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Actor Nigel Havers divides his time between homes in London | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
and Wiltshire, that he shares with his wife, Georgiana. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
This is PJ, a very nice, gentle horse. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
I love horses, really love them. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
Especially when they run fast and win me money. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
For over 30 years, Nigel has been one of this country's most | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
recognisable and popular actors. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
From Chariots of Fire to The Charmer, and most recently | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
a smooth male escort, Lewis Archer in Coronation Street. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
Gail, please don't self combust, ten minutes, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
that's all I'm asking, things aren't quite how you imagine them. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
Oh, please, you're a common crook, a scoundrel, a bounder, a cad. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
-You said so yourself. -Huh! | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Actors are supposed to live in the present, | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
"on the moment", as they say. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
So it's kind of handy for me that I don't worry about the past. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
But I have become much more reflective in the last few years. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
Because I suppose I've gone beyond the halfway mark now. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
You know I've always been sort of, er, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
spoken of as a sort of, you know a posh, you know, guy, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
always plays those sort of parts and stuff, so what I'm really | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
hoping for, is that my background is not like that at all. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
This is a picture of my mother and father. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
-I wasn't around when this was taken. -No. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
And here's a picture of my father and that's, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
that's a large whiskey in his left hand there. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
And I think probably on the television was a first | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
episode of Doctor Who or something like that. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
And I'm hiding behind the sofa. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
And your eyes are very large. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Cos it was so frightening. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
My father was, erm, a very easy going...level-tempered man. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
He became an MP as well as a barrister and served | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
under Margaret Thatcher as Attorney General and then Lord Chancellor. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
-And here's, look, here's the family, erm, there's my father. -Yeah. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
And there's my grandfather, Sir Cecil. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
My grandpa was famous for being the judge, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
the last judge to sentence a woman to be hanged, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
because he presided over the Ruth Ellis case, famous for that. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Famous for all sorts of things in the, in, in law terms. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
As for my mother's side, I know nothing. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
My parents were not remotely interested in looking back. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
They only were looking forward. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
It's almost as if, you know | 0:03:08 | 0:03:09 | |
my ancestry stopped with my grandfather, bang. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
That's all you need to know. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
To go back beyond his grandfather, | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Nigel is off to Hampshire to see his father's older brother, Tony Havers. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
My father died over 20 years ago now. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Erm, and, but Tony's er, as fit and well, I think he's 94, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
95 and he's full of life. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
I know that obviously my father was a lawyer | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
and my grandfather was a judge | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
and beyond that it's never really been talked about. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
So I'm interested to see what Tony's going to tell me. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
Oh, someone's farm. That's not right. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:03:55 | 0:03:57 | |
Wait a minute. We'll find it. Don't worry. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
-Nigel. -Uncle Tony. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
-Dear boy. -How lovely to see you, marvellous to see you. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
It's lovely to see you. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
Well that, this is a, not a surprise... | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
It's a pleasure. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
-Good. -Come on in. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
Absolutely, thank you very much. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
Did you have a good trip down? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
yeah, I did, it only took five hours. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-It's great to see you. -Great to see you. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
Very interesting that you've come here to see me | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
because we've got here a, a very good, erm, family tree. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
-OK. -Now here you are, Nigel. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-Um-hm. -Born 1951. Great, that's right? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
I'm afraid it is, yes. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
I wish I could lie about it but I can't. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
Er, you, son of, erm, Michael and Carol, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
then we move on up to Cecil Robert Havers. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Yes. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
Much-loved in our family, in fact adored. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
We loved him, we really did. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
When I was at prep school I suddenly got this note in the post, you know. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
"Dear Nigel, I had the Beatles for tea on Thursday | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
"and I got their autographs for you, enclosed." | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
-Yeah. -And there they were. -Yeah. -I've still got them. -Yeah. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
-And can you imagine that at boarding school... -Oh! -I was the hero, you know. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
-Yeah you could have... -Yeah, yeah amazing. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:13 | |
And then we go on up further to Agnes who, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
who was married to Daniel. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-Hm-hmm. -That would have been your great grandmother... -Hm-hmm. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Great grandfather. Now we're getting, er, Nigel, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
we're now getting near the top of the tree. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
OK. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:29 | |
George Buckingham. Now then have, have a good moniker at him. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
Confident and, erm, a good, a good | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
family maker, with 17 children. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
17, yeah. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
14 who survived. And this really is the sort of | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
culmination of the whole thing. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
This was at, erm, Salisbury House, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
-which was the Buckingham main house... -Hm. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
large house in Unthank Road, Norwich. This is George here. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Yes. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
And this is the great child bearer, Elizabeth Buckingham | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
and she was in her single life, Elizabeth Hamblion. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Hamblion. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:05 | |
And so, erm, these are the 14 children, the family. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Now when I was about six, erm, my mum and father | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
-took me to visit Elizabeth... -Hm. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
..in her house, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
because every Sunday morning she insisted that all the family | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
should attend Salisbury House. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-Right. -She wanted to see them. -Oh, right. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
So we attended and we, we were lined up | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
-and I was told to sit on the floor because I was only six. -Yes. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-So I was down here somewhere. -Hm. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
And we waited and waited and against the wall, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
because she was up in the bedroom above and, erm, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
she got into her lift up there and her lift came down... | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
-..and the doors parted. -Yeah. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
In a wheelchair, didn't move except to have a searching | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
glance from left across to the centre, over to the right. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
