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NatWest - Are you safe from fraud? Fiat - Are you secure at the wheel? | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
Tesco - Can you be sure about their latest offers? Plus: Barclays, | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
Virgin Media, and British Gas - Selling boilers. What's really in | :00:16. | :00:21. | |
it for their engineers? It's Watchdog. The programme you cannot | :00:21. | :00:31. | |
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afford to miss. Yes, hello and good evening. Welcome to watchdog, we | :00:49. | :00:57. | |
are live, as usual, from Television Centre. Bank fraud, a customer's | :00:57. | :01:03. | |
account drained of �18,000. Why would not NatWest pay it back? | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
gentleman was away on holiday, he could not have done the trangs | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
actions, therefore the bank has to pay back the money. Can Britain's | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
Srongest Man get hold of the wheel? Tesco, price on the brochure �169. | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
Price at the checkout, �1.99. How many other deals don't add up. Plus | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
car insurance and other charges, �55 to change your address. We did | :01:30. | :01:37. | |
not get a good deal from the Rogue's tonight, but we got a shot | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
of them after they ripped us off. There is no hanging their heads in | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
shame. There is is a smirk. Look, a high-five. Yes, prepare to meet the | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
boys from Drainsafe Limited of Bexley in Kent. They look happy. | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
That expression could be about to change. | :01:53. | :01:58. | |
First, bank and credit card fraud. Every day, 2,500 customers find | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
that details have been used to buy goods or withdraw money. Proving | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
fraud is difficult. That is why the Financial Services Authority, the | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
FSA, have drawn up new rules to make it easier for the customers to | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
claim refunds so., are the banks following the rules? You decide. | :02:18. | :02:22. | |
Thieves drain our bank accounts of more than �300 million a year. | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
There are many ways to do it using lost or stolen cards or card | :02:27. | :02:32. | |
details to order items over the counter, on the phone or over the | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
internet. Or even by stealing your identity to take over the entire | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
account. Criminals may find it easy to | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
defraud you, but persuading the bank they have done so can be | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
tougher. The FSA rules say that if you deny authorising a payment, the | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
bank should give the benefit of the doubt to you, unless they can prove | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
otherwise, but we found some banks using flimsy excuses to refuse | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
refunds. Kulvir Kinder, recently went on | :03:05. | :03:13. | |
holiday to India. While he was away, a fraudster claiming to be him, | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
called NatWest and managed to alter personal details, changing the | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
residence from Slough to Nottingham and persuading the bank to send a | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
new card. When it arrived at the new address, the fraudster | :03:25. | :03:30. | |
proceeded to empty the account of more than �18,000. Almost �5,000 of | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
the total was stolen by transferring it into other accounts, | :03:34. | :03:42. | |
money that NatWest has refunded. The other �13,000 came from ATMs | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
and cash withdrawal, that is �13,000 that the bank is refusing | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
to refund. Despite Kulvir Kinder being 4,000 miles away at the time. | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
NatWest say that the withdrawals could not have been made without | :03:56. | :04:01. | |
him being present, but is this proof for them to deny the refund? | :04:01. | :04:09. | |
I have reviewed the case and I draw attention to two transactions worth | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
�50. Cash withdrawals, done over the count ner branches -- �9506789 | :04:15. | :04:19. | |
Kulvir Kinder was away on holiday. He could not have done the | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
transactions, therefore the bank must refund the money. | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
Fraudulent use of the bank card is often obvious. The thief has spent | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
money in a place you have never been to on goods you have never | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
bought, but if the card was used for a transaction with a retailer | :04:36. | :04:42. | |
you have used before, good luck getting a refund from Barclays. | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
Muqtada Al-Sadr returned from a holiday to find two unauthorised | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
payments had been made on his card. I contacted Barclays Bank. They | :04:50. | :04:58. | |
came back to me. I was astounded to find that its with for a card I | :04:58. | :05:07. | |
don't even own. They were two cars. The two cars, these ones are Ray's, | :05:07. | :05:13. | |
the others are not. I went to the bank, they decided it | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
was not fraud due the fact I had used the merchant before. | :05:18. | :05:22. | |
Yes, if the criminal ues the card to buy something from a retailer | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
which you have used before, Barclays may not be prepared to | :05:26. | :05:31. | |
accept that there has been fraud. Why? Because the retailer has your | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
details and then accidentally debited the account or that this is | :05:36. | :05:42. | |
in line with theal pattern of spending, but if you are a motorist, | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
you need a tax disc, there is own the DVLA available. | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
The regulation says that the firm has to prove that the payment was | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
authorised. To argue that, simply because the customer made purchases | :05:54. | :05:59. | |
from the company in the past is a unreasonable argument. All of us | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
that have cars or driving licences deal with the DVLA. | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
Despite being able to prove that the cars were not his, Ray could | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
not get a refund from Barclays. Having taken two months to provide | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
him with details of the transactions, they gave him ten | :06:16. | :06:20. | |
days to dispute them. As he was out of the country at the time he | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
missed the deadline. I feel that Barclays have treated | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
me shabbily. They don't seem to care. | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
If thieves want to make a fraudulent telephone or online | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
