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We asked you who has left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
when it comes to your holidays. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
And you came back with a catalogue of travel disasters. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
We said, "No, we're going to stick with this | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
"and we're going to try and get something done about it." | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
When you are on holidays, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
you don't want to fight with people, you just want to enjoy. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
or a catch in the small print... | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
We'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:31 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Hello and thank you so much for joining us | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
for a taste of winter sun here on Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Now this time we're in the Canary Islands, investigating more | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
of the holiday stories that you've been kind enough to send us | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
and to look into on your behalf. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
And why sometimes in this series, the reason why a trip has gone wrong | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
is all down to a straightforward, honest mistake. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
I'm afraid that's not the case with the stories | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
you're about to hear today. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Far from it. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:04 | |
There's no mistake, honest or otherwise, in these situations. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
In fact, let's not beat around the bush. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Most of the cases can best be described as out and out scams. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:13 | |
Indeed they are. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:14 | |
And whether or not they're designed to catch you out | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
while you're booking your holiday or when you're actually there, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
some of these scams are ones that | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
could very easily be targeted at you. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
So we're going to have plenty of advice to make sure that | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
you know exactly what to do to avoid being tricked out of your cash. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
Coming up... | 0:01:32 | 0:01:33 | |
a long-awaited family holiday | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
grounded by a flight that never took off. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
But had it ever really existed in the first place? | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
I couldn't actually believe it cos we packed everything, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
we planned everything and then it's just got cancelled. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
And booking a holiday home online. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
Could the one you've picked be a scam? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
It was horrible, it was absolutely horrible. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
I realised that we'd been scammed out of £4,000. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
Now, as we know from so many of the stories that we've covered | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
in the past, scammers can strike absolutely everywhere. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
But it's when we're on holiday that perhaps | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
we're a fraudster's favourite target. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
Let's face it, we're relaxed, may not fully understand the language | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
and you're probably not really wise to the tricks | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
that they've been pulling all summer long... | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
and why the sisters in our next film didn't actually consider | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
themselves an easy target. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:25 | |
They weren't banking on a group of people working together | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
to con them out of their cash. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
And worse still, it wasn't until they got home | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
that they discovered the scam had an even nastier sting in the tail. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
Sisters Alma Elliot and Theresa Snelling | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
have always been very close. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
And after Alma's husband died in 2013, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
they decided to take a holiday together to get away | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
from the stresses of all the arrangements. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
I was really exhausted, having to sell, you know, like, | 0:02:52 | 0:02:57 | |
the home we'd had for 20... over 25 years. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
It was quite an emotional time. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
We were working very hard sorting out her house | 0:03:02 | 0:03:07 | |
and so we just needed a break. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
They booked a ten-day holiday in Tenerife and when they arrived, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
straight away set about seeing what the local town had to offer. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
They were looking at sunhats at a beach-side shop called Goodwill | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
when they were approached by two men, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
who told them they had something inside the shop | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
that the sisters might be interested in. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
So, intrigued, the ladies went in | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
and were greeted by a further four men. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
All the people in the shop were very, very friendly | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and really made us feel quite comfortable. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
The ladies were led to the back of the store | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
and one of the men attempted to talk Alma into buying a camcorder | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
made by a manufacturer called Pentasonic. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
He started to give the pair a demonstration of how it worked. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
The man was showing us just what it could do | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
and it seemed quite fascinating | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
and I thought I'd like one. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
In fact, Alma and Theresa were so convinced by the sales patter | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
that they decided to buy one each. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Theresa paid 273 euros, that's just over £200, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
and she paid for that on her credit card, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
while Alma put the same amount on her debit card. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
But instead of being able to take their camcorders | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
with them there and then, the shop manager told them to collect them | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
on the last day of their holiday, after he had translated | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
the cameras' internal menus from Spanish to English. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
Reluctantly, the sisters agreed, but they left feeling very uneasy. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
We realised that we had paid for something that we hadn't got | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
and if we were going to go back on the last day, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
they could come up with, "Oh, there's been a problem." | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
So we thought we would go back early and surprise them. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
And when they did, as well as picking up their camcorders, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
the shop manager also tried to give them a mini-tablet each. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
We said no, we didn't want them | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and we weren't interested in them, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
but they said they were for free. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
But he persisted, claiming that the mini-tablets were part | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