-Yeah. -And she suddenly said, "Where's Geoffrey?" | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
And, and Geoffrey had got, got into trouble for not coming. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:03 | |
Oh! | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Dead scary. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
She sounds a pretty... | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
She was a regal lady but... | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
Very regal. Looks like Queen Victoria. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
-Yes, absolutely Queen Victoria. -Yeah. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
-A long dress and lace cap. -Yeah. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
But what's interesting, Nigel, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
is I know a lot about all those people, but the one part of the | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
family tree I don't know anything about at all, is Elizabeth Hamblion. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
Er, it's a blank, a blank sheet. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
With his uncle's help, Nigel has managed to trace his father's | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
line back to his great-great-grandmother, Elizabeth Hamblion. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
You end up with this woman who looks just like a sort of Queen Victoria. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
I don't know what to expect, but she does put on a grand, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
a very grand air. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
I need to know about her, I really do. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
To begin his search, Nigel has come home to London | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
and ordered up Elizabeth Hamblion's birth certificate. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Can't wait. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
So, here we are. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:09 | |
It's from the Registration District of Colchester, in 1841, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
in the county of Essex. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
So that makes her, makes her an Essex girl. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
She probably didn't wear white high heels, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
probably have her hair done like that. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
But she's still an Essex bird. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Erm, the mother, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
Elizabeth Ann Hamblion...and her father... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
..was Henry Hamblion, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
here we are, Henry Hamblion, and it says occupation of father, driver. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Driver. A driver. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Where does all this grandness come from, I'm wondering. Anyway. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Let's have a look on the internet. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
I've loaded up the Census for 1841, so let's, let's put her name in. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Birth year we know is 1841. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
OK, here we go. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
Oh! Right, there is daughter, er, Elizabeth Anne. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:32 | |
She was two months old when this census was taken, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
and at the bottom, here we are, erm, let's have a look at that. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
That says Henry Hamblion, and that's the father. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
And let's just go, and he's er, and his occupation, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
does that say Hackney? | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
Hackney Master. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
I think it does. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
He was a coachman of some sort, or a taxi driver. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
It looks like he was a cab driver. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
"Take me to Whitechapel please." "Certainly, Sir." | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
So much for the stately home. It's time to go. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
To Essex. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:12 | |
Nigel has come to Colchester to discover more about the | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
profession of his great-great-great grandfather, Henry Hamblion. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
He's meeting coaching expert, Colin Porson. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Good morning. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
Colin, thank you very much for coming, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
and we'll talk about how you're dressed in a minute, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
but, erm, I know from the census, which I've seen, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
that Henry Hamblion is a Hackney Master. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
Is that going up in the world? I don't know what it means. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-It is going up in the world. -Oh, good. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
But before we delve into that, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
perhaps I should just explain the outfit? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
It's a lovely outfit. Great. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Erm, Henry was operating in the middle of the 19th | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-century as we know. -Um-hmm. | 0:10:58 | 0:10:59 | |
And, and this, this uniform is in fact that of a, erm, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
a coach guard from that period and I thought it would add | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
just a bit of local colour to our conversation. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
It does, I love it, it's great. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
Now, the Hackney Master. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
-I recognise Hackney because we call our taxis in London, Hackney cabs. -We do. -Yeah. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-For exactly the same... -I thought they came from Hackney? -But unfortunately no. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Hackney came originally from, from an old French verb, meaning to hire. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
Oh, right. Nothing to do with Hackney at all. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
And I think that when he started, Henry was driving | 0:11:28 | 0:11:34 | |
carriages for hire, much as you have black cabs today. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
But by 1841 he was obviously coming up in the world | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
and by describing himself as a Hackney Master, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
-would suggest that he has drivers working for him. -Oh! | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
-He had moved into a moved into... -Oh! | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
..a more managerial, a more organisational role. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
I had this image that he was just driving his own cab. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
I think he's moved beyond that. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-Now, The Essex Standard was... -Yeah. -..the local paper. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
It's, erm, 1844 now. "The Original Mews", Sir Isaac's Walk, Colchester. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:10 | |
H & J Hamblion, that's Henry and... | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Jeremiah was his, his younger brother. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
Uh-huh. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:18 | |
So this was a family business. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
"Beg respectfully to announce to the Ladies, Gentry, and the | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
"Inhabitants of Colchester and its vicinity, that they have recently | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
"added to their Establishment a number of superior Clarence and..." | 0:12:26 | 0:12:31 | |
Brougham. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
"..Brougham." | 0:12:33 | 0:12:34 | |
-As in sweeping. -Yes. Brougham carriages. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
These were prestigious vehicles. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Henry's business was, was definitely on the... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
-Yeah. -..on the up. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
-What would they cost, these? -I mean, you're... | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
-You're probably looking at, at stretch limo... -Yeah. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-..money. I mean this... -Right. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
..this would be the Bentley Continental. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Oh, he's obviously doing well, I would say. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
-So that's all good. -Yeah. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
He was also a Jobbed Master, someone who would hire out horses by | 0:12:56 | 0:13:02 | |
themselves or horses and carriages and a coachman and a groom. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
This is a big business. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
This is a big business. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
Colin has brought with him a replica stagecoach, from the period | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
when Henry Hamblion was running his carriage business. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
And here is your coach Nigel. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
This would have been coming through Colchester every day. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
So how many people does this, erm, this fit? | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
We would have four people in here. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Today it is driven by a coachman with a brakeman, two grooms | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
and Colin, the guard. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
And this one goes here. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
Oh, I got that. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
-No time. -Good, so here we are. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
HE PLAYS HORN | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
That means we're going. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:00 | |
-That means start. -Start. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
