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People tell me I've got the toughest job in town, but I'm sure I'd find other things far more difficult, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
so I'm ditching my regular job and trying something completely different. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
This is my work experience, | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
and this week, I'm a paranormal investigator. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
'The closest I've come to seeing a ghost is watching my wife | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
'trying to put on a clean duvet cover, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
'so I floated off to meet Beyond The Grave,' | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
'a team of paranormal investigators who do everything | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
'from ghost-hunting events to private investigations. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
'They knew more about things that go bump in the night | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
'than Mick Hucknall's headboard. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
'A trail of ectoplasm led me to Abergavenny, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
'where I had to switch to night-vision cameras | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
'because the team was in the pitch dark, mid-investigation.' | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
-THEY WHISPER -Hello. -Hello. Leanne? -Yes. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Hiya. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
-Hi, Leanne. -How are you? -I'm all right. How are you? -I'm fine. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
What are we doing here? | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
-We're at the Abergavenny Chronicle in the back attic. -Yeah. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
And we're conducting a paranormal investigation. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
What's a paranormal investigation? | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
It's where we go round to a haunted location | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
and we communicate with spirits, the dead, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
using various bits of equipment which is on the table there. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-Shall we stop holding hands now? -If you want to, yes. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
'I felt as out of place as Justin Bieber at Huw Edwards' 50th. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
'As far as I could tell, Leanne was under the table talking to no-one | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
'and her team were measuring nothing with things.' | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
James, is that you touching Ted? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
Could you do that again and make his tummy light up again, if that was you? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
They've got a teddy under the table. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
It's got various lights and sensors on it, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
and they're encouraging this child, ghost, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
to play with the teddy. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
Right, Rhod, getting quite a bit of stuff under this table. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
And he's playing with the ted under the table. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Do you want to come under the table with me? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
Of course I don't want to come under the table... | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
-GENTLE LAUGHTER -Come on, come on. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
It's nothing against you, Leanne. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:56 | |
'You could fit everything I know about ghosts on Derek Acorah's aura, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
'but Leanne knew more about dead people than a maggot. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
'She showed me the torches she used to chat to people | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
'who are too dead to use Skype.' | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
We've got two knock-off torches here, which have just been set | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
so that they're just off and the slightest bit of movement, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
if somebody was to touch it or tap it, should turn those torches on. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Couldn't that just be one of us moving and the floorboard? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Go. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
-No. -Nothing. God, I hope there wasn't a ghost under there. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
They're dead now, after you thumped them. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
'I've never tried to speak to the undead before, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
'unless you count a brief chat with Jeremy Kyle in the corridor, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
'so this was my chance.' | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
HE SINGS WEAKLY How do you do it if there's anyone there? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
Please...knock. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
You sound like you're working in a Post Office. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
I know, but I don't know how, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
I don't know what voice to use to talk to a ghost! | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
Right, Rhod, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
the best way to do it is think of somebody in your family | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
who's passed over and how you would speak to them | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
if you met them now. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
Grandad, what the fuck are you doing here?! | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
RHOD LAUGHS | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
'Leanne may have looked a bit like Thelma, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
'but I was definitely Scooby Don't. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
'My first attempt to FaceTime the dead had failed.' | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
I arrived very sceptical, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
healthy scepticism. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:14 | |
I'm leaving the same. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
You're going to have to start getting over your scepticism | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
a little bit cos, at the end of this, you're going to be running | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
your own event in front of guests. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
'If I was to have a ghost of a chance of running a ghost hunt, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
'I needed help. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
'Colin and Darren had spent more time looking for things in the dark | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
'than a mole's PA, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
'so I met them at their head office, slash garage.' | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
The other night, we were in a room and there was, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
I think there was James, there was a child spirit under the table... | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
How do you stumble across...? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-How do I, how do you sense it when you go into the room? -Yeah. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
If I walk into a room and I see there's a child in there, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
I've normally seen that child playing around. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
