of The Catcher In The Rye. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-Just an extraordinary thought, isn't it? -Wow! -Yeah. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
My favourite story from that time is Lord Lovat, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
he was the commander of the first commando brigade. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
He took with him his personal bagpiper, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
this is very British, to do this. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
He took with him Bill Millin, who was his personal bagpiper. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
In the hope that he'd get shot? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
The story is he walked slowly up and down Sword Beach in Highland dress | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
playing to encourage the Allied troops, | 0:07:12 | 0:07:13 | |
and then he later piped the commandos | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
through the French countryside, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
and the German snipers said, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
"We didn't shoot him because we thought he'd gone mad." | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Jerry. Now, this time that we're talking about, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
the battle of Normandy, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
you were in the UK? | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Yes. I'd been born six months earlier, yes. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
And where were you? | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
I was actually born in Highgate, in the tube station. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
-During an air raid? -Not during an air raid, but you didn't know... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
Your mother just missed her train and... | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
Yes. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Women in the ninth month would often spend nights in the subway | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
because those were the bomb shelters. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
Have you been back to the station? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Yeah, and there's not even a plaque there! | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
You know. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
You'd need to have been conceived to have a plaque there, I think. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
When you were Mayor of Cincinnati... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
-Yes. -1977, is that right? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
1977, '78, yeah. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
What are you doing in that picture? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Well, you know, when you're mayor, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
you also get a lot of ceremonial things to do, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
so it probably was some... | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
Oh, I know. That's when I got circumcised. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
That's when everybody got circumcised. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Is it true about Cincinnati, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
that there is a full abandoned subway system that was never used, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
that's underneath the city, is that true? | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
Yeah, they ran out of money, actually. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
And so it was never completed. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-But, yeah. -So are there stations? | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-Yeah. -So why did they not do it...? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
It was before my time. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
If I were mayor, we would have finished that subway! | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
Quite right. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
From Normandy to Newcastle now, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
we know why you'd take a canary down a coal mine, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
but why would you take a dead fish? | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
Is it one of those fish you put in your hand, you know, | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
you used to get from the shop for a pound? | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
Oh, for fortune telling? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
A fortune-telling fish. So you'd be like, "There is coal here," | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
and it rolls over and goes, "No, the coal-mining industry has gone." | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
Wow, that's like the saddest fortune fish of all time. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
If you brought a live fish down, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
they would be dead by the time you got to the bottom of the mine, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
so this just saves time. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:18 | |
That's true. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
If you want to have a fish at all, just save time by killing it first. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-Right. -Maybe, because in some cultures people eat fish. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
So... Maybe the people in the mine are peckish. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
OK. We're in Newcastle. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
Do they eat fish in Newcastle? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
Oh, yes, they do. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
They have a little fishy on a little dishy when the boat comes in. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
Dance for your daddy, my little laddie. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Is it possible you spend too much time with your small children? | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
OK, so I'm going to give you a clue. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
The fish in the picture is glowing. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
It does something down there | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
that tells you that something's not right, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
and it's time to leave? Similar to the canary. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Well, the canary was used, of course, to work out if there was... | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
Poisonous gases. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
-..if there was poisonous gases. -So the canary would die first. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Absolutely. But in the 18th century in the Newcastle coal mines, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
they used dead fish as lights. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
So some dead fish, not all, glow faintly, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
and they are safer than lamps in mines because of explosive gas. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
Unfortunately, the fish have two putrefy | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
in order to be able to glow, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
so the smell must have been unbelievable. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
But it is called bioluminescence. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
And they glow because of bacteria, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
and it's possible that the bacteria glow | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
to attract living fish to eat the dead fish | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
and that helps the bacteria to spread. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:36 | |
-That is incredible. -Yeah. Cunning bacteria. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
And it's been known about for years. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
Aristotle spotted that damp wood glowed, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Pliny the Elder, he recommended using, I like this, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
a walking stick dipped in a jellyfish's glowing slime | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
as a torch. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:51 | |
When Kanye West played Madison Square Gardens, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
-he lit the show just with fish. -Dead fish. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
That's the same as, you know toxoplasmosis, that bacteria, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
and it lives in cats. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
It wants to be in cats. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
But if it can't get in a cat, say it infects a rat or a mouse, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
