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We all like to think we're getting a fair deal for our money, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
whether we're buying, selling or taking out a loan. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
And when times are hard it matters even more. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
But many of the deals on offer could cause you real problems. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
Some could even wreck your life. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
ALL CHANT: Say no to payday loans. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Coming up, the controversy over payday loans - | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
we look at easy credit on the high street. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
The man in the Money Shop | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
just told me he's never seen a payday loan application be refused. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
How one couple's worst deal turned out to be an illegal fraud | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
that left them £40,000 out of pocket. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
It was just...absolutely horrendous, every day was...was a nightmare. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
And how dealing with a loan shark can have violent consequences. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
He beat me about my head and he took the money that I had. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
With the cost of living shooting up, many of us | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
are finding it increasingly difficult to make our money | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
stretch to the end of each month. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
But in these times of crisis there are companies out there | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
promising a great deal - or so they say. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
Wonga.com offers cash loans. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
What's refreshing about wonga.com is that YOU control the loan. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
Payday loans - as they're known - claim to provide | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
a speedy solution for life's little cash emergencies. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
You can walk into the shop, or log in online, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
and within minutes the cash you need is in your pocket. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
It's so quick and simple. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
There's nothing to fax and no extra paperwork to send. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
Sounds easy. But with the highest interest rates topping | 0:01:37 | 0:01:40 | |
an eye-watering 4,000% APR, payday loans have earned | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
a reputation for sucking people into a spiral of debt | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
and leaving many believing they're the worst deal they ever made. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
You're borrowing just before you've got paid | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
so you're already spending next month's wages. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
So if you can't then pay that loan back out of next month's wages | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
then you have to start borrowing from the following month's wages | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
and it's very easy to get into a spiral of debt where you're just | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
taking loan after loan out to pay back the previous month's debt. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
And that is exactly what happened to Richard Merritt from West London. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Like so many of us, Richard's salary never seemed to go far enough | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
and he took a series of payday loans | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
and ended up thousands of pounds in debt. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
His first loan was £250 | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
but he then realised he needed more. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I had to take out another one | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
because I was paying back the interest on the first loan, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
which made me then short of money, erm, to pay me other bills. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
So I took out another one to cover the interest of that one. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
And...so it went on. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
The financial burden of paying off his payday loans | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
meant Richard lost his flat and had to move in with his sister. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
It also means he has to cut down his household spending | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
to the very minimum. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
Just the basics here. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
My weekly shop I probably get done for about £15. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
Taking a payday loan is becoming more common in the UK. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
John Fairhurst runs a free debt-management company. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
He's worried that borrowers are getting hooked on a monthly loan to tide them over, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
without realising the consequences. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
The rates of interest are many hundreds of per cent, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
which is very high if you're using these things on a regular basis. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
On a one-off basis people may consider it's a small price to pay | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
for an easy process, but what we're seeing is people who | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
take out multiple payday loans repeatedly, and the cost of that is extortionate. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Over two years Richard took out ten payday loans. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:43 | |
As bills came in he found he needed to go online | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
and apply for a loan just to stay financially afloat. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
He took out multiple payday loans from different companies | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
all at once. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
At one point, the high interest on his loans meant he had to pay £1,000 in one month | 0:03:55 | 0:04:01 | |
and the payday loan companies were chasing him for payment. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
They threatened to ring me at work, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
which was sort of a bit embarrassing. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
You tell them to stop ringing you at work but they're still persistently doing it. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:15 | |
Put me under a lot of stress. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
Richard turned to a free debt management service for help. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
I got in contact with them, explained my situation, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
and they were very sympathetic. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
Went through my debts with me and found out exactly how much I owed, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:31 | |
which at the time was over £5,000, which was quite frightening. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
Richard borrowed from around ten different companies. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
