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EXPLOSION

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GUNFIRE

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HORNS HONK

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Nobody wants to leave their country

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and risk dying in the sea.

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But when it becomes impossible

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to live in your own country...

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..people will do desperate things.

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In 2015, over one million people

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smuggled themselves into Europe.

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I wanted to contact my family,

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but I couldn't because my place was under siege.

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This is the story of the migrant crisis,

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told by the people who risked everything

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for the dream of a better life in Europe.

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Me and my wife, we agreed

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that I will travel to the UK

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and my family will later on join me.

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You see, if you look at here...

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A lot of numbers - smugglers, smugglers, smugglers. Wow.

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They've got groups on Facebook, you know?

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Closed groups, so they keep posting, advertising,

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prices, dates, routes...

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Discounts. Promotion, you know?

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Yeah.

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-Sorry. Do you know where the Omonia Square is?

-That way.

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That way? Five minutes?

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Sorry. Omonia Square?

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Right here? Thank you so much.

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-Good evening, sir. Do you know where is the Omonia Square?

-Five minutes.

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Thank you so much.

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OK. I mean, everybody says five minutes.

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I don't know what's the meaning of five minutes in Greece...

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HORNS HONK

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Bye.

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He will be here in...

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ten minutes.

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And, to be honest, if you're asking about my feeling,

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I'm now so anxious...

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Not about travelling, but about you filming me because...

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..a lot of mothers are looking at me now

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because, you know, I know there's a lot of, a LOT of, a lot of these...

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you know,

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traffickers, they're not happy.

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Seeing you, in particular, ruining their job.

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Well, shit. It's better you turn it off because they will be...

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No, please turn it off.

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Because if they see the camera or they see me... What are you doing?

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OK.

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'He came...

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'..with a suitcase

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'full of passports.'

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And I asked him how much it would cost me to the UK.

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He told me it would cost about seven, 8,000. I said...

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"This is too expensive".

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Then I said, "OK, how about France? Can you get me to France?"

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He said, "Of course".

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He said, "I'll give you half price".

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Because you can fly easily to Marseille.

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And from there...

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my next step will be...Paris,

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the city of love.

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This is the picture of my little daughter and my wife.

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You see the building out there?

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Last week,

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there was a bomb,

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two little children lost their lives there, in my town.

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It's about 200 metres from my house.

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(Shit.)

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I don't want to talk about my family, to be honest.

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I want to be so positive

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because, whenever I think about my family, things get fucked up.

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I don't want to talk about them. No, they are fine there.

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I don't want to think about it, to be honest,

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and I don't like to be reminded of them.

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(Shit.)

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-Do you want to record video?

-What?

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-You are recording video?

-Yes.

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Oh...

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-If you have any questions, we can talk with you.

-OK.

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-Because I can talk English.

-Where are you from?

-I am from Afghanistan.

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And we have passed a very difficult way

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and finally we arrived in Greece,

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so we're thankful for the people of Greece, you are very kind people.

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Today, I have seen the Greek people,

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they have bought from their pocket,

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from their money, from a store, breakfast, lunch, dinner...

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-Where do you want to go?

-I want to go Finland.

-Finland?

-Finland.

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When I hear it from the news that the borders are open and many people

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are going to abroad, then I decided it is time to go, now or never.

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Because the people who are living in Afghanistan, all of them

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don't like Afghanistan.

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But why they stay, because they don't know the way how to come,

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or, if they know the way, they don't have the money to come.

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I'm sure, if they have enough money,

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nobody will remain in Afghanistan

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and Afghanistan would be empty.

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Here are the buses, which the refugees travel to Macedonia,

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and I'm going to find my friends there.

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I'm 24 years old and I've faced many problems,

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I have seen many problems in my life, and it's enough.

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I want to have the remains, the rest of my life, with peace,

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with safe life, with good... good situation.

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I remember... When I was a child, the regime of Taliban...

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..and everything was bad.

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'Our war on terror

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'begins with Al-Qaeda.'

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'US Special Operations Forces were on the ground in Afghanistan...'

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'..take back the town from the Taliban...'

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'Most US troops left at the end of 2013.'

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'..city strongholds, 5,000 US troops dead,

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'tens of thousands of Afghans dead,

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'hundreds of thousands wounded.'

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'Taliban regime is coming to an end.'

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The Taliban was very cruel to all human beings...

