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This programme contains some strong language. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-What happens to our kids? -One minute, they're sweet, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
and before you know it, they've morphed into moody teenagers... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
-You're useless. -..Struggling with the challenges of adolescence... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Get out of my fucking room! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
..Leaving their parents wondering, exactly where did they go wrong? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
I just want you to piss off! | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
I'm sitting down! I'm sat down! | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Shut up! | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
These three families are suffering serious Teen Trouble! | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
-Are you OK? -The situation's bad enough already... | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
You just said you weren't hungry! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
You know exactly what you're doing, Chloe! | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
I hate you! | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Great show. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Desperate for change, they have signed up for a week-long retreat away from their usual routines | 0:00:44 | 0:00:50 | |
and home comforts in a bid to turn their lives around. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
The location, Greenhill YMCA in Newcastle, County Down. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
An expert team will put the families through a tough programme of psychotherapy | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
and physical activities. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
They're here to deal with their teens' behaviour, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
but will it turn out that the parents are as much to blame as their kids? | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
The group will be pushed to their limits and taken way beyond their comfort zones... | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
..In an attempt to rebuild their confidence... | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Fucking bitch! | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
..And their relationships. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
But can they step up to the challenge | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
and grasp this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
SHOUTING | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Previously on Teen Trouble... | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
the families arrived and met each other and the experts | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
for the first time. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:12 | |
For me, this week is all about you reconnecting with each other. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
The most important thing is that you speak your mind. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
We're here to help you make the changes | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
that you really want to happen. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
The new faces and unfamiliar surroundings | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
soon proved overwhelming for Chloe. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Chloe, her mum Cathy and stepdad Beano are from Derry. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
With Cathy and Beano's two younger kids also in the house, it's always chaotic. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
You want to get out? | 0:02:38 | 0:02:39 | |
Chloe's behaviour is blamed for a lot of the arguments and her tantrums are part of life. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
-Turn it down! -You're not going to fucking hide! | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
Cathy and Beano hope to change that | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
and both want a better relationship with Chloe. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
Andrea has come away with her three teenage children, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
Rachel, Josh and Naomi. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
Family life is dominated by violent verbal and physical fights between the sisters. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
Stop it! | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
I hate you! | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
Petty arguments escalate quickly out of control. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
I was so angry that I broke the hoover and started smacking her with it. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
It affects the whole family and they all simply want it to stop. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
Get off it right now! | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Siobhan desperately wants a relationship with her daughter. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
Ciara's life revolves around her friends | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
but often she doesn't tell her mum where she's going or who she's with. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-When am I going to know where you are actually going. -I don't know! | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
Incidents involving alcohol have led to a serious loss of trust. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Siobhan knows Ciara can be funny and outgoing, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
but most of the time that side of her personality is kept well hidden. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
By the end of the first day away from home, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
the teens had already shocked their parents by giving up their mobile phones without a fight | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
and even doing the washing-up. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
The group had bonded and the mood was high. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
But up early for the first full day of psychotherapy and outdoor activities, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
are the families feeling as positive as they were last night? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
-Please, can I join you? -No. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
I love you. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
It's trying something different, you know... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
and we'll just see what the day brings now. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
It's all happy families for the three teens next door. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-Are you not having nothing? -I already had cereal. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
It could be too early to say about the arguments and stuff because it's only day 2, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
but it seems more better | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
and everyone seems to be getting along so far at the minute. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
If we were in the house, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
we'd probably be arguing and angry and fighting and stuff like that, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
