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Last week we showed you remote-controlled drones

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You've since been in touch with stories

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We meet a family who's one-year-old lost an eye.

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So why isn't more being done to keep us safe from these devices?

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We're live for the next hour, fighting for your rights.

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We see evidence of the growing trade in illegal puppies,

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which brings sick and dying dogs into our homes in their thousands.

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I ask Minister George Eustace what exactly he's doing to stop them.

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And Gizmo, our rescue puppy, is now confident enough to join us.

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Also, do you take your phone on holiday?

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Many firms offer travel packages which claim to save you money,

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but you've been telling us how they can actually cost you thousands.

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And Black Friday, the one-day sales phenomenon imported from America -

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it kicks off tomorow, but before you get that credit card

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out, you might want to listen to what I've got to tell you later.

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Is it Black Friday or is it "Blag Friday"?

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And, in Rogue Traders we catch out a Cardiff car dealer who doesn't

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impress this class of nine-year-olds.

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It makes me feel like he's a little greedy, that he wants to take things

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for himself. And selfish. And like, where's my money. You haven't handed

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that money over yet, that's money you said you were going to pay

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straight away under contract. You've failed to do that haven't you? They

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spotted it quickly didn't they? Now, last week we highlighted

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the safety risk posed by the thousands of remote control drones

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flying around above our heads. We've seen how do you to pilot or

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mechanical error they can fall out of the sky.

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Since then, lots of you have been in touch to tell us about damage to

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property and potentially dangerous near-miss accidents.

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But this week a family contacted us after their son suffered

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life-changing injuries. It is hard to belief that just seven

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weeks ago Oscar was in an horrific accident which in one instant

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changed his life forever. I was told he was hit in the face by a drone. I

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can't really remember what I was thinking at the time. I just

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remember I was waiting for somebody to come and say that it was OK. But

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sadly for Oscar it was far from OK. The toddler had been in the garden

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with his dad when their family friend Simon, an experienced drone

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operator, decided to test one out. It was up for about 60 seconds. As I

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brought it back down to land, it clipped the tree and span around,

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and lost control. The next thing I heard my friend was shrieking oh,

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God no, and his baby on the floor crying. The drone had caught Oscar

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in the face and its propeller sliced through his right eye. He was taken

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to hospital in an ambulance. It wasn't until we got to Birmingham he

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opened his eye a little bit. What I saw, I can still see it now, what I

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thought was the bottom half of his eye. It is the worst thing I've ever

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seen. I just hoped and prayed all the way there that what I saw wasn't

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true, that it wasn't real. You can't take it in. It's the shock of it

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all. It's just too much really. And you treat your friend children like

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your own. You love them more if anything else, I think. It gets to

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you. You feel the pain. You suffer their pain. Little Oscar underwent

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several emergency operations as surgeons desperately tried to save

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his eye. They did that it was one of the worst eye incidents they had

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seen. It was hard. I cried that much there that even the consultant

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brought tears had her face. But after losing his vision, the doctors

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made the tough decision to remove his eye. Straight away we knew that

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the outlook for the vision long term was extremely poor. I have seen a

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lot of ocular injuries and globe ruptures. That said, I've not seen

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one in somebody so young. I've also not seen one from a drone. I've not

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seen a drone injury. Any instrument that come close to the eye and

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within reach of it at high speed can cause devastating injures. I suppose

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given that there are so many around now and in frequent use, one may

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expect several more injuries of this kind. Before Oscar's accident, his

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family, like some of us, were unaware of the potential dangers of

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drones. It is an issue that we highlighted on last week's

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programme, and after our report Oscar's grandmother, Anita, decided

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to contact us. Why did you want to speak to us? Because I watched the

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programme on the Thursday about the drones. I went on the website. I was

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really shocked at one of the comments where somebody said, my

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11-year-old son has got one. It's a toy. They're not toys. They are very

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dangerous pieces of equipment. You don't realise the dangers. You don't

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expect something so severe to happen from what people call toys. I

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wouldn't class them as a toy. It is a terrible lesson that everyone

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involved has had to learn the hard way. People need to be aware of how

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dangerous they can be. Since the accident's happened now, I haven't

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flown once. Every time I look at the drones, it turns my stomach. I feel

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sick. Oscar's family are trying to put the traumas of the past few

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weeks behind them but they know that this is just the beginning. He faces

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more procedures now before he's able to have a prosthetic eye fitted. You

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wish you could be there instead of him. He's a baby. He's still a baby.

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And everything he's had to go through you go through with him.

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Tell me, how is Oscar now? He's doing really well. He's doing a lot

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better than what I would expect. I look Atos car and he's a happy

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little lad. He's obviously getting lots of love here at home. How are

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you dialling with it? I don't really know at the minute. One day I could

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be fine, not crying, and I have days where I think it's hit me and I will

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cry for hours on end. Every day when you wake up, it is like you've

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forgotten about it, until you go into him and you pick him up and

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look at him. You just fall back into what's happened. I've had a lot of

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nightmares, silly things, him playing football with his friends

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and his false eye falls out, and all the treatment he's had and the

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trauma he's gone through. Christmas is coming and a lot of people will

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consider buying these drones as Christmas presents. What would you

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say to them? Read the warnings. There must be a warning in there.

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The last thing you want is somebody opening one on Christmas morning,

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getting it out and having a quick fly, because it's so exciting.

