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This programme contains some strong language.

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-What happens to our kids?

-One minute, they're sweet,

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and before you know it, they've morphed into moody teenagers...

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-You're useless.

-..Struggling with the challenges of adolescence...

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Get out of my fucking room!

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..Leaving their parents wondering, exactly where did they go wrong?

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I just want you to piss off!

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I'm sitting down! I'm sat down!

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Shut up!

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These three families are suffering serious Teen Trouble!

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-Are you OK?

-The situation's bad enough already...

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You just said you weren't hungry!

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You know exactly what you're doing, Chloe!

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I hate you!

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Great show.

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Desperate for change, they have signed up for a week-long retreat away from their usual routines

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and home comforts in a bid to turn their lives around.

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The location, Greenhill YMCA in Newcastle, County Down.

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An expert team will put the families through a tough programme of psychotherapy

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and physical activities.

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They're here to deal with their teens' behaviour,

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but will it turn out that the parents are as much to blame as their kids?

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The group will be pushed to their limits and taken way beyond their comfort zones...

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Oh, my God!

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..In an attempt to rebuild their confidence...

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Fucking bitch!

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..And their relationships.

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But can they step up to the challenge

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and grasp this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity?

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SHOUTING

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Previously on Teen Trouble...

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the families arrived and met each other and the experts

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for the first time.

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For me, this week is all about you reconnecting with each other.

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The most important thing is that you speak your mind.

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We're here to help you make the changes

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that you really want to happen.

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The new faces and unfamiliar surroundings

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soon proved overwhelming for Chloe.

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Chloe, her mum Cathy and stepdad Beano are from Derry.

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With Cathy and Beano's two younger kids also in the house, it's always chaotic.

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You want to get out?

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Chloe's behaviour is blamed for a lot of the arguments and her tantrums are part of life.

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-Turn it down!

-You're not going to fucking hide!

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Cathy and Beano hope to change that

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and both want a better relationship with Chloe.

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Andrea has come away with her three teenage children,

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Rachel, Josh and Naomi.

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Family life is dominated by violent verbal and physical fights between the sisters.

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Stop it!

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I hate you!

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Petty arguments escalate quickly out of control.

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I was so angry that I broke the hoover and started smacking her with it.

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It affects the whole family and they all simply want it to stop.

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Get off it right now!

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Siobhan desperately wants a relationship with her daughter.

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Ciara's life revolves around her friends

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but often she doesn't tell her mum where she's going or who she's with.

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-When am I going to know where you are actually going.

-I don't know!

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Incidents involving alcohol have led to a serious loss of trust.

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Siobhan knows Ciara can be funny and outgoing,

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but most of the time that side of her personality is kept well hidden.

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By the end of the first day away from home,

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the teens had already shocked their parents by giving up their mobile phones without a fight

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and even doing the washing-up.

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The group had bonded and the mood was high.

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But up early for the first full day of psychotherapy and outdoor activities,

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are the families feeling as positive as they were last night?

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-Please, can I join you?

-No.

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I love you.

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It's trying something different, you know...

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and we'll just see what the day brings now.

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It's all happy families for the three teens next door.

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-Are you not having nothing?

-I already had cereal.

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It could be too early to say about the arguments and stuff because it's only day 2,

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but it seems more better

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and everyone seems to be getting along so far at the minute.

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If we were in the house,

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we'd probably be arguing and angry and fighting and stuff like that,

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so I don't know. It feels different,

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but we'll see as the week goes on how it goes.

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And as usual things seem quite strained between Ciara and her mum.

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How do you find that, Ciara?

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You not going to answer that?

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No?

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Outdoor activities expert Ian Bailey is in charge of the early morning exercise.

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He's just pleased the teens have bothered to turn up.

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Anyone want to take a guess at what these three sets of wooden planks are for?

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The three of us is going to have to go and walk with them.

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Bang on, yeah. These are skis. These are big skis.

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The way it works is that each family gets a set of skis.

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You're going to race against each other

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and you're going to head up round those cones and then back to these white cones, to the finish line.

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We're using a series of what we call trust games that really help families engage with one another

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and trust one another to make decisions and work together as a team,

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which, clearly for these families,

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has been a really difficult thing to do these last few years,

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so it's all about bringing that together,

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hopefully under the guise of good fun.

