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In the UK, most of us work hard and pay our taxes. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Most people basically, intrinsically, won't fiddle. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Everyone should contribute | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
towards the services we expect in this country. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
And we generally agree that it's right | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
that a proportion of what you earn should go into a pot | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
that's there to help you should you need it. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
But that money doesn't always find its way to the right people. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Those on a middle income pay their tax, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
so why shouldn't those that earn more money do the same? | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
I get very angry about people cheating - | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
because that's what it is, isn't it? | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
There are big changes taking place in the welfare system | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
here in the UK. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
And now it's more important than ever that the right help | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
gets to the right people. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
This is the world of Saints & Scroungers. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Coming up, the scroungers out to cheat the system. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Customs officials uncover a company's devious plot | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
to avoid paying millions of pounds of tax. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
We targeted three containers from China | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
when they arrived, and two of them were covertly searched. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:16 | |
And a man who claimed he was disabled, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
but still managed to get across three corners of the country | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
to claim three different loads of benefits. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
We had evidence that Mr Mooney had benefited to at least | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
the sum of £185,000. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
Then there are those in need of a helping hand. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
A man determined to earn his own living, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
despite being born with an unpredictable condition | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
that can hospitalise him for weeks at a time. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I felt like my body was lifeless. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
This time, I thought definitely this was it. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
It goes without saying | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
that some of the things you see on a stall like this | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
won't have been grown in the UK. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
They have to be imported. And import and export | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
makes the global economy go round. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
But depending on what you bring in or take out of the country, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
it can change how much tax you have to pay. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
So import/exporters, when it comes to tax, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
really have to know their onions. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Import duty's one of a number of taxes | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
the UK Government levies to help pay for the vital services | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
we all rely on. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
And the HMRC takes tax evasion very seriously. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
We estimate that the hidden economy and tax evasion | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
costs the UK about £9 billion every year. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
And it's important people pay what's due when it's due, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
so that we can keep the economy going. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
It's as simple as that. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
58-year old Murugasan Natarajan from West Drayton in Middlesex | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
ran an importing company called Perfect Imports and Export, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
which was based at Brent Park Industrial Estate in London. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
And as an importer, he would have been aware that duty has to be paid | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
on certain goods that are brought in from outside the European Union. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
Peter Millroy's the Assistant Director | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
of Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs' Criminal Investigation Unit. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
It's important to pay duty. One, to generate income from the Exchequer | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
and two, to assist in balancing out and creating a fair playing field | 0:03:16 | 0:03:22 | |
for EU manufacturers as well. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
So if people import goods and don't pay the duty, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
if it is their intention not to pay the duty, to avoid paying it, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
then that's a criminal offence. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
And at that stage, HMRC will investigate | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
and potentially prosecute. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
And they could face a significant prison sentence. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
HMRC has a list of all the goods you need to pay duty on. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
And in 2001, garlic was added to it. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
The import duty was introduced | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
in order to protect the growers of garlic within the EU, | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
because it can be grown much more cheaply in China | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
and elsewhere in the world. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
A 9.6% duty was imposed on fresh and chilled garlic. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
But a couple of years ago, the European Anti-Fraud Office | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
received some intelligence about the price of garlic on the streets being surprisingly low. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
The issue really was around the price it was being sold at | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
and whether that was economic once you'd paid the import duty. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
In other words, was there any profit left in it? | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
Surely no-one would want to sell garlic too cheaply | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
to make any profit? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
Alarm bells were ringing. Was this a potential smuggling ring? | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
With this in the back of their minds, | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
Customs officials were on the lookout for anything suspicious | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
amongst companies who import garlic into the UK. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
Perfect Imports and Exports was one of a number | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
of companies importing garlic. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
And the issue first came to our attention in August of 2010, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:56 | |
when an importation arrived of garlic from China, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
which was decided should be examined. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
At the time it was examined, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
the declaration was that there was something in the region of 18 tonnes of garlic in the container. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
Now, it's well known by those at the ports | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
who deal with these kind of goods | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
that a full container is something like 26 tonnes. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