of a special promotion by Pentasonic. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
The only snag was that the tablets would also need to be | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
translated into English and to get their gift, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
the sisters would have to come back to the shop yet again. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
Well, Alma and Teresa agreed, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
but, still feeling unsure about the camcorders they'd bought, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
they popped into another shop nearby, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
looking for reassurance about their purchases. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
And for whatever reason, the manager at that shop told them that, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
yes, they had got an amazing deal. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
We felt a lot happier after being in there, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
because this was a photographic shop | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
and we felt that we weren't being... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
..conned. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
So, reassured, the next day, Alma and Theresa went back | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
to the original shop, Goodwill, to collect their free tablets. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
But before they could leave, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
the manager persuaded the sisters to buy a couple of cases for them. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
When I put my card in, I was checking the amount | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
and I was surprised because it was 88 euros | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
and I thought it was going to be a bit less than that. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
This time, they both paid by using their debit cards. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
But when Teresa asked for her receipt, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
the shop manager insisted that he'd already given it to her. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Well, I was annoyed so I thought, "Well, I'll just make a note, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
"88 euros, I'll see what comes onto my card." | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
They returned home to Somerset confident that, for 361 Euros, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
each of them had got a great deal on a brand-new camcorder, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
tablet and case. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
But Alma's daughter, Beth, helps her mother to manage her finances | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
and regularly checks her Lloyds Bank statements. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
And when she next logged on to her mum's accounts, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
she was appalled at what she found. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
I went onto my mum's bank account | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
and I noticed that she was quite severely overdrawn. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
I could see that the debits were from abroad. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
Over £2,750 had been taken out of her account by the shop, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:19 | |
Goodwill. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
I knew instantly that this wasn't correct. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
Theresa also banks with Lloyds | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
and when she then contacted the bank, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
she was shocked to discover that the shop had taken | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
a total of £5,000 from her bank account and her credit card. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
Suddenly... | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
my world turned upside down. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Because to us, it was as clear as day that we had been scammed. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
Beth immediately looked into how the sisters might be able | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
to get their money back and discovered that, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
because they'd paid with their credit and debit cards, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
they might be able to claim a refund | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
using the little-known chargeback scheme, | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
which can help if there's been fraudulent activity on your account, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
or indeed, you haven't got what you paid for. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
I told them to go into the bank the next day | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
and ask them to initiate the chargeback process. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
And a few days later, when Beth checked Alma's account again, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
she was relieved by what she saw. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
I noticed that she had been re-credited with all the money | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
that had been taken and I was thrilled. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
And I rang her immediately to tell her and then the next call I made | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
was to my aunt because I naturally presumed that the same | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
would happen to her. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
However, this wasn't the case. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Although Theresa was refunded for the fraudulent activity | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
by her credit card company, when she contacted the bank again | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
to check that she, too, would get back the money | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
taken from her bank account, she was given very different news. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
I just cannot understand how the same bank, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
who we've both been with for over 50 years, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
could treat two sisters so differently. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
We weren't told anything, they never gave us a reason. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
It was just decided. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
And Beth is far from impressed with the products the ladies bought. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
As soon as I opened it up, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
I was a little anxious about it and nervous about it. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
We took some footage with it, we tried to connect it to our laptop, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
but we couldn't do that, it didn't work. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
The first thing I did was research it on the internet | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
and sure enough, all my searches came back with warnings | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
about Pentasonic and this not being the camera you believe it to be | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
when you buy it. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
We contacted the Goodwill shop in Tenerife for an explanation. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
As yet, they haven't replied. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
As for the camera manufacturer, Pentasonic... | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
well, we haven't been able to track them down. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
In fact, we couldn't find any evidence | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
that such a company even exists. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
But we also contacted Lloyds Bank to see why one of the sisters | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
had received a refund, while the other didn't. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
And this time, we got a very positive response. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
The bank told us it's "sorry for the experience" | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
that Alma and Theresa had | 0:10:13 | 0:10:14 | |
and it understands the distress that this type of situation can cause. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
It stressed it takes all cases of fraud, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
"Very seriously and always looks into them on an individual basis." | 0:10:21 | 0:10:26 | |
As a result, Lloyds has, "Now reimbursed both customers | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
"for the money that was debited from their accounts," | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
and has also given Theresa an additional £250 | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
for the delay in their decision. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Jane Negus from the UK European Consumer Centre | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