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-Right foot forward.

-Right foot!

-Left foot!

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-Have you any ideas how you're going to do this?

-No.

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-HE LAUGHS

-You're going to have to talk to each other!

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It's all about rhythm.

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-She's going to get cranky and shout at us.

-Yes, I am!

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Chloe's already decided it's too hard and has given up.

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Despite barely speaking, Ciara and her mum have romped home across the finish line...

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with time to spare.

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There's no point all coming over here if I've got to go on it! No!

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Just leave me alone!

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-It's only a bit of fun.

-I told you I don't want to do it.

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-You didn't tell me, you didn't know what we were going to do.

-I don't want to do that one!

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-But we're all having a laugh.

-I don't want to do it!

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-You not fancy it now?

-No. I'm sorry, I don't want to do it.

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-Just youse do it, Mummy.

-But...

-Go and do it!

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-Just do it!

-Don't speak to me like that!

-I don't want to do it!

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I'll tell you what, Chloe, how's about if you stand off the skis?

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-No...

-So you do the speaking.

-I don't want to do it all, please.

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-I just don't want...

-Why don't you give the orders?

-Oh, I don't...

-Do what Ian says.

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I'm not actually letting you stand out, so you've got two jobs.

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-You can either gives the orders...

-I'll give the orders, then.

-Right, come on.

-Come on.

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Some of them are struggling. We've had already Chloe walking off, an argument was building,

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and I simply said, "No, Chloe, the rule is you have to join in."

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And she accepted that and she stepped up.

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It was almost cut through it, stop this escalating drama and just tell it as it is and move on.

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So when you say no, she does it.

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-If you say left, they'll lift the left, if you say right, they'll lift the right.

-Left.

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Right.

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We don't know which is left and right now.

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It's great to see her working with Cathy and Beano and having a really good time.

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-We're going...

-Excellent! That's right.

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Three times you fell.

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Three times.

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Come to your crates. You're going to use these crates to get from here to those red cones at the far end.

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This particular game is called crates, for obvious reasons,

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and literally we just need to move the crates together as a team, one by one,

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so it's going to be, in other words, lots of people huddling together on a small amount of space.

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They're going to have to hug one another.

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-No!

-What do you mean?

-I won't pull you over.

-Yes, you will.

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For some it will be the first time they've actually been in close contact for maybe even years.

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Grab a hold of each other.

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-Move!

-Your hand's in the way. I can't move.

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Good now.

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You're useless!

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Move! Do you think I'm going to stand in that wee space?

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-Where do you want me to go?

-Closer to the edge.

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I'll tip it over.

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-Oh, no!

-I'm not going back to get you.

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One of the things I really noticed with Ciara is that she really is quite disengaged from her mum.

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Cos you won't let me hold on to you properly!

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-If you'd let me hold on to you properly...

-Oh, my God, I'm going mad!

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Come here, now, come on!

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It must be quite tough as a parent watching that, you think, "Oh, I kind of feel for her mum."

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No, get off me!

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Amanda can see that Siobhan's really hurt by what's just happened with Ciara.

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A game which should have been fun has simply highlighted the rift between them,

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leaving Siobhan struggling to hold on to her emotions.

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She just pushed me away like that.

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How long's it been like that for?

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Quite a while.

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Was there any one thing that prompted it or was there an incident, anything like that?

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-No...she...as a child she was very clingy to me...

-Mm-hm.

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And, you know, went everywhere with me and always wanted me to be there

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and always wanted to know where I was and...

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-Does she hug and kiss people at all?

-Her friends.

-So she's very touchy-feely with her friends?

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-It's not that that's the way she is all the time with everybody.

-Yeah.

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-Just feel like she doesn't want me to be there.

-Mmm.

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Although it hasn't always been that way, things have been hard going at home for 14-year-old Ciara

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and her mum Siobhan for a few years now.

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It can be very difficult at times.

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We don't have the best relationship

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and communication can be very poor.

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-You'll be in a 9.45.

-Yeah, I should be.

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-No, you will be, Ciara!

-Yeah, all right, I should be.

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-No, should be and will be are two different things.

-No, it's not, shut up!

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'She thinks that we can't talk at all.'

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She's said in the past that we have nothing in common.

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"I can't have a conversation with you," she says, "We've nothing to talk about it."

