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Con men, fraudsters, scam artists, call them what you want, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
the fact is they're after our money | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
and last year they took an estimated £3.5 billion off the British public. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:13 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
how looking for work could put you at the mercy of the con men... | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
When you look back and think about it, it's obvious that it's a scam. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
I was just too pleased to have a job to realise it at the time. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
..and the million pound scam | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
that targeted people selling their car... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
I was ringing this phone number and it just rang and rang and rang | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
and I got no joy, so I started thinking, "Is this right?" | 0:00:51 | 0:00:56 | |
I'm here to tell you what the con men don't want you to know - | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
how to stay ahead of the game and not get scammed. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
Most of us need a job. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
It's no surprise, therefore, that there's a range of scams | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
which are based around employment. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
They target people who want to work. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
In other words, people who are trying to do the decent thing | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
and provide for their families. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
The sort of people who really can't afford to lose money to a scam. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
So with hundreds of thousands out looking for work, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
employment scams are a serious concern | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
to organisations like the National Fraud Authority. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
The fraudster is playing on the fact | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
that you've been out of work for a time, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
you're desperate to get a job, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
you want to work, you need to pay the bills. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
There are a variety of employment scams | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and some of the jobs on offer sound quite attractive, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
as young mum Kara has found out to her cost. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
She lives just outside London with her three-year-old son Toby. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Sadly, looking for work has brought Kara into contact | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
with some devious con men. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
-Hello, Kara. I'm Matt. How are you doing? -Hello. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
Kara, what's your situation right now? | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
I'm a single parent. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
I have got a little three-year-old boy. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
I'm on benefits, although I would really like to work. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
Since Toby was born, Kara's had to survive on income support. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:31 | |
As well as finding it hard to make ends meet, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
she misses the independence of having her own job. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Kara decided to start looking for work in November 2010 | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
and she had no idea that she would end up on the radar of the scammer. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
The first stage obviously is recruitment. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
The fraudster has to recruit you. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:51 | |
They can advertise in legitimate publications | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
or they can advertise in job centres. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Where do you go looking for jobs at the moment? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
I always look on Directgov, which is the link to the Jobcentre website. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
I always really only stuck to that and the local paper. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
The Jobcentre section of the Directgov website | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
features thousands of adverts for work, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
and in March 2011, a job appeared there which caught Kara's eye. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
It was for an online auction assistant working on eBay. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
And I used to be obsessed with eBay, I would buy and sell on it, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
so I thought, "This is really good." | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
The company offering the job said they were an electrical retailer | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
and wanted someone to sell items for them on the internet | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
using the auction website eBay. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
It was perfect for single mum Kara | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
because it was work she could do from home. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
You saw the advert, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
-you got in your application. -Yeah. -What next? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
An out-of-office reply came back | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
saying they'd received so many applications. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
It sounded as if the job was oversubscribed | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
and Kara thought she'd missed the boat, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
but there was one glimmer of hope. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
They sent a form asking more about the feedback you had on eBay. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
What Kara didn't know was that this was all part of a clever process | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
to convince her she was applying for a normal job. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
It was pretty much the same as every other application | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
apart from the questions regarding eBay - | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
"What's your feedback? How have you used eBay before? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
"What type of things have you sold on eBay?" | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Kara felt she was well qualified for the position, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
but having applied for numerous jobs | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
and heard nothing back, she didn't want to get her hopes up. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
But two days later, the company called to offer her the job. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
-How did that feel? -I was over the moon. I was absolutely over the moon. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
What she didn't know | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
was that she was now in the clutches of the con man. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
You've just got a job. You want to work. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
You've got to get that money in | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
and you're not going to question what they ask you to do. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
What was it you were doing? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
Just listing their products on eBay and answering questions buyers have, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
taking the money from the buyers and then sending it to the company. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:19 | |
So you are a middle person? | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
-Yeah. -You never see the products? -No. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
Did you get any contract or did you get anything that said, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
"These are your terms and conditions of employment." | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I received one e-mail | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
saying what the money would be, 10% commission, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
and what the hourly rate would be, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
