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This programme contains some strong language.

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-The council. The organisation we love to complain about.

-All they want to do is tell you

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how much of a knob-end you are. Yeah, right.

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Quick as you can. I'll give you five minutes.

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You get quite a bit of abuse now and again -

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people shouting at you as they drive past. As if it's OUR fault.

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Councils across Scotland have endured challenging budget cuts

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while demands for public services have increased.

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The pressure has never been greater.

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I'm not really one normally for doing house clearances,

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but this is, by far, one of the worst ones I've seen.

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The resources out there have just not been there for them.

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There's nobody to help me. Nobody. They don't understand at all.

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Argyll & Bute's council on Scotland's west coast

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delivers those crucial services to some of the UK's most remote areas.

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A wee bit of west coast liquid sunshine.

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-It's not coming.

-You're joking me.

-Because of the weather.

-What?!

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Get the clothes on NOW.

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From island staff working up to six jobs to keep those services going...

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It started off I was just doing the roads,

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then they added the grave digging and the grass cutting at the school.

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..to those dedicated to reaching clients

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hundreds of miles from the nearest cities...

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..these are the staff on the front line.

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Argyll & Bute Council covers a vast tract of Scotland's

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wild countryside and coastal land.

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The majority of the council's residents

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live in settlements of less than 3,000 people, or outside towns

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or villages entirely, and 80% live within just one mile of the sea.

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This unique landscape makes Argyll & Bute one of the most beautiful

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areas of Scotland.

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But it also means that many council workers have to travel long

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distances by road and water to do their jobs.

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In such a sparsely populated territory,

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the council has to work creatively to deliver the essential services

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on which their inhabitants rely.

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Good afternoon, you're through to Argyll & Bute Council.

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But like any local authority, they also have to address

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all the...inventive inquiries of their residents.

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Hi, um, it's a funny one.

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-My bin has disappeared.

-Oh, right, OK.

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THEY CHUCKLE

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I've got a whole lot of coat hangers - plastic ones.

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Do I put them in the recycling or the general waste?

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-Hello, can I speak to Gaz, please?

-I'm sorry, he's not there.

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-Will he be on his mobile, or is it he's on the bog?

-I don't...

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Oh! I don't even know his mobile, I'm sorry!

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I don't know his mobile - or intimate details like that!

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But there is one call to the council no-one likes to make.

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I'm just phoning up, are you able to pay a parking fine on this number?

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Parking wardens regularly make the top ten of the most hated

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professions in Scotland,

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alongside bankers, lawyers and estate agents.

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But parking fines generate over 200,000 annually for the council.

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In a town like Oban, where the population swells

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from 8,500 to 25,000 during the tourist season,

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parking wardens like David keep the town moving.

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It's really quite busy, there's a lot of cars,

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a lot of tourists coming into the town.

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It can get a wee bit harum-scarum, for sure.

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Er, just people constantly circling, trying to get parked.

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See, this is what I mean. Somebody has parked here...

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..on a single yellow line, and bought a ticket. It's just wrong.

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On every level, it's wrong.

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He's a local guy, and he knows the rules.

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That's what's called just taking the Michael.

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Dishing out parking tickets means David is no stranger to conflict.

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All they want to do is complain and moan

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and tell you how unfair it is and how much of a knob-end you are,

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you know? Yeah, right. It's easier just to agree with people.

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-How you doing?

-Not bad. Ticket.

-Mm-hm.

-For what?

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-Parking on a single yellow line.

-There was a line of cars there,

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-that's why I parked.

-But you shouldn't be parked there.

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You're as well parking somewhere where it's legal.

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-Everywhere in Oban is shite to park.

-It's getting that way, pal, aye.

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You take it easy. See you, pal.

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CAR ROARS

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It kind of stops them in their tracks

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because they're maybe waiting for you to go, "Who are you talking to?

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"Who the fuck are you talking to?"

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The bad part of the job obviously is dishing tickets out,

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but if there's no traffic wardens in the town, then it would just

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be mad, it would be absolute madness, absolute madness.

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One of David's main tasks is to keep Oban's busy high street

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clear of the heavy tourist traffic and the constant deliveries

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to local businesses, so the town doesn't grind to a halt.

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It's out of the bay. It's not parked correctly within the bay.

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And he's actually on the double yellows,

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he's that far out of the bay.

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And that's what causes huge congestion - huge.

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It's a delicate balance to make sure the local shops get the stock

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-but the street keeps moving.

-Help the community, you know.

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Help the Aged!

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You know, if these guys aren't delivering to businesses,

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the businesses are going to close, so you try to give them a wee

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bit extra, but fair play to them, it has moved as soon as they have

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seen they needed to move,

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whereas others just don't bother their backside.

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-Tell me you're just about to move.

-I am.

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Good man, that's the correct question.

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It's double yellows, buddy.

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-Hello, missus, how are you?

-OK.

-Good stuff.

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-I do have...

-That's no problem at all, I seen it. Take it easy.

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I absolutely love the job.

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I surprise myself how much I actually enjoy it.

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How much I enjoy just getting out and speaking to people. It's great.

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COINS RATTLE

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-Bingo.

-Jackpot.

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I've been doing this now for just under two years,

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and it was a bit of a test for me.

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A lot of people were taking bets on whether I was going to last.

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BEEPING

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However, I proved them all wrong.

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BEEPING, HE CHUCKLES

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I've got all their number plates, don't you worry, I'll get them!

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HE CHUCKLES

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18 miles south of Oban lies Dunoon, on the Cowal peninsula.

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Here, like the rest of Argyll & Bute,

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the council work in partnership with NHS Highland,

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pooling much-needed resources and funds.

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Health visitors work with families to give pre-school-age children

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the best possible start in life.

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But across Scotland,

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a shortage in staff is leaving health visitors stretched.