At the point he hit real financial difficulties, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
he owed between £1,500 and £2,000. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
In a few months, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
that went up to that figure of £5,000 | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
because of the high interest rates and charges for the payments he missed. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:55 | |
The debt-management company supported Richard | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
and negotiated with the payday loan companies a monthly payment of 100, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
which Richard can afford. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
He no longer uses payday loans. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It would be hard to find credit more expensive than a payday loan. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
If you have alternative sources of credit and you need a loan, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
then you should look there first. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
What payday loan companies should be doing is making sure they understand their customer. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
As soon as they walk into the door or come onto the website they carry out a thorough fact-find, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
they understand what other debts they've got and in some cases they turn them away. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
I definitely wouldn't recommend anybody take out a payday loan. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
It was the worst thing I ever did. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Coming up, we visit payday loan shops on the high street | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
and see what people can expect if they're tempted to apply. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
The man in the Money Shop just told me that he's never seen a payday loan application be refused. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:48 | |
When you apply for a loan, the deal might involve an arrangement fee. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
It's perfectly legal. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
But some illegal companies are taking advantage of this practice, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
demanding upfront fees to arrange loans that never arrive. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
That's what happened to Colin and Julie Stoneley from Surrey. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
Since 2003 they've run a llama trekking company | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
out of their rented cottage in Guildford. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
But when a local pub came up for sale, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
they thought it would be the perfect opportunity to expand the business. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
Instead it turned out to be their worst deal. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Part of the financing involved mortgaging our house in Spain. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
So we tried various Spanish banks - remortgaging in Spain is almost unheard of - | 0:06:32 | 0:06:40 | |
and eventually found an ad which was running in the Times | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
and the Telegraph week after week | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
for a company called Gresham Finance. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
The company had plush offices in central London | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
and was headed by entrepreneur Edward Davenport. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
Colin and Julie were impressed, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
and after a meeting with Davenport's second-in-command, Peter Riley, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
they decided to borrow the extra £300,000 they needed to buy the pub. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
There was an upfront fee, as I remember, of 3,500 to start with. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:17 | |
Then we paid a similar fee for something else, and we then funded | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
various things, the surveyor's trip to Spain and other bits and pieces. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:28 | |
You know, so...the total was about £14,000. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
With the agreement in place and the loan on its way, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
the Stoneleys handed in their notice on the cottage | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
and packed up all their belongings ready for the move. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
But on the day of completion, the money didn't arrive. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
We obviously were very, very concerned about this, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
we phoned and said, "What's happening?" because we had our whole home packed up in a van, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:55 | |
the people selling the pub had all their belongings packed up | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
and obviously the people they were buying from were in the same position. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
Colin and Julie rang Peter Riley, the man they'd been dealing with at Gresham Finance, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:08 | |
who told them that there'd been a hitch with the money, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
but it would be in their account in a couple of days. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
At that time I think we actually believed there'd been a hitch | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
so at that point I don't think we felt...in danger, if you like, of anything, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:24 | |
we were just a bit concerned, bit shocked. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
And the money was going to be there on Monday. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
The Stoneleys arranged to stay at a friend's house for the weekend. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
But when Monday arrived, the promised money didn't. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
We were told the money would be there on Friday, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
and then we were told the money would be there the next Friday, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
and this situation continued... | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
well, it continued for three months basically, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
by which time we'd moved all our belongings into a shipping container, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
the landlord of the pub was back here running the pub, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
all the other people in the chain hadn't been able to move, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
and it was just a disaster, wasn't it, really? | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
Emotionally, I think... | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
..just...our whole life was just so difficult during that period. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:17 | |
It was awful. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
It was only because of support from friends and family that we got through it. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
To make matters worse, the other people in the chain started chasing Colin and Julie for money, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:31 | |
demanding that they pay all the extra expenses caused by the delay. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
The sort of things you're liable for. This is further up the chain. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
