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What happens to our cute kids? One minute they're sweet and adorable... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:07 | |
and before you know it they have morphed into moody teenagers... | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
-It's useless. -..struggling with the challenges of adolescence... | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
INDISTINCT ARGUING | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
..leaving their parents wondering exactly where did they go wrong? | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
SHOUTING | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
The situation is bad enough. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
You just said you weren't hungry! What do you mean you don't know? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
-You know exactly what you're doing, Chloe. -Hey, hey! | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Rachel... | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
These three families are suffering serious teen trouble. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Desperate for change, they've signed up for a week-long retreat | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
away from their usual routines and home comforts | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
in a bid to turn their lives around. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
The location, Newcastle, County Down, where an expert team awaits. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
Together they will push them to their limits... | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
-We're supposed to be doing this together. -I don't care. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
..in an attempt to rebuild their confidence | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
and their relationships. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
But can they step up to the challenge | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
-and grasp this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity? -SHOUTING | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
So far on the retreat, work has been intense... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
-I don't want to be treated like this. -I just feel as if it's all my fault now. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
I can't do all of it at once. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
-..sometimes rewarding... -I wanted to do that, get the aggro out of you. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
-..and rarely dull. -There we go, we got it. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
Mum Cathy and stepdad Beano | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
are here to tackle Chloe's ever-worsening behaviour. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-I showed it to you yesterday. -You did not show it to me yesterday. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
Did you sign the daybook? | 0:02:08 | 0:02:09 | |
With younger brother and sister Rhys and Orla around | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
and the fact that Chloe and stepdad Beano often don't get on, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
home life is hectic. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
I can't take it. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
They have their daddy here and I don't know where mine is. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
But already this week there are big signs of progress between the two of them. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
Between Siobhan and middle daughter Ciara | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
there is little or no communication. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
-What are you doing now? -Washing my hands! | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
And things here haven't been a whole lot better. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
-Come with me and do this. -Shut up. -Ciara! | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
Shocked to find out what Ciara really thinks of her... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
I didn't realise how fake she thought I could be. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
..Siobhan is facing up to the fact | 0:02:51 | 0:02:52 | |
that she is a big part of the problem. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Constant fighting between sisters Naomi and Rachel | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
forced mum Andrea to give up her bedroom to keep them apart. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
It's only a three-bedroom house, so I sleep down here on the sofa, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
for about a year now. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:07 | |
She's always complaining about it, like it's uncomfortable and stuff, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
but it keeps me and Rachel from fighting. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Joshua has a ringside view of his sisters' extreme behaviour. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
They know what they're doing, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
it's just that they don't know how to control themselves. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-And this week has not been without its issues. -What is the big deal? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Last night, halfway through the week, there was a surprising | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
change of mood which caught everyone a bit off guard. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
I just want to be, like, nicer to everyone. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
So it'll be easier for everyone else. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
Past the midway point in the week now, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
and the mood in the cabins is reflective. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
Siobhan and Ciara have had something of a breakthrough. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Around the campfire last night was very good. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
She just said she wanted to be happy, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
so it's up to herself and me and the whole family to try and get there. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:14 | |
Feeling settled into life here, the Crillys would happily stay. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
-You were good this morning. -Kind of sad it's coming to an end, though. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:23 | |
We've kind of developed like a neighbourhood here | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
and this has become a daily routine | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
and it's going to be just as hard to leave here | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
as it was to come here in the beginning. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
And Cathy feel surprised at how different things feel already. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
We come here a few days, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
and for the work myself and Beano and Chloe has put in, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
the results... We're not fixed, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
but from last Friday we're a changed family. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
The three of us have changed. As people. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
And it's that change that these families need | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
to improve their relationships. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
It's become very clear that it's not simply down to the teens | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
to change their behaviour, it's the adults too. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Today's sessions are an opportunity for the parents | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
to expand on the positive mood. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
As parents, sometimes most valuable advice is the most practical advice. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
So for that we've brought in another expert, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Pip Jaffa, who runs Parenting NI, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and what she's going to do is really work with the families | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
to give them those practical parenting strategies | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
that I think they really need. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-The generation seems to have changed so much. -Yes. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
From our generation to our children's generation. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-We would never, never have disrespected our parents. -Right. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
And one of the interesting things about respect | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
is that if you want it - and we all want to be respected - | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
is that we have to give it. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
And teenagers look for that. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