You must be shitting yourself, though. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
No, no, it's nothing to be frightened... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Why is there to be frightened of the dead? What's there to be frightened of the dead? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
Why is there to be frightened of the dead? Cos they're dead! | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:04:05 | 0:04:06 | |
Surely I don't need to explain this basic set-up! | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
'Colin and Darren were a cross between that little woman | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
'in Poltergeist and Ross Kemp. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:12 | |
'They were a right pair of Polterkemps.' | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
They had more devices for bringing people back from the dead than Ann Summers. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
-OK, this is a K2. -So what will affect that? | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Anything that is | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
got magnetic field around it, ie, a mobile phone, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
a walkie-talkie, Wi-Fi, if a taxi goes past outside. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
How do you investigate a ghost at a taxi rank? Is that impossible? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
Well, it would be, especially when they're radioing in. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
The Polterkemps showed me their tackle. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
I haven't learned so much so quickly | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
since that car-boot sale in Longleat. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Torches, K2s, EMFs and something called EVP - | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
electronic voice phenomena. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
Some of the best ways with interactions you'll get, really, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
is on a digital recorder, audio recorders. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
A lot of the time, you'll be asking questions | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
and might not get anything when you're in the room, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
so you're saying, "Can you tell us your name?" | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
You'd leave a bit of a gap, you might get a response on there. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
'The closest I've come to unexplained voice phenomena | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
'is meeting Joe Pasquale, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
'but the Polterkemps had some spine-chilling EVP evidence | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
'from a previous jaunt.' | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
This is an EVP recording that I captured, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
er, Woodchester in Gloucestershire. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
We were calling out on the hallway | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
and this is what we captured on the recorder. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
OK. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
-FEMALE VOICE: -"Leave..." | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
So, tell me what you hear. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
There is a voice saying, "Leave." | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Yes, that's exactly what it is. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Hit me again. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
"Leave." | 0:05:46 | 0:05:47 | |
This is a very posh, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
very higher individual... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
-Sounds like a well-spoken voice. -..that is saying "Leave." -"Leave." | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
You know, I'm still sceptical. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
But I have to do this event in a few days' time | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
and I'm going to do my damnedest to have some kind of experience. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
'Leanne and the Polterkemps felt that my psychic passage was shut | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
'tighter than a snake charmer's suitcase. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
'Whenever THEY felt bunged up, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
'they sought help to open up their paranormal pathways.' | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
So they packed me off to a faraway kingdom, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
amid the clouded valleys of Cwmbran, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
where there lived mystical crystal healer, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
who could harness the cosmic powers of the universe... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Helen. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
What are you hoping to achieve from today's session? | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
I want to see dead people. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
-Right. -RHOD LAUGHS | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
-Is that too much to ask? -Tall order. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
I am supernaturally constipated. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
I need a paranormal laxative. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
-Oh, that's a good way of putting it. -RHOD LAUGHS | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
Before I could undergo such invasive treatment, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
I had to look inside myself | 0:06:50 | 0:06:51 | |
and answer some pretty soul-searching questions. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
Um, marital status? | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
Unhappy. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Any allergies? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Eggs. -Eggs. -Very mild allergy to egg, apparently. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
Is that relevant? | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
No, I don't think I'm going to be rubbing any eggs in, don't worry. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
-So, do you take regular exercise? -No. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-I avoid eggs, but I wouldn't call it exercise. -All right. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
'As Helen's healing hands hovered over my chakras, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
'I felt my whatsits thingummyjig | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
'and my what-do-you-call-it fill up with some sort of stuff.' | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
Sometimes a reiki treatment can bring things to the surface. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
It's a bit like dredging a pond. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I hate to think what I'm like on the inside under the surface. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
Silt, you'll probably find an old shopping trolley... | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Yeah, yeah. That's it. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
'To unblock my psychic U-bend, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
'Helen powered up her cosmic plungers.' | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
'Open sesame!' | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
ECHO | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
'Helen had dredged my chakras and I was open for business. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
'I immediately understood the nature of all consciousness. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
'I was chakrad up to the max. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
'If I was a singer, I'd have been Chakra Khan. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
'If I was a politician, I'd have been Chakra Umunna.' | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