has some pointers on how to protect your money | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
when you're shopping abroad. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
When you buy electrical goods abroad, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
the first thing we would say is that if something is very cheap or, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
you know, somebody is trying to convince you | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
it's a really good deal, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
make sure that is actually the deal that they're saying. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Go off and do a bit of research first before you actually purchase. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
Use a credit card if it's over £100, it will give you added protection. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
If your bank refuse your claim, you can take it further, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
whether it's a debit or a credit card, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and take it to the financial ombudsman. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
And while Alma and Theresa are very relieved to have their money back, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
the entire experience has left a lasting impact. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I suppose my whole view of the world is different now. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
I don't feel it's such a safe place any more. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
Now, we hear a lot from people whose holidays didn't go to plan. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
But whatever went wrong, | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
they did, in most cases, at least get to their destination, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
which is more than can be said for the family we're about to meet. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Because, despite promises and assurances even just hours | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
before they were due to take off, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
they still don't know to this day for certain whether the holiday | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
they booked and paid thousands for had ever really existed. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
Amanda Chin and husband Kok Wah have been running a takeaway | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
in Shrewsbury for the last 14 years. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Hello, Bamboo City. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Yes, for delivery or pick up? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
It's taken many hours of hard work to build up the business, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
and although it's now thriving, Amanda and her family have only ever | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
taken seven days off in all the time they've worked there. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
Since then, the family has hardly been going out anywhere. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
Just working seven days a week, same every day. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
So in July 2014, Amanda decided it was time for the whole family, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
including her grandma, who lives in Malaysia, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
to take a holiday together. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
We hardly see them. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:41 | |
Probably Christmas time or Chinese New Year time. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
This was the first time since they all came to England | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
about 20 years ago. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
And the perfect opportunity seemed to present itself | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
when one of their regular customers, James Brown, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
offered Amanda what appeared to be a great deal. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Mr Brown said he was setting up a new company called | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Wales European Aviation, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
with its own airline, flyWEA. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
He explained the company offered private charter flights and trips | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
and he could put together a package for Amanda and her family. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
He said, "As you're a good friend, we'll do you a good deal | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
"with all the packages and I'll sort everything out for you." | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
James Brown said he could take Amanda and 18 of her relatives | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
to Disneyland Paris for £170 per person. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:31 | |
That would cover two nights accommodation and entry tickets | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
to the park and return flights. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
What's more, they would be able to take the flight | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
from Welshpool Airport, which was just 20 miles away | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
from Amanda's home. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
Children have been asking me almost every year that they want to go | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
to Disneyland because their friends are going there, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
their friends have been there and they haven't been there. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
So it was their very first holiday where they wanted always. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:57 | |
James Brown told Amanda that, in order to get the trip booked, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
he would need all the money, a total of £3,230, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
in cash up front. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
I think I had asked him if I could transfer it to him, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
but he said, "I'll be around, you can pay me cash when it's ready." | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
And he said, "OK, once you've got it, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
"and then I'll come down and pick it up." | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
And then he just came down straight away. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
So, with the holiday paid for, all that was left for Amanda to do | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
was to organise the arrival of her grandma travelling over | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
from Malaysia and try and contain the excitement of the children. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Once we'd paid and everybody was just... | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Actually, the kids started packing, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
they were that excited and getting ready and things | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
and all their lists of what to bring. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
We don't usually go on holiday very often | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
and this was, like, one in years. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
We were going to Disneyland because it would be a good experience | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
because I've never been there before. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
I was looking forward to all the rides and all the characters. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:57 | |
And on the 11th August, their wait was finally over. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
The morning of the holiday had arrived. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
My girls, they hardly sleep that night | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
because they were that excited. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
It was to be an early flight, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
so Amanda made sure she was up and about to get everyone ready | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
and check any final details. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
I came in and checked my e-mail. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Just said, "Urgent message, the holiday had to be cancelled today," | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
cos the plane was still in Spain. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
"It's got a fault so they need to check it out before coming back." | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
The e-mail said that the holiday would simply be delayed by a day. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Amanda tried calling James Brown, but couldn't get through. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
She e-mailed to find out more, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
but then had to break the news to the rest of the family | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
that they wouldn't be taking off that day as planned. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