Most of the time, it's just rows. Nobody is respecting anybody else. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
People are saying horrible things to each other most of the time. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Yes, I can see exactly what you're saying there, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
because if we're all constantly at each other's throats, you know... | 0:05:55 | 0:06:00 | |
I'm not giving them respect either. And they're not giving it back. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
And when there are a lot of rows, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
it's very difficult to break that cycle. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
It's trying to get a little chink where we can say | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
they've done something nice or something good. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
If I said to you, Cathy, what have you noticed recently | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
that Chloe has done that is good or you were pleased with? | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
We've come here. Definitely. There's a change. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
She still has her wee moments, like, but I'm not pushing. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
And that sounds as if YOU'VE made a change. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
-Yeah. -Which is so good. And if you make a change, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
then the child or the teenager begins to change too. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
It's simple, reassuring advice. Parenting teens is tough, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:47 | |
but taking a firm lead is the first step to harmony at home. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
And channelling the teenagers' energy into something fun | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
and constructive is a great way of relieving tensions. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:58 | |
This week's activities aim to build self-confidence, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
which is essential for these teens who have come here | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
believing that they are the cause of their families' problems. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
Waterproofs, check. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:14 | |
Lifejackets, check. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
It's time to hit the water. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
SQUEALING | 0:07:18 | 0:07:19 | |
Leading this canoeing mission | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
is outdoors activities expert Ian Bailey. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
We've got to turn left, we've got to turn left. Look at that! | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
Very nice, very nice. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Keep going, keep going, keep going! | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
SQUEALING | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
Stop! | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
Back a bit, back a bit, back a bit. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
We'll head for the steps. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Pulling together as a team like this is a relief | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
from the problems and pressures of home life. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Do you think this week's making any kind of difference for you? | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
Yeah, we are actually getting on better here than we would at home. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
-So it's different. -Class! How about yourself, Chloe? -I don't know. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
-I notice you get on better with your mum and Beano. -Yeah. It's true. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:04 | |
There's not as much tension between everyone. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
Reverse, reverse! | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
Away from the watchful eyes of their parents, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:12 | |
the teenagers are able to be themselves | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
and behave as any self-respecting teen would, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
given a lake and a paddle. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
LAUGHTER AND SQUEALING | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
It's a far cry from the conflicts at home. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Since becoming a teenager, | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
Ciara has found it increasingly difficult to relate to her mum. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
We don't have the best relationship. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
Communication can be very poor at times. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
-Ciara? -I'm going to bed before I go out. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
-You're going to bed?! -Before I go out, yeah! | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
You couldn't imagine being able to talk to me? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
I could talk to you if I wanted to, but I don't. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
Clearly, Ciara doesn't respond well to Siobhan's current approach. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Perhaps parenting expert Pip will be able to help. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
Obviously my children actually do think | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
that I don't really have that much interest | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
in what they're doing, which isn't true, of course. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
But I mustn't give them that feeling | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
that they CAN come to me with just everything. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
-So that sounds like something that you could maybe work on a bit. -Yeah. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
"I don't think I'm supporting you in the right way. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
"What way would you like that support?" | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
So they come back to tell you | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
what it is you could do in the way that suits them. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
I thought about giving the girls individual time with me | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
on their own. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
Because really because of all the difficulties with Ciara, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
she has been getting most of my attention. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
And everything's been revolving around what's going on with her, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
and it's affecting the other two girls, you know. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
And that way they would all have sort of time with me on their own. | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
Already Siobhan has identified practical steps she can take | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
to bring her family together. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
And it will be the same kind of practical steps | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
which could benefit Cathy and Beano. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Chloe has said she often feels unfairly blamed | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
and would like less shouting in the house. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
SHOUTING | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
No! That's enough! Enough is enough! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
And then look at the whole ruckus, Chloe. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
You know exactly what you're doing, Chloe. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Though Cathy and Beano are often at a loss | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
as to how to handle Chloe, short of shouting. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Straight-talking Pip will tackle this head-on. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
The one issue we're going to try and sort out is stopping shooting. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
-This is a big ask. -It's the only way that we can get through to Chloe. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
-But you're not getting through, Cathy, it's not working. -I know. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Now I know, because through the week, I'm realising that. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:53 | |
Could you say something to her like, | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
"Do you want to take yourself up to your room for five minutes, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
"and when you are calmer, come down? | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
"I see you're angry. I hear you're angry. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
"When you come down," you know, "I'm not talking to you | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