Lost holiday due to uncertainly of situation. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Two lots of removals. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
Litigation costs. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:46 | |
Council tax for rental property. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
-Failure to complete at the right time. -That was £10,000. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
The other finance thing we had to put in place for Spain, 6,500, and so on. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
-Interest for failing to complete. -Was another £10,000. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
The Stoneleys ended up having to pay almost £40,000 extra | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
to cover fees and expenses for the other people in the chain. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
And to make matters worse they were still living in their friend's spare room with their lives on hold. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:18 | |
I don't know how we got through it, to be honest, it was just absolutely horrendous, every day was a nightmare | 0:10:18 | 0:10:26 | |
because you didn't know what was going to happen - | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
we were facing total financial ruin, erm... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
or we were going to get the money that day and move in and everything would be all right. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
And, um... | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Yeah, it was quite tough. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
By this stage Colin and Julie were starting to get suspicious | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
and decided to pay Gresham a visit. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
Well, we went up to Portland Place, where their office was, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
and we sat in the foyer all afternoon and we called Peter a few times | 0:11:01 | 0:11:10 | |
and he said he was on his mobile, he was out of the office. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
At about 4:10 we rang him again on his mobile and started to climb the stairs. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:19 | |
And he said, "I'm still not in the office," | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
and by this time we could actually hear his voice through the door. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
We pushed the door of his office open | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
and said, as we faced him on the mobile to us, "Didn't think you were in the office, Peter." | 0:11:27 | 0:11:34 | |
But even though they'd just caught him in a lie, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
once again Peter Riley managed to convince the Stoneleys that the money was on its way | 0:11:36 | 0:11:42 | |
and that if they could just wait a few more days everything would be resolved. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
By this stage I think... Did we smell a rat? We weren't happy but it still seemed very plausible. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:54 | |
He was extremely plausible as a conman. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
The penny finally dropped | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
when Colin saw an article in Private Eye magazine | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
linking Edward Davenport and the Portland Place offices | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
to a suspected loan fraud. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
And that night I wrote a letter which said, "We've been promised this..." | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
and I listed the various promises, and I said, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
"Unless you return our costs in full, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:22 | |
"or supply the money by Friday, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
"I will go to the FSA and the police." | 0:12:27 | 0:12:34 | |
And by return of post we had a cheque for £14,000. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:39 | |
Which... | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
..I think we were very lucky. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Even though they got their Advance Fee back, Colin and Julie | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
were still nearly £40,000 out of pocket thanks to Gresham Finance. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
And it wasn't long before the company caught the eye of the Serious Fraud Office. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
When we started investigating Gresham we found their own records showed | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
that between about 2007 and 2009 there'd been up to 100 victims | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
and they had lost between them up to about £4 million in just the advance fees. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:18 | |
But it's not just businesspeople borrowing thousands who can fall prey to this kind of trap. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:24 | |
Fraudsters will target anyone who is desperate for money, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
offering loans in return for a so-called arrangement fee, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
typically between £50 and £100. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
But once the fee's been paid, the loan never arrives. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
In fact, last year over 3,000 people complained to | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
the Office of Fair Trading after getting involved with a loan scam - | 0:13:42 | 0:13:47 | |
that's an increase of 50% from the year before. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
In the time of a recession this is an ideal opportunity for fraudsters to prey on victims. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
It's important to understand what you're supposed to get for your money. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
If you're borrowing from one of the high street banks | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
you can be confident that if they say there's an upfront fee then that's a legitimate charge. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
But if you are in any doubt whatsoever, I would say don't pay anyone any money, be very careful, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
and know the person that you're trying to borrow from. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
Edward Davenport and Peter Riley | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
were each jailed for seven years and eight months. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
It kind of gave us the justice we wanted, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
the proof that actually we weren't bad people... | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
You know, because it did make us feel...like we were really bad people | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
because of all the other people's lives that were affected. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
Colin and Julie eventually managed to get the funding together | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
to buy the pub, although they'll never get back | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
the £40,000 they had to pay out for the delay. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
It was a horrendous experience that dragged on and on for months, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
taxing on our health and horrible for everyone, emotionally, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
financially, everything. And... | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
..I'm just really pleased that the people involved are behind bars for a few years. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:09 | |
One of the worst deals anyone could ever make is to get involved with a loan shark. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
