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A couple of nights ago, Katie Hopkins said most Agger -- most | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
degrees were Mickey Mouse. He did not like that. Tonight, the | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
graduates fightback. It's 9pm and it is the final night of up for | :00:22. | :00:32. | |
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Welcome, good evening. It is a couple of minutes past nine and | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
this is BBC Three's Up For Hire 5. All week, we have been putting the | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
world of work under the microscope so you can find out how best to get | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
a job and climb the greasy pole. Tonight, we will see what happens | :01:08. | :01:16. | |
when Kirsty, Ben, Sacha and Chris become chief executives. All four | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
of Britain's biggest companies. James Caan is here to tell us what | :01:20. | :01:26. | |
it is like making a fortune and how to make a fortune. Also, we have | :01:26. | :01:36. | |
Sarah Cox and Greg James as well. We will be revealing some more of | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
our job-hunters getting paid work life here in the studio. Greggs the | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
Bakers is doing the hiring. And our big question this evening is, | :01:45. | :01:49. | |
instead of waiting for a job to come to you, what is stopping you | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
from creating your own? Why not start your own business? Are you | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
too frightened? Young people around the world don't have benefits to | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
rely on. They have to be self employed to eat, so why can't young | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
British people do that? We want to hear from you, and to tell you how | :02:06. | :02:15. | |
to get your opinions heard, from the Chris Moyles show, it is Steena. | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
Good evening. Tonight, we want to hear your stories. Have you started | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
your own company? What was it? Did it work? The great university | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
debate is raging from Tuesday's show after Katie Hopkins said that | :02:30. | :02:36. | |
loss of degrees are Mickey Mouse. loss of degrees are Mickey Mouse. | :02:36. | :02:36. | |
Her words, not mine. Do you agree? Her words, not mine. Do you agree? | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
Her words, not mine. Do you agree? Get online and tell us. E-mail us: | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
Or go to a Facebook page. Why you're there, join in with our | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
online Careers Fair. This week, we have been putting you directly in | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
touch with one of Britain's biggest employers. Tonight is your last | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
chance to make use of this exclusive hotline. We are people | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
from companies like Live Nation and the Co-op waiting to answer your | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
the Co-op waiting to answer your questions. That phrase, Mickey | :03:08. | :03:15. | |
Mouse degrees, not very popular. Delight that phrase? No! Or when we | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
rehearsed it, there was mutiny in the run. To business, literally. | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
Kirsty, then, Chris and Sacha, they are at the final stage of their | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
careers at fast-forward. They started out as pirates and burger | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
flippers on Monday, and tonight, the end is in sight. Four major | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
companies allowed them to take the reins for a few days. If you are a | :03:38. | :03:43. | |
shareholder in any event, you may want to look away now. | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
The four recruits are about to get the ultimate crash course in | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
running a business. How why you? am fine. To set up a business, you | :03:52. | :03:54. | |
am fine. To set up a business, you have to be fearless. You can do | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
research, but there is a definite moment where you have to just take | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
the plunge and do it. How are you? Sometimes I wake up in the night | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
and I worry about things. It is not always easy. These are high | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
pressure jobs. Come and sit down. I have been so lucky to have mentors, | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
and I have thrived under their leadership. You must be Chris. The | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
end he is the person who is responsible for the direction, | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
profitability and a strategy for the business. The buck stops here. | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
-- Managing Director. For these four companies with a total | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
workforce of 18,000 and a combined turnover of �600 million, the buck | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
is about to start somewhere else. For the next three days, you are | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
going to be me. Oh. I thought it would be great if he did my job for | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
a few days. How do you feel about that? You are going to be the | :04:54. | :05:01. | |
managing director. OK. For now on, you are going to be running the | :05:01. | :05:08. | |
company. Oh, my gosh. Don't look so company. Oh, my gosh. Don't look so | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
terrified. In his first challenge as managing director, Chris will | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
have to take charge of how business begins. At the high-end department | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
store. 35 quid! Hundreds of hopefuls suppliers are about to | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
attempt to convince Liberty to stock their products. I cannot | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
believe how many people have come in here. It is a massive deal. | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
Today, it will mean convincing Chris. You're going to have to take | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
the five that we are going to purchase. We're probably looking at | :05:42. | :05:48. | |
�250,000 worth of business. Deep breathing. Their request for a | :05:48. | :05:54. | |
proposal has come in. Crikey. while, Kirsty must lead a last | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
minute pitch for a major advertising contract. This | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
afternoon, we are going to get a cab and you will picture | :06:01. | :06:08. | |
presentation. I thought you were going to say fab. The pitch is | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
important because the clients are important. I am a perfectionist | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
when it comes to presenting. Kirsty has just four hours to put together | :06:17. | :06:27. | |
a presentation. I am physically shaking. Chris' buying team has | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
drawn up a shortlist for the managing director. But it is not | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
assured. -- not that short. I think he will struggle with getting | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
information out of these designers today. These are all my own | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
drawings. If he does not ask the questions, he will not get the | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