so I don't know. It feels different, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
but we'll see as the week goes on how it goes. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
And as usual things seem quite strained between Ciara and her mum. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
How do you find that, Ciara? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
You not going to answer that? | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
No? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
Outdoor activities expert Ian Bailey is in charge of the early morning exercise. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:08 | |
He's just pleased the teens have bothered to turn up. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
Anyone want to take a guess at what these three sets of wooden planks are for? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
The three of us is going to have to go and walk with them. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Bang on, yeah. These are skis. These are big skis. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
The way it works is that each family gets a set of skis. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
You're going to race against each other | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
and you're going to head up round those cones and then back to these white cones, to the finish line. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
We're using a series of what we call trust games that really help families engage with one another | 0:05:28 | 0:05:33 | |
and trust one another to make decisions and work together as a team, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
which, clearly for these families, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:38 | |
has been a really difficult thing to do these last few years, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
so it's all about bringing that together, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
hopefully under the guise of good fun. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
-Right foot forward. -Right foot! -Left foot! | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
-Have you any ideas how you're going to do this? -No. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-HE LAUGHS -You're going to have to talk to each other! | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
It's all about rhythm. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
-She's going to get cranky and shout at us. -Yes, I am! | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Chloe's already decided it's too hard and has given up. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Despite barely speaking, Ciara and her mum have romped home across the finish line... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
with time to spare. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
There's no point all coming over here if I've got to go on it! No! | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
Just leave me alone! | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
-It's only a bit of fun. -I told you I don't want to do it. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
-You didn't tell me, you didn't know what we were going to do. -I don't want to do that one! | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
-But we're all having a laugh. -I don't want to do it! | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-You not fancy it now? -No. I'm sorry, I don't want to do it. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-Just youse do it, Mummy. -But... -Go and do it! | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
-Just do it! -Don't speak to me like that! -I don't want to do it! | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
I'll tell you what, Chloe, how's about if you stand off the skis? | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-No... -So you do the speaking. -I don't want to do it all, please. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-I just don't want... -Why don't you give the orders? -Oh, I don't... -Do what Ian says. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
I'm not actually letting you stand out, so you've got two jobs. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
-You can either gives the orders... -I'll give the orders, then. -Right, come on. -Come on. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Some of them are struggling. We've had already Chloe walking off, an argument was building, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:04 | |
and I simply said, "No, Chloe, the rule is you have to join in." | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
And she accepted that and she stepped up. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
It was almost cut through it, stop this escalating drama and just tell it as it is and move on. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:15 | |
So when you say no, she does it. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
-If you say left, they'll lift the left, if you say right, they'll lift the right. -Left. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
Right. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
We don't know which is left and right now. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
It's great to see her working with Cathy and Beano and having a really good time. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
-We're going... -Excellent! That's right. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
Three times you fell. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Three times. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Come to your crates. You're going to use these crates to get from here to those red cones at the far end. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
This particular game is called crates, for obvious reasons, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
and literally we just need to move the crates together as a team, one by one, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
so it's going to be, in other words, lots of people huddling together on a small amount of space. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
They're going to have to hug one another. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-No! -What do you mean? -I won't pull you over. -Yes, you will. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
For some it will be the first time they've actually been in close contact for maybe even years. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:11 | |
Grab a hold of each other. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
-Move! -Your hand's in the way. I can't move. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
Good now. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
You're useless! | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
Move! Do you think I'm going to stand in that wee space? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
-Where do you want me to go? -Closer to the edge. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
I'll tip it over. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-Oh, no! -I'm not going back to get you. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
One of the things I really noticed with Ciara is that she really is quite disengaged from her mum. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
Cos you won't let me hold on to you properly! | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
-If you'd let me hold on to you properly... -Oh, my God, I'm going mad! | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Come here, now, come on! | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