It seemed strange to the port officials in Felixstowe | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
that Perfect Imports and Exports | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
would be bringing a container all the way from China | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
which was only two-thirds full. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
HMRC has a number of criminal investigators, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
who, due to the nature of their activities, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
prefer to remain anonymous. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
As soon as they realised that the container was going to be examined, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
an amended entry was submitted to declare the goods at about 26 tonnes. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:49 | |
Which meant that Perfect had to pay | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
a further £9,000-worth of duty. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Officers then allowed the load to continue | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
and they got their goods. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
So, Perfect Imports and Exports passed it off as an admin error, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
and as they paid the outstanding duty quickly, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
no further action was taken. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
From speaking to the staff at the port | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
and discussing the 8-tonne discrepancy with this container, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:19 | |
it can be common for discrepancies to happen | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
and it's just a genuine mistake. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
But Perfect Imports and Exports were now on the HMRC's radar | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
and a month later, another container of garlic arrived at 18 tonnes. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
On this occasion, like before, it was selected for an examination. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
The difference on this occasion was that there was no amended entry | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
and therefore there was a full examination of that container. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
It was calculated that it weighed 25 tonnes. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
And that's around another £9,000 in undeclared duty. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
The company used the same defence again - | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
it was an admin error. They paid the extra duty | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
and the container was released to them. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
But the Customs officers were now keeping an even closer eye on what the company was doing | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
and over the next six months, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
noticed that they appeared to stop importing garlic from their Chinese suppliers completely. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
At the time, we didn't really know what to think | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
of the fact that they weren't declaring any more garlic. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
We just continued to monitor what they were bringing in. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:34 | |
We noticed that their ginger declarations | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
had dramatically increased - fivefold - | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
so effectively, there were up to 50 containers of ginger declared. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
Garlic...and ginger. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
They're completely different. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
But not just in the way they taste and smell. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:57 | |
You see, if you want to import garlic, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
you have to pay an EU duty. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
If you import ginger...nothing. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
The investigators were starting to smell something | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
a little bit strange. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
We had a suspicion that there was something wrong | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
with the ginger imports. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
And we started to look at lots of port information data | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
and shipping line information | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
to try and understand exactly what was going on. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
This document is what they refer to as a plain paper entry. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:36 | |
It shows all of the information linked to this particular container. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:42 | |
You've got where it's from, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
the bill of lading number, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
the weight | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
and the fact that the description of the goods is ginger. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
But what's important | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
is that for this particular container of ginger, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
the temperature of the container | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
was minus three degrees. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
And we know that ginger doesn't get shipped | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
at minus three, because it would be absolutely ruined once it arrives. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
It led us to believe | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
that it wasn't actually ginger - in fact, it was garlic | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
that was being mis-declared. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
Now, if it had been ginger, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
then a three-week trip from China at minus three degrees | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
rather than the warmer 12 degrees Centigrade | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
would have meant the entire container was ruined. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
Surely the company wouldn't make that mistake. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
Once maybe, but not 50 times. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Because that was the number of containers the investigators | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
believed were suspicious. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
The money that they've avoided by declaring garlic as ginger | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
meant that every tonne, they were saving £1,000-worth of duty. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:56 | |
Now, if every container is, say, 26 tonnes, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
that's £26,000-worth of duty, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
and it's actually more than that per container. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Now, if you add that up, it comes to almost £1.4 million, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
just on those 50 containers. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
And remember, that's all money that should have been going towards | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
paying for schools, hospitals and other crucial services. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
This was potentially becoming a very serious crime indeed. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
We'll find out later if the team can actually prove any wrongdoing. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
For now, though, it's goodbye to the scroungers | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
who are dodging their dues, and hello to those we call our saints - | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
people who do everything to make sure that those in need | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
get what they deserve. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Living with a disability comes with plenty of challenges, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
but you would hope that once it's clear what you're dealing with, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
people would recognise that | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
and give you a bit of a break. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
However, there are some conditions | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