And there were various standard calls that the guard would blow | 0:14:02 | 0:14:07 | |
to indicate to other road users what the coach is doing. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
So, we can blow | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
and clear the road. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
OK. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:19 | |
Clear the road. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
HE BLOWS HORN | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
Isn't that great, isn't that fantastic? I love that. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
You might release that as a CD. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
-CD. -Yeah. And we've cleared, you've cleared the road all right, I can tell, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
look, there's nobody there at all. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
They're terrified. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
I feel very at home here actually, I do. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
By 1844, Henry Hamblion and his brother Jeremiah were hiring | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
out a range of vehicles from their central Colchester stables. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Including small fast cabs operating from the centre of town, a large | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
omnibus and smart carriages serving the upper classes of Colchester. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:11 | |
Nigel is meeting local historian, Patrick Denny, to find | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
out where Henry and Jeremiah plied their trade. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
So...this is the high street. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
This is the ancient high street. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
So what was Colchester really like in that period? | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
This is probably one of the earliest photographs we've got, it's | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
-dating about 1858. -Yeah. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
The livestock market is still in the high street. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
All the stalls, the fish stalls as far as the eye can see. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
And, and the carriages outside the fire offices where all | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
-the Hackney carriages used to stand. -Yeah. -That could be one of Henry's... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
-Yeah. -..carriages standing there. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Colchester was an increasingly prosperous town in the 1840's, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
with a thriving corn market and emerging clothing industry. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
In 1843, a new railway station had been built providing Henry | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
and Jeremiah with new business. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
Transporting ever more passengers from the station to the town. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
So they've got a lot of expensive carriages, horses, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
wealthy passengers | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
and there was always a threat of people operating on the wrong side of the law, erm... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Yes. ..stealing from him. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:19 | |
Got a few newspaper cuttings here, one from The Ipswich Journal. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
It says "Highway robbery at Mile End." | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
God, you know I never thought of highway robbery, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
I always think of that as being much, earlier... | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
-Earlier on. -Yes. -Yeah this is, this is during Henry's time. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
"A daring highway robbery was perpetrated on the Mile End Road, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
"two miles from the town, early on Thursday morning. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
"Daniel Underwood, in the service of | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
"Mr Henry Hamblion..." Here he is. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
There he is, yeah. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
"A short distance from the Dog and Pheasant public-house, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
"a man stopped the horses whilst another | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
"jumped on the box of the vehicle and knocked the driver from his seat. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
"They made off with only the driver's hat and silver mounted whip, | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
-"worth 15 shillings." -Yes. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
That's a lot of money then? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
That is, 15 shillings. We've got another one actually. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
"On Thursday the 23rd, a man hired a horse | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
"and gig at the stables of Messrs Hamblion..." | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
There we are. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
"..of this town, under pretence of going to Bentley in Suffolk, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
"but instead of which he was seen soon afterwards driving | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
"in the opposite direction and was traced to Braintree; and | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
"neither the individual nor the horse and gig has since been heard of. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:36 | |
"A reward is offered for his apprehension." | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
But this is a worry for | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-Henry isn't it, I mean... -Yeah. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:41 | |
..his reputation is at stake in terms of people thinking, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
well, do we go with him, | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
-he's been burgled, maybe we... -That's right. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
-And if it happens too often of course his business could be at risk. -Yeah. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-Er, totally. -So this is a serious thing. -I think so, yes. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
To find out how Henry protected his business, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Nigel's meeting 19th century crime expert, Professor Peter King. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Peter, er, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
I'm aware that my ancestor, Henry Hamblion, erm, | 0:18:10 | 0:18:15 | |
had had some trouble with highway robbery and other crimes. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
How, how could you deal with that, how could you prevent these | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
things happening because it could be very serious? | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
Well, that's why we've brought you here. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Er, because the association that helped to solve that problem | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
their records are here in this solicitor's office, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
-so let's have a look. -OK. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Here we've got the, erm, minute book, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
this is of the Colchester Association. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
"At the annual meeting of the members of the Colchester | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
"Association held at the Town Hall, Colchester on Tuesday 5th May 1846." | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
"After dinner at the 3 Cups Hotel, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:53 | |
"the following new subscribers were elected." | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
There he is. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
-Henry Hamblion. So he's now part of this... -Yeah. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
-..Colchester Association. -He, his brother, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
his brother Jeremiah joined a couple of years later. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Right. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
So they were... the partners were both in there. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
We've got a poster here from just a few years earlier, 1842. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Oh, this is a little bit before my ancestor joined. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
A fantastic poster. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
"Subscribers to the Colchester Association for the protection | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
"of property and the prosecution of housebreakers and thieves." | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
Yeah, it was called 'The Thieves Association', | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
interestingly, so Henry has just joined | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
the thieves in fact. And... | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
It says here, "No trouble or expense will be spared in detecting | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
"offenders and bringing them to justice." | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
And look, and look, the Mayor's involved. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
-Yeah, the Mayor, the big noises are probably in there. -Yeah. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
-Including the MP. -Oh, yes. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
And a couple of MD's. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
They were lawyers, tradesmen, shopkeepers, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
the classic middle and upper middle class, you know. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
This is a voluntary association, | 0:20:00 | 0:20:01 | |
they create a communal fund from which they can then, er... | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
-Protect themselves. -..can be used. Yeah... | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
Can they arrest people themselves, can they go up and...? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
No, no, they can't, they have to use the existing police force | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
and the policing of the, of the town is still very rudimentary. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
Modern policing was in its infancy in the 1840's. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
And it wasn't until 1856 that a nationally-funded | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