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They've got to be responsible to make sure that they are flown

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somewhere big and open. Not risking other people's lives as well as

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their own. Whatever it takes to make people aware, if they watch this

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programme and see my grandson's face, if that doesn't do it, nothing

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will. In the light of what happened,

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we asked the Government what they are doing

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to protect us from these potentially They told us they are

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about to consult on licensing and registration

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and will have a strategy in place So, until they make

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their minds up about what changes to make, here's something you can do to

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make your drone safer - Some come with the drone

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when you buy it, like this one. Others you have to buy separately,

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like these. These can stop the blades causing

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injury if there's an accident. One of these guys could have saved

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Oscar's eye. Of course, they won't make

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your drone 100% safe, so make sure you always follow the Civil

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Aviation Authority's 'Dronecode'. Details of the code come with

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your drone in a leaflet like this. If there is one piece of advice we

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beg you to take on board, it is please, please don't fly your drones

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anywhere near other people. And there's more information

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about drone safety on our website. Now, a very special thank you to

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Oscar's family for getting Watchdog is based

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on your tip-offs and experiences, or go the website and click where

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it says 'send us your stories'. And if you want to comment on any

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of tonight's reports, you can also tweet us or post

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on our Facebook page. And if you think you've come

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across Black Friday deals that aren't all that, contact us using

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the hashtag #blagfriday. Some stories on Rogue Traders are

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complex, requiring me to explain the latest sophisticated scams

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involving new laws and guidelines. Some are really basic,

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preying on instincts we've had Since the dawn of man, we have had

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an innate fascination with a single object. It captivates us. It brings

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out primal instincts. We wish to possess it, even if it is at the

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expense of others. Cut! The problem is that some people will use the

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primal urge we all have to drive and own a car in order to make monkeys

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of us. That's lunch. Yes, the car is the thing. We don't just love them

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because they get us about faster and more conveniently than a horse, but

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because they make our lives easier and sometimes more glamorous too.

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For some people that brings them untold happiness. And tonight that

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someone is Andrew Williams of Williams motor company and that

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somewhere is Cardiff in Wales. Andrew sells, owns and drives a

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number of amazing cars, including this Lamborghini. It is a 250,000

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quid of daft car and he loves it. Which is fine as long as it is all

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the product of honest endeavour, et cetera. The problem starts when your

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business model is making a monkey out of other people. Good to see

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you. Shall we go down here? People a bit like Will Haynes. Andrew

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Williams contacted him in January after he saw he was selling his Audi

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online. He offered to sell it for Will in his showroom and guaranteed

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he would pay him ?11,500 when the deal was done. What did he say about

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payment? He said he would pay as soon as he had agreed a sale and

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taken a deposit. So he would pay me before he sold the car on to the

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next owner. Will told Andrew he bought the car on finance and that

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that debt needed to be cleared when the car was sold on. But that didn't

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happen. Andrew went and sold the car on to somebody else with another

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finance agreement. You really don't want to do that. You're in debt to

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the finance company for what, over ten grand? Yes. And he hasn't paid

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that money to them but he sold the car? Yes So he has sold it for free.

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It feels like he's robbed me. Eight months later, he's only been

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given ?1800, and a cheque, which bounced. Smooth talking Andrew

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always seems to have an excuse. He blamed financial difficulties, the

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loss of a business parter. The latest is that he is refinancing his

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business and awaiting a drawdown. None of these are Will's problems.

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Is it worth giving him a ring and giving him another chance to give

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you your money? Why not. Hello, Williams Motor Company. Great news,

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Andrew tells him the money is on its way. Its imminent. By the end of the

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month. Oh, definitely, definitely. Well, the end of the month came and

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went and Andrew still hasn't settled up. But at least Will assume some

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money, unlike Jessica Martin. She agreed to let Andrew Williams sell

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her car in August 2014. Her contract said she would be paid ?7,200 when

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it was sold, which she needed to do upper house. Eight months went by

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and, despite calling regularly, she was always told there were no buyers

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interested in her car. Until... When I got the letter from the DVLA I was

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initially quite pleased because my first thought was, my car has been

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sold, but that was immediately followed by, hang on, somebody else

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has got my car and nobody has told me and where is my money. Andrew

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Williams said he tried to contact her to let her know about the sale

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and he told her he had done some repair work and he would be paying

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her less money. I have never received any proof that he has and,

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even if he had, I never agreed to it, so I don't understand why he is

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trying to still withhold my money. We are journalists here, not apes.

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We have tracked down the person who bought Jessica's car. It turns out

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Williams only had it for three weeks before selling it for almost nine

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grand last September. Jessica hasn't seen a penny of this money for 14

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months. I don't see how anyone can think this is an acceptable way of

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treating people, and why you would want to run a business that way. It

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sounds like Andrew Williams is taking other people's cars to sell,

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selling them and then holding on to the money. That's just too obvious

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to be true, isn't it? Is that what's happening? Yeah, that's it. We are

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taking this card to Williams Motor Company. We have fitted with a

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tracker so we don't lose it and so we know exactly where it has been.

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Other trackers are available. And here we are. Hi, I'm after Andrew.