I thought it wasn't true, like, I thought it was just a joke. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
I thought that my mum was joking. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
I couldn't actually believe it cos we packed everything, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
we planned everything and then it's just got cancelled. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
For the rest of the day, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
everyone waited whilst Amanda tried to get answers. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
There were plenty of e-mails, with lots of updates and excuses, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
but still no plane. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
Finally, at 1am the next morning, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
he said the flight would not be going ahead at all | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
and said they could either change the date or get a refund. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
All the children, just sitting there, in tears and crying | 0:16:11 | 0:16:15 | |
and somewhere in their room. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Everybody's just upset. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
This feels like they were all trusting me at first about all this | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
and then suddenly, all this... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
Behind, they may be thinking I'm part of this, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
I'm trying to rip them off and take their money. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
But, no, it's hard to explain. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
It's nothing to do with me, it's this guy. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
As the family began to come to terms with their disappointment, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Amanda set about trying to their money back. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
I asked him to transfer to my bank and then I gave him my bank details | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
and he said he couldn't make it to the bank. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
And then I said, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
"You can pop it down to me or I can come to pick it up | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
"from you, if it's not convenient for you." | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
But when, over a week later, there had been no sign of James Brown, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
or indeed her refund, Amanda and her family became increasingly angry. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Over the next month, Amanda tried repeatedly to get their £3,230 back, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:12 | |
but with no success. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
All she got was excuse after excuse. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
Then he said he had to go in hospital, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
so it took him a few days and then I got back to him. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
He came back and said... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
..er, he'd been having too much problems with families and companies | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
and that his company has got some financial trouble | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
and then he said he needed to borrow money from his friend to pay me off. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
Two months after she was due to fly, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
Amanda was told by James Brown that his company was being "wound down" | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
and that he was going to borrow money from a friend to pay her back. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
But all the excuses were beginning to wear very thin. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
It was almost every day that people, all the friends and family, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
ringing to ask me, "How's it going? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
"How's the payment? When will we receive it?" | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
I said, "I've never upset so many people in one go, all 19 of you." | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
And that's when Amanda got in touch with us. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
We decided to check out James Brown's credentials, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
to see what chance there had ever been | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
that he could fly the family to Disneyland Paris. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
In order to fly a plane commercially, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
James Brown would need an Air Operator Certificate, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
registered with the Civil Aviation Authority. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
But when we contacted them, they told us that, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
although flyWEA had been in touch, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
they weren't processing an application for the company | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
or any other operator working for them. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
As a result, it would have been illegal for him to take Amanda | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
and her family on this trip. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
What's more, the CAA added that for James Brown to provide the flight | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
and accommodation package he had promised, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
he would also need an ATOL licence, which flyWEA did not have. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
We also contacted Welshpool Airport, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
where the flight had supposedly been due to take off. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
It said they had never heard of flyWEA or James Brown. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
And they pointed out their runway is too short to accommodate | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
the type of plane that James Brown claimed would be flying. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Clearly, James Brown has a lot of explaining to do. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
But despite us contacting him, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:15 | |
he hasn't responded to any of our questions. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
And Amanda and her family are still out of pocket to the tune of £3,288. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:26 | |
Next time, I'll make sure. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
You know, probably go to a proper agent | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
and make sure it's actually confirmed before telling them | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
and making them too excited. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
But it will be a while for the next family holiday to happen again. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
the families who all had the same disastrous experience | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
with the caravan holidays they'd booked. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Not only did they end up with no holiday, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
it turns out there was no caravan either. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
I felt absolutely deflated. I felt sick to my stomach. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
I felt cheated, I felt angry. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
All...bag of emotions. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Last summer, we took the whole team out on the road, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
once again opening up our annual consumer advice clinic, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
this time in the West Midlands. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
You told us about all kinds of holiday-related problems, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
some of them rather nasty, like the Mediterranean cruise | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
that Annalise and Amanda came to tell Simon Calder about. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Sometimes, when you come out to have your breakfast | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
and you went to toilet, there was all sewage up there. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
As soon as we got back, we told them everything | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and they just sent a letter saying everything had been sorted now. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
You got nothing, that's it. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:45 | |
I've got the letters at home and they've never really apologised. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
So no compensation, nothing beyond saying, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
"Well, things are fixed now"? | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
Two weeks on that cruise, it had been a holiday from hell. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
The conditions on board the ship, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