That's what happened to Andrew. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
That's not his real name and we've also disguised his voice. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
He borrowed £1,000 from a mysterious friend of a friend. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
It's absolutely totally wrecked my life. Shattered. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:36 | |
To a million pieces. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
Andrew's problems started when his car broke down. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
With no way of getting to work, he needed cash to fix it, fast. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
But, with a large loan already in place and a poor credit rating, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
Andrew knew he couldn't borrow from the bank. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
A friend introduced him to a man who could help. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
I was very impressed. The gentleman was smartly dressed, he was extremely friendly, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:05 | |
he sympathised with my situation | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
and I thought what a... | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
I thought what a really nice guy he was. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Andrew borrowed £1,000, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
and agreed to pay back £2,000 in instalments of £150 a week. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
He was told, if he missed a payment, that was OK, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
it would just double up the following week. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
As far as I was concerned what it meant was that, if I didn't pay him the 150 quid on that particular week, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:38 | |
he would accept a higher payment the following week. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
The man told Andrew that each week he should expect a call from a withheld number. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
The caller would give him a codename and tell him | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
when and where to bring the repayment. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
I knew it was not 100% legitimate but I couldn't do anything else, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:58 | |
and it was only because I wanted to go to work that I took it, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
and I thought, well, "You'll be OK." | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
The first couple of weeks Andrew managed to make the repayments, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
but in the third week his rent was due and he didn't have enough spare cash. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
He went to the meeting place | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
and told the man he didn't have the money that time. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
He said, "No, no, it doesn't work like that." He said, "You can't not pay me.' | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
And he just grabbed me by the throat and started assaulting me. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
He said, "You're going to have to learn, when I tell you you pay me, you pay me." | 0:17:27 | 0:17:33 | |
And, er, my immediate thought was fear, terrible fear. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:40 | |
He beat me about my head and, er, he took the money that I had. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:46 | |
And he went to his car and drove off. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
Andrew was desperate to repay the loan as fast as possible, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
and decided to get hold of the money he needed | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
by taking out a log-book loan against the value of his car. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
I thought it's better to owe those people than to owe the guy who had attacked me. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
I needed to get him out of my head because it was... it was making me a nervous wreck. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
So Andrew took a log-book loan | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
and told the man he was going to pay off the debt in full. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
But he didn't expect what was about to happen. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
Still to come, we'll hear how Andrew was forced to flee his home | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
after the loan sharks turned really nasty. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
They pulled me out of the car onto the floor and they started kicking me. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
And how bank charges nearly caused this pensioner to lose his house. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
And I can't tell you what that was like. It felt dreadful. Sorry. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
The payday-loan business is booming. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
In the last three years, the amount of money borrowed more than doubled | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
from 900 million to two billion. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
Vacant high-street shops are filling up with lenders - | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
in a single year the Money Shop opened 80 new branches. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
We sent a researcher, Alice, down the high street | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
to find out what people are told when they ask about a loan. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:14 | |
This is a fairly ordinary South London high street, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
it's not a particularly wealthy area, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
and there's lots of different shops targeting the kind of people who would use payday loans. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
I'm going to ask to borrow £200, saying that I'm on a part-time salary and uncertain income. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:28 | |
And if they ask I'm going to say I had problems with debt in the past. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
Alice didn't formerly apply for any loans | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and didn't complete any of the paperwork required by the lenders. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
However, she got an idea of what they might be willing to offer. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
The first shop Alice visited was Speedy Cash. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Typically a £200 loan for 30 days from here | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
will cost £50 in interest and fees. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
I've just been in and they didn't really ask any questions, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
they seemed very ready to give me whatever money I wanted. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
Speedy Cash told Alice, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:00 | |
if she couldn't pay back the entire loan come payday, she could just pay back the £50 interest | 0:20:00 | 0:20:07 | |
and roll the original debt over to the next month. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
On that they'd charge me another £50 so then I'd owe £100 for my £200 credit. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
They said I could do this up to four times, by which time you're paying back double what you've borrowed. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
The second shop was pawnbroker Albemarle Bond. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
They charge a lower fee of £28 to borrow £200 for 30 days. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
I needed to show that I was earning £700, but only last month. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
