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Actor Nigel Havers divides his time between homes in London

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and Wiltshire, that he shares with his wife, Georgiana.

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This is PJ, a very nice, gentle horse.

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I love horses, really love them.

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Especially when they run fast and win me money.

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HE LAUGHS

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For over 30 years, Nigel has been one of this country's most

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recognisable and popular actors.

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From Chariots of Fire to The Charmer, and most recently

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a smooth male escort, Lewis Archer in Coronation Street.

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Gail, please don't self combust, ten minutes,

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that's all I'm asking, things aren't quite how you imagine them.

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Oh, please, you're a common crook, a scoundrel, a bounder, a cad.

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-You said so yourself.

-Huh!

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Actors are supposed to live in the present,

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"on the moment", as they say.

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So it's kind of handy for me that I don't worry about the past.

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But I have become much more reflective in the last few years.

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Because I suppose I've gone beyond the halfway mark now.

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You know I've always been sort of, er,

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spoken of as a sort of, you know a posh, you know, guy,

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always plays those sort of parts and stuff, so what I'm really

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hoping for, is that my background is not like that at all.

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This is a picture of my mother and father.

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-I wasn't around when this was taken.

-No.

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And here's a picture of my father and that's,

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that's a large whiskey in his left hand there.

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And I think probably on the television was a first

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episode of Doctor Who or something like that.

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And I'm hiding behind the sofa.

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And your eyes are very large.

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Cos it was so frightening.

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My father was, erm, a very easy going...level-tempered man.

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He became an MP as well as a barrister and served

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under Margaret Thatcher as Attorney General and then Lord Chancellor.

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-And here's, look, here's the family, erm, there's my father.

-Yeah.

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And there's my grandfather, Sir Cecil.

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My grandpa was famous for being the judge,

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the last judge to sentence a woman to be hanged,

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because he presided over the Ruth Ellis case, famous for that.

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Famous for all sorts of things in the, in, in law terms.

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As for my mother's side, I know nothing.

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My parents were not remotely interested in looking back.

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They only were looking forward.

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It's almost as if, you know

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my ancestry stopped with my grandfather, bang.

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That's all you need to know.

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To go back beyond his grandfather,

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Nigel is off to Hampshire to see his father's older brother, Tony Havers.

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My father died over 20 years ago now.

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Erm, and, but Tony's er, as fit and well, I think he's 94,

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95 and he's full of life.

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I know that obviously my father was a lawyer

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and my grandfather was a judge

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and beyond that it's never really been talked about.

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So I'm interested to see what Tony's going to tell me.

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Oh, someone's farm. That's not right.

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HE LAUGHS

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Wait a minute. We'll find it. Don't worry.

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-Nigel.

-Uncle Tony.

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-Dear boy.

-How lovely to see you, marvellous to see you.

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It's lovely to see you.

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Well that, this is a, not a surprise...

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It's a pleasure.

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-Good.

-Come on in.

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Absolutely, thank you very much.

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Did you have a good trip down?

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yeah, I did, it only took five hours.

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-It's great to see you.

-Great to see you.

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Very interesting that you've come here to see me

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because we've got here a, a very good, erm, family tree.

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-OK.

-Now here you are, Nigel.

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-Um-hm.

-Born 1951. Great, that's right?

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I'm afraid it is, yes.

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I wish I could lie about it but I can't.

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Er, you, son of, erm, Michael and Carol,

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then we move on up to Cecil Robert Havers.

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Yes.

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Much-loved in our family, in fact adored.

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We loved him, we really did.

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When I was at prep school I suddenly got this note in the post, you know.

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"Dear Nigel, I had the Beatles for tea on Thursday

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"and I got their autographs for you, enclosed."

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-Yeah.

-And there they were.

-Yeah.

-I've still got them.

-Yeah.

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-And can you imagine that at boarding school...

-Oh!

-I was the hero, you know.

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-Yeah you could have...

-Yeah, yeah amazing.

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And then we go on up further to Agnes who,

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who was married to Daniel.

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-Hm-hmm.

-That would have been your great grandmother...

-Hm-hmm.

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Great grandfather. Now we're getting, er, Nigel,

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we're now getting near the top of the tree.

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OK.

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George Buckingham. Now then have, have a good moniker at him.

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Yeah.

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Confident and, erm, a good, a good

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family maker, with 17 children.

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17, yeah.

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14 who survived. And this really is the sort of

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culmination of the whole thing.

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This was at, erm, Salisbury House,

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-which was the Buckingham main house...

-Hm.

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large house in Unthank Road, Norwich. This is George here.

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Yes.

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And this is the great child bearer, Elizabeth Buckingham

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and she was in her single life, Elizabeth Hamblion.

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Hamblion.

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And so, erm, these are the 14 children, the family.

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Now when I was about six, erm, my mum and father

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-took me to visit Elizabeth...

-Hm.

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..in her house,

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because every Sunday morning she insisted that all the family

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should attend Salisbury House.

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-Right.

-She wanted to see them.

-Oh, right.

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So we attended and we, we were lined up

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-and I was told to sit on the floor because I was only six.

-Yes.

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-So I was down here somewhere.

-Hm.

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And we waited and waited and against the wall,

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because she was up in the bedroom above and, erm,

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she got into her lift up there and her lift came down...

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-..and the doors parted.

-Yeah.

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In a wheelchair, didn't move except to have a searching

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glance from left across to the centre, over to the right.

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-Yeah.

-And she suddenly said, "Where's Geoffrey?"

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And, and Geoffrey had got, got into trouble for not coming.

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Oh!

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Dead scary.

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She sounds a pretty...

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She was a regal lady but...

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Very regal. Looks like Queen Victoria.

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-Yes, absolutely Queen Victoria.

-Yeah.

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-A long dress and lace cap.

-Yeah.

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But what's interesting, Nigel,

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is I know a lot about all those people, but the one part of the

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family tree I don't know anything about at all, is Elizabeth Hamblion.

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Er, it's a blank, a blank sheet.

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With his uncle's help, Nigel has managed to trace his father's

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line back to his great-great-grandmother, Elizabeth Hamblion.

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You end up with this woman who looks just like a sort of Queen Victoria.

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I don't know what to expect, but she does put on a grand,

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a very grand air.

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I need to know about her, I really do.

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To begin his search, Nigel has come home to London

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and ordered up Elizabeth Hamblion's birth certificate.

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Can't wait.

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So, here we are.

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It's from the Registration District of Colchester, in 1841,

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in the county of Essex.

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So that makes her, makes her an Essex girl.

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She probably didn't wear white high heels,

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probably have her hair done like that.

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But she's still an Essex bird.

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Erm, the mother,

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Elizabeth Ann Hamblion...and her father...

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..was Henry Hamblion,

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here we are, Henry Hamblion, and it says occupation of father, driver.

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Driver. A driver.

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Where does all this grandness come from, I'm wondering. Anyway.

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Let's have a look on the internet.

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I've loaded up the Census for 1841, so let's, let's put her name in.

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Birth year we know is 1841.

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OK, here we go.

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Oh! Right, there is daughter, er, Elizabeth Anne.

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She was two months old when this census was taken,

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and at the bottom, here we are, erm, let's have a look at that.

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That says Henry Hamblion, and that's the father.

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And let's just go, and he's er, and his occupation,

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does that say Hackney?

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Hackney Master.

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I think it does.

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He was a coachman of some sort, or a taxi driver.

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It looks like he was a cab driver.

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"Take me to Whitechapel please." "Certainly, Sir."

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So much for the stately home. It's time to go.

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To Essex.

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Nigel has come to Colchester to discover more about the

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profession of his great-great-great grandfather, Henry Hamblion.