pricing right. How much other bags? �60. When they come in and they are | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
actual people, you can tell that some of them are really nervous. It | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
is a bit like, if I choose them, they could end up minted, so it is | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
a big choice. We're going to have to leave in half an hour. I would | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
love to see what you're going to present. I don't think I have got | :07:09. | :07:16. | |
anything to show you. Really? This is coming down to delegation. She | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
could have been directing how the presentation looked and appeared, | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
and that would have given her more time to pull things together. | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
Genuinely, it is not enough time to get somebody to do this. I'm going | :07:27. | :07:34. | |
to make an idiot of myself. It is decision time for Chris. If he | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
makes the wrong choice, there is an immediate cost to the country -- to | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
the company because we will have to get rid of things, but the real | :07:41. | :07:48. | |
cost to the company is opportunity. These RDSs, this is a maybes. These, | :07:48. | :07:58. | |
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no. I think the apron is to Nish. It is a great man's back. -- too | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
much. I thought this was a winner. I think the decisions have been | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
considered. It is a partial success. The only thing, work on your | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
presentation. Everybody needs a little more polish. OK. | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
questions you need to ask? I would quite like to work on what I'm | :08:17. | :08:25. | |
going to say. Confidence and body language. When you are pitching | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
extremely -- it is extremely important, because there is nothing | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
worse than being presented by somebody who is quaking in their | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
boots. This is my first presentation. 70% of Our users have | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
been on holiday in the last four months. And in interactivity... I | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
am annoyed that I have given the impression I cannot handle things. | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
Nice to meet you. I thought it was going to be a nightmare, but it | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
wasn't. You had it far more together than you let me believe | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
and I think you lead your self- belief. I to volley opportunities, | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
this one most clearly speaks to me as the job I would love to do. -- | :09:05. | :09:09. | |
out of all the opportunities. It was difficult not to feel the | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
weight of being the head of a well in Europe. | :09:11. | :09:21. | |
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APPLAUSE That is exciting. Big jobs. Chris, you had not heard | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
of Liberty? I had not, but I had seen the that -- I have seen the | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
building. And you a charge of �250,000 worth of business? Yet, | :09:32. | :09:38. | |
that is serious. Kirsty, you were at a awhile. You were worried about | :09:38. | :09:48. | |
making an idiot of yourself. My dad was worried about my language. | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
did you enjoy it? Cage was an absolutely amazing woman. She has | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
got to where she is through lots of hard work and working her way up, | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
so it was a massive ask for me. It was a crash course, brilliant but | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
scary. So we're going to see two more films, second day is in big | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
jobs, and this is your final day. Four if you have been unemployed | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
for a while. Is this exercise useful? So useful. I have learned | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
so much. It has been a roller- coaster but hopefully I have got to | :10:22. | :10:28. | |
the top of it and I will stay there for a while. Let us talk to Kate | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
from their wealth. What was your initial thoughts about Kirsty? | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
initial thoughts about Kirsty? did not get off to the best starter, | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
initially. I think she was really nervous. Of what you saw there, I | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
tried to coax her confidence out. Once she is on a roll, she is | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
unbelievable. You just needed to find the confidence. First | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
impressions, they were not great, because she was quite stand-offish, | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
just with nerves. Once she found her feet, she was off. You can be | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
quite stand-offish? It was a really unusual set of circumstances. I am | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
not on television all the time. In real night -- in real life, I am | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
pretty funny. But that was real life, wasn't it? With cameras. A | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
quick thought on how Chris got on. I think he was a little bit of a | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
fish out of water, when he started. But he was definitely thrown into | :11:29. | :11:36. | |
the deep end. What I admire his that he took some time and got | :11:36. | :11:43. | |
himself together. He came back out onto the floor, and he made some | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
really good observations. He got to work. The one thing that he did not | :11:47. | :11:55. | |
do is quite. -- quit. The films later tonight are terrific so we | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
will see how you got on on the second and third day. James Caan,, | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
set up here for a moment. One person that knows what it is like | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
person that knows what it is like to be at the very top of an | :12:05. | :12:14. | |
international firm. James Caan, good evening. First of all, you are | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
former Dragon and a multi- millionaire. Well done. Thank you. | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
Didn't he do well?! I thought I would begin by asking you what you | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
made of the film. Firstly, I think you should all be congratulated. | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
Anybody who has been put in a situation that you have never | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
situation -- never experienced before, going from been unemployed | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
to may be the most senior job in the country, running a large | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
department store, even if that was me as a Dragon, I think I would | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
have been as nervous tissue. I like watching your reaction when you | :12:48. | :12:54. | |
find out what you were taking on. It was fantastic. Let us talk about | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
how you were getting started. If some people cannot find a job, as | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
