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A couple of nights ago, Katie Hopkins said most Agger -- most

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degrees were Mickey Mouse. He did not like that. Tonight, the

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graduates fightback. It's 9pm and it is the final night of up for

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Welcome, good evening. It is a couple of minutes past nine and

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this is BBC Three's Up For Hire 5. All week, we have been putting the

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world of work under the microscope so you can find out how best to get

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a job and climb the greasy pole. Tonight, we will see what happens

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when Kirsty, Ben, Sacha and Chris become chief executives. All four

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of Britain's biggest companies. James Caan is here to tell us what

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it is like making a fortune and how to make a fortune. Also, we have

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Sarah Cox and Greg James as well. We will be revealing some more of

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our job-hunters getting paid work life here in the studio. Greggs the

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Bakers is doing the hiring. And our big question this evening is,

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instead of waiting for a job to come to you, what is stopping you

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from creating your own? Why not start your own business? Are you

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too frightened? Young people around the world don't have benefits to

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rely on. They have to be self employed to eat, so why can't young

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British people do that? We want to hear from you, and to tell you how

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to get your opinions heard, from the Chris Moyles show, it is Steena.

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Good evening. Tonight, we want to hear your stories. Have you started

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your own company? What was it? Did it work? The great university

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debate is raging from Tuesday's show after Katie Hopkins said that

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loss of degrees are Mickey Mouse. loss of degrees are Mickey Mouse.

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Her words, not mine. Do you agree? Her words, not mine. Do you agree?

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Her words, not mine. Do you agree? Get online and tell us. E-mail us:

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Or go to a Facebook page. Why you're there, join in with our

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online Careers Fair. This week, we have been putting you directly in

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touch with one of Britain's biggest employers. Tonight is your last

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chance to make use of this exclusive hotline. We are people

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from companies like Live Nation and the Co-op waiting to answer your

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the Co-op waiting to answer your questions. That phrase, Mickey

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Mouse degrees, not very popular. Delight that phrase? No! Or when we

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rehearsed it, there was mutiny in the run. To business, literally.

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Kirsty, then, Chris and Sacha, they are at the final stage of their

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careers at fast-forward. They started out as pirates and burger

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flippers on Monday, and tonight, the end is in sight. Four major

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companies allowed them to take the reins for a few days. If you are a

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shareholder in any event, you may want to look away now.

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The four recruits are about to get the ultimate crash course in

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running a business. How why you? am fine. To set up a business, you

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am fine. To set up a business, you have to be fearless. You can do

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research, but there is a definite moment where you have to just take

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the plunge and do it. How are you? Sometimes I wake up in the night

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and I worry about things. It is not always easy. These are high

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pressure jobs. Come and sit down. I have been so lucky to have mentors,

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and I have thrived under their leadership. You must be Chris. The

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end he is the person who is responsible for the direction,

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profitability and a strategy for the business. The buck stops here.

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-- Managing Director. For these four companies with a total

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workforce of 18,000 and a combined turnover of �600 million, the buck

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is about to start somewhere else. For the next three days, you are

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going to be me. Oh. I thought it would be great if he did my job for

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a few days. How do you feel about that? You are going to be the

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managing director. OK. For now on, you are going to be running the

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company. Oh, my gosh. Don't look so company. Oh, my gosh. Don't look so

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terrified. In his first challenge as managing director, Chris will

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have to take charge of how business begins. At the high-end department

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store. 35 quid! Hundreds of hopefuls suppliers are about to

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attempt to convince Liberty to stock their products. I cannot

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believe how many people have come in here. It is a massive deal.

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Today, it will mean convincing Chris. You're going to have to take

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the five that we are going to purchase. We're probably looking at

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�250,000 worth of business. Deep breathing. Their request for a

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proposal has come in. Crikey. while, Kirsty must lead a last

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minute pitch for a major advertising contract. This

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afternoon, we are going to get a cab and you will picture

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presentation. I thought you were going to say fab. The pitch is

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important because the clients are important. I am a perfectionist

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when it comes to presenting. Kirsty has just four hours to put together

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a presentation. I am physically shaking. Chris' buying team has

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drawn up a shortlist for the managing director. But it is not

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assured. -- not that short. I think he will struggle with getting

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information out of these designers today. These are all my own

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drawings. If he does not ask the questions, he will not get the

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pricing right. How much other bags? �60. When they come in and they are

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actual people, you can tell that some of them are really nervous. It

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is a bit like, if I choose them, they could end up minted, so it is

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a big choice. We're going to have to leave in half an hour. I would

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love to see what you're going to present. I don't think I have got

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anything to show you. Really? This is coming down to delegation. She

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could have been directing how the presentation looked and appeared,

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and that would have given her more time to pull things together.

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Genuinely, it is not enough time to get somebody to do this. I'm going

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to make an idiot of myself. It is decision time for Chris. If he

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makes the wrong choice, there is an immediate cost to the country -- to

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the company because we will have to get rid of things, but the real

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cost to the company is opportunity. These RDSs, this is a maybes. These,

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no. I think the apron is to Nish. It is a great man's back. -- too

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much. I thought this was a winner. I think the decisions have been

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considered. It is a partial success. The only thing, work on your

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presentation. Everybody needs a little more polish. OK.

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questions you need to ask? I would quite like to work on what I'm

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going to say. Confidence and body language. When you are pitching

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extremely -- it is extremely important, because there is nothing

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worse than being presented by somebody who is quaking in their

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boots. This is my first presentation. 70% of Our users have

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been on holiday in the last four months. And in interactivity... I

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am annoyed that I have given the impression I cannot handle things.

