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What do you do if you're ripped off and don't know where to turn? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
I told him all the faults. He rejected them. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
A court of law backs you, but you still don't get your money? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Little did I know how long it would take to try and recover the money from him... Sorry. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:20 | |
It's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
We have every right to enter the premises by force if necessary. We will be entering that building. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:30 | |
Sheriffs are High Court enforcement officers who recover what a court judgment says is owed. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
The writ orders us to come here and seize goods to the value of this debt. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
They're the experts in getting cash that is rightfully yours. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
£1,323. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
But fighting for the underdog isn't a job for the faint-hearted. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:55 | |
I'll put it through your windscreen! | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
-Debtors aren't pleased to see them... -They're harassing me. -..because they hate paying up. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
-Are you happy for me to leave you some paperwork? -No. Go away! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
In today's programme, former office manager Shelley Summers was sacked by text. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:18 | |
She won a tribunal but never got the compensation. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
At one point, I had everything, then I was left with nothing. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Can the sheriffs put that right? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
Steve Knock had always dreamed of buying a boat, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
but when he finally got one, it became a nautical nightmare. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
He took the company which sold him the faulty vessel to court and got an out-of-court settlement, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:44 | |
but he still hasn't got his money. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
The sheriffs try to pay them a visit. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
Every asset on these premises is now seized. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
And this garage sold a car for a customer but didn't give him the cash they got for it. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:59 | |
The sheriffs go to the garage to get the customer what he's owed, but they get a frosty reception. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:06 | |
If you try to shut me in here by pulling the shutter down, that's an arrestable offence. I'm warning you. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:13 | |
Shelley Summers is an office manager who lives in Bournemouth. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
Shelley had a traumatic experience when employed at a building firm near Manchester. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Now she needs the help of the sheriffs. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I started working for MJ McCaul in 2005 | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
where I was basically an office manager. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
I helped run the business, mainly office work, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
went to the site now and again, paid the wages for the lads. Yeah, I did enjoy working there. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
But in July 2010, the firm moved to bigger offices, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and the atmosphere at work changed for the worse. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
One day, there was a row that was absolutely unbelievable. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
There was swearing. I thought that someone was going to get hurt. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
I really did think there was going to be some kind of fight or something. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
At the time, I was on the phone, speaking to a client. He was asking me what was going on. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:16 | |
I said, "I'm sorry, I'll ring you back." I didn't feel professional with running the business. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
Shelley mentioned to her boss she was uncomfortable with the shouting | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
and asked if she could work from home for the afternoon. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
He said, "If you leave the office, you don't come back." | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
I'd worked there for five years, and he'd never spoken like that before. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
I was always treated quite fairly. He's never said anything like that before. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:43 | |
So by this stage, I was very upset. I was extremely upset. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
And in the end, he just went out the office. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
Shelley was so distressed by what had happened, she went to see her doctor. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:56 | |
She was put on sick leave for a week and went home. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Soon after she got there, Shelley received a message from her boss. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
I got a text later on, saying that I had been suspended | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
and I shouldn't have left the office without his authority. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
He was going to come and take the company car away at 12 noon the next day. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
I was devastated, absolutely devastated. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
I couldn't believe that I'd worked there for so long and I was treated so bad, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
knowing I was at home with nobody. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
I had no other source of income, no car. I was left with nothing. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
A week later, the boss texted Shelley, telling her to call him straightaway. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:39 | |
I was about to give him a ring, then I get the text. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
"You are now sacked for gross misconduct. You had your chance and blew it." | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
The shock made Shelley ill. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
It's just the stress of basically having no money coming in, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
no car. At one point, I seemed to have everything, then the next, I was left with nothing. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:03 | |