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..and especially for women.

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It was not right for a woman in the period of Taliban, no right.

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For example, girls and women were not allowed to go for a job,

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for work, for studying.

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Everything was forbidden for them.

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And when they go outside, then it was a rule they should

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cover all the parts of your body, all the parts.

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If their hands or feet was uncovered,

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if a Talib see them like that,

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Talib beat them.

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When I was Afghanistan, I saw that Taliban are trying to govern again

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and, every day, fight is going on.

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That is why I decided to leave my home country and come to abroad.

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In Afghanistan,

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it's very important for every family to have

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about five males...

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Five men, yes?

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But here, I'm just living with four girls -

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my sisters.

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So, I feel very responsible for them.

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MAN TEACHES GERMAN ON PHONE

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I learn German language. It is interesting, the language.

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-Is it worth risking your life to get there?

-Yeah.

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'Ja... Ja...'

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GERMAN LESSON FADES OUT

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BABY CRIES

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PEOPLE CHATTER

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You can't go there, everybody. No! No, sorry. No.

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PEOPLE SHOUT CHILDREN CRY

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No.

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'Hundreds of men, women

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'and children waiting in the rain near the border.'

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'..authorities and aid agencies seemed completely unprepared...'

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'Croatian authorities are slowing the flow of migrants

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'being allowed in...

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-'Refugees...'

-'There are more coming hour after hour.

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'Refugees and migrants arriving in Croatia...'

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'Still pouring into the European Union...'

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'The problem is a lack of coordination.'

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'..blocked their entry to the European Union.'

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'Whatever limits and quotas EU leaders may have in mind,

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'this influx is continuing.'

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'There was no shelter, no food,

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'no warmth for this group, which included MANY children.'

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We think all the body here, they will die.

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They kill us here.

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They kill us, you must understand.

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THEY LAUGH WITH THE CHILDREN

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THEY LAUGH AND CLAP

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THEY CHANT

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HE SPEAKS ENGLISH:

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I've never travelled to Europe before.

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I don't know what's the atmosphere towards refugees.

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It didn't feel like we were welcomed by all those countries

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we were going through.

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We were certainly not welcome.

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It felt like every country was trying to get rid of us.

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"Just go north and then you'll figure it out from there."

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The back door of the van broke

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because around 26 people were stacked in the van.

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Around 27, 26 people...

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..and an hour and a half is going to take us into Austria.

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The driver was drunk.

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And they do it on purpose because, if we get caught,

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he will get a lesser sentence because he's drunk.

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He'll be like,

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"Well, they put them in my van - I didn't know about them".

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Right now, our van is entering the Austrian borders.

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It's nine o'clock. The van just dropped us. We are in Vienna.

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I wanted to go to the UK, and it took me around 14 days

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and I'm in Austria.

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So, yeah, maximum two more weeks and...

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..I'm going to be in the UK.

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..but I wasn't!

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When planning my trip to the UK, I've always wanted to

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be as quick as possible.

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Time is my worst enemy.

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In Syria,

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sometimes a minute can change

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the entire life of you or your family.

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It's an amazing view.

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'And the system for family reunion in the UK...

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'..is super quick.

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'It's so fast.

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'Once I am given the refugee status,'

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I can get my family easily out of Syria,

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which might take me two and a half years in Germany or France.

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And, from France, there's only one way for you to cross.

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'Thousands of migrants are trying to board trucks bound for Britain...

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'And walk off across the tracks towards...

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'Angry migrants venting their frustration in Calais -

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'they complain that they're being treated like animals.'

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'You've got a swarm of people wanting to come to Britain

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'because Britain has got jobs, it's got a growing economy,

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'it's an incredible place to live...'

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'French gendarmes eventually...'

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'More dogs, more fencing, more policing.'

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I was watching the news on Calais because, at that time,

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a lot of media was focusing on Calais.

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'The new security measures at the tunnel and at the port

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'have made it much more difficult for the people-smuggling gangs.'

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I said, "If i go to the Jungle and I meet these people,

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"I might end up like them, spending a lot of time living in the Jungle."

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Which was...crazy impossible for me.

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I said, "I will never, ever do it."

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I don't know. I used to see on the news that,

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when they show Calais, this kind of...

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A jungle, a forest and a lot of migrants and people and police.

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I don't know. It's not the case with me for the time being.

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I don't know what's going to be waiting for me there.

