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This morning on the Crimewatch Roadshow has. Can you help us catch
this con woman using a stolen credit card to NT's somebody else's
bank account of thousands of Welcome to Crimewatch Roadshow. The
programme that offers you the chance to catch the crooks
affecting all our lives. We're on the trail of the con artists this
morning. The confidence tricksters who prey on the vulnerable and the
naive. We'll hear from the vicar who
handed over more than �1,000 to a trickster wanted by police all over
the UK. We've got an update on our
exclusive investigation into the gang targeting NHS staff.
And, ever wondered just what those CSI white suits are up to? We've
got the inside story. Today, we're working with
Gloucestershire Constabulary, and we've moved on to the village of
Frampton on Severn, Miriam, it It really is gorgeous here, Rav.
Where I'm standing is reputed to be the longest village green in
England. But, as we know by now, even somewhere as peaceful as this
can be hit by some very distressing crime. We've got the story of how a
local care home assistant was fleeced by a con man who took her
bank details and emptied her account. With me again today is the
BBC's man in Gloucestershire, Steve Knibbs. Steve.
Thanks, Miriam. You might think this rural part of the world
doesn't use high tech forensics as much as the big cities. But later
in the programme, I will be showing you how this, and it looks like a
strip of cellophane, can help lift Take a good look at this face. This
is Robert Kerr. On last month's Crimewatch, I asked for your help
to track him down. He's a con man who rips off Christians with a
convincing sob story. Let's just remind you what I told you about
On 10th November 2010, Reverend Alan Neil was preparing his church
for an Armistice service. The next few days would be memorable, but
for all the wrong reasons. I saw a man that was looking at our
notice board on the church, and I Excuse me, are you all right?
Not really, no, I've just lost my wallet and my ticket and everything,
and I need to get back to my unit in Ireland, I've got to get up to
Manchester, I've got no train ticket. I've got no money, I've got
no food. Despite his dishevelled appearance,
the man claimed to have a connection to the military in
Northern Ireland. I've got to get back to my unit,
otherwise I'm going to be on a charge.
Oh you're a military man? Well, I would try and help in any
situation when people come. My faith is very important to me, I've
always been of that sort of nature. If I could help in any situation, I
would try and help. And you've got to get from here?
From here to Manchester, yes, then to Ireland.
I decided I would give him the money for the fare.
I think we can possibly help you. Come with me, I think I might be
able to help you. To get him back to Northern Ireland,
the reverend gave Kerr �40 for a train ticket to Manchester airport.
But it was all part of an elaborate con that was only just beginning.
Hello, is that the reverend there? At 8am in the morning, I had a
phone call from a voice that said he was a Major in the Armed Forces
in Ireland. I just wanted to thank you for
helping our man there, Andrew. Andrew? Yes, that's right, Andrew,
you helped him. Gave him money for the flight.
yes. But the phone call was a ruse to
make the next stage of Kerr's scam seem more believable. It was to
unfold the next morning. As I came to the church, I saw this
figure, and immediately I thought, that's the chap I helped yesterday
that was supposed to be going to Andrew?
How do you know my name? Someone from the Army phoned here
last night. He explained to me he had a history
of diabetes, and he had an attack last night, and he hadn't made the
train. What are you doing here now?
He subsequently told me he had been to a B&B in the town. And he only
had �10 left. So it was back to the cash machine
for a second time. With the kind hearted reverend believing he was
helping Kerr back to Northern Ireland with another �40 train
ticket. But that still wasn't the end of this con.
I was at home, and I got this phone call.
Hello, is that the reverend there? It was the voice he had heard the
previous day, this time telling him that Kerr had missed his plane, and
would need to catch a special military flight the next day.
He said: Can you please go to the station and pick this Andrew up.
I went to the station to pick him up. He was waiting at the station.
I brought him back home. It was at this point, Kerr made his
most audacious move. Asking the reverend to lend him �800 for this
military flight home. As it happened, I had money in the
house. So, with the money I had in the house, and I also had some
church money, I was able to sort In the final stage of the scam,
Kerr claimed he would ensure a courier would bring the reverend
all the money he was owed. And provided him with a military
security code to further reassure him. But, like every other part of
this con, it was a complete fabrication.