purchase, all they need are the card details, using sophisticated | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
techniques to obtain them, going so far as to hack into retailers' | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
databases. You can be unaware that a criminal has your details but you | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
could be held responsible. Dharmadev Trivedi is a junior | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
doctor and another Barclays customer. Last October, the bank | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
noticed a number of unusual transactions on the card. One of | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
which was made at a hotel in Northampton. | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
At the time, he was on shift 120 miles away in Leeds. | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
The bank had cancelled my card. They are stopped some of the major | :07:14. | :07:18. | |
transactions and I was feeling much assured that the money was safe. | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
However, there was a purchase made from a hotel and some food | :07:23. | :07:29. | |
purchased from a food website, they redebited that from the account. | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
Although Barclays refunded the hotel bill, they refused to refund | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
the money for the food order, using the exact excuse that they had | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
given Ray, that he had used the retailer before. | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
The reason was the previous dealing with the merchant. I had ordered | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
from them before, but many others have as well. | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
Ray did manage to persuade Barclays to refund the money, despite the | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
fact they could not prove he made the transactions, they still felt | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
he was to blame. I read the letter that Barclays | :08:07. | :08:17. | |
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I feel it was a ridiculous statement to make. | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
This gentleman has protected his card. Somebody has managed to use | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
his card number that is a very different matter. As card holders, | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
we are clearly responsible for making sure that we keep our fiscal | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
cards safe, but lots of people have access to our card details and we | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
cannot prevent some of those people from miss using those details. | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
The FSA says that banks have to give customers the benefit of the | :08:52. | :08:57. | |
doubt if they claim to be victims of fraud unless proven otherwise. A | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
shame that some banks don't seem to be listening. | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
The NatWest has investigated Kulvir Kinder's case and agreed to refund | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
the remaining �13,000 drained from his account. They say that the | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
investigation was complex and took time. They want to assure him and | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
all other customers that they continue to develop their antifraud | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
methods. And Barclays have refunded | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
Dharmadev Trivedi but admit that they wrongly held him lible for one | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
of the payments. They are also helping Muqtada Al-Sadr, they have | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
offered him an extra �50 as a goodwill gesture. Saying that the | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
security of the customers' money is prar mount. They guarantee to | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
compensate genuine fraud victims and pay out an 85% of cases. When | :09:48. | :09:53. | |
they get it wrong they put their hands up and take action to put it | :09:53. | :10:01. | |
right. If you would like to comment on the stories here is how: | :10:01. | :10:08. | |
To get involved in the Twitter discussion, the address and hashtag | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
are on the screens. A huge response to last week's | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
reports on British Gas and their engineers charges for unnecessary | :10:16. | :10:24. | |
work. Chris Jansen came on watchdog to deny that the engineers receive | :10:24. | :10:27. | |
financial incentives to recommend that customers replace the boiler. | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
No. They do not get rewards for selling a boiler. | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
So they are not in any way benefiting from the boiler? Your | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
people that go in there, there is nothing in it for them what soever? | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
Our engineers are engineers. They fix boilers. We visit 7 million | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
home as year. 99% of the times we fix the boiler. Most of the time we | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
fix it the first time. In the rare occasion, it is one in 100 when we | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
cannot fix the boiler. The engineer sits with the customers to explain | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
to them the reasons they should get a new boiler. | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
That is odd. British Gas engineers have been in touch to say that they | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
are given incentives. Watchdog obtained a letter sent to British | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
Gas employers, spelling out how engineers can increase earnings. | :11:20. | :11:27. | |
The company sent this to staff. It gave them guidance on how to answer | :11:27. | :11:34. | |
customers' questions. In answer to the question, our engineers are | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
incentivised to encourage customers to have their boilers replaced? It | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
says no, but where a customer's boiler cannot be fixed or is | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
reaching the end of its life, our engineers may ask if the customers | :11:48. | :11:56. | |
would like a quote for a new boiler from a British Gas expert. If so, | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
the engineer requires �15 for giving the lead. | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
So there is an incentive? British Gas say this is a nominal payment. | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
For introducing them to the British Gas new heating team. They say that | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
the payments are made irrespective of the outcome of a sales process. | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
It is, they say, not a commission. The full response and contact | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
details are on our website. Coming up: The Grande Punto, | :12:24. | :12:28. | |
stylish and safe say Fiat. Try steering it say the owners. How | :12:28. | :12:34. | |
will Britain's Srongest Man fare behind the wheel? He won?! He must | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
have beaten me by that much! Mind you, if there was a competition for | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
Britain's cheekest man, neither would get a look in. We would be a | :12:43. | :12:53. | |
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long way behind one of tonight's # You've got a friend in me... # | :13:03. | :13:13. | |