so many are struggling to, should they start their own company? You | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
started with a nifty little ruse involving getting an office on Pall | :13:07. | :13:13. | |
Mall. For me, one of the biggest lessons was learning that when | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
you're young, you're fearless because you have nothing to lose. | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
When you get older, you get responsibilities, marriage, | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
children, and you think you cannot do it. When you're young, you have | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
that energy and drive to say, I can do it. That is what happened to me. | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
I thought, what have I got to lose? If it does not work out, I can | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
always get another job. What did you do? Essentially a wanted to set | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
up a headhunting firm and they realise that location was important | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
but it did not have any money. I went to Pall Mall and found this | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
fantastic office but it was not really in office, it was a broom | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
cupboard, but it had an address and it was Pall Mall. Literally, I | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
would sit there on my own in this tiny office and when people were | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
coming to see me, I would tell them, sorry, we're so busy all the | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
meeting rooms are chock-a-block, can we go around the corner to the | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
Ritz and maybe we could have a chat there? I would not buy tea or | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
coffee, because it was really busy, and we would just sit in the lounge | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
area. A lot of it was just confidence and energy. The lesson | :14:15. | :14:22. | |
of that, allied to your clients. Did I say that? -- like to. We're | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
moving on to the debate. What advice would you have to young | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
people out there, thinking of starting up their own business. If | :14:29. | :14:36. | |
we define finance, how easy or difficult is it? It is clearly very | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
difficult. If you can find 50 reasons why you should or could not | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
do it, but you know, some of the greatest businesses on the planet | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
were started by people who had nothing. But what they did as they | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
had belief in themselves, confidence, and the desire. The | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
greatest way to start at a business is going to the bank or family and | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
friends, because clearly, when you start off, -- start off, you will | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
not get the money from a bank. It is not always about money, it is | :15:03. | :15:12. | |
Great. Not everyone can get money from family and friends, but I see | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
your point. James, the master of his own destiny by setting up his | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
own business. With nearly 1 million young people out of work, they are | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
the figures that came out last week. If you can't find a job, is it time | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
to create your own? Let's go to the audience. Let's start by meeting | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
Jamal Edwards. Hello, Jamaal. Good evening, tell us your story. What | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
age did you start your business? was about 15. Tell us about the | :15:39. | :15:47. | |
business? It is a broadcast, freestyle, a whole load of acts. | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
How did you get it started? My main thing was back in the day, my | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
friends, artists were not getting to main stream like they are today. | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
Like BBC, ITV. I wanted to create a platform for them to go on and | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
spread their music. That was my passion to get it out to millions | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
of people. Soy thought I would start off something. From then it | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
snowballed. James was talking about the bank of family and friends, you | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
didn't have that? No. I got a camera for Christmas. I started off | :16:20. | :16:27. | |
filming foxs in the back garden. I thought I was like Steve Owen. | :16:27. | :16:34. | |
don't want to become him! Then I started to go tonne the music. We | :16:34. | :16:41. | |
went on the internet and got thousands of hits. Simon? A lot of | :16:41. | :16:45. | |
graduates just expect a job. Why not set up yourself. Like James has | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
said, there is a lot of help out there. You can't expect for a job | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
to fall on you. What do you have to lose. Just do it. I have done it | :16:54. | :17:02. | |
myself. What did you do? I have an online music festival website. It a | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
is all live music. Also I'm helping other people get into journalism | :17:07. | :17:12. | |
and music as well. So giving back to other people. Put your hand up, | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
who is unemployed here, who has been looking for are a while? The | :17:18. | :17:24. | |
gentleman there, why haven't you done it? I wanted to comment on the | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
statement about graduates expecting jobs to fall into your lap. That is | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
not what my friends feel like. We go to school to educate ourselves | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
and move forward. We are still trying to sort out what it is that | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
we want, but by no means do we feel entitled, that when we graduate | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
that something is going to come up to us. I spend my days looking for | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
work. Why not set up your own business? There is nothing that has | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
jumped out in my mind for things that I want to do. I have tried to | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
set myself up to bringing my abilities to what I have | :18:00. | :18:08. | |
established, but I don't think that is a reason for me to be seen as | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
expecting a job to fall into lie lap. Frazier? You started your | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
business when you were two years old or something? How old were you? | :18:18. | :18:24. | |
I was 14 years old. My grandmother taught me how to make jam. I | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
started selling it to neighbours, to friends. Now we have SuperJam on | :18:29. | :18:38. | |
the markets on the shelves. How old are you now? I am 2. We sell about | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
1 million jams of -- jars of jam a year. I would like to be pleased | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
for you, but in some ways your success makes me feel sick! Tina, | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
what are they saying online? Let's have a look to see what people are | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
saying. Karen says she would love to work for herself, but as a | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
