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It's been a remarkable week. Thousands of you have been in touch

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to eltell us your stories about finding work. We have found people

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work and have helped those looking, but we are not done yet. It is

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10.30pm, it is BBC Three, and this is the final, Haier Live! -- this

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Hello! I'm Richard Bacon, you are watching BBC Three and this is the

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final Up For Hire Live. Since Monday we've been pricing open the

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job situation to help you get that dream job. We will be shortly

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finding out what happened next bep, Sasha, Kirsty and Chris, very much

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the stars of our show -- Ben. They have tasted the work situation and

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we have partnered leading employers all week long with people in the

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audience right now. Tonight, High Street chain, Timpson is telling us

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who they are taking off the dole queue. There is still lots of time

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to pay a visit to our online jobs fair, and here to tell us all about

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it from our very own Chris Moyles show is Tina Daheley. Thank you,

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Richard. You have 25 minutes to get online and join the conversation.

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Now, throughout the week we have been following four young

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jobseeker's as they crammed a lifetime's career into a few days.

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We saw them tackling everything from starter jobs all the way up to

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running massive companies. They are here in the studio. It is Kirsty,

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Sasha, Chris and Ben, ladies and gentlemen. APPLAUSE It's been a,

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for us, it's been a fascinating week. Kirsty, are you glad you took

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part in the programme? At times it was difficult, you know, we were

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thrown things we had never ever done before, but yes, it has been

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absolutely fantastic. A real eye opener to the world of work. Chris,

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have you learned much about work, but yourself? I have learned that I

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can do anything, if I put my mind to it, well, not everything, but

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it's been very good. You have brought together Monckton

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Helicopters, that is the triumph of the week. Ben, you learned what is

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in a bacon burger if memory serves, are you pleased you took part?

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was stressful, there are places where I looked really silly, but

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the experience is great. It never would have gone like that if I was

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on my own. Sasha, you had an amazing week? I am quite a hard

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person, I never country in front of anyone, and this week I cried in

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front of everyone. There were points when I had a really good

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time. I met thee thee and she taught me everything. I got to me

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you! And I got to me you! I really enjoyed it, you have had this 40-

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year career fast-for warded, it seems that you have grown in

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confidence while watching you over the course of the few days. Over

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the last few weeks we have seen tears, bikinis, shouting, clones

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and Chris taking Liberty! But what happened when the fast-tracking

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came to a screeching halt. Let's start with Ben. I have learned that

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there are so many different paths to take. Everyone has floors. That

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is what I needed to realise. If Ben was always there... I haven't

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really done... I speak English... I haven't done research... This is

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the sense of insecurity. Did you ask who has the authority? No. It

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won't affect me as much as they used to, I guess. I'm Ben... Now

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I'm being to being unemployed. If the agency came to me and they were

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like they wanted me to work in head office, but in the restaurant, I

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would understand what that was, I would jump at that opportunity.

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are you, Ben. You sent an e-mail asking for advice, I thought that a

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great step. What are the key questions that you would like my

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advice on? How far down do you have to work to go up. I would reframe

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that speaking, don't speak of up and down. Think about it as

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starting on the front line. I work myself at the front line every week.

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It is so important to understand what is going on at that level. So

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I'm a big fan of that. Your front line is a phase of that journey,

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but as long as there is something to follow, you need to do that in

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the job. I need to rephrase my CV. So, what do you want me to do with

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the VC? I'm going to send it to you to see if there is anything that

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you think is alarming and what is good about it, what is bad, what I

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should highlight more in interviews. Excellent. I would be happy to do

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that? Anything else I can do for you, Ben? No. Are you OK? OK.

