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Think about it, what would you do if you had a bad run of luck?

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The chances are that you'd end up turning to government agencies

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for a bit of help.

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I think we're very lucky to have a welfare state

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and I think a lot of people don't appreciate it.

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My husband is disabled. Without the benefits system

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we would have found things very difficult.

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Here in the UK millions of us need to ask for help every year

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in the form of benefits, Legal Aid and health care.

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But there are some people who are out there to cheat the system

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out of as much as they can.

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Benefit cheats are criminals and they should be treated accordingly.

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How are these people managing to get away with this?

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But those people who are trying to get rich from the public purse

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are now being sniffed out by investigators, who want to make

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sure that as much money as possible is available to those who need it.

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This is the world of Saints and Scroungers.

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Coming up, the scroungers who are out to beat the system.

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A woman who claimed thousands of pounds of benefits over

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nine years, claiming she was a single parent who needed help.

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The police and benefit officers attended this address.

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The door was answered by the alleged partner in his pyjamas.

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A scrounger whose council property was making her a mint,

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but who ended up paying the price.

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We received an anonymous call by the council's fraud hotline alleging

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that Miss Goatley wasn't actually living at her council property.

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And those who rightly deserve a helping hand.

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A man struck down

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with a debilitating and inexplicable illness

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discovers his life is about to change for ever.

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As I walked in he looked really startled,

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as though a stranger had just walked into the house.

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That really was quite a scary moment.

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Being a parent can be tough, even when there's two of you.

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But if one partner walks out

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and there's still a mortgage to pay, well, then it can be too much.

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Meet mother of three, Jacqueline Fox.

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In 2003 her partner left her.

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She began claiming benefits to keep a roof over her

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and her family's head.

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It was much-needed help, especially as she had a mortgage to pay.

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Jacqueline lived in Worthing, a large seaside town

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on the south coast. Popular with families and the retired,

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this six-mile-square corner of the country is home

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to around 100,000 people, 10,000 of whom are claiming housing benefit.

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Terry Cutler is a finance manager at Worthing Borough Council.

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Certainly 95% of claims are genuine.

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We never have a problem with them.

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People are honest. Benefits are aimed at the people who are deserving.

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They are for people who have fallen on hard times

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for one reason or another and genuinely need the help.

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There's about £250,000 worth of overpayments every year due to fraud.

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However, we do recover that money.

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So when you say there is a cost, there isn't one,

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because we get the money back.

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Jacqueline appeared to be a deserving case for support,

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but information in 2010 suggested that her relationship

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with her partner wasn't quite as rocky as she'd made out.

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Her case landed on the desk of fraud investigator Dave Barrow.

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Jacqueline Fox, as a single mother,

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is entitled on paper to income support, council tax benefit

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as a homeowner and also for the DWP to pay her mortgage interest.

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She could be made homeless

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if her mortgage interest repayments weren't kept up and therefore,

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as an income support claimant, she's entitled to help.

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Homeowners whose circumstances change,

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putting their properties at risk, are able to apply to

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the Department Of Work And Pensions safety net for help.

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But information passed to Worthing Council in 2010 cast doubt

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over Jacqueline Fox's claims.

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The investigation started as a result of an anonymous tip-off

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that her partner had returned to live at her address.

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That's an issue because obviously as a single mother, she is

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claiming benefits, not declaring a partner who is possibly working.

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If the tip-off held any weight it was unlikely Jacqueline would

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have been eligible to claim benefits from Worthing Council

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or the Department For Work And Pensions.

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Dave immediately dug out her file

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and went back over her claims forms dating back to 2003.

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She is accepting that she is giving the full,

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true and complete information on the form and she's also agreeing to

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notify any change of circumstance, such as a partner moving in.

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On page five she's declared the three children...

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On page six, which is her opportunity to declare any other

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adult living in the house, she's ticked no and left the page blank.

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If all the statements she made were correct, then she'd be entitled to

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all her benefits, to help her along a bit until she found her feet.

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It's vital that people report any change of circumstance to us.

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If their circumstances had got worse or they had got better

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and they are getting more income, then they could be accruing

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a large overpayment which they might have difficulty paying back.

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Her claim for benefit is based on the fact that she's declaring

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she is a lone mother with three children and with a very low income.

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And obviously if the evidence proved that there is a working partner

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living there, then obviously her benefit claim

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alters in its ingredients completely.

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Since her claims began, she'd received over £60,000

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in income support and around £7,000 in council tax benefit.

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But Jacqueline Fox's benefit claims were at complete odds

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with the information gathered from the anonymous tip-off.

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It's at times like this that investigators need to

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get to the heart of the matter.

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One of the tools they can use is of course surveillance,

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but it's time-consuming.

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Sometimes it's quicker and easier to take a journey

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through someone's finances and credit history.

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And with close to £67,000 at stake,

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Worthing Council got straight on to the case.