It must be quite tough as a parent watching that, you think, "Oh, I kind of feel for her mum." | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
No, get off me! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
Amanda can see that Siobhan's really hurt by what's just happened with Ciara. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
A game which should have been fun has simply highlighted the rift between them, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:22 | |
leaving Siobhan struggling to hold on to her emotions. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
She just pushed me away like that. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
How long's it been like that for? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
Quite a while. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:32 | |
Was there any one thing that prompted it or was there an incident, anything like that? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
-No...she...as a child she was very clingy to me... -Mm-hm. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
And, you know, went everywhere with me and always wanted me to be there | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
and always wanted to know where I was and... | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-Does she hug and kiss people at all? -Her friends. -So she's very touchy-feely with her friends? | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
-It's not that that's the way she is all the time with everybody. -Yeah. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
-Just feel like she doesn't want me to be there. -Mmm. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
Although it hasn't always been that way, things have been hard going at home for 14-year-old Ciara | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
and her mum Siobhan for a few years now. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
It can be very difficult at times. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
We don't have the best relationship | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
and communication can be very poor. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
-You'll be in a 9.45. -Yeah, I should be. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
-No, you will be, Ciara! -Yeah, all right, I should be. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
-No, should be and will be are two different things. -No, it's not, shut up! | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
'She thinks that we can't talk at all.' | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
She's said in the past that we have nothing in common. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
"I can't have a conversation with you," she says, "We've nothing to talk about it." | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
-9.45. -Right! Jesus Christ! -And will you let me know where you're going before you go. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
'I just couldn't imagine it.' | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
-Couldn't imagine being able to talk to me? -No! | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
I just don't want to. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:50 | |
I could talk to you, but I don't want to. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
It would probably be, like, easier if we got on better... | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
..like me and Mummy. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
-It would be a happier family life for everyone, wouldn't it? -Yeah. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
In their shared pursuit of that elusive happy family life, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
back at Greenhill | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
the parents are meeting together for the first time | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
with clinical psychologist Dr Raman Kapur. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Perhaps difficult for you to start? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
Or expecting me to start? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
-Expecting you... -Expecting you to start. -OK. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
'In terms of my style for conducting a group session, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
'my kind of main message really to the group is, "I'm going to wait and see.' | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
"You bring what you can to the group | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
"and I will do my best to understand it | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
"and say something about what I think is happening in the room." | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
But it's not only about waiting and seeing. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
It's also about giving the patient a chance to see that they have a lot to contribute themselves. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:19 | |
Don't put it all into me. You have a lot of intuition, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
you have a lot of experience you bring to the room and that can be shared. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
And then you've got a working group. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Ciara and I had a good time this morning at the activities, | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
but there was a bit of an issue with the second game that we played, | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
because it involved us actually physically holding on to one another. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:44 | |
That's something Ciara really doesn't like... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
is me touching her or showing affection or anything like that, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:54 | |
-so it was difficult for me that one. -Mmm. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Like Chloe, at the start, even the games today she didn't really want to participate. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
But then the second one and with Chloe jumping across a crate to hold on to me, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:10 | |
she started giving me a hug too, you know what I mean? | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
That's the first time, like, she's even been that close to me or even spending time... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:20 | |
I mean, I think the whole rejection-acceptance sort of line is very tricky, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:28 | |
because of course you want to feel accepted and be accepted, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
but then when the person you're approaching is pushing you away, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
it's a horrible feeling, particularly as a parent, to feel that you're not wanted. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:42 | |
You ask yourself what did I do wrong? Where am I going wrong? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
You know... what's next or what can I do next? | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
The difficult thing to do is take the hits and understand. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
You know, the normal reaction of course is to retaliate or go away. | 0:13:54 | 0:14:00 | |
And maybe by the end of the work with me, if you can put a wee bit of understanding into it, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:06 | |
