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I'm Michelle Ackerley. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
My parents both grew up on council estates | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
and as a family, we understand the difference | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
social housing can make to people's lives. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
But across the UK, there's a chronic shortage of council | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
and housing association homes. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
I know so many friends and so many people that just literally | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
don't have anywhere to live. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
Adding to the crisis, some tenants are abusing the system, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
holding on to properties they no longer need or even worse, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
unlawfully subletting them and coining in a small fortune. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:38 | |
Subletting social housing is wrong, it's wrong, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
it's illegal and it's wrong. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
So, every day we'll be with the housing investigators | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
as they crack down on those rogue tenants... | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
County court bailiffs! | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
..reclaim properties... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Anybody in? | 0:00:53 | 0:00:54 | |
..and give them to families in genuine need. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
All of those keys are yours. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Oh. Don't, cos you'll start me off again. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
This is Council House Crackdown. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
Our reporter, property expert Luke Doonan, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
also grew up on a council estate. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
And for the last six months, he's been working | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
alongside dedicated housing investigators | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
who will stop at nothing to track down every single tenant | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
who's abusing the system. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Today, we discover an ex-pop star forging documents | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
in a tenancy fraud spanning nearly 20 years. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
The occupant has been arrested, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
he's about to be brought down and taken off to a police station. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
We find out just how intense cracking down on suspected | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
cheats can get. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
Yeah. Where did you...? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:48 | |
I would like to have a look around the flat. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
And we catch up with a tenant who claims he's living | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
in his council house in Reading, when he's actually in Greece. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
You wouldn't put your status as, "Living in Greece," | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
unless you were living in Greece. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
-That's pretty blatant, isn't it? -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
England is home to eight million social housing properties. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
A staggering 20% of these tenancies are thought to be fraudulent. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
Meanwhile, there are 1.8 million families on the waiting list. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
From technology to tip-offs, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
housing investigators have many weapons with which to tackle tenancy | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
fraud, but sometimes the most effective is a surprise door knock. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
Our first case is an unlawful sublet. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
The couple who should be living here have been subletting for nine years | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
to their nephew, whilst they've been in Portugal. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
6am, Battersea, South London, the Springfield estate. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
Ben Marshall and Alan Emmerson are housing investigators | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
from Lambeth Council. | 0:02:58 | 0:02:59 | |
They've received a tip-off that two of the properties | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
on the estate may be being unlawfully sublet. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
So, they're heading out before dawn to see if they | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
can catch people at home. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
Morning. Lambeth Council. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
No light on. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
No, but I think that is his BMW downstairs. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
Ben's informer also mentioned the car. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
Good morning. From the council. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Good morning, sir. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
I'm doing a tenancy audit, I'm after Maria or Jose. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
Who are you, please? | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
The man who comes to the door is not the legal tenant. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
But he agrees to talk to the two investigators. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
Ben and Alan are invited inside. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
OK, thank you. Cheers. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
But our cameras are not allowed in. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
The legal tenants of the property are a middle-aged couple | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
originally from Portugal. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
The person who answers the door is a young man in his 20s. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
He tells the investigators he's the nephew of the tenants | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
and he's paying the rent. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
But he also reveals that he has someone else there paying HIM rent. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
I'll write to you and we'll take it from there. OK? Cheers, mate. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
So, it seems the official tenants have been gone for a full | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
nine years without ever telling the council. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
Nine years in which someone on the housing waiting list could | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
have been in the home. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:37 | |
We've been into the property, the tenants went abroad nine | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
years ago and that's what the guys told us as well. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
He knew the game was up. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
He was pretty much saying, "Yeah, I know there was a situation, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
"I knew something like this would happen at some point and, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
"yeah, it's true, it's fair enough. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
"My uncle's been gone for, I think, nine years, pretty much." | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
Pretty safe to say we'll get the property back, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
How many families, over those nine years, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
could've been housed in that pretty nice flat? | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
It's pretty wrong. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
Three weeks later, Luke goes to see Ben, to see | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
if there's been any developments on this case. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
So, Ben, tell me what evidence you have on this one. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
Well, we looked into the guy that was in the property. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
The tenants are long gone, they've been gone for nine years, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
but he's the legitimate nephew of them | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
and, so, they've left him to use the property. No-one's told us. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Right, so, basically, the original tenant has left, gone elsewhere | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
and effectively handed over or given the property to their nephew? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Absolutely. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:40 | |