He said: "Write this down." Alpha, Victor, Charlie, one six nine.
He said: "You have got a security number and name now." You'll need
that, otherwise he won't give you the money.
A courier would come and bring me this money, and I had to make sure
I was in when the courier came. I waited three days, and the
courier never came. With one final train ticket paid
for, in total, the reverend gave more than �1,000 to Robert Kerr.
But it wasn't long before this conman was targeting unsuspecting
Christians in another part of the country.
The story of Robert Kerr leads to Gloucestershire later in the
programme. We almost got him last Time now for a quick look at our
For this man seemed to be popping it into this pub in London's
Victoria Station. Once inside it is clear it is not boos he is after as
it picks up a customer's bag. The pub staff give chase. He end up
dropping the bag on the concourse. Let us call time on this brief,
tell us who hears. -- he is. The kick arise honest man
in a green T-shirt. As he goes about his business
withdrawing cash, he is surrounded by three men. 1 distracts the lady
in line, while the others stand side-by-side. Before the cash pops
out, one thief attacked him on the solder tells -- telling him he has
dropped some money, while the other takes his cash. Give us their names.
We have all heard of shoplifting, but making the shop fittings,
that's a new one. These two had decided to take advantage of the
Highways scrap prices by steering this fruit and veg stand from the
back of this supermarket in Kent. They are going to the shop and
steal some alcohol. Tell us who they are. Remember if you know any
thing about any of those incidents. Do the right thing and get in touch.
The numbers are on your screen. Just time for a quick update on our
appeals so far. On yesterday's show, we featured an
armed robbery of a shop in Coney Hill, Gloucester, in which the
offenders threatened a member of staff with an axe and a gun. A
couple of callers have put forward potential names for the violent
pair. Keep the calls coming. We want to bring them to justice.
Also yesterday, we featured an appeal to catch a violent robber
who targeted a pensioner in his own home. One of our callers has
provided us with information on a man who may fit the attacker's
description, and we've passed this on to police.
We have had more through on our Wanted Faces. Yesterday, we
featured James Fielder, wanted for conspiracy to supply class A drugs
and handling stolen property. A number of callers claim to have
seen him. Also, Benjamin James Reeve, who
failed to keep the conditions of his release from prison, may have
been spotted by one of our viewers. Still to come on today's programme.
Of the AA con man who fleeced care home staff and tried the same trick
on a GP's surgery on the same day. Find out how I got on when we put
the latest facial imagery technology to the test.
And, the moment the con man Robert Kerr came calling and fleeced a
couple out of hundreds of pounds. Before all that, here's Steve in
Gloucestershire, with a touch of CSI in the States stands for Crime
Scene Investigation. But we have SOCOs here, Scenes of Crime
Officers. The work these guys do remains a mystery. So when I was
offered a chance to take a closer look at the world of forensics, I
couldn't resist the opportunity to Pieces of material, flakes of skin,
a single strand of hair or a speck of blood. All of these are
invaluable to the forensics team, and can be the key to solving
crimes. But ever since it became a part of police work over 100 years
ago, there is one element is just A lot of our time is spent at crime
scenes trying to find evidence. And quite often, you'll see our scenes
of crime officers involved actually looking at the evidence trying to
find fingerprints, DNA, all sorts of trace evidence with which to
link the person who committed the My day-to-day job involves
attending crime scenes, burglaries, cars, trying to detect forensic
evidence. But it's not as simple as it looks. Most officers carry four
different types of powder with them. Which one to use depends on the
surface. And there's a real art to the brushing, flicking the powder
rather than smearing it. We've got a car you're going to demonstrate
You can see just here. They're really clear. Absolutely. We'd
always like to find results like that on a vehicle that's been
broken into. But brushing and powder aren't the only ways to
track down fingerprints. And today's high-tech methods even
include using precious metals to lift those all-important
This is a Vacuum Metal Deposition. How does that help? It gets
fingerprints from plastic bags and other items. We insert into the
Here, we've got little bits of zinc and gold. We evaporate the zinc and
gold, and we get a raised film on top of the plastic bag, and we get
a finger print from that. It may look like a giant tumble drier. But
this equipment allows the team to lift prints from almost anything.
