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This programme contains some strong language | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
This programme contains some scenes of a sexual nature | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
Body image is all about a person's self-esteem. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
And once you get over that massive hurdle of trying to come out, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
the next stage is trying to figure out | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
how in the world you're going to fit in | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
to this brand-new community that you find yourself in. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
And this will often start with how you look and how you behave. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
The gay community has created some quite clearly defined tribes | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
based on your body. Whether you are fat, thin, hairy, muscular - | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
there is a label for it. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
Bear, twink, otter, jock, femme, rhino. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
Rhino isn't one, but you know what, it might as well be. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
There are a lot of animals in there, that's all I'm saying! | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
These tribes, based purely on body image, define not only how we look, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
but supposedly who our friends are and who we have sex with. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
I want to know why gay culture puts such a heavy pressure on us men | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
to look a certain way, to act a certain way, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
and what better place to do that than right here | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
in the centre of gay London, Soho? | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Penises. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
One, two, three. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
Four, five, six, seven. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
Eight, nine, ten. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
21. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:37 | |
Oh, shit! 22. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
Looking for more dick. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:40 | |
Look at these! | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
You would be a very brave guy to wear a pair of these | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
if you didn't have a banging body. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
No fucking way! | 0:01:48 | 0:01:49 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
It's got padding in it. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
Look, this is incredible. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
Why have I not known about this before? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
Not that I need it... | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
just saying. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:01 | |
These ones are glorious. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
I don't know if it's because of the gold bottom underneath it, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
-but they are... -They are one of our best sellers, actually. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
I think it's because they are sheer. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
If you go into Ann Summers, it's all that kind of fabric | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and it's sexy and it's slinky and here you have it for guys. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Do you ever get people coming in who feel like | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
there is nothing for them here? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
We have all walks of the scene coming in, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
from your very slim twink-style guy, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
to your very, very large bear-type guy. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
What would you categorise me as? | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
You know, in these, like, tribes, what am I? | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
If I saw you coming through the door, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
I would probably say you were probably very like myself, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
in that, you know, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
bottom and, you know, conscious of your body, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
conscious of your appearance. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
So would you say that bottoms are a little bit more feminine? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
The stereotype would be that, yeah. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
You know, that we do tend to lean more towards that ilk. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:08 | |
What would you say if I told you I'm actually a top and I go to the gym? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
-Personally, I'd be very surprised. -OK. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
"Masc"! | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
But they also have "power bottom". | 0:03:19 | 0:03:20 | |
This is the whole thing, isn't it? | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
This is what the whole scene has been broken down to - | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
you're either that or that. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
There is no in-between. If you're masculine, | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
you're going to be the top, you're going be the one doing the fucking. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
And if you a power bottom, you're a sissy boy. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
You're a queer, you're a poof and you're going to be ploughed. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
You're minimised to a sexual act, that's your identity. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
"Penetrate me. I am nothing more." | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
In the act of stereotyping, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:48 | |
there's a clear message in the gay community that masculinity | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
is highly prized and femininity is unattractive. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
I identify myself as a male and I'm gay. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
I am a guy that likes to be really feminine, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
I like to experiment with different things. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
I have always been this feminine guy. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Getting myself ready and heading out, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
it kind of boosts my confidence, actually, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:14 | |
to wear make-up, because I just feel like I'm not the same | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
as everyone else. I look different. I have my own unique style. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
Growing up, it was kind of like wrong to be gay. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
So I didn't really fit in. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
So when I hear comments such as "faggot", | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
or "gay", "queer", all of those, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
it does take me back to my school days, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
where life was hard and I was still trying to find myself. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Femme-shaming is when you bash people for being | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
really, really, really feminine. It happens in the gay community A LOT. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
I have experienced being femme-shamed, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
but still I walk with my head high and I still strut my stuff | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
like nobody's business. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