And he's a younger guy, so I did a bit of looking into him | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-and I found out that he's a managing director of his own company. -Really? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
What kind of company? Have you got anything you could show me? | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Yeah, well, this is a support services company | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
and one of the things that they do is they do, for example, | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
cleaning of pre-tenancies and around the housing market | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
and cleaning of communal areas and bits and pieces. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
You know, loosely based in, certainly, social housing. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
The other thing is, so, he's paying the much reduced, you know, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
rent of sort of £450 a month or so. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
When obviously, if he was in the private sector, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
it would be 1,300 at least, I would have thought. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
But the thing that makes it even worse, actually, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
is that it's a two-bed property. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
He was in one of the rooms, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
but he was subletting the other bedroom throughout as well. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-Oh, wow. -Throughout these nine years as well, so... | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
I don't know how much money he's made from that, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
but it'll be very significant. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
We know a bit about the nephew, who's been living in the property. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
Where are the original tenants, do you know? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
Well, they are Portuguese and the long and short of it is that, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
nine years ago, they went back to Portugal to live in Portugal. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
They've got their own home in Portugal | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
and that's simply where they are. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
They decided then to give the property, effectively, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
to their nephew here, cos he was still in London. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
They don't have the right to do that, do they? | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
Absolutely not, no. They simply needed to tell the council | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
that they were leaving, we'd have got the council property back | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
nine years ago, we'd have turned it round very quickly | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
and, as I say, some homeless family wouldn't be homeless. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
We're in a very wealthy country. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Nobody in this country should be living without a roof | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
over their head. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
I think the social housing system is very valuable | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and it's clearly under tremendous pressure | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
and we've seen a lot of examples of that recently. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
And, yeah, I think it's central to the future of London | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
that we have a healthy social housing sector. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I'm an ex-council tenant, I'm now a home owner. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
But it was a really good thing to be able to get into, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
for the simple fact, like you said, it was a stepping stone. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
I couldn't afford to go and privately rent, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
I couldn't afford to buy anything, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
but I was lucky enough to get a council flat. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
So, I used it as a stepping stone and, obviously, | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I'm now a homeowner. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
I still live with my parents. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Cos I can't afford to move out, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
but I'm grateful and thankful that I have a roof over my head. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
In 2013, the Prevention Of Social Housing Fraud Act | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
came into force, making the unauthorised subletting of council | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
properties by the official tenant a criminal offence. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
People who are unknowingly renting from the official tenant | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
would not normally be prosecuted, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
but if the subtenant | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
does know and is in on it, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
they could be charged | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
under the Fraud Act. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:32 | |
The next case is an extraordinary story of an ex-pop star | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
who assumed someone's identity | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
in order to stay in a council property | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
that he wasn't entitled to. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
The lead investigator on this story is Mike Frost. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
In the last six years, he's reclaimed 519 social housing | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
homes from people who were misusing them. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
Today, Luke joins him as he hopes to make it 520. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
Mike's been uncovering one of the most extraordinary cases | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
he's ever come across. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
They're on their way to Stockwell, in South London, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
to raid on a council property which has been unlawfully sublet | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
for nearly 20 years. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
We're investigating a case that the fraud's gone back | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
roughly 20 years. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
Wow, I mean, 20 years is, obviously, a massive amount of time. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
# Beautiful Sunday... # | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
The person who's been renting it is an ex-pop star. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
# My beautiful day... # | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
This is him on a German TV show in 1972. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
His stage name was Daniel Boone. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
But his real name is Peter Green. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
# My, my, it's a beautiful day. # | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
The story starts in 1995 when a man called Frank Zourab | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
moved into a lovely Victorian council property in Albert Square. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
Not that one, this one's in Lambeth. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
But two years ago, when a housing officer made a routine visit | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
to the property and was refused access, alarm bells started ringing. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Mike began an investigation. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
He quickly discovered that the man paying the utility bills | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
was a Peter Green. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
So, where was the official tenant - Frank Zourab? | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Mike's team went back to the address to find out exactly who was | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
living in their property. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
The man who answered the door said he was Frank Zourab. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
He actually opened the door for us straightaway. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
He was very amenable. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
But he was quite adamant that he was Frank Zourab. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
To prove it, he showed Mike a Freedom bus pass | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
with a photo ID in the name of Frank Zourab. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
But Mike wasn't convinced he was actually the legal tenant, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
so he asked him some more questions. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
We asked him what his date of birth was | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