I didn't need to prove that I had a regular income of £700. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
And they offered to lend me £300 the first time and then £700 the following time, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
even though she knew that that was my entire monthly income. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Next on the high street is another pawnbroker, H&T. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
They were the cheapest, charging £26 to borrow £200 for 30 days. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
They said that they don't really do credit checks as such. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
They'll have a little look at your bank statement but that's as far as their credit check goes, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
so there wasn't that much of an effort to make sure that I could theoretically repay. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
The next shop is the Money Shop, the UK's largest chain | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
of high-street cash lenders, with over 420 stores nationwide. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
The man in the Money Shop just told me that he's never seen a payday loan application be refused, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:24 | |
no matter how bad the credit check was, which might explain why they're so popular. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:29 | |
The Money shop wanted to charge £50 interest on a £200 loan, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
which works out to over 1,400% APR. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Together with Speedy Cash, that makes the Money Shop | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
the joint most expensive place Alice visited, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
and 73 times more expensive than the average credit-card APR of around 19%. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:53 | |
You're allowed to roll over...he said a few times, he didn't really give a specific limit. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
They seemed fine with you borrowing large amounts of money. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
To be honest, the thing that I found the most shocking was that | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
they've never turned anyone down for credit, cos that really does imply | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
that they're not looking very hard at whether people can repay the amounts or not. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
We asked the companies to comment. Albemarle Bond told us... | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
The Money Shop told us... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
Speedy Cash and H&T did not respond. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
Ultimately payday-loan companies are working in the interests | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
of their shareholders. They want to make as much money as possible | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
and the best way to do that is to get people to continue taking out more credit each month. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
Unfortunately that's not what is in the best interest of the customers. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
The rise of the industry has led to a sharp increase in people | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
seeking professional debt advice after taking out payday loans. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:24 | |
In fact, in a recent survey almost half the payday-loan users questioned | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
said they thought it had actually made their financial situation worse. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
At one branch of the Citizens Advice Bureau they've been so swamped | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
they've started a campaign to get the industry shut down. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
I think it's about time that we show the payday-loan lenders in Medway | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
that we mean business, and we have to do something about the situation, | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
with over £2.5 million of debt coming through this building each week. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
Today staff from Medway CAB are demonstrating | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
outside their local Money Shop. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
ALL CHANT: Say no to payday loans. Say no to payday loans. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:05 | |
It's generated quite a lot of media attention. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
How does this shop and others like it contribute to the problem? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
I think it's clear, with the likes of Money Shop, if they've got four stores in Medway alone, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
they don't open a store if it's not going to make any money. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
This is the tip of the iceberg. There's more and more on television, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
Wonga and all the other companies, that are charging up to 4,000%. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
People don't read the print, and that's what we're doing today. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
Once you sign the contract you're chained into it, tied up into it, and there's no getting out. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
Concerns about payday loans have become so great | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
that they've been banned or interest rates capped in 15 US states | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
as well as parts of Australia and Canada. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
But consumer group Which doesn't want to see payday loans outlawed in this country. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
The reality is that there are people | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
that are going to want credit | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and if we don't have a regulated industry | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
then we're going to have a black market where it's illegal loan sharks dealing with these people | 0:24:59 | 0:25:05 | |
and that's what we don't want. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
Coming up later, alongside the rise on the high street, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
payday lending is also exploding on the internet. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
We'll see what happens when you go online to borrow cash. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
You can get into a lot of trouble without anybody knowing about it. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
Andrew borrowed £1,000 from a loan shark. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
After the man assaulted him for missing a repayment, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
Andrew raised the money to pay the man off. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
But when he tried to hand over the cash, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
he discovered he was in far deeper trouble than he could possibly have imagined. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:46 | |
We arranged to meet on an industrial estate where it was dark. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
And he pulled up alongside and got in my car and I gave him the £1,400. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
"Well done, good, good, good. So £150 next week, then." | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
I said, "Well, £150 is not due next week." | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
I said, "You've had double, which is what you asked for." | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
And he said, "No, no, no. I've told you, it doubles up. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