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Nice to meet you. I thought it was going to be a nightmare, but it

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wasn't. You had it far more together than you let me believe

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and I think you lead your self- belief. I to volley opportunities,

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this one most clearly speaks to me as the job I would love to do. --

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out of all the opportunities. It was difficult not to feel the

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weight of being the head of a well in Europe.

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APPLAUSE That is exciting. Big jobs. Chris, you had not heard

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of Liberty? I had not, but I had seen the that -- I have seen the

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building. And you a charge of �250,000 worth of business? Yet,

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that is serious. Kirsty, you were at a awhile. You were worried about

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making an idiot of yourself. My dad was worried about my language.

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did you enjoy it? Cage was an absolutely amazing woman. She has

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got to where she is through lots of hard work and working her way up,

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so it was a massive ask for me. It was a crash course, brilliant but

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scary. So we're going to see two more films, second day is in big

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jobs, and this is your final day. Four if you have been unemployed

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for a while. Is this exercise useful? So useful. I have learned

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so much. It has been a roller- coaster but hopefully I have got to

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the top of it and I will stay there for a while. Let us talk to Kate

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from their wealth. What was your initial thoughts about Kirsty?

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initial thoughts about Kirsty? did not get off to the best starter,

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initially. I think she was really nervous. Of what you saw there, I

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tried to coax her confidence out. Once she is on a roll, she is

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unbelievable. You just needed to find the confidence. First

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impressions, they were not great, because she was quite stand-offish,

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just with nerves. Once she found her feet, she was off. You can be

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quite stand-offish? It was a really unusual set of circumstances. I am

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not on television all the time. In real night -- in real life, I am

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pretty funny. But that was real life, wasn't it? With cameras. A

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quick thought on how Chris got on. I think he was a little bit of a

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fish out of water, when he started. But he was definitely thrown into

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the deep end. What I admire his that he took some time and got

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himself together. He came back out onto the floor, and he made some

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really good observations. He got to work. The one thing that he did not

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do is quite. -- quit. The films later tonight are terrific so we

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will see how you got on on the second and third day. James Caan,,

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set up here for a moment. One person that knows what it is like

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person that knows what it is like to be at the very top of an

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international firm. James Caan, good evening. First of all, you are

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former Dragon and a multi- millionaire. Well done. Thank you.

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Didn't he do well?! I thought I would begin by asking you what you

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made of the film. Firstly, I think you should all be congratulated.

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Anybody who has been put in a situation that you have never

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situation -- never experienced before, going from been unemployed

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to may be the most senior job in the country, running a large

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department store, even if that was me as a Dragon, I think I would

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have been as nervous tissue. I like watching your reaction when you

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find out what you were taking on. It was fantastic. Let us talk about

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how you were getting started. If some people cannot find a job, as

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so many are struggling to, should they start their own company? You

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started with a nifty little ruse involving getting an office on Pall

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Mall. For me, one of the biggest lessons was learning that when

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you're young, you're fearless because you have nothing to lose.

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When you get older, you get responsibilities, marriage,

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children, and you think you cannot do it. When you're young, you have

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that energy and drive to say, I can do it. That is what happened to me.

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I thought, what have I got to lose? If it does not work out, I can

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always get another job. What did you do? Essentially a wanted to set

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up a headhunting firm and they realise that location was important

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but it did not have any money. I went to Pall Mall and found this

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fantastic office but it was not really in office, it was a broom

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cupboard, but it had an address and it was Pall Mall. Literally, I

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would sit there on my own in this tiny office and when people were

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coming to see me, I would tell them, sorry, we're so busy all the

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meeting rooms are chock-a-block, can we go around the corner to the

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Ritz and maybe we could have a chat there? I would not buy tea or

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coffee, because it was really busy, and we would just sit in the lounge

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area. A lot of it was just confidence and energy. The lesson

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of that, allied to your clients. Did I say that? -- like to. We're

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moving on to the debate. What advice would you have to young

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people out there, thinking of starting up their own business. If

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we define finance, how easy or difficult is it? It is clearly very

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difficult. If you can find 50 reasons why you should or could not

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do it, but you know, some of the greatest businesses on the planet

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were started by people who had nothing. But what they did as they

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had belief in themselves, confidence, and the desire. The

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greatest way to start at a business is going to the bank or family and

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friends, because clearly, when you start off, -- start off, you will

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not get the money from a bank. It is not always about money, it is

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Great. Not everyone can get money from family and friends, but I see

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your point. James, the master of his own destiny by setting up his

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own business. With nearly 1 million young people out of work, they are

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the figures that came out last week. If you can't find a job, is it time

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to create your own? Let's go to the audience. Let's start by meeting

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Jamal Edwards. Hello, Jamaal. Good evening, tell us your story. What

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age did you start your business? was about 15. Tell us about the

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business? It is a broadcast, freestyle, a whole load of acts.

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How did you get it started? My main thing was back in the day, my

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friends, artists were not getting to main stream like they are today.

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Like BBC, ITV. I wanted to create a platform for them to go on and

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spread their music. That was my passion to get it out to millions

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of people. Soy thought I would start off something. From then it

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snowballed. James was talking about the bank of family and friends, you

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didn't have that? No. I got a camera for Christmas. I started off

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filming foxs in the back garden. I thought I was like Steve Owen.