and government-regulated police force was introduced. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Before this, associations like 'The Thieves', could pay local | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
officers to prioritise their cases and pursue criminals. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
By joining 'The Thieves', Henry was not only eligible for these | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
privileges, he also gained the kudos of being part of Colchester's | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
business establishment. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
So, he's sort of making it now, isn't he? He's got | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
a good business going, he's enough money to join the association | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
with, along with all these, you know, respected people. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
His brother-in-law. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
So the two of them are really, you know, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
basically, they're going up in the world, aren't they? | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
And four years after they joined 'The Thieves', | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
something else happens which has an interesting turn of events. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
"Notice is hereby given, that the | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
"Partnership subsisting between Henry Hamblion | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
"and Jeremiah Hamblion is this, this day dissolved by mutual consent." | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
-May 9th 1850. -And... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Which means that Jeremiah is no longer part of the business? | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
-I wonder why? -We've got a couple of clues we'd like to show you. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-Oh, I see. -And this is from The Essex Standard... | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-Yes, I know The Essex Standard, yes. -The local rag. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
"Charge of furious driving." oh, God! | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
-"Against Jeremiah Hamblion." Right. -Hm. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
"William Dines was driving a fresh broken colt on the Lexden Road | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
-"accompanied by a complainant." -By the complainant. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
"When they were followed for some distance by a van." | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
By a van? | 0:21:48 | 0:21:49 | |
"Driven by the defendant, who ultimately passed the other | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
"vehicle and as it was alleged, he hallooed, he hallooed | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
"so as to cause the colt to take fright and become reactive..." | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Now that's not good, is it? | 0:22:00 | 0:22:01 | |
So he's obviously, you know, he's a bit of a lad, this guy. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
There's a bit of road rage going on here. Oh, yeah. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
And we have another document suggesting that Jeremiah was | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
quite capable of hitting the news more than once. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
Oh, God, er, "County Court October 13th. Action for wilful damage. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:17 | |
"Sarah Mills, fish dealer, versus Jeremiah Hamblion. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
"The plaintiff stated that she was keeping an oyster | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
"stall in the fish market when Mr Hamblion, who had | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
"plenty of room to pass, drove against her stall and upset it." | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
Oh! | 0:22:33 | 0:22:34 | |
"She cried out, for God's sake, you'll kill me, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
"as the shafts of the barrow" I don't know why I'm laughing. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
"struck her leg, but Mr Hamblion, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
"making use of some abusive language, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
"said, he didn't care what he did and took no notice of her. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
"Her leg was badly injured and being in the family way..." | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
-Yeah, she was pregnant as well. -I don't know why I'm laughing, He's a bit of a lad, isn't he? | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
It's a pregnant woman and he's taking her out... he's taking her out. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Having looked at this, I mean you're an expert at this, | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
do you think that's why they sort of split up? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
If you got a, a furious driving brother and you're running | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
a company like this, it's not going to do your reputation very much good. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I was intrigued by it, the problem Henry had with, with er, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
his brother. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
But I think it's right that Henry decided that maybe he should go | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
and do something else. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
So now he's lost his business partner, erm, | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
where does that leave him? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Nigel is meeting business historian, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
Dr Terry Gourvish at 15 Queen Street. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
A house in front of the site that was formerly Henry Hamblin's | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
livery stables. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
So far I know that, erm, Henry... | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
-Um-hmm. -..has gone it on his own. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
I'd like to know what happens next. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
-OK, well, right, well that was in 1850 I think... -Hm. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
and this is the 1851 census. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Right. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:52 | |
And so we've got, we've got Henry here, who's head of the house at 37. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
-Er, and it says Inn Keeper. -Hm. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
What, what happened to the, erm, the horses and stables? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
Oh, I think he kept those. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:06 | |
Oh, so he's really doing, doing well indeed, isn't he? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Yes, it's a diversification. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:10 | |
Fantastic, good for him. Elizabeth, wife. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:15 | |
Yes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Rosanna, daughter, aged 12. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
-And, and it says she has an occupation at 12 of... -It's crossed out. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
It's been crossed out, but it does actually say barmaid. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
Barmaid. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Barmaid. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
Right, would you, do you fancy a pint. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
All that going on, she's a proper, behind the bar at 12? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Yes well, that wasn't uncommon... | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
in 1851. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
OK. Elizabeth, daughter. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
-Now Elizabeth, erm, I've seen a photograph of her. -Oh, right. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
-My uncle Tony, who's 95, showed me this... -Oh! | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
..very grand lady sitting, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
looking like a miniature Queen Victoria, very, very grand. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
So that's her there, aged 10. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
In the Brewers Arms. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
In the Brewers Arms. She wouldn't have told many people that. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
-I'm not sure she would. -No he's doing fine. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
He is doing fine, yes that's right. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
-He's diversifying, that's great isn't it? -Yes. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
I mean, that's what people should do. And then... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
You've got something else here? | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
Well, this is, they have to go forward some years. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
"October 5th 1864." | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
So a "Mr Henry Hamblion begs to inform the public he's taken | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
"the business of Railway and General Carrying." | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
So that means he's taken over a different sort of business? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Indeed so. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
And not carrying the public, carrying... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
-Carrying goods, yes... -Goods. -..merchandise. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Er, and taking it to the railway station. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
The rail network expanded even further in the 1860's. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
With over 4,000 miles of new track. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
Money could be make ferrying goods to and from the station | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
and around town. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
By adding general carrying to his other businesses, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Henry would be competing with established | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
firms like Pickford's for lucrative contracts with the railways. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
He's making loads of money, doing really well. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
-Yes, so we might think. -Yeah. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