Night-night. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
Night-night. HELEN LAUGHS | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
'Before I left, Helen gave me a rare and valuable stone, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
'an all-seeing, omniscient crystal to guide me | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
'on my perilous journey through the valleys of the undead - | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
'and it was only eight quid.' | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
I'll just ask it to show you your direction for yes. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Please, pendulum, could you show me my direction for yes, please? | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
Your yes looks like it's left-to-right. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
It does look like it's left-to-right. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
-OK. -How's that happening? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-It's your body telling it. -It's very odd. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
I think you might have opened up my channels. Who's that behind you? | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
'I had no idea how it was doing it, but for yes, my crystal | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
was throwing itself around like a sprinter's dick. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
'But when I asked it for a no, it wouldn't budge.' | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
There's nothing happening there whatsoever, is there? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
The pendulum is saying no, it won't to do a no. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
-Or is my no just nothing? -It could be a no is just... | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
How will I tell the difference between my no, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
which is nothing, and nothing, which is nothing? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Mm, good question. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
'Hm. Like the man from Del Monte, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
'my crystal seemed to have a problem saying no.' | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
But I didn't care cos, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
like Peter Stringfellow in a crotchless Mancini, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
I was ready for action. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Leanne and Darren were keen to road test | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
my new psychic superhighway | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
and took me on their next call-out, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
an old stationmaster's cottage near Cardiff, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
where some crazy weird shit | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
was going down for its latest residents, Alex and Abbey. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
There are a couple of, sort of, noises, like bangs and stuff, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
that I couldn't, sort of, really explain what they were. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
That area at the top of the stairs, as well, I just don't feel... | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
-like I'm alone. -OK. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
How sure are you that this isn't just your imagination, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
-just something...? -I'm more of a sceptic than Alex is. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
But, I mean, I wasn't here when all these incidents have happened. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
I get panicked phone calls in work, saying, "Oh, my God..." | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Do you secretly believe Alex is just off on one and you're just | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
doing this, going along with it, just to keep him happy? | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
There is a funny sensation at the top of those stairs, though. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
There is, I have felt something there. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Can I go and check out the top of the stairs? | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
If you want to, you're more than free. More than welcome. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
'One glance at the stairs told me that something | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
'was very, very wrong. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
'But like a footballer stuck in a balaclava, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
'I had to try to stay calm.' | 0:10:17 | 0:10:18 | |
I can't feel anything. I don't know what I was expecting to feel. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
'Witch flaps. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
'I was getting nothing. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:28 | |
'Maybe my psychic pathway had got bunged up again. But I had an idea.' | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
I'm going to try my pendulum. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
I'm going to give this a shot. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Is there a spirit here? | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
So is that a no? | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
Is that a definite no? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Are you saying no? Can you give me a yes if that was a no? | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
Is there a spirit here? | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
Yes. That's a very clear yes. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
But does that mean yes, there's a spirit here, or is that yes, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
that was a no when I first asked you if there was a spirit here? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
No. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
Do you mean no, that wasn't a yes, that there was a spirit here? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
What you mean is no, that was a yes, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
that you were saying no in the first place, yeah? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Yes. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Let me just recap, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:19 | |
yes, that was a no... | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
..that your first answer was a no? | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
NOT...yes, there's a spirit here, yeah? | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Yes. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
Well, that's cleared that up. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
'How the hell was I going to put on a ghost tour? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
'My third eye was crusted over | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
'and my pendulum was as dicky as a Chippendale's tour bus. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
'Determined to experience something, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
'I headed off to another Cardiff callout. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
'Valessa's seemingly normal terraced house was under siege.' | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
What's been happening in this house? | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
It is not me living here with my family. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
It's something else, or lots of them. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Have you got a specific example of something that's happened? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Oh, God. Many, many examples. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Like a few days ago, when I woke up | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
from the feeling that someone is staring at me, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
-you open your eyes... -VALESSA GASPS | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