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Dan and I go way back! We laugh bad that for days... Hello! Hello! We | :13:15. | :13:25. | |
have stayed pals, mates, bosom buddies... It is one of of the -- | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
written of the moments that I wish that Dan was here. We tell the same | :13:29. | :13:36. | |
stories all over again. I sent a text message that said | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
Hello! I don't even know what it means! | :13:39. | :13:48. | |
# Yeah, you have a friend in me. # Come on! You know, other friends | :13:48. | :13:54. | |
are not so cuddly. Like the two we meet tonight. They work for Bexley- | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
based Drainsafe Limited a company specialising in boilers and drains, | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
imagine! Susanne Black called them out last December when her boiler | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
went on the blink. It looks like Susanne Black is originally from | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
Finland. I get a nice man who goes up there | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
to look at the problem and says this is the part you need or two | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
parts. He cannot get them for the same day. So we waited until he can | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
come back the next day. He comes back the next day, what | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
happens then? He fitted the parts. I was rather happy to have the | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
heating back on the house. It was cold. | :14:34. | :14:40. | |
40 minutes later, when he had gone, it all goes off again. | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
The same guy came back 24 hours later, called the boiler | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
manufacture and discovered he had not fixed the problem correctly. He | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
had to start from scratch. I enquired whether it would be | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
covered by the guarantee. They said no because I had | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
misdiagnosed the problem. It was not their job to fix if, pay for it. | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
So, to be clear, as a Drainsafe customer it is you who has to | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
decide what is wrong with the boiler before you call them? | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
Apparently so. An expert has said this is a simple | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
fault for a trained gas fitter and should have been fixed for �220. | :15:24. | :15:30. | |
Yet Susanne Black was charged a massive �724. From a company that | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
promises satisfaction guaranteed! They just took my money. They took | :15:34. | :15:40. | |
almost two weeks to do the work and... Yeah, it was a very | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
unpleasant experience. So, �724 to fix a problem that | :15:45. | :15:50. | |
should have cost �220. Not good. There is more, we heard from a | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
landlord in a flat in south London. This is him. His name is Jas. When | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
he called the company about a blocked bathroom drain. They said | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
they would fix it the following morning. They asked him for a | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
initial payment of �66 from the credit card. They said they would | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
let him know the final bill. I phoned them. They said that | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
everything was done. That everything was fine. I said how | :16:15. | :16:22. | |
much was the charge. They said � 1,056. I was shocked. I said it | :16:23. | :16:30. | |
can't be that much! Indeed! This job should have cost half of that. | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
What is worse, Jas said that they took the full payment without his | :16:34. | :16:40. | |
consent. Time to put on secret cameras and | :16:40. | :16:48. | |
call Mike Griffin. Mike Griffin! Yes, not literally. | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
Yes, it is Mike, he is a plumber. He is at the top of his game. | :16:53. | :17:03. | |
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We are in luck! Big builder? No, look here. | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
We have had it powered through and washed, now we have filled it up | :17:11. | :17:18. | |
with lots of rice, pasta and topped it off with a bit of broccoli. | :17:18. | :17:25. | |
Yes, this is not just a blockage, it is a Mike Griffin blockage. Any | :17:25. | :17:30. | |
plumber should be able to clear it in just under 20 minutes. | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
Right, we are in position. Homeowner John is showing us his | :17:36. | :17:44. | |
moves. Twin pistols. Shut up! And Drainsafe are on their way! At | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
least, we thought they were on their way... I phoned up about an | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
hour ago. I think they were about 3 minutes away, I was told. | :17:53. | :18:00. | |
We are still waiting... Another 30 minutes? Any minute now... See what | :18:00. | :18:06. | |
the time is now... The audience may be getting bored, I will show my | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
Muppet. That's better. Finally, four hours late, they arrive. | :18:11. | :18:17. | |
Better late than never. Jason is not alone. He is with his | :18:17. | :18:27. | |
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buddy, BuzzLightyear. Ryan, actually. I wonder what they will | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
get up to today? Clearing the blockage should take 20 minutes and | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
cost up to �100, but it turns out that Jason and Ryan have a lot more | :18:41. | :18:48. | |
time and money on their minds. Next, Fiat, the puntow, the Grande | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
Punto and the Panda. Three small cars, one big problem. The owners | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
too scared to drive them. The Fiat Grande Punto. Good looking, | :19:01. | :19:09. | |
affordable and most importantly, safe. Small. Sheerbgs -- chic, and | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
Italian. A winning combination. So I hoped, but as for the safety, I'm | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
not sure. There is a serious problem with power steering on some | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
Fiats. That is costly to fix and potentially very dangerous. Not so | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
attractive. Dominic's car was a Fiat puntow. He | :19:30. | :19:36. | |
bought it second-hand in 2010. I always wanted a Fiat puntow. I | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
always wanted one. Now I have one, I am happy. I'm in the army, I have | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
the kit in the boot. They are reliable. | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
Economical, but less than a year after he bought the car, the | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
problems with the power steering began. | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
Something beeped on the dash board. The power steering was a problem. | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
It made it really hard and heavy to steer. | :20:02. | :20:06. | |
A problem with the electrics caused the power steering to fail once. | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