single parent it is too big a risk in this economic client. So it is | :19:03. | :19:09. | |
the right time. Oliver says he started a business with help from | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
his friends and family, he was 16. Now, his business is worth �90,000. | :19:15. | :19:20. | |
That is impressive. Samantha says that lots of young people lack the | :19:20. | :19:25. | |
experience and the education to start up business. I don't think | :19:26. | :19:33. | |
that is -- I think that it is that schools don't provide enough | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
information on that in schools. Chris, you started working young? | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
was lucky in that I know that I wanted to do radio. I started to do | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
hospital radio at school. I went to university and did student radio. I | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
knew I wanted to do it. Experience was the key. That was it, really. | :19:52. | :19:59. | |
Yeah, I knew that I wanted to do it. And Sara Cox is behind you. We are | :19:59. | :20:05. | |
going to chat to you later. Hello. Becky you set up an unusual | :20:05. | :20:11. | |
business, what is your story? started up my business, Astley | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
Horses. I started it at school. There is no reason why you can't | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
start it at school. If you have the idea go for it and make it success | :20:20. | :20:27. | |
of it. Anything? Well? Some will be short-lived if they are rubbish. | :20:27. | :20:37. | |
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What is yours? Utterly Horses. We sell model horses. And we have | :20:37. | :20:43. | |
Utterly Saurus, which sells model dino saurs, but you need unique all | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
the way. The gentleman over there? I disagree with what she was saying. | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
I think that what James said is bang on the money. It is all about | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
the individual. Not everyone can start up their own business as they | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
don't have the right attitude and passion. Passion is key to the | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
business. I agree with what James said. It is about the individual. | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
Yes, anyone can attempt to do it, but some will not succeed. It is | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
easier to find a career if you are really passionate about something | :21:13. | :21:20. | |
to turn it into. But let's go to Tina. Tina? Lots more comments are | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
coming in. Phil says: I don't think it is a lack of Earlal spirit that | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
stops young peel, but the fear of wanting to take on more debt. | :21:31. | :21:36. | |
Craig: After I lost my job in 2007, I started my business in the front | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
room with a computer and telephone. Now I have a sales team, a | :21:39. | :21:46. | |
marketing team and we are about to move into bigger offices. Domino's | :21:46. | :21:53. | |
Pizza, there are companies getting in touch. Some franchisers started | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
off young. By working in the business first it can be done. | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
Thank you. Fascinating stories there. So, successful entrepreneurs | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
will often tell you that being their own boss is their dream job. | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
We asked some of my famous, close personal friends what their dream | :22:09. | :22:15. | |
job would be. What would Mai Mai dream job? I would like to work in | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
a cake shop. It would be something to do with space. A marine | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
biologist. A seriously entrepreneur! That is a dream that | :22:23. | :22:30. | |
will not happen. I would be the head of making little icing figures. | :22:30. | :22:40. | |
Qaun tum physics. Travel photography. A business negotiation | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
business. Ice-cream and panda bears! Maybe a florist. I like | :22:45. | :22:52. | |
flowers. You drive around in a truck, with a panda bear on the | :22:52. | :22:59. | |
back selling ice-cream. Combining pandas, polar bears and ice-cream. | :22:59. | :23:07. | |
Hmm, a hot day, what could be better?! APPLAUSE. Let's welcome to | :23:07. | :23:13. | |
the studio, another famous fashion Radio 1's Sara Cox is here. Hello! | :23:13. | :23:23. | |
Hello, Sara. Can I just check... Let me do this intro... I wondered | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
if there is a real Mickey Mouse degree. It sounds fun. You can | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
probably do a degree in Disney. It might be even valuable. Don't ooze | :23:34. | :23:41. | |
that phrase, they get angry! It could turn nasty. You have had | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
glamorous job, model, TV presenter, DJ, but it was not always like that. | :23:47. | :23:52. | |
You started off working in a terrible dead-end job that most | :23:52. | :24:01. | |
people would point-black refuse to do, I'm talking about the girlie -- | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
Girlie Show! You know what, I'm from a background where you wanted | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
to work as soon as possible, basically, my mum had not. She | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
worked hard, so I had to earn my own cash. I did a lot of bar work, | :24:14. | :24:18. | |
before I was old enough to work behind a bar I collected glasses | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
when I was 16. Pwh I -- when I was 16 I worked on the door of a | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
nightclub in Bolton. I would sit on the door and look at lists. It was | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
at the bottom of the stairs where the revellers would land when the | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
bouncers had kicked them out on the way out. So not glamorous. | :24:36. | :24:42. | |
sounds tern takening! It was. I worked in a sports shop. I worked | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
in the female division of the sportswear. Where did the drive | :24:46. | :24:51. | |
come from? The money really. Money was a means of escape. Freedom. | :24:51. | :24:58. | |
Being able to afford my own things. Were those jobs were useful, were | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
they? Were they useful when finding your way into media and television? | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
Yes, I think so. When you have worked for �2.50 an hour you | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
appreciate when you manage to make decent money, definitely, but it is | :25:11. | :25:13. | |
interesting that the whole thing about starting up your own business, | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
a lot of people want the comfort and the security of being employed, | :25:18. | :25:25. | |
not being responsible for a business, leaving work at 6pment on | :25:25. | :25:29. | |
a -- 6.00pm on Friday, and not thinking about work until Monday | :25:29. | :25:35. | |
morning. A lot of people are wired like that And also, it can involve | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
putting in money. If you haven't got a job, you may not have the | :25:39. | :25:43. | |
business. My family and friends would have closed their doors on me. | :25:43. | :25:50. | |
Really? No, not that bad. I mean I still get on with them alright. I | :25:50. | :25:58. | |
mean I've left a lot of them behind as I'm famous! Not really, hi, mum! | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
Now, through the week on Up For Hire Live, we have part nerd with | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
some of the country's leading employers to get some of you out of | :26:06. | :26:13. | |