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-9.45.

-Right! Jesus Christ!

-And will you let me know where you're going before you go.

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'I just couldn't imagine it.'

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-Couldn't imagine being able to talk to me?

-No!

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I just don't want to.

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I could talk to you, but I don't want to.

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It would probably be, like, easier if we got on better...

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..like me and Mummy.

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-It would be a happier family life for everyone, wouldn't it?

-Yeah.

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In their shared pursuit of that elusive happy family life,

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back at Greenhill

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the parents are meeting together for the first time

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with clinical psychologist Dr Raman Kapur.

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Perhaps difficult for you to start?

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Or expecting me to start?

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-Expecting you...

-Expecting you to start.

-OK.

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'In terms of my style for conducting a group session,

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'my kind of main message really to the group is, "I'm going to wait and see.'

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"You bring what you can to the group

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"and I will do my best to understand it

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"and say something about what I think is happening in the room."

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But it's not only about waiting and seeing.

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It's also about giving the patient a chance to see that they have a lot to contribute themselves.

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Don't put it all into me. You have a lot of intuition,

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you have a lot of experience you bring to the room and that can be shared.

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And then you've got a working group.

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Ciara and I had a good time this morning at the activities,

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but there was a bit of an issue with the second game that we played,

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because it involved us actually physically holding on to one another.

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That's something Ciara really doesn't like...

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is me touching her or showing affection or anything like that,

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-so it was difficult for me that one.

-Mmm.

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Like Chloe, at the start, even the games today she didn't really want to participate.

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But then the second one and with Chloe jumping across a crate to hold on to me,

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she started giving me a hug too, you know what I mean?

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That's the first time, like, she's even been that close to me or even spending time...

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I mean, I think the whole rejection-acceptance sort of line is very tricky,

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because of course you want to feel accepted and be accepted,

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but then when the person you're approaching is pushing you away,

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it's a horrible feeling, particularly as a parent, to feel that you're not wanted.

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You ask yourself what did I do wrong? Where am I going wrong?

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You know... what's next or what can I do next?

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The difficult thing to do is take the hits and understand.

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You know, the normal reaction of course is to retaliate or go away.

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And maybe by the end of the work with me, if you can put a wee bit of understanding into it,

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you can begin to see why they're doing what they're doing.

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Unfortunately, kids, particularly teenagers will hit you where it hurts.

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They'll find your Achilles' Heel and it's just trying to remember that adolescents

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are at their peak of finding your Achilles' Heel.

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Rachel's family consultations are designed to help the parents and their teens

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work together on understanding what's gone wrong.

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Making it practical like this mask-making session for Siobhan and Ciara

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takes the focus off the need to talk directly to each other.

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We all have like an external mask that we show to the world.

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What goes with that external mask is a whole load of feelings and thoughts that we keep inside.

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So I just wanted to do something today to just explore that a little bit and talk about it.

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'With the mask session, what I was hoping

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'is just to open up discussions around what they're like as people,

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'both the outwards mask that they present to friends and family,'

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but also what's going on underneath that

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and to just start to talk about emotions

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and some of the more sensitive issues that are going on for them at the moment.

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-Does that seem relevant to the situation?

-Very relevant actually,

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because when the cameras came into the house...

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"As soon as those cameras are here, you put on your telephone voice! You don't speak normally!"

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What's different about Mum's telephone voice, the kind of voice...?

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Cos it's fake!

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Right. Right... So thinking about Mum's mask, then, to start with,

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what of these items, is there anything that would stand out that for you would be on Mum's mask?

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No.

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No? So what sorts of things would we be thinking about for her mask?

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Just plain, black and white.

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Right, OK.

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In terms of Ciara's mask, what do you think would stand out on the table or...?

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-All bright things.

-Ah?

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Because she really has a bright personality, I think, you know.

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Although her and I don't have a great connection, she has a great connection with everybody else...

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you know.

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Would you agree with Mum about your mask being a colourful one?

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I think so, yeah.

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OK. Do you want to dive in and have a go at trying

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to create the outside of the mask that others might see?

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When you were talking

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about Ciara's connection with other people, Siobhan,

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I noticed it was kind of an emotional subject.

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Yeah.

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Shouldn't the best connection you have be with your mother?

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Right.