So tell me about your identity. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
I think of myself as a femme tornado. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
Being me is a full-time job. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:07 | |
-OK! -I put so much work in, like, getting my hair done, you know, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
spending money on make-up, spending money on my hair, skin, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
and I've always wore really feminine clothes as well, so... | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
the tighter, the more revealing, the better, to be honest. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
What kind of guy, do you think, is sort of like the most attractive, | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
in terms of the gay scene? | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
It's probably the straight-acting ones. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I don't fit in because most of them don't really like feminine guys. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
I have been told so many times, with the way I am so feminine, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
the way I'm so camp, that I give gay people a bad name. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
So, like, I don't fit in with the normal crowds, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
but then I stand out from, like, the gay community. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
Is it harder for you to find love, then? | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
I would definitely say it's harder, especially when I go out | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
and I'm wearing, like, batty riders and stuff... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
-What's a batty rider? -Batty riders are shorts that are, like, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
with your bum cheeks hanging out. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:55 | |
-Oh, "batty", like arse? -Batty riders, yeah. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
-OK. -You can basically see your arse. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Do you think the guys in the gay community who are a little bit | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
more masculine see you as lesser in any way? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
Oh, yeah, definitely. Because, you know, we're feminine. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
You know, we're apparently trannies, which is not true, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
because at the end of the day, I don't want to have a sex change. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I just like having long hair. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
And I like experimenting with my make-up and looking different. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:22 | |
Being gay is a sexuality, it's not a personality. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
And every single guy has a right to be | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
what they want and how they want to be. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
So I don't understand why we have so many labels | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
in the gay community. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:33 | |
When you walk out onto the scene, say, into a nightclub, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
what kind of reception do you get from guys? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
I've had people come up and say, "You do know you're a boy, right?" | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
And I'm like, "Yeah." And they're like, "You're not a drag queen. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
"Are you trying to transition?" | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
I'm like, "No." I try to make everyone like me, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
but sometimes I do come across as | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
a bitch and a shady queen - which I love. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
I mean, so? Be honest is the best policy. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
But, um, no, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
I definitely feel like sometimes my personality is a way for me | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
to hide behind, like, the hurt that I've been through. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
When I was in high school, I was bullied out of high school, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
actually, for being gay and being really feminine. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
You know, I had people call me names, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
I had people trying to rob me, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
I had people, you know, beating me up all because I was... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
-Physically beating you up? -Yes, physically. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
So I decided upon myself to drop out of high school. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
I had the exact same thing in school, but I was lucky because... | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
..I would sometimes pass as straight, as a younger kid. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
But that's because I would try and butch it up. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
Constantly butching it up, make sure you don't give the gay away. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Did you ever have that, where you tried to... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
It would never work because I'm way too feminine. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
As soon as I opened my mouth, like, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
people would clock on and be like, "Oh, you're gay, aren't you?" | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
So, yeah. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Has it impacted your life, the fact that you had to leave school early? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
Has it made things harder for you? | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
I feel like when you have GCSEs, you have a better chance in life. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
I feel like I was robbed of my future when I was in school. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Femme-shaming and stuff like that, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
it does bring back memories of me being a child. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
We should be kind of coming together as one big family | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
and kind of fighting off the homophobes. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
Instead we're fighting with each other. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
Jamal has had to become so resilient over the years, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
from so much of that heavy, heavy femme-shaming. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
And it's shocking to think that the one community | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
that's doing this mostly to him is his own. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Us gays. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
I don't understand. You'd think that after all we've been through, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
that we would be the most accepting bunch out there. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
Femininity is frowned upon. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
-Yes. -So much! | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
And it infuriates me because obviously, like, I'm quite feminine. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
I feel like feminine gay people are at the bottom of the list, 1,000%. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
I've even had comments such as feminine gay guys | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
are the gays that give gay people a bad name. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
Some masculine men, they're like, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
"Oh, why are you dressing like that? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
"Why are you looking like that? You're meant to look like this." | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
The iconic gay body, well, we all know that. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