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don't want to become him! Then I started to go tonne the music. We

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went on the internet and got thousands of hits. Simon? A lot of

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graduates just expect a job. Why not set up yourself. Like James has

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said, there is a lot of help out there. You can't expect for a job

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to fall on you. What do you have to lose. Just do it. I have done it

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myself. What did you do? I have an online music festival website. It a

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is all live music. Also I'm helping other people get into journalism

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and music as well. So giving back to other people. Put your hand up,

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who is unemployed here, who has been looking for are a while? The

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gentleman there, why haven't you done it? I wanted to comment on the

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statement about graduates expecting jobs to fall into your lap. That is

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not what my friends feel like. We go to school to educate ourselves

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and move forward. We are still trying to sort out what it is that

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we want, but by no means do we feel entitled, that when we graduate

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that something is going to come up to us. I spend my days looking for

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work. Why not set up your own business? There is nothing that has

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jumped out in my mind for things that I want to do. I have tried to

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set myself up to bringing my abilities to what I have

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established, but I don't think that is a reason for me to be seen as

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expecting a job to fall into lie lap. Frazier? You started your

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business when you were two years old or something? How old were you?

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I was 14 years old. My grandmother taught me how to make jam. I

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started selling it to neighbours, to friends. Now we have SuperJam on

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the markets on the shelves. How old are you now? I am 2. We sell about

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1 million jams of -- jars of jam a year. I would like to be pleased

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for you, but in some ways your success makes me feel sick! Tina,

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what are they saying online? Let's have a look to see what people are

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saying. Karen says she would love to work for herself, but as a

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single parent it is too big a risk in this economic client. So it is

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the right time. Oliver says he started a business with help from

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his friends and family, he was 16. Now, his business is worth �90,000.

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That is impressive. Samantha says that lots of young people lack the

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experience and the education to start up business. I don't think

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that is -- I think that it is that schools don't provide enough

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information on that in schools. Chris, you started working young?

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was lucky in that I know that I wanted to do radio. I started to do

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hospital radio at school. I went to university and did student radio. I

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knew I wanted to do it. Experience was the key. That was it, really.

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Yeah, I knew that I wanted to do it. And Sara Cox is behind you. We are

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going to chat to you later. Hello. Becky you set up an unusual

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business, what is your story? started up my business, Astley

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Horses. I started it at school. There is no reason why you can't

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start it at school. If you have the idea go for it and make it success

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of it. Anything? Well? Some will be short-lived if they are rubbish.

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What is yours? Utterly Horses. We sell model horses. And we have

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Utterly Saurus, which sells model dino saurs, but you need unique all

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the way. The gentleman over there? I disagree with what she was saying.

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I think that what James said is bang on the money. It is all about

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the individual. Not everyone can start up their own business as they

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don't have the right attitude and passion. Passion is key to the

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business. I agree with what James said. It is about the individual.

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Yes, anyone can attempt to do it, but some will not succeed. It is

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easier to find a career if you are really passionate about something

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to turn it into. But let's go to Tina. Tina? Lots more comments are

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coming in. Phil says: I don't think it is a lack of Earlal spirit that

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stops young peel, but the fear of wanting to take on more debt.

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Craig: After I lost my job in 2007, I started my business in the front

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room with a computer and telephone. Now I have a sales team, a

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marketing team and we are about to move into bigger offices. Domino's

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Pizza, there are companies getting in touch. Some franchisers started

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off young. By working in the business first it can be done.

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Thank you. Fascinating stories there. So, successful entrepreneurs

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will often tell you that being their own boss is their dream job.

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We asked some of my famous, close personal friends what their dream

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job would be. What would Mai Mai dream job? I would like to work in

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a cake shop. It would be something to do with space. A marine

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biologist. A seriously entrepreneur! That is a dream that

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will not happen. I would be the head of making little icing figures.

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Qaun tum physics. Travel photography. A business negotiation

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business. Ice-cream and panda bears! Maybe a florist. I like

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flowers. You drive around in a truck, with a panda bear on the

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back selling ice-cream. Combining pandas, polar bears and ice-cream.

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Hmm, a hot day, what could be better?! APPLAUSE. Let's welcome to

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the studio, another famous fashion Radio 1's Sara Cox is here. Hello!

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Hello, Sara. Can I just check... Let me do this intro... I wondered

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if there is a real Mickey Mouse degree. It sounds fun. You can

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probably do a degree in Disney. It might be even valuable. Don't ooze

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that phrase, they get angry! It could turn nasty. You have had

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glamorous job, model, TV presenter, DJ, but it was not always like that.

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You started off working in a terrible dead-end job that most

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people would point-black refuse to do, I'm talking about the girlie --

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Girlie Show! You know what, I'm from a background where you wanted

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to work as soon as possible, basically, my mum had not. She

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worked hard, so I had to earn my own cash. I did a lot of bar work,

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before I was old enough to work behind a bar I collected glasses

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when I was 16. Pwh I -- when I was 16 I worked on the door of a

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nightclub in Bolton. I would sit on the door and look at lists. It was

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at the bottom of the stairs where the revellers would land when the

:24:32.:24:36.

bouncers had kicked them out on the way out. So not glamorous.

:24:36.:24:42.

sounds tern takening! It was. I worked in a sports shop. I worked

:24:42.:24:46.

in the female division of the sportswear. Where did the drive

:24:46.:24:51.

come from? The money really. Money was a means of escape. Freedom.