"You owe me £4,000." | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
Where Andrew had thought it was just the repayment amount that would double if he missed a week, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
it turned out that it was actually the entire loan. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
A couple of guys got out the car and came over. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
They pulled me out of the car, onto the floor, and they started kicking me. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
They kicked and kicked and kicked. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
I didn't know whether I was going to get out of that. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Because they didn't stop kicking. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
I knew that I'd been hurt and I thought, "I hope I can go to work." | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
HE BREATHES DEEPLY | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
Andrew suffered severe bruising and cracked ribs, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
but he was too scared to report the attack to the police. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
And the intimidation didn't end there. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
I come out one morning and all four tyres had been slashed, | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
and there was a beer mat under the wiper blade | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
with the words "you will pay" scratched into the beer mat. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:15 | |
And I thought, just get away from the house. So I fled. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
A friend helped Andrew replace his tyres | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and he decided to go and live in his car. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
I slept in the car, ate in the car, my free time was spent in the car. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:33 | |
Eventually, in desperation, Andrew plucked up the courage | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
to confide in a friend, who agreed to give him a place to stay. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
He changed his phone number and his car | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
and hasn't heard from the loan shark since. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
But he still lives in fear of being found. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
I'm afraid to go out, I still feel very threatened. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
You become afraid to visit family or return home | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
because you never know who's watching. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Andrew still feels the long-term effects of his experience. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
I did visit the doctor on one occasion and I said, "I think I'm having a nervous breakdown" | 0:28:09 | 0:28:15 | |
and he said, "You're not HAVING." He said, "You've HAD a nervous breakdown." | 0:28:15 | 0:28:21 | |
And... | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
you still feel it. I still feel it now and it's years later. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
Lending me £1,000 didn't do me a favour at all. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Most of us might think that the bank is the place to go | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
for a solution to a financial problem. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
But what do you do when it's your bank that caused the problem in the first place? | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
It's a question that's facing Howard Rutherford. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
For the last five years he's been struggling with an appalling deal | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
that's seen him fending off bailiffs, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
standing up in court and even having to sell his home. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:07 | |
And the source of his worst deal? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
His bank, HSBC. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
I feel cheated, I feel misled, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
I just feel very, very let down by a bank that I'd been with since I was 17. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:23 | |
The problems started back in 2001, when a direct debit of £76 | 0:29:24 | 0:29:29 | |
was taken from Howard's account to pay his council tax. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
At the time, he had an overdraft, but as a disabled pensioner on a low income | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
money was tight and he was already up to the limit. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
That direct debit was returned by the bank, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
and for returning it it did two things, it put me | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
over my overdraft limit and the bank charged me £27.50 for the privilege. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:53 | |
£27.50 was the beginning of a growing stack of charges | 0:29:53 | 0:29:59 | |
that mounted to over £4,500 and almost cost him his home. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
My pension was going into the bank, and there'd be a charge perhaps | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
because I'd gone over my overdraft limit. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
And, as soon as my pension went in, the bank were taking a chunk of that out. So I was having less to use. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
Then perhaps the next month there'd be another charge, and another chunk taken out by the bank. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
As his finances became more strained, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
Howard started falling behind on his mortgage payments, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
which were paid by direct debit through his HSBC account. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
The bank would simply return the direct debit without telling me that it had happened. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
And the building society would also then decide they were going to charge me a fee. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:42 | |
Howard's mortgage debt grew to nearly £10,000 in arrears and charges | 0:30:43 | 0:30:48 | |
and the building society began repossession proceedings. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
We did get to the stage finally where the order for possession had been granted | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
and the bailiffs were then instructed to apply for immediate possession. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:05 | |
I managed to get the hearing in front of the judge the morning of the possession. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
I can't tell you how I felt that particular day | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
because I was just literally... about for someone to come along | 0:31:12 | 0:31:16 | |
and say, "I'll take your keys, thank you very much," and throw me out the door. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
At the 11th hour Howard managed to get the possession order rejected. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:27 | |
I came within a gnat's whisker of someone coming along | 0:31:27 | 0:31:34 | |
and taking the keys off me and saying, "That's it, you're out." | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
And I can't tell you what that was like. It felt dreadful. Sorry. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:43 | |
It did. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
Still does. Excuse me. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Struggling to make ends meet, Howard looked around for a solution, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
and found one. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Or so he thought. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:56 | |