it will make the mouse not scared of cats any more, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
so that it's more likely to be ate by a cat. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
-Are you making this up? -No. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
They have found that human beings who have toxoplasmosis | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
are more likely to have car crashes, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
so the bacteria is trying to kill you | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
so that a cat will find you. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
-LAUGHTER -It's true. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
Is this why we have these books, to write this down? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
It's also to write down what medication Cariad is on. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Toxoplasmosis, guys. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:35 | |
It is absolutely true what Cariad is saying. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Absolutely true. The world is so extraordinary, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
there are lots of sea creatures that glow | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
when they are disturbed by a boat's wake. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
So that glows. And this is a serious issue, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
so in World War I, there was a German submarine tracked and sunk | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
because it had disturbed enough bioluminescent organisms. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
We could see where it was? | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Exactly. It glowed from the surface. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
And there is bacteria that's now been engineered to glow brighter in | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
polluted water so you can tell if water has been polluted. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
-Yeah, usually you can smell it. -Yeah, there is that! | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
And they can also use it in various ways, for example, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
they can inject mice | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
with a genetically-modified glowing herpes virus. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
And who hasn't wanted to have that at some point? | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Scientists can examine how it moves through the body. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
No, I don't know why it's glowing, honey. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Just one of those things. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
You get up in the night, and you don't need to put the light on. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
I can just find my way. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
Jerry, did you know the phrase "carrying coals to Newcastle"? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
Is it a phrase with which you are familiar? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
No, we don't say that in the States. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
So, anybody here know this phrase? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
They've got coal, they know about coal, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
you're giving them something they've already got. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
So the idea is that you take it to an area that there's already lots of. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Oh, it's like taking sand to the beach. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
-Yes, exactly, or cheese to Wisconsin. -Got it. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
Here's the thing - since the coal industry's decline, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
the young seem unfamiliar with this phrase. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
So we're just going to try a little experiment. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
I would like you, audience, to put your hands up if you were | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
familiar with the phrase carrying coals to Newcastle. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
And now, can you put your hands down if you're aged over 30? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
Wow, it's hardly anybody. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
It's a commonplace idiom that seems to have died out pretty much | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
-in one generation. -Wow. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
The Danes say "give bagerborn brod", | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
which means "give the baker's children bread." | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
The Greeks has a wonderful one. It is "bringing owls to Athens". | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
So, first of all, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:29 | |
the owl used to roost in the rafters in the Parthenon. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
It was sacred, the owl, to the patron goddess Athena, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and it featured on the beautiful, beautiful silver coins. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
So there was no point in bringing owls to Athens, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
either the real birds or the coins, because that would be pointless. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
They had plenty. We should think of some new ones, shouldn't we? | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
If we can't have coals to Newcastle, what else could we have? | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
Fake tan to Essex. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
What about bringing the footballer Andrew Cole to Newcastle? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
Because he used to play for Newcastle. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Well, that's so clever I wish I'd thought of it. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Now for a question on non-employment. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
What is the most painless way of sacking 24,000 people | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
at the same time? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:11 | |
-Don't tell them. -Don't tell them? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
-Don't tell them. -Just don't mention it? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
Are they dummies again? Are they fake employees that never existed? | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
They are. And it did happen. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
So, it was February, 2016. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
Nigeria sacked 23,846 employees from the government payroll, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
all for the same offence - they didn't exist. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
And the move saved £8 million a month. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
They were ghost workers. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
It's a common problem, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
you get real workers collect fictional colleagues' payrolls. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
In 2011, a newborn baby was added to the government payroll | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
and got £90 a month, and a diploma. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:44 | |
You can get high office as well. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
In 2007, Andre Kasongo Ilunga became the Minister of Foreign Trade | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
despite the fact that he was entirely fictional. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
The Congolese law is that there has to be two candidates | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
for any ministerial post. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
So there was a politician called Kasimba Ngoi, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
and he really wanted the role. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
So what he did was he invented a fake rival, this gentleman. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
-And the fake guy won? -Well... | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Kasimba assumed that the Prime Minister | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
would choose the person he'd heard of. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
But, unfortunately for Mr Ngoi, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
the Prime Minister disliked him intensely | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
and chose the fictional Mr Ilunga. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Mr Ngoi later claimed that Ilunga had resigned. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
But the Prime Minister said he would only accept | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
the resignation in person. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Eventually, Ilunga was sacked. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