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Sue and Jen work within the Cowal hospital in Dunoon.

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-DOORBELL JINGLE

-Liam Gallagher. So, that's to remind me at ten o'clock,

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concert tickets go on sale today at ten o'clock.

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-No-one sells out when I go to a concert!

-I'm trying to think who you'd like.

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-Sue is a qualified salsa teacher. I'm a tap dancer.

-All right, OK, give me your hands.

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When I step forward on this foot, you step back. Back. And replace.

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Out here. OK, you walk forward, and I'll go under.

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-What do I do now?

-You let go. You would finish up that way.

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-OK. Done.

-Oh, my goodness!

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So... We'll have a team-building day and I'll do you a salsa class.

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I would love that!

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Sue is en route to the first client of the day.

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I qualified in 1990. So I'm going for my long-service award!

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We're heading off to see a wee lad who's recently had

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a diagnosis of autism. As far as I understand it, his behaviour

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tends to be quite boisterous so he could be all over the place.

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Mum is quite a talker, so she'll not be shy in coming forward,

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and that's great. The parents may well have been worried about it,

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but when they hear the words "this is what your child has",

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then it can be quite traumatic for them.

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Park here, I think, but there is a rather large puddle.

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Autism is on the rise,

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and now affects more than one child in every 100 across Scotland.

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Hi, how you doing? Hello! Wow, look at you! Hiya!

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-I like this.

-Yeah, his letters. What letter is that?

-Dub.

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W, that's right. What else is there?

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Em...

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What one's that?

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I knew that there wasn't something quite right,

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development has just not been that fast.

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He's taking a bit longer with everything, with his walking

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and everything, his speech, and finally we got the agreement

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six months ago that he is autistic, so that we can get everybody to

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kind of help us and know that it is not just his speech that is

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slow, his developments are all catching up on him as well.

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It has been stressful,

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but the smiles and everything make up for it.

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Autism affects a child's social development and learning,

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meaning Jamie will have difficulties interacting

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and communicating with those around him.

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With the diagnosis a recent one, Sue is keen to look today at where

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mum Charlene might need some additional help.

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Right, so, learning and developing, I think

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there's a few things in there that were causing a little bit

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-of a blockage.

-Yes, his speech.

-OK.

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So, developmentally, language is a bit of a wee block just know. OK.

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Righty-ho, I think he's a pretty confident, outgoing wee boy!

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Yes, he's too confident at times!

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So, if I get my diary we can do that in a wee tick.

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-He does prefer being by himself quite often.

-That's grand.

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Is there anything...? You want to sort him? Sure, that's fine.

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-HE SCREAMS

-Come on.

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"Oh, Mummy, I'm back." Hello.

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Is there anything in that thing

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you think is specifically important?

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The thing that worries me the most is his temperament

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and he's still head-butting quite a lot of things.

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He's doing it at nursery as well.

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-JAMIE YELLS

-If he gets frustrated and doesn't understand... Just leave him.

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Sometimes if he's going to have one, you can try and tickle him

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or try and do something, depending on the frame of mind that he's in,

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and sway him away from what he was actually getting

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frustrated at, but other times, if he's too far gone then that's him.

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-Plan B.

-Yes.

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JAMIE CHUCKLES

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-What are you doing?

-Jamie, what ARE you doing? Right, I think that's us.

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It was a bit distracting.

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Mum was a bit distracted by the wee lad, but she did well.

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Diagnosis was obviously a bit of a bombshell.

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We need to start building their confidence and giving them

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the support that they need, so we're looking, then, at maybe getting

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one-to-one support for them. It ends up being a multi-agency jigsaw.

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As part of my role as health visitor, it's up to me

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to co-ordinate that jigsaw

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and make sure that things get done to help him.

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An autism diagnosis can be a very daunting

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and emotional time for parents,

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something Sue's colleague Jen understands more than most.

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I remember when my son got diagnosed, and it was actually

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the nursery teacher that picked it up. It's enormous,

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it affects everything. It's not just communication,

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it's their dexterity, their coordination.

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It's a long, long road for parents.

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And I remember being in tears that this woman had had the audacity

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to say that my son could possibly be on the autistic spectrum.

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And I remember phoning some of my friends

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and being absolutely devastated, absolutely devastated.

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I think you've got another level of awareness or knowledge

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that a lot of parents may not have. And you get this piece of news and then you're left.

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You are. And I don't feel, when I look back now to 2009,

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that we were properly supported with that diagnosis.

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There's obviously much more aftercare now.

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The next stage is to pull in some of that support

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from across the council and social care partnership

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to help Jamie communicate better with those around him.

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I mean, it's all about making things better, there's no point

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in us slogging away on our own,

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because we're not going to make the difference on our own.

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We need to do it with everybody in the other agencies,

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and they need to be aware of the situation the same as we do,

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-because we're all part of the solution.

-Yeah.

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Bringing services to the islands is challenging.

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But with 17% of the Argyll & Bute population living on islands,

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the council must attempt to deliver the same services

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as those on the mainland.

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40% of Argyll & Bute's road networks are on the islands,

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and today, the roads department are on Jura, where the

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200-strong population are served by one single-track, bumpy road.

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It may be the only road in Jura, but it's the main road!

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It's also a principal lifeline route, between the ferry

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and the main areas of population.

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Callum and David, from the council's roads department,

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are carrying out an inspection of Jura's eight-mile-long road.

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Aye, well. This has held up for a while,

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but once the surface has broken again...

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Across the island, it is a losing battle.

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But this is one of the major concerns about here,

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the amount of rainfall that we do get.

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It's a bit kind of chewy, isn't it, Davy?

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-I mean, it's certainly flexible, but...

-Aye.

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-..once the water penetrates it, it's going to break away again.

-Yeah.