the jobless line and into paid work. Already Virgin Media, Starbucks, | :26:14. | :26:23. | |
Scottish Power, they have hired 23 people. Tonight it is the turn of | :26:23. | :26:33. | |
:26:33. | :26:33. | ||
Greggs the Bakers. We have Roisin. Sara is a big Greggs fan! I would | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
spend my money at Greggs every morning on Saturday, so, thank you. | :26:37. | :26:44. | |
I am a big fan of the cheese and onion pasty. That is good. So, tell | :26:44. | :26:51. | |
us about the jobs you are offering? We have four jobs on the shops with | :26:51. | :26:56. | |
the focus on delivers fantastic customer service, making fresh | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
deliveries every day and a job in the bakery where the team makes | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
delicious cakes, breads and rolls. I love the way you explain that, it | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
is very much on message. These are good opportunities, are they three- | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
month positions? They are. They are potentially the beginning of the | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
career? We have spoken to the candidates about this leading to a | :27:21. | :27:23. | |
career within Greggs if they are interested in doing well and | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
working with us. How many positions are you offering? Five. That is a | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
lot. A lot of people have applied, you are offering five. You saw many | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
more. You have seen the positions applied on the website. What was | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
the standard of the applications? What were the mistakes? A few | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
people did not complete the form. Where they had the opportunity to | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
sell themselves, they missed that. My advice is to use that | :27:51. | :27:55. | |
opportunity. Sell yourself on paper, get your personality over in the | :27:55. | :28:01. | |
best way you can. How? The words you yues. Demonstrate that you know | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
about the business. Demonstrate that you are passionate, you have a | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
can-do attitude, that you are willing to get stuck in and do what | :28:11. | :28:21. | |
:28:21. | :28:22. | ||
is needed. Thank you very much, Roisin! APPLAUSE Thank you. Right | :28:22. | :28:31. | |
it is 9.29 on BBC Three's Up For Hire Live. This noisy area behind | :28:31. | :28:37. | |
me is the workshop where the studio job hunters are getting one-to-one | :28:37. | :28:45. | |
advice. Tonight, the mentors are from Rock Star enterprise and Crag | :28:45. | :28:52. | |
Rats. Well, from future star to nearly wrapped up, it is back to | :28:52. | :28:57. | |
see how the four fast h trackers, the stars of the show -- the fast- | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
trackers are getting on. Everyone knows that success is really about | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
one thing, getting the right people. Your first job of the day is | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
interviewing managers from a London support role. Now, for the first | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
time, Sasha is to conduct the round of a selection process. These are | :29:16. | :29:21. | |
the people that have applied for the role. I think it dawned on her | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
most what she was given the CVs for the role she is doing. She realised | :29:26. | :29:33. | |
that she is on her own. She has to do it. Is there, once I've done the | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
interview, how long should it take? She didn't ask me enough relevant | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
questions. She didn't ask me what to be asking the candidates. I've | :29:42. | :29:49. | |
been interviewed many a time. I know how they go well and how they | :29:49. | :29:56. | |
go wrong. I'm Sasha, nice to meet you. Come this way. I'm nearbyous | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
she will struggle. As the head of AOL Europe, Kirsty has been invited | :30:02. | :30:06. | |
to an exclusive networking event for business leaders. We have three | :30:06. | :30:10. | |
people that would love to talk to you. Don't limit the conversations | :30:10. | :30:16. | |
to awl the three, there are many people that are really interesting. | :30:16. | :30:23. | |
Do you imagine, I suppose, contents then as well as arts...? She is | :30:23. | :30:28. | |
asking great questions, but almost bordering on an investigative | :30:28. | :30:35. | |
journalist. Maybe she needs to keep it lighter. Do you have features? | :30:35. | :30:45. | |
:30:45. | :30:50. | ||
She is getting stuck. I think that she needs to work the room. | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
Nick Hines. She didn't ask for a card, nor give her card, nor ask me | :30:55. | :31:05. | |
:31:05. | :31:06. | ||
to contact her. That is a big no, She got the name of the brand wrong, | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
which might drive me nuts. She did not ask any financial questions, so | :31:11. | :31:18. | |
it went very personal very quickly. What colour is that? Beautiful. | :31:18. | :31:21. | |
Delight to take care of yourself? Is that something you pride | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
yourself on? -- do you like. lost professionalism quite early on. | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
She actually said "These questions are probably not very good, but | :31:31. | :31:37. | |
Ugo". These are not the greatest questions but I will ask anyway. | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
She was going to be asked questions that the interviewer had told her | :31:40. | :31:44. | |
was bad. I have said to make the second interview were more | :31:44. | :31:49. | |
financial, ask the interview me what drives profits. Profit, how do | :31:49. | :31:59. | |
:31:59. | :32:01. | ||
you deal with making profit and a lack of it? Shittu: The advice the | :32:01. | :32:07. | |
second time around. She still comes across too nervous. -- she | :32:07. | :32:12. | |
definitely took my advice. Kirsty has begun to hand out business | :32:12. | :32:19. | |
cards. And make an impression. We're doing our launch today, and | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
we have rebranded it. It already existed but now we are... I thought | :32:23. | :32:29. | |
she was very bright and interesting. She gave me some insight that I did | :32:29. | :32:35. | |
not know about. Quite impressed. think I just made a deal. Generally. | :32:35. | :32:42. | |
Decision time for Sacha. I think they both deserve the role. It is | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
not just a job working behind the bar, it really does mean something | :32:47. | :32:57. | |
:32:57. | :32:57. | ||
to them. I think I'm going to go with Jeanette. No, Lauren. You both | :32:57. | :33:00. | |
have different abilities and you are both perfect for the role in | :33:00. | :33:06. | |
different ways. You have given me a lot to think about. Janette, I | :33:06. | :33:13. | |
would like to offer you the role and the reason why is because I | :33:13. | :33:19. | |
feel that you are ready for the next step. I feel like a right knee | :33:19. | :33:26. | |
knee. That was awful. Lauren really wanted it. -- I feel really mean. | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
The way she looked at me was the way that I look at someone one want | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
a job. You could tell she wanted it. I have not done anything like this | :33:35. | :33:42. | |
before and I do not want to do it again. | :33:42. | :33:51. | |
A's -- APPLAUSE Sacha, good job overall but I'm not sure if asking | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
someone about make-up is necessarily the best interview | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
approach. Probably not the best but I was | :33:57. | :34:00. | |
trying to get to an approach where if she took care of herself, she | :34:00. | :34:05. | |