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He's meeting coaching expert, Colin Porson.

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Good morning.

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Colin, thank you very much for coming,

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and we'll talk about how you're dressed in a minute,

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but, erm, I know from the census, which I've seen,

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that Henry Hamblion is a Hackney Master.

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Is that going up in the world? I don't know what it means.

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-It is going up in the world.

-Oh, good.

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But before we delve into that,

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perhaps I should just explain the outfit?

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It's a lovely outfit. Great.

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Erm, Henry was operating in the middle of the 19th

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-century as we know.

-Um-hmm.

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And, and this, this uniform is in fact that of a, erm,

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a coach guard from that period and I thought it would add

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just a bit of local colour to our conversation.

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It does, I love it, it's great.

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Now, the Hackney Master.

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-I recognise Hackney because we call our taxis in London, Hackney cabs.

-We do.

-Yeah.

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-For exactly the same...

-I thought they came from Hackney?

-But unfortunately no.

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Hackney came originally from, from an old French verb, meaning to hire.

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Oh, right. Nothing to do with Hackney at all.

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And I think that when he started, Henry was driving

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carriages for hire, much as you have black cabs today.

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But by 1841 he was obviously coming up in the world

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and by describing himself as a Hackney Master,

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-would suggest that he has drivers working for him.

-Oh!

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-He had moved into a moved into...

-Oh!

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..a more managerial, a more organisational role.

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I had this image that he was just driving his own cab.

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I think he's moved beyond that.

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-Now, The Essex Standard was...

-Yeah.

-..the local paper.

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It's, erm, 1844 now. "The Original Mews", Sir Isaac's Walk, Colchester.

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H & J Hamblion, that's Henry and...

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Jeremiah was his, his younger brother.

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Uh-huh.

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So this was a family business.

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"Beg respectfully to announce to the Ladies, Gentry, and the

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"Inhabitants of Colchester and its vicinity, that they have recently

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"added to their Establishment a number of superior Clarence and..."

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Brougham.

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"..Brougham."

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-As in sweeping.

-Yes. Brougham carriages.

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These were prestigious vehicles.

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Henry's business was, was definitely on the...

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-Yeah.

-..on the up.

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-What would they cost, these?

-I mean, you're...

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-You're probably looking at, at stretch limo...

-Yeah.

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-..money. I mean this...

-Right.

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..this would be the Bentley Continental.

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Oh, he's obviously doing well, I would say.

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-So that's all good.

-Yeah.

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He was also a Jobbed Master, someone who would hire out horses by

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themselves or horses and carriages and a coachman and a groom.

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This is a big business.

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This is a big business.

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Colin has brought with him a replica stagecoach, from the period

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when Henry Hamblion was running his carriage business.

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And here is your coach Nigel.

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This would have been coming through Colchester every day.

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So how many people does this, erm, this fit?

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We would have four people in here.

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Today it is driven by a coachman with a brakeman, two grooms

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and Colin, the guard.

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And this one goes here.

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Oh, I got that.

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-No time.

-Good, so here we are.

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HE PLAYS HORN

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That means we're going.

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-That means start.

-Start.

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And there were various standard calls that the guard would blow

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to indicate to other road users what the coach is doing.

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So, we can blow

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and clear the road.

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OK.

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Clear the road.

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HE BLOWS HORN

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Isn't that great, isn't that fantastic? I love that.

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You might release that as a CD.

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-CD.

-Yeah. And we've cleared, you've cleared the road all right, I can tell,

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look, there's nobody there at all.

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They're terrified.

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I feel very at home here actually, I do.

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By 1844, Henry Hamblion and his brother Jeremiah were hiring

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out a range of vehicles from their central Colchester stables.

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Including small fast cabs operating from the centre of town, a large

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omnibus and smart carriages serving the upper classes of Colchester.

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Nigel is meeting local historian, Patrick Denny, to find

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out where Henry and Jeremiah plied their trade.

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So...this is the high street.

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This is the ancient high street.

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So what was Colchester really like in that period?

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This is probably one of the earliest photographs we've got, it's

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-dating about 1858.

-Yeah.

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The livestock market is still in the high street.

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All the stalls, the fish stalls as far as the eye can see.

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And, and the carriages outside the fire offices where all

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-the Hackney carriages used to stand.

-Yeah.

-That could be one of Henry's...

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-Yeah.

-..carriages standing there.

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Colchester was an increasingly prosperous town in the 1840's,

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with a thriving corn market and emerging clothing industry.

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In 1843, a new railway station had been built providing Henry

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and Jeremiah with new business.

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Transporting ever more passengers from the station to the town.

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So they've got a lot of expensive carriages, horses,

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wealthy passengers

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and there was always a threat of people operating on the wrong side of the law, erm...

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Yes. ..stealing from him.

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Got a few newspaper cuttings here, one from The Ipswich Journal.

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It says "Highway robbery at Mile End."

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God, you know I never thought of highway robbery,

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I always think of that as being much, earlier...

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-Earlier on.

-Yes.

-Yeah this is, this is during Henry's time.

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"A daring highway robbery was perpetrated on the Mile End Road,

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"two miles from the town, early on Thursday morning.

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"Daniel Underwood, in the service of

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"Mr Henry Hamblion..." Here he is.

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There he is, yeah.

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"A short distance from the Dog and Pheasant public-house,

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"a man stopped the horses whilst another

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"jumped on the box of the vehicle and knocked the driver from his seat.

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"They made off with only the driver's hat and silver mounted whip,

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-"worth 15 shillings."

-Yes.

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That's a lot of money then?

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That is, 15 shillings. We've got another one actually.

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"On Thursday the 23rd, a man hired a horse

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"and gig at the stables of Messrs Hamblion..."

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There we are.

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"..of this town, under pretence of going to Bentley in Suffolk,

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"but instead of which he was seen soon afterwards driving

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"in the opposite direction and was traced to Braintree; and

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"neither the individual nor the horse and gig has since been heard of.

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"A reward is offered for his apprehension."

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But this is a worry for

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-Henry isn't it, I mean...

-Yeah.

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..his reputation is at stake in terms of people thinking,

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well, do we go with him,

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-he's been burgled, maybe we...

-That's right.

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-And if it happens too often of course his business could be at risk.

-Yeah.

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-Er, totally.

-So this is a serious thing.

-I think so, yes.

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To find out how Henry protected his business,

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Nigel's meeting 19th century crime expert, Professor Peter King.

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Peter, er,

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I'm aware that my ancestor, Henry Hamblion, erm,

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had had some trouble with highway robbery and other crimes.

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How, how could you deal with that, how could you prevent these

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things happening because it could be very serious?

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Well, that's why we've brought you here.

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Er, because the association that helped to solve that problem

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their records are here in this solicitor's office,

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-so let's have a look.

-OK.

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Here we've got the, erm, minute book,

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this is of the Colchester Association.

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"At the annual meeting of the members of the Colchester

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"Association held at the Town Hall, Colchester on Tuesday 5th May 1846."

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"After dinner at the 3 Cups Hotel,

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"the following new subscribers were elected."

0:18:530:18:56

There he is.

0:19:010:19:02

-Henry Hamblion. So he's now part of this...

-Yeah.

0:19:020:19:05

-..Colchester Association.

-He, his brother,

0:19:050:19:07

his brother Jeremiah joined a couple of years later.

0:19:070:19:10

Right.

0:19:100:19:11

So they were... the partners were both in there.

0:19:110:19:14

We've got a poster here from just a few years earlier, 1842.

0:19:140:19:18

Oh, this is a little bit before my ancestor joined.

0:19:180:19:21

Yes, yes.