if it's just unpleasant rather than dangerous... | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Well, that's awful, but there's no way I can see that you can sue | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
a company for having a smelly ship. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
But our pop-up shop isn't just about problems. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
It's about giving advice to stop them happening in the first place. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
And travel journalist Alison Rice had plenty of useful tips | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
at one of the workshops that we ran over the weekend, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
especially on how to avoid being left out of pocket | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
if you're using your credit card abroad. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
My top tip, of course, is if you're using credit or debit cards... | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
What they often do in the Eurozone is ask if you want to pay | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
in sterling or the local currency. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
And when you use a debit or credit card, if they give the option, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
always say you want to pay in the local currency, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
because actually, the card companies do their own conversion rates | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
and guess who is not the winner. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
And the other thing I think you should do | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
if you're thinking of using your credit card which... | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Never, ever, unless you're in a dire emergency, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
use your credit card for getting cash out of the hole in the wall. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
That is a very expensive thing. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Even if you pay your credit card bill every month, they bill you on | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
interest from the day you take the cash till the end of the month. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
All good advice. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
And here's another nugget you won't have heard before. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Teacher Maria Crawford despairs at the cost of going away | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
in the summer holidays. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
But Simon's got a money-saving suggestion | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
that just could work for you, too. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
The solution I would strongly suggest and I've tired this myself, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
is if you're going to have a holiday in August in Europe | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
and you want a beach and you want sunshine, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
then it has to be the Costa del Poland, the Polish Riviera. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
It's fantastic. You could fly to anywhere, from Szczecin in the west | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
all the way to Gdansk in the East and you're going to find | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
you've effectively got a 300 mile long beach. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
It's really friendly, it's very easy to find good places to stay | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
and fantastically good value. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-You'll be laughing, I promise. -Thank you. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
Until recently, Jane Ryan, Dagmar Gove and Becky Watts | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
didn't have much in common, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
besides their shared love of caravan holidays. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
But now, they've been brought together by one of the most | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
shocking stories we've come across. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
All three of them and many others, too, had their holidays ruined | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
for the very same reason and by the very same person. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Mum of four Becky wanted to take her entire family on holiday to Devon | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
but, in peak summer season, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
was finding it hard to find anything within her budget. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
There's not many deals out at that time of year, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
purely because obviously it's a prime time. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
But we pushed the boat out. It had been a tough year for the children | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
and we really wanted, you know, them to have a good surprise | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
and something to really look forward to. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
So when she spotted an ad on Facebook, offering a week | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
in a privately owned caravan that was both within budget | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
and in a site with beautiful coastal setting called Devon Cliffs, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
she couldn't believe her luck. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
I thought, "Wow." Right at the end of the six weeks holiday | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
and it was a cancellation offer. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
And we thought, "Right, we'll go for it." | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
The advertisement was on a Facebook Buy and Sell Site | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
which, as we've reported before, are a little like classified ads. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
A woman called Emma Fewings was listed as the caravan's owner, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
so Becky messaged her to find out more. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
I didn't obviously speak to her over the phone, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
it was just done through message, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
but really just a really friendly kind of person. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Delighted to have found an affordable holiday, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Becky paid the entire £600 cost by bank transfer straight | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
into Emma's account and waited for the kids' summer holidays to start. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
Meanwhile, in Newton Abbot, Dagmar Gove was also looking forward | 0:24:49 | 0:24:54 | |
to her holiday in another of Emma Fewings' caravans | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
at Perran Sands in Cornwall. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
I contacted her to say, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
"It's a nice idea, I would like to have the caravan." | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
And she said, "Yeah, but you have to pay straight away." | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
Dagmar had booked almost nine months earlier, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
paying £450 for a week's stay, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
right in the middle of the school summer holidays. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Like Becky, she had seen the caravan on a Facebook Buy and Sell site, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
which had boosted her confidence in the deal even more. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
There are several sites from people in our area | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
and it's very common you buy and sell everything, so I thought, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
"It can't be a con because this lady is just living around the corner." | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
But a month before Dagmar's holiday, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
other families who'd booked the same caravan at Perran Sands | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
were seeing their holiday plans unravel. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Jane Ryan paid £550 for a week in the caravan | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
with her husband and two daughters. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
But as the holiday approached, they still had not received | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
the caravan keys as they had been promised. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
It stated on the e-mail that the keys would be delivered | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
to my home address and I messaged her to say that | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
I'd not received any package at all. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
I then had a message back to tell me there'd been a problem. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