might take care of the customer as well. Don't get me started. It was | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
a mess and it went with the wrong. I felt guilty because I was not | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
doing to us again, it was their lives and I could see they wanted | :34:12. | :34:18. | |
it. It didn't all go wrong. Good evening. Did it all go wrong? | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
evening. Did it all go wrong? at all. I thought she did really | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
well. That was your first day with us, and that was the first task. As | :34:25. | :34:28. | |
the footage goes on, you will see that she did really well. She has | :34:28. | :34:30. | |
that she did really well. She has some great raw talent. Was it worth | :34:30. | :34:37. | |
it? It was the most amazing experience. You're my role model | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
now. Literally, spending time with her was the best thing I could have | :34:42. | :34:46. | |
ever done. We had a good time. had a great time and I learned so | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
much about myself. I learned to be confident, which is something you | :34:50. | :34:57. | |
taught me. Thank you. Any thoughts on that particular film? It is | :34:57. | :35:03. | |
difficult. That is really tough. For thrown into a big job. Yeah. Do | :35:03. | :35:10. | |
you want to do that in future? It was hard, because it did not row | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
-- did not know the role. So it was like picking someone for something | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
you do not understand. I would love to have my own business, but one | :35:19. | :35:25. | |
thing I have learned, by watching the whole film is that it is hard | :35:25. | :35:32. | |
work. Limos and cigars, I did not see any of that once! She was doing | :35:32. | :35:37. | |
her own thing, being down to earth, but it is hard. All the work and | :35:37. | :35:42. | |
none of the fund. None of the fun, but it was amazing. We look forward | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
to the last films later. On Tuesday night, Katie Hopkins talked about | :35:47. | :35:56. | |
what she called Mickey Mouse degrees. Mickey Mouse degrees. She | :35:56. | :36:01. | |
said that all former polytechnics should be burned to the ground. I | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
did not expect that to go down well. You were furious. Some few have | :36:05. | :36:13. | |
come down to the studio tonight to express your anger. You have a | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
serious point to make about this. You were watching on Tuesday. That | :36:16. | :36:21. | |
is why you have come down. That is why. What struck you about what | :36:21. | :36:25. | |
Katie Hopkins was saying? Basically, she was saying that she thinks that | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
you should scrap things like media. I am very passionate about media | :36:29. | :36:34. | |
because I studied it at college. Because she has said that, I do not | :36:34. | :36:37. | |
know whether I should go to you need to go and do media, or should | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
I change my career path, --? You're saying you are thinking of not | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
doing a degree? She said it was a Mickey Mouse degree. What does she | :36:47. | :36:51. | |
mean by that? I think that is prejudice. Some of them are clearly | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
very good. Here is a guide, listened to what she says and do | :36:54. | :36:59. | |
the opposite. It is an important point, if it had that impact. There | :36:59. | :37:05. | |
was a feeling that that show was negative against agrees. We have | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
some people here putting the other side of that story. Simon, what did | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
you want to say? To be honest, I was absolutely a rage that she | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
could say that about degrees. What gives her the right? Who does she | :37:17. | :37:27. | |
:37:27. | :37:30. | ||
think she is? Who is she? A's -- APPLAUSE Kirsty, you have got a | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
degree in journalism. I have. One thing that has not, is | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
the fact that the last government's policies was to get 50% of young | :37:40. | :37:45. | |
people to go to university. Lots of people raise their aspirations, and | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
it does not seem to have been a plan of what we were going to do | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
next. Obviously, we are lazy and idiots, but we bought the green -- | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
reebok the Dream. We were promised jet packs. Do you regret doing that | :37:58. | :38:03. | |
agree? I want to be Prime Minister in 30 years' time and I think that | :38:03. | :38:09. | |
I could be. In no small part, that is down to the fact that I went to | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
university. If only there is a -- if only there was a prime | :38:14. | :38:18. | |
ministerial decree. In fact, the rays, BP at Oxford. I did an | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
English degree and if I did not do that, I would not be here now. The | :38:22. | :38:29. | |
experience I got from that, I learned so much and I grew so much. | :38:29. | :38:35. | |
I learned the skills that I use. Even though I might not use my | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
degree in the future, the people I have met, it was so important. You | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
cannot put enough emphasis on that. That is the point that Richard Reed | :38:43. | :38:46. | |
made the other night. Catherine Kello, you were watching the show | :38:46. | :38:56. | |
this week and you want to make a point. I work for a company which | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
provides university employer guides, and research into the graduate | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
market. Going to university, I think it is important and it is a | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
positive thing, but only if people go with the mindset of a career, | :39:08. | :39:14. | |
and keep that focus. They should go to universities with the employers | :39:14. | :39:22. | |
are and where they are targeting. Why did you shout, rubbish? | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
studied English literature and I have not gone into a career about | :39:25. | :39:34. | |
English, but the two guys who are the partners in my business, I met | :39:34. | :39:40. | |
them both at university. Tom, and a tinge to dash through the | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
entrepreneurial staff at the University and James Ward with him | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
on a university project. They are younger than us but I would not | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
have my company if I had not been a university. We could do more on | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
this, I'm sorry we have run at a time. You have some messages coming | :39:54. | :40:02. | |
in. Lot of companies are online. -- lots of companies are online. | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
Companies like Thistle Hotels and Domino's Pizza. Here is what they | :40:06. | :40:13. | |
have been hiding out. -- finding out. "Career adviser told me to | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
take my degree of my CV were applying for non-graduate jobs. | :40:16. | :40:21. | |
Could it be true?" Live Nation have responded: "We wouldn't recommend | :40:21. | :40:26. | |
anything but 100% truth on your CV. Perhaps a cover letter detailing | :40:26. | :40:29. | |
why you would be engaged in the role and how support in your career | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
would help overcome the over- qualified issue." The suggest not | :40:34. | :40:37. | |
worrying too much about coming across as over-qualified. "One | :40:37. | :40:41. | |