and he gave us the wrong date of birth for our tenant. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
I didn't believe that he was Frank Zourab from that moment. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
So, the investigations team dug deeper. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
They checked with the police and with the border agencies | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
and discovered Frank Zourab had left the country in 1996. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:17 | |
The man who was actually residing at the flat was ex-pop star | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Peter Green. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
He was about to face some tough questions. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
I said to him, well, we're going to do an audit, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
he has to sign and confirm details and also we'd take | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
a statement from him and if he lied in that statement, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
that would be considered fraud | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
and that's when he held his hands up. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
He had used his photo with Frank Zourab's name | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
on official documents that he used as ID in order to | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
live in a property he wasn't entitled to. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
Now, Mike's about to join police officers | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
and a bailiff at the property. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
He's obviously used the property, misused it for 20 years | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
in our tenant's name. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-That's a massive amount of time, isn't it? -It's huge, yeah. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
Mike's priority today is to make sure that any evidence at the flat | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
is collected and preserved | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
and that Peter Green is arrested and taken in for questioning. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
-Hello, Peter. -Come in, I'll put on me dressing gown. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
The police explain to Peter Green the reason for his arrest. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
-OFFICER: -Sir, it's Brixton police. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Over the last couple of years or more than a couple of years, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
you've had in your possession false identity documents | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
with improper intention of using them, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
i.e. someone else's identity with your face on certain documents, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
official documents. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:50 | |
For that reason, you're going to be arrested today | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
-and taken to Brixton Police Station, OK? -Oh. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
The man who Mike believes has been pretending | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
to be the official tenant for 20 years | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
has been told to get dressed, while Mike and the police | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
search the house for evidence. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
So, Mike, what's happening at the moment? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Basically, we're just going to have to do a search of the property | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
to gather some of the evidence that we've seen previously. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
-He has said to us that he's thrown a lot of it away already. -OK. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
He admitted to doing that. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
But I know that some of the documents used to be in his room, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
so once the policemen have finished dealing with him there, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
we'll search his room after we've searched the rest of the property. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
OK, what kind of things are you looking for? | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Just looking for the false IDs, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
looking for any potential tenancy agreement. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Any links where I can see an association between himself | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
and our tenant. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
He knows our tenant, he's known him, apparently as friends, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
he communicates with him and sends him Christmas cards. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
He has their telephone numbers and their addresses, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
so, we'll be looking for an address book as well | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
with telephone numbers as well. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
-There could be a lot of information you could find here. -Yeah. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
It seems there's more paperwork in the bedroom. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
And just to clarify, the gentleman here | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
that's just been arrested has been, effectively, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
pretending to be the original tenant for how long now? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
Er...over 20 years. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
-Right. Massive amount of time. -Yeah, it's huge. It's huge. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
A council tax bill only strengthens the case against him. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
The name of the real tenant is Frank Zourab | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
and this council tax bill is in the name of Peter Green, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
which is where he's changed it. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
Chopped and changed it from Peter Green to Zourab and back. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
OK. When he thought he'd been rumbled, as it were, | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-he changed it back into the tenant's name. -To the tenant's name. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
-That's correct, yeah. -OK. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
With Mike's investigations complete, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
it won't be long before the property is repossessed. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
The occupant has been arrested | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
and I believe he's about to be brought down | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
and taken off to a police station. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Mike and his team are going to stay upstairs to try and find | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
some more evidence. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:04 | |
After 19 years of living there, there's a lot of paperwork up there. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
So, Mike, what happens next? | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
From here we go to the police station, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
where we'll conduct a PACE interview. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
Gives him an opportunity to put his side of the story in, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
obviously, hopefully clear the matter up for us. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
Hopefully we'll garner some details of our tenant, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
make contact with our tenant, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
cos that's the next most important step. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
We'll contact our tenant and hopefully get this property | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
back into circulation. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
The police questioned Peter Green | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
and the housing association got the property back. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
The flat has now been re-let to someone | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
from the housing waiting list. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
I think it is good if councils do investigate | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
and, as I said, I think the deeper problem | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
needs to be addressed as well. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
But, certainly, in the short term, yes, I'm in favour of councils | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
making sure that what limited supply there is | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
is going to people who need it the most. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I think it's just such a shame that, if there is a system there, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
for it to be abused. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