Shelley decided to fight back. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I really felt, "This is wrong," | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
so I went to my local Citizens Advice Bureau who were shocked, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
they couldn't believe what had happened also. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
They were basically trying to help me, so they found me a legal aid representative. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
With their help, Shelley went to an employment tribunal which decided she had been unfairly dismissed. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:28 | |
I was awarded £11,650, approximately. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:34 | |
I've been paid nothing. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
It's now a year on, and Shelley's tried everything to get her money. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
She's at the end of her tether, but the law allows her to do one last thing - | 0:05:43 | 0:05:50 | |
apply for a High Court writ. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Shelley got one, and now a sheriff is going to enforce it. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
High Court enforcement officer Pete Spencer is on his way to where Shelley used to work, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
his aim - to track down her former boss Martin McCaul and get him to pay what he owes. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
Every place is different, really. You get very different reactions from various different people. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:18 | |
He'll obviously know of the tribunal case that's been set against him and he'll know he's lost that case. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:26 | |
He won't be aware of our visit today until we knock on the door. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:30 | |
The High Court enforcement officers, who are also known as sheriffs, | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
do a job that goes back to Saxon times. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
They don't need to forewarn people about their visit. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
The element of surprise can prove useful when tracking down debtors. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
Sheriffs are legally allowed to walk straight into commercial premises on behalf of people owed money. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:54 | |
Before he starts removing goods, Pete wants to find Shelley's former boss | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
and give him the opportunity to pay her what the tribunal awarded. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
-KNOCKS ON DOOR -Hello? | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
-Hiya. Good morning. Mr McCaul of McCaul Building Contractors? -That's it here. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:14 | |
Enforcement officer from the High Court. It's regarding an employment tribunal matter. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:20 | |
-Would it be yourself I need to speak to? -Let me see if anyone's around. -Cheers. Thank you. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
-Where were you from? -I'm an enforcement officer working on behalf of the High Court. -Right. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:33 | |
It doesn't take long for Mr McCaul to appear, but he isn't keen on being filmed. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
-No, no, no, I'm not having any filming. -That's all right. I'll step outside. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:44 | |
Pete starts his negotiations on behalf of Shelley. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Mr McCaul tells Pete his business is being wound up | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
and all the assets transferred to another company. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
However, Pete points out this transfer isn't listed with Companies House, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
and that's against the rules. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
Mr McCaul agrees to make an initial payment of £5,000 to Shelley with more to come. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:12 | |
It's not the whole amount, but without Pete, Shelley wouldn't be getting anything. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:18 | |
Unfortunately, most of the assets that were at the premises were no longer there | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
and they've been transferred to another company, but he was also a director of it. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
He did decide in the end to make an initial payment of £5,000, which he has done by bank transfer. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
Then he's emailing in, once he seeks legal advice, to pay the remainder over a monthly period, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:41 | |
to resolve it, but he's doing that personally, rather than through the company, as it has no assets. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
Shelley is pleased that she enlisted the help of the sheriffs. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
I've worked for big companies and I know what goes on. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
Things are always correct, the way they do things. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
So I don't feel that they should get away with it, even though they're a small company. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:05 | |
It's too easy. People say, "A small company might not be making the same money." That's not the point. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:11 | |
This needs to be sorted out for the future. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
It's happened to me, and if this help to stop it happening to someone else, that's why I've done this. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
David Carter is joint managing director of this High Court Enforcement Office in London. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
The recovery rates of the High Court enforcement officer are far greater than that of a County Court bailiff. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:37 | |
We're paid on results, we're not salaried and we have greater powers than the County Court bailiff | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
in terms of seizure and forcing entry to various types of premises. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
A High Court writ costs £60. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
If the sheriffs are successful in settling the debt, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
there is nothing more to pay, because the debtor foots the bill. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
£1,323. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
If the sheriffs don't get the cash owed to their client, there can be an admin fee to pay, also £60. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:09 | |
-Why are you here? -The money is still owed. -What are you here for? -To collect the money. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
Every month, this Enforcement Office helps over 1,000 people who are owed money, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
and another case has just been added to the list. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