great way to overcome the barrier is to show your qualifications and | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
a positive light by highlighting skills and experiences that the a | :40:45. | :40:49. | |
qualifier -- the employer is looking for." You can find an | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
online test on our website designed by employment experts. You can get | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
feedback on job-seeking skills and advice on how to improve your | :40:56. | :41:01. | |
weaknesses. Including a personalised video from Tim | :41:01. | :41:08. | |
Campbell. Take the test, it will help you. And we have an apprentice | :41:08. | :41:16. | |
been developing this weekend. -- an Apprentice scheme. Time is nearly | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
up for our Korea fast track -- trackers. They are wrapping up | :41:20. | :41:26. | |
their time as chief executives. Presentation time. Their next | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
challenge is to develop ways to transform their businesses. Start | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
thinking, how can we make this into an incredible salad bar. What would | :41:35. | :41:41. | |
you change to make this into the defining salad bar? Get some more | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
on there. Cheers. It is already a popular thing. Changing something, | :41:46. | :41:51. | |
it will have to be really popular. I will ask the staff what is | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
popular. What are the top three ingredients? Tortilla chips, | :41:54. | :42:00. | |
coleslaw and lettuce. I will try my best. If it does not work out, it | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
doesn't. That's not how one should think about it. If it doesn't work, | :42:04. | :42:11. | |
that is not good enough. Sacha up must now lead the drive into a new | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
market. You are going to take the business to a new arena, somewhere | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
where we do not currently sell, fashion boutiques. You are going to | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
pitch to them to try and secure the company in their stories. She has | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
to stand up and deliver the pitch, it is her picture. She has not of | :42:29. | :42:36. | |
the team to fall back on. -- Petr Cech. This is scary. How does the | :42:36. | :42:43. | |
Havingdon post fit in with AOL? Kirsty asked to promote to her | :42:43. | :42:49. | |
company's venture through the breast. He she is articulate, a | :42:49. | :42:55. | |
very good communicator. She is a very good presenter. | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
opportunities at the Huffington post are incredible. What was your | :43:01. | :43:06. | |
favourite flavour? Not at one. Chris wants to discover how to | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
bring new customers into his store. What would you do to bring people | :43:11. | :43:15. | |
in? One of the key ways is talking to the press. They listened to what | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
I had to say. I don't know if they were being polite? To young people, | :43:20. | :43:26. | |
in? People who shop in here are perhaps older, Thirties and Forties. | :43:26. | :43:34. | |
Nothing stands out from and makes me want to come in. I have 15 | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
minutes to greater PowerPoint presentation and I have only ever | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
used it once before. -- create a PowerPoint presentation. It is the | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
biggest colour for this winter. you know, it is the biggest collar | :43:48. | :43:55. | |
for this winter. I would be like the colour of that one. -- I really | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
like. Ben is putting the finishing touches to the salad bar. If you | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
come up with a compelling vision, you could see this come to life | :44:03. | :44:10. | |
across 350 restaurants. Are we presenting all seven later? Yes. | :44:10. | :44:14. | |
This is probably the most important thing I have done in my life. It is | :44:14. | :44:21. | |
just going to be me talking. If I get this right, I will get lots | :44:21. | :44:28. | |
more opportunities. I'm not sure if I have met all of you. My name is | :44:28. | :44:33. | |
then. Very nice to meet you. Here is what I'm going to be talking | :44:33. | :44:38. | |
about today. The seven seas, the vision is transporting customers | :44:38. | :44:42. | |
around the world through their taste buds, and in a family | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
atmosphere. I felt proud of him on the one hand, seeing him present. | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
The passion he displayed, and then I was so frustrated because he | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
keeps putting himself down. I'm not going to lie, you are probably | :44:55. | :45:00. | |
thinking that some of the stuff I have presented is crab. Why do you | :45:00. | :45:07. | |
think we think that? This is the first time I have done it. I'm | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
passionate about it and I think it is a good idea and I think it can | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
work. Very often in life, there are no second chances. If you come | :45:15. | :45:17. | |
across as doubtful, self- deprecating, not believing in | :45:17. | :45:27. | |
:45:27. | :45:29. | ||
yourself, as a first impression, Hello. I'm Sasha the replica for | :45:29. | :45:35. | |
Nails Inc today. Sasha is a little wobbly to say the least. I will go | :45:35. | :45:44. | |
through the products her. This is a recommended piece for your boutique. | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
She was too far behind an hour ago and making mistakes on products. I | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
said if he is had known the pitch two or telehours ago, he is would | :45:52. | :45:59. | |
have delivered an amazing pitch. This is a great base, a primer for | :45:59. | :46:06. | |
the nails. Chris is about to reveal how he thinks his management team | :46:06. | :46:12. | |
should go about attracting new customers. Right, hmm, the name, | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
Liberty is luxury, but if I was at home and I saw something that shows | :46:18. | :46:25. | |
prugts that are affordable. I would think that I never knew that, the | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
next time I come here I would have a look it. There are young people | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
walking down the street, they pass here, but that would get them | :46:33. | :46:38. | |
through the door. Today's presentation was confident. He had | :46:38. | :46:46. | |
the ideas, they -- we may take a few on board. I thought of also a | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
Liberty student card. I did all right. You can do anything. It | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
makes you feel that you can do anything. I love the yad. Having a | :46:55. | :47:01. | |
theme to it makes sense. I like the idea of people coming to Pizza Hut, | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
pea specifically to get the salad. I think that you planted really | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
good ideas into our hands. I think we should give you a really good | :47:10. | :47:17. | |
hand of applause. Today, the nerves floored you. Don't forget what you | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
did today as an MD's role. You will not start in business as an MD. She | :47:23. | :47:29. | |
is super disorganised, but he is has a lot of star qualities. I | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
think she's good. Meeting Thea Green was the most amazing thing | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
that could have happened throughout this whole experience. She's a | :47:38. | :47:43. | |
total role model. She is all the sort of things that I strive to be. | :47:43. | :47:53. | |
:47:53. | :47:53. | ||
I don't want to be an MD, I will be an MD. APPLAUSE It feels as if | :47:53. | :48:03. | |