I think we've probably got to look at the reasons why | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
people are doing that and also how it's allowed to happen. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Because, obviously, all of those people who are kind of abusing | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
the system have more than their fair share, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
there's people who have absolutely nothing. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
I mean, it's been so cold recently | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
and the number of people who are homeless on the streets | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
is just heartbreaking. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
It's not fair, is it? Other people could have that flat. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
But it's happening a lot, actually, yeah. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
There are other ways tenants | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
can illegally use their council properties. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
A 31-year-old Birmingham man conned home seekers | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
out of £2,000 worth of deposits | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
when he advertised his council flat using a classified ad site online. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
The same man had previously been sentenced | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
to two years in prison for defrauding women | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
he met on dating websites. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
His council flat advert tricked a single mother of two | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
and a trainee chef out of several hundred pounds each. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
He was sentenced to two years | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
and eight months in jail. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Investigators Ben Marshall and Alan Emmerson | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
from Lambeth Council | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
are making unannounced visits to the Springfield housing estate | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
in South London. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
Working on information received, they're following up on | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
properties they think might be unlawfully sublet. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
They've received a tip-off from the police that the people | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
living at this next flat are not the official tenants. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
-Hello. -Hello, good morning. From the council. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
-Good morning. -Morning. -Morning, -BLEEP. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
My name's Mr Marshall, from the council, my colleague. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
We're doing a tenancy audit of the property, of the block. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
I should also say we're being followed by the BBC at the moment, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
so, they're filming at the moment. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Is at all right for us all to come in? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
All right, we've got two ladies as well. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Thank you. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
The lawful tenants of this flat are a middle-aged couple. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
How long have you been living here? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-So, you don't live here? -No. -Where do you live then? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-At -BLEEP, -97 -BLEEP. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Southwark, is it? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
You're here now. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
But you don't live here, OK. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
My information is that you do live here. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
So that's one thing I would say. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
-Who's your uncle? -BLEEP. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
The man is claiming that he's looking after the flat | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
for his uncle. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
Did you sleep here last night? | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Right, OK. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
Yeah. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
-So, where is -BLEEP -now? | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Apart from you, who else stays here? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
OK, if you don't stay here, who does stay here? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Anyone else? | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
And they live here, do they? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
-No, that's fine. -If you don't know, you can just tell us you don't know. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
We're just trying to establish who might be at the property. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
We've come here this morning looking for the tenant. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
-Yeah. -Where did you stay last night? | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
Yeah, well, I can...speak to him. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
I would like to have a look round the flat. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
The man refuses to answer any more questions and he tells Ben and Alan | 0:20:02 | 0:20:07 | |
he wants them to leave, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
so that he can get back to sleep. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
No worries. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Ben and Alan are heading back to the office | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
to dig deeper into exactly | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
who's been using this property and for how long. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
Two months later, an enquiry's still ongoing. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
A series of credit checks have been carried out | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
revealing that eight different people | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
have been financially associated with the property in recent years. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
Ben and Alan believe the lawful tenant is no longer living there | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
and are preparing to start the formal process | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
to get the property back. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
Subletting is obviously wrong and should be cracked down hard. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
I think people who illegally sublet their council accommodation | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
should know that they're breaking the law, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
whether morally or criminally. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I think they deserve to be punished as criminals | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and in my view they should lose their property | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
and pay back all the money they've made. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
Well, I suppose they're subletting it to people | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
that still need housing, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
so, that is I suppose right, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
but they shouldn't use it for their own income. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
The people doing the illegal subletting | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
are doing it fraudulently, they won't pay tax. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
So, that tax isn't going into providing more housing, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
so everybody is a loser from what's happening. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
Ah, Greece. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
Sunshine, blue skies, picture-postcard scenery. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
It's no wonder so many of us Brits visit every year. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
One council tenant liked it so much, he decided to move here. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Nothing wrong with that until you know he's supposed to be living | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
in a social housing property near Reading. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
The tenant concerned is a martial arts teacher. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
He'd been a tenant of housing association One Housing | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
since the late 1980s. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
There was nothing remarkable about the tenancy | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
until a few years ago when housing officers noticed that | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
whenever anything needed doing around the house, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