High Court enforcement officers Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally are on their way to a garage in Middlesex. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:30 | |
The garage advertised a car for a member of the public for £27,995. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:38 | |
The car was sold, but the customer never got his money. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
After trying everything to get his cash, the car owner went to the High Court and got a writ | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
for the money he is owed. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Now the sheriffs are about to enforce it. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
They visited the garage before, but the boss went to court | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
to get a stay to delay them removing goods to cover the debt. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
We won't be taking our time with this one, because he managed to get the stay last time, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:09 | |
so we'll be going in demanding full payment. If he doesn't pay in full, we'll be removing the Ferraris. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:15 | |
It's not just cars that the sheriffs are after today. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
There are computers at the garage and two Ferrari diagnostic kits worth £40,000. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
As High Court enforcement officers, they're entitled to pick them up and walk straight out with them, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:30 | |
but the owner might not take too kindly to that. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:35 | |
Once we'd left and the stay was in place, he phoned me up and was quite threatening over the phone, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:41 | |
so we'll see just how threatening he is when we turn up. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
The sheriffs have yet to meet garage landlord Mr Birdi or his son Mr Verdi, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:52 | |
the owner of the business, face to face. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
They don't even know what they look like. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Is Mr Verdi here at all? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Is Mr Verdi here at all? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
I'm asking you, "Is he here at all?" | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
Is somebody able to get him on the phone at all? | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Is he upstairs? | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Is he in the office? | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
The paperwork the sheriffs left after their first visit made it clear | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
none of the assets could be removed by the owner while proceedings were in progress. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:33 | |
That's one of the first things they'll be checking today. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
How are you doing? | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
I think we can safely say that's not Mr Verdi. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
I'm a High Court enforcement officer. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
OK, I was here before. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
We've got a High Court writ to seize goods on the premises. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
-Right. -To cover a debt, basically. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
Mr Verdi managed to get a stay last time. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
That's now been overturned, so we're here today to complete the execution of the writ. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:08 | |
The guy who was trying to get him on the phone has walked off, so we'll start removing goods now. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
Those computers need to be backed up. If you've got any sensitive data on them, you need to delete it, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
because we'll unplug those and remove those within the next five or ten minutes. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:25 | |
While the receptionist backs up the computers, | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Lawrence goes on the hunt for the two valuable Ferrari diagnostic kits he spotted last time. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:34 | |
When it comes to commercial properties, High Court enforcement officers have access all areas. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:41 | |
They can break through doors if necessary. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
Lawrence has found one of the kits, but has the garage boss sold it to prevent it being removed? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:55 | |
-That's the one we want. -It doesn't belong to us. -Who does it belong to? | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
-Another company. -What other company is that? -Read it. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
What I have noticed going round is a lot of stuff has now got stickers with "asset tag" on, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:10 | |
so it looks like he might have attempted to defeat distress | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
by basically borrowing money against those assets. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
It could be just a nominal amount, so that some other company can try and claim title to them. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:23 | |
It doesn't affect us, because they were already seized. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
Anything that was seized previously, which was the entire contents of the workshop, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
can't then be passed on to an asset finance company. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Go and get that diagnostic stuff off there, mate. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I don't care what asset tag they've put on it. It wasn't on there last time. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
We've seized it last time, so we'll take it. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
We'll try and find the other one. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
While Kev confiscates the £20,000 diagnostic kit, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
Lawrence checks outside for any cars that can be removed. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
There doesn't seem to be any of the cars here that were here last time. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
That's not unexpected, because they were, we believe, customers' cars being worked on. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
It's not surprising. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
Lawrence spots something suspicious going on in the garage. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
I have to tell you, mate, if you try and shut me in here by pulling the shutter down, | 0:15:17 | 0:15:23 | |
that's an arrestable offence. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
The shutter's come down over there. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