This is the bag that's been through the VMD process. What can we see?
They are quite fragile finger prints, and you can see areas of
There are more than 20 million fingerprints in the national
database. What police are after is This is a match we've just created
today. On the left is the crime scene mark, and on the right is the
file print. What I've done is mark the little deviations in the ridge.
Every human fingerprint is completely unique. These red
circles capture the tiniest detail. And this one's a match. We are more
than happy to say this is absolutely the person.
Julia Robertshaw. You work with the Forensics Unit. There is a lot more
to it than that, we might look for fibres and decrying saying where a
criminal has come into a premises. We can match that to clothing. If a
window is smashed, you might have the last from that window you can
compare and match up to the suspect, from their hair or clothing. And
for its work is a big part of what We have a more Cup crime scene.
What are we looking for? scenario is the cricket club has
been broken into and this window has been left insecure which is a
problem. The offender has come through and stepped onto the table.
So we are going to try to look for a footprint with black plastic?
That's right. Because it is a latent Mark and we can't see it
with the naked eye, Simon is using a flake which will bring up the
pattern features. That has come through really clearly. That is a
good print, obviously. They are often not that good in the field.
Now we put downbeat gel that we showed you earlier. -- we put down
the daily. That looks fantastic. That is a good match? That is a
good print. How unique are these that Prince though? The soul of the
issue has pretty unique characteristics. They are cold
"class characteristics" but as you walk, you walk a certain way and
those features are a unique. want to get a match. We have some
suspect's from the crew. Tell us who you think this could be?
have different types of shoes - bits and trainers. If we lift up
the first sue I saw, you can see the marks on here match that Sue.
Who is are suspect? It is Miriam. When we have anyone in custody, we
can take their issue marks and put them on the database and match them
with crime scene marks. You are getting good successes? Yes, just
recently we had a conviction based solely on the third where from a
scene of crime. Thank you for sharing as that. I am afraid CSI
will never be the same again! Usually, we show you a collection
of people the police are keen to track down. These faces are from
the Serious Organised Crime Agency. You are in charge of the operation,
tell us more. This is all about tracking British fugitives we think
are in the Netherlands. The initiative is to focus on six faces.
We think they are in the Netherlands and we are looking to
launch an initiative with Crimestoppers and a Dutch
colleagues. Why do thing they are targeting the Netherlands, as
opposed to Spain? There is a beat expat community. We have big
successes in Spain. Since 2008, we have arranged -- arrested over 200
fugitives and we have displaced some fugitives to the Netherlands
because now Spain is a hostile environment. We are trying to
replicate that in the Netherlands and the - authorities are keen to
try and emulate what we have succeeded in doing so far. How long
has it been running? This initiative was launched last March
but we have done a lot of preliminary work around this and
the Dutch have changed the legislation to get these images in
the media. The privacy laws did not allow it area. Briefly, a lot of
these people are very dangerous so if people see them, what should
they do? The important thing is to do it in partnership with
Crimestoppers. People can phone in anonymously and not approach the
individuals. Whether they are travelling or living in the
community, it is a fantastic opportunity to try and help us find
them. Let us look at them. First, we have the Albanian, Belino
Gripshi, wanted for conspiracy to supply a class A drugs and money-
laundering offences. He is believed to be part of the criminal network
trafficking cocaine into the Netherlands. Have you seen him?
Secondly, James Nicholas Tarrant who has been convicted of supplying
cocaine and cannabis and possession of a firearm. Two years ago he was
granted conditional bail but has gone on the run. It is believed he
travels between the Netherlands and Spain.
Do you know this man? Paul Christopher -- Christopher
Finnighan who is believed to be in connection with a crime gang. He
was bailed to report to police in Liverpool but went on the run. He
has a Liverpudlian accent. It is believed he spent time in Amsterdam.
Do you know where he is? This is Mark Anthony Fitzgibbon who
was wanted by police since 2005 for supplying cannabis and amphetamines.