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Villa oh, you are the chap with the car. Happy to see us and happy to

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see the Mazda. Yes, Andrew Williams likes other people's cars and other

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People's money, but will he despite everything we've heard, understand

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he has agreed to swap one for the other? You will be amazed when you

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see how far he goes to avoid doing that, in about ten minutes. Still to

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come, the hidden cost of using your phone abroad. Don't get caught out

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like Watchdog fewer Chris Dezille or you could end up with a bill for

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?6,000. First, we are looking at the illegal puppy trade. You will

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remember our Rogue Traders investigation, when we took on puppy

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dealers who had been importing and keeping dogs in appalling

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conditions. You will definitely remember Gizmo, who we saved from a

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dealer. He is much happier now. Since then, we have had an

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incredible response. Plenty of you getting in touch to tell us about

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places you suspect are selling dogs in a dishonest and inhumane way. It

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is barbaric and worryingly it seemed it is growing every year. Some

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viewers may find certain images in this film distressing.

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Puppy farming is the mass commercial production of puppies purely for

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profit but, until you see the results, it's difficult to imagine

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what that means. Dogs born into appalling conditions, separated from

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their mothers too young, not that or court -- cared for properly and all

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too often riddled with infections. We're not talking about a small

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business. It is reckoned that the puppy farming industry is worth ?100

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million per year, and right now there could be tens of thousands of

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dogs ready for import to the UK to sell in time for Christmas. The

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problem is that puppy farmers and dealers don't advertise themselves

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as such, and you could have bought a dog from one without ever really

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realising you've done so. That is exactly what happened to Lisa and

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Roger, who discovered too late that the licensed seller they had bought

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their puppy Billy, from was notorious for sourcing animals from

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puppy farms. When we found out that the leak came from a puppy farm, we

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were shocked because we never ever come if we knew it was from a puppy

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farm, we wouldn't have bought a dog from there. Like many dogs brought

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up in these conditions, Billy suffered continual health problems.

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She never gained weight, she was incontinent and being sick a lot,

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and having fits. On a regular basis. By the time Billy was three and a

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half, the vets said, that is it, she can't take any more. I rang up the

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vet and make an appointment for them to come out and put Billy to sleep.

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I broke down in tears about it. The anger that you get dog knowing that

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these people are doing this just to make money and they don't realise

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the heartbreak they cause to families, really. It is a widespread

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problem. Dozens of you have been in touch to say you think your dog may

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have been bought from a puppy farmer or dealer. That is a big thing to

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admit. It is hard to save you have been duped. But it will make it

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easier when you know how many other people are in the same situation. I

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went to meet the man responsible for tackling this problem. You can't

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underestimate the amount of dogs in this country as a result of this

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trade. One in three. And the cost to the dogs themselves? The dogs are

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removed from their mothers at an early age and they don't get the

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correct start in life. There is disease rife throughout their

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establishment. It is spreading from litter to litter. You get cross

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contamination. The RSPCA's special operations unit recently conducted a

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three-year operation into a dealer trafficking dogs from puppy farms.

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Here he is, being arrested. Inside the premises, we found all these

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puppies in blue plastic buckets. So there are three, four, five puppies

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in each of these blue tops. Yes. All mobile phones are relevant to a

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particular breed of dog, so you will have a Yorkshire terrier phone, a

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Pomeranian phone dog so they know what dog they are talking about.

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Yes, everything is designed to dupe the public into feeling they are

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buying from a legitimate dealer. -- breeder. It is estimated the people

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running these farmed puppies are making ?35,000 in cash every week.

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Those responsible are now behind bars but they will be out in a

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couple of months. Luckily, many of the puppies were rescued and given

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new homes, like this little Pomeranian, named little dude. He

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has a new lease of life with his owner, Emma. Seeing him now, it is

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amazing to think he is as well adjusted as he lives. He still

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freaks at strange noises but at least now I know he is happy and

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safe. It is just great. In the last three years, the RSPCA has rescued

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more than 1000 dogs from being trafficked or kept on puppy farms

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and sold on puppy farms and sold onto of the many aspects of this

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story which is difficult to understand is that it is legal to

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run a copy farm in the UK. You can get a license and that license

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doesn't limit the number of dogs which can be bred in a single

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location. Those dogs can be separated from their mums, in most

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parts of the UK, as soon as they are weaned, which can be as early as

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four weeks old. It is something charities are working to change. In

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September, this MP presented Downing Street with a petition urging the

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government to ban the sale of puppies without the mother present.

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The issue with licensed and legal puppy farms is it shows clearly how

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weak the legislation is. If you can meet the legal requirements while

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still running essentially a kind of battery cage outfit for dogs and

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puppies, it shows how poor the law is. If you start amending

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legislation and making it dog friendly rather than puppy farm

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friendly, you start changing the world for dogs. The RSPCA agrees

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that the law needs to change. The government recently introduced

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legislation around the trade in scrap metal. There are more

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regulations for you to scrap your old French than there are for buying

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a litter of puppies. -- your old fridge. That can't be right.

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I got the chance to answer animal welfare Minister George Eustice some

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chances -- some questions. Thank you for coming in. You have seen that

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film. One thing we couldn't put in because of the time it is going out

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are the pictures of dead puppies. We are also getting a lot of reports

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from families watching puppies die in their living rooms in front of

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them. This is happening on your watch. What are you doing about it?

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We are about to launch a consultation on reviewing the

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licensing system for all animal establishments, including puppy

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breeding establishments, because there are two problems. One is, and

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I suspect those on your programme were illegally imported. It is

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already illegal to bring puppies into this country under 15 weeks

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old. But there are instances where this is happening, so there is an

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enforcement issue. There are examples of backstreet dealers,

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irresponsible people who don't know how to look after puppies and are

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currently outside of the licensing system, so we are looking at ways of

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addressing that, changing the threshold so more people come into

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the accreditation system. You talk about what happened at ports, which

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is administered by trading standards, local authorities.

