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This is William Klein.

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A man who's spent his life refusing to be pigeonholed.

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I have film, I'm ready to go.

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He's a pioneer of 20th-century photography.

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His raw, dramatic images

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of '50s New York helped create

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the art of street photography.

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His pictures are like a fist in the face, coming straight at you.

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You are not going to miss them.

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This one book has probably been the most influential

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photographic book ever published.

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And these are his striking and hugely influential fashion images.

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He's made countless films,

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including the first ever documentary about Muhammad Ali...

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I predict that tonight, somebody will die at ringside from shock.

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..controversial political films,

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and his classic satire of the fashion world,

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Who Are You, Polly Maggoo?

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Divine.

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It's hard to believe that that same person is capable

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of such beauty, at the same time be so powerful, and angry.

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Today, at the age of 84, Klein still displays an enviable lust for life.

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I'm a New Yorker. I was able to bullshit all these guys.

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I can still do it.

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And now, an acclaimed retrospective at Tate Modern

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is celebrating Klein's dazzling range of work

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over a career of more than 60 years.

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In the months leading up to the exhibition,

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I caught up with William Klein

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back on the streets of his native New York,

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and in his home city of Paris,

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to try to understand his unique creative vision

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through the eyes of the man himself.

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Wide-angle lens?

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I'm going to look great.

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William Klein is one of the great Americans in Paris.

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After the war, he did his army service in Europe,

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and moved to France,

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where he fell madly in love with Janine,

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who would be by his side for over 50 years.

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Throughout his life,

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he has worked regularly on both sides of the Atlantic.

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But Paris is home.

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After Janine died seven years ago, he has lived here, alone,

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in a grand top-floor apartment.

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What's that you've got? Is that your team?

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This is the Yankees.

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I was against the Yankees in the old days,

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now I am sort of...mellowing.

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What do you miss about New York?

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The great restaurants.

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I'm kidding!

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-I was going to say!

-I don't give a shit about New York restaurants.

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Thanks to a US Government scholarship for ex-soldiers,

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William was able to study in Paris as an artist.

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Paris was the centre of art in the world.

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I thought, you know, after the war, I would have a few bucks

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and I would be able to live like a king in Paris.

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Go to La Coupole and clap Picasso and Giacometti on the shoulder.

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I thought that was the life.

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Klein studied under the legendary French sculptor and painter, Fernand Leger.

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He was imposing. He was like

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Rocky Marciano or Lee Marvin.

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He was a big, husky, Normandy peasant.

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He spoke in very simple terms.

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He said all you 20-year-old apprentice geniuses,

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you want to be well known,

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you want to get galleries,

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you want to meet collectors,

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you want to make money,

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and bullshit.

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Leger was one of the great pioneers of modern art.

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His work explored aspects of Cubism and futurism,

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and also included extraordinary experimental films.

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His ambitious multidisciplinary approach to art

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provided a vital inspiration to the young Klein.

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To go to Leger and to see a real 100% artist,

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a great innovator and theoretician, was great.

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The early work that Klein produced was full of bold lines,

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rich colours, and a strong graphic eye

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that would appear throughout his work.

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-OK.

-So we're going to the studio?

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-Did you go to the Folies Bergere last night?

-I wish.

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Today is...what? Thursday, Friday?

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It is Friday. Is it open on Friday?

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They have a special Friday show.

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In the Montparnasse district of Paris,

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William still pays regular visits

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to the studio he has been using for over 50 years.

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Here, everything is carefully curated

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with Klein's trademark red and black branding.

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Here, we need more density.

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The exhibition at Tate Modern is a few months away,

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and William's assistant, Pierre-Louis,

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is overseeing the preparations.

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Something very light.

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For William Klein, an exhibition is never just a retrospective,

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but a spectacle,

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with his images often printed on a grand scale.

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C'est bien.

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'Among the work at Tate Modern will be

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'some of his early experiments with light and photography.'

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You're very prescriptive about how your shows are done,

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how the exhibitions are mounted, so what was your concept for the Tate?

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-What was my hope and vision?

-Yes.

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A good show.

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Bravo, Pierre-Louis.

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Will you be doing that at the Tate, Pierre-Louis?

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Is it performance art, this?

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No, Pierre-Louis only does this in Paris.

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Let the Tate manage for themselves.

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It's these abstract images that first brought William

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to the attention of Vogue magazine.

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After he produced a series of works based on painted panels

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that he'd made for an Italian architect.

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I photographed the panels,

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and the light wasn't very good, so the exposure was long,

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and I had Jan, my wife, turn panels while I photographed,

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and I saw these geometrical forms which blurred,

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and I thought, well, maybe this is something new.

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And I had the idea that if I had a negative,

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I could do anything with it.

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The renowned art director of Vogue, Alexander Liberman,

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was struck by Klein's visual imagination

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and invited him to work for the magazine.

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So, he gave me a contract. It wasn't a lot of money,

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but it was like 100 a week.

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-Which, at that time was...

-Good money!

-..really good money.

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So, despite his love of Paris, in 1954,

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with the financial support of Vogue magazine,

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he found himself back in New York.

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Here, he created a groundbreaking visual portrait of the city,

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unlike anything that had gone before.

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A book of photographs that was not simply a collection of images,

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but more like a movie experience, with the pictures accompanied

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by Klein's own wry commentary.

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'New York is a monument to the dollar.

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'The dollar is responsible for everything, good and bad.

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'Everybody comes for it. No one can resist it.'