However, er, I have this document to show you. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Right. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
And this is barely two years later. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Erm, "Henry Hamblion, of | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
"Colchester, in the county of Essex, licensed victualler | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
"and late a Common Carrier, and livery stable keeper, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
"having been adjudged bankrupt." | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
Oh, right. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
So he's gone, he's gone bust. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Yes, yes within two years of acquiring that carrying business. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
Well, it was, it was all going so well, he was expanding. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
Becoming more of an entrepreneur. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
And then he hit me with this bombshell that, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
that he'd gone bankrupt a few, literally a few years later. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
And...it was a real hammer blow. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
And I've got to find out why, what happened. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
How this big business has just gone down the tubes. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Nigel has come to meet bankruptcy expert, Dr Katherine McMillan. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
Katherine, thank you so much for seeing me. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
-Hello. -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
Oh, now, first of all, how bad was it to go bankrupt in 1860, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
whatever it was? | 0:27:17 | 0:27:18 | |
-From a social perspective... -Hm. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
..a respected man like Henry, this is, attracts a huge moral stigma. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
And it's a huge reverse for this man. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
So what happens to you, basically? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
This is a report from The Essex Standard. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
The Essex Standard, it comes up a lot. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
OK, this is about Hamblion, Colchester. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
"Who came to the court on his own petition on the 20th October | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
"last, attributing his failure to, losses in business." | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
Something has gone wrong in the common carrier business. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
Yes, you know, I mean it, there was something about, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
he knew how to run the yard and, and the horses and the carriages, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
but suddenly he wanted to branch out. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
Maybe that's what happened? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
That may well have been too much. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
-He didn't know that business. -Yes. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
Too much competition? | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
It's entirely possible. It's a competitive industry. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
So "losses in business and my having some surety for my son-in-law." | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
So who is this son-in-law? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Well, we answer that by looking at this, er, marriage certificate. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:18 | |
Here's Henry's daughter, her name is Rosina, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
I know on the census I saw, she was described as a barmaid. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Yes. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
-She grew up quite fast, this girl. -Yes. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Marrying John Hum. He's a builder. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
And in acting as a surety, | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
what Henry was doing was assuming a liability. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
-He's a guarantor, basically? -It's a form of guarantor. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
By acting as a surety for John Hum, Henry was not only liable for | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
his own business debts, but also for a large part of his son-in-law's. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:53 | |
John has problems shortly before, erm, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
Henry has filed his own petition for bankruptcy. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
-Oh, this is in August. -Yes. -Whereas that was in October. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
"So John F Hum, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
"builder of Colchester was brought up from the county gaol." | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
Yes. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:11 | |
"As a prisoner for debt." | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Right, so he's been sent down for not paying his debt? | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
Yes. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:19 | |
Now John Hum, I presume he's going to have children? | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
John does have children at this point, erm... | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
Ah now, that'll be one reason why my ancestor was keen to make | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
-sure that he didn't get into, you know... -Yes. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
..was a, acted as, as a surety for him. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
Yes, yes. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:38 | |
Because he was protecting his, his eldest daughter. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
-Would be very natural for a father to step in... -Absolutely. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
..in those circumstances to assist his daughter | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
and to assist his grandchildren. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
The collapse of his own business and his attempt to | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
cover his builder son-in-law's debts led to Henry's ruin. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
But unlike John Hum, Henry avoided prison by voluntarily | 0:29:56 | 0:30:01 | |
filing for bankruptcy and declaring all his debts. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
We have a final, erm, entry here, erm, | 0:30:06 | 0:30:12 | |
in the Court of Bankruptcy. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
"Re Henry Hamblion. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
"The bankrupt, he can't show creditors holding security, £8,460." | 0:30:16 | 0:30:23 | |
-Yes. That's an enormous sum. -Yeah. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
It's equivalent probably to about £2.5 million today. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
Henry handed over his considerable fortune in an attempt to pay off | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
his debts, which amounted to more than £2.5 million in today's money. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
What a shame | 0:30:40 | 0:30:41 | |
to build all this up and then have it all go so horribly wrong. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
Hm, what a shame, eh? | 0:30:48 | 0:30:49 | |
I'm sort of shattered by Henry's downfall, to be honest. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
Erm, and just that, the amount of money that was involved in this. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
Nigel has gone online to see | 0:31:09 | 0:31:10 | |
if he can discover what happened to Henry after his bankruptcy. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
Hang on, let's just go to the top, | 0:31:19 | 0:31:21 | |
this is from The Essex Standard, Friday 17th February 1871. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
So, we've now gone on, '66, '67, four years later. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
Right..."The Provident Asylum Society, a special meeting of the | 0:31:32 | 0:31:39 | |
"members of this useful institution, the next business was to consider | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
"the claim of Mr Henry Hamblion, be admitted on the Foundation to | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
"receive the usual benefits, much commiseration was shown towards Mr | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
"Hamblion in his present affliction, was unanimously elected." | 0:31:50 | 0:31:54 | |
What does that mean in Victorian times? Provident Asylum Society. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
well, I know, there are two things, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
it might be that his affliction is that he's still got no money, but | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
er, commiseration shown towards his present affliction, maybe there's | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
something actually gone wrong with him, this is driving him a bit mad. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
The first priority is to find out what happened to Henry, er, | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
also I need to find out what happened to my ancestor, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
Elizabeth, who must be, she was 10 in 51, she must be in her 20's. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:27 | |
Nigel hopes that local historian, Andrew Phillips, can help him | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
make sense of Henry's circumstances. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
-This is from The Essex Standard. -Uh-huh. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
Er, your local paper. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
I need you to tell me what the Provident Asylum Society is? | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
The Provident Asylum Society was set up for people of business | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
and professional people to, er, pay an annual | 0:32:50 | 0:32:56 | |
subscription against the possibility that disaster might come their way. | 0:32:56 | 0:33:01 | |
So a little security. So you do this in case your... | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
-Oh, absolutely. -..business fails. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:05 | |
And Henry was bright enough to think, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
-"Just in case this goes wrong, I'm going to pay into this." -That's right. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
OK. He had the foresight to anticipate, and to cover himself. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