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The first thing we did to start the investigation was to conduct

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a credit search, which revealed that Mrs Fox had taken out a loan

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and had an undeclared bank account.

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Now, Jacqueline could just be saving a small amount of money for a

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rainy day and the loan could also potentially be explained, but the

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fact that she hadn't declared them rang alarm bells with the council.

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Dave was like a dog with a bone

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and dug deeper into Jacqueline's finances.

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Closer examination of the bank account showed that there were

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a series of credits over a period of time for three separate employments.

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So there was now the possibility that this supposedly single,

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unemployed mother of three was working.

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If true, it was yet another thing she'd neglected to tell the council.

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The credits that were coming into her account were not

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small change either.

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She was bringing in a very healthy £600 a week.

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The team needed to find out who was paying Jacqueline.

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We contacted the company that was paying the current credit,

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which is a roofing company, who were able to confirm that Mrs Fox

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was not their employee, but their employee was the alleged partner.

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So, Ms Fox and her partner's relationship is over,

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it's history.

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He's moved out and left her and the kids to fend for themselves.

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And yet he's still paying his wages into her bank account.

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It sounds like a very amicable break-up!

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Either her so-called partner was extremely generous

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or the tip-off was beginning to ring true.

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Next on the fraud team's list was to find out more about the loan

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that Jacqueline Fox had taken out.

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They were hoping it would shed more light into her finances

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and, even better, link her alleged partner to her address.

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The loan was for a small works-type vehicle

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which had been registered in her partner's name at her address.

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It links the partner to her address, and the fact that she had

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taken out the loan in her name, but it's his vehicle.

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DVLA records are just one of the many databases

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fraud investigators can access, so now Dave had established that

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Jacqueline's alleged partner has a car registered at her address.

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A car that she bought.

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This was either the most harmonious break-up of all time

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or there was some serious deception going on.

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We'll find out later if the council had enough to prove that she

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was living with her so-called ex.

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If the tip-off was proved to be correct,

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then Mrs Fox could face prosecution.

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For now, though, it's farewell to the scroungers trying to fleece

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the system and let's say hello to those we call our saints,

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people who do everything to make sure that those in need

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of help who are too proud or simply don't know how to help themselves,

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get what they deserve.

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Living with a disability can present many challenges,

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but you would hope that once it's clear what you're dealing with,

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people should recognise that and give you a break.

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Some conditions, however,

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don't conform to people's idea of what a disability is

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or how it should behave, and that can make life very tough.

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In 2008, father of two Paul Kay realised that the headaches

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he has always suffered from were taking a much more sinister turn.

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My migraines are something I've dealt with since I was a teenage lad.

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I've always been able to self-medicate it

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and bring it down to a level where I could work.

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I felt such immense pain on the opposite side

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of my head that the migraines are, and...

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I started forgetting things.

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Before he started losing his memory, Paul had been self-employed

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for many years as a traffic safety control officer, and was

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responsible for implementing safety measures for over 150 road workers.

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His steady income meant that he could afford to take his long-term

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partner Denise and their two children on holiday

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several times a year, something they all enjoyed.

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But as his migraines and memory loss developed,

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he was finding it harder and harder to continue working.

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When my illness started with me...

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I couldn't keep MYSELF safe.

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That is one of the fundamental parts of safety,

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who are you responsible for, safety-wise?

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You're responsible for yourself first and foremost.

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If I can't make sure I'M safe,

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how do I make sure everybody else is safe?

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When the severe pain and memory loss started,

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he was in the middle of a contract working on the M1 motorway.

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His bouts of memory loss

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and debilitating migraines were having a direct impact on his job.

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These developments came as a complete shock

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both to Paul and to Denise.

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When Paul was in that kind of situation, because he just...

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"I can't drive today." And Paul will always drive.

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Over the following months, Paul continued to work,

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but things were about to get much worse.

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I'd been at work all day and I came home

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and Paul was sat on the settee and he just kind of...

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As I walked in, he looked really startled,

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as though a stranger had just walked into the house.

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It was all very quick, but there was just that moment

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where he really didn't know who I was walking into our own home.

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So that...that was really quite a scary moment.

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It was a very upsetting moment

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because it was when I kind of realised

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how bad things were for him.

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I started asking myself... "What's wrong?"

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The mystery illness had pulled the rug from under Paul's feet.

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I've come to Chesterfield to hear more about the impact it was

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having on his day-to-day life.

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So you were feeling huge frustration.

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My migraines would... would basically...

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I could manage it and I could still work.

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The pains in my right...on my left side actually put me laid down.

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I couldn't physically...get up to go to work. I literally couldn't move.

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The pain was so immense.

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But it wasn't just the pain and the memory loss they had to cope with.

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The boys were noticing a difference in Paul.

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They were noticing that he was far...less with it, you know.

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Sometimes when they were asking him things Paul was quite vacant

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and vague in his answering of their questions.

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And things soon went from bad to worse.