0:19:210:19:22

A fantastic poster.

0:19:220:19:24

"Subscribers to the Colchester Association for the protection

0:19:240:19:27

"of property and the prosecution of housebreakers and thieves."

0:19:270:19:31

Yeah, it was called 'The Thieves Association',

0:19:310:19:33

interestingly, so Henry has just joined

0:19:330:19:35

the thieves in fact. And...

0:19:350:19:37

It says here, "No trouble or expense will be spared in detecting

0:19:370:19:41

"offenders and bringing them to justice."

0:19:410:19:44

And look, and look, the Mayor's involved.

0:19:440:19:46

-Yeah, the Mayor, the big noises are probably in there.

-Yeah.

0:19:460:19:49

-Including the MP.

-Oh, yes.

0:19:490:19:51

And a couple of MD's.

0:19:510:19:53

They were lawyers, tradesmen, shopkeepers,

0:19:530:19:57

the classic middle and upper middle class, you know.

0:19:570:20:00

This is a voluntary association,

0:20:000:20:01

they create a communal fund from which they can then, er...

0:20:010:20:05

-Protect themselves.

-..can be used. Yeah...

0:20:050:20:07

Can they arrest people themselves, can they go up and...?

0:20:070:20:09

No, no, they can't, they have to use the existing police force

0:20:090:20:12

and the policing of the, of the town is still very rudimentary.

0:20:120:20:17

Modern policing was in its infancy in the 1840's.

0:20:170:20:20

And it wasn't until 1856 that a nationally-funded

0:20:200:20:24

and government-regulated police force was introduced.

0:20:240:20:28

Before this, associations like 'The Thieves', could pay local

0:20:280:20:32

officers to prioritise their cases and pursue criminals.

0:20:320:20:36

By joining 'The Thieves', Henry was not only eligible for these

0:20:360:20:40

privileges, he also gained the kudos of being part of Colchester's

0:20:400:20:45

business establishment.

0:20:450:20:46

So, he's sort of making it now, isn't he? He's got

0:20:470:20:50

a good business going, he's enough money to join the association

0:20:500:20:53

with, along with all these, you know, respected people.

0:20:530:20:56

His brother-in-law.

0:20:560:20:58

So the two of them are really, you know,

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basically, they're going up in the world, aren't they?

0:21:000:21:02

And four years after they joined 'The Thieves',

0:21:020:21:04

something else happens which has an interesting turn of events.

0:21:040:21:07

"Notice is hereby given, that the

0:21:090:21:11

"Partnership subsisting between Henry Hamblion

0:21:110:21:14

"and Jeremiah Hamblion is this, this day dissolved by mutual consent."

0:21:140:21:19

-May 9th 1850.

-And...

0:21:190:21:21

Which means that Jeremiah is no longer part of the business?

0:21:210:21:25

-I wonder why?

-We've got a couple of clues we'd like to show you.

0:21:250:21:28

-Oh, I see.

-And this is from The Essex Standard...

0:21:280:21:30

-Yes, I know The Essex Standard, yes.

-The local rag.

0:21:300:21:32

"Charge of furious driving." oh, God!

0:21:320:21:35

-"Against Jeremiah Hamblion." Right.

-Hm.

0:21:350:21:39

"William Dines was driving a fresh broken colt on the Lexden Road

0:21:390:21:43

-"accompanied by a complainant."

-By the complainant.

0:21:430:21:45

"When they were followed for some distance by a van."

0:21:450:21:48

By a van?

0:21:480:21:49

"Driven by the defendant, who ultimately passed the other

0:21:490:21:52

"vehicle and as it was alleged, he hallooed, he hallooed

0:21:520:21:57

"so as to cause the colt to take fright and become reactive..."

0:21:570:22:00

Now that's not good, is it?

0:22:000:22:01

So he's obviously, you know, he's a bit of a lad, this guy.

0:22:010:22:04

There's a bit of road rage going on here. Oh, yeah.

0:22:040:22:06

And we have another document suggesting that Jeremiah was

0:22:060:22:09

quite capable of hitting the news more than once.

0:22:090:22:11

Oh, God, er, "County Court October 13th. Action for wilful damage.

0:22:120:22:17

"Sarah Mills, fish dealer, versus Jeremiah Hamblion.

0:22:170:22:20

"The plaintiff stated that she was keeping an oyster

0:22:200:22:23

"stall in the fish market when Mr Hamblion, who had

0:22:230:22:27

"plenty of room to pass, drove against her stall and upset it."

0:22:270:22:31

HE LAUGHS

0:22:310:22:33

Oh!

0:22:330:22:34

"She cried out, for God's sake, you'll kill me,

0:22:340:22:37

"as the shafts of the barrow" I don't know why I'm laughing.

0:22:370:22:40

"struck her leg, but Mr Hamblion,

0:22:400:22:42

"making use of some abusive language,

0:22:420:22:45

"said, he didn't care what he did and took no notice of her.

0:22:450:22:49

"Her leg was badly injured and being in the family way..."

0:22:490:22:52

-Yeah, she was pregnant as well.

-I don't know why I'm laughing, He's a bit of a lad, isn't he?

0:22:520:22:56

It's a pregnant woman and he's taking her out... he's taking her out.

0:22:560:22:59

Having looked at this, I mean you're an expert at this,

0:22:590:23:01

do you think that's why they sort of split up?

0:23:010:23:03

If you got a, a furious driving brother and you're running

0:23:030:23:07

a company like this, it's not going to do your reputation very much good.

0:23:070:23:10

I was intrigued by it, the problem Henry had with, with er,

0:23:120:23:15

his brother.

0:23:150:23:17

But I think it's right that Henry decided that maybe he should go

0:23:170:23:21

and do something else.

0:23:210:23:23

So now he's lost his business partner, erm,

0:23:230:23:25

where does that leave him?

0:23:250:23:28

Nigel is meeting business historian,

0:23:280:23:30

Dr Terry Gourvish at 15 Queen Street.

0:23:300:23:33

A house in front of the site that was formerly Henry Hamblin's

0:23:330:23:37

livery stables.

0:23:370:23:38

So far I know that, erm, Henry...

0:23:390:23:41

-Um-hmm.

-..has gone it on his own.

0:23:410:23:44

I'd like to know what happens next.

0:23:440:23:46

-OK, well, right, well that was in 1850 I think...

-Hm.

0:23:460:23:48

and this is the 1851 census.

0:23:480:23:51

Right.

0:23:510:23:52

And so we've got, we've got Henry here, who's head of the house at 37.

0:23:520:23:57

-Er, and it says Inn Keeper.

-Hm.

0:23:570:24:00

What, what happened to the, erm, the horses and stables?

0:24:010:24:05

Oh, I think he kept those.

0:24:050:24:06

Oh, so he's really doing, doing well indeed, isn't he?

0:24:060:24:09

Yes, it's a diversification.

0:24:090:24:10

Fantastic, good for him. Elizabeth, wife.

0:24:100:24:15

Yes.

0:24:150:24:17

Rosanna, daughter, aged 12.

0:24:170:24:20

-And, and it says she has an occupation at 12 of...

-It's crossed out.

0:24:200:24:23

It's been crossed out, but it does actually say barmaid.

0:24:230:24:26

Barmaid.

0:24:260:24:28

Barmaid.

0:24:280:24:30

Right, would you, do you fancy a pint.

0:24:300:24:32

All that going on, she's a proper, behind the bar at 12?

0:24:320:24:36

Yes well, that wasn't uncommon...

0:24:360:24:38

in 1851.

0:24:380:24:40

OK. Elizabeth, daughter.

0:24:400:24:42

-Now Elizabeth, erm, I've seen a photograph of her.