He was now eligible to the usual benefits and they weren't nothing | 0:33:16 | 0:33:22 | |
because behind us stands, in fact, the Provident Asylum Society. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
Oh, wow, it's very attractive houses. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
Indeed. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:30 | |
So he has a roof over his head. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
Self help societies were common in Victorian England. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:38 | |
There was no welfare state, and if a family fell on hard times, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
it risked ending up in the workhouse. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
But prudent businessmen like Henry could pay into a private | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
fund like the Provident Asylum Society, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
ensuring him against poverty and homelessness. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
-He's doing fine. -Yes, he's doing great. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
I mean, he could start again, you know, he could start another business. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
Yes, but hang on, they were sympathising with his affliction. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
Yes. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:04 | |
What does that suggest to you? | 0:34:04 | 0:34:05 | |
That he might not be very well. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
-Oh, dear, oh, dear. Er, it's a death certificate. -Uh-huh. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
1871...let me just, one second, let me just look at this. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:23 | |
This was February 17th 1871. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
March, so a month later he dies of, it says here, er, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:32 | |
the cause of death, "diseased heart certified." | 0:34:32 | 0:34:37 | |
-So he had a heart attack in other words, probably. -Probably. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
So the probability is he | 0:34:41 | 0:34:42 | |
was packing up almost to move in and had a... | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:47 | |
-Oh, dear. He never made it. -What about the family? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
-Ah! -Does he say? -The small print. Here we are, rule 12. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
Ah, "Widows of Members. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:55 | |
"In the event of the death of a Member of the Foundation, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:59 | |
"who was a married man at the time of his admission, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
"his widow shall continue to reside in the house, rent and tax free." | 0:35:01 | 0:35:06 | |
-Oh, that's good, so he was really smart, wasn't he? -Yeah. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
-He put aside and paid for this... -Yeah. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
..in case something happened and, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
and show what a wonderful man he was in many, many ways. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
But tell me, I really want to know what happened to my, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
my direct ancestor, Elizabeth junior, so to speak. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
I know. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
But I last came across her, she was, erm, 10 years old. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
We roll forward a further ten years to 1881. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
-Yeah. -And I have here, a copy of the census. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
Oh, here's a man called George Buckingham. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
-And... -Elizabeth. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:40 | |
He's a shoe manufacturer. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
Was does that say, I can't see what that says? | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
Employing... | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
50 men. Oh, he's a big... big time. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
That's a significant size shoe factory. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Oh, we've got to where Elizabeth is married to Buckingham. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
-Yeah. -My uncle Tony... -Yeah. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
..went and had lunch, when he was six, with those two. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
-Really? -Yes. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:04 | |
And so we've, we've now come... the whole circle has now joined up. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
The circle of life. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:10 | |
But, erm, it occurs to me, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
behind us, erm, Henry's wife, Elizabeth is still living here. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
-That's right. -So... | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
And, and she lived long after his death. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
To the age of 79. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
Oh, wow, that's good. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:24 | |
And she died in this house, er, 1892. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
And she was buried with him in Colchester Cemetery. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
Ah! | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
Oh, look at this. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:46 | |
"In memory of Henry Hamblion, who died March 17th 1871, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
"aged 56 years." | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
"Also of Elizabeth Hamblion." | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
"Wife of the above, died December 28th 1892, aged 79." | 0:37:05 | 0:37:11 | |
Well...they're together. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
And here we are in, in Henry's graveyard, having gone through, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
you know, such hard times himself. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Losing all his fortune... | 0:37:25 | 0:37:26 | |
..but caring for his family and then dying suddenly at 56 years old. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:33 | |
Hard, really. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:34 | |
When Uncle Tony showed me | 0:37:37 | 0:37:39 | |
that picture of Elizabeth, Henry's daughter, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
looking like a sort of copy of Queen Victoria, erm, I wondered | 0:37:43 | 0:37:48 | |
what sort of a woman she was and where she'd come from. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
And now that I know, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
she must have watched her father go through the ups and downs of life. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
She wasn't from a great money or titled background, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
she'd grown up the hard way. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:01 | |
I'll look at that photograph again and I'll see a woman who's, | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
you know, survived all that. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
Having explored his father's ancestry, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Nigel is turning to his mother's side. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
His mother Carol has a sister, Amanda, who lives in Hertfordshire. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:24 | |
Now we're off to see my Auntie Amanda, Amanda Lay. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
I don't know what she knows about my family history, I have no idea. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
But I know from experience that, that she's very, erm, | 0:38:37 | 0:38:43 | |
up for a lark, as they say. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
My mother's side of the family is a complete mystery to me | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
and this is a whole section of the family I really | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
know nothing about. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Nigel has arranged to meet his aunt, Amanda Lay, at her local pub. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Auntie Mans, as I live and breathe. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Hello. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-Lovely to see you. -Well, it is. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:14 | |
Who'd ever believe we'd be sitting in a pub talking about, well... | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Family. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:18 | |
..family. Are we posh, or not really? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
-No. -No. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:22 | |
She said defensively. No. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
I just wanted to know, that's all? | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
-I do know that, that is a photograph... -Yes. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:30 | |
..of my grandfather, who of course I never met. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
Whose name was? | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
-Stuart... -Stuart. -..Charles Lay. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
Stuart Charles Lay. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
I was told that he worked in the city. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
That isn't actually true, he worked, erm, he owned a laundry. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
He owned a laundry? | 0:39:45 | 0:39:46 | |
-Yes. And... -He owned a laundry. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
It must have been quite a profitable laundry? | 0:39:49 | 0:39:50 | |
-It, I think it was. -OK. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
But you definitely know this person because, er, that was his wife. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
My grandmother. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
That is grandma. And er, she was Irene Wackett. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
I never knew that. Wackett. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Wackett. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:06 | |
You say that with such relish, you like that? | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
-So, Wackett. -Yes. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
-And she looks fantastic. -I don't tell many people that. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
No, no, I don't suppose you do. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:14 | |
-And I'm not going to tell many people myself. -Good. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