He also has a Liverpudlian accent and police believe he is currently
in the Netherlands. If you have seen any of this lot on your
travels, please get in touch. Back to Miriam in Frampton.
In our very first programme we brought to a special investigation
into a gang stealing bank cards from NHS staff and conning them
into revealing their pink numbers. Here in Frampton, we have come
across a con targeting a care home which bears the same hallmarks.
I don't know how they can do it to anybody. They obviously do not have
a heart. From the job I do, all I want to do is help people and they
have violated that. I was so devastated and I was angry at
myself for giving over my pain. -- PIN number. Kelly spends her numbed
-- life looking after elderly patients in a care home. I love my
job. It is so rewarding helping the residents and going home knowing
that the simple things of being clean and dressed properly are so
rewarding. You think you have done your job. Last month, one phone
call doing an ordinary day cost her thousands of pounds. I arrived at
work, changed over from the morning shift to the afternoon Shift. I was
bathing a resident and that is when a colleague said there was a phone
call for me. I went to answer the phone call. I didn't know what it
was at the time. The person on the other end of the friend said he was
from Lloyds Bank and that someone was trying to use my card in
Evesham. I looked and noticed my purse was gone so I started to
panic. Kelly was unaware an hour earlier at a con man had visited
her work place. The man went to it at the driveway to the nursing home.
He Black his way in by claiming he was called an organisation selling
books. He was always with a staff member. They took him to the staff
room area where the books are normally kept. The staff personal
equipment, handbags and coats are left in there. Quite a high value
area. He was shown from the nursing home and seeing it through the
front door. Unfortunately, it is unclear how he has then got back
into the nursing home but he has obviously gone back into the
He has then stolen to purses belonging to staff members. He then
left the care home again and was seen by a member of staff walking
down the driveway. But stealing purses was the beginning. Next, he
called the victims. He started to Roelof transactions I had made in
recent days which were all correct to my knowledge. He said that the
police were on their way to arrest the Women as they confirmed it
wasn't me in the branch. All my cards would need to be stopped
straightaway. But he asked me if I knew the last three numbers of my
cards. Obviously I said no. So he said the only way he would be able
to stop my cards would be to use my PIN number. Unfortunately, I gave
them over because I genuinely believed that he was going to help
make and he would be able to stop my cards. Minutes after she handed
over how PIN number, nearby, a woman was caught on CCTV using a
stolen cards. -- the stolen cars. It wasn't until my manager said,
something doesn't seem quite right, don't give though there any more
information, I realised, "Bono" -- Bono. The account was empty of over
�2,000. I'm getting married soon and I'm saving really hard for it.
I thought I wouldn't be able to get married this year. I was just so
devastated and I was angry at myself for giving over my PIN
Being conned is never a nice thing. It is such a horrible crime. For
someone to suffer and I can imagine they feel quite foolish. I knew I
shouldn't give my PIN number over but you put yourself in the
position I was in and knowing your purse was gone. You have somebody
saying somebody is trying to use your card and they will be able to
help you and stop it. You are in a panic anyway, you would do anything
and give over anything for them to help you. They obviously do not
have a heart at all. It makes me angry that they could go and do
that. Sergeant Phillipa Rawlings is working on the case. This chap
tried to carry out the same Kong somewhere else on the same day. --
corner. Yes, he said he was a book man at the local surgery and was
shown into the staff area where the books are kept. He had a look
around the staff room, just gazing around. Asked the receptionist for
a plastic bag but she said she didn't have one. He was not left
alone so he picked up books and left with them. Was this after the
care home? Yes, in the afternoon. He was hoping he would be
successful again obviously? Yes. You have an E-fit. He is a white
man, about five feet 11 inches tall. Medium build with a bald head,
clean-shaven. He has a Westcountry accent, protruding ears and an
earring in his left ear. That is quite distinctive. He had an
accomplice at the bank, didn't he? Yes, there was a female who went
into a bank later in the Stonehouse area. We believed she worked --
they worked as a team. She was able to secured an overdraft and took
out a large amount of money from the account. They must have been
raised and to pass themselves off as someone else and get an
overdraft? Yes, a brazen act and an awful thing to happen to someone.