:24:51.:24:58.

Being able to afford my own things. Were those jobs were useful, were

:24:58.:25:02.

they? Were they useful when finding your way into media and television?

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Yes, I think so. When you have worked for �2.50 an hour you

:25:08.:25:11.

appreciate when you manage to make decent money, definitely, but it is

:25:11.:25:13.

interesting that the whole thing about starting up your own business,

:25:13.:25:18.

a lot of people want the comfort and the security of being employed,

:25:18.:25:25.

not being responsible for a business, leaving work at 6pment on

:25:25.:25:29.

a -- 6.00pm on Friday, and not thinking about work until Monday

:25:29.:25:35.

morning. A lot of people are wired like that And also, it can involve

:25:35.:25:39.

putting in money. If you haven't got a job, you may not have the

:25:39.:25:43.

business. My family and friends would have closed their doors on me.

:25:43.:25:50.

Really? No, not that bad. I mean I still get on with them alright. I

:25:50.:25:58.

mean I've left a lot of them behind as I'm famous! Not really, hi, mum!

:25:58.:26:02.

Now, through the week on Up For Hire Live, we have part nerd with

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some of the country's leading employers to get some of you out of

:26:06.:26:13.

the jobless line and into paid work. Already Virgin Media, Starbucks,

:26:14.:26:23.

Scottish Power, they have hired 23 people. Tonight it is the turn of

:26:23.:26:33.
:26:33.:26:33.

Greggs the Bakers. We have Roisin. Sara is a big Greggs fan! I would

:26:33.:26:37.

spend my money at Greggs every morning on Saturday, so, thank you.

:26:37.:26:44.

I am a big fan of the cheese and onion pasty. That is good. So, tell

:26:44.:26:51.

us about the jobs you are offering? We have four jobs on the shops with

:26:51.:26:56.

the focus on delivers fantastic customer service, making fresh

:26:56.:27:01.

deliveries every day and a job in the bakery where the team makes

:27:02.:27:06.

delicious cakes, breads and rolls. I love the way you explain that, it

:27:06.:27:11.

is very much on message. These are good opportunities, are they three-

:27:11.:27:16.

month positions? They are. They are potentially the beginning of the

:27:16.:27:20.

career? We have spoken to the candidates about this leading to a

:27:21.:27:23.

career within Greggs if they are interested in doing well and

:27:23.:27:28.

working with us. How many positions are you offering? Five. That is a

:27:28.:27:33.

lot. A lot of people have applied, you are offering five. You saw many

:27:33.:27:39.

more. You have seen the positions applied on the website. What was

:27:39.:27:44.

the standard of the applications? What were the mistakes? A few

:27:44.:27:48.

people did not complete the form. Where they had the opportunity to

:27:48.:27:51.

sell themselves, they missed that. My advice is to use that

:27:51.:27:55.

opportunity. Sell yourself on paper, get your personality over in the

:27:55.:28:01.

best way you can. How? The words you yues. Demonstrate that you know

:28:01.:28:06.

about the business. Demonstrate that you are passionate, you have a

:28:06.:28:11.

can-do attitude, that you are willing to get stuck in and do what

:28:11.:28:21.
:28:21.:28:22.

is needed. Thank you very much, Roisin! APPLAUSE Thank you. Right

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it is 9.29 on BBC Three's Up For Hire Live. This noisy area behind

:28:31.:28:37.

me is the workshop where the studio job hunters are getting one-to-one

:28:37.:28:45.

advice. Tonight, the mentors are from Rock Star enterprise and Crag

:28:45.:28:52.

Rats. Well, from future star to nearly wrapped up, it is back to

:28:52.:28:57.

see how the four fast h trackers, the stars of the show -- the fast-

:28:57.:29:02.

trackers are getting on. Everyone knows that success is really about

:29:02.:29:07.

one thing, getting the right people. Your first job of the day is

:29:07.:29:11.

interviewing managers from a London support role. Now, for the first

:29:11.:29:16.

time, Sasha is to conduct the round of a selection process. These are

:29:16.:29:21.

the people that have applied for the role. I think it dawned on her

:29:21.:29:26.

most what she was given the CVs for the role she is doing. She realised

:29:26.:29:33.

that she is on her own. She has to do it. Is there, once I've done the

:29:33.:29:38.

interview, how long should it take? She didn't ask me enough relevant

:29:38.:29:42.

questions. She didn't ask me what to be asking the candidates. I've

:29:42.:29:49.

been interviewed many a time. I know how they go well and how they

:29:49.:29:56.

go wrong. I'm Sasha, nice to meet you. Come this way. I'm nearbyous

:29:56.:30:02.

she will struggle. As the head of AOL Europe, Kirsty has been invited

:30:02.:30:06.

to an exclusive networking event for business leaders. We have three

:30:06.:30:10.

people that would love to talk to you. Don't limit the conversations

:30:10.:30:16.

to awl the three, there are many people that are really interesting.

:30:16.:30:23.

Do you imagine, I suppose, contents then as well as arts...? She is

:30:23.:30:28.

asking great questions, but almost bordering on an investigative

:30:28.:30:35.

journalist. Maybe she needs to keep it lighter. Do you have features?

:30:35.:30:45.
:30:45.:30:50.

She is getting stuck. I think that she needs to work the room.

:30:50.:30:55.