that don't conform to the idea of what a disability should look like | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
and how it should behave. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
And that can make life very tough. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
And one disorder that doesn't follow the norm is sickle cell. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
It's estimated that around 12,500 people in Britain | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
have sickle cell anaemia. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
But it's largely an invisible condition | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
and many people don't really understand it. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
A genetic blood disorder, it's most common in people | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
of African and Caribbean descent. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
People who are affected by sickle cell | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
have an abnormality of the haemoglobin in their blood. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
This sort of haemoglobin causes the red blood cells | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
to change from a round shape to a banana shape, a sickle. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
That's where it gets its name from. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
And when blood is flowing through their bodies, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
it starts getting stuck, like a traffic jam - | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
it's not reaching all parts of their body. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
This causes immense pain, known as a crisis, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
that can hospitalise them for weeks on end. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
And it's not just the pain that sufferers have to worry about. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
With vital organs being starved of oxygen, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
this can cause long-term damage, strokes | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and lower life expectancy. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
34-year-old Ade from London lives with the condition. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
When the crises start, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
your whole body shuts down. You can't move. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
Even to grab the phone to call the ambulance is very difficult. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
Even to walk to the bathroom, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
it stops you, because your body is in pain. You can't stand up. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
You know, everything is weak and you just feel like... | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
You feel like your life is about to end. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
Ade's mother discovered before her son was born | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
that he had the condition. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
When I was pregnant with Ade, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
they took my blood and checked it | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
and they realised he's going to have sickle cell anaemia. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
And I was advised to terminate the pregnancy. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
Ade's mother couldn't bear the thought of an abortion, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
so despite being told her child could only live for one year, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
she continued with the pregnancy. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
The first year, it wasn't too bad. The second year, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
he started having little crises. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
And, um... | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
But I was lucky, because I'm a nurse, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
so I have an idea how to look after him. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
But it was not easy. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
Growing up with sickle cell and the agony it sometimes brings | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
was hard for Ade, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:31 | |
and sometimes he got his family to help ease the pain. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Back then, if I'm having a crisis, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
like if I have a pain in my leg, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
I used to ask my younger brother | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
to sit on my leg to put pressure on the pain to just try... | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
So that the pain does not spread. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
So he will sit in that position for a long time until I feel better. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:54 | |
Ade had a difficult childhood, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
involving long absences from school due to his illness. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
But sickle cell doesn't just bring physical pain. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Emotionally, it can be hard to deal with too. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
I don't want people to treat me differently. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
I know I have sickle cell, you know. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
I just want to feel...I just want to feel I'm just like you. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
You understand? But I'm not. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
I'm not. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
So we keep it quiet to ourself. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
I think we find it very embarrassing. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
I just didn't want people to know that I was sick, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
cos you look fine this day, then the next day, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
they'll be asking, "Where are you?" | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
You can be gone for two weeks, three weeks, because you are in hospital. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
Ade isn't alone. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Many sickle cell sufferers are ashamed of their condition. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
Comfort Ndive is a Regional Care Advisor | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
for a charity that's been set up to raise awareness. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
So, do you find that a lot of sickle cell anaemia sufferers | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
-fail to come forward? -Yes. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
A lot of them are living in isolation, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
for fear of | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
being stigmatised. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
So what effect does that then have on their lives, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
their expectation of life? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
Socially, they are isolated. They are excluded. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
They don't have a good quality of life. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
All they know is going into hospital and back home. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
They don't participate in any activities, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
they don't know what is going on out there, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
or things like the services they can access. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
But sufferers shouldn't really feel embarrassed. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
Sickle cell is an inherited disorder | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
that has a one in four chance of occurring when both parents have the trait. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
The condition's unbearable pain | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
can be triggered by a number of factors, including the weather, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
stress levels and dehydration. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
You've got a serious condition | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
that can render you really unable to do anything, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:54 | |
through pain and discomfort, for weeks. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
-But you can't predict when it will strike. -No. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
You see, with sickle cell, it's very unpredictable. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
You can work one minute, you look fine, but the next minute, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