The shutter move may be a warning shot. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Lawrence and Kev need to act fast. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
The sheriffs have been told the garage owner is on his way. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Is he coming to settle his debt to the disgruntled customer or to try and stop them removing his property? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:55 | |
High Court enforcement officers can't take tools of the trade, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
equipment necessary for the running of the business, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
but this rule only applies if the equipment is only used by the owner. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
These computers are also used by his colleagues. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
I'll dig out the power lead for the... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
-for the other tower unit. -What's this? | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
That's ready to go. The printer's ready to go. There's a power lead there for the printer. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
The new arrival seems to know the place. It could be the elusive owner. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
No-one seems to be keen to tell us who they are or who they represent, | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
so we'll let them crack on until someone claims to be him. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
We'll see. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
Lawrence and Kev can't take any risks. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
If it is the owner, he may try to lock them out. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
We're leaving one of us on the premises at all times. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
We can effect re-entry, but if they were to pull the shutters down and lock them, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
it's added time and aggravation, and we don't need it. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
-Are you just taking what you think is to that value? -We have to have a fair estimate, yeah. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:08 | |
But this should have been dealt with when we were here last time. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
You know? We've got to take decisive action. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Lawrence can't prove any of the vehicles on site belong to the garage owner, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:20 | |
so he's going to remove the posts which hoist the cars into the air for maintenance work. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
Can you get a wheel on that Ferrari there, so it can be pushed off when the specialists take the lift away? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:31 | |
Next, the CCTV system is stripped out. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
Grab that monitor, mate. I've got the control unit. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
-Have you got the light bit? -I've got the bit I can carry in one hand with my briefcase in the other. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:45 | |
The removal of the kit has clearly upped the ante. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Another man who refuses to identify himself wants to make a deal to stop the removal, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
but it may just be a stalling manoeuvre while the owner tries to get another stay from the court. | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
If you get me 17 grand in the next half hour, I'll put the trucks on hold for half an hour. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
-A bit more than half an hour. -The maximum is an hour, purely because of what happened last time. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
Is it a genuine offer or a delaying tactic? Lawrence will find out soon. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:17 | |
It's Pete's last job of the day in Bingley, Yorkshire. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
All he knows about the case is it's about a man who owes over £13,000. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
No idea what it's about. There's no case notes to give me any background information. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
So we'll give it a knock and see if the defendant's there. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
DOORBELL RINGS | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-Hi. Is there a Mr... -BLEEP -? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
-No. -No? Do you know of that name or...? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Can I ask what's going on? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Yeah, I'm an enforcement officer enforcing a High Court writ at this address. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
-You don't know who that is? -They've got my address? -It's gone through court at this address. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
Sometimes High Court enforcement officers chase the wrong lead, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
and it costs them valuable time and money, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
but of the 70,000-plus writs they deal with every year, they collect over 65 pence for every pound owed. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:23 | |
Obviously, it's not you. And you've no idea who this person is at all? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
-No, I've no idea at all. -OK. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
Because the address on this writ is incorrect, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
an innocent member of the public has become unwittingly involved. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
-It's quite concerning that somebody has used your address. -Yes. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
We'll do a re-trace on the defendant name and hopefully get a trace address somewhere else maybe. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:48 | |
-If anything comes to light, the office number and my number is on there to contact us. -I will. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:55 | |
Pete gives the house owner some important advice. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
You might just want to report it to the police that somebody might have used your address fraudulently, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
so they're aware of it, just in case you get any other items cropping up that you're not aware of. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
-OK. -I'll do that. -Thank you. -Thank you very much. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Sorry that I can't be of more help. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Pete will check the name on the writ against a national database and the electoral roll. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
Hopefully, that will help him track down his man. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Back at the garage in Hayes, Lawrence and Kev are still waiting for the money they were promised. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:39 | |
The £17,000 isn't the full amount owed to the owner of the car the garage sold, but it is a start. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:46 | |