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Hardest to get to, hardest to fix, and...

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..seems to be the most susceptible to damage again.

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-About 200,000 to 300,000 to actually fix this?

-Yes.

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That would just blow the budget, if we did that.

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This is a single-track road. You know, there's no solid base.

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The whole of this section is basically moving all the time.

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It is quite literally a flexible road.

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It's basically floating on peat.

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Digging out the peat would literally cost millions. It's just not a practical option.

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It's millions the council does not have.

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The annual repair budget across the entire region is £5.5 million.

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We're in a position just now

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where we are

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struggling to hold the fort with the resources we have.

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The islands exacerbate that - you know, we have vast distances

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between our depots, so it's not easy to sort of move resources around.

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A six-strong team have had to be brought over to Jura,

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to patch up the worst section of road.

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A job that would take half a day on the mainland

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will take three days on the island,

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because of the logistics to get the tarmac delivered.

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It has to be hot when laid,

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so must travel the same day -

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a four-hour journey, via two ferries.

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The ferry we get now to Islay is CalMac,

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and the one from Islay to Jura

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is a council one. It's council-owned.

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So we're going to get to Jura, with the tar, some time this afternoon.

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Heat it up, make it quite warm,

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so it lasts the journey.

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Any delay to the journey

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will risk the tarmac setting,

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slowing down the job and pushing up the budget.

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Sometimes we do about six or seven loads.

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But when it's the islands it's basically one load, and it's a long day for one load.

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-What's that, 12 o'clock...?

-Yeah.

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The boats'll just be about arriving, it'll be another hour and a half.

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While they wait for the tarmac, David and Callum inspect the work so far.

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This has a budget of £45,000.

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For that, on this single-track road, we'll probably be able to surface three quarters of a kilometre.

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-HE LAUGHS

-It's pretty bumpy.

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It's a hell of a lot of waiting around for...

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You know, what you're taking three days to do is...

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-..you know, a good morning's work...

-Aye, that's right.

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-..in the real world, eh?

-Yes.

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That's what you get for living on the edge of the known universe!

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With the tarmac finally here,

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the crew can get to work.

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That's perfect, aye. Bang on.

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I couldn't have done a better job myself!

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They want 40 laid on the middle,

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so we measure that with a bit of tape.

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Technical branch!

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All island traffic comes to a halt

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until that work is done.

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We'll get a traffic jam now.

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Cars on both sides waiting.

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This is the only road in and out of Jura, there's only one single road.

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You get a bit of abuse now and then -

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people shouting at you as they drive past. As if it's OUR fault.

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-Go on...!

-CYCLIST: Spoil it for you.

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That might make it better, you might roll it out better for us!

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It's a constant battle -

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we try and do our best with the budget we have available,

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but it's never enough.

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The increasing costs of Scotland's growing, ageing population

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has led to a rise in the number of community nurses nationwide.

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The service, funded by the council

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and the NHS's Health And Social Care Partnership,

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now helps treat more patients at home, instead of in hospital,

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which is both better for the patients' wellbeing

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and reduces costs.

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OK, are we ready to go?

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-OFF-CAMERA: Packhorse.

-Packhorse!

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Packhorse on a Friday morning.

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Community nurse Gillian

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has worked on the Isle of Bute and Rothesay for the last 20 years,

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and deals with a huge range of care needs for her patients.

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Our first patient's called Annie, and she is 74 years old...?

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A lady with a great character.

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Sort of a smallholder as well, she has, erm...

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goats, chickens, ducks,

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the odd peacock, I think,

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and a collie dog, who you'll meet.

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Temptation is to go and try and touch them - they probably would run away, wouldn't they?

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Hello!

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You speaking?

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Hello...

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Hello.

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-Hello!

-SHE LAUGHS

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Hello...! Hello, Meggy-Meggy-Meggy!

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Hi...

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Come to join the party.

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I'm all right, thanks.

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-Ah...

-I've got flies in my hair.

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Causing chaos, eh?

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She wants somebody to play with her, with that ball. I get that from morn to night.

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I was chatting to your cattle. But they weren't chatting back.

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-This is no' part of the NHS, Meg.

-No!

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This isn't part of the process. Go on...

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Get!

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Right...

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-MEG YAPS

-Ah!

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GILLIAN LAUGHS

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-Meg!

-Right, down.

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Down. Good girl.

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-Right, see you Monday.

-Monday.

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-MEG BARKS

-I'll keep her in...

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Gillian travels over 140 miles a week,

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seeing up to six patients a day.

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Right. Next visit is to a gentleman called John.

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John has got lung carcinoma, so he's got a lung cancer.

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And that was diagnosed four months ago.

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He consented to referral to our team, the ECCT,

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which is the extended community care team,

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and he starts his journey with us.

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I always think that's part of the reason why I got this job,

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my ability to carry equipment and bags!

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It's a good ability.

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Treating patients at home, rather than in hospital -

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even those with a more complex illness like cancer -

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is more cost-effective.

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It's going to be a gorgeous day today, John.

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Yeah.

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All that vitamin D!

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OK...

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I'll just get organised and do your legs, if that's OK.

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Yeah?

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So how long have you lived here now, John?

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About nine years.

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Right...

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Right.

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It's a lifestyle, isn't it, being at sea? That career.

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Can you?

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SHE LAUGHS

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It's just a matter of getting the medication

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properly set out for his regime, and

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a staff that can oversee his, er...

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..administration of his medication, so that he's taking it regularly.

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-OFF-CAMERA: Do you think presently he CAN still live at home?

-Yeah.

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He will have good days and bad days.

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-See those two little white ones?

-Aye...

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Those are important. That's your steroids.

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Right.

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Yeah, you do.

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If you feel like you ARE going to nod off watching the television,

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try and elevate your legs, it'll do them good.

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While you're taking those, I'll just finish getting organised...