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That's a strong connection that you have with your mum.

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Yeah.

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For you, Ciara, can you see that changing?

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I suppose so.

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OK. You're not sounding too convinced.

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It's just a bit weird.

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Mmm...can you talk me through the masks, then?

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They've ended up looking very similar.

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-Is that the way you would see Mum, the way she's done her mask?

-No!

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-It sounded a bit different to what you described before.

-Yeah.

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So if Mum was being more genuine, Ciara, what would that look like?

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I don't know how to explain it, but again colours,

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so it would be like greens and... I don't know, colours that make me think of outside, and browns...

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Oh?

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Just like natural, you know...

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Ah...

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OK.

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'I sort of had an idea that Ciara thinks that...'

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I can be fake, at times. But I didn't realise how fake she thought I could be.

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I didn't realise how strongly she felt about it...

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Obviously it's a big issue. She thinks I'm...false.

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False and fake at the same time.

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So now we've a lot of work to do, I think.

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What do you think?

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I suppose.

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After their busy morning, you'd think everybody would be hungry and ready for lunch.

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But at least one of these teenagers is such a fussy eater, he can't find anything he likes on the menu.

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-Stop smelling it and eat it!

-Shut up!

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Josh pretty much lives on a diet of pizza, pasta and cheese.

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Does Amanda know you don't like it?

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The way that I work here and the kids have all signed up to it is...'

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you've got to try something on your plate.

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You try it, you don't like it, I'll come up with an alternative.

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-You've tried it, though, haven't you?

-Yeah, I've ate the top of it.

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Try and eat a wee bit more of it and I'll go and see what else I can get.

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'This is nothing to do with nutrition.

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'This is actually just about basic discipline

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'and helping these families'

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find a workable way to three meals a day.

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Everybody else is sitting down. You need to eat something.

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-There's ordinary chicken up there.

-I just don't like it, Mummy.

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What would you like instead if you could choose something?

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'If the kid is pulling back and restricting how they're eating,'

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what they're eating, dictating how the family lives its life,

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it's really hard for the parents and the kids actually to find a way through.

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-You've had nothing for breakfast.

-Well, go and eat one and I'll pick something.

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-I have time, I'm just worried about you.

-Go on and pick something...

-I have something.

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-Well, go and eat it, then.

-But I want you to eat along with me.

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I'll go and get something to eat if you go away and leave me alone!

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'Chloe's the only one right now that is really finding it tough.'

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But that's no surprise really because at home what she does is go into the cupboard,

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gets biscuits and crisps whenever she wants,

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doesn't eat with the family and she is the boss when it comes to food, not the parents.

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For the modern family mealtimes can be a total nightmare.

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We're rarely sitting down to eat together, our cupboards are full of snacks,

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everyone is demanding different meals and parents are simply giving in to the pressure.

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For these families it's no different.

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We're having cod tonight, though Josh'll probably have his usual pizza

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as he doesn't eat what everybody else eats.

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-I never come home for dinner.

-You should be coming home for dinner.

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-Do you want some of this?

-Yeah.

-Eh?

-Waffles.

-Do you want waffles?

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This year Christmas Day was the first day we all sat down and ate, but during the week, no...

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because I'm making three or four dinners at a time.

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It's not fair, but. They're saying eat, eat, eat, and I don't want to eat.

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There's nothing I even like anyway, it's all meat and stuff, it turns my stomach.

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My stomach was already turning anyway.

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It's Beano who manages to persuade Chloe to rejoin the group.

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Events over lunch have confirmed Amanda's worries about food and mealtimes being an issue,

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and she's about to set another test for the families.

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Tonight, you're all cooking for yourselves in your individual chalets.

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You've got three different menus here.

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Healthy fish and chips, spaghetti bolognese or homemade pizza.

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The kids are going to help cook and you're going to do it together.

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It's one meal that everyone is having, so come to the compromise.

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-I don't like any of them.

-What about fish and chips?

-No, I don't any of them.

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-You know I don't. You can't force me.

-The thing is...

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You dare!

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I'm not going to eat it. I just don't want any pizza.

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-There's three different things...

-I don't want anything.

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-What's the decision here?

-Healthy fish, chips and peas.

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- She doesn't eat spaghetti bolognese. - I don't like fish either!