but it was on a week's trial. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
She said, "We'll receive all the information after that week." | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
The trial period gave the con men a window | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
in which to carry out their scam | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
and in another clever move, they told Kara that during this trial, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
she would need to use her own personal eBay account. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Although warning signs were starting to appear, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
Kara had no reason to question what she was being told. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
I was just too pleased to have a job | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
and the only person that did say something was my stepdad. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
-What did he say to you? -He said, "This sounds too good. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
"This is definitely a scam." | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
I said, "No, it's not because it's advertised on Directgov, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
"it can't be a scam." | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
-And you've ignored him? -Yeah. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
What happened next? You've got to start doing your job. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Yeah. I said to her on the Friday I can start today | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
and she said, "I'll send you over some listings | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
"put them on eBay, and then e-mail me back with the listing numbers." | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Kara was asked to sell a variety of items | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
including hands-free mobile phone kits for about 100 quid. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
She got back to me on the Saturday and said, "That's all great," | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
and she asked me every day to give her feedback | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
on how many people were watching the product, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
has anyone bid on it and has anyone won it? | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Over the next few days, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
Kara was suddenly bombarded with calls from the company. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Every time my phone rung, it was her saying, "How they doing?" | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
At one point I said, "I thought I only had to give you a daily update." | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
She just said, "I'm just checking everything's all right. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
And then on the Tuesday, I think it was, um, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
five of the products had sold. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
She said, "If you can now transfer the money into our bank account." | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
Kara collected a total of £400 from her customers | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
and transferred this money straightaway to the company. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
All she had to do now was to wait for them to confirm | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
they posted the hands-free kits to her buyers. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
You think the goods have been dispatched. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
The dispatchers will give you an invoice number. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
She promised me she would give me the tracking numbers | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
to give to the buyers, and suddenly, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
when I gave them the money, then no contact at all. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Kara tried calling, but the company didn't answer their phone | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
and the penny was slowly starting to drop. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
With a lot of these scams, there's a tipping point for people | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
when they suddenly realise | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
and they understand what's going on, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
-or most of what is going on. -Yeah. -When was that moment for you? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
It was probably when she sent me that e-mail and I said, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
"No, I'm not having anything until I get the tracking numbers." | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
When I got no response to that, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
I thought, "God, you're so stupid, this is a scam." | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
OK, what happened after that, then? You said no to her. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
I was ringing her every ten minutes. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
I know that sounds excessive, but I had the buyers on my back saying, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
"I'm going to go to the police about you. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
"I want my money back." I was getting threats from them. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
And I just thought, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
"There's nothing I can do apart from just constantly ring." | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
The company refused to answer Kara's calls or e-mails | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
and she now realised she had to face the music from the innocent buyers | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
she'd unwittingly drawn into the scam. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
There are two victims here - | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
there's you that hasn't got the job that you thought you had | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
and also the innocent buyer at the end of the line | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
who hasn't got their goods. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
I was honest with them, I said, "Look, I've been part of a scam | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
"and unfortunately, you've been caught up in it. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
"Please raise a case against me on eBay so you can get your money back." | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
One of the guys was fine. He said, "Thank you for letting me know. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
"I'm sorry this happened to you." | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Um, the three other guys were extremely mad, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
saying they want their money now. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
And the money... I didn't have the money. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
I couldn't return the money, even if I wa... Well, I did want to, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
but I couldn't return the money | 0:09:42 | 0:09:44 | |
so eBay returned the money to the four people | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
and eBay are now chasing me for the money, which I don't have. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
Because Kara listed the items using her account, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
she was liable and eBay were entitled to ask her | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
for the £400 that had been lost. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
That is a lot of money to me. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
That's a massive amount of money. I can't pay that back. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
I should have listened to my stepdad, really. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
I just think, "God, I'm just so stupid | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
"for actually not piecing it all together and realising." | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
But you're not stupid, you know, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
that's really important to understand | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
and you're not gullible and you're not greedy | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
or any of those things that people say about scams. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
This is a scam that works very, very cleverly. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
They've had thousands of applicants for that job, and do you know what? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
They've all got the job. OK? | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
They've all got the job. Loads of buyers all send their money, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