-Possibly for non-attendance. -For not turning up. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
But there was a guy, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
a Spanish water board employee called Joaquin Garcia, he bunked off work... | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
Well, we don't exactly know, but it certainly was over six years | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
that he bunked off and read the Dutch philosopher Spinoza. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
And the water board thought that the council was employing him | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
and the city council thought that he was working for the water board, | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
and it was only noticed that he hadn't turned up when | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
he was awarded a special award for two decades of loyal service... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
-..and nobody could find him to give it to him. -Yeah. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
That happened in Bristol. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
By the zoo there's a car park and this guy, every day, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
would collect, like, £3 to park your car, and then one day he wasn't | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
there and some people were like, "Oh, where's Jeff at the car park?" | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
And they said to the zoo, "Where's your car park attendant?" | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
They were like, "We don't have a car park attendant." | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
And he had been doing this for, like, 15 years, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
so he'd obviously just collected £3 in a really busy car park, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-taken the money and done a runner. -Yeah, it's a great story. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
-It's unfortunately an urban myth. -Oh, no! -I know! | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
-JERRY: -Oh, it's not true? -Is it definitely not true? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
No, it is definitely not true. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
I've had several people tell it to me, though. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
-I hate when several people lie. -I know! | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
People from Bristol who'd said they'd met him. Damn those liars! | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
I don't know, I think you're deflecting. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
I now don't trust anything you say. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
-I'm actually Kanye. -Oh! | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
And you heard it here first. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Now, which is worse, death or Norfolk? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
Well, you could leave Norfolk. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Yes, that's a very good point. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
But it's not the English county of Norfolk that we are talking about. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
Sometimes I think the questions on this show | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
aren't quite what they seem. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Let me give you a clue, OK. So which newly-discovered continent, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
beginning and ending in A, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
were most British convicts transported to in the 18th century? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Australia. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Or Australasia. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
No, not Australasia. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
Antarctica. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
-Not Antarctica. -America. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
You are absolutely right. So 1718 to 1775, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
they were sent exclusively to America, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
at least 52,000 of them. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
It wasn't America yet. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:57 | |
No, it wasn't even America yet. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
And some people estimate that as many as a tenth of the migrants | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
to America during that period were, in fact, British convicts. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
And Australia was only used after | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
the American War of Independence broke out | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and everybody thought, "What a dangerous place. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
"Let's send them somewhere else." | 0:18:10 | 0:18:11 | |
Is that the best image we could find for 52,000 people going to America? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
It looks like the Ark. It looks more like it ought to have animals on it. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:20 | |
But the Norfolk we are talking about is in Australasia, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
which is what you mentioned. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
It's a tiny little island called Norfolk Island. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
And in 1825, it was established as a penal colony for a penal colony. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
So it was for people who had committed crimes | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
while already serving a sentence in Australia. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
Not a place that anybody wanted to go. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
In fact, people who were sentenced to death on the mainland | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
thanked God that they were not going to Norfolk Island. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
Some people hated the island so much, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
they openly committed capital crimes. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
They openly would kill somebody just to be taken back to Sydney | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
to be tried and executed, because it was so horrendous. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
-Have you been to English Norfolk, Jerry? -No, I haven't. -Never? | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
It's fantastic. It's really, really beautiful. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It has places called Misery Corner, Vinegar Middle, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
and there's also a place called Tuzzy Muzzy. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
There used to be a place called Nowhere, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
in which 16 people lived in 1861. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Sadly, now it's nowhere to be found. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
It's the last place in Britain where people regularly ate swan. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
So if you walk along the river - is it the Wensum? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
-You can see the swan pits. Anybody tried swan? -No. -Eaten swan? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
Not allowed, are you? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
Well, you can if you are... | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
-Quick. -If you're quick. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
If you're going to dinner at St John's College, Cambridge, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
you can eat swan. But, no, you're not normally allowed to. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
But they have become a sort of wonderful symbol of love, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
and in Boston Public Gardens there are two swans, Romeo and Juliet, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
who have been together over a decade, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
who represent love to the City of Boston. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
It was found out recently they should have been called | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
Juliet and Juliet, so... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
There we are, just one of those things. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
In which country is the very highest peak of the Alps? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Isn't Mont Blanc the tallest? | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
-OK, so where is that? -Where is it, Matt? | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
Italy, I think. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-Yeah, it's on the border. -It is, exactly on the border. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