Nick Hines. She didn't ask for a card, nor give her card, nor ask me

:30:55.:31:05.
:31:05.:31:06.

to contact her. That is a big no, She got the name of the brand wrong,

:31:06.:31:11.

which might drive me nuts. She did not ask any financial questions, so

:31:11.:31:18.

it went very personal very quickly. What colour is that? Beautiful.

:31:18.:31:21.

Delight to take care of yourself? Is that something you pride

:31:21.:31:27.

yourself on? -- do you like. lost professionalism quite early on.

:31:27.:31:31.

She actually said "These questions are probably not very good, but

:31:31.:31:37.

Ugo". These are not the greatest questions but I will ask anyway.

:31:37.:31:40.

She was going to be asked questions that the interviewer had told her

:31:40.:31:44.

was bad. I have said to make the second interview were more

:31:44.:31:49.

financial, ask the interview me what drives profits. Profit, how do

:31:49.:31:59.
:31:59.:32:01.

you deal with making profit and a lack of it? Shittu: The advice the

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second time around. She still comes across too nervous. -- she

:32:07.:32:12.

definitely took my advice. Kirsty has begun to hand out business

:32:12.:32:19.

cards. And make an impression. We're doing our launch today, and

:32:19.:32:23.

we have rebranded it. It already existed but now we are... I thought

:32:23.:32:29.

she was very bright and interesting. She gave me some insight that I did

:32:29.:32:35.

not know about. Quite impressed. think I just made a deal. Generally.

:32:35.:32:42.

Decision time for Sacha. I think they both deserve the role. It is

:32:42.:32:47.

not just a job working behind the bar, it really does mean something

:32:47.:32:57.
:32:57.:32:57.

to them. I think I'm going to go with Jeanette. No, Lauren. You both

:32:57.:33:00.

have different abilities and you are both perfect for the role in

:33:00.:33:06.

different ways. You have given me a lot to think about. Janette, I

:33:06.:33:13.

would like to offer you the role and the reason why is because I

:33:13.:33:19.

feel that you are ready for the next step. I feel like a right knee

:33:19.:33:26.

knee. That was awful. Lauren really wanted it. -- I feel really mean.

:33:27.:33:31.

The way she looked at me was the way that I look at someone one want

:33:31.:33:35.

a job. You could tell she wanted it. I have not done anything like this

:33:35.:33:42.

before and I do not want to do it again.

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A's -- APPLAUSE Sacha, good job overall but I'm not sure if asking

:33:51.:33:54.

someone about make-up is necessarily the best interview

:33:54.:33:57.

approach. Probably not the best but I was

:33:57.:34:00.

trying to get to an approach where if she took care of herself, she

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might take care of the customer as well. Don't get me started. It was

:34:05.:34:09.

a mess and it went with the wrong. I felt guilty because I was not

:34:09.:34:12.

doing to us again, it was their lives and I could see they wanted

:34:12.:34:18.

it. It didn't all go wrong. Good evening. Did it all go wrong?

:34:18.:34:20.

evening. Did it all go wrong? at all. I thought she did really

:34:20.:34:25.

well. That was your first day with us, and that was the first task. As

:34:25.:34:28.

the footage goes on, you will see that she did really well. She has

:34:28.:34:30.

that she did really well. She has some great raw talent. Was it worth

:34:30.:34:37.

it? It was the most amazing experience. You're my role model

:34:37.:34:42.

now. Literally, spending time with her was the best thing I could have

:34:42.:34:46.

ever done. We had a good time. had a great time and I learned so

:34:46.:34:50.

much about myself. I learned to be confident, which is something you

:34:50.:34:57.

taught me. Thank you. Any thoughts on that particular film? It is

:34:57.:35:03.

difficult. That is really tough. For thrown into a big job. Yeah. Do

:35:03.:35:10.

you want to do that in future? It was hard, because it did not row

:35:10.:35:14.

-- did not know the role. So it was like picking someone for something

:35:15.:35:19.

you do not understand. I would love to have my own business, but one

:35:19.:35:25.

thing I have learned, by watching the whole film is that it is hard

:35:25.:35:32.

work. Limos and cigars, I did not see any of that once! She was doing

:35:32.:35:37.

her own thing, being down to earth, but it is hard. All the work and

:35:37.:35:42.

none of the fund. None of the fun, but it was amazing. We look forward

:35:42.:35:47.

to the last films later. On Tuesday night, Katie Hopkins talked about

:35:47.:35:56.

what she called Mickey Mouse degrees. Mickey Mouse degrees. She

:35:56.:36:01.

said that all former polytechnics should be burned to the ground. I

:36:01.:36:05.

did not expect that to go down well. You were furious. Some few have

:36:05.:36:13.

come down to the studio tonight to express your anger. You have a

:36:13.:36:16.

serious point to make about this. You were watching on Tuesday. That

:36:16.:36:21.

is why you have come down. That is why. What struck you about what

:36:21.:36:25.

Katie Hopkins was saying? Basically, she was saying that she thinks that

:36:25.:36:29.

you should scrap things like media. I am very passionate about media

:36:29.:36:34.

because I studied it at college. Because she has said that, I do not

:36:34.:36:37.

know whether I should go to you need to go and do media, or should

:36:37.:36:42.