you can begin to see why they're doing what they're doing. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
Unfortunately, kids, particularly teenagers will hit you where it hurts. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
They'll find your Achilles' Heel and it's just trying to remember that adolescents | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
are at their peak of finding your Achilles' Heel. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
Rachel's family consultations are designed to help the parents and their teens | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
work together on understanding what's gone wrong. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Making it practical like this mask-making session for Siobhan and Ciara | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
takes the focus off the need to talk directly to each other. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
We all have like an external mask that we show to the world. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
What goes with that external mask is a whole load of feelings and thoughts that we keep inside. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:46 | |
So I just wanted to do something today to just explore that a little bit and talk about it. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
'With the mask session, what I was hoping | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
'is just to open up discussions around what they're like as people, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
'both the outwards mask that they present to friends and family,' | 0:14:57 | 0:15:02 | |
but also what's going on underneath that | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
and to just start to talk about emotions | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
and some of the more sensitive issues that are going on for them at the moment. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
-Does that seem relevant to the situation? -Very relevant actually, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
because when the cameras came into the house... | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
"As soon as those cameras are here, you put on your telephone voice! You don't speak normally!" | 0:15:19 | 0:15:25 | |
What's different about Mum's telephone voice, the kind of voice...? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Cos it's fake! | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Right. Right... So thinking about Mum's mask, then, to start with, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
what of these items, is there anything that would stand out that for you would be on Mum's mask? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:42 | |
No. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
No? So what sorts of things would we be thinking about for her mask? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
Just plain, black and white. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Right, OK. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:53 | |
In terms of Ciara's mask, what do you think would stand out on the table or...? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:59 | |
-All bright things. -Ah? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Because she really has a bright personality, I think, you know. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:07 | |
Although her and I don't have a great connection, she has a great connection with everybody else... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:13 | |
you know. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Would you agree with Mum about your mask being a colourful one? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
I think so, yeah. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
OK. Do you want to dive in and have a go at trying | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
to create the outside of the mask that others might see? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
When you were talking | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
about Ciara's connection with other people, Siobhan, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
I noticed it was kind of an emotional subject. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
Shouldn't the best connection you have be with your mother? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
Right. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
That's a strong connection that you have with your mum. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Yeah. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
For you, Ciara, can you see that changing? | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
I suppose so. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
OK. You're not sounding too convinced. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
It's just a bit weird. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
Mmm...can you talk me through the masks, then? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
They've ended up looking very similar. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
-Is that the way you would see Mum, the way she's done her mask? -No! | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
-It sounded a bit different to what you described before. -Yeah. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
So if Mum was being more genuine, Ciara, what would that look like? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
I don't know how to explain it, but again colours, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
so it would be like greens and... I don't know, colours that make me think of outside, and browns... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:45 | |
Oh? | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
Just like natural, you know... | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Ah... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
OK. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
'I sort of had an idea that Ciara thinks that...' | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
I can be fake, at times. But I didn't realise how fake she thought I could be. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:04 | |
I didn't realise how strongly she felt about it... | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
Obviously it's a big issue. She thinks I'm...false. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
False and fake at the same time. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
So now we've a lot of work to do, I think. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
What do you think? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
I suppose. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
After their busy morning, you'd think everybody would be hungry and ready for lunch. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
But at least one of these teenagers is such a fussy eater, he can't find anything he likes on the menu. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
-Stop smelling it and eat it! -Shut up! | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
Josh pretty much lives on a diet of pizza, pasta and cheese. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:52 | |
Does Amanda know you don't like it? | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
The way that I work here and the kids have all signed up to it is...' | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
you've got to try something on your plate. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
You try it, you don't like it, I'll come up with an alternative. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