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It looks like...a quite peaceful city.

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It's a bit chilly, but that's OK.

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Oh, my God. Look, look, look!

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It's the sea.

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I don't know. I might be taking one of these ferries

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and be heading to the UK.

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See there? It's over there.

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The horizon.

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The mirage, it's England.

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It's so close.

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I can't wait, man. I can't wait to get there.

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Now I need to go walk through the city to see

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if somebody is willing to support, to help me.

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And by someone I mean some human traffickers,

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some smugglers, because this is the only way to get out of here.

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Where are the smugglers? I don't know where you can find them.

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You see, I prefer that you stay here and I go there.

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They might be afraid, they might be worried.

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They told me, "Welcome.

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"Tomorrow, you will be having your lunch in London."

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I said, "Wow! This is great. Please, yeah.

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"Let's do it as soon as possible."

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It was very, very stupid of me to believe these smugglers...

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but I didn't have a choice but to believe them.

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I feel relaxed because I'm near to Germany.

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Just one country remains, Austria, and then to Germany.

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From Germany to Sweden and from Sweden to my destination, Finland.

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It is so difficult for the children.

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We are young and we cannot suffer this cold weather.

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For children, it is too much difficult.

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BABY CRIES

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Stay with your family and everybody get a bus one by one.

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THEY SCREAM

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THEY SPEAK OWN LANGUAGE

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THEY VOCALISE

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SIRENS BLARE

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-Nice city.

-Nice city. Nice place.

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THEY LAUGH

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It is 8:00 and we will leave here about 8:30,

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to the terminal of buses,

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and after that we will start moving towards Istanbul, Inshallah.

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-You seem quite anxious.

-I am very nervous.

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I'm heading to the cafe now, where the smugglers,

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the group of smugglers, are sitting.

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Feel lucky? Of course. If I'm unlucky, I cross another day.

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What matters is that I'll cross.

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Ciao! Wish me luck, huh?

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An Egyptian smuggler...

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he took us to a parking place...

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..me and another seven people.

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Yes, this is Calais port and I'm walking next to it.

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Preparing to get in one of these ferries or trucks.

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See, there's a group of people walking in front of me -

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they're all migrants trying to get in.

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There was a tanker full of flour.

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He said, "This flour tanker is going to the UK.

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"You will get there within six hours."

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And the smuggler shut that circle where we slip, you know,

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inside the tanker.

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It was total darkness.

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Imagine you are buried alive, you know? In a tanker with no air...

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..nothing at all...

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..because you trusted a criminal.

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I started suffocating and I started losing consciousness.

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We started knocking and knocking and knocking.

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Ten minutes, the tanker stopped.

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The driver opened the door from up there...

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..and he let us out.

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We were reborn again.

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And the guy told us, "Look, this car is going to Italy.

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"I'm going to Rome.

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"If you want to go to Rome, come sit next to me. You're welcome."

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It was a shock.

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I was almost killed...

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..for a stupid idea called the UK.

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I gave it up.

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'I changed my plans. I said, "I'm going to Germany."

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' "Germany is a nice place."

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'To Stuttgart, met my brother for the first time since 2011.'

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This is my brother, Mohammad.

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My other brother, Mahmud, he's staying in Berlin.

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THEY SPEAK OWN LANGUGE In Berlin.

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Mohammad reached last year and he speaks good German.

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Ja. Ein bisschen deutsch.

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I don't understand but I'm sure, maybe, in six months from now,

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I will be a fluent speaker of German.

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Deutschland.

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-Gote morgen.

-Guten morgen.

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-Guten morgen?

-Guten morgen, ja.

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You see? Just 24 hours in Germany

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and I've started to speak some German.

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I've done my best.

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I've tried and I've tried hard.

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I was almost killed.

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Like, in the future, why didn't you try to go to England? I did it.

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I've tried and I've tried hard to go to England.

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I mean, yeah...

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Germany, why not?

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Yeah.

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Guten...

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Guten tag. Guten morgen.

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We cannot see. I think it's gloomy.

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-Gloomy.

-Gloomy.

-It's called fog.

-Oh.

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Yeah, it's gloomy.

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But I hope that in Finland it should be better than this, not like this.

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I like the normal weather.

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I can see here the refugees.

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Finland.

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'In Afghanistan, Sweden is a very popular and famous country.'