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There was more kind of aggression, as well, you know.

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Not towards us, but out of frustration.

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It was quite scary for Paul, I'm sure.

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But it was also quite scary for us

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because we didn't know what was going on at all.

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Paul struggled to get to the end of the M1 contract

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and it was clear both to him

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and Denise that taking the next job was out of the question.

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It was high time they got to the bottom of what was wrong with Paul.

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When we first went to the doctor's, he ordered an MRI scan and a CT scan.

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When them scans come back, it showed nothing.

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I said to him, "Do you know what's wrong with my head?"

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"No. We may never know. We can only...sort the pain."

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Paul continued to suffer excruciating physical pain

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and bouts of complete memory loss.

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He couldn't work and was becoming increasingly withdrawn.

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During that time... I...I felt very, very ashamed.

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I felt embarrassed because I couldn't explain to people what it was.

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I felt...I felt a failure because I couldn't work.

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Denise was working as a part-time hypnotherapist.

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With just her salary coming in, the financial situation

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was becoming a major worry.

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How were things looking financially?

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Very, very...bleak.

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And we were basically fighting to keep our heads above water

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and trying to get our way through,

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hoping that I'm going to be at a point where I can go back to work.

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I class myself as an old-style gentleman. I provide for my family.

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I try to give my children better than what I got.

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Work isn't realistic for you now.

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-Certainly not doing the kind of work you were doing before.

-No.

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I was always looking backwards. How do I get back to work?

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How do I get BACK to normal?

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How do I get BACK to providing for my wife and kids?

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How do you... How do you move forward when you're looking back?

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What was your attitude to benefits before this happened to you?

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It's... It is only my opinion and nobody else's, I always felt that...

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if you had to claim something back you were a bit of a failure.

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Did you ever consider people that were in situations

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that were outside their control?

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Honestly, no. I didn't put it in that perspective as such.

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I realised that I'd got no option other than going down that road,

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because I was...I'd got the doctors giving me a sick note.

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We must have gone about four months of nothing, me trying to get

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back to it, that...

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I was admitting failure by having to go there.

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After eight long months, Paul had to forget about his pride

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and admit he needed help.

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He started to claim what he was rightfully entitled to -

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employment and support allowance.

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I think that was one of the things that really kind of brought him

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down even more, because he has always been proud

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of the fact that he worked and he's not claimed.

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He's never sort of given in at all to any illness.

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He's just gone through it before.

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And this was something completely new to him.

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Even though the benefits were helping with the immediate

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financial need, it never seemed enough.

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The household finances were looking bleak and,

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over the next two years, Paul started to show signs of depression.

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We'll see later how a new member of the family changed everything.

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His mood lifted. It lifted no end.

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You could see it in his face, definitely,

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he was a happier person to be around, completely.

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Now, from those in need of help to those who abuse the very same

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system to take money they are not entitled to.

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We all want to see fraudsters get their comeuppance, but while

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a prison sentence sends a very strong message,

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if they've made money from what they've done,

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well, it doesn't seem fair that they should keep it.

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That's when the Proceeds Of Crime Act comes into play.

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The Proceeds Of Crime Act 2002 was brought into play particularly

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to deprive criminals of the assets that they have

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gained as a result of their offending behaviour -

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such as houses, property, land, vehicles, jewellery, money -

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away from people who have committed offences.

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We're going to take a look at how the fraud investigators

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have been working hard to take back the money these criminals

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have stolen from you and me, the taxpayer.

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Meet Kelly Goatley.

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She first approached the council back in 2000,

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stating she was pregnant, homeless and in need of a council property.

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The council considered her application and because of her age -

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she was only 18 at the time - and the pregnancy,

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she was considered to be in high priority need to be housed.

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The council granted her social housing, a one-bed

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Georgian terrace in a rather desirable part of west London,

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at a rent of just £440 per month.

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But 11 years later, some worrying information came to light.

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John Noble, of Westminster Council, was on her tail.

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At the end of January 2011,

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we received an anonymous call via the council's fraud hotline,

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alleging that Miss Goatley

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wasn't actually living at her council property.

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On the basis of the allegation, I carried out some background checks.

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To all intents and purposes it looked as though Kelly was still there.

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There was no information that she'd moved elsewhere.

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Nothing to say that she'd told the council she'd moved out.

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Nothing to say that she'd sought permission to have lodgers

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or subtenants in the property.

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But John needed to find out if this anonymous tip-off held any weight,

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so he paid Miss Goatley a visit.

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In early February 2011,

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myself and a colleague actually visited

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the property in Gloucester Terrace, knocked on the door

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and we were admitted into the property by a young Spanish couple.

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They told us that they were

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renting the property from a landlady named Kelly Goatley,

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and they actually showed us a copy of a tenancy agreement.

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As far as they were concerned, they were paying the full market rate

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for the property, and they were renting from a genuine landlord.

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They were doing nothing wrong. They were just innocent victims here.