-Oh, right.

0:24:420:24:45

-My uncle Tony, who's 95, showed me this...

-Oh!

0:24:450:24:48

..very grand lady sitting,

0:24:480:24:49

looking like a miniature Queen Victoria, very, very grand.

0:24:490:24:52

So that's her there, aged 10.

0:24:520:24:55

In the Brewers Arms.

0:24:550:24:56

In the Brewers Arms. She wouldn't have told many people that.

0:24:560:24:59

-I'm not sure she would.

-No he's doing fine.

0:24:590:25:01

He is doing fine, yes that's right.

0:25:010:25:02

-He's diversifying, that's great isn't it?

-Yes.

0:25:020:25:04

I mean, that's what people should do. And then...

0:25:040:25:07

You've got something else here?

0:25:070:25:08

Well, this is, they have to go forward some years.

0:25:080:25:10

"October 5th 1864."

0:25:100:25:13

So a "Mr Henry Hamblion begs to inform the public he's taken

0:25:130:25:17

"the business of Railway and General Carrying."

0:25:170:25:20

So that means he's taken over a different sort of business?

0:25:200:25:23

Indeed so.

0:25:230:25:25

And not carrying the public, carrying...

0:25:250:25:27

-Carrying goods, yes...

-Goods.

-..merchandise.

0:25:270:25:30

Er, and taking it to the railway station.

0:25:300:25:33

The rail network expanded even further in the 1860's.

0:25:340:25:38

With over 4,000 miles of new track.

0:25:380:25:41

Money could be make ferrying goods to and from the station

0:25:410:25:44

and around town.

0:25:440:25:45

By adding general carrying to his other businesses,

0:25:470:25:50

Henry would be competing with established

0:25:500:25:52

firms like Pickford's for lucrative contracts with the railways.

0:25:520:25:55

He's making loads of money, doing really well.

0:25:570:25:59

-Yes, so we might think.

-Yeah.

0:25:590:26:02

However, er, I have this document to show you.

0:26:020:26:05

Right.

0:26:050:26:06

And this is barely two years later.

0:26:060:26:08

Erm, "Henry Hamblion, of

0:26:080:26:10

"Colchester, in the county of Essex, licensed victualler

0:26:100:26:12

"and late a Common Carrier, and livery stable keeper,

0:26:120:26:17

"having been adjudged bankrupt."

0:26:170:26:19

Oh, right.

0:26:190:26:21

So he's gone, he's gone bust.

0:26:210:26:24

Yes, yes within two years of acquiring that carrying business.

0:26:240:26:28

Oh, dear.

0:26:300:26:31

Well, it was, it was all going so well, he was expanding.

0:26:370:26:40

Becoming more of an entrepreneur.

0:26:400:26:43

And then he hit me with this bombshell that,

0:26:430:26:45

that he'd gone bankrupt a few, literally a few years later.

0:26:450:26:50

And...it was a real hammer blow.

0:26:500:26:55

And I've got to find out why, what happened.

0:26:550:26:58

How this big business has just gone down the tubes.

0:26:580:27:00

Nigel has come to meet bankruptcy expert, Dr Katherine McMillan.

0:27:020:27:05

Katherine, thank you so much for seeing me.

0:27:080:27:10

-Hello.

-Nice to meet you.

-Nice to meet you.

0:27:100:27:12

Oh, now, first of all, how bad was it to go bankrupt in 1860,

0:27:120:27:17

whatever it was?

0:27:170:27:18

-From a social perspective...

-Hm.

0:27:180:27:20

..a respected man like Henry, this is, attracts a huge moral stigma.

0:27:200:27:25

And it's a huge reverse for this man.

0:27:250:27:27

So what happens to you, basically?

0:27:270:27:29

This is a report from The Essex Standard.

0:27:290:27:32

The Essex Standard, it comes up a lot.

0:27:320:27:34

OK, this is about Hamblion, Colchester.

0:27:340:27:38

"Who came to the court on his own petition on the 20th October

0:27:380:27:41

"last, attributing his failure to, losses in business."

0:27:410:27:45

Something has gone wrong in the common carrier business.

0:27:450:27:48

Yes, you know, I mean it, there was something about,

0:27:490:27:52

he knew how to run the yard and, and the horses and the carriages,

0:27:520:27:56

but suddenly he wanted to branch out.

0:27:560:27:58

Maybe that's what happened?

0:27:580:28:00

That may well have been too much.

0:28:000:28:02

-He didn't know that business.

-Yes.

0:28:020:28:03

Too much competition?

0:28:030:28:05

It's entirely possible. It's a competitive industry.

0:28:050:28:07

So "losses in business and my having some surety for my son-in-law."

0:28:070:28:11

So who is this son-in-law?

0:28:110:28:13

Well, we answer that by looking at this, er, marriage certificate.

0:28:130:28:18

Here's Henry's daughter, her name is Rosina,

0:28:190:28:23

I know on the census I saw, she was described as a barmaid.

0:28:230:28:27

Yes.

0:28:270:28:29

-She grew up quite fast, this girl.

-Yes.

0:28:290:28:31

Marrying John Hum. He's a builder.

0:28:310:28:35

And in acting as a surety,

0:28:360:28:38

what Henry was doing was assuming a liability.

0:28:380:28:41

-He's a guarantor, basically?

-It's a form of guarantor.

0:28:410:28:44

By acting as a surety for John Hum, Henry was not only liable for

0:28:450:28:49

his own business debts, but also for a large part of his son-in-law's.

0:28:490:28:53

John has problems shortly before, erm,

0:28:550:28:59

Henry has filed his own petition for bankruptcy.

0:28:590:29:02

-Oh, this is in August.

-Yes.

-Whereas that was in October.

0:29:020:29:06

"So John F Hum,

0:29:060:29:07

"builder of Colchester was brought up from the county gaol."

0:29:070:29:10

Yes.

0:29:100:29:11

"As a prisoner for debt."

0:29:110:29:13

Right, so he's been sent down for not paying his debt?

0:29:140:29:18

Yes.

0:29:180:29:19

Now John Hum, I presume he's going to have children?

0:29:190:29:22

John does have children at this point, erm...

0:29:220:29:25

Ah now, that'll be one reason why my ancestor was keen to make

0:29:250:29:31

-sure that he didn't get into, you know...

-Yes.

0:29:310:29:34

..was a, acted as, as a surety for him.

0:29:340:29:37

Yes, yes.

0:29:370:29:38

Because he was protecting his, his eldest daughter.

0:29:380:29:41

-Would be very natural for a father to step in...

-Absolutely.

0:29:410:29:44

..in those circumstances to assist his daughter

0:29:440:29:46

and to assist his grandchildren.

0:29:460:29:48

The collapse of his own business and his attempt to

0:29:490:29:52

cover his builder son-in-law's debts led to Henry's ruin.

0:29:520:29:56

But unlike John Hum, Henry avoided prison by voluntarily

0:29:560:30:01

filing for bankruptcy and declaring all his debts.

0:30:010:30:04

We have a final, erm, entry here, erm,

0:30:060:30:12

in the Court of Bankruptcy.

0:30:120:30:15

"Re Henry Hamblion.

0:30:150:30:16

"The bankrupt, he can't show creditors holding security, £8,460."

0:30:160:30:23

-Yes. That's an enormous sum.

-Yeah.

0:30:230:30:26

It's equivalent probably to about £2.5 million today.

0:30:260:30:29

Henry handed over his considerable fortune in an attempt to pay off

0:30:310:30:35

his debts, which amounted to more than £2.5 million in today's money.

0:30:350:30:40

What a shame

0:30:400:30:41

to build all this up and then have it all go so horribly wrong.