Within week it is went again. According to Dominic it failed 50 | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
times in the space of six months. Scary and costly. | :20:15. | :20:22. | |
As the car was not under warranty, I had to fork out �654. | :20:22. | :20:29. | |
But for other Fiat Grande Punto owners it proved even more costly. | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
This is probably the most unreliable car I have ever had in | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
my life it can go any time, the power steering. Even on the | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
motorway. I have lost the confidence in driving the car. So | :20:41. | :20:47. | |
much so, I have had to take out the highest level of insurance cover. | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
What does it feel like? It is not like driving a car. It is really | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
heavy. Of course, cars have not always had | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
power steering. It is possible to drive without it but the problem | :21:00. | :21:05. | |
comes when the system fails, it make it is difficult to handle, | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
even for the strongest motorist. Now I might know the cars, I may | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
even impress you with a bit of Italian, but if it is brute | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
strength, don't look at me, look at him. | :21:20. | :21:28. | |
Meet Eddie Hall. He can shift 160 kilograms of solid stone and drag a | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
30-tonne truck, but can Eddie drive this obstacle course without power | :21:34. | :21:39. | |
steering? Yes, it is the strong man's turn to drive Sarah's Fiat | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
when the power steering cuts out without a warning. | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
Our car expert has a special device now to de-activate the power | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
steering on the car with a flick of a switch, but Eddie has no idea | :21:54. | :22:04. | |
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when it will happen. So, here goes. -- looking good at the moment. Look. | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
Something has gone. Once the system fails, Eddie has to struggle like | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
mad to steer the wheel. The seat belt even slips off his shoulder. | :22:22. | :22:27. | |
He is working so hard! He is having to slow right down. | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
He does not need to go to the gym, I tell you. | :22:31. | :22:37. | |
So, if the power steering failure can cause struggle for the | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
Britain's Srongest Man, what hope is there for other Fiat drivers? | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
Watchdog heard from 132 of them complaining of power steering | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
problems made between 2000 and 2008. Some are grand grandground and Fiat | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
owners, others like John, own a Panda. | :22:56. | :23:01. | |
My father always had Italian cars. When I went to Italy, we loved | :23:01. | :23:08. | |
looking at Italian cars. I have had 30 Fiats. I have had this car five | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
years, in the five years I have had three power steering units. | :23:13. | :23:20. | |
I am fed up with it. It is a safety issue. I'm an | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
experienced driver. I teach car driving. | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
It is worrying and expensive. When it went the third time, the | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
steering column was not under warranty. Fiat said: They don't | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
accept that the problems that are experienced are a result of the | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
manufacturing history. So they are basically saying it is not their | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
fault? Yes, which is rubbish. Watchdog phoned five independent | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
garages around the UK, they seemed well aware of the issue. In | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
Scotland, they said that some Fiats have problems and the electric | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
power steering can pack up. In Lincolnshire, they described the | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
problem with the puntow as a well- known common fault. Four out of | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
five garages told us that the power steering can be faulty on either | :24:10. | :24:16. | |
the Fiat puntow and the Panda. So, what is the problem and should Fiat | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
be taking responsibility? There is a fault on the electric side. That | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
causes the loss of power steering. Given the fault lines, I think this | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
should not happen in the hieftime of the car, I think that Fiat | :24:29. | :24:34. | |
should be replacing the units. But until Fiat takes the action, it | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
seems that the owners will have problems. It may be easier for | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
Eddie to pull the car, rather than drive it. Fiat will not comment on | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
individual cases but confirmed that a small number of puntow and Panda | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
models have had power-assisted steering repairs. They say that the | :24:53. | :24:58. | |
fault is indicated bay warning light. That the car can be driven, | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
although with increased effort on the wheel. They say that they aim | :25:02. | :25:09. | |
to give the customers exemplary service and advise people with | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
problems to call their local dealer and the Fiat customer care team. | :25:14. | :25:20. | |
Tesco, and the latest so-called bargains. Here is this month's | :25:20. | :25:26. | |
brochure. Hundreds of price cuts, but getting to the checkout and | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
some of the goods cost more. So, we went shopping to this Tesco branch | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
up the road in West London. We found Nestle Shreddies advertised | :25:36. | :25:44. | |
on sale for �1.34. The price at the checkout, �149. Nestle Cheerios, | :25:44. | :25:53. | |
the brochure price, �137. The checkout price, �1 43. | :25:53. | :26:03. | |
:26:03. | :26:05. | ||
And Hellman's, headlines 1.69, the price we paid was �1.99. Reeocka, | :26:05. | :26:14. | |
�5.99, we were charged �6.49. -- Rioja. They say that they are | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
printing errors, they have high lighted the correct promotional | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
prices. After all of that, Annie, no doubt you are tempted to do your | :26:24. | :26:30. | |
shopping at a 9 p store? Never go anywhere else. | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
But be careful. It started as a single shop 11 | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
years ago. Now there are more than 150 of them all across the UK. | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
Generating profits 6 �6 .3 million. What is the secret. | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
Cheap food and cheap cosmetics. think is good for the money. Money | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
is tight, you have to look around. Where money is tight, we are bound | :26:54. | :27:02. | |
to be attracted by promises like this... This... And this... We will | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