0:20:500:20:54

It turned out that Kelly had been letting out the property

0:20:540:20:57

over the years for between £1,200 and £1,400 a month.

0:20:570:21:01

John and his team got straight into action.

0:21:020:21:05

We instructed the estate office to commence civil recovery action

0:21:050:21:10

to get the property back, to formally evict Miss Goatley so that

0:21:100:21:14

the property could be reallocated to someone in genuine need.

0:21:140:21:17

It was time for Kelly to do some explaining,

0:21:170:21:20

so John got her in for an interview under caution.

0:21:200:21:24

Miss Goatley denied that she had sublet the property

0:21:240:21:26

purely for profit or personal gain.

0:21:260:21:29

She denied that she'd been living at an alternative address

0:21:290:21:32

throughout the entire period.

0:21:320:21:34

Following the interview with Miss Goatley, a review of the further

0:21:340:21:37

evidence that she had provided to support her claim, it was decided

0:21:370:21:41

that we had enough evidence to take the matter forward to prosecute.

0:21:410:21:45

So I put together a prosecution file.

0:21:450:21:48

Despite her protestations of innocence,

0:21:480:21:51

John and his team had enough hard evidence to take Goatley to court.

0:21:510:21:55

And by the time the date came round, she had decided to come clean.

0:21:550:21:59

Miss Goatley was summonsed to court

0:21:590:22:01

and entered guilty pleas for both offences.

0:22:010:22:03

In July 2012, she was sentenced to nine months in prison

0:22:030:22:07

for each offence, suspended for two years.

0:22:070:22:09

She was also ordered to carry out 140 hours of unpaid community work

0:22:090:22:13

as well as being handed a curfew between 10pm and 7am for two months.

0:22:130:22:20

She was also ordered to pay £2,000 towards prosecution costs.

0:22:200:22:24

It was a great result for Westminster Council,

0:22:260:22:29

but the investigations team weren't about to stop there.

0:22:290:22:32

What about the profit she'd made over the last 11 years?

0:22:320:22:36

She had paid the council £440 a month for the flat,

0:22:360:22:40

but she'd rented it out for up to £1,400.

0:22:400:22:43

That was a cool profit of £960 a month.

0:22:430:22:47

The Proceeds Of Crime Act provides that fraud investigators

0:22:500:22:54

can seek to recover all profits from criminal activity,

0:22:540:22:56

and the team at Westminster wanted what was rightfully theirs.

0:22:560:23:00

On the same day as the sentencing, the council applied for

0:23:020:23:05

a confiscation order to seek to recover as much as possible of the money that

0:23:050:23:09

Miss Goatley had fraudulently obtained through subletting her property.

0:23:090:23:13

Kelly was ordered to declare all of her assets,

0:23:130:23:16

and it was up to John to work out just how much she'd swindled.

0:23:160:23:19

Where possible, we'd always seek to recover the value of the fraud,

0:23:190:23:26

so we'd try to identify any assets,

0:23:260:23:28

whether that's undeclared savings, undeclared bank accounts,

0:23:280:23:32

other assets that could be sold to pay the council back the loss.

0:23:320:23:37

The team started digging around in her bank accounts,

0:23:380:23:41

trying to find evidence of any assets, but getting Kelly

0:23:410:23:45

to declare everything and cough up wasn't going to be easy.

0:23:450:23:48

During the course of the investigation,

0:23:500:23:52

I had become aware that Miss Goatley had a bank account that she

0:23:520:23:55

hadn't declared, so I focused my attention on trying to determine

0:23:550:23:58

whether there was money in that account that we could seize.

0:23:580:24:01

Just days before Miss Goatley's first court appearance,

0:24:010:24:04

approximately £11,000 had been withdrawn from that account.

0:24:040:24:08

Clearly this indicated that Miss Goatley may well have been

0:24:080:24:11

attempting to hide proceeds of her criminal activity.

0:24:110:24:15

Not only had Kelly illegally made huge profits over the years, she was

0:24:170:24:21

now trying to hide her cash to avoid paying back a single penny of it.

0:24:210:24:25

And she wasn't doing herself any favours with the fraud team.

0:24:250:24:29

With a lack of any assets or proof of cash anywhere,

0:24:290:24:32

John had to claim for the cash he knew had been

0:24:320:24:36

in her undeclared bank account just days before sentencing.

0:24:360:24:39

The judge ordered that Miss Goatley should repay the council

0:24:390:24:43

under a compensation order a total of £10,774.

0:24:430:24:46

Currently, Miss Goatley hasn't paid a penny

0:24:480:24:50

towards this confiscation order.

0:24:500:24:53

If she fails to do so, and fails to pay it in full by 30 September 2013,

0:24:530:24:58

she will face six months in prison

0:24:580:25:01

and still be liable to pay the full amount of the confiscation order.