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OK, parents, you're going to have to be the parents here and just make the decision.

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-We have.

-We have. This is it.

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-Healthy fish.

-No fish!

0:22:050:22:07

You're not giving me fish!

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-That's all right.

-You know I'm not going to eat it.

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Do you know what? I'm going to make it, I'm going to put it out,

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so if you don't want to eat it, you'll starve!

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-Even eat the chips and peas without the fish.

-Can you eat the chips?

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I will let you starve, Chloe, because it's the only way.

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Then you'll wake up and you'll be hungry.

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Cathy and Beano are trying hard to stand firm and present a united front,

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something Chloe's not used to.

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Josh's food fads have meant Naomi's had to compromise too and she's seriously annoyed.

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I want the fish and chips but I have to keep him happy because he doesn't eat.

0:22:380:22:42

-You said you were fine with it.

-No, I didn't say I was fine with it.

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-I had to say I was fine.

-You said you were fine with it.

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Yeah, but if we had had the fish and chips then you'd have been happy and he'd have been sad

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-and it would have been the same.

-Yes, so why do I always have to lose?

0:22:510:22:54

-You don't even eat at home!

-What is the big deal?

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Each with their own issues, the teens will see clinical psychologist Dr Rachel Andrew

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on an individual basis across the week. Chloe's first.

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I guess for me I was wondering about what you thought the main difficulties were

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for you in your family.

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My behaviour.

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Your behaviour?

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OK.

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What is it about your behaviour?

0:23:220:23:27

Being cheeky and that.

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OK. I was just thinking, if we were to write like a shopping list...

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of things that you would hope would be different by the end of the week,

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would that be all right?

0:23:400:23:42

Could we do that? OK.

0:23:420:23:44

So if we had a list and we called this our list of problems...

0:23:440:23:49

..would you have being cheeky on there as number one?

0:23:490:23:53

-Ah, right. Is that the thing that Mummy says is the biggest problem for her?

-Sometimes.

0:23:530:24:00

OK. And do you think it's a problem for you?

0:24:000:24:03

Why?

0:24:040:24:06

Cos you're trying to hold it in, but you'll still be cheeky.

0:24:060:24:08

So on our list, our shopping list, we've got being cheeky...

0:24:100:24:13

-Being friendly with people, like being nice...

-Instead?

0:24:130:24:17

-Instead, be nice to people instead of being cheeky all the time.

-Right.

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Do you find that hard?

0:24:210:24:23

-No, not really.

-So you think you could be nice to other people?

0:24:240:24:28

I'm being nice to Naomi, why can I not be nice to my mammy?

0:24:280:24:31

-Mmm.

-There's a problem, but.

0:24:310:24:34

I'll be nice to other people, but not nice to my mammy.

0:24:340:24:37

Mmm. And Beano? Or is that something you're too bothered about?

0:24:390:24:43

No?

0:24:450:24:47

OK.

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Cos when your mum was talking about Beano she seemed to be thinking that he really made an effort with you.

0:24:550:25:01

is that the way that you see things?

0:25:010:25:03

I don't know.

0:25:030:25:05

'"I don't know" comes up a lot in sessions, and especially with teenagers,

0:25:090:25:14

'and that can be for a whole host of reasons.'

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"I don't know" is just a stock answer that people will use,

0:25:170:25:21

rather than think about something that's quite complicated or messy or difficult.

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A bit complicated.

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Chloe's clammed up at the mention of Beano.

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Clearly there's work to be done, but for now that's enough.

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After the intensity of the psychotherapy sessions, the teens will need a release.

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They're getting the chance to try out the equipment they've been eyeing up since they arrived.

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Being an outdoor centre, here at Greenhill there are some seriously challenging things to do,

0:25:480:25:54

and one of them is something called the Leap Of Faith,

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which is like a totem pole that you climb up, quite high,

0:25:560:26:01

and you stand and you jump off. obviously, you've got a rope attached to you...

0:26:010:26:05

and leap to hold on to what is like a trapeze.

0:26:050:26:08

-I'm scared!

-All you've got to do is put your hands up high and jump and grab it. Are you ready?

0:26:080:26:13

-Let's go.

-Three, two, one.

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Aaargh!

0:26:150:26:16

It looks terrifying.

0:26:160:26:18

And we're going to ask the teens to do it.