you can't even move. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
They will just call an ambulance to come. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Each individual case is different. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
Some people have more severe pain. They have chronic, severe crises. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
Some people don't even have crises for a period of time. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
It's a chronic condition that you cannot tell when it will come. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
For Ade, the worst crisis he's ever experienced | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
came in 2005, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
when he was working in a department store in London. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
I went to work on that day, that morning. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
I was feeling fine. Everything was OK. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Like my body was fine. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:43 | |
I was running up and down, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
trying to serve customers. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
And I went to speak to one of my colleagues | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
and my whole body just... | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
I just felt like something was wrong. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
And I sat on the floor. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
And I couldn't move my body after that. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
It was hard for me to breathe, | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
so I had to tell my colleague to call me an ambulance. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Before I knew it, my chest was aching. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
It felt like somebody was standing on my chest | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
and I couldn't breathe. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
I remember the ambulance came. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
I was on the sixth floor. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
The ambulance came, and they put me in a wheelchair | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
with a gas mask on. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
It was not... I didn't have pain, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
but it felt like my body was gone. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
Like my veins, everything, was shut down. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
I felt like my body was lifeless. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
And I thought I was going to... | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
This time, I thought definitely this was it. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
That whole crisis experience took me at least... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
..five months for me to properly recover, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
because it was a serious one | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
and I was scared. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Ade coped by writing songs | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
to express his frustration with the condition. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
But he still needed to pay the bills, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
and his future was looking uncertain. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
It was tough. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
I couldn't do stuff that I normally do. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
I was living by myself. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
Bills were piling up, because I was trying to get a job. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
And when you do get a job.... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
..when you're sick, and you tell your manager... | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
"Oh, you've been missing for two weeks. You've lost your job." | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
OK. Start all over again. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
You know? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:24 | |
So it was... | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It was very unbalanced for me at that point in my life. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
Ade had claimed Jobseeker's Allowance, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
but as he didn't consider himself disabled, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
he had no idea that he could have access to other forms of benefits. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
It's a problem that's all too common. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
It's frustrating that people are not claiming benefits that they can apply for, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:51 | |
simply because they don't know about that benefit being there. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
So it's very important for organisations like ourselves | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
to let them know that this is nothing to be ashamed about. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
You are able to look after yourself | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
and keep well, but at the same time, there are other times when you're not. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
This is why certain benefits are there to help you financially | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
to look after yourself. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
Ade didn't realise there was a whole support network out there. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Join us later to find out if the Society can help him. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Now from those in need of help to those who are out to scam the system. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
We all want to see fraudsters get their comeuppance, | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
but while a prison sentence sends out a very strong message, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
if they've made money from what they've done, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
well, it doesn't seem fair that they should keep it. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
That's when the Proceeds of Crime Act comes into play. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
The Proceeds of Crime Act 2002 | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
was brought into play particularly to deprive criminals | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
of the assets that they have gained | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
as a result of their offending behaviour. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
So it was designed to strip the assets, such as houses, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
property, land, vehicles, jewellery, money, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
away from people who had committed offences. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
And one man who felt the sting of the Proceeds of Crime Act | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
is 66-year-old Robert Mooney. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
In 2010, he was living in social housing | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
for single Irish men in the London borough of Brent. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
He'd been receiving Disability Living Allowance | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
for an old back injury from the Department for Work and Pensions | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
and Housing and Council Tax Benefit totalling £125 a week | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
to help him along a bit until he got back on his feet. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
Nothing wrong with that. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
But an anonymous allegation in 2009 | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
shed a whole new light on Mr Mooney. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Jackie Raja, a financial investigator | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
from the Department for Work and Pensions, was on his case. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Robert Mooney first came to the attention of Brent Housing Benefits in 2009. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:55 | |
They'd received an allegation that he wasn't spending much time at the property that he had in London. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:03 | |
Brent Council in fact had a John Mooney down as a benefit claimant | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
and thought the tip-off sounded a bit fishy, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
so investigators did some digging | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
and their trail led them | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