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Whenever I go to a trading standards department, I see more empty chairs.

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Your government has done that. There have obviously been changes with

:26:19.:26:21.

government finances, and we almost the reasons for that, but I would

:26:22.:26:26.

say that, in this particular area, as in so many others, we are facing

:26:27.:26:30.

a real challenge with the growth of the Internet. That is making it much

:26:31.:26:35.

easier for people to go online and search for puppies. We need

:26:36.:26:38.

consumers to think more carefully about where they are getting their

:26:39.:26:43.

animals from. It is not acceptable to blame consumers when it is so

:26:44.:26:47.

easy to get puppies into this country from overseas. The dog

:26:48.:26:50.

charities are talking about thousands of dogs coming from

:26:51.:26:53.

Hungary, Eastern Europe, also Ireland. If there is nobody to check

:26:54.:26:57.

the ports, they will come in and what happens to them then is on you.

:26:58.:27:02.

There are trading standards people at reports to check and enforce it.

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Not at the weekend. We have had an issue with vets in foreign

:27:11.:27:13.

countries, other European countries, fraudulently issuing paperwork. We

:27:14.:27:17.

have written to other authorities in other countries and there have been

:27:18.:27:21.

prosecutions. We are working hard on this and other countries to make

:27:22.:27:24.

sure the current rules are abided by, cause it is against the law to

:27:25.:27:29.

bring puppies into this country under 15 months old. -- weeks old.

:27:30.:27:36.

The consultation is taking place, so it is a chance to make your feelings

:27:37.:27:40.

clear to George Eustice and the government about how you feel they

:27:41.:27:43.

are handling illegal puppy trading. So make it count.

:27:44.:27:49.

In the meantime, if you are planning to buy a dog, what can you do to

:27:50.:27:52.

make sure you are not supporting the legal puppy farming trade? I went to

:27:53.:27:58.

see Helen Bunter, and approved dog breeder, to find out.

:27:59.:28:07.

Hi, Helen. I've got a lively one. You do! This is mummy? Yes, this is

:28:08.:28:16.

Ella. She is a wire fox terrier. They are gorgeous. Naturally, any

:28:17.:28:21.

person is going to fall in love with these dogs. If I turn up and say, I

:28:22.:28:27.

will take one, how do I know and what sort of things should I be

:28:28.:28:34.

looking out for? What tells me you are a responsible breeder?

:28:35.:28:37.

Responsible breeders at the best welfare of the dog at the heart of

:28:38.:28:42.

everything that they do, so, you know, they're housed in suitable

:28:43.:28:47.

conditions, they are fed well, their vaccinations are up-to-date, they

:28:48.:28:51.

are micro-chipped. I am convinced these puppies are great and I want

:28:52.:28:58.

to one. Do you vex me? Yes, basic things, what's their puppy

:28:59.:29:01.

experience is, have they had a dog or a puppy before? I wouldn't give

:29:02.:29:06.

one of my dogs to somebody who had never been a dog owner before

:29:07.:29:09.

because you need to be quite experienced to have a terrier. You

:29:10.:29:15.

turn them down? Yes, about 40% of people. Gosh, you have to be on your

:29:16.:29:21.

toes when they come to you. Yes, and any owner should expect that from a

:29:22.:29:24.

responsible breeder, because they will want their puppies to go to the

:29:25.:29:32.

best home. Does the mum come and meet the potential owners? The mum

:29:33.:29:35.

is always here, and that is something a potential customer

:29:36.:29:37.

should look for. Mum should always be here.

:29:38.:29:42.

So if you are thinking about buying a puppy, here are some simple rules

:29:43.:29:48.

to help you make sure you're buying from a responsible breeder. Always

:29:49.:29:52.

see the puppy with its mother. Always see the puppy in its natural

:29:53.:29:57.

environment, where it was born. Never buy a puppy younger than 8

:29:58.:30:01.

weeks old. Never buy from someone who offers to deliver the puppy or

:30:02.:30:06.

meet you somewhere, and never buy a puppy because you think you're

:30:07.:30:09.

saving it. You are making room for more dogs and keeping the seller in

:30:10.:30:14.

business. There we go, thank you so much, Chris. I'm very pleased to say

:30:15.:30:21.

we've taken away from the main studio, so it is quieter from him,

:30:22.:30:25.

but he seems so relaxed. When you compared him to the way he was and

:30:26.:30:29.

what he had been through on that farm. It was horrific. The long-term

:30:30.:30:35.

effects of what he had been through and all those other puppies

:30:36.:30:39.

health-wise and behavioural-wise, it is going to be a long journey, but

:30:40.:30:45.

we can clearly see the changes. There's positive changes. He is

:30:46.:30:48.

moving forward. He wouldn't have done this when he first met you. He

:30:49.:30:53.

wouldn't have been relaxed. We rescued him from that place, but he

:30:54.:30:58.

is just one dog and it has taken so much evident from you to get him to

:30:59.:31:02.

this stage really. You think about the number of dogs out there in

:31:03.:31:06.

people's homes who wouldn't have someone like you on hand. And the

:31:07.:31:10.

dogs still out there, still in those businesses. We need to stop. Thank

:31:11.:31:14.

you so much for coming down with Gizmo. It is love live to see him in

:31:15.:31:21.

such good shape. Before he goes, Gizmo would like to give you this.

:31:22.:31:26.