The people that were in the caravan a week prior to mine | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
had wrecked the caravan and they had taken the keys. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
She said, don't worry, she was 100% certain she could find us | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
another caravan for our holiday. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
Suspecting that something was amiss, | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
Jane called the company who own the caravan park | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
just to double check that Emma Fewings' story stacked up. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
I explained what had happened and I was then told this name | 0:26:36 | 0:26:41 | |
had been flagged to them the previous week | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and he was sorry to tell me that he didn't feel that | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
there was going to be a holiday. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
The rep couldn't give further details, but it turned out | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
that Emma Fewings had sold her caravan six months earlier. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
This was the very first time the penny dropped | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
that I knew then that I'd been scammed. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
So I composed myself and I rang her. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
She was very apologetic and said that she was, you know, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
more than sure that she would get me a holiday, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
again telling us to pack the car, again telling us to come down. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Emma Fewings said she'd check with friends on the same site | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
whether their caravans were available, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
but Jane's husband, Adrian, was having none of it. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
My husband said to her there was no way that he wanted to pack up | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
and come down, not knowing that there'd be a holiday for us. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
She then said did we want our money back | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
and my husband said it was probably the best thing to do. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
The following day, Jane's money was refunded in full. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
I said to her, "If there are other families that you've got waiting | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
"for this holiday, you need to contact them today. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
"Please don't let them go through what I've gone through | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
"these last couple of days." | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Jane wasn't to know others were about to have | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
the same thing happen to them. | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
Back in Newton Abbot, Dagmar, too, was concerned | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
when she didn't receive the keys either. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
It wasn't in the post and I was getting a little bit worried | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
and that was when it sort of dawned on me that something could be wrong. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
I said, "Not a problem, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
"I have the whole order confirmation with all the details." | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
So I phoned the mobile number, but nobody answered. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Unable to contact Emma Fewings, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
Dagmar posted a message on the Facebook Buy and Sell group, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
asking if anyone could shed any light on the situation. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
She was astounded to suddenly hear from lots of other | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
disgruntled holiday-makers who had also booked a stay | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
in an Emma Fewings' caravan, but never had it. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
In a weird way, I felt relieved that I'm not the only idiot, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
because I really felt like an idiot. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
And in the other way... | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
er, I thought, "Yeah, we have to do something if we are more than one." | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
One of the people who saw all the posts about Dagmar's message | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
was Becky Watts in Taunton. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
And she immediately began to panic about her own family's holiday. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
I felt absolutely deflated, I felt sick to my stomach. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:07 | |
I felt cheated, I felt angry, all...bag of emotions. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
When I booked the holiday, I was at ease the whole time. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
She was so reassuring, very prompt at getting back to you | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
if you had a question, very friendly. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:21 | |
Didn't, you know, in one million years think | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
that this wasn't going to be, you know, how it ended, whatsoever. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
Lovely, thank you. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:31 | |
Thank you. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:32 | |
'Jane, Dagmar and Becky met through a Facebook page | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
'that Jane set up for others who'd been let down in the same way. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
'So far, they believe at least 15 people have been affected.' | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
It's not just devastating knowing the fact that there's no holiday, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
but it's upsetting for all the families involved, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
for your children especially. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
We're all in the same boat and we're all extremely angry. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
They've all reported their cases to the police and to Action Fraud, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
who told us it had 150 reports linked to the same caravan owner. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
We've also discovered that although | 0:30:09 | 0:30:10 | |
Emma Fewings DID in the past own a caravan at Perran Sands, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:14 | |
she has NEVER owned one at Devon Cliffs, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
where Becky was due to take her family on holiday. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:20 | |
We contacted Emma Fewings for an explanation | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
but so far, she hasn't responded to any of our questions. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
We also contacted Facebook, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
who told us that while they couldn't comment on individual cases, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
pages where people buy or sell goods are | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
"helpful for local communities", | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
so they "wouldn't want to discourage this". | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
However, they stressed how important it is to be vigilant | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
when buying from someone who isn't an approved retailer, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
and pointed out that they | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
"work with the police to help people on Facebook stay safe". | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
And Becky, Dagmar and Jane all agree | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
they won't be booking their holiday through an ad this way again. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:04 | |
Next time, I would be a little bit more careful. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
I would try to meet this person, you know, in person. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I would look up a little bit more information. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Not just like I did before. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
I would certainly never book like that again. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
I would always go through a proper company. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
For many people, the best holidays are about getting away from it all | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
and that can also mean getting away from the bustle of a busy hotel | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