It's sexy muscle boy and all this... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Oh, six-packs, eight-packs, um, tall, um, masculine. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
Very toned, muscular. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
Sort of overtly, kind of sometimes comically masculine bodies. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Tight tops, big muscles. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
That's the sort of things that I see a lot of. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
Gay men are their own worst enemy | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
within the community when it comes to body image. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
So I have some news. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
As part of this documentary... | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
I'm going to be doing a naked photo shoot - wahey! | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
It's for Gay Times Magazine | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
and a feature that they're doing on body image, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
and I am terrified. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
You know, we're constantly fed these images on Instagram, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
through the media, everywhere online, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
of the perfect body and what that is. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
And it subconsciously makes you think | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
that you need to have that body. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
So I guess... | 0:10:09 | 0:10:10 | |
I am worried about thousands of people seeing my body, in the buff, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
as it is right now, and I feel compelled to go to the gym. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
I'm sorry, I just don't feel comfortable getting naked as it is. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
I just feel like I need to tighten up a little bit. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Is that OK? | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Morning! So, before I have any breakfast, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I'm having half the juice of a lemon. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
It speeds up your metabolism, clears out your lymphatic system. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:48 | |
Here's to a lovely body! | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
OK, it's dinner time. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Nice, spicy, garlicky chicken, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
some stir-fried broccoli and I have actually toasted those cashews. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Ohh, look at that. Boom. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
Carrot sticks... | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
hummus. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:20 | |
No wine. No gin. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Which is really, really hard for me. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
Eggs, broccoli, chicken breast and basil pesto with olive oil. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
Get them healthy fats, yo. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Just got my hair cut. Dinner tonight, I'm having sea bass. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Dandelion tea. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
And...that's it. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Why dandelion tea, I hear you ask? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
Because apparently... | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
it helps with water retention. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
I don't know if I have water retention, | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
but I don't want to take any risks. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
So I am here in south London to visit | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
a male-focused inclusive gym, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
to find out where that pressure for gay men | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
to have a perfect body actually comes from. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Personal trainer Stephen is going to show me around. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
Right, the chest is always a very popular thing. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
For the gays. Oh, tell me about it. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
As soon as I go into the gym, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:20 | |
it's the first thing, I hit these boys. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
-Really? -Yeah. -Well, let's start you off with one of the machines. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
-OK. -Give me ten. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
-That's a little tougher, isn't it? -Yeah. I like it, though. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
-"Feel the burn." -Feel the burn. And other cliches. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
STEPHEN CHUCKLES | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
-I forgot to start counting. What are we at? -Eight. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
This looks like a torture contraption. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
STEPHEN STRAINS | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
Look, it's the same size as my head! | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Amazing. I'm trying the same way you did. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-OK? -I'll get you off the ceiling. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
Look, it's pulling me above the ground! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
-OK, possibly that's a little too heavy. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
Let's drop it down to two. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Across, like that. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
-Perfect. -I like this one. -You like that one? -Yeah. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-Because you can really feel it. -Yes. -It doesn't feel wasteful. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
It's quite a heterosexual thing, actually. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
To lift the heaviest weight possible | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and outcompete the person you're training with. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
But there's no technique in that. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
Do you not think that there is a lot of competition | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
in gyms between gays, though? | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Like, "Oh, he's doing 20s on each arm." | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
I think gays are more interested in who looks better | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
in their low-cut vests than what weights they are lifting. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
Is there more of a pressure on a gay man | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
to look a certain way than there is for a heterosexual man? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
Historically, there's always been more pressure on gay men. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
Being muscular means being accepted. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
It means you get more sex. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
So this idea of going to the gym has almost become central | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
to the gay personality. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
If you want to avoid being ostracised | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
as you were when you were at school or whatever, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
then you hype up the masculinity. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
Are some feminine gay guys | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
trying to sort of suppress that or make up for that | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
by becoming these bulky muscle gods? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
Muscularity does counteract effeminate behaviour | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