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let me take you to the door. The ball is lying there in front of the

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door and he is not kicking it. didn't ask him for a job, because I

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might ask him for a role later on. At the moment I think that I will

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reassess my situation. Maybe I should just go and ask him for a

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job. I can't go back in there now. Give me a moment to think... What

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do you think that I should do? APPLAUSE That's a great reaction in

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the room! At the end of that conversation that you had at the

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end with the Chief Executive, Peter. Watching you two, there, it was

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like watching two people who really fancy each other. You were missing

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the signals. You've been unemployed since March, year a Green Goddess

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wait, have you found a job yet? I haven't found a job yet, but I

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did go back and ask Jens for a job. There is something in the pipeline

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there. Never mind the pipeline business, is there a question that

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you would like to ask Jens? When can I start!? That is exactly the

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self-confidence and the drive I want to see in you. I'm so happy

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that is coming out. Listen, the idea you came up with on the salad

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bar was good, but what was much more important was the way you went

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about it. The one thing you are strong at is that you relate to

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people, you respect people at every level of the organisation, whether

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it is at the restaurant or the head office. You relate to them so well.

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It is because you had the relationships that you build

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quickly, that you came up with a fantastic idea. You know, Pizza Hut

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is a hospitality business. We love people. We are a people business.

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You are a guy that loves people. You are a Pizza Hut guy, Pizza Hut

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loves you, so, you have yourself a job! High five! Well done! Well

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done! Can you tell him what job are we talking about? What job is he

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going to be doing? I will start Ben off serving guest -- guests. That

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is the front line it is the core. From there on, we are progressing

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him quickly into management, then to go to our marketing team, to

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work on the salad bar. Tell us what that means to you, Ben? To be

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honest, Jens is an amazing guy. He is so fantastic. To have someone

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like that looking out for me in a career, that is pretty sweet.

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guy. Good luck in your new career. Ben, ladies and gentlemen. Well

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done. APPLAUSE Now, to Kirsty... Let's see what you've been up to

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since you're fast-track career finished. I've got a job! Finally!

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It was a guilty who I met at the AOL networking events. I went to

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his office in Piccadilly circus to meet him. He just gave me a job,

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really. It is communications executive. It is getting stuck into

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hard work. Using the skills that I've been trying to get across to

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employers in job applications and all of the work experience I've

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managed to get it will be incredibly exciting. The perfect

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first job, really. It's the beginning. Kirsty has the best

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opportunity to make the most of it Actually, you have to cut the

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umbilical and let them get on with it. Thank you. Goodbye, Kirsty.

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don't have a place in London. So I will take a bag and live out of

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that for a while. I will stay with Ben. So, yeah, it should be a laugh.

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I'm really pleased to be in London. This is what I thought I would have

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to do. What I was happy to do. So I'm glad to be here finally with a

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job to go to on Monday. The first day of my working life, really,

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really exciting. I hope that I can do a good job. Anybody who is

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anybody who has offered me advice, I have taken heed off. So do a good

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job, make an impression. When people are good, they do well.

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Lucky enough this we can we have three new starters in the business.

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First of all, Kirsty, who is joining us as our communications

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executive. We see a lot of bright graduates. He is was especially so.

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Really bright. Really personable. Dead keen it start to work to maim

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an impact. So we are very much looking forward to having her on

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board. One step closer to Downing Street! APPLAUSE Well, then,

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Kirsty? That's a great result! How long were you out of work when you

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joined us at the start of the week on the programme? It was seven

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months. He done three internships, but seven months without a job.

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got to know you at home, but you were getting down at home?

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Absolutely. What you did not see. Me and my friends had started a job

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club, but I was getting to the point where I was thinking what

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else could I do. And this job came from the AOL networking event? Kate

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from AOL is still with us. A council of reflections on Kirsty,

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Kate? Well, first of all, I'm thrilled that the whole project for

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Kirsty has come to this finale where she has a job with SOMO. They

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are a great agency, at the cusp of advertising. She could not be in

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greater hands and she said one step closer to becoming the Prime

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Minister, so, God help us all. you are moving in with Ben? Yes,

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the lovely Ben. Oops, do we need to buy a hat! Yes, we are Peter and

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Jordan! I'm Jordan! Dad, are you pleased that Kirsty has been with

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us this week? It has been an experience. I've been on the

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touchline but unable to influence things. I could not be more proud.