It is a thank you card from Gizmo! Thank you so much Gizmo. It is made

:31:27.:31:32.

by Gizmo. These are his paws. We'll nas on to the rest of the team.

:31:33.:31:38.

Gizmo, thank you for saving me and finding my new mum. You are my

:31:39.:31:44.

heroes. Lots of love, Gizmo. Back to the stain studio. Gizmo, I love you.

:31:45.:31:49.

You're the best. He is very artistic that dog! Well done, Matt. A great

:31:50.:31:54.

result there. We've had plenty of e-mails about poor old Oscar who was

:31:55.:32:00.

involved in that drone accident. Laura on Twitter can't believe Oscar

:32:01.:32:04.

was involved. Can't imagine the pain his mum is in. Katie says she is

:32:05.:32:09.

devastated about the loss, that poor boy. Drones are not toys, they can

:32:10.:32:15.

be very dangerous. Linda on Twitter says, such a horrific story. Can't

:32:16.:32:20.

understand the delay in drone legislation. Coming up: We are

:32:21.:32:27.

calling it "Blag Friday". Tomorrow's deals that aren't as real as they

:32:28.:32:36.

might feel. We are asking Andrew Williams of Williams Motor Company

:32:37.:32:39.

in Cardiff to sell our Mazda for us and then hand over the money. The

:32:40.:32:44.

records show that he tends to do the first bit then forgets about the

:32:45.:32:48.

all-important second bit. But surely if he signs a contract with us to

:32:49.:32:54.

hand over the cash for the Mazda, then he has to. Cardiff and we are

:32:55.:33:05.

inside Andrew Williams's HQ. Very smiley. It is clear he's a great

:33:06.:33:08.

lover of cars. We are here to sell our Mazda so

:33:09.:33:31.

Andrew takes a look and spots a couple of issues.

:33:32.:33:43.

But these tiny issues don't put him off. After a quick test drive he

:33:44.:33:47.

likes it. So ?400 worth of cosmetic repairs

:33:48.:34:16.

and he'll sell our car for us and hand over... That's ?2,850 to sell

:34:17.:34:25.

our car and we get paid straight away.

:34:26.:34:37.

That's pretty straightforward then, the car gets sold and straight away

:34:38.:34:45.

we receive our ?2,850 quid. Once we get a buyer. Yeah, that's a problem.

:34:46.:34:49.

You see the thing is, we've got to get this whole thing wrapped up by

:34:50.:34:56.

Part 3, in about 20 minutes. Hm. We could buy the car ourselves? Hold

:34:57.:35:03.

on, I've had a better idea. We could buy the car ourselves. That's right.

:35:04.:35:09.

Team members Debs and Calum are going to buy our own car back the

:35:10.:35:14.

they next day. That way we'll know that Andrew Williams has got our

:35:15.:35:16.

money. But it is a lovely day. That's why

:35:17.:35:26.

he's driven his baby blue full-size Lambo in. But you are not here to

:35:27.:35:35.

buy that one, Debs. What will Andrew tell us about the car?

:35:36.:35:55.

?4,995? That's over two grand profit in 24 hours.

:35:56.:36:16.

Now, Andrew told us before that he needed to do ?400 worth of repairs.

:36:17.:36:28.

Did he get it done? So you're not doing anything,

:36:29.:36:41.

nothing at all? Hold on, it's just gone up a fiver!

:36:42.:37:01.

For Andrew's favourite subject... Yes, small talk over, it's time to

:37:02.:37:28.

close the deal. We don't like handing over this sort

:37:29.:37:44.

of cash to someone we suspect to be playing the great British public

:37:45.:37:48.

lick a were you itser organ but it is the only way to find out what's

:37:49.:37:52.

going on. And we fully intend to get it back. Is the

:37:53.:37:57.

going on. And we fully intend to get it back. Is -- Wurlitzer. Our car is

:37:58.:38:03.

back to where it belongs, Chez rogue traders. All we have to do is wait

:38:04.:38:07.

for Andrew Williams to give us a call to say hey, I've got your cash,

:38:08.:38:13.

come and collect it. You know, I've never been a car man but there's

:38:14.:38:18.

something about this Mazda... The first day passes. So does the

:38:19.:38:22.

following week and still no word from Andrew Williams to say our car

:38:23.:38:24.

has been told. From from Andrew Williams to say our car

:38:25.:38:30.

has been told. -- sold. After ten days we send Andrew a text. The

:38:31.:38:34.

apparently the car's been painted and he has a friend whose wife might

:38:35.:38:40.

be interested. After 15 days we call him. His friend is still interested

:38:41.:38:43.

and he's done some repair work. What other company? Remember, we

:38:44.:39:05.

fitted the car with a tracker and it never left the lot. After four weeks

:39:06.:39:10.

we call again. This time business is quiet. He reen tried to drop the

:39:11.:39:21.

price. So, where do we go now? Hm. I'm starting to get the feeling

:39:22.:39:24.

there might be something missing from this episode of rogue traders.

:39:25.:39:30.

The experts? Yes, but you don't really need a professional

:39:31.:39:33.

qualification to spot that what Andrew Williams is doing is wrong.

:39:34.:39:40.

That's why this week's expert is... Class lilac.

:39:41.:39:45.

CHEERING. That's right. We think it is so obvious that what Andrew

:39:46.:39:49.

Williams is doing is wrong we've left it up to these nine-year-olds

:39:50.:39:54.

to give us their expert opinion. It makes me feel like he's a little

:39:55.:39:58.

greedy, he always wants to take things for himself. And selfish.