from other people's perspective. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Effeminate is the thing that guys probably are naturally. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
I know I am. And I love my camp side. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
But it's not going to get you sex with the masculine guys. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
Do you think that some of this pressure that exists comes from you | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
comparing and contrasting yourself | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
to potentially who is lying in bed beside you? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Yeah. And I think we've all done it. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
You know, I've gone home with guys | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
and they've taken off their T-shirts, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
if they haven't walked in the door with their T-shirt off, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and you see this fantastic physique. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
And you compare yourself to them and think, "Am I good enough?" | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
You've actually felt that way? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-Yes. -You? | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
-Yes. -There's no hope for any of us! | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
I mean, what the fu...? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
All right, three, two, one, it's like jumping in a pool. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
So, what are you not happy with? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
-There's like a little... -Oh, I have that. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
-Look. -That little pooch there. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
I call it a papoose. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:20 | |
-A papoose. -It's a papoose of fat. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
I guess another bit that I don't like is... See that? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Oh, the back fat? Yeah, yeah, I have that. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
-Look. -You can actually grab mine like that. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
Is that an invitation? | 0:15:32 | 0:15:33 | |
-I don't want to touch you without an invitation. -No, grab it. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
RIYADH LAUGHS | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
What bits do you like then? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
I don't mind my chest when I do that. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-But only when you do that? -Only when I do that. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Actually, I like my chest when I do that. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
I like your chest when you do that. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
Yeah. So, relax. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
What do you feel about your chest now? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
I don't like the shape of it. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
What...? Describe more. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Er, I don't like the shape of it here. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
I don't have like a nice line that just sticks out, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
that has real deviation from the body. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
It's a genetic thing. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
You're not 100% happy with your own body? | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
No. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
There is a vast difference | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
between what I see and what other people see. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
If I look in the mirror one morning and I see, you know, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
less than what I want to - or more than what I want to - | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
then, yeah, it can make me unhappy with myself. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
If you feel that bad about yourself, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
depression and anxiety are natural consequences of it. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
I hope that one day I don't feel... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
I don't put myself under as much pressure. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
That's probably the best that I hope for. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
But I'm not doing this just to look good for other people. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
But I can understand that that is a big part of it. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
And I would be a liar if I said it wasn't. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Because, you know, who doesn't love that validation? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
The problem is, what is perfection? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
You're going to be constantly going around like a hamster in a loop, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
in a loop, striving for a thing you cannot get. A bit depressing. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
There's no up. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Do you get me? | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
Body image is huge. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
You want to look as good as you can. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Athletic, lean. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Like, muscular, a nice bum. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Think Tom Daley. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
To be honest, it's all gym and fitness. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Really muscly and masculine. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
You know, kind of rugged. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
I feel there's a majority of gay men out there that are like spending | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
their lives at the gym because they know it's going to, like, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
attract who they want to attract. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
I think that's a problem | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
because beauty doesn't solve anybody's problem. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
-It's the community that is making things worse for itself. -Right. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
Because they're constantly having to | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
live up to the stereotype or this image, or... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
-And it's just so tiring after a while. -Yeah. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
But... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:04 | |
You know, we all come in different shapes and sizes. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
I moved to London just over six years ago. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
It was quite difficult coming out at 16, living up north. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
I feel people's attitudes are different | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
and that made it more difficult. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
The bulimia took effect when I was about 17, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
but I would say I had issues with my body image | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
and how I looked before that. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
Within a year or two, it was full-blown | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
and pretty much lasted for the next nine or ten years. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
It's difficult to explain exactly what the motivation was, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
I suppose, behind throwing up. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
But it had a lot to do with how I looked. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
It's a control thing. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
I felt like for a long time it was the only thing I had control over. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