I'd seen in the newspapers and on the television that people were | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
reclaiming their bank charges and I thought, "Well, I've had quite a few bank charges over the years, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:06 | |
"I think I'll have a go as well." | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
Bank charges - where the bank adds on a fee for going overdrawn or for a missed payment - | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
have been around for years. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
Estimates from a few years ago suggested banks were making as much | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
as £4.7 billion a year from fees of up to £39 for a bounced cheque. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
But in 2006 a campaign began to get these charges reduced or refunded | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
on the grounds that they were unfair. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Customers who threatened court action started to win back hundreds of pounds. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
The banks were too afraid to test the cases in court in case they lost. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
They just paid out to anyone who complained. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
In the first half of 2007 alone, the banks repaid £200m in charges. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:56 | |
I got hold of my bank statements, a huge pile of them, | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
six years, as you can probably imagine, went through them piece by piece | 0:33:00 | 0:33:05 | |
and built up a picture of how much I'd been charged over those six years. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
What Howard discovered was that he'd been charged a massive 89 times, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:15 | |
amounting to over £4,500 in charges and interest on the charges. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:21 | |
There were charges for returned direct debits, there were charges for returned cheques, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:28 | |
there were charges for returned standing orders, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
there were interest charges of course, which were added to those, | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
and when I looked at all of this I was absolutely horrified. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
Howard filed his claim, hoping for a quick resolution. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
When that didn't happen he turned to solicitor Tom Brennan for help. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:48 | |
-Hello, Tom. -Hello, Howard. -Come in. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
'My initial reaction was that it's a desperate situation' | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
for a person who has no control over their money because so much of it is being taken away. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
-Have a seat. -Thanks. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
Now, which document is this? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
What I've done is I've sat down and made a breakdown of how the charges were actually applied. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:11 | |
These three fees, which amount to £260... | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Those are all on the same day, aren't they? | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
But then you start to look at the whole month itself and go back, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
and prior to that there was £180 on top of £260, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
so I was probably saying goodbye to half of my income. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-So half of your money's disappearing just on this. -Just in charges. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
Tom took Howard's case to the small claims court | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
to try to get his £4,500 back from HSBC. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
But before they could get a result, everything changed. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
The Office of Fair Trading decided to take the banks to court | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
in a test case to see if the charges were fair. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
In the small claims court the judge put a stay on Howard's case | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
while the issue was decided. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
'What that meant for Howard is that he had no way of getting his money back' | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
and this case between the OFT and the banks dragged on for two years. And so Howard was trapped in limbo. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
The legal controversy over bank charges came to an end in 2009. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:14 | |
The courts decided bank charges could not be judged unfair on their own | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
because they were part of an overall package of services provided by the banks. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:23 | |
We think bank charges are grossly unfair because the poorest or those who make mistakes pay the most. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:29 | |
The second reason is the cost to the banks for providing this money | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
is a fraction of what they charge consumers at the end of the day. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
After the ruling the banks did bow to the pressure | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
and reduced their headline charges. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
But millions of people every year are still hit with penalties | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
they can't afford. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
The only way you'll find out whether they've really reduced it significantly | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
is by looking at the total amount they're taking off consumers. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
In 2006 they took off £2.6 billion. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
And here we are five years later | 0:35:57 | 0:35:59 | |
and they're still taking over £2 billion per year. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
Shockingly, the amount banks charge for unauthorised overdrafts | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
can equate to interest rates of hundreds of thousands of per cent. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:11 | |
At the time we did our research, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
going £100 into the red unauthorised for a month with Barclays cost £88 - | 0:36:13 | 0:36:20 | |
an APR of 366,000%. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
While borrowing the same amount for 30 days without permission from Santander | 0:36:24 | 0:36:31 | |
would set you back £100 - that's over 800,000% APR. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
In response to complaints, the banks are planning to introduce | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
new measures later this year - such as texting customers when their balances are low - | 0:36:40 | 0:36:46 | |
to help them avoid bank charges. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
We think it's a step in the right direction | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
but these charges can still accrue up to hundreds of pounds | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
and we think they're still too high and still too confusing and still unfair. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
At the end of 2011, Howard finally received news | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
that, in a court hearing he didn't even know was happening, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:06 | |