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Have you got your Telecare bangle on...?

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That's good.

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SHE CHUCKLES

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OK...

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-We'll catch up with you tomorrow, John.

-OK.

-Right? Bye.

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John lives on his own, his family live miles away.

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He is only 64 years old.

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He should really have a good chunk of life still ahead of him.

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He should be retired now and enjoying life.

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It's a poor prognosis.

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There isn't any active treatment for John,

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so we'll support him as well as we can at home in the meantime.

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There are over 750 patients annually

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in end of life care across Argyll & Bute.

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OFF-CAMERA: Is it hard in your profession to deal with death?

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It's good, it's positive, to be able to support that person.

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Make sure that they're symptom-free, and that you listen to their wishes.

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The wishes of the patient, the wishes of John.

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But, yes, it can be really sad.

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On an early-morning ferry to the island of Islay

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are two members of the adult learning disability service -

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speech therapist Carole-Anne and learning disability nurse Angela.

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We see people with Down's syndrome, autism...

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Lots of people with learning disabilities have other health conditions,

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so you might have a learning disability but also have elements of dyspraxia, or cerebral palsy.

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We pretty much always take the seven o'clock ferry,

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cos otherwise we wouldn't be over in Islay till lunchtime, and then

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wouldn't get much of a working day in, so, yeah,

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we usually take the seven o'clock ferry, which means getting up...

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-Five.

-Five!

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Argyll & Bute spend almost £7 million annually

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on supported living for adults with learning disabilities.

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Carole-Anne and Angela look after around ten clients on Islay -

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a two-hour ferry journey from the mainland.

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The distances involved

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make supporting their clients a real challenge.

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I think being based in Lochgilphead, it means that we

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can access most of Argyll within about an hour and a half,

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but Islay's one of the longer distances that we do.

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I mean, people on Islay are...

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They're not getting the same service as people on the mainland would,

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because...physically we can't provide it.

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So when we get over here we tend to allocate

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a longer session with the individual.

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With the distances involved

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limiting the time Carole-Anne and Angela

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can devote to individual clients,

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they need to find a way of using resources already ON the island

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to create a more sustainable support network locally.

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A life skills course at the island's college might be the answer.

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One of the clients they are trying to help is Rhona,

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who lives in the north of the island with her mum Irene and dad Neil.

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She's very sociable and... You know?

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I mean, if Rhona met you next week,

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the first thing she'd do is cuddle you.

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We're not always going to be here.

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It's very much in our mind to

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try and get something set up for Rhona,

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to be independent and live on her own,

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before we get too old.

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A life skills course on the island

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would help give Rhona some more independence,

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and create a support network amongst those who attend.

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Carole-Anne and Angela

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need to assess what that life skills course should include.

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To do that, they're meeting Rhona and her support worker, Emma,

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as well as another local client, Alison.

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Are you up for doing a talking mat?

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Aye.

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And YOU'RE up for doing a talking mat?

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-Maybe...?

-Yeah.

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OK. So...

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We're talking about activities, and we're talking about things that we like, on this side...

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The talking mat is a tool to aid communication.

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Carole-Anne and Angela can use it to help assess

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what Rhona and Alison

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would like to do on the life skills course.

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Money...

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Going to learn more about money.

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What do you think about that?

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Do you like just having money?

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-No.

-No?

-You do!

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She likes change - lots of change!

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Money management, domestic tasks

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and even outdoor activities

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are all part and parcel of what the life skills course can help teach.

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With an idea of what the course could look like,

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the team head to Argyll College on Islay

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to meet with learning centre manager Mhairi.

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We could look at doing small, short courses,

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where, over the course of the year,

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they could actually do one, two or three units.

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I think what would be a good idea is to get the students

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and see what they want, and what days suit them,

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and then they're leading us

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and we're developing a course that suits them.

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That was really good, wasn't it?

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That's the best outcome we could have hoped for, I think.

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Couldn't have asked for better.

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She's so enthusiastic and something is definitely going to happen.

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-Absolutely, she won't stop.

-Good, good, good.

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With the course going ahead,

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there will now be more support on the island for Rhona.

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Yeah, it's a big day for us, really.

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Yes. We think it will be very positive.

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Lots of practical skills,

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anything at all that will help her to live a more independent life.

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In Dunoon, mum Charlene is concerned about three-and-a-half-year-old Jamie,

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who has recently been diagnosed with autism.

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Autism affects a child's social interactions and language development,

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making communication difficult

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and leaving Jamie frustrated that he cannot be understood.

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What's that?

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No, no!

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All right.

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To try and help with Jamie's communication,

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health visitor Sue has arranged a meeting with speech therapist Elaine.

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I didn't even do my roots, I meant to do my roots.

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-I'm putting you on the spot here.

-That's fine!

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So that's my analysis from what I've seen

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and what Mum was saying, that's mostly her comments

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-and other things that have been going on.

-OK.

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I mean, he is vocal and he has got a single-word vocabulary

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that is developing.

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He has got a couple of two-word phrases

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but I'm not sure how many of them are learned as two words.

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But he is sociable with familiar people as well,

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so he's got a lot of strengths going on communication-wise

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even though the verbal language is not particularly where it should be.

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My aims for him for the next wee while is just to continue

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with the PECS at home and just to get it established in nursery.

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OK.

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Where's your book?

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Where's your cookies in it? You find them.

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Clever boy. What's that?

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Cookie.

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Right, you give Mummy a card.

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Card.

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-Cookie.

-Cookie. Clever boy.

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That's his PECS book.

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That's what we use for communicating with him.

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It's a great wee invention.

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Drink or food or if he wants to go

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outside, the toilet, toothbrush.

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It's good to be able to have that card

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so he learns and for communication.

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KNOCKING

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-Who is it?

-Hello.