..and something's standing next to me, watching you. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
'Excited by the Valessa's vivid descriptions, we turned the place | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
'upside down looking for spirits, like Keith Richards in a monastery.' | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
None of the devices are picking up anything at all. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
So, apart from... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
a strong feeling that we're being watched by | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
the entire cuddly toy department of Woolworths... | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Apart from that, we're all right. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
We're all right at the moment, it seems. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Our devices were as quiet as a cat's yawn. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
'But Valessa was getting me all wound up | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
'and my bowels went as loose as a heron's leggings | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
'as we attempted a Crimewatch reconstruction.' | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
-Mm-hm. -Tell me when to open my eyes. -Wake up. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
RHOD SCREAMS AND LAUGHS | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Yes! | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
It was worse than that! | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
I can't believe that I knew you were going to be there | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
and I still screamed! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
-How do you sleep here now? -I have no idea. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
I'm trying, probably laying down with my eyes closed | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
and then...watching, observing. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
Has it ever done anything to you, or...physical? | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
At the top of the stairs, there was something physically pushing | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
and I nearly...flown down. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
-It was terrible. -Can you show me? -Yeah. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
'I still didn't believe it was anything paranormal, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
'but I'm a total coward, as yellow as Charlie Sheen's mattress, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
'and I wanted to get the hell out of Valessa's freaky spook joint.' | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
But you have to stay the night to see it. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
I don't want to be rude, Valessa, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:38 | |
but there is no way I'm staying in your house. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
-Well, you should. -No way! -You should. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
When you speak to somebody like Valessa, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
who speaks with such passion, seems adamant, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
if I WERE experiencing anything that she is, I'd be spooked to Hell. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
I think the fact that I'm so terrified by it and the fact that | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
I refused to spend the night here when offered, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
she keeps saying, "Spend the night here." | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
There's no effing way I would spend the night here. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
And that keeps suggesting to me that I, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
on some level at least, do believe in this stuff. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
Maybe I did believe in it on some level, or maybe I was just scared | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
of the power of the imagination and the very real fear it can create, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
but fear was definitely making me | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
more suggestive to the idea of the paranormal, which was progress. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
'So we decided to ship me up good and proper | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
'and headed into the centuries-old Redcliffe caves in Bristol.' | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
-Why have you brought me...? -Why have we brought you here? | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
Basically because of where it is, it's pitch-black, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
very enclosed, very dark, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
so there's no outside influences in here. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
We're talking about things that can interfere with the equivalent. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
You will be on your own at times. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
We will leave you on your own, with nothing bar | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
-a couple of bits of equipment. -Great. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
I don't think I've ever been more ambivalent in my life. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
I'm split right down the middle between wanting to experience | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
something and definitely not wanting to experience something. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
-Well... -I'm split absolutely down the middle - 99%, 1% - even. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
We headed further down towards a cheery little picnic spot | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
called The Skull Cave, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
where Leanne and Darren had experienced coffin-loads of activity in the past. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
'My stomach may have been in knots, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
'but my arse was definitely working in miles an hour.' | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
I'm feeling quite weird, I don't know. On the one hand, I'm fine. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
On the other hand, I'm really...tense and a bit nervous. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
'All set up in The Skull Caves, Leanne was keen for me | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
'to try to make contact with one spirit in particular.' | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-Have a go at speaking French to Francois for me. -Who's Francois? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
He's a spirit we picked up about three years ago. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
We believe he's a prisoner of war. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-Prisoner of war? -Yes. -Yes. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Francois, et vous ici? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
SYNTHESISED THUMPING SOUND | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I did, I said, "Are you here?" And the torch came on. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
I'll try that again. Francois... | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
THUMPING SOUND | 0:16:07 | 0:16:08 | |
Ay, ay, ay. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
I don't know which is more strange at the moment, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
the fact that the torch is coming on, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
or the fact that I'm talking French to a ghost! | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
'All alone in total darkness, it was time for the ultimate test. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
'With just a teddy bear, a night vision camera | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
'and a dead Frenchman for company, my whole body was on red alert. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