:48:03. | :48:05. | ||
every day you gre in confidence. do. -- it feels as if every day you | :48:05. | :48:12. | |
grow in confidence. I do. Ben, that was amazing. Yes, I felt really | :48:12. | :48:18. | |
good about that. Two things to say, firstly, you come across very well | :48:18. | :48:24. | |
as a Chief Executive. Thank you. 7 Secondly, you are suspiciously thin | :48:24. | :48:30. | |
for the Chief Executive of Pizza Hut? You can't eat many of the | :48:30. | :48:36. | |
stuffed crust pizzas!. I do like them. But you don't eat them! Are | :48:36. | :48:41. | |
you going to roll out his plans? really like the idea that he came | :48:41. | :48:46. | |
up, how to create themes and events around a salad bar to keep it fresh, | :48:46. | :48:52. | |
exciting and to get the whole of Britain to eat more salad, which is | :48:52. | :48:58. | |
what we want them to achieve and I think that his idea was creative. I | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
tonight think that we will take exactly the recipes that he | :49:02. | :49:06. | |
developed, but the overall idea of creating events around a salad bar | :49:06. | :49:12. | |
was brilliant and we are taking that forward. OK. Fabulous. Chris, | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
for you, an innovative idea, the student card, you enjoyed yourself? | :49:16. | :49:20. | |
I thought it was really good. It is a shame that I had never heard of | :49:20. | :49:24. | |
Liberty before. It is an amazing place. You go in there and it is | :49:24. | :49:31. | |
like a dream world. You see random things. How much did they pay you | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
to say that? No, it really is a cool shop. I thought it was a shame | :49:35. | :49:40. | |
that no-one was going in there. Thank you, guys. We have a second | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
show tonight, we will hear more from you later. We will catch up | :49:44. | :49:50. | |
with what has happened to you since you made the films. We are back at | :49:50. | :49:56. | |
10 .3pm. We told you that Greggs are arranging paid placements for | :49:56. | :50:01. | |
some of you who applied via the website. Here is how the interviews | :50:01. | :50:07. | |
went. It is a good lesson on why showing passion can be a good thing. | :50:07. | :50:13. | |
The rolls are prepared in the food it is freshly baked. Freshly made | :50:13. | :50:17. | |
sandwiches. I am scare bad being interviewed. I was making | :50:17. | :50:24. | |
sandwiches to ensure that I can cut them the right way. I've been | :50:24. | :50:29. | |
heating -- eating constantly. I want to work every day, make a | :50:29. | :50:34. | |
living. I want to be a forensic pathologist, basically, that is | :50:34. | :50:42. | |
cutting up dead bodies, but I don't mind cutting up bread as well. We | :50:42. | :50:46. | |
have o presentation like magic balls. It is funny. Ben was the | :50:46. | :50:52. | |
only one who did not wear a suit. He could have smartened up slightly. | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
Greggs has been a part of my life since I can remember, going there. | :50:56. | :51:01. | |
I think that I have the tricks of the trade. I thought it was a gad | :51:01. | :51:07. | |
company to work for, I don't think it will go bust. I have mastered | :51:07. | :51:13. | |
the corn beef quiche. I am enthusiastic. I thought it was the | :51:13. | :51:18. | |
right amount of time for me to show what I can do. I work with | :51:18. | :51:24. | |
customers a lot. Serving, and helping them out, really. Hmm... I | :51:24. | :51:33. | |
can't think of anything else... good at teamwork, customer service | :51:33. | :51:43. | |
:51:43. | :51:44. | ||
and hmm... It has dropped from my head... Oh, dear, what was it? | :51:44. | :51:49. | |
communicating. Yes. On a scale of one to ten, the chances of getting | :51:49. | :51:58. | |
the job are eight... Seven. I won't say I'm big headed and say I have | :51:58. | :52:03. | |
got it, just in case. If I don't get the job, I will try in the air | :52:03. | :52:13. | |
force. APPLAUSE So, mill eata, you have a degree in forensics? That's | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
correct. You have obviously applied for jobs relating to that and not | :52:18. | :52:22. | |
found anything? It is very hard to find a job in forensics, so I | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
thought I would try something else. How long have you been looking? | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
Four to five months. Wilson, you have been looking for a little | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
while, what is the experience like? It's been the worst time of my life. | :52:34. | :52:39. | |
It is horrible. You have nothing to do. You feel worthless and I | :52:39. | :52:45. | |
sometimes thought to myself, if I got run over by a car and died | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
tomorrow, society would benefit from me dying! That is absolutely | :52:50. | :52:54. | |
crazy! But... When you are unemployed, you are a bit of a | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
drain. Not that it is anyone's fault, but that's how you feel | :52:58. | :53:04. | |
sometimes. Well, listen, I'm glad you have come down tonight! Let's | :53:04. | :53:10. | |
catch up with Roisin. You are offering five placements, we know | :53:10. | :53:15. | |
about that. You explained that to us earlier. Tell us who has got the | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
jobs? We are delighted for their great personalities and their | :53:19. | :53:24. | |
abilities to work in team, we are delighted that be have offered | :53:24. | :53:31. | |
Melita, Frank, Irfan in the shops. We have offered Vicki a placement | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
in the shops, but would like to increase that from three months to | :53:36. | :53:40. | |
12 months and Wilson we are tkphriegted that you are joining us | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
in the -- we are delighted that you are joining news the bakery. So | :53:43. | :53:53. | |
:53:53. | :54:04. | ||
well done to all of you. APPLAUSE You know, this not a game show. You | :54:04. | :54:11. | |
have the jobs. Wilson you had made the point very powerfulally. You | :54:12. | :54:18. | |
could not have made it more powerfully. I was so grateful to | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
hear the news. I was a bit speechless, but I have always | :54:22. | :54:28. | |
wanted to work in the food industry. Now I get to work for one of the | :54:28. | :54:31. | |
most successful and socially responsible companies in the food | :54:31. | :54:37. | |
industry. It is a great career. It is a three month start, but it | :54:37. | :54:43. | |
could lead to more. You seem like such a lovely guy. Melita, your | :54:43. | :54:47. | |
thoughts on this? At the moment I'm in shock that I have the job. | :54:47. | :54:53. | |
Really? Yes, my mum was screaming down the phone. Was she? Yes, she | :54:53. | :54:59. | |
was literally in tears that I got the job. And Vicky? Yes, I'm | :54:59. | :55:07. | |
delighted it is 12 months. I didn't know that. So that is good. Yes. | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
Quite good! I'm still in shock. Frank? It is really good it is | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
customers service, that is what I wanted to do. I'm so happy for you. | :55:18. | :55:24. | |
It is nearly 10.00pm, we are almost out of time. Stay with us on BBC | :55:24. | :55:31. | |
Three, where were we will be showing you where this lot ended up. | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
I don't have a place in London, so I will take a bag and live out of | :55:35. | :55:43. | |
that. I want to be able to go maybe not to MD level, but something to | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
that importance. Who do you think that I should be? So, have they got | :55:47. | :55:53. | |
jobs? You have to wait 30 minutes to find out. Thank you to everybody | :55:53. | :55:59. | |
who took part this evening. Sara Cox and Craig James, ladies and | :55:59. | :56:06. | |
gentlemen and James Caan, as well! APPLAUSE We will also be revealing | :56:06. | :56:16. | |
:56:16. | :56:18. | ||
who is getting our last two yob jobs with the High Street chain | :56:18. | :56:25. |