to Denbighshire County Council in Wales. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:17 | |
They'd issued a Blue Badge and Disability Living Allowance | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
to someone with the name Mooney to help him get around. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
But could it be two different people? | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
The council found that this Blue Badge that had been issued in Denbighshire | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
belonged to a red Jaguar. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
When they did further checks, they found this red Jaguar | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
was registered to a George Mooney. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
Denbighshire Council and Brent Council | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
had exchanged information and exchanged photographs | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
and they believed that George Mooney and John Mooney | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
were one and the same person. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:52 | |
So John and George are the same bloke, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
driving a Jag and both claiming various benefits | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
from two different councils | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
hundreds of miles away from each other. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
Alarm bells were now well and truly ringing off the wall. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
But that wasn't everything. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
They then uncovered another address, based in Manchester. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
So that led to further suspicion | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
that potentially there were three people and three addresses and three claims being run. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:19 | |
The third was one Robert or Bertie Mooney | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
and there was only one way to find out just how far | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
the fraud stretched. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:26 | |
Time to call in the surveillance team. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Mr Mooney was driving this red Jaguar, accompanied by two females, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
I understand. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
He was going to the Post Office | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
and was withdrawing his benefit for that location from his Post Office card account. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
He was then followed back to the property that he was renting | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
from the council, either in London or Wales. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
He spent the night at that property | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
and then travelled back home again, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
either back to Manchester or then on to Wales, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
to pick up his money for the other location, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
and then drove home again. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
As far back as 1999, Bertie Mooney - the real Mooney - | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
had fraudulently pocketed around £150,000 | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
from Denbighshire County Council, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
the London Borough of Brent | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
and the Department for Work and Pensions. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
There was now more than enough evidence | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
to justify searching all the properties he was linked to | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
and arresting him. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
In the interview with the investigators, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
he admitted that he had made up the other two names, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
he'd made up the claims, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
and that his real name actually was Robert Mooney. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
So, finally, three became one. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
Mt Mooney was charged with 38 counts altogether... | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
He was found guilty and given 18 months in prison. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
Now, it always feels good when fraudsters like Mr Mooney | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
are given a sentence, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
but what about the money he stole off us, the taxpaying public? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
Jackie and her team had already been figuring out | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
how to get that back. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
The first thing investigators did | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
was make some enquiries about what money Mr Mooney had. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
And when he'd been arrested and his properties searched, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
we'd uncovered evidence of a number of accounts that he held. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
The investigators, using powers under the Proceeds of Crime Act, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
were able to put a restraint on a number of accounts that Mr Mooney held, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
which prevented him accessing the money in those accounts. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
But in addition to that, the house searches | 0:24:32 | 0:24:37 | |
and investigations that we made | 0:24:37 | 0:24:38 | |
uncovered evidence that Mr Mooney actually owned a fourth property in Wales. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
And that property was found to be up for sale | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
at the time that we first put the restraining order on Mr Mooney accessing his finances. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:55 | |
With Mooney locked up and a restraint on his assets, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
he wasn't about to go on a shopping spree. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
But would it cover the amount he owed? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
At the time of the confiscation hearing, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
we had evidence that Mr Mooney | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
had benefited to at least the sum of £185,000 | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
as a result of his criminality. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
It was good news, and Jackie's team had already put restraining orders | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
on £60,000-worth of his property and assets. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
The courts gave him one year to pay back a £100,000 confiscation order. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
To date, Mr Mooney has paid back | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
around £97,000 of that. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
From the point of view of a result, it's an excellent result for us. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
It means that £100,000 | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
of money is confiscated from a criminal, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
that they don't then benefit from their crime. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
That money is returned to the public purse. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
And Mr Mooney, on his release from prison, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
doesn't benefit at all from the years of criminality | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
that he's been engaged in. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
So it just demonstrates that if the DWP | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
have anything to say about it, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
in the long run, crime won't pay. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
It's time to leave the tiny minority trying to cheat the system | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
and turn our attention to those who really need help. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
Sickle cell sufferer Ade was finding it hard to cope | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
with an unpredictable condition | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
which made it difficult for him to work | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
when, like most sufferers, all he wanted to do | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