0:25:010:25:05

At the end of the day, Westminster will not tolerate the illegal

0:25:070:25:10

subletting of council properties,

0:25:100:25:12

particularly by those individuals looking to make a quick profit

0:25:120:25:15

at the expense of those in genuine need of social housing.

0:25:150:25:18

So, Miss Goatley faces some stark choices.

0:25:180:25:21

Maybe she'll do the right thing and pay up.

0:25:210:25:24

It's time to leave the deceitful world of fakes and frauds,

0:25:360:25:40

and turn our attention to people that need the welfare state.

0:25:400:25:43

Paul Kay lost his job and his confidence

0:25:450:25:48

when he suddenly developed severe headaches and memory loss.

0:25:480:25:51

His condition remained undiagnosed,

0:25:510:25:53

and his prospect of finding work again was looking slim.

0:25:530:25:56

I'm very, very frustrated, because I want to know what's wrong with me.

0:25:580:26:03

I want to know what's been hurting me for three and a half years.

0:26:030:26:07

Paul had been forced to leave work, and reluctantly claim

0:26:080:26:11

employment and support allowance to help pay the bills.

0:26:110:26:15

Paul was starting to show signs of depression,

0:26:150:26:17

and his long-term partner Denise was desperate for ideas that might

0:26:170:26:21

improve a very difficult situation.

0:26:210:26:23

With Paul being so poorly,

0:26:250:26:28

I just suggested that we think about getting a puppy.

0:26:280:26:32

We had always said we would like a dog at some stage,

0:26:320:26:36

but when Paul was working, we felt that it wasn't fair to have

0:26:360:26:43

a dog if it was going to be left alone a lot.

0:26:430:26:46

Paul's lifelong love of dogs had triggered the idea to get

0:26:480:26:51

an addition to the household, a springer spaniel pup.

0:26:510:26:55

So, Denise, out of the blue into your lives drops Woody.

0:26:550:27:00

And what effect does that springer spaniel have on Paul?

0:27:000:27:05

It brought this interest back.

0:27:050:27:07

It brought a bit of spark back to his personality.

0:27:070:27:10

He went from being very down in the dumps to having a purpose again.

0:27:100:27:15

He was teaching his dog, our dog, how to be an obedient

0:27:150:27:19

and loving family pet.

0:27:190:27:23

And he really did kind of work out a kind of programme, if you like, of

0:27:230:27:27

how he was going to train Woody, and that was quite impressive, as well.

0:27:270:27:32

I love training dogs. I've had dogs all my life.

0:27:320:27:34

Each day gave me a new challenge to deal with Woody.

0:27:340:27:41

And I thoroughly threw myself into them challenges.

0:27:430:27:47

Woody, look at me.

0:27:470:27:50

Paul was still frustrated he was not able to work

0:27:520:27:55

and was forced to claim benefits, but Woody was suddenly bringing

0:27:550:27:58

an overwhelming degree of structure and positivity into his life.

0:27:580:28:02

He'd always had a passion for dogs,

0:28:020:28:05

and his father had taught him how to train them when he was younger.

0:28:050:28:08

This gave Denise an idea.

0:28:080:28:09

So when did this start turning into an idea for a new direction,

0:28:110:28:16

a new career for Paul?

0:28:160:28:18

Sometimes I would take Woody to the local park, and often if we were out

0:28:180:28:25

in the park, people would comment to me on how well-behaved he was.

0:28:250:28:31

Because he was still quite a young pup.

0:28:310:28:33

People would say, "Oh, he's so good."

0:28:330:28:36

And I would say, "I can't take credit for it.

0:28:360:28:39

"It's not me, it's Paul." And then it sort of began to take over

0:28:390:28:44

a little bit in my head about the fact that,

0:28:440:28:47

if he can do so well with our dog, perhaps that's

0:28:470:28:50

something that he could get into and earn a bit of money from.

0:28:500:28:54

On their next routine trip to the job centre,

0:28:560:28:58

Paul and Denise mentioned it to the adviser,

0:28:580:29:01

who thought it sounded like a great idea.

0:29:010:29:03

The couple were put in touch with an organisation called

0:29:050:29:08

Disability Dynamics, who specialise in offering support for disabled

0:29:080:29:13

and disadvantaged people through business start-up programmes.

0:29:130:29:17

Paul was assigned business adviser Nicky Tomlinson-Murphy.

0:29:170:29:21

When I first met Paul, he was really low, really down.

0:29:210:29:25

A guy who'd always worked, always had a really good job,

0:29:250:29:29

and now he was in a situation where he was at home and not being

0:29:290:29:32

able to support that family, which is a huge thing, absolutely huge.

0:29:320:29:36

And it was just, you know, let's have a look at what we can do and

0:29:360:29:39

start and build his confidence again, because he thought he was worthless.

0:29:390:29:45

I'm sure he thought, "I don't want to be like this, but what can I do?"

0:29:450:29:51

Nicky specialises in helping disadvantaged people

0:29:510:29:54

set up their own businesses.