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What Klein did

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in the mid-'50s was to take the language

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of things like tabloid newspapers,

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that very grainy, black-and-white, direct way of looking at the world.

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I think coming back, he really smelled the energy of New York

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and wanted to translate that through these very grainy, black and white,

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almost stream of consciousness images.

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He had this eye that was kind of fearless.

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His pictures were raw, rugged, they were in your face.

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He seemed to have the courage to go forward rather than step backwards.

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'Klein's New York book, first published in the 1950s,

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'is now one of the most collectable of all photography books.'

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I've never seen the original of this book,

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I've only seen a version of it.

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'It came with an ironic subtitle,

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'"Life is good and good for you in New York",

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'and a playful, unconventional layout.'

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So, here is a photograph that was taken on St Patrick's Day.

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All these guys are Irish.

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A lot of the people in my photographs

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either look at me, or there is always somebody to the side

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who is looking at the group and saying,

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"What is this guy photographing?"

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It wasn't usual at that time. This is 1955, '54.

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It was kind of surprising

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for a lot of people to see me photographing them, you know.

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'The book takes the reader on a very personal journey

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'around the neighbourhoods of '50s New York.'

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'Some 10,000 flourish in the several streets of Chinatown.

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'About 80% are bachelors. The average age, 51.

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'Many still have wives and children in China.

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'The Italian preteen club present baseball player card collection.

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'My old neighbourhood.

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'The stick ball team with girl cleanup hitter captain, rare.'

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This is a composed photograph. This is in Little Italy.

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The dwarf was the mascot,

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and these guys played with the dwarf.

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And the dwarf was there. They were proud to show me their mascot.

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He was proud to be their mascot.

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I thought it was very unsavoury and...insulting,

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but they didn't.

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'To understand Klein's fascination with the streets he photographed,

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'I went with William back to the neighbourhood where he grew up.'

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How much affection do you have for New York?

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I'm wondering, do I have an affection for New York?

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I tolerate New York.

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You tolerate New York. You love Paris?

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I love Paris.

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Let's go to the corner of 108th and Amsterdam.

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That's the house where you lived.

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That's the house I lived, and I'm pretty sure there's no plaque!

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William Klein was born in 1928

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to a Jewish immigrant family,

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rocked by the impact of the great Stock Market Crash.

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My grandfather was a tailor,

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and he was successful.

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And then my father, who took it over, played the stock market in 1929,

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which wasn't a good time to play the stock market.

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And he lost everything.

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We had to move, and we were in a real dump on the West Side.

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The family were forced to move to a tough neighbourhood,

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not far from Harlem.

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The good life and the crappy life were very often juxtaposed.

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There was a film that came out when I was in New York at that time,

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called the Dead End Kids,

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and in this film, you'd see an upscale apartment house

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and right next to it was a slum.

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It was a matter of life and death to walk five blocks.

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A real New York situation.

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Out of sight!

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I was brought up on the streets, part of a New York underclass.

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Here we are. OK, thank you.

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A pilgrimage.

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201.

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That's it.

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Look at the door. The door is very chic.

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And the buttons.

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I just rang number one.

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My friend William... Oh, thank you. ..Used to live here,

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-so we're trying to... He lived here...

-OK.

-..many, many years ago.

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-What apartment?

-The first one, here.

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KNOCKS REPEATEDLY

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-It's kind of a...

-It's a knock, all right.

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People inside, they hear that, they think it's the police

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or the Mafia!

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'There's no-one home, but it doesn't seem to bother him too much.

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'I can see that William is a man always living in the moment.'

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-You go to school?

-Yes.

-Down the block?

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'Take him back to the place he was brought up

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-'and there's no great nostalgia.'

-Can I ask you a question?

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'He's more curious about the people living here now.'

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Are there still cockroaches around?

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I saw one, maybe last week, but I have a cat, so he took care of it.

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-Were you born here?

-Yes.

-In this house?

-Yes.

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My grandmother's been here for 40-something years.

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And you like this neighbourhood?

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It's home to me, it's all I know.

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When Klein's family lived here, this was a poor community,

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hit hard by the Depression.

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Tell me about your father.

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So, when you came here, your father was sort of coming downmarket,

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-then...?

-He was moving down the ladder.

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HE CHUCKLES

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I guess I felt it was going down the scale

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of success in America.

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And...

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I was not too excited.

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During this period, in his early teens,

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William was already captivated by art,

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trekking across town to visit the Museum of Modern Art.

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What made a boy of 13, 14 make his way to the Museum of Modern Art?

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Uh, you know, must be in my genes somewhere.

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Uh, I guess...

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there was also an element of wanting to get out of

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a shitty place like this.

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NEWSREEL: 'No dusty storehouse for old Masters,

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'this museum is an up-to-date showroom for the art of our time.

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'Painting and sculpture, architecture and still photography

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'and the motion picture.'

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Art seemed to be, for me, a way of...

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moving out, moving up.

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Listen, let's get out of this fucking place!

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Did you like my old house?

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-I liked the congeniality of the company we met there.

-Yeah.

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It was a real kind of community. Was it like that when you were there?

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No!

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We're going up to Harlem.

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Harlem was one of the neighbourhoods that featured

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prominently in the New York book.

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When you went there with the camera,

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did that give you a kind of excuse to be looking, do you think?

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The camera was an excuse, yes.

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'Horsing around in Harlem.

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'"Man, what do you want to take our picture for?"

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'Trying to escape the lens, but playful, a game.'

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A lot of people would say, "Are you crazy, going up to Harlem?"

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People that I would be more or less afraid of looking at directly,

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I felt at ease taking their photographs.