The French-Italian border, in fact, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
passes directly over Mont Blanc's peak. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
The very highest peak of the Alps is not there. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-Not Mont Blanc? -Neither in France, nor in Italy. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
-Switzerland? -So we'll go for Switzerland. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
I want you to think, unlikely, and I want you to think, you know... | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
like a flat place. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
Is it that the Alps go much further? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
No, it's in the Netherlands. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
-Really? -There was a Swiss geologist called Horace-Benedict de Saussure, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
born in 1740, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
he led the very first expedition up Mont Blanc. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
When he got to the top, he took the top as a souvenir. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:41 | |
It is now in the Teylers Museum in Haarlem in the Netherlands. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
I'm going to guess it's not quite that big. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
And it's not floating in a museum. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
He was a fantastic polymath, de Saussure. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
He's really worth looking up. He did so much for women's education, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
because he educated his daughter, Albertine. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
He's also described as the inventor of climbing, or alpinism. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
On his expedition, he took two frock coats, several waistcoats, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
his slippers, two cravats, a bed, a blanket, a mattress, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and 18 guides. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:09 | |
He was the one who got to the top. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Did he invent climbing? | 0:21:13 | 0:21:14 | |
-Well, he invented... -People were climbing in the Alps before, | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
and he came along and went, "I will call this climbing." | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
People must have been climbing before then, yeah. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
Probably the same guy who told you the story about the parking lot. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Yes. Boys making things up. It's not right, is it? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
-Probably several people said it. -Several people! | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
You've never had that on your show, have you? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
-People making things up? -That would be so wrong. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
That would be very wrong, Jerry. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
It would be a good topic for the show, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:40 | |
"My friend claims he invented climbing." | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
And the women who love him, yeah. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
You can say any sentence in the world, and as long as you add | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
-"and the women who love him"... -Yeah. -..then you've got a show. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
My Labrador, and the women who love him. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
There you go. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
So, the highest point of the Alps may be in the Netherlands. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Where is the highest point of the Netherlands? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
Well, a lot of it's below sea level, isn't it? It's not high at all. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
Yes, but it might not be necessarily in the low areas. Where might it be? | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
Have they got a colony of some kind? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
-They have a municipality. -In Africa. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
-No, it's in the Caribbean. -Oh, nice! -Yeah. -Oh, the Caribbean, nice. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
-There's an island called Saba... -Oh, lovely. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
I say island, it's pretty much just a volcano. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
It's 887m high - it is nearly three times higher | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
than the tallest bit of the European Netherlands. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
The highest bit of the Netherlands is in the Caribbean. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
There's a Dutch province called Drenthe and the highest point | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
in Drenthe is a 56m-high VAM-berg - | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
so that is a landscaped former rubbish dump. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
This thing of taking the top off, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
so there was an artist called Oscar Santillan in 2015, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
and he removed the topmost inch of Scafell Pike. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Can't they just leave these tops there? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
-Why are they taking them off? -I know. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
He made everybody very cross in Cumbria, the managing director, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Ian Stephens, of Cumbrian Tourism said, "This is taking the mickey. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
"We want the top of our mountain back." | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
Yeah, you'd get a mohel for that. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
A mohel? That's a Jewish gentleman who does circumcision? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
That's right, yeah. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:11 | |
Yeah, that's painful. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
It happens when you're eight days old, so in theory, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
-you don't remember it. -But you two are both in pain still. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
I'm still limping, yeah. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
I don't care if it was a subway station, I'll remember it. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
Wow, I'll never see Highgate station the same way again. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
So much for some big features in the nation of the Netherlands. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
But what is Britain's biggest national secret? | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
If we tell it, it won't be a secret any more. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Ah, well, that is true, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
and that was the thing that worried people for a long, long time. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
-So we're in London. -Right. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
-So... -Was it the London Tower or something? | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
It is a tower. Tower is right, Jerry. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Is this some enormous building that isn't supposed to...? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Yes, there is an enormous building | 0:23:54 | 0:23:55 | |
that was a secret for years and years. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:57 | |
-The Gherkin. -The BT Tower. | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
The BT Tower is exactly right. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
It was built in 1965, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
it was considered such an important part of the telecoms infrastructure | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
that it was classified as an official secret. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
What?! | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Because no-one can see it! | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
No, it was Britain's tallest building, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
it contained a public viewing gallery, and a revolving restaurant. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Nevertheless... | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
I went to that place once for a charity event. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
And Rick Astley was singing. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
It was wonderful. And I went to the loo, which is in the middle, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
and when I came out of the loo it had revolved, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