a judge had thrown his case out. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
He's planning to appeal. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
We asked HSBC to comment. They told us: | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
I was hurt, annoyed, angry. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
Perhaps my gran was right, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
keeping it in a tin under the bed might be the answer. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
Payday loans are big business in the UK. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
Between 2006 and 2009 the number of loans taken out | 0:37:48 | 0:37:53 | |
quadrupled from 1.2 million to over four million. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
Many of those loans were taken out online. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
So just how easy is it to get hold of cash on the internet? | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Researcher Alice went surfing to find out. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
I've just done a search for payday loans online and there are 252 million results that have come back. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:14 | |
These slider systems that are on a lot of these websites | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
make it seem very easy, like all the cash is right there. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
Going online is the most expensive way to get a payday loan. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
Borrowing £200 over the internet for 30 days could cost up to £66 in interest and fees, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:33 | |
compared with a maximum of £50 on the high street. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
It's all about fast cash, easy cash, anonymous cash, right now. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
The fact that they tell you you can have it in your bank within an hour, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
that's like a lifeline to a desperate borrower. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
It may seem like an easy deal, but borrowing online | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
might have hidden dangers, as Joe Maloney discovered when he borrowed £150 from a company called Mr Lender | 0:38:51 | 0:38:59 | |
to pay for some repairs on his car. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:01 | |
A friend of mine told me there's these payday loan things on the internet | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
so I went onto the internet and Mr Lender come up and within an hour I had the money in my bank. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
It was so easy that Joe soon took out several more loans - | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
and then found he couldn't pay the money back. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
I lost my job so I couldn't pay them back anyway. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
When Mr Lender couldn't get hold of Joe at his old workplace | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
they did something usually saved for naughty schoolboys - they called his mum. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
I first became aware that Joe had taken out this payday loan | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
when I kept getting phone calls asking for the money. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
Mr Lender told Sue that the interest on Joe's loan was going up and up | 0:39:40 | 0:39:45 | |
but they promised to freeze it if she could just make a small payment. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
I did say to them, "Look, I'm on a pension, | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
"there is no way I've even got the amount of money you're looking for." | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
Sue agreed make a one-off payment of £10 | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
and gave her debit-card details over the phone. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:03 | |
She thought that would be the end of the matter - | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
but a week later, her mortgage payment bounced. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
I got in touch with the bank, and I realised that there were | 0:40:08 | 0:40:13 | |
various debits to this company Mr Lender. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
They'd taken the £10, as I'd agreed, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
and then they'd taken three further amounts. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
In total Mr Lender withdrew £310 from Sue's account | 0:40:24 | 0:40:29 | |
on top of the £10 she says she had agreed to. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
It seemed that rather than just make the one-off payment Sue thought she had consented to, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:39 | |
she had unwittingly agreed to more. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
We asked Mr Lender to comment. Mr Lender say... | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
Other customers of different payday-loan companies have found | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
that they have signed up to continuous payment authorities. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
CPAs allow a company to take out money whenever they want. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
So for example, if they want to take out £400 the first day | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
and you've only got £300 in your account, they'll take that £300, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
then the next day they might come back for the £100 you still owe. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Under a direct debit that's not possible, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
the company can only get money out the one time on the one day a month, | 0:41:38 | 0:41:42 | |
so customers have a lot more security with direct debits than with continuous payments. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:47 | |
Consumer Focus carried out research into continuous payment authorities | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
and found many customers had no idea that's what they were agreeing to. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:55 | |
And in 2010 the OFT banned one payday-loan company from using CPAs | 0:41:56 | 0:42:01 | |
after it repeatedly took money from customers' accounts | 0:42:01 | 0:42:05 | |
when they were already in difficulties. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:08 | |
We don't think payday loan companies are making clear to customers when they sign up | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
what actually is a continuous payment authority. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Many consumers think it's the same as a direct debit. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
The way payday-loan companies are using this is totally unfair. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
They're taking money out any day of the month | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
and taking out so much that at times the consumer doesn't have enough to live on. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
Payday loans should always be the last resort. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
If you've got to the point where you can't get to the end of the month | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
and you need to go to a payday-loan lender to tide yourself over until your next pay cheque, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
you're clearly running very close to the limit of your financial capability | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
and you can't do that month after month. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
Payday loans are absolutely dreadful. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
You know, I would worry about giving anybody a payday loan. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
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