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'The Whites never go to Harlem, never even think of it,

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'for Harlem lies off-limits, somewhere in the bad conscience of the city.

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'New York time missed a beat here.

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'Since the Whites left Harlem, the clocks stopped.'

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GIRLS CHATTER

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Despite the fact that he has some difficulty moving these days,

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William's eager to meet and talk to people on the street.

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With the help of our driver, John, we went to talk to the locals.

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I can only guess what he'd have been like in his prime,

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-prowling the streets of New York.

-Does he know what you know?

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No, I know SOME of what he knows...

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You were what, photographing in Harlem how many years ago?

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-Many years ago.

-Many years ago?

-How many years? The '60s?

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-The '50s?

-'50s.

-Oh, yeah?

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-Who were the subjects you were photographing?

-Just people.

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-Just people. Oh, all right.

-I photographed the kids.

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'Close close-up.

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'You could go into an empty Latin Harlem then,

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'tell the kids, "Move closer, hold it, look here, play the harmonica."

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'You could do that then.'

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It was a real community, everybody looked out for one another.

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-Here, in Harlem?

-Yes, everybody looked out for one another. You know?

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See, a lot of Caucasians, they were afraid to come to Harlem.

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-Yeah.

-All the movie stars, politicians,

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-they used to come uptown to see our shows.

-And you guys couldn't get in.

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Yeah. We used to go in the back. We had to go in the back.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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Yeah.

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William still carries his camera with him everywhere

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and today is no exception.

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-You've still got a good eye, William.

-Yes.

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-You have a good eye.

-That's easy, man.

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That's what made you a good photographer.

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-Cos you've got a good eye!

-A good eye.

-Yes.

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You need more than that.

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The thing with Klein's New York is you start looking through,

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and it's the accumulation of these pictures which really counts,

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so by the end of it, you haven't just seen a collection of individual pictures,

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you've seen an accumulation, which creates this noise, which gives off energy,

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which reflects so accurately

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what was going on in New York in the mid-1950s.

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'Pseudo-poster for the American dream.

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'Italian cop, integrated Hispanic,

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'Yiddish momma,

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'African-American lady, plus beret.

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'The melting pot.'

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Klein wasn't the only pioneering street photographer,

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but his harshly-framed, often blurred and distorted pictures

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had a look that was entirely his own.

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Another famous photograph, which...was used a lot.

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These kids were just play-acting and they weren't...

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Threatening.

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..as tough as they look.

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I asked them to look tough and for me, it's a self-portrait, you know?

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I also played on the street with guns,

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but I was also a sort of angelic...

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So I was both of them.

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You know you're not supposed to smoke on the BBC, William.

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You're not used to doing what you're told, are you?

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'These contrasting sides to Klein's personality -

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'the straight-talking street kid and the sensitive artist -

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'are a key to understanding the richness of his work.'

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This has been gruelling.

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'I sense that rawness'

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in his make up.

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I know for a fact he doesn't suffer fools gladly,

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that you mustn't upset him, so,

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there is an emotional quickness and rawness about him as a person.

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And it definitely comes across in his photography.

0:22:270:22:31

'Get your camera out of my face. Unusual, but OK.'

0:22:340:22:39

Klein developed a language which was, at the time, incredibly radical

0:22:420:22:46

and unique.

0:22:460:22:47

Now we see it all the time, and in fact, every time we DO see it,

0:22:470:22:50

they are, in fact, children of Klein.

0:22:500:22:52

His distinctive style has influenced generations of photographers around the world,

0:22:530:22:58

including the leading Japanese photographer, Daido Moriyama,

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whose work is being shown alongside Klein's at Tate Modern.

0:23:010:23:05

And for one legendary British photographer,

0:23:070:23:10

Klein's example was an inspiration.

0:23:100:23:13

It was completely in-your-face, the way he worked.

0:23:130:23:16

And that's what attracted, you know, him to me.

0:23:160:23:20

I thought, "This is the kind of man I would like to be,

0:23:200:23:23

"this is the way my photography has to be - no half-measures, straight in."

0:23:230:23:27

You look at Klein's work and you believe you're looking at reality.

0:23:310:23:34

There's a strong sense of composition,

0:23:340:23:37

but then real-life and randomness

0:23:370:23:39

is allowed to come in and out of the frame.

0:23:390:23:41

'Cashier in Broadway Cinema.

0:23:440:23:46

'At home in her glass case on the sidewalk, she reads, dreams,

0:23:460:23:51

'phones, makes up, completely oblivious of the sidewalk audience.'

0:23:510:23:56

As well as enigmatic moments

0:23:580:24:00

fleetingly captured by Klein's camera, the book is full of scenes

0:24:000:24:04

where the subjects are clearly very aware of what's going on.

0:24:040:24:08

I think some of his best pictures

0:24:080:24:11

are a mix, where you get

0:24:110:24:13

a kind of gallery of characters in the shot.

0:24:130:24:16

And some of them are clearly aware of what's going on

0:24:160:24:19

and are playing up to the camera.

0:24:190:24:21

And you feel this very collaborative theatre in the pictures.

0:24:210:24:27

-John?

-Yes? I'm getting my hair cut.

0:24:400:24:43

You're getting your hair shaved.

0:24:430:24:45

-That's not a haircut, that's a shave, man.

-I'm getting my hair shaved.

0:24:450:24:48

Ah, you're a good man, William.

0:24:510:24:53

The gods are with you.

0:24:530:24:55

Why are you walking around with film? You got to get with the times!