:39:59.:40:02.

Yes, he is spending other people's money on himself. And not actually

:40:03.:40:08.

being a proper businessman. He'll just be like, where's my money? When

:40:09.:40:13.

am I ever going to get it? I don't think it's a very good thing to do

:40:14.:40:17.

to other people. You should definitely stop it and pay all the

:40:18.:40:23.

people back. Class lilac, I couldn't agree more. In fact even Gizmo can

:40:24.:40:29.

see that what Andrew Williams is doing just won't stand. And yet for

:40:30.:40:34.

some reason he can't. Well, Andy Williams, you are about to get a

:40:35.:40:38.

wake-up call from your impossible dream in about ten. Now, tomorrow is

:40:39.:40:45.

Black Friday an American shopping phenomenon. It is a one-day

:40:46.:40:51.

supersail with supposedly unbeatable deals. Last year there were shocking

:40:52.:40:55.

scenes as shoppers fought to get their hands on bargains. I can't

:40:56.:40:59.

believe this but tomorrow we are expected to spend around ?2 billion,

:41:00.:41:04.

but not all of them are deals will be anywhere near as good as they

:41:05.:41:09.

seem, so we are calling it "Blag Friday", meaning to get something by

:41:10.:41:12.

persuasion or guile. In this case it is the shops getting your money.

:41:13.:41:18.

Last year some of you told us you were very suspicious about some of

:41:19.:41:23.

Currys PC World deals, so we decided to monitor their prices for the last

:41:24.:41:27.

three months to see if you are really get being unbeatable deal

:41:28.:41:32.

this is their Black Tag Event. First up this Miele vacuum cleaner on

:41:33.:41:38.

offer for ?139.99. An apparent saving of ?190. Really? You only get

:41:39.:41:44.

that saving if you compare it to the price back in August. However, last

:41:45.:41:51.

week before the big Black Tag Event the same vacuum was ?149.99, a ?10

:41:52.:41:59.

saving, not ?199. Next, this Hotpoint fridge is on sale at

:42:00.:42:05.

?299.99 with the reduction of ?200. But what if I told you that on 6th

:42:06.:42:11.

January this year, it was on sale at the even lower price of ?269? So

:42:12.:42:16.

cheaper than the Black Friday event price. Maybe I will wait for the

:42:17.:42:23.

January sales. And finally, the Beko electric cooker, on for ?299, a

:42:24.:42:31.

saving of ?250, but in September it only cost ?399.99. That's a saving

:42:32.:42:39.

of ?100. The price only went up to ?549.99 for the 19 days before the

:42:40.:42:47.

Black Tag Event. Funny that. It is funny. Currys PC World told us that

:42:48.:42:51.

they are very clear in their sales price advertising and at the said

:42:52.:42:55.

the deals on all three items are great value for customers. It says

:42:56.:43:02.

it has over 3,000 products in its Black Tag Event and 90% are at the

:43:03.:43:07.

best ever price. If you have spotted a deal from any shop that's not as

:43:08.:43:12.

good as it seems, let us know using the hash tag "Blag Friday". Next,

:43:13.:43:16.

another example of something that seems like a good deal but with

:43:17.:43:20.

catch you out and cost you thousands. Vodafone and their

:43:21.:43:24.

packages for using your mobile phone abroad.

:43:25.:43:29.

In days gone by, taking your phone abroad had the potential to ruin

:43:30.:43:37.

your holiday. That's because of something called data roaming. It's

:43:38.:43:41.

when your phone uses expensive for networks to download things like

:43:42.:43:48.

photos, e-mail and software updates. Your phone can do this

:43:49.:43:52.

automatically without you knowing so holiday-makers often came home to

:43:53.:43:58.

huge bills. Five years ago, European union decided enough was enough. It

:43:59.:44:03.

told mobile phone network providers to cut data roaming charges and

:44:04.:44:09.

introduce a cap. As a result, European citizens shouldn't be

:44:10.:44:12.

allowed to use any more than 50 euros of data a month unless they

:44:13.:44:15.

specifically opt out of the regulation. And it's not just

:44:16.:44:21.

Europe. The cat now applies wherever you travel in the world. Vodafone

:44:22.:44:28.

set its monthly limit at ?36 39. Once we have used that amount of

:44:29.:44:34.

data, your phone should stop you accessing the Internet. Great, I got

:44:35.:44:38.

my phone and my pay monthly Vodafone contract. Time for a worry free mini

:44:39.:44:46.

break. Fantastic. Except it might not be worry free because lots of

:44:47.:44:51.

you got in touch to tell us Vodafone is still ruining your holidays. And

:44:52.:44:59.

here is the first problem. Vodafone's your road traveller deal.

:45:00.:45:03.