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The courage she has shown through the episodes. Her and the other

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candidates. Was it hard to watch when it went wrong for her? It was

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almost impossible. I've been wishing her every success for so

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long now, perhaps, she is on her way. It is brilliant news. You are

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behind the Downing Street news? not so sure about that, she has a

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year or two to go. You are the block that sacked your wife three

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times?! You have to make some of these hard decisions! APPLAUSE

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Kirsty, congratulation, it's been great getting to know you. Thank

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you very much. I would like to say this has been an amazing

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opportunity, but there are still 1 million people unemployed. If we

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are not skilled enough, maybe we need training it must be targeted

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at languages, technology and business. We are keen and

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enthusiastic. We know the scale of the problem. People can get in

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touch with us at the website. We have had an incredible response

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online. Adam: "I started watching on Monday. I have been watching

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tonight as a freshly employed person. Thank you for your tips."

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Nicholas said: "I got a job yesterday three hours after the

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interview. Watching the show was kept at advice at the forefront of

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my mind." Richard said, "Thank you for the tips, I watch three nights

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ago and came handy for my interview. Turns out I got the job." Sioux is

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a careers adviser and says she has used some of our tips when giving

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advice to others. Trisha says "It has been a great support to know I

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am not alone as an out-of-work graduate. It has motivated me to

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think outside the box, and that has resulted in two interviews." Lily

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says: "The past four days of open my eyes. I feel motivated."

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Katerina says "It tells me not to go insane any more. The emotional

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support was the big help and I got a kick that I needed to keep

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going." Shane says, finally, "I have handed out my CV. I went to

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the employer instead of bringing them. It has helped me in for

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better prospects." That is incredible. Some terrific stories

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there. Over the last week, we have got 28 paid placements with the

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companies we are partnered with, Starbucks, Hilton Worldwide, Argos,

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Scottish Power and Greggs. But we have not finished yet. Our final

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partner was tense and, he was a look of their interviews,

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highlighting the importance of dazzling them with a winning

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personality. -- Timpson. The ideal candidate has got loads of

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personality, needs to get out of bed in the morning and earn a wage.

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I am Denniston Air One to give the tour. For me. -- I am Dennis and I

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want to give you the tour. looking for life qualifications.

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looking for life qualifications. was the only unemployed in my

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family. My brother goes on about it. If you speak to James, it is all

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about the personality. That says it all.

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Tommy about yourself. I used to work with events, writing... --

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tell me about yourself. That is about it. What is your favourite

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band? That is tougher. Death tones. I don't know them. I have done a

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lot of customer service. My parents owned a takeaway. I have been

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helping out with customers for years. I have a young family to

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take care of, so for me, I am looking for a career. Up until now,

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this has been taking my boxes. do not know where you're going to

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go in life but there are always new opportunities to open. I thought

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something like this would be a new challenge, a completely different

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market. We wanted a key cut, but we did not know what sort of key we

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actually needed. Adie got any questions for me? I read a little

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bit. He said that you could sell snow to an Eskimo. How can you do

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that? -- have you got any questions. It comes down to a personality. I

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am a salesman, more than an IT guy. How would you tell the Eskimo to

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buy snow? It would be very difficult. Are you a city or United

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fan? Either. It was going so well until then. He would have been

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impressed by the fact that I have come away from Plymouth to

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Manchester. My son will look up to me one day and say, Daddy, what did

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you do? I am trying to get myself a APPLAUSE And you're here now.

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Clearly, this means a lot here. would help me to provide for my son

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and keep a family together, and be somebody. It is depressing when you

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are not in work. I had been out of work since July. To tell us who was

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successful, we are joined by the man they call Mr Timpson, from

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Cumbria. Mr James Finson. Ladies and gentlemen. A's can you hear us

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bouquet? -- a's. You have for us two paid placements to give to our

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applicants. What are the jobs? jobs are working in our shops

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around the country serving customers, repairing shoes, cutting

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keys. And it can be the beginning of a career? Everybody in our

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business is promoted from within, so we hope to recruit ambitious

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people who are really going for it. Who is the job going to? I have

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done the interviews and I was really impressed. I would love to

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have Reuel and Tang working for us. Working for us. Well done. James,

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can you see these guys? Yes. you see the smiles on their faces?