0:24:560:25:00

I like film. I'm old-fashioned.

0:25:000:25:03

-William may seem old-fashioned in today's digital age...

-I have film.

0:25:030:25:08

I'm ready to go.

0:25:080:25:11

.. but when he began taking pictures,

0:25:110:25:14

they were a radical departure from the work of many

0:25:140:25:16

of his contemporaries, including the fabled Henri Cartier-Bresson.

0:25:160:25:21

Cartier-Bresson kept this distance, almost as if he was a ghost,

0:25:210:25:27

walking amongst the people of the streets of the world, you know?

0:25:270:25:31

Whereas Klein make no pretence that he was there

0:25:310:25:35

and he was coming after you with that camera.

0:25:350:25:38

John?

0:25:380:25:39

-Yes?

-Sing us some Placido Domingo.

0:25:390:25:44

HE SINGS

0:25:440:25:46

The irony was, William took his pictures using a camera

0:25:520:25:56

he'd bought from Cartier-Bresson.

0:25:560:26:00

It shows so ably and so well

0:26:000:26:03

how photography can be so different with a different author

0:26:030:26:06

and different photographer behind the camera.

0:26:060:26:09

-Excuse me, what's your name?

-Ramona.

0:26:090:26:11

-Ramona, are you going to cut my hair a little bit?

-Yes, I do now.

-OK.

0:26:110:26:16

Klein's New York images were obsessed not only with the people,

0:26:170:26:20

but with how New York was a city constantly selling itself.

0:26:200:26:25

This was the age of Mad Men, the birth of advertising

0:26:260:26:29

and Klein's images brought a satirical eye

0:26:290:26:32

to a city in which people were drowning in the big sell.

0:26:320:26:35

'Advertising today is mainly grotesque.

0:26:370:26:40

'Such a conspiracy has developed between advertiser and public

0:26:400:26:44

'that it's become a gag. The public is grateful, yaks, then goes along.'

0:26:440:26:49

Vogue never printed his photographs.

0:26:510:26:54

In fact, he couldn't find a publisher at all in America

0:26:540:26:57

for his unfashionably gritty pictures.

0:26:570:27:00

William, by then back in Paris, just thought they'd missed the point.

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IN FRENCH

0:27:050:27:08

-John, do you know where we're going?

-Yes.

-Good.

0:27:250:27:28

Look at this. What's going on?

0:27:300:27:32

When he was starting, Klein was one of a small group of pioneers,

0:27:320:27:36

documenting the streets around them.

0:27:360:27:39

-Is this Times Square?

-Yeah.

0:27:390:27:41

Now, the urge to capture everything with a camera

0:27:410:27:44

is a mainstream obsession.

0:27:440:27:46

-Everyone's got a camera now, you know?

-Everybody, that's the thing.

0:27:500:27:54

What's amazing is that all these people buy a camera

0:27:550:28:00

and start using it and what they do are the most avant-garde things

0:28:000:28:04

that no professional cameraman would dare to do.

0:28:040:28:09

In 1958,

0:28:110:28:13

still experimenting with new ways of documenting New York,

0:28:130:28:17

William picked up a film camera and came here to Times Square,

0:28:170:28:21

where, over a period of nights, he shot a remarkable short film -

0:28:210:28:27

Broadway By Light.

0:28:270:28:29

His mesmerising, beautifully-scored meditation on a city

0:28:290:28:33

enthralled to the consumer image is regarded by many

0:28:330:28:36

as an early Pop Art classic.

0:28:360:28:39

When I did Broadway By Light,

0:28:480:28:50

I had a tripod and a small Arriflex.

0:28:500:28:54

The people who came by and saw me filming it...

0:28:540:28:58

at, you know, 11 o'clock at night, in the freezing cold,

0:28:580:29:02

they would look at the camera and tripod and...

0:29:020:29:05

"Hey, man, you got a great camera, man."

0:29:050:29:09

But they never asked me what I was filming or why.

0:29:090:29:13

I got visitors from the FBI who came by and said,

0:29:170:29:21

"We want you to make a film that glorifies America."

0:29:210:29:24

-I said, "OK."

-Really?

-No.

0:29:250:29:29

I did it a bit in that spirit.

0:29:310:29:34

A lot of people said, you're doing a book

0:29:340:29:38

so dark and black and anti-American.

0:29:380:29:43

I said, I'll do something which will be beautiful,

0:29:430:29:46

in colour, which would also talk about

0:29:460:29:50

consumerism...and selling.

0:29:500:29:55

It was a conscious effort to continue my diatribe

0:29:570:30:03

against America but in candy-coloured heaven.

0:30:030:30:10

You call it a diatribe but there's something playful about

0:30:100:30:13

what you do as well.

0:30:130:30:14

It's a hymn to America, it's a hymn to money,

0:30:140:30:18

a hymn to commerce.

0:30:180:30:20

It's a hymn to the most beautiful thing in New York.

0:30:200:30:25

What was it like when you came here all those years ago?

0:30:420:30:44

When you put your tripod up, where did you put it?

0:30:440:30:47

When I did this film? Right here.

0:30:470:30:50

It was like a living room.

0:30:500:30:52

All the walls were covered.

0:30:520:30:54

And, er...

0:30:540:30:56

It was intimate and gemutlich.

0:30:560:30:59

Comfortable. Gemutlich.

0:30:590:31:01

Yeah, really.

0:31:010:31:03

This is the interesting thing about Klein's vision of New York.

0:31:050:31:08

There's a warmth but also an edge, which seems to capture the city,

0:31:090:31:13

its people and the one thing they've always had in common.