0:29:540:29:56

And with her knowledge and support, there was

0:29:560:29:58

a real possibility that Paul's business plan

0:29:580:30:01

could become a reality.

0:30:010:30:03

I thought Paul would be successful with his business idea

0:30:030:30:06

because of his passion that he had, um, for the dog training.

0:30:060:30:10

Um, and as... You know,

0:30:100:30:12

it is something that he's already been involved in,

0:30:120:30:15

from being a young boy.

0:30:150:30:17

At the end of the day, he had all the knowledge

0:30:170:30:19

and he just needed that support and someone to give him the confidence

0:30:190:30:24

to help him move it forward.

0:30:240:30:26

Helping Paul was made easier for me, from the perspective that we share

0:30:260:30:31

'a passion for animals.'

0:30:310:30:33

Sit down then. Sit down. Great.

0:30:330:30:34

Sit down. Sit.

0:30:340:30:36

Mine are not as well-behaved as Paul's.

0:30:380:30:41

Hey, good fella.

0:30:410:30:43

Because I'd been out of self-employment

0:30:430:30:46

for 3½ years,

0:30:460:30:49

Nicky explained to me the other things that I needed to do.

0:30:490:30:53

And one of the first things she tackled was getting

0:30:530:30:55

Paul off employment and support allowance,

0:30:550:30:58

something HE was determined not to claim.

0:30:580:31:01

In Paul's situation, we were able to help him

0:31:010:31:04

compile his business plan for the forthcoming year,

0:31:040:31:07

which enabled him to apply for

0:31:070:31:09

a return to work credit with the Jobcentre.

0:31:090:31:12

Not only that, Nicky secured him a £2,000 grant,

0:31:120:31:17

a much-needed cash injection that Paul could spend on

0:31:170:31:20

equipment he needed to start up his new dog-training enterprise.

0:31:200:31:24

In conjunction to the return to work credit,

0:31:240:31:29

I was also able to put him in touch with a local organisation that,

0:31:290:31:33

at that time, was providing grant money to help start-up businesses.

0:31:330:31:37

And that helped him get some equipment

0:31:370:31:40

and get his marketing materials printed up.

0:31:400:31:43

Did you start to see a change in him?

0:31:430:31:46

Once he started to focus on

0:31:460:31:48

the possibility of getting his own business going -

0:31:480:31:51

dog training - his mood lifted. It lifted no end.

0:31:510:31:54

He was much more pleasant to be around again.

0:31:540:31:58

In June 2012,

0:32:000:32:01

with some help from Nicky, Paul was able to follow his dream.

0:32:010:32:05

Four years after he'd been forced to stop work,

0:32:050:32:08

he opened up his own business - Chesterfield Dog Training.

0:32:080:32:11

From the first time that I saw Paul -

0:32:130:32:15

as I mentioned, he was head in his hands -

0:32:150:32:19

always used to meet me...

0:32:190:32:21

when I went to see him, it was always Paul and Denise.

0:32:210:32:23

Um, but now,

0:32:230:32:25

you know, I'll ring up and say,

0:32:250:32:27

"Right, Paul, we need to have a catch-up."

0:32:270:32:29

"Yeah, when are you coming, Nicky?

0:32:290:32:30

"I'll get the kettle on. Me and Woody'll be here."

0:32:300:32:32

Um, and it's just Paul now, you know?

0:32:320:32:35

So, right from the beginning, it was always Paul and Denise,

0:32:350:32:39

whereas now, he's got his confidence

0:32:390:32:41

and it's just the two of us now in a meeting.

0:32:410:32:44

And just to see him... Oh, he's such a changed person.

0:32:440:32:47

He really is a changed person and he's full of enthusiasm.

0:32:470:32:51

And that's great to see. It's fantastic to see.

0:32:510:32:54

Makes my job just so worthwhile.

0:32:540:32:57

'I've popped along to see him in action

0:32:570:32:59

'with one of his regular clients, Christina.'

0:32:590:33:02

-So this is the business?

-It certainly is.

0:33:020:33:05

This beats the motorway for sure.

0:33:050:33:06

There you go, Christina.

0:33:080:33:09

If we do it like we said. Walk out...

0:33:090:33:11

'Paul specialises in training gun dogs.

0:33:110:33:14

'He focuses on training the owners as well as the dogs

0:33:140:33:17

'and he already has dozens of clients.'

0:33:170:33:20

The only question is, how you've not ended up doing this from the start?

0:33:210:33:27

I mean, this is your natural environment, isn't it, Paul?

0:33:270:33:29

It's my love. It's my passion.

0:33:290:33:32

Never ever did I dream that one day I would be stood in

0:33:320:33:37

this environment, laughing and smiling about work!