I change my career path, --? You're saying you are thinking of not

:36:42.:36:47.

doing a degree? She said it was a Mickey Mouse degree. What does she

:36:47.:36:51.

mean by that? I think that is prejudice. Some of them are clearly

:36:51.:36:54.

very good. Here is a guide, listened to what she says and do

:36:54.:36:59.

the opposite. It is an important point, if it had that impact. There

:36:59.:37:05.

was a feeling that that show was negative against agrees. We have

:37:05.:37:08.

some people here putting the other side of that story. Simon, what did

:37:08.:37:13.

you want to say? To be honest, I was absolutely a rage that she

:37:13.:37:17.

could say that about degrees. What gives her the right? Who does she

:37:17.:37:27.
:37:27.:37:30.

think she is? Who is she? A's -- APPLAUSE Kirsty, you have got a

:37:30.:37:35.

degree in journalism. I have. One thing that has not, is

:37:35.:37:40.

the fact that the last government's policies was to get 50% of young

:37:40.:37:45.

people to go to university. Lots of people raise their aspirations, and

:37:45.:37:49.

it does not seem to have been a plan of what we were going to do

:37:49.:37:54.

next. Obviously, we are lazy and idiots, but we bought the green --

:37:54.:37:58.

reebok the Dream. We were promised jet packs. Do you regret doing that

:37:58.:38:03.

agree? I want to be Prime Minister in 30 years' time and I think that

:38:03.:38:09.

I could be. In no small part, that is down to the fact that I went to

:38:09.:38:14.

university. If only there is a -- if only there was a prime

:38:14.:38:18.

ministerial decree. In fact, the rays, BP at Oxford. I did an

:38:18.:38:22.

English degree and if I did not do that, I would not be here now. The

:38:22.:38:29.

experience I got from that, I learned so much and I grew so much.

:38:29.:38:35.

I learned the skills that I use. Even though I might not use my

:38:35.:38:39.

degree in the future, the people I have met, it was so important. You

:38:39.:38:43.

cannot put enough emphasis on that. That is the point that Richard Reed

:38:43.:38:46.

made the other night. Catherine Kello, you were watching the show

:38:46.:38:56.

this week and you want to make a point. I work for a company which

:38:56.:39:01.

provides university employer guides, and research into the graduate

:39:01.:39:04.

market. Going to university, I think it is important and it is a

:39:04.:39:08.

positive thing, but only if people go with the mindset of a career,

:39:08.:39:14.

and keep that focus. They should go to universities with the employers

:39:14.:39:22.

are and where they are targeting. Why did you shout, rubbish?

:39:22.:39:25.

studied English literature and I have not gone into a career about

:39:25.:39:34.

English, but the two guys who are the partners in my business, I met

:39:34.:39:40.

them both at university. Tom, and a tinge to dash through the

:39:40.:39:43.

entrepreneurial staff at the University and James Ward with him

:39:43.:39:46.

on a university project. They are younger than us but I would not

:39:46.:39:50.

have my company if I had not been a university. We could do more on

:39:50.:39:54.

this, I'm sorry we have run at a time. You have some messages coming

:39:54.:40:02.

in. Lot of companies are online. -- lots of companies are online.

:40:02.:40:06.

Companies like Thistle Hotels and Domino's Pizza. Here is what they

:40:06.:40:13.

have been hiding out. -- finding out. "Career adviser told me to

:40:13.:40:16.

take my degree of my CV were applying for non-graduate jobs.

:40:16.:40:21.

Could it be true?" Live Nation have responded: "We wouldn't recommend

:40:21.:40:26.

anything but 100% truth on your CV. Perhaps a cover letter detailing

:40:26.:40:29.

why you would be engaged in the role and how support in your career

:40:29.:40:34.

would help overcome the over- qualified issue." The suggest not

:40:34.:40:37.

worrying too much about coming across as over-qualified. "One

:40:37.:40:41.

great way to overcome the barrier is to show your qualifications and

:40:41.:40:45.

a positive light by highlighting skills and experiences that the a

:40:45.:40:49.

qualifier -- the employer is looking for." You can find an

:40:49.:40:54.

online test on our website designed by employment experts. You can get

:40:54.:40:56.

feedback on job-seeking skills and advice on how to improve your

:40:56.:41:01.

weaknesses. Including a personalised video from Tim

:41:01.:41:08.

Campbell. Take the test, it will help you. And we have an apprentice

:41:08.:41:16.

been developing this weekend. -- an Apprentice scheme. Time is nearly

:41:16.:41:20.

up for our Korea fast track -- trackers. They are wrapping up

:41:20.:41:26.

their time as chief executives. Presentation time. Their next

:41:26.:41:30.

challenge is to develop ways to transform their businesses. Start

:41:30.:41:34.

thinking, how can we make this into an incredible salad bar. What would

:41:35.:41:41.

you change to make this into the defining salad bar? Get some more

:41:41.:41:46.

on there. Cheers. It is already a popular thing. Changing something,

:41:46.:41:51.

it will have to be really popular. I will ask the staff what is

:41:51.:41:54.

popular. What are the top three ingredients? Tortilla chips,

:41:54.:42:00.

coleslaw and lettuce. I will try my best. If it does not work out, it

:42:00.:42:04.

doesn't. That's not how one should think about it. If it doesn't work,

:42:04.:42:11.

that is not good enough. Sacha up must now lead the drive into a new

:42:11.:42:16.

market. You are going to take the business to a new arena, somewhere

:42:16.:42:20.

where we do not currently sell, fashion boutiques. You are going to

:42:20.:42:25.

pitch to them to try and secure the company in their stories. She has

:42:25.:42:29.

to stand up and deliver the pitch, it is her picture. She has not of

:42:29.:42:36.

the team to fall back on. -- Petr Cech. This is scary. How does the

:42:36.:42:43.