-Oh, hello. It's Elaine, are you saying hiya?

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Speech therapist Elaine is here to check on Jamie's progress.

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-How are you?

-I'm all right, you?

-I'm good. We've got a new addition.

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-Oh, Jamie, who's this?

-Is that Bella?

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How is he coming on?

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Yeah. He has been doing really, really well with it.

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He's interested in it, that's what I like to see anyway.

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Yeah, yeah. That's Play-Doh. You had that at nursery today, didn't you?

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Does he take it to nursery with him?

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He's back again on Tuesday so I can certainly say to Alexis,

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right, here's his book, yous can have a go with him

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because obviously everything in nursery is asking for and things.

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See how he gets on with it.

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And I mean, you'll get off of him now, "I want. I want."

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So he'll say that and then whatever it is,

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and he will a lot of the time, if you say something he will try

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and say it, and obviously the cards help with that

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because we've got the picture.

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-That's him now...

-Going to be four come New Year's Eve.

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More likely to be his pre-school year or we don't know?

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I don't know whether he's as well staying at nursery.

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I would rather that than he went in and then had to get kept back.

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We'll see how he gets on.

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We have his Child's Plan meeting on Tuesday and then take it from there

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and see how we get on.

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Thank you for coming again.

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-Thank you!

-Take care.

-See you later. Bye!

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So, as far as I'm concerned,

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I think he's doing well compared to when we'd seen him before.

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Charlene is great. She's great with Jamie.

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She will have to get used to different things with him

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and what it means for him to have autism.

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And things will change for him throughout his life.

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Are you all right?

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One of the biggest decisions for Charlene

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is whether Jamie will be ready to go to school.

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I'm worried because kids are innocent

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and I don't want him necessarily getting, not picked on,

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but people leaving him out and things like that

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because he does have a speech problem,

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in the sense of he's a little bit slower with it and things.

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Jamie's way of getting his frustration out

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is he'll head-butt things, and he'll go to an outside wall

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and full-pelt head-butt it.

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If Jamie is kept out of school for an additional year,

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he may fall further behind.

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To help Charlene make the decision,

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a child planning meeting has been called

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with all the services supporting Jamie.

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The idea with it is it's just really everyone who is involved

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in a child's life gets the opportunity to come together

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round one table and discuss where the child is

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at that particular point in time in their development.

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And really what are the next steps that we're identifying,

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where we need to go next to help this child progress further?

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Aww. You give her a kiss.

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Back in Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute,

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community nurse Gillian has had a call

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about her terminally ill patient, John.

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John is unable to get out of his chair.

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One of the health-care support workers was attending him today.

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She couldn't get into the property.

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The problem obviously being to get in to John to help him,

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so I phoned the housing association,

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who his property belongs to, and they're helping me.

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They've arranged for a joiner to meet me at the property

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to open the door, so that's good.

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My only other option would have been to have the police

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break the door down.

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Let's go.

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Hi, John. It's Gillian here.

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I'm just phoning to let you know what's happening.

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With John unable to answer the door,

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the only way in for the joiner is via an upstairs window.

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So hopefully we'll get in to see John soon and can assess him.

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Probably get the GP involved today,

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he's obviously not as well as he was.

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And take it from there.

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Right. Oh, that's great.

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Oh, John.

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Oh! You've slipped right off your chair.

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How long have you been like that, John?

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We could maybe get him up and sit on that, couldn't we?

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Are you ready?

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One, two, three.

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When you're up, reach out for your frame.

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Is that possible?

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And push yourself back. Is that possible?

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That's it.

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So you think you've been on the floor for about an hour?

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More than that?

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Looks like you've just slipped out of that chair, haven't you?

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-Thank you very much.

-No worries.

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I'm going to get the on-call doctor to come and see John,

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see what she thinks, and she potentially might admit John

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just to control some symptoms, perhaps.

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There you are, that's better. That's a wee something.

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You slept in your chair last night, John?

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So you were on the floor most of the night? Yeah?

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Hey, hi, Dr Calvo-Til. Dr Calvo-Til's here to see you.

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So how are you feeling now?

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All right?

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Can I take you back one step, can you remember,

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what were you doing?

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Oh, right. So have you any idea, when was that?

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How long ago?

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So it's a few hours.

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Do you think you might have passed out?

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You think you might. OK.

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I'm going to ask you to try and push against my hands.

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OK, that's a little weak, isn't it? Can you push up?

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OK.

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You getting any pain anywhere?

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I think, given what's happened to you, and because we don't know

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if you've been on the floor for, who knows, seven or eight hours,

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I think I might bring you into the hospital to perform an assessment.

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And if needs be,

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we could keep you in the hospital for a couple of days, you know?

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Until you've picked up a little bit.

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I'm not sure how you're going to manage.

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With the best care in the world,

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I think being at home might be complicated for you.

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We'll arrange an ambulance to pick you up and I'll meet you up in A&E

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when you get there.

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Great. I'll pack a bag and get his medication.

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He's been on the floor for an unknown amount of time.

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Why did he fall?

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We don't know for sure.

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First of all, I think it will be appropriate to keep him

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under observation for 24 hours,

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do some more tests.

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It could be just general sort of weakness

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or it could be that there is something else.

0:41:080:41:10

Or it could be just general deterioration.

0:41:100:41:14

John is transferred to the Victoria Hospital in Rothesay.

0:41:160:41:20

You're looking a bit better now.

0:41:210:41:24

Yes, you did.

0:41:280:41:29

Do you recall getting the ambulance crew,

0:41:320:41:34

collecting you and bring you up here? Do you remember any of that?

0:41:340:41:38

No, you weren't well that day.

0:41:380:41:41

Did you?

0:41:420:41:45

Thailand.

0:41:480:41:51

No!

0:41:510:41:53

But you know where you are now, don't you?