was live a normal life and earn a living. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
With the sufferers that you've met, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
do they generally, um, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
want the same things everyone else wants? | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Yes. Oh, yes, oh, yes. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
They want relationships, they want to go about | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
doing their daily activities like anyone else. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
They'd like to go out to work. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
Even though they are having pains, they would like to go out there and work. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Sickle cell does not prevent you from achieving your goals in life. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
So most of them do as much as they can. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Some of them are IT consultants, some of them doctors, they are nurses. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
The difficulty they face is that most employers cannot keep them for long, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
because when they are in crisis, it might take one or two weeks in hospital. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
And not turning up for work, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
always in pain. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
They feel that they are just giving excuses, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
there's nothing wrong with them, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
because sickle is invisible. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:27 | |
It's not something you can see physically, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
so people do not understand | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
when somebody with sickle cell is in pain, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
they are really sick and they are really in pain. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Ade needed to work to pay his bills, | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
so he managed to get a job as a security officer. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
But it was a two-hour journey from his home. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
It was not the job I wanted. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
It was not the stuff I wanted. And it was cold, it was winter. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
And there was one incident that happened. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
I was having a crisis. I was having one of those minor crises that I... | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
I couldn't really manage | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
and I had to go home. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
And I told my manager that I'm having a crisis - | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
please can I go home? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
He said if I go home, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
your job is not going to be here for you again. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Because I was desperate - I needed money to survive, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
I needed money to eat, I needed money to pay my electricity bill | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
and stuff like that - | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
I didn't go home. I just stayed there. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Because I didn't want to lose the job. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
When he made that statement, I was very... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
disgusted. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
My blood was boiling inside. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
I felt like there's no-one who understands what I'm going through right now. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
I don't know what happened to me that day. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
Something just told me to write... | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
that song that was coming to my head. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
Writing the song helped Ade deal with his feelings of frustration, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
but he really needed practical support. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Having heard about his predicament, a specialist nurse | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
put him in touch with the Sickle Cell Society. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
It was here that we met Iyamide Thomas. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
I first met Ade... | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
I think it was 2007. He was referred to me | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
because he was having crises and he needed help. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
As part of her job, Iyamide visited Ade at home. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
When I did the home visit, I did notice that he didn't have a proper bed. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
His mattress was on the floor. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
So, financially, I don't think Ade was very financially secure when I met him. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:29 | |
And I don't think he was getting some of the benefits | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
that he could have applied for. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
Iyamide helped him to access a welfare fund, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
which provided him with a new bed. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
She also encouraged him to apply for Disability Living Allowance. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
But at first, his applications were unsuccessful. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
This happens a lot for those with sickle cell, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
as it's a hard condition to define. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
So, the forms are there to describe a permanent condition, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
-but with sickle cell, what you're talking about is something that comes and goes. -Yes. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
And so that makes the form quite difficult. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
Difficult for them to fill out, yes, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:06 | |
because their condition fluctuates. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
It's unpredictable. One minute you are OK. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
The next minute... What do you say? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
You say on the form, "Today I feel OK. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
"I was able to do this for myself." | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
The next minute on the next form, you say you can't even get up when you're in crisis. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
You can't do anything for yourself. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
It was a frustrating time for Ade, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
and he told Iyamide about the song he'd written, Feel My Pain. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
I then thought that's very good, and we're going to do something with Feel My Pain. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
And I then helped to | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
try and get a grant from one of those organisations in Lambeth. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
And we got it. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
And it was for him to produce Feel My Pain on CD and DVD. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
And then we did a launch. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
# If you could only feel my pain | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
# But the world is so afraid | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
# That it's going to take me away | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
# To a place I've never seen... # | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Ade's song not only helped to promote the Society, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
but it gave him a renewed sense of purpose. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
He decided to go to university. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
He graduated with a degree in film studies, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
but was still struggling financially, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
so the Society put him in touch with a community nurse | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
who helped him fill out the Disability Living Allowance application again. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