'My bum cheeks clenched so tight they could've milled wheat.' | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Francois? | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
After three, I want you to turn the torch on. One, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
two, three. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
SLAMMING SOUND | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
Hello? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
I definitely heard someone over there. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Maybe it was just some water dripping somewhere. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Francois, vous etes ici? | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
THUMPING SOUND OK. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Um... | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
That's quite a strange feeling. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
I'm totally alone, total darkness, total silence, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
but that torch just came on. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
'The torches weren't responding every time, but the whole time | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
'I'd been down there, they hadn't come on once without me asking.' | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
It's very odd that even though I don't really believe, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
I'm still totally heightened, totally on edge. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
OK. INDISTINCT SOUND | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
Hello? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:31 | |
Darren? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Leanne? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
There's definitely somebody down there. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
'Everything you can see is from the night-vision camera, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
'but I was in total darkness. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
'My imagination was having a field day and I was close to losing it.' | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
INDISTINCT NOISE | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
Hello? Nath? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Rhys? | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
OK, I'm hoping that's one of the camera crew. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
I'm a bit too scared of this now. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
There's something down there. If it is one of the camera crew, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I'm going to kick the fucking living daylights | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
out of them when I've finished. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
If it's not, then... | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
NOISE IN BACKGROUND | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
Guys? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
SYNTHESISED SOUND Who is it? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
-WHISPERING: -It's Nathan. -Oh. Oh... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
It's Nathan, it's the cameraman. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
Bloody hell. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
What are you doing? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
'Outside, my senses restored, I regained my composure | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
'and when the colour returned to my bum cheeks, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
'I restored my factory settings of sceptic.' | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
So I'm going into the event knowing what to do, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
knowing how to get ourselves all psyched up and knowing how | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
to call the spirits and how to monitor them... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
just still not believing in them. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
RHOD LAUGHS | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
'Before my big ghost hunting event, there was one last chance | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
'to challenge my scepticism. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
'Leanne and Darren had reviewed all the audio recordings | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
'from my house visits and my bum-grinding night in the caves, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
'and were keen for me to hear what they'd found.' | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
So, you went through all the audio tapes? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I've gone through the two home visits, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
all the audio from the caves, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
all the video from the caves... | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
You've sat here, listening to all of that? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
How long did that take? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
Doing all that, about five days to go through. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
Mainly, presumably, just listening to silence? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
-Basically, just... -RHOD LAUGHS | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
..listening, basically, to the investigation again. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
On behalf of all the people watching this at home, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
you are fucking mad. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
RHOD LAUGHS | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
It's called dedication. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
-That is so dedicated. -Because you just want to get something. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
Why are you spending so long looking for... | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
evidence of something that you believe in? | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Just for the fun of it. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Cos, it... Yeah, it's a buzz. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
When you actually get something, it's a real buzz | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
cos you think, oh, yeah, brilliant. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:56 | |
The why, for people watching at home, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
-is cos it's a buzz when you find that one second... -Yes. -Yes. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
'To me, five days listening to nothing was the most pointless | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
'waste of time since the OJ Simpson trial, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
'but Leanne and Darren clearly enjoyed it | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
'and I was about to get a taste of the buzz THEY got | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
'when they played me a spine-chilling piece | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
'of incontrovertible evidence.' | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
INDISTINCT BEEP | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
To me it doesn't sound like a noise that you had made previously. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
-I certainly don't remember... -Making funny... -..going... | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
HE MIMICS THE SOUND | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
-I can't explain it. -Let's have it again. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
INDISTINCT BEEP | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
LEANNE MIMICS THE BEEP | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
I know none of my equipment makes that noise. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
It was a more of a controlled environment. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:44 | |
-Are you telling me, Leanne and Darren... -Mm? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