"when you're shooting." | 0:11:04 | 0:11:05 | |
I would usually do that, but she gets worse. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
And at that point, Cathy, if you can say...nothing. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
A very strong message - "I'm not talking to you when you're shouting. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
"Take yourself off, and when you calm down, I'll talk to you." | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Cos this shouting is the thing | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
that seems to be creating a lot of upset in the house. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
It is. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
So it's a bit about giving yourself the badge to say "I am in charge." | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
"I am a parent and I am in charge." One last sort of thought. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:34 | |
What do you do together that's fun? Can we be thinking maybe of that? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
-We'll go to bingo or something. -There you go! There you go! | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
It's a familiar message - | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
life should be fun, at least some of the time. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
And Amanda's got something planned for the parents | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
as a reward for their morning's work. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
One of the activities we've got here at Greenhill is a zip wire. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
A very zip wire. So I'm going to let all the adults have a shot. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
It might work, it might fall flat on its face, I don't know, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
but it's going to be good to see. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
Embracing everything that's been throughout this week, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
-Cathy is looking invincible. -I'm going first. -You're going first? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
It's going to be brilliant. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Clip this metal thing to your chest. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Deep breaths, Cathy, bend your knees. Step forward and away you go. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
That's it. Excellent. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
WHOOPING AND CHEERING | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
Yee-ha! | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
I'm coming back. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Magic! | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-What's your name? -Andrea. -Andrea, OK. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Pretty easy. This is just to stop you leaving the platform. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Fourth-best thing that could have happened to me. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
Apart from the three children. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
Just step. You just bend your knees slightly. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
He taps you on the head and just... away you go. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
I know you're afraid of heights, Beano, you know what I mean? | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
See once you get to the top...? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
I'm not even thinking of it, I'll be thinking about the ground. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
-What was it like? -Terrible. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
I've have done this a load of times before, it's not a problem. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
-All right? -Not to be outdone by the women, he's off. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
-Everybody's afraid of something. -They are. That really scared me. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
I am so brave, aren't I, standing down there watching them, laughing. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
-You're fine. Just take your time. -Last up is Siobhan. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
And she's loving it! | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
SQUEALING | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
Back at base, it's time for the team's group session | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
with clinical psychologist Dr Rachel Andrew. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Six different colours of sand represent six different emotions. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
Rachel wants the teams to think about how they actually feel | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
when they're having a serious argument, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
that they're not simply angry, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
and show that potentially complex mixture of emotions | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
by layering the sand in jars. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
So we've got some jars of emotions there. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Who wants to just talk me through theirs... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
first of all? | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
Mine's, I tried to level the sadness with anger, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
then it, like, leads to frustration and annoyed as well. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:43 | |
And so, when your emotions are like that, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
what sort of things are you likely to do? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
If it's between me and Rachel, like, lash out and hit, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
because I'm frustrated and angry. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Because Naomi and Rachel's endless arguments | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
take up so much of their mum's time, | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Josh often feels there's little time left for him. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Naomi takes up a lot of time with Mum | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
and Rachel would take... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
..other things and, obviously I would take what's left of it, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
but Mum has, which is still a fair bit, but then, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
-I still feel like I get the remains of what's left of everything. -Ah. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:21 | |
Rachel used to go round the house, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
saying Mum loved Josh more than she loved us | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
and he gets more attention than anybody. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
-I used to say it. -Yes, you just... -Not any more, for a long time. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Oh, whatever. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
SHE SIGHS | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
When you argue at home, does it sound like this? | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
Louder. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:41 | |
Louder, OK. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Because I was going to say I think you're doing a great job | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
of just discussing this. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
I can see all of these emotions coming up | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
whilst you're talking about something | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
that's a really sensitive issue for all of you. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Tell me about your jar, then. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Um, I get frustrated with fights. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
But then I get, like, really annoyed. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Sometimes I think the fights are not needed, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
or some of the crying's not needed, or... But people are saying | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
I'm just stupid and then I'm getting really angry with that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
Right. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
So in your jar, you've got only a little bit of sadness in there. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
I'm more, like angry and annoyed than I would say sad, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
-in an argument. -And when your jar's full like that, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
then what types of things would we see you do? | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
Sometimes I'd just crack up and go mental and start throwing things... | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
And for you, Chloe, were there things that Josh and Naomi | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
and Rachel and even Ciara have said that you think, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
well, that's a bit like me? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