Havingdon post fit in with AOL? Kirsty asked to promote to her

:42:43.:42:49.

company's venture through the breast. He she is articulate, a

:42:49.:42:55.

very good communicator. She is a very good presenter.

:42:55.:43:01.

opportunities at the Huffington post are incredible. What was your

:43:01.:43:06.

favourite flavour? Not at one. Chris wants to discover how to

:43:06.:43:11.

bring new customers into his store. What would you do to bring people

:43:11.:43:15.

in? One of the key ways is talking to the press. They listened to what

:43:15.:43:20.

I had to say. I don't know if they were being polite? To young people,

:43:20.:43:26.

in? People who shop in here are perhaps older, Thirties and Forties.

:43:26.:43:34.

Nothing stands out from and makes me want to come in. I have 15

:43:34.:43:37.

minutes to greater PowerPoint presentation and I have only ever

:43:37.:43:43.

used it once before. -- create a PowerPoint presentation. It is the

:43:43.:43:48.

biggest colour for this winter. you know, it is the biggest collar

:43:48.:43:55.

for this winter. I would be like the colour of that one. -- I really

:43:55.:43:59.

like. Ben is putting the finishing touches to the salad bar. If you

:43:59.:44:03.

come up with a compelling vision, you could see this come to life

:44:03.:44:10.

across 350 restaurants. Are we presenting all seven later? Yes.

:44:10.:44:14.

This is probably the most important thing I have done in my life. It is

:44:14.:44:21.

just going to be me talking. If I get this right, I will get lots

:44:21.:44:28.

more opportunities. I'm not sure if I have met all of you. My name is

:44:28.:44:33.

then. Very nice to meet you. Here is what I'm going to be talking

:44:33.:44:38.

about today. The seven seas, the vision is transporting customers

:44:38.:44:42.

around the world through their taste buds, and in a family

:44:42.:44:47.

atmosphere. I felt proud of him on the one hand, seeing him present.

:44:47.:44:51.

The passion he displayed, and then I was so frustrated because he

:44:51.:44:55.

keeps putting himself down. I'm not going to lie, you are probably

:44:55.:45:00.

thinking that some of the stuff I have presented is crab. Why do you

:45:00.:45:07.

think we think that? This is the first time I have done it. I'm

:45:07.:45:10.

passionate about it and I think it is a good idea and I think it can

:45:10.:45:15.

work. Very often in life, there are no second chances. If you come

:45:15.:45:17.

across as doubtful, self- deprecating, not believing in

:45:17.:45:27.
:45:27.:45:29.

yourself, as a first impression, Hello. I'm Sasha the replica for

:45:29.:45:35.

Nails Inc today. Sasha is a little wobbly to say the least. I will go

:45:35.:45:44.

through the products her. This is a recommended piece for your boutique.

:45:44.:45:48.

She was too far behind an hour ago and making mistakes on products. I

:45:48.:45:52.

said if he is had known the pitch two or telehours ago, he is would

:45:52.:45:59.

have delivered an amazing pitch. This is a great base, a primer for

:45:59.:46:06.

the nails. Chris is about to reveal how he thinks his management team

:46:06.:46:12.

should go about attracting new customers. Right, hmm, the name,

:46:12.:46:18.

Liberty is luxury, but if I was at home and I saw something that shows

:46:18.:46:25.

prugts that are affordable. I would think that I never knew that, the

:46:25.:46:29.

next time I come here I would have a look it. There are young people

:46:29.:46:33.

walking down the street, they pass here, but that would get them

:46:33.:46:38.

through the door. Today's presentation was confident. He had

:46:38.:46:46.

the ideas, they -- we may take a few on board. I thought of also a

:46:46.:46:51.

Liberty student card. I did all right. You can do anything. It

:46:51.:46:55.

makes you feel that you can do anything. I love the yad. Having a

:46:55.:47:01.

theme to it makes sense. I like the idea of people coming to Pizza Hut,

:47:01.:47:05.

pea specifically to get the salad. I think that you planted really

:47:05.:47:10.

good ideas into our hands. I think we should give you a really good

:47:10.:47:17.

hand of applause. Today, the nerves floored you. Don't forget what you

:47:17.:47:23.

did today as an MD's role. You will not start in business as an MD. She

:47:23.:47:29.

is super disorganised, but he is has a lot of star qualities. I

:47:29.:47:35.

think she's good. Meeting Thea Green was the most amazing thing

:47:35.:47:38.

that could have happened throughout this whole experience. She's a

:47:38.:47:43.

total role model. She is all the sort of things that I strive to be.

:47:43.:47:53.
:47:53.:47:53.

I don't want to be an MD, I will be an MD. APPLAUSE It feels as if

:47:53.:48:03.
:48:03.:48:05.

every day you gre in confidence. do. -- it feels as if every day you

:48:05.:48:12.

grow in confidence. I do. Ben, that was amazing. Yes, I felt really

:48:12.:48:18.

good about that. Two things to say, firstly, you come across very well

:48:18.:48:24.

as a Chief Executive. Thank you. 7 Secondly, you are suspiciously thin

:48:24.:48:30.

for the Chief Executive of Pizza Hut? You can't eat many of the

:48:30.:48:36.

stuffed crust pizzas!. I do like them. But you don't eat them! Are

:48:36.:48:41.

you going to roll out his plans? really like the idea that he came

:48:41.:48:46.

up, how to create themes and events around a salad bar to keep it fresh,

:48:46.:48:52.

exciting and to get the whole of Britain to eat more salad, which is

:48:52.:48:58.

what we want them to achieve and I think that his idea was creative. I

:48:58.:49:02.

tonight think that we will take exactly the recipes that he

:49:02.:49:06.

developed, but the overall idea of creating events around a salad bar

:49:06.:49:12.

was brilliant and we are taking that forward. OK. Fabulous. Chris,

:49:12.:49:16.

for you, an innovative idea, the student card, you enjoyed yourself?