not be beaten on price. Clear and definitive, yes. True? Let's find | :27:07. | :27:14. | |
out. I wanted to check what you mean by | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
we will not be beaten by price in your stores? Our researchers are | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
putting the claim to the test, but let's confirm with a call to one of | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
the stores that the company stands by the promise. | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
It means that the product you buy from our store you cannot buy | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
cheaper in someone else's store. As simple as that? As simple as | :27:37. | :27:43. | |
that. So, let's buy products. 40 of them. | :27:43. | :27:50. | |
Chosen at random and purchased over a three week period in March and | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
April. Using data supplied by My Supermarket, we compared the prices | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
with the 99p Stores with the big four supermarkets on the same dates. | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
So, let's see if the claim really stands up to the scrutiny. We | :28:05. | :28:11. | |
bought this bottle of Carex hand wash from the 99p Stores for guess | :28:12. | :28:19. | |
how much? Yes, you have it, 99p, but then we bought this from Tesco | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
and Sainsbury's, the same bottle was some 19 pence cheaper. Then | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
Coke, at the 99p Stores you can get two pore �180, but ASDA and | :28:31. | :28:40. | |
Morrisons had an offer, two bottles for �1.50. Finally, Oreos, at the | :28:40. | :28:48. | |
99p Stores you can get two packets for, 99 pence, but at Tesco, two | :28:48. | :28:53. | |
packets for 98 pence it does not sound a lot, but it all adds up. So | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
despite the boost, the 99p Stores clearly can be beaten on price by | :28:57. | :29:03. | |
the big supermarkets, but what about another of their claims, un | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
beetable valuable? Well, that does not always stand up -- unbeatable | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
value? That does not always stand up. Tyke this Right Guard that they | :29:13. | :29:20. | |
are selling for 99 pence. At Morrisons we can buy a larger can | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
for 26 pence more. It is Morrisons offering the better value. | :29:25. | :29:33. | |
And finally, there is Flash, the all-purpose cleaner. We got this | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
500 millilitre bottle for 9 pence from the 99p Stores but spending 1 | :29:38. | :29:44. | |
pence more at ASDA, you got twice the amount. What was that about | :29:44. | :29:52. | |
unbeatable value? On at least one occasion, 70 of the 40 -- seven of | :29:52. | :29:57. | |
the 40 products were cheaper. This store has a we will not be | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
beaten on price claim. Now that claim is not qualified. There are | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
no caveats to it. No points to support it. There is nothing so say | :30:06. | :30:12. | |
if you find it cheaper elsewhere, what do you do, so therefore that | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
gives the impression and leads consumers to be believing that this | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
is an absolute promise of value, but what we stpiend that you can | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
find the goods cheaper elsewhere. It is not as if the 99p Stores | :30:26. | :30:32. | |
don't know what the prices of the big four supermarkets are charging, | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
they make their own comparisons instore. Like this one. | :30:36. | :30:42. | |
The stuffing for 99 pence for three at the 99p Stores, compared to | :30:42. | :30:51. | |
�1765 at Sainsbury's. -- �1765. | :30:51. | :30:56. | |
-- �1.65. It sounds good, if only it was accurate. We visited | :30:56. | :31:02. | |
Sainsbury's. We found that the stuffing was not �1.65 for three as | :31:02. | :31:08. | |
claimed, but �1.20. Over the course of the trip, we checked out 37 of | :31:08. | :31:12. | |
their price comparison labels. Incredibly, 27 of them were not | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
accurate. Sometimes the rival store's prices | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
were less than claimed, sometimes more. In all 27 cases, 99p Stores | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
were cheaper, but why the inaccuracies at all? Maybe because | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
some price comparisons were made months ago, even as far back as | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
2010. So the general image of the store | :31:34. | :31:39. | |
is that it is good value, they will not be beaten on price, but not all | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
goods are the best value on the market, then they are not making | :31:43. | :31:48. | |
price comparisons that they should Oh, well, after all that hard work, | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
at least our team could look forward to cheap refreshment, | :31:52. | :31:59. | |
thanks to this great offer on Coca- Cola. Two bottles for 99 pence, but | :31:59. | :32:08. | |
at the till they charged us �1780. Wow! OK. With me now is the co- | :32:08. | :32:16. | |
founder and owner of 99p Stores, which incidentally are 186. | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
Mr Lilani thank you very much for coming in. The sign says not to be | :32:21. | :32:27. | |
beaten by value, unbeatable value, that is not true? Well, 82% of the | :32:27. | :32:32. | |
time we beat the supermarkets. I am sorry that some signs would appear | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
misleading. We have followed the research and removed the signs that | :32:36. | :32:41. | |
say unbeatable value. We are to replace them with new signs to show | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
that they are 82.5% of the time we beat the supermarkets. Those odds | :32:47. | :32:53. | |
are stacked in the consumers' favour. Whys that taken you until | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
watchdog got on to this to change which was accurate, which is not | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
beaten on price and unbeatable value, when it should have been | :33:01. | :33:06. | |
saying some of the time we are unbeatable on value? Well when the | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
signs were put up they were unbeatable value, but in today's | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
retail market, the prices change quickly. With the internet they | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
change almost every hour. The mistake we made was not to keep | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
checking the prices, but we have changed the systems now. | :33:22. | :33:27. | |
You have comparison labels on the shelves, some of them as old as | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
2010, so two-year-old prices that are not accurate. There were 27 out | :33:32. | :33:39. | |
of 37 prices were inaccurate? the report acknowledged that | :33:39. | :33:43. | |
although some were inaccurate, we are still beating the supermarkets. | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
We are cheaper than the supermarkets. | :33:46. | :33:51. | |
They are not accurate. We looked at the prices comparing with the | :33:51. | :33:57. | |
supermarket. 27 out of 37 were inaccurate. That is 100% accurate | :33:57. | :34:03. | |
research! But each product was cheaper than the supermarket. We | :34:03. | :34:11. | |
are cheaper than the supermarkets. You are not, it is Carex that is 99 | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
pence at your store, it is 80 pence at Tesco. | :34:15. | :34:22. | |