0:33:370:33:41

You know,

0:33:410:33:42

I don't know whether you believe in destiny, or things like that,

0:33:420:33:46

but to be stood here on this hillside,

0:33:460:33:48

you know, with that dog of yours, it almost makes you feel like

0:33:480:33:51

something was meant to change at some point to allow you to do this.

0:33:510:33:55

All I'm pleased about is that now,

0:33:550:33:57

through help from Disability Dynamics,

0:33:570:34:00

my health's getting better, my pain is still there at times,

0:34:000:34:04

but who can't feel nice when they're up here?

0:34:040:34:08

'The person that made all of this possible has also come along

0:34:090:34:12

'to see Paul in action.'

0:34:120:34:14

-Hi, Matt, nice to meet you. All right?

-Is it warm enough for you?

0:34:150:34:18

It's a little bit warm today, isn't it?

0:34:180:34:20

-What do you think of that, what he's doing over there?

-Oh, fantastic.

0:34:200:34:23

Absolutely fantastic.

0:34:230:34:25

For you, I mean, it's as much your dream and your career

0:34:250:34:29

that's tied up in this as it is Paul being able to do what he can.

0:34:290:34:34

From initially meeting Paul to seeing what he's doing now,

0:34:340:34:37

it's just amazing.

0:34:370:34:38

As you can see, off he goes, tail wagging.

0:34:380:34:42

CHRISTINA WHISTLES

0:34:430:34:44

And...come running back.

0:34:440:34:47

And presenting it nicely. Lovely.

0:34:480:34:51

-DENISE:

-'I think Paul is much happier in life now.'

0:34:510:34:55

He certainly seems it.

0:34:550:34:57

He...

0:34:570:34:59

He just really seems to be a different person again.

0:34:590:35:05

I've seen him working

0:35:050:35:06

and you can tell he absolutely throws himself into it. He loves it.

0:35:060:35:11

'I'm so privileged'

0:35:110:35:13

to be at the position now where I enjoy my family.

0:35:130:35:17

I enjoy my friends again.

0:35:170:35:20

I had to go through

0:35:200:35:21

to be able to get to this stage of my life where I am now.

0:35:210:35:25

Paul had a job that he thought defined him.

0:35:320:35:34

He was good at it and he enjoyed it.

0:35:340:35:37

But then, along came the diagnosis

0:35:370:35:39

which meant he wasn't going to be doing that job any more.

0:35:390:35:43

It almost broke him. But now, with a lot of help,

0:35:430:35:47

he's in a much better place.

0:35:470:35:48

Time now to return to the deceitful world of our greedy scroungers.

0:35:530:35:57

Worthing Council fraud investigators

0:35:590:36:02

are looking into the case of Jacqueline Fox.

0:36:020:36:05

On her claim forms, she purported to be a single mother

0:36:060:36:09

raising three kids, needing support from the council and the DWP.

0:36:090:36:13

But the investigators received a tip-off alleging that

0:36:130:36:17

her partner, who'd left the house in 2003, had moved back in.

0:36:170:36:22

We don't consider this to be a mistake because she's signed

0:36:220:36:25

a declaration saying she's given the true and complete facts.

0:36:250:36:29

Over a period of seven years, she'd claimed

0:36:290:36:31

around £67,000 in benefits from the Department for Work and Pensions

0:36:310:36:35

and Worthing Council.

0:36:350:36:38

but the team had already discovered two things.

0:36:380:36:40

Firstly, that her

0:36:400:36:41

supposedly ex-partner's wages were going into her bank account

0:36:410:36:45

and that she'd bought him a car,

0:36:450:36:48

which was registered at her address.

0:36:480:36:50

Now they needed to find proof that the tip-off held weight

0:36:500:36:53

and that her partner had moved back in with Jacqueline.

0:36:530:36:57

Dave and his team had enough evidence to justify a raid.

0:36:570:37:00

So they immediately drafted in the police.

0:37:000:37:02

We tend to get the police involved when we have a potentially

0:37:020:37:04

serious benefit fraud which involves a large amount of public funds.

0:37:040:37:09

And the police have, obviously, a power of arrest

0:37:090:37:12

and a power of search which assists us greatly.

0:37:120:37:16

In June 2011, police and Worthing Council

0:37:180:37:21

conducted an early morning raid at Ms Fox's house.

0:37:210:37:25

We were hoping that we would find

0:37:250:37:27

further documentational evidence within the house.

0:37:270:37:29

The raid was the only chance the team had

0:37:290:37:32

of getting hold of hard evidence

0:37:320:37:34

that Jacqueline's partner lived with her

0:37:340:37:36

and brought an income into the household.

0:37:360:37:38

Police and benefit officers attended this address, knocked on the door

0:37:380:37:45

the door was answered by the alleged partner in his pyjamas,

0:37:450:37:50

who to the officer said, "I'm only visiting."

0:37:500:37:53

So, Ms Fox's partner denied living there,

0:37:530:37:56

despite being in his pyjamas.

0:37:560:38:00

Police immediately found what they were looking for.