0:30:410:30:46

Hm, what a shame, eh?

0:30:480:30:49

I'm sort of shattered by Henry's downfall, to be honest.

0:30:540:30:58

Erm, and just that, the amount of money that was involved in this.

0:30:580:31:02

Nigel has gone online to see

0:31:090:31:10

if he can discover what happened to Henry after his bankruptcy.

0:31:100:31:14

Hang on, let's just go to the top,

0:31:190:31:21

this is from The Essex Standard, Friday 17th February 1871.

0:31:210:31:25

So, we've now gone on, '66, '67, four years later.

0:31:250:31:31

Right..."The Provident Asylum Society, a special meeting of the

0:31:320:31:39

"members of this useful institution, the next business was to consider

0:31:390:31:42

"the claim of Mr Henry Hamblion, be admitted on the Foundation to

0:31:420:31:47

"receive the usual benefits, much commiseration was shown towards Mr

0:31:470:31:50

"Hamblion in his present affliction, was unanimously elected."

0:31:500:31:54

What does that mean in Victorian times? Provident Asylum Society.

0:31:580:32:02

well, I know, there are two things,

0:32:040:32:06

it might be that his affliction is that he's still got no money, but

0:32:060:32:09

er, commiseration shown towards his present affliction, maybe there's

0:32:090:32:13

something actually gone wrong with him, this is driving him a bit mad.

0:32:130:32:17

The first priority is to find out what happened to Henry, er,

0:32:170:32:19

also I need to find out what happened to my ancestor,

0:32:190:32:21

Elizabeth, who must be, she was 10 in 51, she must be in her 20's.

0:32:210:32:27

Nigel hopes that local historian, Andrew Phillips, can help him

0:32:300:32:33

make sense of Henry's circumstances.

0:32:330:32:36

-This is from The Essex Standard.

-Uh-huh.

0:32:360:32:38

Er, your local paper.

0:32:380:32:40

I need you to tell me what the Provident Asylum Society is?

0:32:400:32:44

The Provident Asylum Society was set up for people of business

0:32:440:32:50

and professional people to, er, pay an annual

0:32:500:32:56

subscription against the possibility that disaster might come their way.

0:32:560:33:01

So a little security. So you do this in case your...

0:33:010:33:04

-Oh, absolutely.

-..business fails.

0:33:040:33:05

And Henry was bright enough to think,

0:33:050:33:08

-"Just in case this goes wrong, I'm going to pay into this."

-That's right.

0:33:080:33:11

OK. He had the foresight to anticipate, and to cover himself.

0:33:110:33:16

He was now eligible to the usual benefits and they weren't nothing

0:33:160:33:22

because behind us stands, in fact, the Provident Asylum Society.

0:33:220:33:27

Oh, wow, it's very attractive houses.

0:33:270:33:29

Indeed.

0:33:290:33:30

So he has a roof over his head.

0:33:300:33:32

Self help societies were common in Victorian England.

0:33:340:33:38

There was no welfare state, and if a family fell on hard times,

0:33:380:33:42

it risked ending up in the workhouse.

0:33:420:33:45

But prudent businessmen like Henry could pay into a private

0:33:450:33:48

fund like the Provident Asylum Society,

0:33:480:33:51

ensuring him against poverty and homelessness.

0:33:510:33:55

-He's doing fine.

-Yes, he's doing great.

0:33:550:33:57

I mean, he could start again, you know, he could start another business.

0:33:570:34:00

Yes, but hang on, they were sympathising with his affliction.

0:34:000:34:03

Yes.

0:34:030:34:04

What does that suggest to you?

0:34:040:34:05

That he might not be very well.

0:34:050:34:07

-Oh, dear, oh, dear. Er, it's a death certificate.

-Uh-huh.

0:34:110:34:16

1871...let me just, one second, let me just look at this.

0:34:160:34:23

This was February 17th 1871.

0:34:230:34:26

March, so a month later he dies of, it says here, er,

0:34:260:34:32

the cause of death, "diseased heart certified."

0:34:320:34:37

-So he had a heart attack in other words, probably.

-Probably.

0:34:370:34:41

So the probability is he

0:34:410:34:42

was packing up almost to move in and had a...

0:34:420:34:46

Yeah.

0:34:460:34:47

-Oh, dear. He never made it.

-What about the family?

0:34:470:34:50

-Ah!

-Does he say?

-The small print. Here we are, rule 12.

0:34:500:34:54

Ah, "Widows of Members.

0:34:540:34:55

"In the event of the death of a Member of the Foundation,

0:34:550:34:59

"who was a married man at the time of his admission,

0:34:590:35:01

"his widow shall continue to reside in the house, rent and tax free."

0:35:010:35:06

-Oh, that's good, so he was really smart, wasn't he?

-Yeah.

0:35:060:35:09

-He put aside and paid for this...

-Yeah.

0:35:090:35:11

..in case something happened and,

0:35:110:35:13

and show what a wonderful man he was in many, many ways.

0:35:130:35:16

But tell me, I really want to know what happened to my,

0:35:160:35:18

my direct ancestor, Elizabeth junior, so to speak.

0:35:180:35:21

I know.

0:35:210:35:22

But I last came across her, she was, erm, 10 years old.

0:35:220:35:26

We roll forward a further ten years to 1881.

0:35:260:35:30

-Yeah.

-And I have here, a copy of the census.

0:35:300:35:35

Oh, here's a man called George Buckingham.

0:35:350:35:37

-And...

-Elizabeth.

0:35:390:35:40

He's a shoe manufacturer.

0:35:420:35:44

Was does that say, I can't see what that says?

0:35:440:35:46

Employing...

0:35:460:35:48

50 men. Oh, he's a big... big time.

0:35:480:35:50

That's a significant size shoe factory.

0:35:500:35:53

Oh, we've got to where Elizabeth is married to Buckingham.

0:35:530:35:55

-Yeah.

-My uncle Tony...

-Yeah.

0:35:550:35:58

..went and had lunch, when he was six, with those two.

0:35:580:36:03

-Really?

-Yes.

0:36:030:36:04

And so we've, we've now come... the whole circle has now joined up.

0:36:040:36:09

The circle of life.

0:36:090:36:10

But, erm, it occurs to me,

0:36:100:36:13

behind us, erm, Henry's wife, Elizabeth is still living here.

0:36:130:36:16

-That's right.

-So...

0:36:160:36:18

And, and she lived long after his death.

0:36:180:36:21

To the age of 79.

0:36:210:36:23

Oh, wow, that's good.

0:36:230:36:24

And she died in this house, er, 1892.

0:36:240:36:28

And she was buried with him in Colchester Cemetery.

0:36:280:36:33

Ah!

0:36:330:36:34

Oh, look at this.

0:36:450:36:46

"In memory of Henry Hamblion, who died March 17th 1871,

0:36:540:36:58

"aged 56 years."

0:36:580:37:00

"Also of Elizabeth Hamblion."

0:37:020:37:04

"Wife of the above, died December 28th 1892, aged 79."

0:37:050:37:11

Well...they're together.

0:37:110:37:14

And here we are in, in Henry's graveyard, having gone through,

0:37:170:37:22

you know, such hard times himself.

0:37:220:37:25

Losing all his fortune...

0:37:250:37:26

..but caring for his family and then dying suddenly at 56 years old.

0:37:280:37:33

Hard, really.

0:37:330:37:34

When Uncle Tony showed me

0:37:370:37:39

that picture of Elizabeth, Henry's daughter,

0:37:390:37:43

looking like a sort of copy of Queen Victoria, erm, I wondered

0:37:430:37:48

what sort of a woman she was and where she'd come from.