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And I was feeling very good that I was in Sweden, in Europe.

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This is me, Sadiq, and I'm in Sweden.

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It was very interesting for me.

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I had a very good feeling.

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'But if the European people go to Afghanistan as a refugee,

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'what would happen?

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'The Taliban would arrest them'

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and brutally kill them, the European people.

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It was a very long trip - too much long.

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Er...

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We started the trip this morning and now it's night.

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For some guys, this bus is the last bus

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because they want to stay here in Sweden.

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And to get to Finland, we have a little more journey.

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Maybe it takes one or two days to arrive in Finland.

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OK, thank you.

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-You're going to Finland?

-Yeah.

-OK.

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-It's going to be cold.

-Oh.

-You want?

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Yeah. Thank you, sir.

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It's a cap and it's...

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We have clothes in the basement, if you need.

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-Hi.

-Hi.

-Welcome. You need anything?

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Over there you have some t-shirts and you have some jackets.

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Oh, thank you.

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Oh!

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Let me check, maybe it's for girls.

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Now I go to Finland.

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'I many times told my friends, "Look how European people

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' "are good and kind."

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' "We are not working here. They give us everything what we want." '

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This is a kind of chips.

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THEY SPEAK OWN LANGUAGE

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My friend says he put milk and said he can't find yoghurt.

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I said, "This is yoghurt." "Oh, I made a mistake."

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HE SPEAKS OWN LANGUAGE

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He said, "It is not tasty. I'm trying to eat fast to finish

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"and have yoghurt." HE LAUGHS

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'Many things are new for me -

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'the culture, the people.

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'It is completely different from Afghanistan.'

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No, not tasty.

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'In here is freedom. Freedom of everything.

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'They don't tell us, "You must be Christian."

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'And they say to us, "You are free, if you want to pray,

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' "if you want to go mosque.

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' "All what you want to do, you're free." '

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The European people are...keeping...dogs.

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They like dogs.

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Everybody has a dog.

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Here I realised what is equality.

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Men and women have the same rights, but here I have seen.

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It is great.

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'Because men and women are the same.

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'They are human beings.'

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So just one border remains to pass and arrive in Finland.

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We have passed ten countries, ten borders...

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..and just one remains.

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I have encouraged them to go to Finland because it is a nice place

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and I have never seen any pictures from Finland.

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But I know there is a nice place, I believe it.

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Finland is bigger than Germany,

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but the population is too little - five million.

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So we want to get there to increase the population of the country.

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I don't know, here is Finland or Sweden?

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-Sorry, sir. Here is Sweden or Finland?

-This is Finland.

-Oh.

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Yes! It is Finnish. Here is Finland.

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'I had a friend who told me there's another possible route...

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'to the UK.'

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So I said, "All right, I mean,

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"if it's not going to be an awful journey."

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And he said, "It's very easy.

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"You don't have to climb, you don't have to walk.

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"You don't have to worry, there's no police. There's nothing.

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"You just sit down and you end up in the UK."

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I said, "That easy?" He said, "That easy."

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I said, "This is impossible."

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I tried to find something on Facebook - there was nothing -

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and I was very suspicious.

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From inside the port.

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Now, I am under one of the lorries.

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We're just waiting, so we can sneak.

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'These smugglers, they've got a set of tools with them.

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'They use the tools, they open the back of the lorry.

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'They put us inside it and they relock it again.

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'The smugglers said, "Don't move."

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' "If you ever move, they will discover you,

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' "then the police will come." '

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'So I slept 12 hours, I thought I would wake up in the UK,

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'and the car never moved.

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'And was snoring.'

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And it was like a train. "Come on, man.

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"We are not going to lose this because of you."

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The entire port could hear us. "Come on, for God's sake."

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And I told him, "Look, if you ever sleep, we are fucked up."

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So I had to literally sit next to him,

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whenever he closed his eyes, just wake up, wake up.

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'Me and my friends, we spent three full days...

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'..at the back of that lorry...

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'..motionless...

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'..and that lorry never moved.'

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I would never have ever thought of going to England

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if I knew how bad Calais was.

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There is nothing different between Africa and here.

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To get this passport, it cost me 4,500 euros.

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I kind of wish we could have done this the legal way.

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I wish that there was somehow a way to get to our destinations legally.

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To find out about the making of this series,

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and to share your views, go to...

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..and follow the links to the Open University.

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