0:31:130:31:17

Everybody in New York thinks they're special.

0:31:210:31:24

They all thought they were entitled to be famous.

0:31:240:31:27

They thought they deserved to be photographed.

0:31:270:31:30

They were all complicit in those pictures that you took.

0:31:300:31:33

-They were.

-They wanted to be part of it.

0:31:330:31:36

They wanted to pose for you.

0:31:360:31:38

Klein's portrait of a city has attitude and energy,

0:31:420:31:45

fuelled, as always, by his mischievous sense of humour.

0:31:450:31:49

-You took a picture with that?

-Yeah.

-Let's have a look.

0:31:490:31:53

That's quite fun.

0:31:560:31:58

It's all right.

0:31:580:32:00

Throughout this period, William was still being paid by Vogue magazine.

0:32:040:32:07

It wasn't long before he was persuaded

0:32:070:32:09

to take fashion photographs,

0:32:090:32:11

bringing the same invention and originality

0:32:110:32:15

that his Vogue mentor, Alex Lieberman, had first spotted

0:32:150:32:18

in his early work.

0:32:180:32:20

Alex Lieberman

0:32:220:32:24

was always looking for the kind of energy

0:32:240:32:27

and the kind of immediacy of a news photograph,

0:32:270:32:32

which was one reason that I think

0:32:320:32:34

that Bill's photography appealed to him so much.

0:32:340:32:37

It was because it had that sense of action.

0:32:370:32:41

What's exceptional about William's work is that

0:32:440:32:47

every single image is so powerful.

0:32:470:32:50

He's not satisfied with the ordinary.

0:32:500:32:54

He's only interested in the extraordinary.

0:32:540:32:57

Where Klein's New York photos had been in your face,

0:32:570:33:01

many of his fashion images adopted new techniques,

0:33:010:33:05

experimenting with tele-photo lenses,

0:33:050:33:08

mirrors and some of the dark room trickery he'd learnt

0:33:080:33:11

in his youthful Paris days.

0:33:110:33:14

But he had not lost his passion for the street

0:33:170:33:20

and for all the drama and confrontations it offered.

0:33:200:33:23

Bill was more interested in photography

0:33:230:33:27

than in fashion.

0:33:270:33:28

He was not the only photographer who did photos out of doors.

0:33:280:33:33

But Bill was the only one who put the girls in amazing situations,

0:33:330:33:40

like standing around in the middle of the traffic

0:33:400:33:44

or climbing on statues or in and out of fountains.

0:33:440:33:48

The more difficult the situation,

0:33:480:33:51

the better he liked it.

0:33:510:33:53

At the Tate exhibition,

0:34:140:34:15

one of Klein's most iconic fashion images

0:34:150:34:18

is now taking pride of place.

0:34:180:34:20

-Here we are.

-Here we are.

-In Rome.

-Piazza da Spagna.

0:34:220:34:26

I was doing a story for Vogue

0:34:260:34:29

on the fashion collections in Rome.

0:34:290:34:32

And I was shown

0:34:320:34:36

these two dresses.

0:34:360:34:37

I said, "I know what we'll do.

0:34:370:34:40

We'll do it on the pedestrian crossing at Piazza da Spagna.

0:34:400:34:45

I had these girls walking back and forth,

0:34:450:34:49

doing doubletakes because they had more or less the same dress.

0:34:490:34:52

I was up on the steps of the Piazza da Spagna.

0:34:520:34:56

I was experimenting...

0:34:560:34:58

You were on a tele-photo?

0:34:580:35:00

A tele-photo. You see everything is flattened out.

0:35:000:35:04

They couldn't see you so they didn't know what was going on.

0:35:040:35:07

Nobody could see me. I was half way up the steps.

0:35:070:35:10

These men didn't understand.

0:35:100:35:13

They thought they were hookers.

0:35:130:35:15

They walked up, starting feeling their ass.

0:35:150:35:18

The editor from Vogue started panicking and she said,

0:35:180:35:22

"We're going to create a scandal."

0:35:220:35:26

So we had to stop.

0:35:260:35:28

I was on the sidewalk,

0:35:280:35:30

biting my nails, terrified that the police would turn up

0:35:300:35:34

cos traffic was beginning to slow,

0:35:340:35:37

men were beginning to congregate.

0:35:370:35:39

The whole thing was getting a little fraught.

0:35:390:35:42

Bill was laughing his head off.

0:35:420:35:44

That was typical of how we worked on location.

0:35:440:35:48

I like these situations where things just developed.

0:35:480:35:53

Did this picture cause quite a sensation when it came out?

0:35:530:35:57

All the photographic stores were besieged by photographers,

0:35:570:36:01

buying tele-photo lenses for their fashion shoots.

0:36:010:36:05

I think it's a good idea. Still think it's a good idea.

0:36:060:36:09

While his New York images feel like a real portrait of the city...

0:36:140:36:18

..his fashion images constantly play with the idea of reality,

0:36:200:36:23

drawing attention to their artifice.

0:36:230:36:26

I'm not so sure William actually likes fashion.

0:36:330:36:36

He always says to me he can take it or leave it.

0:36:360:36:39

He says that the difference is when he's working on reportage,

0:36:390:36:42

he's capturing a moment in time that he can't control.

0:36:420:36:47

He gets very excited by that.

0:36:470:36:49

But when he's working in fashion, it tends to be

0:36:490:36:53

he has assistants, there are sets, it's about imagery

0:36:530:36:57

and creating a more playful idea.