and I came out right on stage next to him. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
He was going... # Never going to give you up... # | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
It was technically illegal to take photographs of the tower | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
under the Official Secrets Act. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
It wasn't included in any Ordnance Survey maps | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
until the mid-1990s. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
In a 1978 case a judge would only refer to it as location 23, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
and in 1993 the MP Kate Hoey | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
spoke in parliament to state the location, she said, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
"I hope I that I am covered by Parliamentary privilege | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
"when I reveal that the British Telecom Tower does exist, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
"and that its address is 60 Cleveland St, London." | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
But the restaurant was fantastic. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
Did you ever go to the revolving restaurant? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-No. -It was just glorious. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
And in 2009, BT said they were going to reopen it, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
and anybody who's ever had a promise from BT | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
will know that'll never happen. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
You get a lot of e-mails saying your order's on its way. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
But the location of the Post Office Tower not the worst-ever | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
breach of national security. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
So, the English historian Peter Hennessy, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
in 1963, the 25th June, he said | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Britain was left entirely unguarded against nuclear attack because | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
every single screen of the Ballistic Missile Early Warning System | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
was tuned to the cricket. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
What's the best cure for nostalgia? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Is it actually living in the actual past? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
And staying there? | 0:25:58 | 0:25:59 | |
And then you don't need nostalgia, cos you're still living in it. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
But wouldn't you be nostalgic for the hundred years before that? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Would there not be a period...? There's always going to be a period. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Like, even the Dark Ages. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Do you get nostalgic, Jerry? | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
Yeah. Smell. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
If you smell something, it brings back a memory. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
-Straight away, isn't it? -Cigarettes in pubs. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Do you miss them? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
-Oh, yeah. -Smell affects your memory part more than sight, or touch, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
or anything. It instantly affects your memory. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
My wife, when she smells beer on me, she knows where I've been. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
Are there things you're nostalgic for, Alan? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
I'm not a nostalgic person, no. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
-That's probably good. -I think the future's going to be great. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
The past, whatever. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
I'm nostalgic for when Alan used to be nostalgic. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
-That was a lovely time. -Those were the days. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Well, in the 18th and 19th century, it was seen as a deadly disease... | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
-Really? -..to be nostalgic. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
It was known as Schweizenkrankheit, or Swiss illness, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
because Swiss soldiers were apparently particularly prone to it. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
And in the American Civil War, more than 5,000 men were diagnosed | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
with nostalgia and 74 allegedly died from it. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
In fact, the Unionist army was forbidden | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
from playing Home Sweet Home in case it brought on an attack. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
No doubt the past makes you upset. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
I found, when I wrote my book, this is not a plug, it's out of print. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
No-one bought it. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
It was part-memoir, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:26 | |
that meant a lot of going back through childhood memories. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
And it's not pleasant, it's not nice. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
It's much better to look forward - it hasn't happened yet, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
you can invent it. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
The only one thing I would like to have is my grandmother's trifle. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
Oh, was it particularly good? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
It was so good. She died in 1974, and it went with her. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
-No-one knew how to make it. -Have you tried to recreate it? | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
I don't even know how she did it. No-one knows. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
Grannies everywhere, write down all your recipes | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
so that we can continue to have them. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
Funnily enough, I just bought a book for my kids | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
for all the things that I've learnt from previous generations, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
and I'm starting to write the recipes down. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
Yeah, I think that's a good idea. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
So if you've just tuned in, | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
this evening's episode was a tribute to Cariad, | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Jerry, Sandi and Alan, who all very sadly died of nostalgia. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
So they still haven't worked out what the best cure is. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
A Russian general came up with it in 1733. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Vodka. Did it involve vodka? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
It didn't involve vodka. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
What he did was, he warned the troops | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
that the very first man | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
to come down with a case of nostalgia would be buried alive. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
And cases plummeted. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
The suspected causes of nostalgia | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
were unfulfilled ambition, poor hygiene, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
coming from farming stock, and masturbation. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
Those were the... | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
I've got two of those. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Me too, and I've never been on a farm. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
It was declassified as a disease as late as 1899. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
What was? Oh... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Nostalgia. Yeah. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:02 | |
They say that's still troublesome. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
I miss it. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
Actually, it can be useful. It is thought to protect, slightly, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
against cold. So people can stand the pain of icy water for longer | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
-if they focus on nostalgic memories. -Who writes this stuff down? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