Well, it could be that way, but me too, because I do, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
for a while... throw things off walls and... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
..kick things and punch them. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
And in terms of your jar... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
..it's just a whole lot of confusion, you just feel confused? | 0:17:03 | 0:17:08 | |
When you do it, but then you calm down and you don't even remember it. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
Right. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
'For Chloe, her jar says it all. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
'It's just a load of confusion. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
'What I'm wondering with Chloe is if it just will take, really' | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
a bit more work for her to try to understand the situation she's in. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
Now 13, Chloe was diagnosed | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
when she was six. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Rachel wants to help Chloe feel more in control of her own behaviour. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
I suppose when I've met young people who've got ADHD, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
sometimes they find it hard to concentrate | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
and they're a bit impulsive, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
so they might think of doing something | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
and just do it straight away. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
-And talking about different things and all? -Yes. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
I was wondering about this as an idea. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Some traffic lights. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Right. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Because what I think sometimes happens is you go straight away | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
from wanting to do something to doing it. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
So the traffic lights stand for different things. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
The red one being... | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
..stop. This one is for... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
thinking. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
So, say when you next feel angry, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
this would pop into your head, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
just stop for a minute. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
Have a think about what it is that you're going to do next. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
And then make a choice about what you're going to do. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Say your mum said something to you and she wound you up, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
you might be thinking, right, stop. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
What am I going to do about it? | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
And what would be your choices, do you think? | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
-Be cheeky because she's cheeky back to me. -Mm-hm. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
I guess there'd be some other choices in there. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
You could ignore... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Or, do as you're told? | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
-I get the point. -LAUGHS | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
Next time you feel you're going to lose your temper and be cheeky, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
just to think of this, stop sign. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
I just want you to try | 0:19:17 | 0:19:18 | |
-to put in a couple of seconds where you have a think about it. -Right. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
Getting to know Chloe over the week, Rachel Andrew has another idea | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
which might just help improve Chloe's behaviour. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
I'm going to go down now and see Cathy. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I'm going to give her a chart | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
and what I'm hoping that chart will do is put the whole family | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
on red-alert for the changes that Chloe wants to make. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
I'm just hoping by them praising Chloe and encouraging her, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
that's really just going... going to help Chloe along | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
and really help her achieve the goals that she's set herself. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
-Hiya, Cathy. -Hi, Rachel. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
-When I talked to Chloe... -Yeah. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
..she'd said that, by the end of the week, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
she wanted to be a bit calmer, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
she wanted to be helpful, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
she wanted to talk nicely to people, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
-and she wanted to listen more. -Right. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
And what I wanted to do is really put you, as a family, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
-on red-alert for that... -Right. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
..for any of these four things, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
with the idea that it will encourage Chloe to do it more, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
the more people are noticing and saying, "Oh, I noticed you were calmer." | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
-Yeah. -Or, "You've been really helpful there, Chloe." | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
Each time you notice Chloe doing one of these things, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
-you let her know, and then just add a star to the sky, here. -Right. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
Just there, so that when Chloe comes in, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
she'll be able to notice the amount of stars that's gone on it. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Yeah, I think so. So, I'll leave the stars with you, then, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-and you can explain it to Chloe, as well. -No bother. Thank you, Rachel. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
Chloe's stepdad, Beano, is with clinical psychologist Raman, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
reflecting on his own behaviour | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
and making a revelation which Raman believes | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
could be having a huge impact on his relationship with Chloe. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
There have been some times, she might have done something wrong, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and I've roared at her, do what I mean? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
That's how, maybe, Chloe felt distance, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
because she was scared when I roared, or something. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
I did say, "Chloe, I'm only looking out for you, love. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
"Do you know what I mean? I'm not a big, bad wolf, or something. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
"I'm only there to help you." | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
I've got my own flat, and at times, I just said, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
"I've had enough," and I've went over to the flat | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
and just sat there, drinking, you know what I mean? | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
-So, your flat, really, is your escape hatch? -Yeah. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
And then I've got my daughter and my granddaughter living in the flat. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
Oh, you have a family from other... | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
-Past relationships. -Ah. Right. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
So there would be lots of things for Chloe to be jealous about, with you? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
I can't say jealous, because my daughter... | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
my older daughter treats Chloe, anyway, as her younger sister, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:06 | |
things like that, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
and they would come up, anyway, to the house, you know? So... | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
Even just, I guess, in terms of helping you manage Chloe | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
when you go back home, I think one of the things | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