0:38:000:38:03

The raid was very successful.

0:38:030:38:04

Photographs were taken of the evidence.

0:38:040:38:06

Certain documents were seized

0:38:060:38:07

and there were photographs within the house,

0:38:070:38:09

men's clothing in the wardrobe -

0:38:090:38:12

plenty of instances of male occupation in the house.

0:38:120:38:16

Well, we were very happy with... It was a multi-agency raid.

0:38:160:38:21

The police, the Department for Work and Pensions

0:38:210:38:23

and ourselves raided the property

0:38:230:38:25

and found exactly what we expected to find,

0:38:250:38:28

which is two people living together and breaking the benefit rules.

0:38:280:38:32

If it wasn't enough proof that her partner answered the door,

0:38:320:38:36

they also found Jacqueline's partner's passport

0:38:360:38:39

and other documentation,

0:38:390:38:40

which proved he'd been living there permanently.

0:38:400:38:43

With overwhelming evidence,

0:38:430:38:45

Jacqueline Fox and her partner were arrested.

0:38:450:38:47

It was about time that Jacqueline explained herself

0:38:470:38:50

and Dave got her straight in for an interview under caution.

0:38:500:38:54

At the police station, both parties where interviewed by benefit offices.

0:38:540:38:58

Mrs Fox basically denied the allegation

0:38:580:39:01

and made a prepared statement

0:39:010:39:03

to the effect that her partner

0:39:030:39:06

had moved out in 2003,

0:39:060:39:09

which is why she claimed the benefits. But that thereafter,

0:39:090:39:12

he had come and stayed at periods of time,

0:39:120:39:15

but she was unable to give exact dates

0:39:150:39:17

or for how long these periods of time were.

0:39:170:39:20

This explanation would have been all right

0:39:200:39:22

if there wasn't evidence already obtained, that he was living at

0:39:220:39:25

the premises permanently, and all the time.

0:39:250:39:27

So they'd proved that Jacqueline was living with her partner

0:39:270:39:31

and they knew he was working. But the team didn't stop there,

0:39:310:39:34

they'd also gathered evidence that proved

0:39:340:39:37

her financial profile just didn't add up.

0:39:370:39:40

We conducted a financial assessment of her bank accounts,

0:39:400:39:44

which showed that her expenditure

0:39:440:39:46

greatly exceeded her benefit income.

0:39:460:39:49

That suggested that she had undeclared income,

0:39:490:39:52

which she had not told us about.

0:39:520:39:55

Dave could prove she'd lied to gain benefits.

0:39:550:39:58

He had an undeclared bank account

0:39:580:40:00

with her partner's wages going into it every week,

0:40:000:40:02

a vehicle she'd bought for him,

0:40:020:40:05

registered at her address, and evidence that he lived there.

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Now her partner was in no way involved with the actual fraud,

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but after nine years of playing the system,

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it was time for Jacqueline's day in court.

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Not only did we find the evidence,

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not only did we have a successful raid,

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but we convinced Mrs Fox that she should plead guilty in court

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and therefore save a great deal of money in the prosecution.

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She was convinced that we had the evidence against her.

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In May 2012, Jacqueline Fox pleaded guilty to

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seven counts of benefit fraud.

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The judge sentenced Mrs Fox to 52 weeks in prison

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but suspended it for two years on condition that she

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completed 120 hours' community work.

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But what about all the money that she'd fraudulently claimed?

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Nine years of cheating the system meant that Jacqueline Fox

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ended up being ordered to pay back a whopping £65,000

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to the Department for Work and Pensions and Worthing Council.

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And they didn't stop there.

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She was also forced to pay £9,000 for court costs.

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It was a great result.

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Fox had been caught out. There was only one way

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she could pay up. She had to sell her house.

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The fraud team at Worthing once again sprung into action.

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The council were going to apply for a confiscation order

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so that Mrs Fox could not sell her house without the monies

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being repaid to the necessary authorities.

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However it was established that she already had the house on the market,

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so rather than do a confiscation order,

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a block was put on the Land Registry,

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which means that she could not sell the house without first paying

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the Department of Work and Pensions and the council back the monies

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from the proceeds.

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It can take up to ten years to get the money back in some cases

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because the people we're trying to

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get it back from haven't got that much.

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She repaid the Department for Work and Pensions

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over £59,000 and the council in excess of £7,000.

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So having ensured Ms Fox couldn't run off with

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the proceeds of her house sale,

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Worthing's fraud team and the Department for Work and Pensions

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got back every single penny that she'd fraudulently claimed.

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'I would say it's a very dangerous game to play.

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'We have huge amounts of information coming in to us

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'and I don't think many people get away with it.'

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You will pay a heavy price for trying to cheat the Government.

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So, the "fantastic" Mrs Fox wasn't cunning enough to escape

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the fraud investigators.

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They tracked her down and forced her to repay every penny

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she owed back into the public purse.

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