-You've tried it, though, haven't you? -Yeah, I've ate the top of it. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
Try and eat a wee bit more of it and I'll go and see what else I can get. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
'This is nothing to do with nutrition. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
'This is actually just about basic discipline | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
'and helping these families' | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
find a workable way to three meals a day. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
Everybody else is sitting down. You need to eat something. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
-There's ordinary chicken up there. -I just don't like it, Mummy. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
What would you like instead if you could choose something? | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
'If the kid is pulling back and restricting how they're eating,' | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
what they're eating, dictating how the family lives its life, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:33 | |
it's really hard for the parents and the kids actually to find a way through. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
-You've had nothing for breakfast. -Well, go and eat one and I'll pick something. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
-I have time, I'm just worried about you. -Go on and pick something... -I have something. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
-Well, go and eat it, then. -But I want you to eat along with me. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
I'll go and get something to eat if you go away and leave me alone! | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
'Chloe's the only one right now that is really finding it tough.' | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
But that's no surprise really because at home what she does is go into the cupboard, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
gets biscuits and crisps whenever she wants, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
doesn't eat with the family and she is the boss when it comes to food, not the parents. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:05 | |
For the modern family mealtimes can be a total nightmare. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
We're rarely sitting down to eat together, our cupboards are full of snacks, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
everyone is demanding different meals and parents are simply giving in to the pressure. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
For these families it's no different. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
We're having cod tonight, though Josh'll probably have his usual pizza | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
as he doesn't eat what everybody else eats. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
-I never come home for dinner. -You should be coming home for dinner. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
-Do you want some of this? -Yeah. -Eh? -Waffles. -Do you want waffles? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
This year Christmas Day was the first day we all sat down and ate, but during the week, no... | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
because I'm making three or four dinners at a time. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
It's not fair, but. They're saying eat, eat, eat, and I don't want to eat. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
There's nothing I even like anyway, it's all meat and stuff, it turns my stomach. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
My stomach was already turning anyway. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:56 | |
It's Beano who manages to persuade Chloe to rejoin the group. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
Events over lunch have confirmed Amanda's worries about food and mealtimes being an issue, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
and she's about to set another test for the families. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Tonight, you're all cooking for yourselves in your individual chalets. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:20 | |
You've got three different menus here. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:21 | |
Healthy fish and chips, spaghetti bolognese or homemade pizza. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
The kids are going to help cook and you're going to do it together. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
It's one meal that everyone is having, so come to the compromise. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
-I don't like any of them. -What about fish and chips? -No, I don't any of them. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:39 | |
-You know I don't. You can't force me. -The thing is... | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
You dare! | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
I'm not going to eat it. I just don't want any pizza. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:49 | |
-There's three different things... -I don't want anything. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-What's the decision here? -Healthy fish, chips and peas. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
- She doesn't eat spaghetti bolognese. - I don't like fish either! | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
OK, parents, you're going to have to be the parents here and just make the decision. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
-We have. -We have. This is it. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
-Healthy fish. -No fish! | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
You're not giving me fish! | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
-That's all right. -You know I'm not going to eat it. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Do you know what? I'm going to make it, I'm going to put it out, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
so if you don't want to eat it, you'll starve! | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
-Even eat the chips and peas without the fish. -Can you eat the chips? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
I will let you starve, Chloe, because it's the only way. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Then you'll wake up and you'll be hungry. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Cathy and Beano are trying hard to stand firm and present a united front, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
something Chloe's not used to. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Josh's food fads have meant Naomi's had to compromise too and she's seriously annoyed. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:38 | |
I want the fish and chips but I have to keep him happy because he doesn't eat. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
-You said you were fine with it. -No, I didn't say I was fine with it. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:44 | |
-I had to say I was fine. -You said you were fine with it. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Yeah, but if we had had the fish and chips then you'd have been happy and he'd have been sad | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
-and it would have been the same. -Yes, so why do I always have to lose? | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