So you mean if you're trapped in a freezer by a gangland criminal | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
you just say to someone, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:21 | |
"Do you remember when we weren't trapped in this freezer?" | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
You're going to make it. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
I think you have to think about Grandma Davies's trifle. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
Oh, I see what you mean, yeah. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
The weird thing was, when we went round to her house there weren't | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
enough chairs round the table, | 0:29:32 | 0:29:33 | |
so she would produce this stool from... | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
I was going to say stool! | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
I mean, some things probably keep to yourself. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
It was an actual stool! | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
It was an actual stool, it wasn't a...you know. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
She was your grandma and you loved her! | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
-And that's all that matters today. -Here you are. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
It's a stool. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
And we all wanted to sit on the stool, | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
even though it was the wrong height for the table and was uncomfortable. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
Why did you want to sit on it? | 0:30:03 | 0:30:05 | |
I don't know, it was different from a normal chair. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
As soon as one kid wants the stool, everyone wants the stool. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:12 | |
I'd like the stool and the trifle. Everything else can... I don't care. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
Now for something completely different. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
Alan. Are you a narcissist? | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
I know I don't like looking at myself. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
I would take either of those two lives ahead of my own! | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
Yes or no, are you a narcissist? | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
No, I'm not. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:37 | |
That is correct. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
And this is a complete reversal of the usual format, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
because whether you said yes or no, we are going to give you two points. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
-Oh. -And that is because in the standard modern test for narcissism, | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
research shows that narcissists feel so good about themselves, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
they don't mind admitting it. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:54 | |
So if you think you are a narcissist, then you are. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
Would you say that you were a narcissist? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Yes. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Totally fine. What about you, Jerry? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Would you say you're a narcissist? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:05 | |
No, I've got a mirror, that depresses me. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
I mean, you're asking the star of the Jerry Springer Show! | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
-CHANT: -Jerry! | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
Me, a narcissist? | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
What about yourself, Cariad? A narcissist? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
I wasn't until I got my own theme tune, and now I might be. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
So, the thing about narcissists, they rate themselves. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
They think that they are particularly intelligent, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
attractive, likeable, funny. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
They also think that they are unusually power-orientated, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
impulsive, arrogant, prone to exaggeration, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:34 | |
but they just don't care. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
-Oh, now you've listed it, yeah, now I am one, yeah. -Yeah, one of those. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Apparently we are in the midst of a narcissism epidemic. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Oh, I think we are. Look at the selfie - | 0:31:42 | 0:31:43 | |
I mean, that is the ultimate. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
We live in the most narcissistic time of all. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
The whole social media thing is... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:48 | |
This is a very, very narcissistic time. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
It's definitely for us five to cast judgment, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
as we sit here talking, and those people just listen to us. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
Let's do a quick test. Have a look at this pole, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and I want you to tell me whether you are taller or shorter than it. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
So, let's start with you, Cariad. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
I'm just assuming I'm shorter because I'm shorter | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
-than most things. -Shorter. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
Jerry, you think taller or shorter than that pole? | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
-I'm shorter. -Shorter. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
-Boys? Alan? -I'm exactly the same height as it. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Exactly the same height. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
I'm going to go with shorter. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
It is interesting, because none of you asked me | 0:32:22 | 0:32:24 | |
how tall the pole is at all, and we have no clue how tall it is. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
But powerful people will tend to perceive themselves as taller. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
So Alan's the nearest to a narcissist that we've got. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
But maybe they're tall people. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
Maybe all the powerful people are tall and that's the problem. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
You think there are no powerful small people in the world? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
-No... -Well, I'll have you know you could lose with such a remark! | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
I went to university with a very beautiful girl. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
She just thought she looked normal, she didn't realise how the world | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
perceived her, that everybody would literally see her and just smile. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
If she didn't have enough money at a cafe, they'd be like, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-"You're so beautiful, just don't worry about it." -Wow. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
-Do you know what happened to her? -She's very happily married. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
-Yeah. -I wanted it to have turned out shit, didn't you? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:03 | 0:33:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
In mythology, of course, we get narcissism from... | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
Narcissus gazing in a pond. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
That's a beautiful picture by John William Waterhouse. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
He became so transfixed by his own reflection | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
that he was unable to drag himself away, and he stayed there, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
and was eventually transformed into a flower. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
What flower was he transformed into? | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
Oh, self-raising! | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
-What did you say? -A narcissi? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
No, it's one of those weird things, it's not connected. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
So you'd think that the scientific name for the daffodil is connected, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
but in fact, that's related to the narcotic quality of the bulb. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
Did he turn into a lily? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