Let's take an example. The Flash cleaner, 99 pence for 500 mills at | :34:22. | :34:29. | |
your store. In ASDA it is �1 for 1,000 mls. | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
That offer has expired. ASDA has doubled the price. | :34:34. | :34:40. | |
But when we did the research, there was twice as much value at ASDA | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
than you do at the 99p Stores? acknowledge that the signage was | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
inaccurate, some of it. We have taken that on board. Every price | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
comparison has been removed from the shelves. | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
I am glad we had a result from you. Thank you very much. | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
Matt? Back to Bexley-based Drainsafe Limited, now. Not to be | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
confused with companies of similar names, that is because this one has | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
form for overcharging. We have asked them to clear a simple | :35:08. | :35:14. | |
blockage. They sent two lads, Jason and Ryan to deal with it. So, will | :35:14. | :35:22. | |
they turn out to be friends or foes? John is our stooge. There he | :35:22. | :35:30. | |
is. His drain is in a jam. Nothing that the two boys should be able to | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
clear with elbow grease. Mike say it is should be cleared in 20 | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
minutes, maximum. I don't know what is going on down | :35:38. | :35:43. | |
here. We will work out the paperwork and tell you what is | :35:43. | :35:51. | |
happening. The paperwork swrbg important, to be clear. | :35:51. | :35:56. | |
-- the paperwork is important. That is �65 for the first hour and | :35:56. | :36:03. | |
�55 on the half for the plant. It depends on the nature of the | :36:03. | :36:09. | |
gravity of the situation. If we have to get the jetter out, | :36:09. | :36:15. | |
it is a two-man job. Hmm... The trouble is that the | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
forms he is asking us to sign say something different. He does not | :36:19. | :36:25. | |
make this clear. On the phone he quoted the labour charge as �65 per | :36:25. | :36:30. | |
half an hour. What he is not saying is that according to the forms in | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
very small print we will pay �65 per man, per half an hour. With two | :36:35. | :36:41. | |
of them on the job, that is a massive hike. Of course, there is | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
the additional �55 for the jetter. So with charges like that, they | :36:46. | :36:55. | |
better be good and quick. How long do you rek it will be? | :36:55. | :37:00. | |
How long do you reckon it will be? We will have a look. | :37:00. | :37:07. | |
I am worrying! There is no need for the blasting. It should be clearing | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
the gully, sticking a rod down, job done in a couple of minutes. | :37:12. | :37:17. | |
Instead of trying the cheap way first. They reach for the expensive | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
jetter. You have to put the machinery away and get your hands | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
dirty. Right, time for a look at that gully. | :37:26. | :37:33. | |
Yeah, yeah, that definitely is a gully! Yeah, yeah, without a doubt, | :37:33. | :37:40. | |
I would say that is definitely, that definitely is a gully! Right, | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
now let's clear it up. Let's get on with it. Finally. | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
Hold on? Are they pushing the stuff that is causing the blockage | :37:50. | :37:56. | |
together. You have to pull it up, not push it in! Now the jetting | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
starting up. It seems to have a nasty effect on the van. It is | :38:01. | :38:07. | |
smoking! After a few moments of jetting. Dr Jason gives the | :38:07. | :38:09. | |
Drainsafe diagnosis. It is not goofpltd | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
This is lime scale. It will break under extreme pressure. You have to | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
blast it to get it back up. That is solid. | :38:19. | :38:25. | |
That is solid with that stuff. So, what is the plan? Just keep | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
jetting. When we break through and clear it, | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
we will let you know. All it is that they are not able to | :38:33. | :38:39. | |
clear a basic gully. They should have stuck their hands | :38:39. | :38:44. | |
in, picked out the dirt in there. It is rammed. It is rammed to the | :38:44. | :38:47. | |
brim. Trying to push it down, but... I | :38:47. | :38:51. | |
don't think that I can. He is pushing the dirt around the | :38:51. | :38:58. | |
bend of the trap. He really should be dragging it out, | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
not pushing it down. They carry on pushing it down which drags the | :39:02. | :39:11. | |
whole thing out. In fact, in the end it takes two | :39:11. | :39:16. | |
men a full hour to do the job. Even with the aid of a jetter! It should | :39:16. | :39:26. | |
:39:26. | :39:45. | ||
have taken one man 20 minutes. Mike? Is he OK?! No wonder our | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
expert has gone faint. The job should have cost less than �100. | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
How did they get this figure. I worked it out. See that machine. | :39:55. | :40:00. | |
Obviously for health and safety reasons it cannot be manned by one | :40:00. | :40:05. | |
of us. It still does not add up. Call the | :40:05. | :40:15. | |
:40:15. | :40:16. | ||
Open University! So, working on the basis that X is 65. When X is a | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
halve hourly charge. Then we have two half hours, two X, | :40:22. | :40:30. | |
two men they charged us for plus one Y. Times that for the jetter, | :40:30. | :40:36. | |
it equals � 444. But they charge us two half an | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
hours, plus two Y so double the charge for the jert, plus the VAT, | :40:42. | :40:51. | |
it equals �576. Quite different. In other words, they have pulled a | :40:51. | :40:55. | |
fast one. Exactly. Yes, they have. Although | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
you would never think it, judging by Jason's expression. Before you | :40:59. | :41:05. | |
go, guys, tell us again why the job was so complicated. | :41:05. | :41:15. | |
:41:15. | :41:34. | ||
What it was a build up of lime Hi-five! Actually, they have just | :41:34. | :41:41. | |
ripped us off! Yes, and rather royally as well. Still, skraison | :41:41. | :41:47. | |
and Ryan are only the -- Jason and Ryan are own the workers. We have | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
to find the king of the hill. To see who is pulling their strings | :41:54. | :42:02. | |
and who is the organ grinders, but before that, Ticketmaster, Virgin | :42:02. | :42:08. | |
Media, -- Virgin Atlantic, and the Halifax. | :42:08. | :42:12. | |
Here is Rick. Paperwork, sometimes it feels like | :42:12. | :42:18. | |
we are drowning in it. Keeping on top of household bills. Or filing | :42:18. | :42:23. | |
tax returns. Yes it is a pain. There is really only so much admin | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
one person can do before giving up. Big companies -- companies, though, | :42:29. | :42:34. | |
they have been an army of people to process paperwork, along with the | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
best systems and technology. So why when they do admin do we end up | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
paying through the nose? The big ticket agencies are among the worst | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
offenders. They have always liked booking fees, but now it has gone | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