-You don't even eat at home! -What is the big deal? | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Each with their own issues, the teens will see clinical psychologist Dr Rachel Andrew | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
on an individual basis across the week. Chloe's first. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
I guess for me I was wondering about what you thought the main difficulties were | 0:23:08 | 0:23:16 | |
for you in your family. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:17 | |
My behaviour. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Your behaviour? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
OK. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
What is it about your behaviour? | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
Being cheeky and that. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
OK. I was just thinking, if we were to write like a shopping list... | 0:23:30 | 0:23:36 | |
of things that you would hope would be different by the end of the week, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
would that be all right? | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
Could we do that? OK. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
So if we had a list and we called this our list of problems... | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
..would you have being cheeky on there as number one? | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
-Ah, right. Is that the thing that Mummy says is the biggest problem for her? -Sometimes. | 0:23:53 | 0:24:00 | |
OK. And do you think it's a problem for you? | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Why? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Cos you're trying to hold it in, but you'll still be cheeky. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
So on our list, our shopping list, we've got being cheeky... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
-Being friendly with people, like being nice... -Instead? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
-Instead, be nice to people instead of being cheeky all the time. -Right. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
Do you find that hard? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
-No, not really. -So you think you could be nice to other people? | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
I'm being nice to Naomi, why can I not be nice to my mammy? | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-Mmm. -There's a problem, but. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
I'll be nice to other people, but not nice to my mammy. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Mmm. And Beano? Or is that something you're too bothered about? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
No? | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
OK. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
Cos when your mum was talking about Beano she seemed to be thinking that he really made an effort with you. | 0:24:55 | 0:25:01 | |
is that the way that you see things? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
I don't know. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
'"I don't know" comes up a lot in sessions, and especially with teenagers, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
'and that can be for a whole host of reasons.' | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
"I don't know" is just a stock answer that people will use, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
rather than think about something that's quite complicated or messy or difficult. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
A bit complicated. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Chloe's clammed up at the mention of Beano. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Clearly there's work to be done, but for now that's enough. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
After the intensity of the psychotherapy sessions, the teens will need a release. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
They're getting the chance to try out the equipment they've been eyeing up since they arrived. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
Being an outdoor centre, here at Greenhill there are some seriously challenging things to do, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
and one of them is something called the Leap Of Faith, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
which is like a totem pole that you climb up, quite high, | 0:25:56 | 0:26:01 | |
and you stand and you jump off. obviously, you've got a rope attached to you... | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
and leap to hold on to what is like a trapeze. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-I'm scared! -All you've got to do is put your hands up high and jump and grab it. Are you ready? | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
-Let's go. -Three, two, one. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Aaargh! | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
It looks terrifying. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
And we're going to ask the teens to do it. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
Lots of reasons why. Of course these things build an incredible amount of self-confidence, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
team spirit, people encouraging one another... | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
-Are you ready? -Don't worry. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
-Up you go. -OK. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
I'm going to do this. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
I'm going to do it. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
-Oh, my God! -Go on, you're going great. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
I'm really, really scared. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Mummy! | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Save me! | 0:26:44 | 0:26:45 | |
Go on, give your sister some encouragement. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
-You're actually just like one more step away. -That's it. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
There's no point coming back down when you've already got so far. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
-She's shaking. -Keep breathing, Naomi, it stops your legs shaking like that. | 0:26:54 | 0:27:00 | |
Go on, go on, just stand up tall. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
Stand up, push hard. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
Excellent. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
Go on, go on! | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
Mummy, Mummy, stand here and say. "You're jumping into my arms, baby girl!" | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
Come on, baby, Mummy's here. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
I can't stand up. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
-You're nearly there. -Just a couple of big deep breaths. Don't overthink it. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
-Just a couple of deep breaths and stand up. -Well done, darling. -Excellent, excellent. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
That's it. Just stand up straight. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
-You'll be a lot more stable once you're stood up. -Yeah! -Good. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
One, two, three... | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
Jump! | 0:27:35 | 0:27:36 | |
CHEERING | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Get me down! | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
That's the scariest thing I've ever done, ever! | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