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It is great. I am delighted for them. They deserve this and I know

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they will be really good. Thank you. How long have you been looking for

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work? About seven months now. It is getting depressing. Being at home

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all the time, you were looking for work, but you want to get out there.

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How long have you been working -- looking? Since July. What was that

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like? Depressing. Hard, but my advice was to just get out of bed.

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Get out of bed and don't give up. And you want to do this for you and

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your son. For me and my son. Congratulations. Thanks, James.

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Sorry about Manchester City! James Simpson, thank you for joining us.

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-- Timpson. Commiserations to anyone unsuccessful this time

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around. All through this week, as we have said, the more interviews

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you do, the better your chances are. If you need more advice, about CBEs

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or anything else, go to our website: -- CVs. We started the

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week hoping to fill 23 paid work positions. Some of the companies

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were so impressed with the calibre of candidates that they met, they

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created an additional five positions. And means the number of

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people now in paid work has gone up to 30 and they are all on the wall

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just there. 30 people. Marc Pugh son, where are you? -- P

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Merson. You are telling us about 20 used to work with a fiery chef,

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naming no names. You're an entrepreneur and you have made a

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lot of money. After one of the studio shows, someone in the

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audience came up to you and had a chat. Tell us what happened.

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chatted to someone else and I was sitting up there. As soon as the

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cameras went off, he jumped out of his seat and came to somebody else

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who had said he was a successful businessman. I spotted him and I

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thought, he has got balls, he is going to make it happen. I could

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not get a word in edgeways. I was trying to give him my card. I told

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him to contact me and send me a CV. And he did two. Are you in a

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position to offer me a job? -- to offer him a job? He is sitting

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right here. You were impressed by his enthusiasm. Yes. Do you know

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about this? I was told to come back after Tuesday but it did not tell

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me why. Tell them why. I would love to offer you a job. I think you

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have got balls, I think you are an entrepreneur in your blood. There

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were 200 people in the audience and not one of them jumped on that guy.

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How about that? APPLAUSE How long have you been

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looking? I have been looking for work in London for the last two-

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and-a-half months. It was four months prior to that to save up to

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move over here to pursue my goal. Were you from? Canada. What sort of

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work. --? We have 100 staff based in central London, and I have five

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more positions available. Anybody else who wants one, I am here.

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Jumper over chairs. You are looking for athletic ability! Five more

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jobs. We have many unemployed people and the audience and you are

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ready to take people on. How much do they get in touch? If You were

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Here,, contact me. You can go to the website. -- come and contact me.

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Very decent of you. Should I say what my answer is? If the answer is

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no, that means that this series will end on a very sour note.

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Absolutely, for ratings sake, I have no hesitation in saying yes.

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Congratulations. Thank you, Mark. Earlier, we saw what happened to

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Ben and Kirsty since they finished their career, but what about Our

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other recruits, Sacha and Chris? Let us start with Sacha. I feel

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like I have changed. Working here has set my mind going. If I cannot

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find a job out there that I really want to do, maybe I will create my

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own. It sounds kind of daring. My idea is to create a girl's world.

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It is for children to dress up, maybe have been Mears -- their

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nails done, their hair done, and they will be able to have the

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experience of being a princess for a day. I need to start researching

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places. I want to look at a property at sea had began need

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somewhere, what rooms I need, what facilities. I need an investor. I

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need lots of other things, but I'm not going to set and go, I'm scared.