0:26:180:26:22

Lots of reasons why. Of course these things build an incredible amount of self-confidence,

0:26:220:26:26

team spirit, people encouraging one another...

0:26:260:26:28

-Are you ready?

-Don't worry.

0:26:280:26:30

-Up you go.

-OK.

0:26:300:26:32

I'm going to do this.

0:26:320:26:34

I'm going to do it.

0:26:340:26:35

-Oh, my God!

-Go on, you're going great.

0:26:350:26:38

I'm really, really scared.

0:26:380:26:40

Mummy!

0:26:410:26:44

Save me!

0:26:440:26:45

Go on, give your sister some encouragement.

0:26:450:26:48

-You're actually just like one more step away.

-That's it.

0:26:480:26:51

There's no point coming back down when you've already got so far.

0:26:510:26:54

-She's shaking.

-Keep breathing, Naomi, it stops your legs shaking like that.

0:26:540:27:00

Go on, go on, just stand up tall.

0:27:000:27:02

Stand up, push hard.

0:27:030:27:05

Excellent.

0:27:050:27:07

Go on, go on!

0:27:070:27:09

Mummy, Mummy, stand here and say. "You're jumping into my arms, baby girl!"

0:27:090:27:13

Come on, baby, Mummy's here.

0:27:130:27:14

I can't stand up.

0:27:140:27:16

-You're nearly there.

-Just a couple of big deep breaths. Don't overthink it.

0:27:160:27:20

-Just a couple of deep breaths and stand up.

-Well done, darling.

-Excellent, excellent.

0:27:200:27:24

That's it. Just stand up straight.

0:27:240:27:26

-You'll be a lot more stable once you're stood up.

-Yeah!

-Good.

0:27:260:27:30

One, two, three...

0:27:300:27:35

Jump!

0:27:350:27:36

CHEERING

0:27:360:27:38

Get me down!

0:27:390:27:41

That's the scariest thing I've ever done, ever!

0:27:430:27:45

You did it. You should be so proud of yourself.

0:27:450:27:48

Sure...

0:27:480:27:50

-Go, Ciara!

-Are you ready?

0:27:510:27:53

Yes!

0:27:530:27:54

Oh, yes, oh, yeah.

0:27:540:27:56

Up you go.

0:27:560:27:57

-You want to go again?

-Well done.

0:27:570:28:00

Making it look easy, Ciara's even dropped the sulky teenager persona.

0:28:020:28:06

It looks like the boards are going to come off!

0:28:060:28:09

It's shaking!

0:28:130:28:15

LAUGHTER

0:28:150:28:17

Not wanting to put Ciara off, Siobhan is watching from a distance.

0:28:220:28:26

-Go on, do it.

-One, two, three.

0:28:260:28:29

Jump!

0:28:290:28:31

CHEERING

0:28:310:28:32

Let go!

0:28:340:28:36

OK, just let go.

0:28:360:28:37

-Oh!

-You don't have to grab your butt on the way down! It's all right.

0:28:370:28:41

Oh!

0:28:410:28:43

Fantastic! Well done! Excellent.

0:28:430:28:45

Cathy is seeing Raman in a one-on-one for the first time.

0:28:470:28:51

She's making a real effort to try and understand the root of Chloe's problems.

0:28:510:28:55

I've been thinking...

0:28:550:28:57

you know, was it because Beano has come into her life?

0:28:570:28:59

It's not me and her.

0:28:590:29:01

We've never sat down and...

0:29:030:29:05

..really thought about it in that kind of way.

0:29:060:29:09

You know, I do spend my time with Chloe, you know.

0:29:110:29:14

She's just such a special gift to me,

0:29:140:29:17

because I was bred with my granny and two uncles...

0:29:170:29:21

..and Chloe was only ten weeks old when my grandmother died.

0:29:220:29:27

And...then the two uncles died.

0:29:290:29:33

And it was just me and her, you know.

0:29:340:29:36

And I speak about them all the time there, you know,

0:29:360:29:40

and I remember one night we were sitting, the two of us, and she was just...

0:29:400:29:42

the memory, that was a good memory, and we were looking out the window,

0:29:420:29:48

she was going to bed and looking out the window and seeing the moon...

0:29:480:29:50

and I remember saying, you know, "Look at that moon there."