way beyond the nominal charge. Fancy taking in a west end show in | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
the summer? You're in for a shock. I'm on the website for We Will Rock | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
You. If I want to book it takes me straight through to Ticketmaster, | :43:02. | :43:07. | |
when I -- where I can buy a couple of tickets for �6 2. And where I | :43:07. | :43:14. | |
will be charged an extra �8.25 fee per ticket! That is bad enough, but | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
what I don't understand is why this company varies the fee, according | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
to the price of the ticket you are buying. Surely it does not cost | :43:23. | :43:29. | |
more to process expensive tickets? Why do they charge you more? And | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
what's this?! Even after making me shell out over �8 on admin fees, | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
they are now charging me an extra �4 on my order to collect the | :43:39. | :43:45. | |
tickets from the box office! Or, even to e-mail them to me! In which | :43:45. | :43:52. | |
case I will have to print them out myself! I'm being charged to do my | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
own admin! I wonder if it is the same on Broadway as the West End? | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
Well, I'm planning to go to New York later this year. So let's have | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
a look at a couple of the main airline carriers and see what they | :44:04. | :44:10. | |
have to offer. On the lowest fares, well, Virgin Atlantic ticket prices | :44:10. | :44:16. | |
seem OK, but hold on. If I have to change the day of travel, they will | :44:16. | :44:20. | |
charge me up to a whopping �120 to do so. | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
OK. What about British Airways? Well, if you have to alter your day | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
with them over the phone, the fee is much less, just �30, but hold | :44:30. | :44:38. | |
up... I've just found out that they will also charge �100 for a penalty | :44:38. | :44:46. | |
fee for changing the details, so it comes to �130! Perhaps it is just | :44:46. | :44:51. | |
me, but these admin charges are not only now more expensive, they are | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
becoming more widespread. There are eye-watering arrangement fees on | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
mortgages. Unjustified chargess for paying by plastic and huge | :45:01. | :45:06. | |
penalties for going overdrawn on the bank account. Don't get me | :45:06. | :45:10. | |
started on cars. Drivers are hammered with the cost of the fuel, | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
the tax, the servicing, and the parking! As if all of that is not | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
enough, there is the insurance! Plus the admin fees that they pile | :45:19. | :45:29. | |
:45:29. | :45:30. | ||
Joe Townsend insures his car with Halifax. When he moved house, they | :45:30. | :45:37. | |
hit him with a premium as it was a higher risk neighbourhood, but they | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
slapped on an �25 admin charge, he was told for producing new | :45:41. | :45:47. | |
documents. That is right, �25 for a couple of letters! Have you had a | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
similar charge from your car insurer lately? This could be the | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
reason. Companies can charge what they like as long as the charges | :45:54. | :45:59. | |
are considered fair. Do you know it is like when buying | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
a ticket for an airline, you think you have a deal. Then you discover | :46:03. | :46:08. | |
that you are charged �30 for the baggage, more for the use of the | :46:08. | :46:12. | |
credit card and lots of extra fees. In other words, some insurers are | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
looming you in with seemingly low- costs, then hitting you are a range | :46:16. | :46:20. | |
of additional fees. Yes, it sounds familiar. | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
When you buy a policy you have to look at the total cost. That is not | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
just the monthly or annual premium, but the other fees. Go through the | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
small print. Find out the other charges that could be lumped on you. | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
There may be reams of terms and conditions, but you have to go | :46:38. | :46:47. | |
through all of them! Just ask Karen. She called her insurance company to | :46:47. | :46:52. | |
say she had moved house. In the documents it said to advise | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
them to contact them with a change of details. So I did. They then | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
said they would charge a �55 for the change of address. When I first | :47:02. | :47:08. | |
took out the policy, I looked at the small print. It says an admin | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
fee for changing or amending, which I believed it would be if I changed | :47:13. | :47:18. | |
the car or to change the insurance from comprehensive to third party, | :47:18. | :47:25. | |
but I did not think that changing the address would incur a �55. | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
�55 to change an address?! You would not catch me being stung like | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
that. I read everything before going into a deal. | :47:37. | :47:44. | |
Wait res! This does include service, doesn't it? We asked one call in | :47:44. | :47:49. | |
United Nations -- we asked One Call Direct about the charge. It says | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
that the charges are transparent to make clear to customers at the | :47:53. | :47:58. | |
point of sale. Halifax said that fees were in line with industry | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
standards. As for the others, Ticketmaster say that the feels are | :48:02. | :48:07. | |
the sole source of revenue. That they don't set them independently, | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
that they are agreed with the clients. The charges for We Will | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
Rock You are not typical. It can only offer the print-tickets-at- | :48:16. | :48:20. | |
home once the high-level instruction has been installed in | :48:21. | :48:26. | |
the venue and the flight changes, braise and Virgin Atlantic say that | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
they explain to customers that there is a price change before the | :48:30. | :48:35. | |
purchase. Here are a few more stories: | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
Barcelona versus Chelsea, one of the billingest upsets of recent | :48:40. | :48:50. | |
:48:50. | :48:50. | ||
times. I am not talking about the result. BSkyB, Go go, -- Sky Go, | :48:50. | :48:55. | |
suffered technical problems, the fans were prevented logging on | :48:55. | :49:00. | |
through desktops and hand held twices as John Terry went off and | :49:00. | :49:06. | |
Chelsea went 2-0 down. Sky acknowledged the problems, but were | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
hit with complaints at the same time that Ramirez was leading the | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
fightback. Then Fernando Torres had equalised and the Blues were | :49:15. | :49:20. | |
through to the Champions League final. Sky apologised and is | :49:20. | :49:27. | |
investigating. What a Messi! Low Cost Holdiays with dedicated and | :49:27. | :49:35. | |
experienced customer care. Offering 24/7 advice, but don't ask | :49:35. | :49:38. | |
geography questions. Jamie O'Neill wanted to know why cheapest flights | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