A man who won't reveal his identity approaches Lawrence. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-Have you got the writ there? -I have. -Can I see that, please? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
No, sir, you can't, because you're not my defendant. You're not Mr Verdi. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:59 | |
If you show me some ID showing me you're Mr Verdi... You keep saying you are and then you're not. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:05 | |
If you show me some ID showing me you're Mr Verdi, then I'll show you my writ. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
And what does the writ let you do? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
Come here and seize goods to the value of the debt. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
Just when it looks like Lawrence is getting nowhere, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
he is approached by the man who offered £17,000 to stop the removal of goods. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
He's going to get his aunt to come down and pay on a credit card. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
So, um, we shall see. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
-How far away is your aunt? -About 20 minutes. -That means nothing to me, I'm afraid. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
The police will throw you out. The police are coming here to throw these guys out. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:48 | |
Confusion reigns. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
Is the aunt coming or the police? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Soon the question is answered. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
-Hi. Who called us? -No idea. I'll show you some ID. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
-Enforcement officers. -Cool. -Here to enforce a High Court writ. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
-On this premise here? -Yeah. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
We seized goods about three months ago, and they got an emergency stay. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
The judge threw it out when he actually got a hearing. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
There was no grounds for dispute whatsoever. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Now the police have arrived, the elusive landlord Mr Birdi suddenly appears out of nowhere. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:30 | |
Hello, mate. All right? Sorry, who are you? | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
-I own the property. -All right. We'll come and have a chat in a sec. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
-Is that Mr Birdi? -I believe it might be. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
I believe that might have just been our defendant. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
That's the first time he's acknowledged who he is. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
So that's the elusive Mr Birdi. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
He was actually the first person Lawrence saw when he arrived. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:58 | |
Mr Birdi wants a private chat with the policemen upstairs. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
20 minutes later, the police officer reappears. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
-He reports back on Mr Birdi's side of the story. -He says this company went into liquidation two days ago. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:23 | |
No, what they've done is write to a liquidator. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Yeah. It's still got the name on there. They're saying it's trading in a different name. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:33 | |
You've got the correct paperwork to say you can take the goods. And that is basically it. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
-Have we got the name of the chap we're after? -Verdi Ferrari Aftersales Ltd. He's a director, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
but we're not after his personal assets. It's assets of the company, which is here. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
-And whether it's in liquidation or not... -It's not in liquidation. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
If it was actually properly in liquidation, we couldn't take the assets. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
They become in the custody of the liquidator. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
-They've failed to give me anything. -The lady on the phone said, "They wrote to us two days ago | 0:24:03 | 0:24:09 | |
"and asked us to act for them. We've had no paperwork." | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
-We're going to take the stuff we've got now. -Yeah. -I've got to give him this paperwork. He's got to sign. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:20 | |
Right. I'll ask him down, then. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Lawrence isn't surprised by the delaying tactics. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
A lot of the time, it's a war of attrition. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Which we usually win. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
-Mr Birdi doesn't want to come and talk in front of the cameras. Would you come upstairs? -Sure. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:42 | |
-We'll give him a receipt. -Not a receipt, but effectively. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
-No problem. -Without the cameras. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
The sheriffs seem to be making progress. Soon after Lawrence gets upstairs, Mr Birdi's wife appears | 0:24:49 | 0:24:56 | |
and pays £5,000 by credit card. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
I'll do you a receipt in a sec. Just got to do the balance. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
And the Birdis offer to organise scheduled repayments to cover the outstanding debt. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:10 | |
Lawrence is satisfied with this arrangement and returns the removed goods. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:16 | |
Thanks to the sheriffs, the owner of the car the garage sold | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
will now get a good chunk of the money he's owed, with more to come. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
They're offering £5,000 a month to clear it off. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Providing they stick to that, that's quite reasonable. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
As it transpires, there aren't the assets there. The cars do belong to customers, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
so there's no real leverage there to get any more money. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
So we've handed the goods back. They can't function without them. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
While, generally speaking, if our actions cause a business to close, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:51 | |
but we've cleared the debt, then that's not an issue. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
A limited company, there's no protection. All their assets are liable to be seized and sold. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