0:29:500:29:55

And she said, "Is that my granny, my Uncle Joe and Charlie looking down at me?"

0:29:550:29:59

You know, the memory's lovely.

0:29:590:30:01

-So she had the three moons looking down at her...

-Aye.

0:30:010:30:06

Now she's got three rivals, so it's a bit of a jump for her

0:30:060:30:12

to adjust to being so special, being in the moonlight three times,

0:30:120:30:17

to really being pushed out of the limelight, I think.

0:30:170:30:21

Not through any fault of your own now,

0:30:210:30:23

but it's just tough for any child to adapt to that shift.

0:30:230:30:29

But she doesn't get treated any lesser.

0:30:300:30:33

In fact, she'll probably get more attention off me, do you know what I mean?

0:30:330:30:37

I think you do try very hard to do that,

0:30:370:30:39

and I think you do keep it in mind,

0:30:390:30:42

but I think the reality is that no matter how much you do, it can never be the same as before.

0:30:420:30:48

Because once she gets upset and there's a fight,

0:30:480:30:51

she does become the centre of your attention because she has to be.

0:30:510:30:54

So, in a sense, I'm not suggesting that you kind of give up in any way,

0:30:540:31:00

but it may be there's that legacy from the past that she can quickly feel excluded...

0:31:000:31:08

because it wasn't what it was like before.

0:31:080:31:11

I don't know, maybe that's her paying back now, as you say...

0:31:140:31:18

for being made so special.

0:31:180:31:20

Realising that...

0:31:210:31:24

I don't even think she realised... I don't even think we realised it...

0:31:250:31:29

-..that this is what it's got to do with now.

-Yeah, so this is all going on very powerfully, you know,

0:31:310:31:37

hidden in her mind and, er...

0:31:370:31:39

-I think the more you're aware of it, the more able...

-To control it now.

0:31:390:31:46

-Yeah, to help her move on...

-Aye, definitely.

0:31:460:31:50

Definitely.

0:31:500:31:52

Just one hour with Raman has helped Cathy see what's been staring her in the face all along.

0:31:540:32:00

It's a moment of revelation for her.

0:32:000:32:02

It's amazing when somebody sits down and talks with you and sort of puts things straight to your head,

0:32:050:32:10

you know, straight into you, that you don't realise.

0:32:100:32:13

I'm at least going to try.

0:32:150:32:18

Cos it was us on our own for so long that I spoiled her so much and made her so special...

0:32:210:32:25

When the other children came along and Beano came along, it...

0:32:250:32:29

she thought she was left out.

0:32:290:32:32

Heartbreaking.

0:32:380:32:39

I feel as if it's all my fault now, the way she is now.

0:32:490:32:54

Agreeing to make pizza for dinner was one of today's easier conversations for Siobhan and Ciara,

0:33:150:33:20

and things are going pretty well in the kitchen.

0:33:200:33:23

-More tomato puree.

-A bit more.

0:33:230:33:25

It's a thing that we wouldn't do very often is cook together,

0:33:250:33:28

so it's an easy thing actually for everybody to take part in,

0:33:280:33:32

so, yeah, it would be a good idea to make it a regular thing, I think.

0:33:320:33:35

-Can I put the mushrooms on?

-On mine?

-Yeah.

-Yes, of course.

0:33:350:33:39

I like the feel of mushrooms.

0:33:390:33:42

And Naomi has managed to put aside her annoyance with Josh.

0:33:430:33:47

Have you only used one tube?

0:33:470:33:49

No, you're using the rest of my tube.

0:33:490:33:51

Naomi said she was fine with it, even though she wasn't really fine with it, she wanted fish and chips.

0:33:510:33:56

She decided she would take one for the team and make pizza.

0:33:560:34:01

It's just there...

0:34:010:34:03

Fresh fish and sweet potato are totally new to Cathy's kids,

0:34:030:34:06

and showing a real change in attitude since lunchtime, Chloe's giving it a go.

0:34:060:34:10

Even getting all the kids sitting at the table at the same time to eat the same meal is real progress.

0:34:100:34:17

But three-year-old Reise's refusal to try the fish is suddenly the final straw for Beano

0:34:180:34:24

who's struggling himself with the unfamiliar diet and can't see the point of it.