This time he was successful | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
and it wasn't just a weekly payment. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
The Disability Living Allowance mobility component | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
means that in certain cases, the claimant's also entitled to get help buying or leasing a car. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:34 | |
I've always been very pleased when I see that a client is able to | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
get something that would either allow them to go to this meeting or come to this workshop | 0:31:39 | 0:31:44 | |
or, you know, do something that doesn't tire them out. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
And the fact that he got a car through that was good, that he could go out and, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:53 | |
you now, try and live a normal life. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Since discovering the Society, Ade's financial position has improved. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
He now has the benefits to which he's entitled | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
and it's making his life easier. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
The Society has really made me understand that there's help out there. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
There's help out there if you really search for it. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
Very often, young men with sickle cell, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
they are very frustrated because of the way they are stereotyped and all that. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:23 | |
They tend maybe not to achieve as much, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
but Ade has overcome that | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
and he's just doing his thing, you know. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Unless he's ill, you wouldn't even know he had the condition, really. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
He's getting on with life. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Ade's currently working in a hospital canteen to earn some money | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
while he continues to pursue his dream | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
of working in films. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
You can do whatever you dream of doing. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
As long as you don't let sickle cell block it from you. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
Take that off your mind and you'll get far. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
It takes a lot to be able to cope with a debilitating disorder like sickle cell, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
but Ade's living his life to the full | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
and in the process, by raising awareness through his song, | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
he's giving something back to the Society that's helped him so much. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
# Peace and love. # | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Now it's time to return to the greedy world of our devious scroungers. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
Perfect Imports and Exports | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
was a major player in the importing of garlic. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
But after they were discovered to have under-declared | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
the weight of a couple of their containers from suppliers in China, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
they appeared to have stopped importing garlic | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
and moved on to ginger instead. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
Customs officers were suspicious. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
Believing that £1.4 million | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
had effectively been stolen from the public purse | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
through evasion of import duties, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
they'd been monitoring the company's activities closely. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
In April, we targeted | 0:34:01 | 0:34:02 | |
three containers from China, | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
all declared as ginger. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
We were there at the port when they arrived. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
We watched them be brought onto the shore | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
and two of them were covertly searched. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
This is one of the containers. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
On this picture, you can see the actual container number. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:29 | |
When it was opened up, in this picture, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
you can see that it's literally full of garlic. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
They've even tried to squeeze boxes on top to maximise | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
the amount they could bring in. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
This is a close-up of the garlic. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
But the key factor is that this container | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
was declared as ginger. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
These containers were then returned as normal | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
and collected by Perfect | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
and delivered to their warehouse, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
where they were also observed. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
So, with all the Customs paperwork saying that it was ginger that was being imported, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:17 | |
and yet the container full to the brim with garlic, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
it was time to see whether the company would willingly and voluntarily declare | 0:35:20 | 0:35:25 | |
there had been another mistake in the ordering. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
The company would have no idea that their containers had been examined, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
so they were given time to see if they would admit the error. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
After all, they could genuinely have been expecting a delivery of ginger. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:42 | |
But after having no word for a week, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
in April 2011, search warrants were issued for the offices. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
The first thing they needed to establish was who was in charge. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
On arrest day, my role was to speak to the director, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
but the director on paper wasn't the actual director. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:06 | |
I then spoke to Mr Natarajan, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
who declared himself as the person in charge | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and the director of Perfect Imports and Exports. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
He explained to us that he dealt with purchasing garlic | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
and other goods, and he was effectively in charge | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
of that side of the business, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
which meant that he was the right person we needed to speak to. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
And he was then cautioned and arrested. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
But when Mr Natarajan was brought in for an interview under caution, | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
his behaviour changed. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
He tried to avoid all of our questions. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
He changed his story, he contradicted himself. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
He couldn't explain who the boss was. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
He couldn't explain who paid him. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
And it went on in that vein. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
Despite Mr Natarajan not being very forthcoming, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
the team was gathering enough evidence to prove that he was the boss. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
During the search of the business premises, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
we uplifted numerous computers and documents. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
The documents didn't really give us that much information, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