We don't know. We've no idea. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
So why did you ask us, then? You don't even have the answer! | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
Some things are unknown, Matt. That's OK. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
What's curious about him is that he seems to have bothered to wear a hat. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
It's a big hat, below his elbow there. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
-The painter's tribute to his mother, his grandmother. -Yeah. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
He could have put a stool there... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
Anyway, moving on, now... | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
He has five faces and bigger sperm than you. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:14 | |
CARIAD LAUGHS | 0:34:14 | 0:34:15 | |
-Not really talking to you, Cariad, in this instance. -OK. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Five faces... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
-Is it a type of fish? -It is a creature. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
Oh, so it's not just some old actor with a lot of face-lifts. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
-Just one after the other like that. -Yeah. -Er, no. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
-A pyramid... -A pyramid? | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Well, the Egyptian pyramids. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
I mean, that has five sides. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Yeah. It's more of a creature than, erm... | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
It is fair to say more of these, probably, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
than almost any other creature. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
Is it a bacteria? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:48 | |
It is not a bacteria, no, but it can be very, very tiny. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Is it a type of beetle or insect? | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
It's called a nematode and it is a kind of roundworm, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
and they are extraordinary. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
So, there is one - there it is! Pristionchus borbonicus. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
It grows one of five different faces as it matures, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
depending on whether it's going to eat microbes or other worms. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
It's called polyphenism and it's when animals change their form, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
they change into different forms depending on the environment. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
OK, here is the really extraordinary thing about the nematode - | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
we know about more than 20,000 species, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
so then compare that with 5,000 mammals. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
But some scientists believe that there are more than | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
a million undiscovered species, and they are everywhere. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
Some of them are so small that it would take 20-30 of them lying | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
end to end to equal the thickness of a single average coin. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:37 | |
There are some species that live exclusively in vinegar, | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
in book-binding glue... | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
There are some that use slugs as taxis. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
They do, they use slugs as taxis to carry them to a new food source. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
They're cheaper than Uber, I guess, aren't they? | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
And their sperm is bigger than human sperm. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
-What, all nematodes? -Oh, yeah? -Not all of them. -I was going to say. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
-Fight, fight, fight! -Do they get one of their sperm | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
and lob it at the female? | 0:35:59 | 0:36:00 | |
So, not the tiny, tiny little ones, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
but the very first one that I talked about. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
Why might bigger animals produce smaller sperm? | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
I can't tell you how many times I've asked that question. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Because the bigger animals have got less to prove. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
No, the bigger you are, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:19 | |
the more sperm you need to produce to increase the odds that you're | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
going to make one, that is the thing, so you need lots of them. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
-Tiny animals can produce fewer sperm... -Oh, I see. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
..so they can make them much bigger. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
But don't you love the idea they use a slug as a taxi | 0:36:28 | 0:36:30 | |
to get them to a new food source? | 0:36:30 | 0:36:31 | |
So, they get themselves eaten, they travel to a different bit of | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
the garden, they are then excreted and they have this... | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
-How do they not get digested? -Because they have a cuticle, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
a sort of thick skin that is totally resistant to both acids and alkalis. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
That's what you need when you get on the Tube. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
A big thick skin to protect you. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
-So they avoid being digested. -Wow. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
Anyway, now it's time for our weekly brush | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
with general ignorance. Fingers on buzzers, please. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
Which of these two men has stronger muscles? | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
'I can't believe you've just said that!' | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
Well, the one on the right certainly has bigger muscles, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
but maybe the muscles on the left are stronger | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
because they're not as strong, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
and yet they're still working. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
Stop now! Stop now, you're doing so well. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
-Or is the answer, we just don't know? -No. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
Pound for pound, body-builders have weaker muscles than normal people. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
So one of the reasons body-builders are so strong | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
is that they have a large amount of muscle. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
But the muscles they do have are, in fact, weaker. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
Here is the thing. If you don't have muscles, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
but you have a really good imagination, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
you can exercise your muscles. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
So say your hand is in a cast. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
You can prevent yourself from losing muscle mass | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
by simply imagining yourself using your hand muscles. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
-Wow! -Well, I'm just imagining myself winning the show. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I'm imagining myself using my hands. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
-Moving along, erm... -With prosthetic limbs, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
if you lose a limb, and you know you have phantom pains often? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
So if they've lost a hand they still feel it. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
They get a mirror and if they wiggle that hand but use the mirror | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
to make it look like the other hand, their pain goes away. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
So again, you can trick your brain... | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
But do you not think that is the most extraordinary thing, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
how the brain can be used in that way? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
Yeah, it's incredible. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