0:41:560:41:59

John's nephew William has come to visit his uncle.

0:42:030:42:08

Uncle John was at sea for quite a lot of my youth,

0:42:080:42:12

when I was very young.

0:42:120:42:14

I remember you coming home, you always had stuff with you,

0:42:140:42:17

little presents for your sisters and my mother.

0:42:170:42:20

I remember that, that you used to bring things back

0:42:200:42:22

from all over the place.

0:42:220:42:23

You used to tell me where you'd been,

0:42:250:42:27

the Panama Canal and lots of places.

0:42:270:42:30

Australia, Asia.

0:42:300:42:33

Yeah, big inspiration, absolutely.

0:42:340:42:37

One of the concerns will be for us to send him home with the care package

0:42:390:42:42

that he had, which was four times a day, I believe.

0:42:420:42:44

I think the carers would struggle,

0:42:440:42:47

four times a day would not be enough.

0:42:470:42:49

I think we would have to be looking at probably every two hours.

0:42:490:42:52

Marie Curie could've been the support

0:42:520:42:55

but we have limited availability just now.

0:42:550:42:58

I think, again, the nights, he would certainly need

0:42:580:43:02

to have somebody there overnight with him.

0:43:020:43:04

The staffing levels and resources needed to keep John at home

0:43:040:43:09

and safe now outweigh the care that can be given to him in hospital.

0:43:090:43:13

We discussed about where he would like to be.

0:43:130:43:16

He's more than happy to stay here,

0:43:160:43:18

die in hospital here.

0:43:180:43:20

Being with us, he's built a rapport with the staff as well.

0:43:200:43:23

He's comfortable with the staff, he knows the staff,

0:43:230:43:25

he knows the staff by their first names.

0:43:250:43:28

I think also you were saying he wanted people around him.

0:43:280:43:30

He does, yeah. He's expressed that he wants that.

0:43:300:43:32

We don't obviously have hospice facilities on the island,

0:43:320:43:35

so we can provide that.

0:43:350:43:37

Hi, John.

0:44:150:44:16

Hi, John. It's Gillian. How are you today?

0:44:160:44:20

I found it hard but positive as well,

0:44:200:44:23

because John wanted to be in hospital

0:44:230:44:27

for the end stages of his life.

0:44:270:44:30

He wants to die in hospital, so we've upheld his wishes.

0:44:300:44:33

You've got to know the staff here quite well, I understand.

0:44:330:44:38

He is comfortable and he is well looked after

0:44:380:44:41

and he has got the 24-hour care

0:44:410:44:43

so it's been a good end result to his pathway. Good pathway.

0:44:430:44:48

You're tired today. You quite comfortable, though?

0:44:520:44:55

Quite comfortable? That's good.

0:44:550:44:57

I find it sad from the point of view of he is just a young gentleman

0:44:570:45:02

of 64, which I regard as a young age.

0:45:020:45:06

He would normally have a good few decades ahead of him

0:45:060:45:09

to enjoy his retirement.

0:45:090:45:11

You're tired today, aren't you?

0:45:160:45:18

John passed away in hospital, two weeks later.

0:45:220:45:26

I didn't really know John when he was healthy and well,

0:45:290:45:35

and he was a working man, a family man.

0:45:350:45:40

I only got to know John in the last few months of his life.

0:45:400:45:44

He died peacefully and with dignity.

0:45:440:45:48

You can get very emotionally involved with people...

0:45:480:45:53

..and their families.

0:45:530:45:55

But it has got... As I've...as I've got more mature and had more

0:45:580:46:00

experience, it has got a little bit easier.

0:46:000:46:05

Cos you just take different positives from it,

0:46:050:46:08

as opposed to it being a negative.

0:46:080:46:10

On the west shore of the Firth of Clyde, in Dunoon,

0:46:190:46:22

mum Charlene has been working with council health-care services

0:46:220:46:26

to develop a programme of support for Jamie,

0:46:260:46:29

diagnosed six months ago with autism.

0:46:290:46:32

What jacket are you wearing? Are you wearing your green jacket?

0:46:320:46:35

-Ah, yeah.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:46:350:46:37

-You don't have a yellow jacket.

-I wear yellow.

0:46:370:46:40

I don't have a yellow jacket!

0:46:400:46:43

For health visitor Sue, helping Jamie to be understood and understand

0:46:430:46:48

others around him has been vitally important to supporting the family.

0:46:480:46:52

For Jamie, the autism that he does have, it can affect

0:46:540:46:57

the way you understand and communicate with the world...

0:46:570:46:59

-Here.

-I want...

0:46:590:47:01

..and it makes it very difficult to make their way

0:47:010:47:04

and make relationships and get things that they need,

0:47:040:47:07

so one of the ways that we're doing that just now is to help

0:47:070:47:10

Jamie to have more vocabulary,

0:47:100:47:13

so he's going to...concentrating on giving him more words.

0:47:130:47:16

Oh! You need your Minion bag and your lunch bag.

0:47:160:47:19

Don't you? And your PECS cards for nursery.

0:47:190:47:22

Jamie will have more skills to communicate with people, which

0:47:220:47:26

should reduce frustration, which he is displaying at the minute.

0:47:260:47:29

Right, are you climbing in?

0:47:290:47:31

-Yah.

-Yah.

0:47:310:47:33

So his head-butting in response to somewhere where

0:47:330:47:36

he's not feeling understood should go down.

0:47:360:47:39

-Right, are we sorted?

-Yah.

-Yah.

0:47:410:47:44

Today is a crucial day, with a big decision for Charlene ahead.

0:47:440:47:48

She must decide if Jamie is ready to start school next year.

0:47:480:47:53

All the services that have been working with Jamie will come together

0:47:530:47:57

to assess his progress, but the final call will lie with Charlene.