0:37:480:37:51

And now that I know,

0:37:510:37:53

she must have watched her father go through the ups and downs of life.

0:37:530:37:57

She wasn't from a great money or titled background,

0:37:570:38:00

she'd grown up the hard way.

0:38:000:38:01

I'll look at that photograph again and I'll see a woman who's,

0:38:030:38:06

you know, survived all that.

0:38:060:38:08

Having explored his father's ancestry,

0:38:160:38:18

Nigel is turning to his mother's side.

0:38:180:38:20

His mother Carol has a sister, Amanda, who lives in Hertfordshire.

0:38:200:38:24

Now we're off to see my Auntie Amanda, Amanda Lay.

0:38:250:38:30

I don't know what she knows about my family history, I have no idea.

0:38:310:38:35

But I know from experience that, that she's very, erm,

0:38:370:38:43

up for a lark, as they say.

0:38:430:38:45

My mother's side of the family is a complete mystery to me

0:38:460:38:49

and this is a whole section of the family I really

0:38:490:38:51

know nothing about.

0:38:510:38:53

Nigel has arranged to meet his aunt, Amanda Lay, at her local pub.

0:38:570:39:01

Auntie Mans, as I live and breathe.

0:39:030:39:05

Hello.

0:39:070:39:08

SHE LAUGHS

0:39:080:39:10

-Lovely to see you.

-Well, it is.

0:39:100:39:14

Who'd ever believe we'd be sitting in a pub talking about, well...

0:39:140:39:17

Family.

0:39:170:39:18

..family. Are we posh, or not really?

0:39:180:39:21

-No.

-No.

0:39:210:39:22

She said defensively. No.

0:39:220:39:25

I just wanted to know, that's all?

0:39:250:39:28

-I do know that, that is a photograph...

-Yes.

0:39:280:39:30

..of my grandfather, who of course I never met.

0:39:300:39:32

Whose name was?

0:39:320:39:34

-Stuart...

-Stuart.

-..Charles Lay.

0:39:340:39:35

Stuart Charles Lay.

0:39:350:39:37

I was told that he worked in the city.

0:39:370:39:39

That isn't actually true, he worked, erm, he owned a laundry.

0:39:410:39:45

He owned a laundry?

0:39:450:39:46

-Yes. And...

-He owned a laundry.

0:39:460:39:49

It must have been quite a profitable laundry?

0:39:490:39:50

-It, I think it was.

-OK.

0:39:500:39:52

But you definitely know this person because, er, that was his wife.

0:39:520:39:56

My grandmother.

0:39:560:39:57

That is grandma. And er, she was Irene Wackett.

0:39:570:40:02

I never knew that. Wackett.

0:40:020:40:04

Wackett.

0:40:040:40:06

You say that with such relish, you like that?

0:40:060:40:08

-So, Wackett.

-Yes.

0:40:080:40:10

-And she looks fantastic.

-I don't tell many people that.

0:40:100:40:13

No, no, I don't suppose you do.

0:40:130:40:14

-And I'm not going to tell many people myself.

-Good.

0:40:140:40:16

-I'll keep quiet about that.

-Yes.

0:40:160:40:18

Erm, she looks fantastic here, though. She's very, very elegant.

0:40:180:40:22

-She's a model, really.

-She was really fortunate

0:40:220:40:25

cos you can see why I take after, that side.

0:40:250:40:27

THEY LAUGH

0:40:270:40:28

No, you don't, you're gorgeous.

0:40:310:40:33

No, look, OK.

0:40:330:40:35

So, that is Elizabeth, who was, erm, her mother.

0:40:360:40:41

So that's my great grandmother.

0:40:410:40:44

Hm.

0:40:440:40:45

She looks quite stern.

0:40:450:40:46

And she was born in Cornwall.

0:40:460:40:48

-So this is Elizabeth Wackett, but...

-Right.

0:40:480:40:51

..but what was her maiden name?

0:40:510:40:53

Couch.

0:40:530:40:55

-Now we have someone.

-And now yes, this is...

0:40:550:40:57

Could have been, she could have been...

0:40:570:40:59

..my, my great grandmother, so your great-great-grandmother

0:40:590:41:03

and she was, er, Maria Caroline.

0:41:030:41:06

-Hm.

-Couch.

0:41:060:41:08

She looks very kind.

0:41:080:41:10

She was married to somebody called David Couch.

0:41:100:41:13

Who was a miller in Cornwall.

0:41:130:41:16

Here, this photo is of Jonathan Couch, who was his twin brother.

0:41:160:41:22

I don't know whether they were identical twins, you know,

0:41:220:41:24

maybe they were a little bit alike.

0:41:240:41:26

Nigel has discovered that his great-great-grandfather,

0:41:280:41:32

David Couch, was a flour miller in Cornwall.

0:41:320:41:34

His twin brother Jonathan lived in the same hamlet,

0:41:360:41:39

known as Couch's Mill.

0:41:390:41:40

And here we have a picture of the house.

0:41:420:41:46

-A lovely house.

-Yes.

0:41:470:41:49

I wouldn't mind that myself. What about the dates?

0:41:490:41:52

Are the dates in here somewhere?

0:41:520:41:54

Yes, on here is the, erm, this is the 1851 census.

0:41:540:42:00

It's on this page where David must be. Here.

0:42:000:42:04

David...

0:42:040:42:05

His father was called John Couch.

0:42:050:42:07

Right, so here's John Couch, he's head of the house, male, man,

0:42:070:42:12

-and he's, he was the miller and then there's...

-Yes.

0:42:120:42:14

..David, son, who was 28, he was the, the millwright.

0:42:140:42:20

Jonathan Couch, he's the blacksmith.

0:42:220:42:26

Jonathan was the blacksmith but later became the miller.

0:42:270:42:33

-So, so here, so the mill didn't pass down to David's children?

-No.

0:42:330:42:37

It went sideways to...

0:42:370:42:38

It, it did. David did take over for a time.

0:42:380:42:41

-So what happened there?

-I, I don't know.

0:42:410:42:43

-We would have had a mill.

-Yes. Hm.

0:42:430:42:46

-We would have had this mill.

-You could have been the proud owner of Couch's Mill, the whole area.

0:42:460:42:51

-It's such a pretty house.

-Yes.

0:42:510:42:53

Well, I'm really intrigued, this village with the,

0:42:550:42:57

the blacksmith and the miller and, I'm just... Can't wait to get there.

0:42:570:43:04

Auntie Amanda told me yesterday that my ancestors,

0:43:080:43:11

specifically David Couch were in Cornwall, so I've gone west.

0:43:110:43:17

I have a sneaky suspicion that something odd happens to him,

0:43:170:43:20

because his twin brother, Jonathan, the mill went to him,

0:43:200:43:23

so I just want to know what happened to David really, so...

0:43:230:43:28

I don't know what to expect actually, I have no idea.

0:43:290:43:32

Couch's Mill is on the Boconnoc Estate in Cornwall.

0:43:330:43:38

In the 1850's, the mill was one of many

0:43:380:43:40

tenanted properties owned by the Fortescue family,

0:43:400:43:43

who lived at the main house.

0:43:430:43:44

Historian Dr Catherine Lorigan is showing Nigel the way to the mill.

0:43:470:43:51

I think we're getting near, aren't we?

0:43:540:43:56

Yes, just coming down into the hamlet.

0:43:560:43:58

That's it, isn't it?

0:44:050:44:06

It is. That's the scene.

0:44:060:44:08

-Nothing really has changed.

-No.

0:44:080:44:10

There's the path, quite modest when I get close up to it.

0:44:100:44:13

Yes. That's interesting to see, isn't it?