-I'll keep quiet about that. -Yes. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Erm, she looks fantastic here, though. She's very, very elegant. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
-She's a model, really. -She was really fortunate | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
cos you can see why I take after, that side. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
No, you don't, you're gorgeous. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
No, look, OK. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
So, that is Elizabeth, who was, erm, her mother. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
So that's my great grandmother. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
Hm. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:45 | |
She looks quite stern. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:46 | |
And she was born in Cornwall. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
-So this is Elizabeth Wackett, but... -Right. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
..but what was her maiden name? | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Couch. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
-Now we have someone. -And now yes, this is... | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Could have been, she could have been... | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
..my, my great grandmother, so your great-great-grandmother | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
and she was, er, Maria Caroline. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
-Hm. -Couch. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
She looks very kind. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
She was married to somebody called David Couch. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Who was a miller in Cornwall. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Here, this photo is of Jonathan Couch, who was his twin brother. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:22 | |
I don't know whether they were identical twins, you know, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
maybe they were a little bit alike. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
Nigel has discovered that his great-great-grandfather, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
David Couch, was a flour miller in Cornwall. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
His twin brother Jonathan lived in the same hamlet, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
known as Couch's Mill. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:40 | |
And here we have a picture of the house. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
-A lovely house. -Yes. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
I wouldn't mind that myself. What about the dates? | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Are the dates in here somewhere? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
Yes, on here is the, erm, this is the 1851 census. | 0:41:54 | 0:42:00 | |
It's on this page where David must be. Here. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
David... | 0:42:04 | 0:42:05 | |
His father was called John Couch. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:07 | |
Right, so here's John Couch, he's head of the house, male, man, | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
-and he's, he was the miller and then there's... -Yes. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
..David, son, who was 28, he was the, the millwright. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
Jonathan Couch, he's the blacksmith. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
Jonathan was the blacksmith but later became the miller. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:33 | |
-So, so here, so the mill didn't pass down to David's children? -No. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
It went sideways to... | 0:42:37 | 0:42:38 | |
It, it did. David did take over for a time. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
-So what happened there? -I, I don't know. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
-We would have had a mill. -Yes. Hm. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
-We would have had this mill. -You could have been the proud owner of Couch's Mill, the whole area. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:51 | |
-It's such a pretty house. -Yes. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Well, I'm really intrigued, this village with the, | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
the blacksmith and the miller and, I'm just... Can't wait to get there. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:04 | |
Auntie Amanda told me yesterday that my ancestors, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
specifically David Couch were in Cornwall, so I've gone west. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:17 | |
I have a sneaky suspicion that something odd happens to him, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
because his twin brother, Jonathan, the mill went to him, | 0:43:20 | 0:43:23 | |
so I just want to know what happened to David really, so... | 0:43:23 | 0:43:28 | |
I don't know what to expect actually, I have no idea. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
Couch's Mill is on the Boconnoc Estate in Cornwall. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:38 | |
In the 1850's, the mill was one of many | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
tenanted properties owned by the Fortescue family, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
who lived at the main house. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:44 | |
Historian Dr Catherine Lorigan is showing Nigel the way to the mill. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
I think we're getting near, aren't we? | 0:43:54 | 0:43:56 | |
Yes, just coming down into the hamlet. | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
That's it, isn't it? | 0:44:05 | 0:44:06 | |
It is. That's the scene. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
-Nothing really has changed. -No. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
There's the path, quite modest when I get close up to it. | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
Yes. That's interesting to see, isn't it? | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
Charming to be here. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:17 | |
I'm beginning to sound like Prince Charles, you know, so modest and... | 0:44:17 | 0:44:21 | |
-Shall we go and have a look inside? -Yeah. I'll follow you. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:25 | |
And down, mind the steps. | 0:44:29 | 0:44:32 | |
So we are in the mill. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
We are. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:46 | |
It's nearly like just someone just left one day. | 0:44:50 | 0:44:52 | |
Yes, they'd just gone. | 0:44:52 | 0:44:54 | |
It hasn't been worked since the 1920s, I think. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
As the millwright, the job of David, | 0:45:02 | 0:45:04 | |
Nigel's great-great-grandfather, was to maintain the mill's equipment, | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
working alongside his father, John. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:11 | |
His twin brother | 0:45:12 | 0:45:13 | |
Jonathan worked as a blacksmith in the same hamlet. | 0:45:13 | 0:45:16 | |
So just to remind myself, you've got... | 0:45:19 | 0:45:21 | |
-Yes. -..John Couch, who's the head. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
-That's right. -Head man. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
He's the man, yes head of household, he was the miller. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
He was 62, so, but he was a fit 62 I bet? | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
-Yes, yes. Well... -Just like me. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
A lot of them didn't... | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
Then there's more over here... | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
Then there's Ann Bryant, and she was a house servant working for... | 0:45:36 | 0:45:41 | |
-With the wife. -..for, for mum. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
-And then two servants actually working in the mill as well so... -Ah! | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
..it's actually quite a big household, eight people... | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
-Oh! -..all living in that. | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
-Yeah that's a bit of a squeeze, I would have thought? -Yes. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:53 | |
-Sharing bedrooms and stuff. -Yes, I would have thought so. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:55 | |
-That's a lot of people in this space. -It is quite a lot of people. | 0:45:55 | 0:45:59 | |
I now know where my direct ancestor lived, right here. | 0:45:59 | 0:46:03 | |
And I know that, you know, | 0:46:03 | 0:46:05 | |
these things get passed down naturally, and I would | 0:46:05 | 0:46:09 | |
have thought that David was going to inherit the business | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
and continue it and evidently something goes wrong, or... | 0:46:13 | 0:46:19 | |
I don't know what's happened. | 0:46:21 | 0:46:22 | |
But I've got to find that out. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Nigel is going online at Boconnoc House to search for any | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
information about his great-great-grandfather. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:35 | |
David. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:40 | |
Couch. See if we can find any reference in a newspaper. | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
Let's search that. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:50 | |
Something that says, Bryant versus David Couch, hang on a minute, | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
Bryant. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:00 | |
There was someone in the... Ann Bryant, house servant. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
Hang on a minute, right. Now, I'm going to magnify this. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:14 | |
"Trecan Gate Petty Sessions, 6th April. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:23 | |
"Ann Bryant versus David Couch of Boconnoc, affiliation order made..." | 0:47:23 | 0:47:27 | |
Affiliation order. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:29 | |
I don't know what that means. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
"An affiliation order made for five shillings per week for six | 0:47:33 | 0:47:37 | |
"weeks, midwife, Mr..." | 0:47:37 | 0:47:39 | |
What's this, so something happened here, did she have a baby? | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
Is that what happened? They... | 0:47:45 | 0:47:47 | |
He, he, erm... | 0:47:48 | 0:47:49 | |
So, it looks like, what it looks like is they had an affair. | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
He had an affair with the servant girl | 0:47:58 | 0:48:05 | |
and made her pregnant. | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
He just couldn't resist it. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
A bit of a cad, really! | 0:48:11 | 0:48:13 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:48:13 | 0:48:15 | |
Oh, dear. I've been playing those sort of parts for years. | 0:48:15 | 0:48:19 | |