..that I sat in that cave on my own, shitting my pants, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
that you've sat here since, after work, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
-listening to this for 50 hours? -Yes. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
What we have to show for it is... RHOD AND DARREN MIMIC THE BEEP | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
-Could be, yes. -Yeah. You're lucky to get that. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
-There's... -It is a buzz, you're right. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
-It's just little bits and pieces... -Yes! -I'm joking! I'm joking! | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
Judgment day. The 150-year-old Abergavenny Theatre | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
would play host to my big ghost-hunting event. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
'In case there were still leaves on my psychic train line, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
'I took a minute ghost hound as a backup.' | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
I've brought my dog, Rosie. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
I've renamed her Scooby Doodle. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
She's half Scooby-Doo, ghost-hunting dog, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
and half labradoodle. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Apparently dogs can sometimes be useful because they have | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
different instincts and they can sense things that we can't. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
'The team were busy setting up. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
'Soon, 25 ghost-botherers would be floating this way, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
'expecting me to lay on an all you can poo your pants spook buffet, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
'and I had high hopes cos Colin's ghost star was already twitching.' | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
I'm picking up stuff now here, myself. Just getting a sense. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
You're picking up stuff here now? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:54 | |
It's like butterflies all the way over, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
so that's normally an instinct to me that something's present, | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
or something's interested in what, what's going on here. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Are you going to rule it out with a Rennie, first? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Rhod! | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
'I looked the part, but, even in the right gear, | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
'I was no more a paranormal investigator | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
'than David Dickinson in a headband is Wonder Woman, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
'but I was determined to do my best. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
'Armed with a K2 meter, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
'Scooby Doodle and I headed to the basement | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
'to check for paranormal hot spots.' | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
What is it, Rosie? What is it? ROSIE BARKS AND WHIMPERS | 0:22:22 | 0:22:28 | |
Rosie. ROSIE GROWLS | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
Hello, Rosie. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:32 | |
Have you found any ghosts, Rosie? ROSIE BARKS | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
'Bumping into Lembit Opik like that had freaked Scooby Doodle out, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
'but I doubted my guests would be so easily spooked | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
'so I continued my search. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
'My dog was a right scaredy-cat - | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
'she made Scooby-Doo look like Winston Churchill - | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
'but there was one room that got us both hot under the collar.' | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
Is there something in this one? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Why won't you go over that threshold? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
I agree with you, this is the scariest one. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
Come on, you've pulled me all around these cellars | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
and now you won't go in. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
I'm trying to stay rational and logical, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
but I've never seen Rosie like this. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
With this one, she literally won't even cross this threshold. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
'Scooby Doodle wasn't the only one whose third eye was winking. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
'The K2 meter was lighting up like a Friday night on Hampstead Heath.' | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
I'm picking up EMF in here. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
It's the first place I've picked it up in the middle of a room. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
Normally, I've only picked it up | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
when I've shoved this right up against some electrical equipment. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
There's no doubt in my mind | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
that this is potentially the most fruitful area. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
ROSIE WHIMPERS | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
I don't think there's any doubt in Rosie's mind either. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Scooby Doodle is a bit freaked out. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
Paranormal hot spots identified, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Scooby Doodle and I were ready to welcome | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
our merry band of phantom menaces. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
Cynics, sceptics and believers came one, came all. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
'If we found dead people, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
'tonight, we were going to party like it was 1899.' | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Welcome to my very special paranormal investigation. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
I should point out, before I go any further, | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
that I don't necessarily believe in this stuff. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
I think things can be rationally explained. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
That's my starting point, right? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
We have this argument every night. ROSIE BARKS | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
You know it's what I think. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:13 | |
Having said that, I am open-minded | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and I am here to experience it with you. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Right, we are going to start tonight in the theatre. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
'The first step was to get our psychic juices flowing, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
'so Leanne blew us all away with a rousing performance | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
'of the Ghostbusters theme tune on her Tibetan singing bowl.' | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
BOWL HUMS SOFTLY | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
HUMMING CONTINUES | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
HUMMING CONTINUES | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
SOFT METAL CHIME | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
'With the crowd bouncing, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
'it was time to saddle up our psychic horses | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