0:44:130:44:16

Charming to be here.

0:44:160:44:17

I'm beginning to sound like Prince Charles, you know, so modest and...

0:44:170:44:21

-Shall we go and have a look inside?

-Yeah. I'll follow you.

0:44:210:44:25

And down, mind the steps.

0:44:290:44:32

So we are in the mill.

0:44:430:44:45

We are.

0:44:450:44:46

It's nearly like just someone just left one day.

0:44:500:44:52

Yes, they'd just gone.

0:44:520:44:54

It hasn't been worked since the 1920s, I think.

0:44:540:44:57

As the millwright, the job of David,

0:45:020:45:04

Nigel's great-great-grandfather, was to maintain the mill's equipment,

0:45:040:45:09

working alongside his father, John.

0:45:090:45:11

His twin brother

0:45:120:45:13

Jonathan worked as a blacksmith in the same hamlet.

0:45:130:45:16

So just to remind myself, you've got...

0:45:190:45:21

-Yes.

-..John Couch, who's the head.

0:45:210:45:23

-That's right.

-Head man.

0:45:230:45:25

He's the man, yes head of household, he was the miller.

0:45:250:45:28

He was 62, so, but he was a fit 62 I bet?

0:45:280:45:30

-Yes, yes. Well...

-Just like me.

0:45:300:45:32

A lot of them didn't...

0:45:320:45:34

Then there's more over here...

0:45:340:45:36

Then there's Ann Bryant, and she was a house servant working for...

0:45:360:45:41

-With the wife.

-..for, for mum.

0:45:410:45:43

-And then two servants actually working in the mill as well so...

-Ah!

0:45:430:45:46

..it's actually quite a big household, eight people...

0:45:460:45:48

-Oh!

-..all living in that.

0:45:480:45:50

-Yeah that's a bit of a squeeze, I would have thought?

-Yes.

0:45:500:45:53

-Sharing bedrooms and stuff.

-Yes, I would have thought so.

0:45:530:45:55

-That's a lot of people in this space.

-It is quite a lot of people.

0:45:550:45:59

I now know where my direct ancestor lived, right here.

0:45:590:46:03

And I know that, you know,

0:46:030:46:05

these things get passed down naturally, and I would

0:46:050:46:09

have thought that David was going to inherit the business

0:46:090:46:13

and continue it and evidently something goes wrong, or...

0:46:130:46:19

I don't know what's happened.

0:46:210:46:22

But I've got to find that out.

0:46:220:46:24

Nigel is going online at Boconnoc House to search for any

0:46:290:46:33

information about his great-great-grandfather.

0:46:330:46:35

David.

0:46:390:46:40

Couch. See if we can find any reference in a newspaper.

0:46:440:46:49

Let's search that.

0:46:490:46:50

Something that says, Bryant versus David Couch, hang on a minute,

0:46:540:46:59

Bryant.

0:46:590:47:00

There was someone in the... Ann Bryant, house servant.

0:47:040:47:08

Hang on a minute, right. Now, I'm going to magnify this.

0:47:100:47:14

"Trecan Gate Petty Sessions, 6th April.

0:47:180:47:23

"Ann Bryant versus David Couch of Boconnoc, affiliation order made..."

0:47:230:47:27

Affiliation order.

0:47:280:47:29

I don't know what that means.

0:47:310:47:33

"An affiliation order made for five shillings per week for six

0:47:330:47:37

"weeks, midwife, Mr..."

0:47:370:47:39

What's this, so something happened here, did she have a baby?

0:47:400:47:45

Is that what happened? They...

0:47:450:47:47

He, he, erm...

0:47:480:47:49

So, it looks like, what it looks like is they had an affair.

0:47:550:47:58

He had an affair with the servant girl

0:47:580:48:05

and made her pregnant.

0:48:050:48:06

He just couldn't resist it.

0:48:080:48:11

A bit of a cad, really!

0:48:110:48:13

HE LAUGHS

0:48:130:48:15

Oh, dear. I've been playing those sort of parts for years.

0:48:150:48:19

David Couch, you naughty boy.

0:48:230:48:25

Nigel hopes that social historian, Dr Tom Nutt, can shed some light

0:48:320:48:36

on his great-great-grandfather's affair with the family servant.

0:48:360:48:40

And what I've discovered is that my great-great-grandfather,

0:48:410:48:44

David Couch managed to get the, er, house servant pregnant.

0:48:440:48:50

Now, what is an affiliation order?

0:48:500:48:52

Affiliation is the legal process for dealing with illegitimate children.

0:48:530:48:57

Right.

0:48:570:48:58

Firstly, determining the paternity of the child,

0:48:580:49:02

and then the second step is a maintenance order.

0:49:020:49:05

-Right.

-That is, er, putting the father,

0:49:050:49:09

David Couch, erm, under an order to pay two shillings and six pence,

0:49:090:49:13

in this case for maintenance.

0:49:130:49:15

It says on Friday, April 15th 1853, at the Trecan Gate Petty Sessions.

0:49:150:49:21

What, what would they be?

0:49:210:49:23

Well, the Petty Sessions, er,

0:49:230:49:24

-was what we would now think of as the magistrate's court.

-Ah!

0:49:240:49:28

In 1853, according to the laws of the time, the onus

0:49:290:49:33

was on 19-year-old servant girl, Ann Bryant, to stand up in court

0:49:330:49:37

and prove her child's father was the boss's son, David Couch.

0:49:370:49:41

How could Ann Bryant prove

0:49:420:49:45

that David Couch was the father, I mean what,

0:49:450:49:49

what evidence is required to do that?

0:49:490:49:52

Ann probably would have brought in witnesses to the court, so...

0:49:520:49:56

What, ie they'd seen us in bed together?

0:49:560:49:58

Well, it could be in fact actually, erm, very often

0:49:580:50:01

it'll be the woman's mother or father or even a brother or

0:50:010:50:05

sister who might say that they'd seen them walking out together.

0:50:050:50:09

So this actually proves...

0:50:090:50:11

Ann Bryant has proved... that the child is...

0:50:110:50:15

-David's.

-..is David's.

-That's right.

-That's basically what this does?

0:50:150:50:19

That's what it does.

0:50:190:50:20

So, erm, what happened to the child?

0:50:200:50:23

Another certificate which I can show you.

0:50:230:50:26

-Yeah.

-And...

0:50:260:50:27

Oh, dear. This is a death certificate.

0:50:300:50:33

So, on the 15th of March 1854, a year and a month later,

0:50:350:50:43

inflammation of the chest is the reason, the cause of death.

0:50:430:50:47

Sadly, erm, deaths in infancy were very, very common.

0:50:470:50:52

Eleanor Couch Bryant.

0:50:520:50:54

Heavens above, she's got the word Couch in there.

0:50:540:50:57

That meant that they'd got together, do you think?

0:50:570:51:00

I wouldn't necessarily take that leap,

0:51:000:51:04

but I think this, whatever the kind of relationship they had,

0:51:040:51:07

was with recognition of the household, of the community.

0:51:070:51:10

Yeah, she'd been taken into the house, er...

0:51:100:51:12

Yeah, when they come to register the death

0:51:120:51:15

she's recorded as having the father's name.

0:51:150:51:17

The image I build about David is that he's a hardworking man who

0:51:220:51:27

had a fling, but he's not casting this girl and his child away.

0:51:270:51:32

What I want to now to find out is what happened to David.

0:51:330:51:37

Aged 30, what happens to him?

0:51:370:51:39

Very nice to meet you.

0:51:400:51:41

Nigel is meeting family historian, Dr Joanne Bailey,

0:51:410:51:45

at the Boconnoc Parish Church.