and instead choosing to stay somewhere that feels more like home. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
But booking a villa or an apartment | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
isn't always as straightforward as it might appear. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
Dozens of websites have sprung up hosting adverts | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
from thousands of individual owners. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
But while it might look and feel as if you're booking | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
through a travel agency - one that's vetted every property | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
and will protect you if something goes wrong - | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
that's not necessarily the case | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
and it may be too late when you discover that. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
Now Christmas is behind us and we're stuck in our homes | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
looking at weather like this... | 0:32:03 | 0:32:04 | |
it's the time of year when many of us start planning our next trip | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
to the sunshine. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
People like Jilly Roberts, a school teacher from Leeds. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Well, every year we try and go abroad, don't we? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
-Yeah. -We like to go... Where do we like to go? -Spain. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
We do like to go to Spain, don't we? | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
The family has previously booked their Spanish accommodation | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
through a website called Owners Direct | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
where homeowners from around the world advertise their properties | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
for holiday-makers to rent. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
And so far they've been delighted with the places they've stayed. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
Really nice apartments, very, you know, sort of high spec, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
air conditioned and right on the pool side, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
so that's sort of the standard that we've looked forward to. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
Expecting to match their previous experiences, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Jilly went back to the Owners Direct site | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
and quickly found what she thought was the perfect place in Andalucia. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:56 | |
It had everything she and the friends they'd be going with | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
could possibly want. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
It was just perfect. It was six bedrooms, | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
which we needed for the three families, air conditioning. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:07 | |
It was nicely appointed, it looked very modern on the photographs, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:12 | |
so it was just, it was ideal really. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
The villa was listed as belonging to a Mr Michael Fitzgerald. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
So Jilly got in touch with him via the website's messaging system. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
He e-mailed back and gave us all the details, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
said it was great for those dates. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:27 | |
He'd need a deposit, which is standard. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Michael Fitzgerald said that for 12 people for ten nights | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
the cost would be £4,000. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
And to secure the booking, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:37 | |
he asked Jilly to send him £1,750 via bank transfer. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
In previous years, that's how we've paid for apartments, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
through direct bank transfers to Spanish banks, so, you know, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
we had that sort of element of prior knowledge | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
that gave us a bit more security there. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
So we transferred the money across. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
Safe in the knowledge that their villa had been reserved, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
Jilly started planning the trip | 0:34:02 | 0:34:04 | |
and a few weeks later, she paid the outstanding balance of £2,250. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
But six weeks before they were due to depart, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
Jilly received a worrying e-mail from Owners Direct. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
The e-mail said we have reason to believe that | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
this villa is not legitimate, and my heart just sank, | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
it's what you're worried about. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
In the back of your mind, there's always that niggling sort of doubt, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
because it does happen, you hear about it happening. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Jilly immediately tried to get in touch with Michael Fitzgerald | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
on the number Owners Direct had given her. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
No reply at all. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:38 | |
In fact it was a Spanish message | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
saying this number has been discontinued, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
so there was a bit of a panic there. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
So Jilly turned to Owners Direct to see if they could help. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
I said, you know, "Is it possible it's a mistake?" | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
They said, "No, it's not a mistake | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
"but we can't tell you because of data protection." | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
So the initial thought was, "Right, we can't go on holiday | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
"and I've got to tell all my friends that this isn't happening." | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
So it was horrible, it was absolutely horrible. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I realised that we'd been scammed out of £4,000. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
Jilly had to break the bad news to her family and friends. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
I knew that when I told the children | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
that we potentially wouldn't go on holiday | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
that they would be absolutely heartbroken and there were tears, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
it was horrible. They were so upset. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
I felt terribly guilty, I felt it was my fault. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
With Michael Fitzgerald now off the radar, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
Jilly hoped Owners Direct might come to the rescue. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
But the company told her the maximum compensation it could offer | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
would be £700 which still left Jilly and her friends | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
£3,300 out of pocket. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
I was cross when they said £700 was the most we were going to get back | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
because as far as I was concerned, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
yes, they'd just advertised the villa | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
but, you know, you do have a responsibility. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
I think they need to be a lot more vigilant, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
they need to be able to see the deeds of the property, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
they need to have all that evidence on file | 0:36:04 | 0:36:06 | |
before they can actually advertise. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
When we contacted Owners Direct, the company reiterated that | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
Jilly had received the maximum available | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
from the free guarantee they provide | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
but pointed out that additional insurance IS available. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
They're sorry she experienced online fraud, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
saying that "one hard-earned holiday ruined is one too many" | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
and stressed they're doing all they can to tackle this | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