For a few pounds a day, you can take your regular bundle with you on

:45:04.:45:07.

holiday but go over your allowance and you will be charged at the much

:45:08.:45:12.

more expensive standard UK rate. What about the cap restricting the

:45:13.:45:17.

amount of data you use? When you sign up to this, you automatically

:45:18.:45:21.

opt out of that, which means huge bills without realising it. Take

:45:22.:45:29.

under Oliver, who went on a family holiday to ten array. When she

:45:30.:45:33.

signed up to Vodafone's your road traveller deal, she wasn't told that

:45:34.:45:37.

meant she was opting out of the cost cap. It was hidden in the terms and

:45:38.:45:44.

conditions so I had no idea. I thought I was protecting myself by

:45:45.:45:47.

taking out your road traveller but in fact I was signing my rights

:45:48.:45:55.

away. When Amanda's 's son used all her free data by playing online

:45:56.:46:00.

games, Vodafone began challenging her the standard UK rate. She says

:46:01.:46:04.

it didn't warn her she had reached her UK allowance but simply sent her

:46:05.:46:13.

two bills, one for ?116 and another for ?267. When I spoke to the call

:46:14.:46:17.

centre she said they sent warnings but they don't get through when you

:46:18.:46:22.

are abroad, which isn't much use. I was horrified because I couldn't

:46:23.:46:26.

understand why we had to pay so much when we took out the policy. So it's

:46:27.:46:33.

possible to spend a few hundred pounds on Vodafone 's deal if you go

:46:34.:46:38.

over your UK allowance but there must be some sort of system in place

:46:39.:46:41.

to stop you spending thousands of pounds without knowing it. That

:46:42.:46:44.

would really ruin your holiday. Really? Yeah, Vodafone customers who

:46:45.:46:54.

go to countries not covered by its Eurotraveller or world travel deals

:46:55.:46:57.

need to be very careful. That is anywhere in light green, by the way.

:46:58.:47:03.

Just ask Chris, who ended up with an eye watering bill during a holiday

:47:04.:47:08.

to Tunisia. The phones started beeping frenetically and there were

:47:09.:47:13.

a couple of texts from Vodafone about data usage. The fourth text

:47:14.:47:17.

said that the account was suspended and I had to phone immediately to

:47:18.:47:23.

speak to them. Chris had simply left his phone on in the hotel room. He

:47:24.:47:28.

didn't download any photos or videos but it must have been using data

:47:29.:47:32.

somehow without him knowing, because he ended up with a bill for over

:47:33.:47:38.

?6,000, a staggering sum he was forced to pay. To suddenly be told

:47:39.:47:44.

such an astronomical amount was baffling. Of course, it absolutely

:47:45.:47:49.

ruined the holiday from that moment on. Because Vodafone doesn't offer

:47:50.:47:55.

special deals in Tunisia, it charged Chris the full international rate,

:47:56.:47:59.

but what about the cost cap? Vodafone told Chris he opted out in

:48:00.:48:04.

2010, which he disputes. And Vodafone had nothing else in place

:48:05.:48:09.

to protect Chris from wrapping up a huge bill. I don't understand why

:48:10.:48:15.

there are not more safeguards to protect consumers. Vodafone's main

:48:16.:48:20.

rivals do put safeguards in place even for customers who have signed

:48:21.:48:26.

up to special deals. For example, when EE customers go over the limit

:48:27.:48:30.

the company dramatically slows down the speed of their Internet access

:48:31.:48:35.

while O2 cat extra spending to ?43 in Europe and ?40 elsewhere. But

:48:36.:48:41.

should Vodafone customers who go abroad be wary of something else?

:48:42.:48:45.

Vodafone wouldn't charge them international rates when they get

:48:46.:48:48.

back home, would they? Surely they can't ruin your holiday back in

:48:49.:48:56.

Blighty. Oh, come on! Yeah, some Vodafone customers told us they have

:48:57.:49:00.

been hit with international charges after landing back at home. Among

:49:01.:49:05.

them, Tristram from Leeds who got a nasty shock when he got back from a

:49:06.:49:09.

skiing holiday in Switzerland. Time to chat. Tristram, talk me through

:49:10.:49:15.

what happened. I found a data roaming charge for almost ?100 on my

:49:16.:49:20.

phone bill, which I thought was odd because I had had data roaming

:49:21.:49:26.

turned off the whole time. It was odd. Tristram's boarding pass shows

:49:27.:49:32.

he left Geneva at 2:20pm. After landing, is Vodafone bill shows he

:49:33.:49:36.

sent a picture message from the UK at 3:24pm but, 20 minutes later,

:49:37.:49:42.

Vodafone charged him for using data in Switzerland. Initially, the

:49:43.:49:45.

company didn't accept it made a mistake. So, even though you had

:49:46.:49:50.

proof, they still thought you were lying. As far as they were

:49:51.:49:53.

concerned, their systems were infallible and I am capable of the

:49:54.:50:01.

tasks of Superman. In the end, Tristram got his money back as a

:50:02.:50:06.

goodwill gesture. Thanks to new legislation, data roaming charges

:50:07.:50:09.

are being scrapped, at least in Europe. In two years' time, using

:50:10.:50:14.

your phone on the continent will cost the same as it does at home

:50:15.:50:18.

but, in the meantime, Vodafone seems to be doing its best to spoil

:50:19.:50:23.

customers' holidays. I think I need to brush up on my cycling. Vodafone

:50:24.:50:29.

told us customers only go over data limits when abroad if they

:50:30.:50:33.

specifically opt out of the cap and go back onto their UK plans. The

:50:34.:50:37.

company said it once people when they are nearing their limit.

:50:38.:50:42.

Vodafone insists they texting Amanda but she exceeded allowance so she

:50:43.:50:47.

was charged. They say, although they are sorry Chris feels he was dealt

:50:48.:50:52.

with unfairly, it stands with their decision upheld by the ombudsman. It

:50:53.:50:55.

has not properly apologised to Tristram for billing him incorrectly

:50:56.:51:01.

and they have issued a full refund. Another warning on how using your

:51:02.:51:08.

phone abroad can cost you. Watchdog viewer Madeleine Fear has been in

:51:09.:51:13.

touch. She was charged ?489 for using her mobile on a Mediterranean

:51:14.:51:18.

cruise. She had signed up to a bundle which was supposed to cap her

:51:19.:51:22.

charges so she was really shocked with the bill. Although she was in

:51:23.:51:30.