the money gets passed on. Suddenly, the company's disappeared. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:54 | |
It's not down to your gullibility, stupidity, greed, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
any of those things. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
The scammers who targeted Kara knew exactly what they were doing | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
and perhaps their smartest move was to advertise the job | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
on the official Jobcentre website. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
In Kara's eyes, this gave the company instant credibility | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
and is something the Department For Work And Pensions take seriously. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
This is what they had to say... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
So what do you need to know | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
to make sure the job you're applying for is safe and legitimate? | 0:11:44 | 0:11:49 | |
Look at the job you're actually doing and just think, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
"Is this really what I expected I would be doing?" | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
And if you are being asked to move money through your account | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
or sell goods you've never seen, alarm bells should start ringing. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
If they are asking to you complete an application form, | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
be very careful about the details that you provide. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
When you apply for a job, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
you should never give out your National Insurance number | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
or date of birth or bank account details. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
They could be used by a fraudster to steal your identity | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
as well as your money. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
Find out as much as you can about the company offering the job, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
how long have they been trading, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
are they registered with Companies House, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
are there any horror stories about them on the internet? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Sadly, this is too late for Kara | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and in the future, she will be much more cautious about finding a job. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
Trying to sell your car can be a right pain in the Bugatti. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
The last time I tried - two weeks, not a sniff. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:56 | |
If you're more successful, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
you have a string of jokers coming down your drive, kicking your tyres, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
drinking your tea, sucking air back through their teeth at the price. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Wouldn't it be wonderful | 0:13:04 | 0:13:05 | |
if there was a service which just for £100 | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
lined you up with serious buyers? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
Guess what, there is. It's called car matching, and for a fee, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
companies promise to find buyers for you, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
making selling your car as easy as pie. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
and over the last few years, a succession of car matching scams | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
have hit innocent motorists where it hurts most. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
It's not unreasonable to estimate that the loss to the public | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
from those activities was probably about £10 million. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
Around 6 million used cars are sold every year in the UK | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
and scam artists have wasted no time trying to exploit this demand. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Over the last five years, car-matching scams | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
have been a serious concern for those in the motoring industry. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Unfortunately, we've heard many tales from our readers | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
who have been caught up in these car-matching scams. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Like all the best scams, it is deceptively simple | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
and lots of people, unfortunately, have been taken in by it. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
The scam works just like this - you want to sell your car, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
so you put an advert in the newspaper or magazine | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and then you receive a phone call from a company that claims | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
to have lots of buyers lined up for your car, and of course, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
that's appealing and they say, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
"We've got buyers for your car. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
"If you give us a sum of money," it is usually around £100, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
"we'll put you in touch with them and sell your car, effectively." | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
It is a familiar sounding story for Paula | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
who lives near Bath with her husband, Richard. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
In 2008, a sudden change in circumstances | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
left them needing to sell their car. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
My husband had some bad news at beginning of 2008 | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
so obviously, he couldn't drive anymore, so we put it up for sale. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Paula advertised their carefully driven five-door hatchback | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
for a very reasonable £2,500. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
The advert was placed in a local magazine, but the phone didn't ring. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:08 | |
Then one day, a man phoned up who said he could sell the car for her. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
He said that he had a buyer for the car. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
He could guarantee us a minimum of £2,650, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:26 | |
which was great because we'd only advertised it for £2,500. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
So we thought, "That's good." | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
The man was calling from a car-matching company | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
called Vehicle Seller UK Ltd | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and he had a slick sales pitch. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
He said they had a database of buyers | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
who were looking for cars such as this | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
and it was going to cost me £89.99. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Paula was told the car would also be advertised | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
on Vehicle Seller's website | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
and £90 was starting to sound like very good value. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
So you're then to pay £90, but the process will be cut short | 0:15:58 | 0:16:04 | |
and you will have achieved your sale. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Sandy's story is almost identical. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
She'd been trying to sell a sporty convertible | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
which she'd bought as a treat to herself. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
I enjoyed it for just over a year. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Then I thought, "OK." I paid for it and I thought, "Time to sell it." | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
That's the reason. It just wasn't big enough for the family, really. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Sandy advertised her smart low-mileage convertible | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
for the bargain price of £7,000. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
After three weeks, no-one had rung about the car, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
but then Vehicle Seller UK got in touch. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
The guy that rang me up, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