it was always the tenant's daughter who contacted them. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Luke finds out more. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
Our tenant's daughter had called on behalf of her father | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
a couple of times with repairs. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
If you've got someone's daughter just phoning up, | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
that's quite normal, is it? | 0:22:37 | 0:22:38 | |
Just to organise repairs or whatever is needed? | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
It's not unusual, but it happened on a number of occasions, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
they hadn't really seen him, they'd gone round to the property, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
they weren't finding the tenant. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
They weren't really seeing him at home. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
So, suspicions at the housing association were raised | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
and then the tenant called Reading local authority's | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
council tax department. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:00 | |
In April of 2014, our tenant called them up and said, | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
"I want to move, I'm moving abroad with my wife. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
"Can you put our daughter on the council tax?" | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
At this point, he's only talking to local authority, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
but what he's saying there is he's going to go | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
and live abroad somewhere else, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
his daughter's going to stay in the property. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
-If you have social housing, you can't just do that, can you? -No. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
I think he didn't expect anyone to be looking at this too seriously. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
Maybe he didn't think he was doing anything that wrong | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
by just allowing his daughter to live in the property. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
It's a common misconception, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
but normally you cannot pass your social housing on to your children. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
They have to join the queue with everyone else. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
Back on the trail, the council contacted the housing | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
association investigators and asked them to look into the case. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
They began their search online. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
We make great use of social media, things of that nature. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
-People post about their lives. -Yeah, sure. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So, what we did, we did a quick search | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
and we found a profile for our tenant online. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
OK, what did that tell you? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:08 | |
March 2014, saying goodbye to the pets, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
cos he's moving to Greece. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
-"Due to our house move, our beautiful pets -BLEEP -and cat -BLEEP | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
"and the dog are changing household. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
"It's sad to see them both going." | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
He's re-homing his pets and, again, you can see March 2014 | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
right around the time... | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
It's tied in with the information we already have | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
that he's going to leave. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
You can see here that it says he's living in Greece | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
and a picture of the house there. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:34 | |
From our point of view, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
the evidence doesn't get too much better than that. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I guess you wouldn't put your status as, I can see it there, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
"Living in Greece," unless you were living in Greece. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
This is a social media site, Facebook, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
that everyone uses, pretty much. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
-So, he's putting that out there to the world. -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
And he's very detailed about what he posts and there's a lot of it, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
so you know, and it's very specific about locations, what he's doing. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
He tags himself in, so, you can see from some of the posts, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
we'll have a look, that he's actually located himself | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
as being in Greece when he's putting that up and putting that out there. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
He's putting so much information on. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
So, in a way he's giving you, on a plate, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
quite a beautiful life story in images, isn't he? | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Absolutely. Anyone who can use a computer can access. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
-It's very blatant, isn't it? -It is, yeah. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
With nearly 39 million people in the UK using the internet | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
every single day, tracking someone's life is easier | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
than you might think. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
From social media and online banking to chatrooms and forums. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
It's a source of information | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
that councils | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
and housing associations are now | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
actively using to investigate | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
tenancy fraud suspects | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
and put guilty parties behind bars. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
More evidence came in the form of another status update. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
So, you can see here in the very same month on this next post, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
"Started a new job." | 0:25:55 | 0:25:56 | |
OK, I mean, that is just, surely, all the information you need? | 0:25:56 | 0:26:00 | |
The guy has moved, I can see it says, "Moved," | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
I can see it says, "Started work." | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, for us, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
this is almost the perfect investigation. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
We don't really want to have to go and trace money or anything | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
through three, four, five bank accounts. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
This is all here, it's all been given to us | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
by the tenant simply putting information out there | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
for the public and for anyone to read. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
With so much evidence already in the public domain, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
Graham felt confident his tenant would move his daughter out | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
and give the keys back to the housing association. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
We've had an interview with him | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and we've essentially put this information to him. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
We've said that we don't believe that he's living at the address, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
that his daughter's living at the address and he's out in Greece. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
We've taken him through the same evidence that we've shown you today. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
He denied that he was living in Greece. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
-Really? -Absolutely. -Wow. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
What he said to us was that, essentially, you can update | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
your Facebook status from anywhere and I just do that. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
I want all my friends to know that I've...a nice life, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
I've got self-confidence issues... | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
So, basically, he was saying to us, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
"I'm not living there, I'm just making these posts up." | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