Yeah, I think it's extraordinary. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
Now, which of Shakespeare's plays wasn't performed at first | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
because it was believed to be cursed? | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
# Cariad Lloyd... # | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
Is it Richard II | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
because the language was so provocative? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
It's a good choice, but it is not Richard II. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:26 | |
Is it Midsummer Night's Dream, in which I played Bottom, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
and got the best reviews of my career? | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Er, no. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
Is it the one that was playing when the Globe was burnt down? | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
It is the one that was playing. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
Oh, No Sex, Please, We're British. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
That's it! | 0:38:41 | 0:38:42 | |
Run For Your Wife! | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
1613, it was a production of Henry VIII. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
I was going to say Henry VIII! | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
It was the very first recorded performance at the Globe, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
and they fired a cannon as one of the special effects, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
and it hit the straw of the thatched roof | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
and the theatre burnt down. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:56 | |
I have to say nobody was injured, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:57 | |
the only risk to life was one man's britches caught fire | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
and his friend put him out with a bottle of beer. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
Theatres used to burn down all the time. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
And one theatre was burnt down about four or five hundred years ago | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
because one guy advertised | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
that he could squeeze himself into a quart bottle on stage. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
And so thousands of people turned out to see him, and when it was... | 0:39:17 | 0:39:21 | |
Weirdly, he couldn't do it. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
Weirdly, he couldn't do it, and there was a riot, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
and the theatre burnt down. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
-Why don't they do that on Britain's Got Talent? -Yeah. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-Have you been to the Globe Theatre that was rebuilt? -No, I haven't. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Oh, it's absolutely fantastic, it's really wonderful. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
And what I loved about it, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
when they were excavating to build the present one, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
they discovered a layer of hazelnut shells and it allowed | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
the rainwater to filter through. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
So when they rebuilt it, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
the theatre sourced 7.5 tonnes of hazelnut shells from Turkey | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
and they were flown over on a military transport plane | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
and used in exactly the same way. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
But what is the play that actors have often treated as being cursed? | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Well, I don't want to say it because it's cursed to say it, but Macbeth. | 0:39:55 | 0:40:01 | |
And the reason you're not supposed to say Macbeth | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
is because, traditionally, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
when repertory companies were doing a play and no-one was coming, | 0:40:06 | 0:40:12 | |
what they would do is quickly put on Macbeth, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
which was in their repertoire, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
because people always came to see Macbeth. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
So if you were putting on Macbeth, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
it was that the thing you really wanted to do was a disaster. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
But, I mean, there have been some examples. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
So, 1947, there was a guy called Harold Norman. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
He was an actor who pooh-poohed the superstition | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
and he was playing the lead in the Scottish play. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
And he died at Oldham Coliseum in 1947 playing Macbeth | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
when he was accidentally stabbed with a real sword. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
1849, there was a British actor called William Charles Macready | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
and an American called Edwin Forrest that were both playing Macbeth | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
at different theatres in New York. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
And their fans rioted as to who was the most successful, | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
and more than 20 people died and more than 100 were injured. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
-My God! -Wow! | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
But nobody was superstitious | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
about the Scottish play in Shakespeare's lifetime. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Name America's biggest fault. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Donald Trump. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:04 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Now, it's not, is it NOT going to be the San Andreas fault? | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
-It is NOT the San Andreas, you're absolutely right. -Yes! | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
It is not even the most dangerous fault line in California. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
So here's the thing, California sits across two continental plates, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
the Pacific and the North American. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
There's dozens of fault lines between them. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
And the maximum size of earthquake | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
that the San Andreas fault could cause is | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
8.2 on the moment magnitude scale. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
The nearby Cascadia Subduction Zone, just off the coast, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:44 | |
is far more dangerous. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
A huge rupture along it could release an earthquake | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
30 times stronger than the San Andreas. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
I mean, that is half as large again as the quake | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
that caused the Indian Ocean tsunami on Boxing Day in 2004, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
so it is a huge thing. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
They estimate a big earthquake would cause a tsunami up to 100 feet high. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Yikes! | 0:42:03 | 0:42:04 | |
Yeah, yikes indeed. And that brings me to the matter of the scores. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
Well, my goodness, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:10 | |
in first place with a magnificent seven points, it's Cariad. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
In second place with minus 26, it's Jerry. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
In third place with minus 36, Matt. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
I'm very proud, thank you. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
And Alan, with a breathtaking minus 56, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
fourth place. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
Our thanks to Jerry, Cariad, Matt and Alan. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
Tonight, I'm going to leave the last word to Jerry. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:55 | |
Watch this show, or I'll kill my dog. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
Just kidding. Just kidding. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
-Take care of yourselves, and each other. -Goodnight! | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 |