It was... | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
..very, very lonely. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
To be honest, I don't know how I survived. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
With the community putting so much emphasis on how you look, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
it's no surprise that gay men are three times more likely | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
to suffer from an eating disorder than straight men. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
'I'm on my way to meet Rye, a 26-year-old man...' | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
-Hiya. -'..who suffered from his own | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
'eating disorder for ten years.' | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
Do you think the gay community in general is quite judgmental? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:42 | |
Yeah. I think it's very judgmental. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I almost feel that, as a gay guy, it's harder to please other gays | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
than it is the rest of society sometimes. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
What things must a gay man do to fit in? | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
A lot of it is based on looks. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
If you don't kind of conform to certain things, then, you know, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
you're not going to be accepted. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
And then, when you look at other guys who are already fitting into | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
those stereotype and tribes, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
and everyone looks like they're having fun and accepting everyone, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
why wouldn't you think, if I act like that, or if I look like that, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
I'm going to be included. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
I wanted to fit in. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
So I thought, "What kind of is the most achievable?" | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
So obviously me being young, it would be kind of what we call | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
-like the kind of slim twink. -Twinks? -Yeah. -Right. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
So in this period of adjusting myself and becoming the twink, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:35 | |
it did more and more become about liking my body type | 0:20:35 | 0:20:40 | |
and how slim I was. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I basically developed an eating disorder. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
So...I was still eating, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
but I was starting to throw up meals and vomit. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
It started off slow but eventually it was every day. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
It becomes ingrained. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
It's everyday life. | 0:20:58 | 0:20:59 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Are you sucking in here? | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I think I'm tensing. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
-But you can see... -It's so skinny! | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-Look at the hip. -Your hipbones. -My hip sticks right out | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
and my ribs were sticking right out. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
If you could say something to him right now, what would you say? | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Get some help. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Really, get some help. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
And what kind of feelings or things go through your head then | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
at the worst moment, and you know you can't get out of it? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
It's isolating. Even though I had friends. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
And there were a few times people asked questions - "Are you OK? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:38 | |
"What's going on? You look sick. Are you sick?" | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
But I could never open up. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
It affects the way you interact with people. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It does affect the friendships and the fact that, you know, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
you love your friends, love your family, but you're always hiding. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
It's not just about the physical deception of maybe wearing clothes | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
or wearing make-up so you don't look sick. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
It's actually having to make lies up and... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
follow them through and remember what lies you've told people. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
It made me really low. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
In the worst times it made me suicidal. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
-It did? -Yeah. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
Those thoughts actually came into your mind? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
At what point did you think, this has gotten too far? | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
I'd been in hospital quite a few times. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
At one point I was drinking quite a lot as well. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Obviously, if I hadn't ate for a few days, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
or I have ate and I've thrown everything up, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
it's understandable that my body can't take alcohol. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
So I would have two or three glasses of wine | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and pass out and wake up in hospital. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
And the last time it was actually | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
a nurse who had already seen me in hospital. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
And she had said, "You're going to kill yourself. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
"You're going to die if it carries on." | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
And I wouldn't say that that was the moment of change, but it was... | 0:22:49 | 0:22:54 | |
..the trigger of the change to recover. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
Do you think, in the community, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
the fact that this is happening to so many people, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
is known, or even understood? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
It's like a taboo subject. People don't want to talk about it. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
And because people aren't talking about it, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
how can anyone understand it? | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
But I would be surprised if... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
..someone was able to prove that this wasn't happening | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
to a lot of guys, because I think it probably is. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
The gay community puts so much pressure on us | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
to look a certain way, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:30 | |
and Rye is a perfect example of when that pressure | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
for the perfect body goes too far. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
Although I knew there were issues in the community with this, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
I now understand that there are so many people suffering in silence. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:44 | |
It's way bigger than we ever imagined. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
People are really good at hiding it though. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
Really good. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