So, Graham was forced to get yet more evidence. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
We also requested bank statements from him | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
and one of those was a joint account with his wife in Greece. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
We asked him in the interview if he had, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
if he knew about that account and at first, he denied it. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
He denied it flat out. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
We said to him, "We've got this joint account, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
"that's going to clearly show transactions coming from Greece." | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Did he try and fight to keep the property? | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
A few days later, he came to the office and said | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
that actually he didn't want to have that fight... | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
He said that he was prepared to hand the keys back. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
Finally, this Greek tragedy had come to an end. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
We have vacant possession, we have the property back | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
and it's in the process of being re-let. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
OK. And I have no doubt whatsoever that a family | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
who is in genuine need of social housing | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
will be over the moon to live in a house like that. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Yeah. Absolutely. | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
We've seen before, it's a lovely property, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
it's going to one of the many deserving people | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
who will make good use of it. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
London councils own a quarter of all council homes in England, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
but are responsible for over half of all housing fraud detected. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
1,618 homes were recovered | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
from cheats in London last year. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
If you've got something that's worth a lot of money, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
i.e. somewhere to live in London, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
it's bound to be open to, you know, people abusing the system. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
I think the strain in London is particularly difficult. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
London is a hub for migrants, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
it's a hub for people who want to work on the black market. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
And I think...and therefore, as a result of that, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
you're going to get overcrowding. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
There are people out there that do need social housing | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
and need it desperately. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
Especially people with bigger families. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
So, in order for other people to actually earn their money | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
off that, which I think is quite... | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
It's not nice, really, is it? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
Who wants to sleep on the streets? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:04 | |
Who wants to, you know, not have a bed? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
Who wants to sleep in hostels? | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
As far as I'm concerned, my home is really important to myself. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
And, you know, if it came that I basically no longer needed it, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:20 | |
the first thing I would do is give it back to the people | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
that I actually owned the place from, you know, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
and not be selfish about it. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
Some tenancy fraud cases can be resolved very quickly, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
but others can take months of painstaking detective work. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
Viridian Housing is one of the biggest housing associations | 0:29:39 | 0:29:43 | |
in the UK, it manages over 16,000 properties. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Preventing property fraud is a big priority for them. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Luke meets up with Katrina Robinson, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
who heads up Viridian's tenancy fraud operations. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
Katrina is relentless in her pursuit of tenancy cheats, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
so much so her efforts were recognised by Her Majesty | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
when she received an MBE in the New Year's Honours list. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Katrina, how do you deal with housing fraud here at Viridian? | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
Well, we have two in-house tenancy fraud investigators | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
and we also have an in-house legal team. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
And we are very passionate about detecting | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and stopping tenancy fraud. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Why are you so passionate about this? | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
Because it's simply not right | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
when we have the huge problems we have at the moment | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
and probably will continue in the country regarding housing. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
But people are making vast sums of money | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
out of subletting our properties and they just shouldn't be. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Our properties are to house people that have a social housing need. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
We're not here for people to make a profit out of us. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
It is pure greed. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
People can make an awful lot of money out of it, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
but, of course, now they can also go to prison because of it. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Do you think a lot of people think, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
"Got a social housing property or a council property, it's mine, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
"it's just the council, I can do exactly what I want with it." | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Yes, unfortunately, I feel a lot of people are of that view. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
They consider it's like, you know, back in the 1970s is when | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
you got a social home, you had it forever | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
and you never got evicted and things are very, very different now. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Our next case took Katrina's team over 12 months to unravel. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
And it involved a young woman who not only barely set foot | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
inside the property allocated to her, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
but tried to cling onto it by falsifying documents. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
This is Redcliffe Square, in the Earls Court area of London. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Once known as bedsit land, it's now an exclusive | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
and sought-after area. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:30 | |
Luke's on his way there now, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
with housing officer Debbie who wishes to remain anonymous. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
In March 2014, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
Viridian Housing moved a young woman into a flat in Redcliffe Square. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:43 | |
A starter tenancy was given to a female single occupier | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
about March 2014. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
She was nominated to us, because she was in a female hostel. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:58 | |
On the face of it, the tenant seemed like a deserving case, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
but after a few months, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
the neighbours reported that there was no-one living at the flat. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
Debbie decided to investigate further. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
You've given someone a tenancy who's in a vulnerable situation, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