he said there was a lot of people waiting for cars like mine. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
There was actually people queuing for cars like mine | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
and it would be gone, like, within a week and I would have no problems. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:53 | |
Sandy was sceptical at first, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
so the salesman suggested she go away and look at their website. | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
I spoke to my husband and said, "What do you think?" | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
We looked at the website, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:04 | |
there was cars actually on there like mine, so a proper website. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
So we thought, "OK, it seems legit, it seems all OK, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
"maybe if he does ring me back, we'll go for it." | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
The salesman phoned back and Sandy found herself parting with £200. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:21 | |
The longer you leave it, the less money you're going to get for it. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:25 | |
It was a good deal, really. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
But as soon as Sandy and Paula handed over their cash, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
the salesman at Vehicle Seller UK went mysteriously quiet. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
I mean, the thing that worried me, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
that he had phoned me twice or three times in one day | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
and then the next day when I was having qualms, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
I couldn't get hold of him. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
I didn't hear nothing, so I wanted to know what went on, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
so I was ringing this phone number | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
and it just rang and rang. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Desperate to find out what was going on, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
Sandy got in touch with someone else whose car was being advertised | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
on Vehicle Seller's website. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
I rang him and I said to him about selling his car | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
and he told me he had been with this company a year | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
and he has not had one phone call. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
So in my head, I was thinking, "This ain't right. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
"This has got to be a scam." | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
And Sandy was right. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
She and Paula had become the latest people | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
to be duped by Vehicle Seller UK, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
a company who had conned thousands of others in a similar fashion, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
but not for much longer. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Sandy, Paula and scores of unhappy customers | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
complained to Trading Standards. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Trading Standards called in the Insolvency Service, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
a government agency which has the power to shut companies down | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
if they're up to no good. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Paul Titherington is an official receiver for the Insolvency Service | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
and was one of the men charged with investigating Vehicle Seller UK. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
It wasn't capable of providing the service | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
that it purported to customers it would provide, and therefore, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
customers were not receiving a service that they paid for. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
The challenge for the Insolvency Service was to prove | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
that Vehicle Seller UK Ltd had never intended | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
to provide a real car-matching service | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
and that the company was set up to scam people like Paula and Sandy. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
To do this, they needed to know | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
what Vehicle Seller UK had been promising, | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
whether they had any car buyers on their books | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
and whether they'd helped anyone sell their car. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Step one was to look at all the complaints | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
and see if there were any common threads. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
When initially looking at how Vehicle Seller had run its business, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:39 | |
we were looking at what it was telling customers | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
about the service it was to provide. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
That it had numbers of customers | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
waiting to buy that particular vehicle. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
If they paid now, it's likely they would be round that night, the customer, to buy the vehicle. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
It was also saying that the likelihood was | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
that the seller would get more from the customer | 0:19:59 | 0:20:03 | |
than they would do by selling it elsewhere, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
It was starting to become clear that Vehicle Seller UK Ltd | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
had a very good reason for only charging a relatively small amount. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
The customer's unlikely to do too much about it, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
they'll just chalk it up to, "Unfortunately, I've lost £100," | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
The Insolvency Service now knew the tactics | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Vehicle Seller UK Ltd were using to get people to part with their cash. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
The next stage was to start gathering hard evidence | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
so Chris Mayhew, the company's investigation supervisor, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
set his team to work. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
We appointed an investigator to exercise statutory powers | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
and go out to the trading address and carry out an investigation. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:46 | |
The investigator was armed with a warrant | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
allowing him to search Vehicle Seller's offices | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
and seize any relevant documents, but when he got there, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
he found the company had virtually no records, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
either on computer or paper. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
If a company is acting legitimately, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
you would expect accounting records, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
co-operative staff, co-operative officers behind the company. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
With limited company records, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
the investigator had to painstakingly piece together evidence | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
from what little paperwork there was | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
but as he did, the full scale of the scam began to emerge. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Vehicle Seller had boasted they had 3,000 clients on their books, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
but it seemed most of them | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
were people like Sandy and Paula who had been scammed. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Our investigator was able to ascertain | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
that there were over 2,700 complaints. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
It's probably fair to say in this instance | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
that of all the alleged 3,000 people on their books, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
not one person actually sold a car through this company. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