0:36:570:37:01

Because he understood how to create a powerful picture,

0:37:060:37:10

he created a lot of iconic fashion pictures.

0:37:100:37:13

Great photographers like Avidon, Penn, Klein,

0:37:130:37:16

they establish their ideas and then the fashion world comes along

0:37:160:37:19

and uses them and that's fine.

0:37:190:37:23

You reap the reward of being well-paid.

0:37:230:37:26

It means your work can go more mainstream.

0:37:260:37:29

William is still in touch with some of his models.

0:37:290:37:31

In New York, he caught up and reminisced

0:37:310:37:34

with one of his favourites, Dorothy MacGowan.

0:37:340:37:37

-This is Dorothy again.

-I'm standing on a platform.

0:37:370:37:42

I fell down.

0:37:420:37:44

Did he care?

0:37:450:37:46

I think he felt like a jerk.

0:37:470:37:49

I was very angry. I had to go to the doctor.

0:37:490:37:52

He got so involved in his work,

0:37:520:37:56

he forgot that I was real.

0:37:560:37:58

DOROTHY LAUGHS

0:37:590:38:01

Dorothy was one of the supermodels of her day.

0:38:040:38:07

But Klein's energetic, spontaneous style

0:38:070:38:10

was a world away from what she had been used to.

0:38:100:38:13

With Bill...it was crazy!

0:38:130:38:18

We had a lot of fun. We laughed. Nobody came near us.

0:38:180:38:21

They just stayed away.

0:38:210:38:23

There were no rules, at least as far as HE was concerned.

0:38:250:38:28

That's a little shocking to some people.

0:38:290:38:32

Tough!

0:38:320:38:34

How was the background created?

0:38:340:38:37

I would take a flash and I had an assistant with lights,

0:38:370:38:40

he would go around the silhouette,

0:38:400:38:43

put it over her head and do this.

0:38:430:38:46

It looks like a Japanese ideogram.

0:38:460:38:47

I love that. Sometimes, we had the flash ourselves

0:38:470:38:51

and we created our own, like here.

0:38:510:38:53

-She didn't know.

-You're so full of baloney!

0:38:530:38:56

Here I created my own flash.

0:38:560:38:58

I'm almost sure.

0:38:580:38:59

All you did was hold out your hand for this big cheque.

0:38:590:39:03

A big cheque? Are you kidding? From Vogue?!

0:39:030:39:06

THEY LAUGH

0:39:060:39:08

-Think again!

-She was very funny...

0:39:080:39:11

Seeing William and Dorothy together, you can tell

0:39:110:39:14

how the teasing quality of the pictures

0:39:140:39:16

is right there in his relationship with his models.

0:39:160:39:19

I never kissed any models.

0:39:200:39:22

I was the only one who never flirted with the models. True?

0:39:220:39:25

Well, I... No, that's not true.

0:39:270:39:29

-Practically.

-What do you mean that's not true?

0:39:290:39:32

First of all, you were much cuter than a lot of the photographers.

0:39:320:39:37

It was very clear that you

0:39:370:39:40

and Janine were very clearly a couple.

0:39:400:39:44

There was nowhere to go with you. You understand?

0:39:440:39:46

You were a man who was married and you were happily married.

0:39:460:39:50

We were.

0:39:500:39:52

In 1966, after nearly a decade taking fashion pictures,

0:39:550:39:59

William made his first feature film -

0:39:590:40:01

Who Are You, Polly Maggoo? -

0:40:010:40:03

casting Dorothy as a young fashion model making her way

0:40:030:40:06

in the business in a parody of a celebrity-obsessed media.

0:40:060:40:11

What was it about the fashion world that intrigued you so much?

0:40:230:40:26

The film is not about fashion. It's about media.

0:40:260:40:32

Fashion is part of media.

0:40:320:40:34

It is also something that is pretty funny,

0:40:340:40:38

graphic and inventive.

0:40:380:40:42

I thought, "Let's do a film on fashion."

0:40:420:40:46

We were all pressed into service.

0:41:010:41:03

Bill was doing this film on a shoestring.

0:41:030:41:05

Jenny and his wife did the costumes.

0:41:070:41:10

The whole thing was done for fun.

0:41:100:41:11

My rate for Vogue was 75 a day!

0:41:130:41:18

-Yeah!

-My rate for Polly Maggoo was 6 a day!

0:41:180:41:24

6 a day?!

0:41:240:41:26

-Talk about...

-Top rate then.

0:41:260:41:28

-6 a day?

-6!

0:41:280:41:32

I can't believe that you got so much.

0:41:320:41:34

You're so full of baloney!

0:41:340:41:36

'Your shoes are dandy!'

0:41:360:41:38

It was supposed to be a spoof, a send-up but unfortunately

0:41:480:41:53

the editor-in-chief of American Vogue was not amused!

0:41:530:41:57

To many of those in the know, it was all too obvious

0:42:020:42:05

who had inspired the film's larger than life fashion editor.

0:42:050:42:08

Divine. Di-veen!

0:42:080:42:12

The fashion editor was based on Diana Vreeland

0:42:120:42:15

and her way of making pronouncements

0:42:150:42:20

like "shocking pink is the navy blue of India".

0:42:200:42:25

Or "think pink".

0:42:250:42:26

Did you intend that to be Diana Vreeland?

0:42:360:42:40

Oh, it was Diana Vreeland.

0:42:400:42:42

HE LAUGHS

0:42:420:42:44

No doubt about that, except that nobody

0:42:440:42:47

ever made fun of her.