0:47:570:48:03

This is all still a bit new for us.

0:48:030:48:06

Everything that I come to is a new obstacle.

0:48:060:48:09

No two children are the same, never mind no two

0:48:090:48:12

children with autism are the same, so you can't really gauge

0:48:120:48:15

it on anybody else's experience, or even your own,

0:48:150:48:18

if you had another child with anything. It is really

0:48:180:48:20

basically what's Jamie, down to Jamie, and what's best for Jamie,

0:48:200:48:25

and we'll take it a day as we come.

0:48:250:48:27

Go the way that we have been going, and it seems to be working

0:48:270:48:30

-so far, so...we must be doing something right.

-SHE CHUCKLES

0:48:300:48:33

Hello, hello, hello. Hiya. Come on in. Get you a seat.

0:48:330:48:36

Hi, both of you. How are you doing?

0:48:360:48:40

Joining Charlene and Jamie's father Andrew at

0:48:400:48:43

the meeting are council and social care staff from across the team -

0:48:430:48:48

speech therapist Elaine, Jamie's nursery teacher, alongside Sue.

0:48:480:48:53

Anyway, nice to see you both.

0:48:530:48:55

Thank you for sparing the time to come.

0:48:550:48:58

It can feel a bit intimidating for parents.

0:48:580:49:01

We try and make it as friendly,

0:49:010:49:04

if you like, as we can, and as supportive as we can.

0:49:040:49:08

-Have you heard of this Getting It Right process?

-Eh...

-Vaguely.

0:49:080:49:11

-A wee bit.

-A wee bit, OK. So it just means that,

0:49:110:49:14

now we're in the position of trying to coordinate the support

0:49:140:49:17

that Jamie might need, it means we're round the table together

0:49:170:49:20

and we're all going to be hopefully heading in the same direction.

0:49:200:49:23

You had some other comments, because you sent me some comments

0:49:230:49:26

earlier on about how things were within the nursery setting

0:49:260:49:29

-for Jamie.

-We see a really big difference in him since the holidays.

-Oh, he has.

0:49:290:49:33

He's interacting with the kids a lot more.

0:49:330:49:36

-What kind of things is he doing?

-We always try and do a group time,

0:49:360:49:40

singing songs. I'll let them all stand up individually,

0:49:400:49:43

-and Jamie would never, ever do that.

-Mm-hmm.

0:49:430:49:46

But the other week, I said, "Do you want to sing a song?"

0:49:460:49:48

-He was like, "Yeah." And he stood up...

-Great.

0:49:480:49:50

-..and he sang his alphabet.

-That is nice. OK.

0:49:500:49:53

And the other thing I know that you'd been thinking about earlier on

0:49:530:49:56

was about school entry and whether you need to adjust that or not.

0:49:560:49:59

-Yeah. I'm still humming and hawing, but...

-OK.

0:49:590:50:01

..I'm probably swaying more towards keeping him back for another year.

0:50:010:50:06

-Right.

-He might come on miraculously in the next few months,

0:50:060:50:08

-and it might be a completely different kettle of fish...

-Uh-huh.

0:50:080:50:11

-..but at the moment...

-It's an option.

-Yeah.

-It's an option.

0:50:110:50:14

It's whatever's going to suit him best, because I don't want him

0:50:220:50:24

to start and then end up struggling with the rest of his school years.

0:50:240:50:28

So I would rather that he was more prepared than not prepared enough.

0:50:280:50:32

But we shall see.

0:50:320:50:34

It is too soon to decide on school.

0:50:340:50:37

But for mum Charlene and dad Andrew, the support from the team over the

0:50:370:50:42

last few months has made a world of difference.

0:50:420:50:45

It's been a long time coming, getting all of these meetings

0:50:450:50:49

and everything organised,

0:50:490:50:50

from when we discussed that there was possibly something...

0:50:500:50:55

-..that was wrong.

-LAUGHTER

0:50:550:50:57

And now that we're actually getting somewhere,

0:50:570:51:00

it feels a lot better, that everybody's kind of helping.

0:51:000:51:03

When Jamie's interacting with other people, they'll understand him.

0:51:030:51:07

They'll understand what he's feeling, and he'll also

0:51:070:51:10

benefit from being able to explain his emotions a little bit better.

0:51:100:51:14

-Uh-oh.

-Uh-oh. Uh-oh!

-Uh-o-o-o-oh!

0:51:140:51:18

LAUGHTER

0:51:180:51:20

It is just good to have the support of everybody. I think that's

0:51:200:51:23

one of the main things but, is to have everybody

0:51:230:51:25

-round about you helping.

-LAUGHTER

0:51:250:51:28

-All in a day's work.

-More than a day's work.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:51:300:51:34

With an annual spend of nearly £71 million,

0:51:460:51:49

education is the council department with the largest overall budget.

0:51:490:51:55

But even with that investment, delivering education to every

0:51:550:51:59

child across rural communities can be challenging

0:51:590:52:03

and sometimes means kids from remote areas must

0:52:030:52:06

travel for school to larger towns.

0:52:060:52:09

On the small island of Colonsay, the council's primary headteacher,

0:52:130:52:17

Miss Mackenzie, is ending the school year on a high,

0:52:170:52:20

with a sports day and a sendoff for the Primary Seven leavers.

0:52:200:52:25

It's quite emotional, actually,

0:52:250:52:27

cos we've all built up a relationship with these children,

0:52:270:52:30

so much more than you would have in a bigger school.

0:52:300:52:33

There are only six pupils at the primary school on Colonsay,

0:52:330:52:38

and today two of them graduate to high school.

0:52:380:52:41

Jamie...

0:52:410:52:43

..and Geri.

0:52:430:52:45

Go!

0:52:450:52:47

They're with you the whole time, throughout their primary life,

0:52:470:52:51

so it is a bit...