who's been living in a hostel and they appear not to be there. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
-Well, that's what was being alleged... -Right. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
..after the first, sort of, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
when the referral initially came to me. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
I conduct background checks. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
She wasn't showing as laying a footprint. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
When you say footprint, you mean things like gas, electricity, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
utilities, that kind of thing? | 0:32:31 | 0:32:32 | |
Yeah, yeah, sort of, like, showing, maybe bank statements, | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
maybe you'd move your mobile phone contracts. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Am I right in thinking that we are kind of seconds away from Chelsea? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
I mean, this area is the London Borough | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
-of Kensington and Chelsea, yes. -Incredible. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
It's just full of incredibly tall, beautiful houses. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -Yeah, yeah. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
You can park here, we're going to the property | 0:32:53 | 0:32:55 | |
that's literally just over there to the other side of that square. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
OK, so it's actually on the square? | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
-It is on the square. -This is stunning, isn't it? | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
Yeah, it's beautiful. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:03 | |
It's a very impressive entrance, isn't it? | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
Yeah, really nice. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
Let's go inside and have a look. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
So, how many flats would be in here? | 0:33:11 | 0:33:12 | |
There's eight. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
One of the first clues that the tenant | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
wasn't actually living at the property | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
came when her mail started piling up. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Obviously the tenant's mail is put on the hall table here | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
and it had been reported that there was uncollected mail for the tenant. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
OK. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
Which I saw for myself when I visited, there was a bundle. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
OK, are you going to show me the flat? | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
-Yeah. -Great. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
Let's have a look. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
What's sort of the layout here? | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
-This is the bathroom. -OK. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
-That's nice. Nice, high ceilings. -Yeah. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
And then the living room next door. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
All right. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:53 | |
-I mean, it's a studio flat. -It's a studio flat, yeah. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
-So, it's living room and... -Bedroom. -..bedroom. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
But it's still a good size and I can't get over the location. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
-Well, for a single person, yeah, exactly. -Perfect. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:07 | |
Where it is for the amount of money - great. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
A typical studio flat on the open market in Redcliffe Square | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
would fetch up to £1,500 a month. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
The housing association rent on this property is just £514 a month. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
-Up here, so it's on two levels. This is the kitchen. -Yeah. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
-It's pretty sizeable, isn't it? -Well, yes. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
She had the flat, what happened in terms of her...? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I spoke with my manager, who sort of given the lack of contact, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
we had people in the block saying they'd not been seen. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
The housing officer had made visits, she'd not responded, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
there was piles of post being left in the hallway. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
-We decided to serve the notices. -OK. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:51 | |
Serving a notice to quit and a notice of seeking possession | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
means the tenant has a set period of time to vacate the property. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
If they failed to do so, then eviction proceedings will start. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
So, when you say serve notices, that's giving the tenant, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
your tenant the opportunity to give the flat back, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
-because it's clear they're not using it. -Yeah. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
How did she react to that? | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
Well, I served the notice which has two months before it expires | 0:35:14 | 0:35:19 | |
and I literally heard from her about four days before it expired. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
-Really? -So, for almost two months I heard nothing | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and then she picks the phone up. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
What did she say? | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
She said that she had been away | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
and had to deal with a family emergency | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
and that this was her main home and that she would prove it to us. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
I gave her the opportunity to go away and provide me | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
with utility bills, payments made, usage details from the date | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
that she moved in the flat to the date that she made contact. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:51 | |
So, the tenant came up with some e-mails that seemed to | 0:35:51 | 0:35:54 | |
indicate the services were all in hand. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
I looked at the sort of e-mails that were being sent | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
and I queried them with the actual companies themselves directly. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
-The e-mails had been doctored that she'd been sending to me. -Really? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
The tenant faked e-mails from the utilities company | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
to try and keep hold of the flat that she wasn't even living in. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
After she'd rang me in response to the notices and that I said, | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
"This is what I want," she then got on the phone to all the utilities. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
-Kind of... -Saying I need the account in my name, kind of thing. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
It's kind of quite desperate. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Yeah, I sort of said to her, basically, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
"I'm fully aware of, you know, what you've done, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
"you've doctored e-mails to make it look like you've been resident | 0:36:37 | 0:36:40 | |
"from the start date and been paying bills." | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
When you confronted her with that, was she shocked? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Well, this was over the phone. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
And she was in denial, complete denial. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:49 | |
Surely the whole idea about social housing | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
-is that you actually live in it? -And you live there. Yeah. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
It has to be your main and principal home. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:55 | |
In fact, leaving the flat empty is a breach of the tenancy agreement | 0:36:55 | 0:37:00 | |
and it's preventing someone in need from living in it. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
After a whole year of battling it out at court, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
eventually the housing association won back possession of the flat | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and the tenant was ordered to leave. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
-This is now clearly a home to someone. -Yeah. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
So, you got the property back and it's being re-let to someone else? | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