0:42:470:42:49

While fashion was paying the bills, Klein's love of the street

0:43:010:43:05

remained undiminished.

0:43:050:43:07

Among the many striking images at the Tate exhibition

0:43:080:43:12

are pictures from Klein's critically-acclaimed books

0:43:120:43:14

on Moscow, Tokyo and Rome.

0:43:140:43:17

'In Rome, all seems pregnant with meaning.

0:43:340:43:37

'Men look tormented. They watch each other

0:43:370:43:40

'and they are watched by uniformed carabinieri.

0:43:400:43:43

'Via del Corso. Worried passer-by. What goes on? Nothing.'

0:43:430:43:49

Sometimes they look like film stills.

0:43:490:43:52

Sometimes the look like these snapped moments where a photographer

0:43:520:43:55

has taken a picture very quickly.

0:43:550:43:58

But they're all too well composed

0:44:010:44:03

to really be like that. They're all too taut, organised frames.

0:44:030:44:07

By the end of his travels,

0:44:110:44:14

Klein had turned street photography into a remarkable art form.

0:44:140:44:18

1961, Moscow.

0:44:200:44:22

May Day, Red Square.

0:44:220:44:24

Facing me, Lenin, Marx, Engels and a traditional parade.

0:44:240:44:31

In the foreground, several comrades from the KGB.

0:44:310:44:34

I think with his set of city books, Klein developed a language

0:44:360:44:39

that was, at the time, incredibly radical and unique.

0:44:390:44:43

And this has spawned many imitators

0:44:430:44:45

and it had a profound effect on the photography world.

0:44:450:44:48

The subtle detail in his pictures comes partly from intuition,

0:44:500:44:55

but also a smart, technical awareness

0:44:550:44:57

of how to get that something extra.

0:44:570:45:00

As he showed me, back at Tate Modern.

0:45:020:45:05

This girl is there in her bikini on the beach on the Moscow River

0:45:050:45:12

and that's probably her grandfather or father

0:45:120:45:16

and her mother in the background, and what's interesting is that

0:45:160:45:21

this is a wide-angle lens, so I would aim the camera at her,

0:45:210:45:27

and she thinks I'm obsessed with her, she's the centre of the world,

0:45:270:45:31

but she doesn't realise I see things happening behind her.

0:45:310:45:35

And we have a family portrait.

0:45:350:45:38

Yes, it's a family portrait.

0:45:380:45:41

Every photograph, I look at the contact,

0:45:410:45:45

it brings back memories of everything,

0:45:450:45:48

how I was feeling, tired, full of beans, photography is like that.

0:45:480:45:53

I'm a champ!

0:45:550:45:56

I'm the real champ!

0:45:560:45:58

With his talent for taking photographs

0:45:580:46:01

that looked like film stills,

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Klein was keen to continue his own adventures in film.

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And, as luck would have it, there was one man

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he seemed born to collaborate with - Muhammad Ali.

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BOTH: Float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. Ha!

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His 1964 film, Cassius The Great, takes us

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incredibly close to the young superstar in the making

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and includes the memorable and often replayed encounter

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of Ali and the Beatles.

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But it was a typical mix of luck and charm

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that gave William such privileged access.

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I went down from New York to Miami

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and there was an empty seat on the plane

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and I recognised the guy sitting next to this empty seat, Malcolm X.

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And I said, "Is this seat free?" He said, yeah.

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And I sat down next to him. And we hit it off.

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Malcolm X was a very cool, intelligent guy.

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And he was curious about a Jewish film-maker from New York.

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And he said, "I'll give you a hand."

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And he let the word out that I was OK.

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And I went to Clay's camp.

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And immediately I was accepted.

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Jabbing and left-hooking. Jabbing and left-hooking.

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Yeah, I'm a pretty fighter. I'm pretty smooth. I'm something new.

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Klein's documentary about Ali is an almost forgotten classic.

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It doesn't just portray the boxing legend

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right at the start of his career.

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It explores what the story had to say about

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the racial tensions of the time.

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In one scene, he brilliantly choreographs the wealthy white men

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who control the young fighter, as they introduce themselves to camera.

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I am W Land Brown,

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chairman of the board of Brown-Forman Distillers Corporation.

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I'm also a farmer and in the oil business.

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Warwick Bingham, the assistant publisher of the Courier, Journal

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and Louisville Times.

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I'm William Cuttings,

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president of the Brown Williamson Tobacco Corporation.

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I travel the world!

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To travel the world, you should be pretty, like me.

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He found in Ali a perfect alter ego, you know.

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Here's a guy that wants to do it his way.

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Pugnacious, determined, super articulate, super smart,

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so, Klein behind the camera is a perfect foil to Ali

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the performer, in front of the camera.

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-People saying we crazy.

-Let 'em keep thinking it!

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-They say we're crazy.

-Let 'em keep thinking it.

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-They say we're crazy.

-We are crazy! Ha!

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THEY LAUGH

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Unsurprisingly, Ali relished what he saw.

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He said, "Where's my film?" I said, "I brought it."

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And we went to his room, and he had steaks brought up, and ice cream.

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When the film was over he wanted to see it again, and we saw it three times.

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INDISTINCT CHANTING AND SHOUTING

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Throughout the 1960s, Klein became increasingly politicised.

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Camera in hand, he documented the revolution on his doorstep.

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Dit qu'on juge pas les hommes par rapport a leurs origines

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sociaux, sociales.

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Filming the frenzy of debate

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and argument in Paris during the student occupations of 1968.