:49:16.:49:20.

I thought it was really good. It is a shame that I had never heard of

:49:20.:49:24.

Liberty before. It is an amazing place. You go in there and it is

:49:24.:49:31.

like a dream world. You see random things. How much did they pay you

:49:31.:49:35.

to say that? No, it really is a cool shop. I thought it was a shame

:49:35.:49:40.

that no-one was going in there. Thank you, guys. We have a second

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show tonight, we will hear more from you later. We will catch up

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with what has happened to you since you made the films. We are back at

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10 .3pm. We told you that Greggs are arranging paid placements for

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some of you who applied via the website. Here is how the interviews

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went. It is a good lesson on why showing passion can be a good thing.

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The rolls are prepared in the food it is freshly baked. Freshly made

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sandwiches. I am scare bad being interviewed. I was making

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sandwiches to ensure that I can cut them the right way. I've been

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heating -- eating constantly. I want to work every day, make a

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living. I want to be a forensic pathologist, basically, that is

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cutting up dead bodies, but I don't mind cutting up bread as well. We

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have o presentation like magic balls. It is funny. Ben was the

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only one who did not wear a suit. He could have smartened up slightly.

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Greggs has been a part of my life since I can remember, going there.

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I think that I have the tricks of the trade. I thought it was a gad

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company to work for, I don't think it will go bust. I have mastered

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the corn beef quiche. I am enthusiastic. I thought it was the

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right amount of time for me to show what I can do. I work with

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customers a lot. Serving, and helping them out, really. Hmm... I

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can't think of anything else... good at teamwork, customer service

:51:33.:51:43.
:51:43.:51:44.

and hmm... It has dropped from my head... Oh, dear, what was it?

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communicating. Yes. On a scale of one to ten, the chances of getting

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the job are eight... Seven. I won't say I'm big headed and say I have

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got it, just in case. If I don't get the job, I will try in the air

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force. APPLAUSE So, mill eata, you have a degree in forensics? That's

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correct. You have obviously applied for jobs relating to that and not

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found anything? It is very hard to find a job in forensics, so I

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thought I would try something else. How long have you been looking?

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Four to five months. Wilson, you have been looking for a little

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while, what is the experience like? It's been the worst time of my life.

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It is horrible. You have nothing to do. You feel worthless and I

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sometimes thought to myself, if I got run over by a car and died

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tomorrow, society would benefit from me dying! That is absolutely

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crazy! But... When you are unemployed, you are a bit of a

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drain. Not that it is anyone's fault, but that's how you feel

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sometimes. Well, listen, I'm glad you have come down tonight! Let's

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catch up with Roisin. You are offering five placements, we know

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about that. You explained that to us earlier. Tell us who has got the

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jobs? We are delighted for their great personalities and their

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abilities to work in team, we are delighted that be have offered

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Melita, Frank, Irfan in the shops. We have offered Vicki a placement

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in the shops, but would like to increase that from three months to

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12 months and Wilson we are tkphriegted that you are joining us

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in the -- we are delighted that you are joining news the bakery. So

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:53:53.:54:04.

well done to all of you. APPLAUSE You know, this not a game show. You

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have the jobs. Wilson you had made the point very powerfulally. You

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could not have made it more powerfully. I was so grateful to

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hear the news. I was a bit speechless, but I have always

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wanted to work in the food industry. Now I get to work for one of the

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most successful and socially responsible companies in the food

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industry. It is a great career. It is a three month start, but it

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could lead to more. You seem like such a lovely guy. Melita, your

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thoughts on this? At the moment I'm in shock that I have the job.

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Really? Yes, my mum was screaming down the phone. Was she? Yes, she

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was literally in tears that I got the job. And Vicky? Yes, I'm

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delighted it is 12 months. I didn't know that. So that is good. Yes.

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Quite good! I'm still in shock. Frank? It is really good it is

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customers service, that is what I wanted to do. I'm so happy for you.

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It is nearly 10.00pm, we are almost out of time. Stay with us on BBC

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Three, where were we will be showing you where this lot ended up.

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I don't have a place in London, so I will take a bag and live out of

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that. I want to be able to go maybe not to MD level, but something to

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that importance. Who do you think that I should be? So, have they got

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jobs? You have to wait 30 minutes to find out. Thank you to everybody

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who took part this evening. Sara Cox and Craig James, ladies and

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gentlemen and James Caan, as well! APPLAUSE We will also be revealing

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:56:16.:56:18.

who is getting our last two yob jobs with the High Street chain

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On the last day of the series tackling youth unemployment, Richard Bacon and Tina Daheley focus on starting a business. Is the answer to create a job if you cannot find a job?

We hear from young entrepreneurs like Jamal Edwards, who turned his hobby into a media empire, as well as the voice of business experience, James Caan. Our four recruits become CEOs, while celebrities including Labrinth unveil their CV secrets, and Keith Lemon, Fearne Cotton and Paul Ross reveal their dream jobs.


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