0:52:510:52:53

..it's...it...it can be a bit emotional.

0:52:530:52:55

Kids from Colonsay have to travel to the mainland to attend

0:52:570:53:00

secondary school.

0:53:000:53:03

For the next six years,

0:53:030:53:04

they will only return to the island at weekends.

0:53:040:53:08

You know, 11 and 12 years old, it can be quite hard,

0:53:080:53:12

but the hostel that they are going to is superb, very well managed, and

0:53:120:53:17

they've got great communication with the parents.

0:53:170:53:20

Young people leaving in search of education is a major

0:53:200:53:24

cause of depopulation in Argyll & Bute.

0:53:240:53:28

The area's populace is predicted to decline by up to 8% over

0:53:280:53:32

the next two decades,

0:53:320:53:34

threatening vital services, like Colonsay's primary school.

0:53:340:53:39

As it stands, it is a very small school already.

0:53:390:53:42

-Losing two pupils just makes it, I suppose, a micro-school.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:53:420:53:46

So we just... we hope to get some more.

0:53:460:53:49

There's a lady on the island who is expecting as well, so...

0:53:490:53:53

-..fingers crossed she'll want to stay.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:53:530:53:56

That's quite good. Good news for everybody.

0:53:560:53:59

Geri has only lived on Colonsay for a short time,

0:54:010:54:05

but Jamie has been here his whole life,

0:54:050:54:08

and at the moment,

0:54:080:54:10

Jamie's adamant that he will come back to Colonsay after high school.

0:54:100:54:16

He loves to run wild around the island,

0:54:160:54:18

and he loves to become involved in what's going on,

0:54:180:54:22

with the ferries and what's going on with the farming.

0:54:220:54:25

In actual fact, the two boys that are going off are very excited,

0:54:250:54:30

and they're very ready for it, I think.

0:54:300:54:34

Uh-uh, Eve, stand back, please.

0:54:340:54:35

But I suppose it's part of that process, it's

0:54:350:54:38

part of growing up, it's part of... you know, becoming independent,

0:54:380:54:41

and they just have to do it a bit earlier than...

0:54:410:54:44

..than a lot of other children have to do.

0:54:440:54:48

Jamie's sister Emma,

0:54:480:54:50

mum Pauline and dad George are all here to see him graduate.

0:54:500:54:54

Faced challenge after challenge after challenge, and the improvement

0:54:540:54:57

and the progress that has been made this year is phenomenal,

0:54:570:55:00

-and that is Jamie. Up you come. Well done.

-APPLAUSE

0:55:000:55:03

Well done, you. Excellent.

0:55:040:55:06

CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:55:070:55:10

-He did very well, though, didn't he?

-Yes, he did.

0:55:120:55:15

-George, your eyes were sweating. I could see it.

-LAUGHTER

0:55:150:55:18

-That's hay fever.

-LAUGHTER

0:55:180:55:21

Jamie and his friend Geri have the summer holidays to

0:55:230:55:27

spend on Colonsay with family.

0:55:270:55:29

But soon enough it's time to pack for the move to the mainland

0:55:440:55:49

and the big school.

0:55:490:55:51

What pictures is that you're taking, Jamie?

0:55:540:55:57

A bit from my family.

0:55:570:56:00

That's you. Ready to go?

0:56:000:56:02

-Is that you? Definitely?

-Mm-hmm.

0:56:020:56:05

-That's him. He's offski.

-LAUGHTER

0:56:070:56:10

I'll be lonely. I'll be lonely.

0:56:100:56:13

The house will be quiet.

0:56:130:56:15

-There'll be less mess.

-LAUGHTER

0:56:150:56:18

But will Jamie return to live in Colonsay after high school?

0:56:220:56:27

At the moment, Jamie's adamant that he's doing as many years as

0:56:270:56:31

he has to and then he's coming home to work on one of the farms.

0:56:310:56:35

But in saying that, he's 12.

0:56:350:56:37

Things might change.

0:56:370:56:40

It's time for Jamie

0:56:400:56:42

and his classmate Geri to take the ferry to the mainland.

0:56:420:56:45

and the Colonsay community have turned out to wave them off,

0:56:450:56:49

including their primary headteacher, Miss Mackenzie.

0:56:490:56:53

It just is quite a big step for them,

0:56:530:56:55

and I think...I think it's nice for them to see

0:56:550:56:57

their old teachers and just sort of wave them off and give them

0:56:570:57:00

a wee...a wee nod of encouragement.

0:57:000:57:02

They've a whole different world to go to now.

0:57:020:57:06

Personally, I wouldn't want Emma or Jamie coming back to the island

0:57:060:57:09

at 18, because then I would think, "Well, that's them kind of stuck."

0:57:090:57:13

I would want them to go out, see a bit more,

0:57:130:57:16

make some money and come back and build their own house.

0:57:160:57:20

-Maybe I'll be lucky and they'll maybe do that.

-SHE LAUGHS

0:57:200:57:23

You have to wave to the chickens.

0:57:230:57:25

-Wave to the chickens.

-The chickens!

-LAUGHTER

0:57:250:57:28

-But I don't sing.

-You don't sing?

0:57:360:57:39

-I just...

-HE HUMS A MELODY

0:57:390:57:41

LAUGHTER

0:57:410:57:42

I wasn't expecting that. That's unauthorised.

0:57:420:57:45

You're not going in the water.

0:57:450:57:47

-You're not going in the water.

-Look...

-LAUGHTER

0:57:470:57:50

-Do you know this chap?

-Whay-oh!

-I think he's best taken away.

0:57:500:57:53

-I hope you're not making me look wobbly from behind.

-LAUGHTER

0:57:550:57:59

I don't know if you want to come in here, but it's something else.

0:57:590:58:01

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