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HE SPEAKS FRENCH

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But, as always, it was unmistakably Klein's eye on events.

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The French filmmaker Chris Marker said of Klein's films that

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you could pick any frame, and it would look like one of his photos.

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You could see what he meant.

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CHANTING

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Elsewhere, Klein turned his camera on the Black Panthers,

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advocates of violent revolution.

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The rules are directed

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in what the pigs of the mass media report, you know?

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Showing his usual fearlessness,

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Klein gave a voice to their controversial leader

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Eldridge Cleaver, on the run in Algeria from the FBI.

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These pigs tried to kill me, shot me in my leg,

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and they were going to kill me, and the only reason I'm not dead

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this minute, there were too many people who came out

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of their houses, and started screaming at these pigs to stop.

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But Klein's provocative political mischief-making

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caught up with him in the end.

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His contribution to the anti-war film, Far From Vietnam,

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would have serious repercussions for his career.

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I knew that there was going to be the biggest anti-war rally ever

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in America, and I went to New York for that.

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It was really worth it.

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Because, for and against,

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the hysterical pro-war people screaming, "Bomb Hanoi, bomb Hanoi!"

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It's kids like this are getting burned up by napalm,

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kids like this, and what's more, people like you,

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grown-up people, being burned up for no good reason at all.

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Stop!

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Meanwhile, William was still taking fashion photos.

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And Far From Vietnam didn't go down well with his Vogue paymasters.

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Napalm! Nah! Nah!

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Nah!

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They said, now you're doing movies, you don't really need our contract.

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My contract was,

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I lived on that contract.

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Were you shocked by that? Or did you...

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-I was pissed off.

-Yeah.

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I wasn't that much attached to Vogue.

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And I found it a little hard to do fashion photographs.

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It was a time when it was hard to be an American.

0:52:200:52:24

We're driving in the richest city in the world,

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and all you've got is potholes.

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Klein has continued making films and taking pictures

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in a maverick, fiercely independent career which spans more than half a century.

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Today he's one of the most collected photographers in the world,

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and still takes a close interest in new versions of his work,

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meeting up with his New York dealer to approve new prints

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of some of his most popular images.

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I thought the most interesting thing about this was all the mist...

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The steam atmosphere in the room.

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That must be quite hard to photograph.

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We used cinema smoke...

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..floating around.

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It made it interesting for me to print, I know that.

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I asked them to pose a bit like fashion models.

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They were afraid that I'd be making fun of them.

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But when they saw the photograph,

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they thought they looked beautiful.

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I think they look beautiful myself.

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And sexy.

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As well as producing new prints,

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Klein's determination to constantly revisit his work,

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has led him to paint the photographic contact sheets

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of some of his most iconic images.

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Using his paintbrush to remind us of the way the perfect picture

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was once selected in a pre-digital age.

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There's a William Klein aesthetic.

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It's a multi-disciplinary approach.

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It's exactly what you want to see.

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You do actually want to see an image-maker

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exploring different ways of making images.

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And at the Tate Modern exhibition, in one of the most dramatic rooms,

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these painted contacts are being displayed on a spectacular scale.

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So there's your famous picture of the boy with the gun.

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And you decide to take the two frames. Because that's the famous...

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Yes. Two frames because everybody knows this photograph, here.

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In showing two photographs,

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you can see these kids are posing for me.

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Laughing, actually.

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Among the painted contacts, is one of Klein's most famous images.

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That was quite controversial

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when you took that picture the first time, wasn't it?

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Yeah, yeah.

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Her smoking a cigarette like that.

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Smoking a cigarette like that.

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For fashion, you had to have a cigarette holder and gloves.

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And this was published in all the Vogues except American Vogue.

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They didn't publish it in American Vogue because...?

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She is smoking like a sailor.

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Not elegant.

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-And was she supposedly modelling that hat?

-Yeah...

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That was the idea.

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I was doing hat shots.

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What happened to her?

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She died. She had a cancer.

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What was her...

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Her name? Evelyn Tripp.

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You know, in those days, people didn't know the names of models.

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Models were not stars...with names.

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Today they're like movie stars.

0:55:560:55:58

William continues to take pictures of the next generation of fashion stars.

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His imaginative eye

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is still highly prized as a way of getting noticed

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in today's imagine-saturated world.

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In recent years, he has been a regular contributor

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to the American fashion magazine Harper's Bazaar.

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He has a way of showing fashion...

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It's almost because he doesn't care,

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that it produces something that is so extraordinary.

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At the opening night of the Tate Modern show,

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William plays the role of genial host,

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enjoying a bit of high-speed mingling.

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But, as ever, he's always camera-in-hand,

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documenting the moment.

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Now well into this 80s,

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William Klein is one of the last survivors of a generation

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who shaped the art of 20th century photography.

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And he shows no sign of giving up.

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He's got such a strength about him.

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You can't imagine getting on his wrong side.

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But at the same time you know he's a real softie.

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-You look handsome now.

-You did a miracle.

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You look handsome.

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He's just...one of a kind.

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You got a good haircut.

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There are no rules in creativity.

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Klein recognised that from the word go.

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Take my picture.

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I think all photographers have got this streak of energy in them

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that other people don't seem to have.

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I'm up here. What are you photographing?

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OK, thank you.

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-On three. Ahh! Thank you.

-You're welcome.

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William. Look at you.

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You...you...you're looking good, right?

0:58:000:58:02

No, I don't look good.

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After a creative life spanning over 60 years,

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his passion for making images, remains as strong as ever.

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As does his determination to do things his way.

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