is keeping in mind that Chloe has maybe lots of reasons | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
to see you in a completely different light | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
to how you're positioning yourself. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
You want to be her father and you want to give her the best, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
but from her point of view, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
she's got to share you with so many people, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
so she's got a lot of stuff going on there | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
before she can come out and relate to you properly. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
It will take a while... It might never happen. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
It might never happen. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
But as long as she knows, like, I was there. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
With Beano beginning to understand how Chloe might feel, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
he is one step closer to building a better relationship with her. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
While the adults are being encouraged to face up to their parenting duties, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
Dr Rachel Andrew is keen that sisters Naomi and Rachel | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
take responsibility for THEIR behaviour, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
and she's got footage shot by their brother Josh to help. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
I wanted to meet with the two of you, together, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
because it seemed like the difficulties with your relationship | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
are having a knock-on effect into the whole family, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
and I wanted to start by showing you the two of you arguing, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
and for you to give me your thoughts about it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
'You see, I have my problems, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
'I'm stressed, and Michael says... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
'Settle down.' | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
'Rachel, she's very stressed. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
'Oh, my gosh. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:01 | |
'I'm sticking to my...' | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
SHE SOBS | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
-Shall we stop? -Yeah. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
It seemed that there was a moment, watching that, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
when you could have made a choice to leave, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
but you were choosing to stay at the table instead. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
Because I wanted to talk her out, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
like, to figure out why I wasn't allowed to stay. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
Rachel always has to be in... When I'm talking about my problems, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
or being stressed out, Rachel always has to come in | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
and sit down and listen to everything I have to say. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
It's just the way you reacted when I sat down. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
All you had to do was say. You didn't have to shout and cry. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Yeah, because every time you do come in, you make faces | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and you make comments and you tell me to wise up, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
and that's exactly why I didn't want you to come in and sit down. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
-I wasn't even going to do that. -You DID do it, Rachel. -I didn't do it. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
-You did. -I came in and sat down and didn't even speak. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I said in the video, "Stop pulling faces." | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
You would like Naomi to try to calm things down a bit? | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Yeah, everything's such a big deal, and it's not. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
I get so upset, I don't know what to do to calm myself down, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
so I end up just screaming or punching stuff, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
or something like that. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
But why does someone get on like that? Over such small things? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
Hmm. I was wondering if that's kind of how it is for you both, in life. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
Maybe, over these next days to come, then, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
we look out for Naomi being a bit calmer. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
If you notice Naomi being a bit calmer, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
I think it would be great if you could let her know that you've noticed that. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
And then, I guess, if they are times when you're feeling stressed, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
if you were able to say to Rachel, "I need some time on my own," | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
and if you say that, and you then notice Rachel going along with what you've said, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
you might tell her how much you appreciated that. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
So maybe we just see how those things go along over the next few days. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
-CATHY: -Do you know, this is priceless, what we've had this week, priceless. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:11 | |
We'll never probably get this opportunity again. Never. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
I've learnt a lot about myself, I've learnt a lot about Beano, | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
and I've certainly learned a lot about my daughter. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
-But now we are in control. -Yeah, that's the difference. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
You know that's true, we are in control. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
-I'm not going to let Chloe be in control of me. -Mm-hm. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
She has to learn that, when she does wrong, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
there has to be consequences. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
It'll be parenting time when we go back, | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and not rushing into things. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
It'll just be friends so far. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
I'm making a bit progress myself, I can feel. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
Everything that happens is about me and Ciara, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:57 | |
and the other two are sort of pushed to the sidelines and left out of it, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
so I need to try and break that cycle between Ciara and I, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:07 | |
and concentrate more on the family as the four of us, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
instead of just me and Ciara. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
You know, they have to start taking responsibility | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
for what they do, how they treat each other. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
THEY CHEER | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
'..but they can be together, and they have to manage that. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:32 | |
'You know, I suppose, for me, it's remembering to use my head more, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:39 | |
'rather than them leading me round by my emotions. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
'We need to feel a sense of achievement sometimes, too, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
'because teenagers are very good at making you feel like a failure, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
'and where do we get our sense of achievement from? | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
'How do WE feel good about ourselves?' | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
Next time, it's back to square one for Naomi and Rachel. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
-I'm not trying to be. -But you are trying. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
You're trying your frickin' damnedest to put me down. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
-Chloe scaled new heights... -Come on, Chloe. -Ohhh! -Come on! | 0:28:18 | 0:28:24 | |
..and Siobhan bares her soul. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
Because I really want it to work. I want things to get better. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 |