You did it. You should be so proud of yourself. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Sure... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
-Go, Ciara! -Are you ready? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Yes! | 0:27:53 | 0:27:54 | |
Oh, yes, oh, yeah. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
Up you go. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:57 | |
-You want to go again? -Well done. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
Making it look easy, Ciara's even dropped the sulky teenager persona. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
It looks like the boards are going to come off! | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
It's shaking! | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
Not wanting to put Ciara off, Siobhan is watching from a distance. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
-Go on, do it. -One, two, three. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Jump! | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
CHEERING | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
Let go! | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
OK, just let go. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:37 | |
-Oh! -You don't have to grab your butt on the way down! It's all right. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
Oh! | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
Fantastic! Well done! Excellent. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Cathy is seeing Raman in a one-on-one for the first time. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:51 | |
She's making a real effort to try and understand the root of Chloe's problems. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
I've been thinking... | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
you know, was it because Beano has come into her life? | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
It's not me and her. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
We've never sat down and... | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
..really thought about it in that kind of way. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
You know, I do spend my time with Chloe, you know. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
She's just such a special gift to me, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
because I was bred with my granny and two uncles... | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
..and Chloe was only ten weeks old when my grandmother died. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:27 | |
And...then the two uncles died. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
And it was just me and her, you know. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
And I speak about them all the time there, you know, | 0:29:36 | 0:29:40 | |
and I remember one night we were sitting, the two of us, and she was just... | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
the memory, that was a good memory, and we were looking out the window, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:48 | |
she was going to bed and looking out the window and seeing the moon... | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
and I remember saying, you know, "Look at that moon there." | 0:29:50 | 0:29:55 | |
And she said, "Is that my granny, my Uncle Joe and Charlie looking down at me?" | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
You know, the memory's lovely. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
-So she had the three moons looking down at her... -Aye. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:06 | |
Now she's got three rivals, so it's a bit of a jump for her | 0:30:06 | 0:30:12 | |
to adjust to being so special, being in the moonlight three times, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:17 | |
to really being pushed out of the limelight, I think. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
Not through any fault of your own now, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
but it's just tough for any child to adapt to that shift. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:29 | |
But she doesn't get treated any lesser. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
In fact, she'll probably get more attention off me, do you know what I mean? | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
I think you do try very hard to do that, | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
and I think you do keep it in mind, | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
but I think the reality is that no matter how much you do, it can never be the same as before. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:48 | |
Because once she gets upset and there's a fight, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
she does become the centre of your attention because she has to be. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
So, in a sense, I'm not suggesting that you kind of give up in any way, | 0:30:54 | 0:31:00 | |
but it may be there's that legacy from the past that she can quickly feel excluded... | 0:31:00 | 0:31:08 | |
because it wasn't what it was like before. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
I don't know, maybe that's her paying back now, as you say... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
for being made so special. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Realising that... | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
I don't even think she realised... I don't even think we realised it... | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
-..that this is what it's got to do with now. -Yeah, so this is all going on very powerfully, you know, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:37 | |
hidden in her mind and, er... | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
-I think the more you're aware of it, the more able... -To control it now. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:46 | |
-Yeah, to help her move on... -Aye, definitely. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
Definitely. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
Just one hour with Raman has helped Cathy see what's been staring her in the face all along. | 0:31:54 | 0:32:00 | |
It's a moment of revelation for her. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
It's amazing when somebody sits down and talks with you and sort of puts things straight to your head, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
you know, straight into you, that you don't realise. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I'm at least going to try. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Cos it was us on our own for so long that I spoiled her so much and made her so special... | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
When the other children came along and Beano came along, it... | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
she thought she was left out. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Heartbreaking. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:39 | |
I feel as if it's all my fault now, the way she is now. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
Agreeing to make pizza for dinner was one of today's easier conversations for Siobhan and Ciara, | 0:33:15 | 0:33:20 | |
and things are going pretty well in the kitchen. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
-More tomato puree. -A bit more. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
It's a thing that we wouldn't do very often is cook together, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