that the customer offered Scottish customers were from over the border | :49:44. | :49:48. | |
in Newcastle. He got this reply: Newcastle is indeed located in | :49:48. | :49:53. | |
Scotland. It is a city, not a capital. Low Cost Holdiays has | :49:53. | :49:59. | |
apologised, blaming the error on a call centre trainee in India, which | :49:59. | :50:09. | |
:50:09. | :50:09. | ||
is, indeed, a country! And Virgin Media, the Avertising Standards | :50:09. | :50:15. | |
Authority ruled this promotion miss leading as the small print was too | :50:15. | :50:21. | |
small. It contained key information about availability, costs, contract | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
lengths, information that the customers have to know. Virgin | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
claimed that the lettering was larger than industry standard, that | :50:28. | :50:34. | |
it was not responsible for the poor print quality. The ASA banned the | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
ad. Very clear. Last call for Drainsafe Limited, of | :50:39. | :50:46. | |
Bexley in Kent, now, the company that massively overcharged us for a | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
simple drainage clearance job. The employies, celebrated the fact by | :50:52. | :50:57. | |
hi-fiving each other. Are they company men? Or just two bad | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
apples? During the course of the investigation, we called the | :51:00. | :51:05. | |
company out on two other occasions. Both times one plumber turned up, | :51:05. | :51:10. | |
we were not overcharged, but we have been ripped off once. So had | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
the customers in touch with us. We have to know if the instructions | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
are coming from the top. So So what now? Time to complain to the boss. | :51:22. | :51:27. | |
A team maybe we will call Claire phoned the manager to see how he | :51:27. | :51:32. | |
explained the behaviour of the lads. I wanted to give you a ring about | :51:32. | :51:37. | |
pricing. It seems extortionate. I don't understand how it got so | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
high? Claire plains that the charges were not made clear. Plus | :51:41. | :51:46. | |
we were charged twice for the jetter. Stuart councils up with a | :51:46. | :51:52. | |
new explanation. Our calculations are at �65 for | :51:52. | :51:58. | |
half an hour. I have just checked. They were on site for hour-and-a- | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
half. Really? On our calculation it is | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
would have come to more, they would have given you discount. | :52:06. | :52:12. | |
He goes on to say that they were there for 1737 minutes. | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
I can give you a re-worked invoice, but with the correct figures it | :52:16. | :52:23. | |
will cost you more money. They wanted to charge us more! | :52:23. | :52:29. | |
is outrageous pricing! I do apologise. I can offer a 10% | :52:29. | :52:34. | |
discount in the future. Now, there is an offer we can | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
refuse. As the manager is clearly backing the boys who overcharged us. | :52:38. | :52:47. | |
We reckon to -- it is time to visit him in Bexley. We are meeting up | :52:47. | :52:51. | |
with Stuart in Drainsafe Limited to ask him about the crazy amount of | :52:51. | :52:57. | |
money we had to pay to have the drains unblocked and the hi-five | :52:57. | :53:03. | |
moment that was beautiful. So, here is Stuart Johnson, any | :53:03. | :53:10. | |
moment. Fingers crossed. Stuart is here. We are ready to go. | :53:10. | :53:20. | |
That's him there. He has won... A trophy! I wonder what that is for? | :53:20. | :53:30. | |
:53:30. | :53:37. | ||
Hi, Stuart, how is it going? Stuart? Stuart? BBC Rogue Traders, | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
so that we are clear. So you can get in touch with us. I noticed you | :53:43. | :53:53. | |
:53:53. | :54:01. | ||
were carrying trophies, was that for overcharging? Why can't we talk | :54:01. | :54:08. | |
now? We are talking about �576 for an hour's work. That is what we are | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
talking about. That is �576 for one hour's work with a hi-five and a | :54:14. | :54:24. | |
celebration afterwards. I wonder what the trophies were | :54:24. | :54:28. | |
for? It is clear that Stuart and his colleagues are not keen to chat. | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
Stuart says he will talk to us later. I don't quite know what the | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
problem with talking to us right now is, but there you go. | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
Drainsafe! As you can see, operating, charging ridiculous | :54:42. | :54:48. | |
somes of money and at the moment -- charging ridiculous sums of money | :54:48. | :54:52. | |
and at the moment not willing to talk to us. That may change. | :54:52. | :55:02. | |
:55:02. | :55:05. | ||
Stuart Johnson did call us later. What about the blatant rip-off that | :55:05. | :55:15. | |
:55:15. | :55:22. | ||
involved us? The problem is... When we spoke to you afterwards about | :55:22. | :55:28. | |
that you said in fact that it should have been more. So, we as | :55:28. | :55:36. | |
the kust mer, we come to you to point that out -- we as the | :55:37. | :55:42. | |
customer point it out to you, then you say you should be charging more | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
for us. I must have misunderstood. Stuart | :55:47. | :55:50. | |
says that the guys are not on commission. So there is no benefit | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
to them for cheating the customer. We don't rip people off. | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
Unfortunately, our evidence suggests the opposite. | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
Matt, I've completed over 1,000 jobs. | :56:01. | :56:08. | |
In all of that time, mate, I have had maybe ten complaints? That is | :56:08. | :56:13. | |
not bad. I tell you what, Stuart... On that | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
note, he says he will look at all of the evidence and get become to | :56:18. | :56:23. | |
Thank you very much, Stuart. The company now tell us that they | :56:23. | :56:27. | |
take our allegations seriously and deny they are rogues, they say that | :56:27. | :56:31. | |
they are open and fair with the pricing. They say that they don't | :56:31. | :56:38. | |
lie about the scale of the problems and always carry out a drain clean | :56:38. | :56:42. | |
unless customers specify otherwise. They have offered a partial refund | :56:42. | :56:48. | |
for the billing mistake. That the boys' high-five was to celebrate | :56:48. | :56:54. | |
that they completed the job. They say that they went out of their way | :56:54. | :56:59. | |
to help Susanne Black and they refunded Jas not because they were | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
in the wrong, but because he complained so much. | :57:03. | :57:11. | |
Meanwhile, Stuart and the two hi- fiverings are going here on the | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
Rogue's Gallery. And the power steering problems. | :57:15. | :57:21. | |
Dan Worthington says his system packs up about once a week. Mike | :57:21. | :57:26. | |
Lynton says he had the same problem, that he had to pay more than �800 | :57:26. | :57:32. | |
to replace the steering column. And Will Frost has an interesting | :57:32. | :57:37. | |
idea: Can I charge companies an admin fee for ringing them. | :57:37. | :57:42. | |
Nice work. I like it. Keep sending your stories and tip-offs. Go to | :57:42. | :57:52. | |
:57:52. | :57:56. | ||
Or write to us: Coming up next week: Vauxhall, the | :57:56. | :58:01. | |
fault with the Insignia, is it causing cars to burst into flames? | :58:01. | :58:04. | |
The Royal Mail about to raise the cost of stamps again. What sort of | :58:04. | :58:10. | |
service are we getting in return? And ASDA roll-backs, the | :58:10. | :58:14. |