The Insolvency Service now had the evidence they needed | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
to take Vehicle Seller UK to court. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
The team prepared their case | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
and put together a winding-up petition, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
a recommendation that Vehicle Seller UK Limited be forced to close down. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
That letter came before the High Court | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
who agreed with the findings and ordered the company into liquidation | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
on grounds of public interest. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:11 | |
So in April 2009, six months after their investigation had begun, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
the Insolvency Service closed down Vehicle Seller UK for good. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
But the Insolvency Service weren't done yet. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
They wanted to make sure the men behind the company | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
didn't just go off and start all over again. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
So in came Paul Titherington. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
On the winding up of a company, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
the job falls to me to investigate its affairs, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
to identify its cause of failure | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
and to decide whether there is misconduct | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
on behalf of the directors that warrants action | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
under the directors disqualification provisions. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Paul needed to interview the two directors of Vehicle Seller UK Ltd | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
to see if they could explain | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
why they hadn't provided the service they promised | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
and why there was such huge blanks in the company's records. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
A significant amount of money had been withdrawn in cash | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
and there was no explanation where that had been, where that had gone. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
There was also a significant amount of payment by way of cheques. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
Again, no evidence to where that money had gone | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
and whether it was a legitimate expenditure | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
on behalf of the company. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
The directors were called in for interview | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
but nothing they said could legitimately explain the goings-on | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
at Vehicle Seller UK Ltd. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
It seemed certain that the company had been set up purely | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
to con people out of their cash. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
The courts decided to disqualify both men | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
from being a company director for 11 years. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
So, thanks to the hard work of Paul, Chris | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
and the Insolvency Service team, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Vehicle Seller UK Ltd and its directors | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
could no longer pose a threat to innocent people | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
like Paula and Sandy. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
And there' been more good news for anyone selling a car, | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Along with Vehicle Seller UK Ltd, the Insolvency Service | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
have investigated another ten car-matching firms | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
and taken action against the con men behind them. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
There have been eight directors banned for ten years or more | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
and another eight have been banned from five to ten years. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
This seems to have put the brakes on car-matching scams for now. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
But if you're selling a car, you should still be on your guard. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Here's what you need to know to avoid the con men... | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
You shouldn't be put off trying to sell your used car yourself | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
because there's lots of good websites out there. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
There's lots of good magazines. Lots are household names. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Sell your car there. Describe your car well. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
Get your car nice and clean and tidy. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
Offer it a fair price and you'll sell it through legitimate means. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
For further advice on how to protect yourself against scams, go to... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:58 | |
Now, before we go, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
there's just time to tell you about some of the latest scams out there. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
I've come to meet an expert at the National Fraud Authority | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
to get the low-down on what you should be looking out for. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Today, we're looking at scams that target our health. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
I'll be honest with you, Mike. I've put a few pounds on recently. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
If you're a scam artist, what are you going to do for me? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Well, I've got latest miracle slimming pill, Matt. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
In fact, you can carry on eating as much as like, you can have cakes, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
chocolate, anything, take these pills four times a day | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
-and I'll guarantee you'll lose weight. -Really? | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Absolutely. Just send me £19.95 a month for the next six months, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
you'll get your pills. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
-What am I actually getting? -Who knows what you're getting. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
What we know, it's something that won't work. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
Yes, this news just in - | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
there are no miracle cures when it comes to losing weight | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
and if you order pills from the internet, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
who knows what you'll get through your door. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
But weight-loss pills aren't the only health scam out there. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
In fact, there are more harmful types of scams | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
where the scammers will actually promise | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
that they've cures for incurable diseases | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
or can stop your arthritis, for example, or cancer | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
and this robs people of their hope | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
as well as robbing them of their money. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
It's just someone in a grubby office sending out these types of pills | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
which won't do you any good at all. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
No matter how desperate you are for a cure, | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
don't take anything without seeking medical advice first. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Speak to your GP before trusting claims made in an e-mail or website. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
So there you go - it doesn't matter how clever the scam is, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
if you recognise the warning signs, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
you can stay one step ahead of the con men. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
Stay safe. See you next time. | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
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