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I am a mother and that was one of the things they said. You have all

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the skills that you do not know. One of the bigger skills is that I

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know what children like. Fear told me that I had great ideas and I

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should go with them. She has inspired me. I'm in a good place at

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the moment. -- Thea. I have loved getting to know you this week. You

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have been out of work for a long time. A very long time. Over two

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years. I did work before I had children, only two. I have not been

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able to work because I wanted to stay at home and look after them.

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And also, I have been looking for work. And we had the discussion

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earlier, if you're unemployed for a while, why not start your own

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business? And that is something you would like to do? It is definitely

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an idea. I came out of their presentation and I thought,

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although I was petrified of doing the presentation and I had lots of

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scared feelings, but I had this idea. I was like, you know what,

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I'm going to research and see how it goes. Once started, I could not

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stop. I have lows of research. loads of research. And that came

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out of being the MD of Nails Inc. There is something you want to say

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There is something you want to say to her? Two things. First of all,

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the pitch that he did, you spoke to three boutiques, which was a

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completely new market for Nails Inc. All three of those said they were

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interested in talking further or have said yes to stocking our

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products. You're so much more capable than you think your are

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because you got three and 83. -- three out of three. Two offers for

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you. That is news to me, that you're wanting to set up your own

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business and I am very excited that he felt inspired to do that, and

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that you are embracing all of your skills to go off and set up your

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own business. Either I will help you in any way Akam and mentor you

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and do what I can to help set up a business, or in the meantime, as an

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alternative, if you would like to come in and work at Nails Inc for a

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three-month apprenticeship, and really learn the business from the

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front line in the office. A3 month full-time paid job? Full-time.

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love the sound of that. I think I will ask my dad. He has not even

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heard of my business idea and neither has my mother. She's

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probably quite shocked. I did not want tell anyone and get negative

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feedback until I did it. But that sounds amazing! Good. You deserve

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it. My eldest is seven, and she would love to go to a goals world.

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-- girls world. I will bring her along when you open your first

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along when you open your first store because it sounds incredible.

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I am getting over-excited again. like you over-excited. Thank you,

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Sacha. Congratulations. APPLAUSE Well done.

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Finally, Chris. Let us have a look at what you have been up to since

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you're fast track. I enjoyed the experience a lot. I still think I

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am lucky to have had an experience like that. I'm having a brilliant

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time. I have learned a lot. The experience had made me wanted more.

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I have updated my CV. I have said I was the nd of Liberty! -- nd.

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Development director. I had been looking at my CV and looking at

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these crappy jobs, straight away, I think they will give me an

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interview. Young people, walking along the streets,... Being an --

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being a Managing Director at Liberty, and then coming back here

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to work minimum-wage a in a bar, all right... That is how I can

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explain at the moment, just a half. I want to be back at that level

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again, not managing director, but something important. Here, I feel

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like I'm not important because it is a minimum wage job. It is just

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not me. I want to feel like I want to go to work. I am definitely

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moving to London, but it is just a matter of time, getting the money,

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getting a job and doing it. APPLAUSE I think you have been

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outstanding this week. You have really shone. How long have you

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been out of work? Since 20th May 10. And you have not got a job yet? --

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since 20th May 10. And we saw you becoming the managing director of

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Liberty. Ed, you were impressed with him? Of a a a much. -- very

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much. He had some confidence issues, but I think he got over them very

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quickly. He gave a killer presentation to the management

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group. That can be kind of scary. He had some amazing ideas and

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observations, things that we are going to take on board. Is there

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anything you would like to say? would like to ask Chris if he would

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like to come and join Liberty. That is a good response. Ben is

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nodding furiously! What are you talking about? He would be selling

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at first and we would see her that went and then we would have a

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conversation about the retail management programme. Three months

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or-so? No end to it. Forever! open ended full-time job. What do

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you think? Well, I'm going to have to sort of take into account... No,

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I'm here! And loving it, my hands are sweating. The answer is yes.

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course it is. Congratulations. I can confirm that they are

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marvellously sweaty hands. That is it. It is a great way to win the

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series. Thank you for watching. Well done to Chris, Sacha, Kirsty

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