Europe, she wasn't In Europe. When you are travelling by boat, your

:51:31.:51:35.

phone can automatically connect to the Maritime satellite network. That

:51:36.:51:41.

isn't included in the European bundles and is charged at top rate.

:51:42.:51:46.

It can charge up to ?300 to make a call. If you are travelling by boat

:51:47.:51:53.

and want to avoid extra charges, switch your phone to aeroplane mode.

:51:54.:51:58.

On a boat in aeroplane mode was to mark it makes sense! Andrew million

:51:59.:52:05.

-- Andrew Williams is the director of Williams Motor Company in

:52:06.:52:09.

Cardiff, who will lead you more broken than before, selling your car

:52:10.:52:13.

and failing to pass on the proceeds. He has done that to us but on this

:52:14.:52:17.

occasion there is a slight flaw in his plans because it works on the

:52:18.:52:21.

basis that the buyer and the seller never meet.

:52:22.:52:33.

Can you see where we are going with this? I mean, let's say, for

:52:34.:52:40.

instance, that the buyer of the car and the seller of the car turned up

:52:41.:52:45.

at the same time. How embarrassing would that be? And then imagine if

:52:46.:52:52.

we turned up shortly afterwards. That was just be awful, all

:52:53.:52:57.

brilliant. Hi, Andrew. How are you doing? You sold my car? Have you

:52:58.:53:00.

sold my car? Is this my car? Not ours? Are you sure? Is somebody

:53:01.:53:09.

taking it for a test drive? No, although she does work for Rogue

:53:10.:53:23.

Traders. Isn't it awkward when the person who

:53:24.:54:20.

has given you the car to sell me to sell meet the person who bought it

:54:21.:54:24.

and, as a result, you haven't handed that money over yet. That is money

:54:25.:54:29.

that you said you were going to pay straightaway under contract. You

:54:30.:54:33.

failed to do that. Lovely Mercedes. That will be about 80 grand's worth.

:54:34.:54:38.

You are doing this systematically to people. You are taking money for

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their cars. That is what you are doing. You have done it to us and we

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have heard about other people you are doing it too, as well. That is

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how you finance things like this, a silly blue car with doors which go

:54:51.:54:55.

up. You have managed to pay for this kind of lifestyle by taking money

:54:56.:54:59.

from people and withholding it when you have sold their cars already.

:55:00.:55:03.

That is what we have seen. You take their money, take their cars but you

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don't hand over the money. You withhold the money. That is what we

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have seen, Andrew. You have lied to us systematically about what has

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happened to the car. You tried to do it again today. You tried again

:55:17.:55:23.

today by saying that there was a bit of paperwork. But in fact you said

:55:24.:55:26.

it was having work done on it all that time but in fact it wasn't, was

:55:27.:55:31.

it? You've got an incredible collection here. No Lamborghini

:55:32.:55:36.

today? Decided not to take it in? Where are we going? We are going

:55:37.:55:39.

backwards and forwards. The truth is, Andrew, you can't answer these

:55:40.:55:45.

questions, can you? You can't explain the actions that we've seen.

:55:46.:55:48.

Don't shut the door in my face. We've been backwards and forwards on

:55:49.:55:54.

this. And you've failed to give us any answers. You have lied to us

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about what has happened to our car and that is how you are financing

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all of this. That is the way it is working. Can you get out of the

:56:04.:56:07.

showroom. Can you leave the show room please. Sale? We have left the

:56:08.:56:13.

showroom. But a lot of our team is still inside. Gentlemen, if you

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could come down and leave the show room. Andrew Williams of Andrews

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will motor company. It's to show, however fast your car is, if you are

:56:26.:56:31.

lying to people about their money, eventually it will catch up with

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you. Andrew Williams says he has been in business for 25 years and he

:56:37.:56:40.

has always paid his suppliers however, due to an unfavourable

:56:41.:56:45.

commercial loan, the business as short-term cash flow problems which

:56:46.:56:49.

delays some payments. He is sorry to those to whom he owed money but he

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has paid back everybody featured in the programme, including our ?5,000.

:56:54.:56:59.

Unfortunately, too little, too late to keep you, Andrew, from ending up

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on our rogues gallery. Lots of you getting in touch about the dangers

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of drones. A viewer said, our nephew was hit in the stomach and had to go

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to hospital. There should be a licence. Koko on Twitter said that

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the story has made her reconsider her purchase. Keep sending us your

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stories and tip-offs. Go to the website. You can also write to us.

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Next week on Watchdog, planning to buy your Christmas presents at

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Argos? Our investigation reveals how their fast track service is as slow

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as Santa in a 100 metres sprint. Nikki Fox investigates why going out

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isn't all inspired and mulled wine. People. And we put on a Christmas

:57:44.:57:51.

panto with Sheila Hancock as she takes on unfair insurance renewal

:57:52.:57:55.

prices. That is next week at 8pm. Until then, from all of us, good

:57:56.:57:57.

night. Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley with

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your 90 second update. Bombing so-called Islamic State

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in Syria will make us safer. That's what David Cameron

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told Parliament today.

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