0:34:240:34:28

-Do you want some?

-No!

-Do you want more fish?

0:34:280:34:31

I don't want nothing either.

0:34:310:34:33

-The fish is nearly done.

-I wouldn't even that to my dog, Cath!

0:34:330:34:38

-Oh, just stop your...

-That wean's sitting eating fucking peas!

0:34:380:34:43

You might as well count them when you're eating them!

0:34:430:34:46

But we know at the end of the day you have to eat it.

0:34:460:34:50

-They don't have to eat it, they have to try it.

-They'll try it, aye!

0:34:500:34:54

One, two, three, four, five...

0:34:540:34:59

-There, you see?

-None!

0:34:590:35:02

-Don't eat them, then!

-You can have more if you want.

0:35:020:35:06

-That's food?

-Go on and give it a rest, will you?

0:35:110:35:16

-Just give it a rest!

-Give what a rest?

-Just give it a rest!

-Give what a rest?

0:35:160:35:21

-The way you're going on.

-I'm just going on the way I'm going on!

0:35:210:35:23

-It's all about Chloe!

-It seems to be all about you!

-It's nothing to do with me, nothing to do with us!

0:35:230:35:30

We're not on no diet. Are we on a diet? Are we healthy?

0:35:300:35:34

I'm a 42-year-old man and they want me to eat healthy food!

0:35:340:35:38

And I'm eating so-what kind of food all my life?

0:35:380:35:42

That's fine!

0:35:420:35:44

Why don't you take a walk and calm yourself down?

0:35:460:35:50

-I am calm!

-No, you're not.

0:35:500:35:52

Just take yourself away! Go off somewhere.

0:35:540:35:58

-I'm going to sit here.

-Oh, right?

0:35:580:36:00

Where's Chloe?

0:36:000:36:02

He's a 42-year-old man! He doesn't want to eat healthy, look!

0:36:040:36:07

It's not just, like, us. Mum is eating fairly light.

0:36:070:36:10

In the heat of the moment the fact that Chloe ate her dinner has gone completely unnoticed.

0:36:100:36:16

Right there.

0:36:160:36:17

Where is it?

0:36:170:36:20

Get it open.

0:36:200:36:21

It's the end of a long day, but only the start of the week,

0:36:240:36:28

and already there are clear developments to be seen.

0:36:280:36:31

While the families have some fun and forget about their worries,

0:36:310:36:35

the experts meet to contemplate the day's events.

0:36:350:36:38

It has been a momentous day of change and drama.

0:36:390:36:43

I want to start with Ciara and her mum.

0:36:430:36:45

Do you feel like they're coming back together a little bit?

0:36:460:36:49

I think it's going to be a gradual process,

0:36:490:36:52

but certainly in the session I had with them both today,

0:36:520:36:55

just the fact that they were sat in a room together trying to manage a conversation like that,

0:36:550:37:01

I felt was a step forward.

0:37:010:37:03

I think Cathy has definitely got that capacity to think things through

0:37:070:37:11

and she was beginning to understand how complicated it is for Chloe to be part of this new family,

0:37:110:37:17

and so, yes, I think there's potential there with Cathy.

0:37:170:37:20

What I'd be hoping is that if the parents can change their state of mind to the kids,

0:37:250:37:31

be more understanding and more receptive, almost be a bit cooler...

0:37:310:37:35

I'd agree, and I think if we were to see changes in the parents,

0:37:370:37:42

then there would be a knock-on effect with the children as well.

0:37:420:37:46

It's quite a bitter pill for the parents to swallow though

0:37:490:37:52

if they think, "Hold on a minute, this is me, I created this."

0:37:520:37:55

They came here thinking, "I've got a problem teenager. I want that teenager to be fixed!"

0:37:550:38:00

-Yeah.

-And we're saying, "Actually, here's a mirror, here's your problem!"

0:38:000:38:04

Next time, the group gets down and dirty...

0:38:060:38:09

Naomi's in the firing line...

0:38:090:38:11

It's always me, they all gang up on me at once

0:38:110:38:14

and tell me what I'm doing wrong all the time.

0:38:140:38:17

There's a revelation from Chloe...

0:38:170:38:19

-You're scared?

-I'm scared of when he...

0:38:190:38:22

And a breakthrough for Ciara and Siobhan.

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