Yeah, within weeks of getting the property back, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
the new tenants moved in, made it their home. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
That must give you amazing job satisfaction | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
to know that someone in genuine need now lives where we're standing. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
Well, all I can say is congratulations with your tenacity. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
-Great work, well done. -Thank you. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
You don't just walk through the door and say, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
"Can I have a property, please?" And they're handing out keys. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
To be issued that and then not use it, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
I can't understand why people would do that. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
The victims of social housing for me would be the people | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
that genuinely have a need for immediate social housing | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
so people that maybe need to have...be moved from a hostel | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
or maybe from a bedsit to somewhere that's more permanent | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
if they're a young family. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:58 | |
And they're not having that availability, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
cos someone else is exploiting the system. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
It's so valuable, this housing, that we should be very disciplined | 0:38:02 | 0:38:08 | |
about how it's used and councils should be very careful | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
about what they do. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
I think that far too many social housing homes | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
were sold off in the past, which has left a desperate shortage now | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
and I know people who are on waiting lists, | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
so I do think it's a problem, yes. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
This next story came to light | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
when a housing benefit claim was made from an address | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
which should have been rented out to another family entirely. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
In fact, the family who should've been living at the flat | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
in Poplar, East London, had moved out | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
and were unlawfully subletting it. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
This is Avril Drummond, from Poplar Harca housing association. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
She's passionate about social housing going to the right people, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
in other words, the people who've been waiting patiently | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
on the housing list, rather than wanting to jump the queue. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
She first got wind of this case when a colleague examined | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
a housing benefit claim from a resident | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
in one of Poplar Harca's homes. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
This case first came to light... | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
I received an e-mail from the rent officer | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
to advise me that a housing benefit claim had been made | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
by somebody who wasn't our lawful tenant. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
So, I started looking into the circumstances, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
I carried out financial checks on the person named | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
on the housing benefit application form and also on our lawful tenant. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
And I found that our lawful tenant, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
although she was still registered on the property, the electoral roll, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
so was another three different people which concerned me greatly, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:44 | |
as it was only a two-bedroom flat, it's not a huge property. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:47 | |
So, I started carrying out financial checks | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
on the lawful tenant and that showed | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
that she did have a few financial links to the property, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
but so did the person who was named on the housing benefit form. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Normally, you wouldn't register your bank account or credit cards | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
or apply for credit at a property you don't live at | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
as your main and principal home. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
So, Avril dug further into the tenant's paperwork. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
I checked back on the tenancy, there was no notification that this | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
tenant had other people living in the property with her. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
And she was still registered there with her husband and two children. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
So, the property would have been extremely overcrowded | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
with eight people living in a two-bedroom flat. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
If you're a social housing tenant, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
you're supposed to inform the council if you get married | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
or have children | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
or if there's any change | 0:40:41 | 0:40:42 | |
in the number of people | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
living in your property. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
Once Avril was sure of her case, | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
she went to the flat and spoke to one of the people living there. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
It turned out to be a friend of the tenant. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Once we were inside the property, the tenant's friend, | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
who'd been living there for years, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:02 | |
she was very helpful, very cooperative. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
She gave us some, you know, more information, more evidence. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
The documents the subtenant gave to Avril | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
showed she was paying £350 a month in rent to the official tenant. | 0:41:12 | 0:41:16 | |
With other names also associated with the property, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
Avril decided she had sufficient evidence to start the formal process | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
of getting the flat back. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
And allocating it to someone else. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
We believe that the property was being, possibly, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
misused for up to four years. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
Putting everything together, the financial evidence, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:41 | |
the evidence, the witness statement from the tenant's friend, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
her bank statements, also the pictures of inside the property. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:50 | |
That, in whole, gave us, we believe, enough evidence | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
to warrant serving notices on the property, which is what we then did. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
Once Avril had told the official tenant how much evidence she had, | 0:41:57 | 0:42:01 | |
the tenant didn't take up the option to go to court, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
but handed the keys back. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
The property has been reallocated to a local family in genuine need | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
off the waiting list, which is absolutely fantastic. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
You know, every single family that's re-homed, you know, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
is a job well done, as far as I'm concerned. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
So, absolutely over the moon | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
that a deserving family has now been re-housed. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
It really is down to the hard work and tenacity of housing fraud | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
officers that tenancy cheats are being stopped in their tracks. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
And those properties can then be given to people in genuine need. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 |