But if we're not going to clear a debt, only a fraction of it, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
there's little point in removing the assets and preventing them trading. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:11 | |
So they can carry on trading and meet the payment arrangement | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
if it's accepted by the client. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
But if it isn't accepted, or the owners don't meet the repayments, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
the sheriffs will be back. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
Steve Knock's another unlucky member of the public who needs the help of the High Court Enforcement Office. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
Steve was an aircraft engineer until an accident ended his career. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
In 2004, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
I had an accident, and, unfortunately, it left me with what they call nerve root impingement, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:53 | |
which is basically down my left arm and in my left hand, I can't feel properly. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
I haven't any real sensation. Also my right leg. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
As a result of his injuries, Steve lost his job. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
-He started to rethink his approach to life. -That was when really we appreciated your health, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
and life is a lot more important. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
One of the things we had always dreamed of, because we live close to the River Thames, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:20 | |
was to have a boat and use that to trundle up and down the Thames when it was nice. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:27 | |
Steve and his wife bought this luxury cruiser from Regency Marine Ltd, trading as Gibbs Marine, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:34 | |
in Shepperton. The price - £62,000. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
It had always been a lifetime ambition. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
The dream, if you know what I mean. Dreaming about having a boat | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
and, initially, seeing people go past, especially in the summer, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
going down the Thames on the boat, pulling up at a little pub and having a pub lunch, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:59 | |
that seems such a nice thing to be able to do. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
I'd always dreamed about having a boat but could never justify | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
the expense of having one. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
When I had the accident, you know, justifying buying a boat realistically went out the window, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:19 | |
because you realise that money isn't the be all and end all, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
and it's about enjoying your life, enjoying what you've got. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
But Steve's dream became a nautical nightmare. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
The boat looked great, but he says it turned out to be a disaster. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:37 | |
Looks can be deceiving. Certainly with my experience of this boat, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:44 | |
-it was the biggest pile of junk going. -Steve had problems from day one. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
There was probably about 20 or 30 defects on the boat. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:57 | |
One of the faults was particularly concerning. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
Steve was worried about the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
The exhaust fumes were getting into the cabin area and sleeping area. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:10 | |
So much so that it was setting off the carbon monoxide alarms. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
To add insult to potential injury, as soon as it rained, it became apparent that the front cabin | 0:29:18 | 0:29:24 | |
-had a leaky roof. -It just leaked like a sieve! | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
After about 5 minutes of it raining, you might as well be stood outside. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:33 | |
Steve asked for a meeting with the owner of Regency Marine to insist he fix the problems | 0:29:33 | 0:29:39 | |
or give him his money back. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:42 | |
The meeting basically broke down. He still had no intentions of repairing, and so on and so forth, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
so as I left his office, which is upstairs, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
as I walked down the office steps and out of the actual showroom, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:57 | |
he shouted down to me, "OK, Steve, let's have fun in court, then!" | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Steve didn't have fun. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
His legal costs were £35,000, but he did get an out of court settlement with Regency Marine. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:11 | |
However, Regency Marine failed to pay Steve what he was owed. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
In fact, a year on, they still haven't paid a penny. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
Steve had little option. He transferred the claim to the High Court and got a writ against them. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:27 | |
And now sheriffs Kev and Lawrence are on their way to enforce it at the showroom in Shepperton. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:37 | |
They've got a debt, as it stands at the moment, of just over £57,000. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
Boats sell for lots of money, so they should have sufficient assets. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
Hopefully, they'll realise that and pay, or if not and we do have to remove, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:53 | |
there will be sufficient stuff there to cover the debt. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
The first job will be to check if Regency Marine is still trading | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
and if these boats belong to the company and can be removed. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
-Hello. -Hello. -Regency Marine Ltd, trading as Gibbs Marine Sales? | 0:31:06 | 0:31:11 | |
I'll show you my ID, sir. I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
I'm here to enforce a High Court writ against Regency Marine Ltd | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
on behalf of Stephen Knock and Andrea Knock. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
I'm here today to collect £57,078.06. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
Right. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
That needs to be paid, sir, or we'll seize goods to cover it. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:34 | |