Thank you. If you have any information on this, please do get
in touch. Now there is more information on possible
similarities to this case and our own investigation.
As Mary and said, the gang known as the Coventry Falcons took hundreds
of thousands of pounds from NHS staff. They made their way into
Secure areas where they stole wallets and purses be court --
before calling bear witness -- victims and making them panic into
revealing their PIN numbers. Tell It could involve theft. Theft,
fraud, the whole range. You are keen to ask for help on this CCTV
image. This fellow was in a clinic in at Lancaster or, in April 2010.
He was there at the same time as a purse was stolen in similar
circumstances This is the Frampton care home con man, we can see his
e-fit now. I'm very interested in the e-fit for the con in
Gloucestershire, because it is similar to some CCTV we have of a
suspected member of the Coventry Falcons. He was captured on camera
at a GP surgery in Lancashire. me about this man? Garry Francis
O'Neill, who we appealed for last time. We still want to talk to him
in connection with the theft of bank cards from hospitals in
Cambridgeshire and Kent. And this man with the red tie? I'm very
pleased to say the fantastic response from the public on this
one in particular, in fact we got calls from two police officers
giving a name for this man. And a full statement of identification.
If anyone out there does know anything, or recognise any of these
images, please get in touch. There's already been an arrest of
one alleged gang member. Let's see how many more suspects we can track
down. The numbers are on your screen. Now back to Steve.
Earlier, we told you about a different con man called Robert
Kerr targeting a church in Scarborough. His scam has extended
to this part of the world as well. Robert Kerr is a merciless conman
who targets Christians. He's wanted by forces across the UK. And in
January this year, he struck again. Ripping off a couple in Gloucester,
who were so distraught after what happened, they want to protect
their identity. We thought we were doing a favour
for another Christian. But as it turns out, I don't think we were.
It started with a phone call from a gentleman who was phoning from the
Ministry of Defence. Hello, I'm calling from the MOD. A member of
the church has just been discharged this morning from the Royal
Gloucester Hospital. He's gone to the station, and he doesn't really
know. I was wondering whether you might be able to do me a favour.
wanted us to make sure that he'd got on the correct train. Would you
be able to go there just to greet him really. A friendly face would
mean so much to him. We went up to the train station and met the chap,
and it just all started from there. When Kerr met the couple, he asked
for a small amount of money. He wanted a train fare. But his
deception was only just beginning. His train ticket that he had was
out of date, because he said he'd been in the hospital too long. And
he wanted to go to a cash point to get some money out to get another
one. My husband took him up to the bank. When he put his card in,
there were no funds available. So he asked if he could borrow some
money until the following day. claimed it was too late to catch
his train. And back at their house, the couple lent him more money,
completely unaware he was drawing them into another of his elaborate
cons. Because he said there were no more trains, we gave him all that
we had, and drove him to a Travelodge. He wanted something for
an evening meal, and breakfast the next morning. So we gave him �120.
That was all the cash I had. went inside the Travelodge, and
came back out, said they haven't got any rooms. The couple drove him
to another hotel in the area. They thought this was the end of it, but
sadly, there was worse to come. About an hour later, there was a
knock on the door. He was extremely distressed. I've had a bit of
trouble again. And he needed some more money. As unbelievable as it
sounds, Kerr claimed to have left the �160 they had given him in a
taxi, and he was penniless again. So I turned round and said well I
haven't got any more money. I've only got my credit card. He said,
well, take me to your ATM and get some money out of there. So it was
off to the cash machine where Kerr was given �200. And then to a
supermarket to use cash back for even more money. It's during this
part of his con, that Kerr was I turned round and said goodbye to
him. And off I went and got back in the car and went home. Kerr
promised to return at a later date, and reimburse the �460 he owed. But,
like all his other victims, the couple would never hear from Kerr
again. He said he was coming back. And we waited until then. As soon
as the time passed, I then contacted the police. I was very
cross when we realised what had happened, and that we'd been taken
in. Robert Kerr is a despicable man. We believe Kerr travels the country
committing these offences. He's targeting the vulnerable, and the
people that need this money that he is taking off them. He needs
stopping, and he needs stopping Leigh Bickerdyke. You're the
officer trying to track down Kerr. What else can you tell us about how
he operates? From the information we have received so far, we don't
believe he has a permanent residence. He uses B&Bs and public
transport, so he's hard to track down. He has made reference to
money for train fares, so we think he may not have access to his own
personal vehicle. We have seen he may be using somebody else as part
of the scam. On the whole, we think he is a lone man. However, on some
of the occasions, there has been a phone call for seed by the victims.