'and find us some dead people. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
'First stop, a builder, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
'who had apparently fallen while working on the clock tower. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
'He'd been dead 150 years | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
'and, more importantly, he was a builder, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
'so I was pretty sure he wouldn't turn up.' | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
If Thomas Watkins is out there? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
If... That's if I've got the name right. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
-The builder who passed away. -Rhod? -Yeah? | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
You've got two milligauss. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
Two milligauss. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
I just feel that, every time you say the gentleman's name, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
you seem to get an intelligent reaction back. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
Typical builder, he'll only talk to the blokes. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
'So far, my big event was a mixed bag. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
'To the believers, the place was teeming, the undead wandering | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
'aimlessly through the corridors like a fire drill at BBC Wales. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
'For the sceptics, we'd found nothing convincing. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
'I decided to play my trump card | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
'and headed for the basement and the room that | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
'had made Scooby Doodle piddle a puddle of Scrappy Doo-Doo. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
'I was keen to see if anyone picked up | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
'the unexplained electromagnetic hot spot I'd found earlier.' | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
So, I came down here and did a little recce earlier. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
The levels were going up quite significantly in one spot, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
time and again. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
One of you is very specifically sat in that spot. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
Anyone care to tell me where that spot might be? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
I feel sick. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:13 | |
-You feel sick? -Mmm. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:14 | |
-What, nauseous? -Mm-hmm, and all hot. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-Cos you are sitting in the spot. -OK. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
'Bingo! A direct hit. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
'But, if my ghoul-getters were going to go home happy, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
'I knew we had to make more meaningful contact with the spirit. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
'Cue the scariest game | 0:26:27 | 0:26:28 | |
'since the Broadmoor spin-the-bottle tournament - a Ouija board.' | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
Move that glass. Use your energy. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Use our energy to move that glass in any direction that you like. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
Could you give us a name? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Could you tell us whether you're a man or a woman? | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
'Oh, Ouija believe it? There was no answer. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
'Maybe the afterlife closed in the evenings, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
'but it turned out I was just being held in a queue | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
'and my call must have been pretty important to them | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
'cos it wasn't long before someone picked up.' | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
-SOMETHING RUSTLES -What was that, then? | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
I don't know, I heard a voice. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
That wasn't a stomach. That sounded like... | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
-Yeah, that sounded like a voice. -Yeah, I heard a female voice. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
-It was that side of me. -It was just there? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
But I don't know exactly where it was. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
Where did that noise come from? | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
'The phantom "mmm" was certainly no "boop". | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
'To some, it was just a mobile phone or the central heating. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
'To others, it was the unmistakable sound of | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
'a ghost with a sore throat, sucking on a dead lozenge - | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
'but it wasn't long before we were all getting twitchy.' | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
Well, whoever that was, could you do that again, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
just so we know it was not something...? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
The torch. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
Well, if you don't like using the board, then use the light. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Show us with the light. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
Come away from that light. Turn that off. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
Thank you. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
If there is anyone in here with us, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
could you just give us one...? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Bring the light on now for a yes, please. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Just bring the light on now. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:01 | |
'It was what you make of it. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
'Believers don't need any evidence. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
'For cynics, no evidence is enough. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
'Those of us who are members of | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
'the Paranormal Investigation Sceptics Society - | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
'or PISS, for short - | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
'lie somewhere in-between, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
'and the night hadn't really changed anyone's mind, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
'but that hadn't been the point.' | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
Thanks very much for coming along tonight. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
I hope you've enjoyed it. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
Whether a sceptic or believer, or anything in between, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
I hope you've had a good time. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
I really tried to open myself up. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
I tried to stay open-minded | 0:28:35 | 0:28:37 | |
and I tried to expose myself to everything, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
and I tried my damnedest to facilitate | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
an evening of paranormal investigation. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
It's nearly 3am in the morning, and the team are packing up, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
and... | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:28:48 | 0:28:54 | |
And the really weird thing? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
There's not even a bell in that tower. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 |