0:51:450:51:46

Joanne, I know my great-great-grandfather, David Couch

0:51:490:51:53

had a child, a daughter and very, very sadly little Eleanor died.

0:51:530:51:58

-But I know nothing about what happened...

-Yes.

0:51:580:52:00

Well, we have a document that I can show you in 1862.

0:52:000:52:04

-This is a decade later.

-They were getting married.

0:52:040:52:07

This was for a very happy reason, yes.

0:52:070:52:08

Very happy, getting married. Erm, to Maria Caroline Collins.

0:52:080:52:12

Yeah.

0:52:120:52:14

He's about 38. Oh, she's a widow.

0:52:140:52:17

Yes.

0:52:170:52:18

And he's happy to take her

0:52:180:52:19

and her two children from her first marriage.

0:52:190:52:22

-Her two children.

-Yes.

0:52:220:52:24

Oh, that's a good choice.

0:52:240:52:25

I mean, the other option would have been to marry a young woman.

0:52:250:52:28

He's had experience of a woman much younger and it didn't go so well.

0:52:280:52:31

He's showing some maturity, isn't he?

0:52:310:52:33

Yes, he's being very sensible.

0:52:330:52:35

Good for him.

0:52:350:52:36

Over the next six years from 1862,

0:52:370:52:41

David and Maria Couch went on to have three children,

0:52:410:52:44

David Frederick, Elizabeth and Georgina.

0:52:440:52:47

But in 1868, tragedy struck again.

0:52:490:52:53

And this, so...

0:52:530:52:55

-Georgina Mary...

-Yes.

0:52:550:52:56

-..Couch died.

-Yes.

0:52:560:52:58

And was buried on March the 26th.

0:52:580:53:01

-And she...

-Aged 20 months.

0:53:010:53:03

Yes. I have the, erm, death certificate here.

0:53:030:53:08

Georgina Mary Couch, it says here,

0:53:080:53:13

"Scald on the chest with white pot, lived two days, accidental death."

0:53:130:53:20

So what does that mean? Chest with white pot?

0:53:200:53:22

Well, white pots we think is a,

0:53:220:53:25

a local dish that was made from milk or cream and it...

0:53:250:53:27

Yeah.

0:53:270:53:29

..looks like Georgina, who was toddling,

0:53:290:53:32

has pulled the pan onto herself.

0:53:320:53:34

-Yeah. So this is, oh, he's lost two daughters now.

-Yes.

0:53:350:53:39

-That must have been a shock.

-Erm...

0:53:390:53:41

Two days of hell, to live for two days, oh!

0:53:410:53:44

In the second half of the 19th century in England, more than

0:53:460:53:49

a quarter of children died before they reached their fifth birthday.

0:53:490:53:53

But after Georgina's death, David's family continued to grow.

0:53:550:53:59

Have a look at the register of baptisms.

0:53:590:54:02

OK.

0:54:040:54:05

On March the 10th we have Georgina Mary, daughter of David

0:54:070:54:11

and Maria Caro...

0:54:110:54:12

hang on, but there's already been a Georgina.

0:54:120:54:15

That's right, yes, erm...

0:54:150:54:18

Right, so that means that, that they waited and she has another...

0:54:180:54:21

Yes.

0:54:210:54:22

-..child, which happened to be a girl.

-Yes.

0:54:220:54:24

So, I can see now, in remembrance...

0:54:240:54:28

-That's right.

-..of...

-Of the...

0:54:280:54:30

-..Georgina.

-..first Georgina, yes.

0:54:300:54:32

-Difficult, that's very sweet, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:54:320:54:35

So shall we have a look at, erm, the next census?

0:54:350:54:38

Yes, that would be great. Yeah.

0:54:380:54:40

This is 1871.

0:54:400:54:43

David Couch. Oh, he's the head of the house now.

0:54:430:54:47

Yes.

0:54:470:54:48

He's a master miller. It's taken him some time but at 48 he's a man.

0:54:480:54:52

Yes, his father John died in December 1864.

0:54:520:54:58

-Right, so there's David, there as head.

-Yes.

0:54:580:55:00

-There's his wife, Maria.

-Yes.

0:55:000:55:02

-And then there's...

-Frederick.

0:55:020:55:04

Frederick, Caroline and Georgina, the two daughters, and so...

0:55:040:55:08

-He made it there.

-The line is now sort of forming and...

0:55:080:55:10

-That's right, yes.

-..so I'm coming from somewhere now?

-Yeah.

0:55:100:55:13

And from somewhere rather nice it seems.

0:55:130:55:15

Yes, it does seem that, that's good.

0:55:150:55:17

But I know, I've seen records that in fact Jonathan took

0:55:170:55:21

-the mill over...

-Yes.

0:55:210:55:22

..and I can't work out how that happens if you've got,

0:55:220:55:26

-David, you know, successful...

-Yes.

0:55:260:55:29

..with his three children, what, what, how does that?

0:55:290:55:31

Well, we can turn to the Estate Steward's Diary.

0:55:310:55:36

Er, and this is on the 17th.

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"A very busy...

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"Couch's Mill bridge. Poor David Couch died this day at 1:30pm."

0:55:400:55:47

OK.

0:55:470:55:49

Right. God! So, he didn't really make 50, did he?

0:55:500:55:56

No, he's still 48 when he died.

0:55:560:55:58

So, David's established himself, he's been, you know,

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-master in his own house...

-Yes.

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Head of the house.

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And six years later he dies, where does that leave, er, his wife and children?

0:56:080:56:13

Frederick is David and Maria's son, and he's still too young, really.

0:56:130:56:17

Frederick couldn't run the mill, he's about five, wasn't he?

0:56:170:56:20

Yes, so really there is no-one left.

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With none of David Couch's children old enough to take over,

0:56:250:56:29

his widow Maria passed the mill to David's twin brother,

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Jonathan, who became the master miller.

0:56:320:56:34

Not wishing to stay in the area,

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Maria left Cornwall altogether, taking the children with her, ending

0:56:380:56:43

Nigel's direct ancestral connection to Cornwall and the mill.

0:56:430:56:47

David Couch was buried in the parish graveyard near the mill.

0:56:520:56:55

Oh, here we go, there's John Couch, that's his dad.

0:56:590:57:04

So, I bet they're nearby.

0:57:050:57:07

How about here?

0:57:070:57:08

David Couch, here he is, here's my

0:57:100:57:13

great-great-grandfather's gravestone.

0:57:130:57:16

"Also of Georgina, the daughter." So, they're buried together.

0:57:180:57:24

Oh, that's really charming.

0:57:270:57:29

They're together, which is how it should be.

0:57:300:57:34

That's wonderful.

0:57:360:57:37

There's one daughter that isn't named here,

0:57:370:57:39

but, erm, he had out of wedlock and losing not one but two children

0:57:390:57:45

is just such... Devastating, it must have been so devastating for him.

0:57:450:57:50

I'm so glad that he, you know, got married and had more children,

0:57:520:57:55

I know he died very young, really,

0:57:550:57:57

but I feel that he had a good life, so I feel good about it.

0:57:570:58:00

Discovering about my relations has been not only just emotionally

0:58:040:58:09

moving for me, but also, I don't know whether I can say this, really,

0:58:090:58:12

but I've always been you know, er,

0:58:120:58:14

when I'm interviewed, you know, "You're such a posh actor,"

0:58:140:58:16

the word "posh" always crops up.

0:58:160:58:18

"You must be bored playing the same, you know, posh parts."

0:58:180:58:21

Well, as it turns out, I'm no posher than anybody else, which is,

0:58:210:58:28

which is fantastic.

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