with "a Trust and Security team in place to identify | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
"and remove any fraudulent listings". | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
As a result, they say, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
"Less than 0.1%" of customers fall victim to frauds like this one. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:43 | |
"But as a further security measure, they've recently introduced a | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
"secure online payment system | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
"offering up to £10,000 protection to combat | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
"the activities of increasingly sophisticated cyber criminals". | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
But Jilly and her family are not the only ones | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
to have been taken in in this way. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Scams like this are global, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
affecting not just Brits going abroad, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
but people from other countries coming here. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
Sally Nordfelt and her nephew Ben live in Australia. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
Over the internet, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:15 | |
they told us how last year Sally had booked accommodation in London | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
on a website called FlipKey. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
It was advertised as a four-bedroom apartment | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
near the Natural History Museum and we thought this is amazing. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:30 | |
The owner asked for a £925 deposit - half the total cost. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:36 | |
He provided me with an e-mail with all of his banking details | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
so I did like a bank transfer to their account. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:45 | |
But after that, Sally heard nothing more from him. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
I was stressing and so while we were travelling to the UK, | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
I had my daughter trying to e-mail him all the time, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
two days before we were going to arrive in London | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
and I had called him about three times on his mobile | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
and I finally got an answer | 0:38:02 | 0:38:03 | |
and his response was that they had renovators in. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:09 | |
Claiming asbestos may have been found in the property, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
the owner cancelled the booking. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
Sally wasn't thrilled at having to find new accommodation | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
at the last minute, but she only started doubting the truth of what | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
she'd been told when she had problems | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
trying to get back her deposit. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
I got in touch with FlipKey as soon as he cancelled it | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
and I gave them a copy of his e-mail and they just said, | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
"Oh, we just suggest that you liaise with the owner and sort it out | 0:38:31 | 0:38:36 | |
"and get your refund from him." And that was it. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
And over a year later, Sally is still waiting for the property owner | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
to send any of her deposit back. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
FlipKey, part of TripAdvisor, | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
told us that while they're sorry to hear about Sally's experience, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
they always advise site users to pay | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
using the company's payment platform, | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
NOT directly to the owner. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
If she had, she'd have qualified for the site's | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
"Peace Of Mind Guarantee". | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
They added that after advising her to liaise with the owner | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
about a refund, they heard nothing more | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
and if they'd known he hadn't paid up, they'd have tried contacting him | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
and, if necessary, removed the property from their site. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
Tony Neate is an expert on online security. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
He says if you're hunting for a holiday home online, it's up to YOU, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
not the website you're using, to make sure you don't get scammed. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
It's your responsibility to make sure that property exists | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
and that you're paying the right person. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
So you can research the individual | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
and you can research the property that you're looking to rent. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
There are lots of websites that give reviews, | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
see the time span that those reviews are over | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
because what we find is that these criminal enterprises | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
pick a particular property, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
but they will only stick with them for six or seven months, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
because, of course, once people start going there, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
they start telling other people that they're fraudulent. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
But Jilly, who's lost over £3,000 AND her holiday, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
thinks the websites that unwittingly advertise fraudulent properties | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
should be doing more to help. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
I do think that they have a responsibility to ensure | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
that the people that booked through them are looked after. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
And they just need to maybe make sure that | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
they are more vigilant in policing their website. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
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You know, not all of the scams we've heard about today are ones | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
you could necessarily have spotted in advance, | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
but quite a few of them are avoidable | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
if you know exactly what to look out for. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
And quite often, it comes down to advice that actually | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
we've given out on this programme plenty of times before, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
not least to be wary of companies that say that you can only pay them | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
by bank transfer. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
With trusted traders, that can sometimes be OK. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
But in the cases you typically tell us about, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
not only have you ended up losing your cash, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
but you also don't have any of the recourse you'd have got | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
if you'd paid by credit card. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
So when it comes to a sizable purchase like a holiday | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
or a flight ticket, it's always safest to pay by card. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
That's especially true if you're dealing with a company | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
that you've never heard of before. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
I'm afraid that's where we have to leave you for today. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
But please do keep telling us about anyone at all that's left you | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
feeling ripped off, on any subject, not just on holidays. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
And it could be your experience that we'll be looking into | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
on a future programme. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
But in the meantime, thanks so much for joining us all here today | 0:42:03 | 0:42:05 | |
-and we hope to see you again soon. Until then, bye-bye. -Bye. -Bye. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 |