because they were doctored, effectively. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
But it was the computers that revealed the real source of great evidence for us, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
which was the Skype instant messages. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:26 | |
The instant messages from Natarajan and the Chinese suppliers | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
proved to be a vital piece of information. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
In front of me I have a transcript. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Natarajan says, "Have you loaded the first container of garlic? | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
"Please make the bill of lading as ginger. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
"I have given two container this week and paid advance, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
"and both should show as ginger." | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
This clearly shows that the Chinese suppliers were involved | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
and that Natarajan was able to manipulate them | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
to assist him mis-declare the goods on import. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
But computer analysis showed that Natarajan wasn't the only player. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
They discovered further instant messages to the Chinese suppliers | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
from one of his colleagues, a woman called Lakshmi Suresh, | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
which they believed proved she was also knowingly involved in the smuggling of garlic. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:19 | |
From a transcript, I have an example of where Lakshmi Suresh | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
is messaging the Chinese suppliers | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
and she says, "18 tonnes, can you show?" | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
And the Chinese supplier replies, | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
"Yes, it is OK, but, dear, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
"it is too risky for all 18 tonnes. We worried they will discover." | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
This was enough evidence for them to bring in Suresh | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
for an interview under caution. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
Lakshmi Suresh was quite evasive during the interview. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
She didn't give us any information. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
Even when we asked about her email address, she denied that she had an email address, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:59 | |
even though there was an email address in her name, for example. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
We believe that she was under instructions by Mr Natarajan | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
to basically not give us any other information. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:10 | |
Once they were confident it was Natarajan pulling all the strings, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
a warrant was issued to search his house. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
We wanted to search Natarajan's home address, | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
because we believed that there was potential evidence there. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
We found up to £150,000-worth of cash | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
hidden in different places, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
as well as a cash-counting machine. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
That's a lot of cash lying around. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
The investigators were happy that they had enough evidence | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
to charge both Natarajan and Suresh. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
Suresh pleaded guilty in November 2012 | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
and was given a 12-month suspended sentence | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
and ordered to pay £10,000 compensation. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
Natarajan was still maintaining his innocence | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
and continued working. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
For his business, he's been to China. He went to different parts of the world | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
to maybe source goods. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
But we had no concerns about his bail conditions, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
based on the fact that he attended all of the court hearings. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
We had lots of contact with him via his solicitor, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
and so there weren't any restrictions on him travelling. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
The officers had no cause for concern. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
But when it came round to Natarajan's day in court in December, | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
he didn't turn up. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
Stuck in traffic? Running late? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
No. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
He'd skipped the country. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
That didn't stop the team prosecuting him, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
and the court case was held in his absence. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
The prosecution led the jury through our evidence, | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
which was presented to the judge, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
and the jury came back and made their decision, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
giving Natarajan six years' imprisonment. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:02 | |
Six years is one of the longest sentences handed out | 0:41:04 | 0:41:08 | |
for this type of crime in recent years. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
100 containers from Perfect Imports and Exports | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
had been identified as either being understated or wrongly described, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:19 | |
equalling around £2 million in unpaid Customs duties. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
In terms of the case itself, it was a success. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
We stopped the smuggling | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
and we dealt with the individuals. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
For Mr Natarajan, one day there will be a knock on his door. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
As for the money, HMRC has £150,000 of Natarajan's money | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
that they seized from his house, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
as well as the £10,000 that Suresh paid in compensation. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
Evasion of Customs duty like this is a serious matter. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
We're looking at sums of money in the millions | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
that should have been paid to the Exchequer. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
Failure to pay that money | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
means that the money isn't available to be spent | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
on public works, schools, hospitals and so forth. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
It is a serious matter, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
and the sentence that Mr Natarajan was handed down by the court reflects that. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
But they're not going to let it rest there. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
He's still on their Most Wanted list. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
And they're confident that one day he'll be made to pay. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
If anybody does have any information about where Natarajan is, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
it's really important they contact us, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
because he should be serving the time that he's been sentenced to. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
So it turns out there is a big difference between ginger and garlic. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
Ginger...they call the root of life. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:49 | |
Whereas garlic, if you fail to pay your import duty on it, | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
can be the route to a prison sentence. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
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