From that, the voice is described diffin lay. It may be him
disguising his voice. Or he may on occasion be acquiring an accomplice.
You have expense of working on similar cases. His Robert Kerr
preying on these people because they are naturally generous? That
is a true. They are known to be open and generous with their
hospitality. Also, their information is publicly available,
appearing on noticeboards, and we're working with the churches to
limit the amount of information available. A witness in
Gloucestershire have reported seeing someone matching Roberts's
description looking at a noticeboard, and later asking for
directions to a particular parish members home. Do think there are
more victims? I think a small amount has been reported. People
may feel embarrassed that they have been conned, I urge them to come
forward because the information they may have about where he has
been committing crimes will help us identify the roots of trouble he
has been taking. Dear thing he has been operating recently? We had a
report two weeks ago from Lancashire police of a similar
offence. We think that was Robert. You are working with forces all
over the country. Yes, Avon and Somerset police, Lancashire police,
and Northern Ireland are interested. If you know where Kerr is now, or
if he's approached you, please give us a call. Con men like him have to
be caught. The numbers are on your Yesterday, we set a test for Rav.
We showed him this man, Paul, who's our totally innocent satellite
engineer for just a few seconds. Rav then had to pass on a
description to an expert working on a new system of facial imagery to
help crack crime. Take a look at If you can explain the system to me
and I will try my best to relay what I can remember. I will ask you
described the person's face. Then we will use this system. I will
show you screens of faces and ask Some are more distinctively rounder.
I would say this one is about right for me. About there. At the moment,
I think that is pretty good from what I can remember. That hair is
definitely too long. It just needs to come forward a tiny bit. The
We have a bold the face, worked on the hair, pulled all the elements
together, what you think of the lightness? I think that is as close
as I can get, I am happy with that. That was yesterday. This is the man
I saw yesterday. How do you think we did? From what you gave me, it
was quite hard, because he didn't have any distinguishing features.
But I think the likeness isn't too bad. The hairline and the outside
of the face has worked out quite well. The image has stretched out a
bit more but overall a pretty good job. What I found difficult was I
could not remember really well find details. That is way a system
really helps. It was merging different faces together as opposed
to an artist's impression way you would have to give details. Is that
where this comes into its own? have trouble remembering the
features, you can give me a description of the mouth, so we had
to do it in a different way. I was showing you screens of faces and
you worked with that. It is still relatively early days for this
system, how is it going with his trial period? We have been selling
the system for a couple of years. 14 police forces are using the
system. The performance of the system is quite good. We find
people produce composites other people recognise about 40% of the
time. When we give this to the pleas for far more -- for formal
field trials, we are getting an arrest rate of 40%. Briefly, the
beauty about this system is it is on your laptop, you can go to a
vulnerable person's home and do it there. Portable equipment. Just
time for a quick update. We have had some calls already on
one of today's cases, Robert Kerr, a possible sake -- sighting.
Per these are following up strong leads on another Wanted Face, Pawel
Jakub Koperski, wanting for drugs offences. Some possible sightings
of him. He a distinctive looking chap. Miriam, what are you up to
tomorrow? We're heading into Wales. For the
rest of the week, we're with Gwent and South Wales Police. Tomorrow,
we might get wet. The police diving team are joining us. Steve, it's
your last day with us. It's been a busy two days. It's been great
working with you here in my home patch. Let's just hope we get some
good leads on the cases. We featured the attack on an 83-year-
old man on the local news last night. Let's hope we catch somebody
for that. That's it from us. For more details