so it's an easy thing actually for everybody to take part in, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
so, yeah, it would be a good idea to make it a regular thing, I think. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
-Can I put the mushrooms on? -On mine? -Yeah. -Yes, of course. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
I like the feel of mushrooms. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
And Naomi has managed to put aside her annoyance with Josh. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
Have you only used one tube? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
No, you're using the rest of my tube. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Naomi said she was fine with it, even though she wasn't really fine with it, she wanted fish and chips. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:56 | |
She decided she would take one for the team and make pizza. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
It's just there... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Fresh fish and sweet potato are totally new to Cathy's kids, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
and showing a real change in attitude since lunchtime, Chloe's giving it a go. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:10 | |
Even getting all the kids sitting at the table at the same time to eat the same meal is real progress. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:17 | |
But three-year-old Reise's refusal to try the fish is suddenly the final straw for Beano | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
who's struggling himself with the unfamiliar diet and can't see the point of it. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
-Do you want some? -No! -Do you want more fish? | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
I don't want nothing either. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
-The fish is nearly done. -I wouldn't even that to my dog, Cath! | 0:34:33 | 0:34:38 | |
-Oh, just stop your... -That wean's sitting eating fucking peas! | 0:34:38 | 0:34:43 | |
You might as well count them when you're eating them! | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
But we know at the end of the day you have to eat it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
-They don't have to eat it, they have to try it. -They'll try it, aye! | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
One, two, three, four, five... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:59 | |
-There, you see? -None! | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-Don't eat them, then! -You can have more if you want. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
-That's food? -Go on and give it a rest, will you? | 0:35:11 | 0:35:16 | |
-Just give it a rest! -Give what a rest? -Just give it a rest! -Give what a rest? | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
-The way you're going on. -I'm just going on the way I'm going on! | 0:35:21 | 0:35:23 | |
-It's all about Chloe! -It seems to be all about you! -It's nothing to do with me, nothing to do with us! | 0:35:23 | 0:35:30 | |
We're not on no diet. Are we on a diet? Are we healthy? | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
I'm a 42-year-old man and they want me to eat healthy food! | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
And I'm eating so-what kind of food all my life? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
That's fine! | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Why don't you take a walk and calm yourself down? | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
-I am calm! -No, you're not. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Just take yourself away! Go off somewhere. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
-I'm going to sit here. -Oh, right? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
Where's Chloe? | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
He's a 42-year-old man! He doesn't want to eat healthy, look! | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
It's not just, like, us. Mum is eating fairly light. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
In the heat of the moment the fact that Chloe ate her dinner has gone completely unnoticed. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:16 | |
Right there. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
Where is it? | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
Get it open. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
It's the end of a long day, but only the start of the week, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
and already there are clear developments to be seen. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
While the families have some fun and forget about their worries, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
the experts meet to contemplate the day's events. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
It has been a momentous day of change and drama. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
I want to start with Ciara and her mum. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Do you feel like they're coming back together a little bit? | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
I think it's going to be a gradual process, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
but certainly in the session I had with them both today, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
just the fact that they were sat in a room together trying to manage a conversation like that, | 0:36:55 | 0:37:01 | |
I felt was a step forward. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
I think Cathy has definitely got that capacity to think things through | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
and she was beginning to understand how complicated it is for Chloe to be part of this new family, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:17 | |
and so, yes, I think there's potential there with Cathy. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
What I'd be hoping is that if the parents can change their state of mind to the kids, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:31 | |
be more understanding and more receptive, almost be a bit cooler... | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
I'd agree, and I think if we were to see changes in the parents, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
then there would be a knock-on effect with the children as well. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:46 | |
It's quite a bitter pill for the parents to swallow though | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
if they think, "Hold on a minute, this is me, I created this." | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
They came here thinking, "I've got a problem teenager. I want that teenager to be fixed!" | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
-Yeah. -And we're saying, "Actually, here's a mirror, here's your problem!" | 0:38:00 | 0:38:04 | |
Next time, the group gets down and dirty... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
Naomi's in the firing line... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
It's always me, they all gang up on me at once | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
and tell me what I'm doing wrong all the time. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
There's a revelation from Chloe... | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
-You're scared? -I'm scared of when he... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
And a breakthrough for Ciara and Siobhan. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:24 | |
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