In a bid to raise awareness about | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
all the body image issues I've come across, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
I agreed to bare all for a photoshoot. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
And today is the day. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
So we've arrived at the studio. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
Say hi, guys. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:14 | |
Whoo! | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
This is Ryan from Gay Times. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
-Hi, Ryan. -Hi. -So, Ryan just gave me a synopsis of what's going on. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
What is it that I have to do today? | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
-Take all your clothes off. -All of them? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
-All of them. -Not even like tighty whities? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
-Not even. -Nothing, guys! | 0:24:29 | 0:24:31 | |
Fucking nothing! | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
So, this was the last naked issue for Gay Times. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Oh, my God. They're so attractive. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
It's not too posed, it's playful and it's a good way | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
-of showing your personality as well. -OK. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
The most important thing, for any photo shoot, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
doesn't matter what you're doing, is it's all about confidence. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Confidence is the key thing. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
And I reckon, give it ten minutes of the photoshoot | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
and you'll be absolutely fine. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
'I've trained, I've dieted, I've spray-tanned, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
'but Luke is going to give me a final polish and finishing touch.' | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Just take your jacket off. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
The first of many items to be removed. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
What would be your concern about doing a naked shoot? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
I just... I don't feel like it's perfect. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
But also then I realise that nothing can be perfect. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
Just stand up and take your shirt off for me. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
Lovely! Can we do this again? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
-What's this, now? -This is a bit of oil. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
I'm being oiled. I'm literally being oiled. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
LUKE LAUGHS | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
That's nice. I like that. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Do you normally contour your models' bodies? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
Some of them, yes. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
But, for the purposes of this shoot, I'm not going to do it. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
-Really? -It just needs to be you - raw, real, as it is. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
I'm feeling OK...I think. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
I am worried about getting aroused. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
Don't...don't even go there. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
So, what do we do now? | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
-Come on over. We'll do a couple of test shots and then get going. -OK. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
LAUGHTER Can someone help me? | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
No, now I need to change hands! | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
I'll keep hold of that. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
Hi! | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
OK, so take a seat. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
OK. Let's start with a couple of slightly moodier sort of looks. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
That's good. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:33 | |
Perfect. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
Stripped bare, this leap of faith | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
is about so much more than a pretty photo. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Perfect. That's good. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
I've been handed the chance to highlight issues | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
in the gay community about the body image pressures people feel, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
which, for some, lead to very dark places. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
But, for everyone I've met, these issues have led to second-guessing, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
moments of insecurity and the desire to find validation. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
Can I see any of them? It's like I have no neck. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
That's the only thing I'm noticing here. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
That's nicer. Oh, I like that one. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
I've seen a couple of the pictures and I'm really surprised. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Like, I'm really happy with them. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
My confidence is through the roof. I look like... Whoo, I don't care! | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
Standing here, in my birthday suit, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
the one thing that is absolutely clear | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
is that my body doesn't define who I am. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Can you maybe swap hands quickly? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
Do it the other way. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Sorry. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:34 | |
Good, perfect. Hold that there. Try the other way. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Let's have your other hand up with your glasses. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
OK. So, slightly moodier. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Three, two, one...go. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
Yeah, that works really well. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
Three weeks ago, I did a naked photoshoot for this magazine | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
to promote body positivity and body-love and self-love. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
Ta-da! All my God! | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
There it is there. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
Can you see that? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
A six-page spread. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
This is the next one. This is my favourite one. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
That's a nice angle, isn't it? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
Look, it's favourable lighting, I got a spray tan the night before. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
And this is the last one, on a chair. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Using my foot and my leg | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
to covertly cover my special bits. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
That's the feature. I think it's a really great read | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
because hopefully it will give you some insight into the issues | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
that exist in the community and how you can kind of | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
be more at one with your body. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
I know, after doing this, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
I have gained so much confidence in my own appearance. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
I'll chat to you in a couple of days, my loves. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:40 |