Lawrence needs to find out if he's talking to the Regency Marine man named in the writ. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
-Mr Shields? Is that you? -No. I'm Mr Pearcey. A different company. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
Oh, all right. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
Mr Pearcey tells Lawrence that the debtor company, Regency Marine, trading as Gibbs Marine, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:53 | |
is no longer in business. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
And none of these boats belong to it. Instead, he says they belong to Gibbs Boat Sales. | 0:31:55 | 0:32:02 | |
Any idea why then, sir, this has got Gibbs Marine Sales on it? If it's Gibbs Boat Sales? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:08 | |
-It's all Gibbs, but these are Gibbs Boat Sales. -I definitely need to see proof. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:14 | |
Everything here says Gibbs Marine Sales, so I will be seizing them. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
Lawrence could remove and auction this boat to help settle the Steve Knock case. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:27 | |
It's down to Mr Pearcey to prove his company owns it, not Regency Marine. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
While they wait for his accountant to fax the ownership documents, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Mr Pearcey takes Lawrence to see the boat at the centre of the dispute. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:42 | |
-This is Mr Knock's boat, which has sat here... -If it's Mr Knock's boat, we can't touch it. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
-We can only remove... -Have that one. -We can only remove the defendant's goods to pay the debt. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:57 | |
If there's a dispute over this and it's Mr Knock's boat and he's been awarded money on top, | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
then if this is Mr Knock's boat, we can't remove it | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
to clear Regency Marine's debt. It's not their boat. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
-What the SP is is that we're selling this on behalf of Mr Knock. -Yeah. -To clear the debt. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
But it seems like he doesn't want to wait for the money. We've had the boat up for sale for 5-6 months. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:23 | |
It hasn't sold, because boats aren't selling fantastically. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
-So you're selling HIS boat to clear Regency Marine's debt? -No. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
-To clear a debt to Mr Knock. The proceeds will go to Mr Knock. -But that's Mr Knock's boat. -Yeah. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:37 | |
In other words, we're selling it so we can pay Mr Knock £50,000 or whatever it is. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:43 | |
-What do you owe him the £50,000 for? For not selling his boat? -Yeah. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
In the out of court settlement, Regency Marine did agree to sell the boat so he got his money back. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:56 | |
Lawrence goes back inside to make completely sure Regency Marine isn't selling boats | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
-under its previous trading name, Gibbs Marine. -PHONE RINGS | 0:34:01 | 0:34:08 | |
Gibbs Marine. Good morning. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Gibbs Marine. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
I'm afraid he's not here at the moment... | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
I don't know off the top of my head. Can I take your number? | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
-Answering the phone "Gibbs Marine". -Some paperwork's been faxed to Mr Pearcey. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:34 | |
Does it prove the boats don't belong to the company that sold Steve Knock his boat and can't be seized today? | 0:34:34 | 0:34:41 | |
I just find it very strange that you answered the phone, "Gibbs Marine". | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
-Yeah, we always do. -But you're not Gibbs Marine. -Gibbs Marine's been here since 1987. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:51 | |
-Yeah. -So just to keep it all running... | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
Let me have a look at this paperwork. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
The paperwork doesn't include bank account transactions confirming the boats were sold to Mr Pearcey. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:04 | |
Lawrence isn't convinced. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
There appears to be some doubt over the ownership of most of the vessels here, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
so I'm going to list down every boat in here and you'll have five days... | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
If your company's claiming to be the owner, you'll have five days to submit paperwork. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
If, for example, the boat outside has a lien on it from a bank, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
the bank will have five days. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
You can see where I'm coming from? Every asset of the defendant company on these premises is now seized | 0:35:30 | 0:35:37 | |
and no longer belongs to the debtor company. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
I do have to tell you, because this is commercial premises, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
if we deem it necessary, we can effect an entry using locksmiths or any other means. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:51 | |
Now it's down to Mr Pearcey to prove the boats belong to his company and not Regency Marine. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:57 | |
They have five days now to do a third-party claim to those goods | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
and submit proof to us that they actually own those boats. It's a bit of a legal exercise, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
but it wasn't clear who owned what, so I've just done a paper seizure. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:12 | |
To clear up the ownership issue, Mr Knock went to court, and it held | 0:36:13 | 0:36:18 | |
Gibbs Boat Sales were a separate company, legitimately trading. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
So Lawrence couldn't take any of their boats. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
It looks like Steve Knock won't be getting his money back from Regency Marine. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:35 | |
It's disappointing for Steve, but he takes time to reflect on the few happy moments he had on the boat | 0:36:37 | 0:36:44 | |
before it all went badly wrong. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
It was something we had always really dreamed about, especially me, if I'm honest with you. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:53 | |
So when we got that, it was unbelievable. It was such...such...good fun. | 0:36:53 | 0:37:00 | |
Just being around the water, being around the wildlife as well. Everything about it | 0:37:00 | 0:37:06 | |
was just absolutely fantastic. It really was. I'd genuinely recommend it to anyone, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:13 | |
just be wary of where you buy your boat from! | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Kev and Lawrence have one more job to do today at a property investment company in Wandsworth, London. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:27 | |
They're acting for someone selling a house with the company, but there was a dispute, | 0:37:27 | 0:37:33 | |
-leaving the vendor out of pocket. -We're here to collect £5,500. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:38 | |
We've just pulled up now. It looks like offices, so we don't know what assets they'll have. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:45 | |
But hopefully they'll be able to discharge the debt. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
Because the sheriffs don't forewarn debtors they're coming, things can get heated when they turn up. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:56 | |
You'll always get the odd nutter. You've got to go in prepared, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
but, generally speaking, most situations aren't too bad. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
And if you really need to, you can call the police, and they will come and assist you. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:12 | |
Hello, there. I'm looking for Quantum Investment Properties Ltd. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:17 | |
-I'll just give them a call. Can I take your name? -Mr Grix. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
-Hiya. -Hello, there. I'll show you some ID. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
-Enforcement officer. Are you happy to speak here? -No, go through. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:30 | |
-What is it? -We're here today to execute a High Court writ | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
-on behalf of a Mr Steven Savage and Mrs Susan Hibbert. -Yeah? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
The amount outstanding at the moment is £5,521.61. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:49 | |
-OK. -Which is what we're here to collect today. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
-So...? -How would you like to pay? -Erm, debit card if we could. -Yep. | 0:38:54 | 0:39:00 | |
-OK? -Yeah. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
We've got a chip and PIN machine. My colleague will go and get it. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
-I'll go upstairs. Two seconds. -OK. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
Result! That was quick, even by Lawrence's standards. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Sometimes that throws them. If you just come out with it, "How would you like to pay?" | 0:39:12 | 0:39:18 | |
and don't give them the choice, it sometimes works, as in this case. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
He hasn't come down yet, so... we can't count our chickens, but a good way to finish the day. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:31 | |
It's a debit card, yeah? There's a £5 surcharge for a debit card payment. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:40 | |
For the company director, settling with the enforcement officers was cheaper than a long legal battle. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:47 | |
I knew it had to be paid, but the whole thing's frustrating. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
If we had got lawyers involved, it could have been a different case. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
If only they could all be like that! | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
You know? "We're here to collect this amount. How would you like to pay?" | 0:39:59 | 0:40:04 | |
"Debit card all right?" "Thank you." If only! | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
It's nothing against these guys. They've got to collect the money. You win some, you lose some. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:15 | |
Back off to the office now. Job done for the day. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
A welcome early finish for the sheriffs. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:25 | |
It's now two months since Lawrence and Kev paid Regency Marine a visit. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
The company is now in administration. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
Steve Knock has taken his boat back to sell and try to recoup some of his losses. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:45 | |
Shelley Summers is being paid £175 per month by her previous employer, Mr McCaul. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:54 | |
The debt will be paid off in just over four years. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
Shelley says she wants to put this episode of her life behind her | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
and looks forward to a brighter future. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
And the customer whose car was sold by Verdi Ferrari | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
was pleased to get some of the money he was owed, but the story doesn't end there. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:15 | |
The owner of the garage promised monthly £500 repayments to pay off the rest of the debt, | 0:41:15 | 0:41:21 | |
but he's missed the first deadline, and there's no sign of that money. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:27 | |
If they don't make the first payment, it appears obvious that they're intending not to pay, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:33 | |
so we go back to remove goods. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
The sheriffs will be revisiting the garage within days | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
and this time, they'll remove property for good. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
Karen Steadman's employers were supposed to deduct money from her wages to pay for her rent. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:59 | |
The money was deducted, but they didn't pass it on to her landlord, | 0:41:59 | 0:42:03 | |
so Karen and her family were threatened with eviction. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
It's very stressful, and I wouldn't want any person to go through it. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
The sheriffs pay her employers a visit. Will they get Karen's cash? | 0:42:12 | 0:42:18 | |
-What do I need to do now? -Pay it. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
The sheriffs go to the home of a businessman who failed to pay an employee her wages. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:27 | |
-They're told he's moved out, but is it the truth? -If he's lying, why give us a forwarding address? | 0:42:27 | 0:42:33 | |
Cos the chances are you're going to get rumbled. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
And Lawrence and Kev return to the garage in Hayes. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:42 | |
This time they do take property to settle the debt to the customer who the garage didn't pay. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:48 | |
However, a £20,000 piece of equipment is missing. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
It was here this morning. The power lead is still plugged in. It could be in the boot of a car. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:59 | |
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