David Couch, you naughty boy. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
Nigel hopes that social historian, Dr Tom Nutt, can shed some light | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
on his great-great-grandfather's affair with the family servant. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
And what I've discovered is that my great-great-grandfather, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
David Couch managed to get the, er, house servant pregnant. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:50 | |
Now, what is an affiliation order? | 0:48:50 | 0:48:52 | |
Affiliation is the legal process for dealing with illegitimate children. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:57 | |
Right. | 0:48:57 | 0:48:58 | |
Firstly, determining the paternity of the child, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:02 | |
and then the second step is a maintenance order. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
-Right. -That is, er, putting the father, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:09 | |
David Couch, erm, under an order to pay two shillings and six pence, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:13 | |
in this case for maintenance. | 0:49:13 | 0:49:15 | |
It says on Friday, April 15th 1853, at the Trecan Gate Petty Sessions. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:21 | |
What, what would they be? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
Well, the Petty Sessions, er, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:24 | |
-was what we would now think of as the magistrate's court. -Ah! | 0:49:24 | 0:49:28 | |
In 1853, according to the laws of the time, the onus | 0:49:29 | 0:49:33 | |
was on 19-year-old servant girl, Ann Bryant, to stand up in court | 0:49:33 | 0:49:37 | |
and prove her child's father was the boss's son, David Couch. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:41 | |
How could Ann Bryant prove | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
that David Couch was the father, I mean what, | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
what evidence is required to do that? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
Ann probably would have brought in witnesses to the court, so... | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
What, ie they'd seen us in bed together? | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
Well, it could be in fact actually, erm, very often | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
it'll be the woman's mother or father or even a brother or | 0:50:01 | 0:50:05 | |
sister who might say that they'd seen them walking out together. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:09 | |
So this actually proves... | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
Ann Bryant has proved... that the child is... | 0:50:11 | 0:50:15 | |
-David's. -..is David's. -That's right. -That's basically what this does? | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
That's what it does. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
So, erm, what happened to the child? | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
Another certificate which I can show you. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
-Yeah. -And... | 0:50:26 | 0:50:27 | |
Oh, dear. This is a death certificate. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
So, on the 15th of March 1854, a year and a month later, | 0:50:35 | 0:50:43 | |
inflammation of the chest is the reason, the cause of death. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
Sadly, erm, deaths in infancy were very, very common. | 0:50:47 | 0:50:52 | |
Eleanor Couch Bryant. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
Heavens above, she's got the word Couch in there. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:57 | |
That meant that they'd got together, do you think? | 0:50:57 | 0:51:00 | |
I wouldn't necessarily take that leap, | 0:51:00 | 0:51:04 | |
but I think this, whatever the kind of relationship they had, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
was with recognition of the household, of the community. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
Yeah, she'd been taken into the house, er... | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
Yeah, when they come to register the death | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
she's recorded as having the father's name. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
The image I build about David is that he's a hardworking man who | 0:51:22 | 0:51:27 | |
had a fling, but he's not casting this girl and his child away. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:32 | |
What I want to now to find out is what happened to David. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
Aged 30, what happens to him? | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
Very nice to meet you. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:41 | |
Nigel is meeting family historian, Dr Joanne Bailey, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:45 | |
at the Boconnoc Parish Church. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:46 | |
Joanne, I know my great-great-grandfather, David Couch | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
had a child, a daughter and very, very sadly little Eleanor died. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:58 | |
-But I know nothing about what happened... -Yes. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
Well, we have a document that I can show you in 1862. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
-This is a decade later. -They were getting married. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
This was for a very happy reason, yes. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:08 | |
Very happy, getting married. Erm, to Maria Caroline Collins. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:14 | |
He's about 38. Oh, she's a widow. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
Yes. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:18 | |
And he's happy to take her | 0:52:18 | 0:52:19 | |
and her two children from her first marriage. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:22 | |
-Her two children. -Yes. | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
Oh, that's a good choice. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
I mean, the other option would have been to marry a young woman. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:28 | |
He's had experience of a woman much younger and it didn't go so well. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
He's showing some maturity, isn't he? | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
Yes, he's being very sensible. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:35 | |
Good for him. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:36 | |
Over the next six years from 1862, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
David and Maria Couch went on to have three children, | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
David Frederick, Elizabeth and Georgina. | 0:52:44 | 0:52:47 | |
But in 1868, tragedy struck again. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
And this, so... | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
-Georgina Mary... -Yes. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
-..Couch died. -Yes. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
And was buried on March the 26th. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
-And she... -Aged 20 months. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
Yes. I have the, erm, death certificate here. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:08 | |
Georgina Mary Couch, it says here, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
"Scald on the chest with white pot, lived two days, accidental death." | 0:53:13 | 0:53:20 | |
So what does that mean? Chest with white pot? | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
Well, white pots we think is a, | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
a local dish that was made from milk or cream and it... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
Yeah. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
..looks like Georgina, who was toddling, | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
has pulled the pan onto herself. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
-Yeah. So this is, oh, he's lost two daughters now. -Yes. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
-That must have been a shock. -Erm... | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Two days of hell, to live for two days, oh! | 0:53:41 | 0:53:44 | |
In the second half of the 19th century in England, more than | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
a quarter of children died before they reached their fifth birthday. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:53 | |
But after Georgina's death, David's family continued to grow. | 0:53:55 | 0:53:59 | |
Have a look at the register of baptisms. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
OK. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:05 | |
On March the 10th we have Georgina Mary, daughter of David | 0:54:07 | 0:54:11 | |
and Maria Caro... | 0:54:11 | 0:54:12 | |
hang on, but there's already been a Georgina. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
That's right, yes, erm... | 0:54:15 | 0:54:18 | |
Right, so that means that, that they waited and she has another... | 0:54:18 | 0:54:21 | |
Yes. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:22 | |
-..child, which happened to be a girl. -Yes. | 0:54:22 | 0:54:24 | |
So, I can see now, in remembrance... | 0:54:24 | 0:54:28 | |
-That's right. -..of... -Of the... | 0:54:28 | 0:54:30 | |
-..Georgina. -..first Georgina, yes. | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
-Difficult, that's very sweet, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
So shall we have a look at, erm, the next census? | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
Yes, that would be great. Yeah. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
This is 1871. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
David Couch. Oh, he's the head of the house now. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
Yes. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
He's a master miller. It's taken him some time but at 48 he's a man. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
Yes, his father John died in December 1864. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:58 | |
-Right, so there's David, there as head. -Yes. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
-There's his wife, Maria. -Yes. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:02 | |
-And then there's... -Frederick. | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
Frederick, Caroline and Georgina, the two daughters, and so... | 0:55:04 | 0:55:08 | |
-He made it there. -The line is now sort of forming and... | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
-That's right, yes. -..so I'm coming from somewhere now? -Yeah. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:13 | |
And from somewhere rather nice it seems. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Yes, it does seem that, that's good. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
But I know, I've seen records that in fact Jonathan took | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
-the mill over... -Yes. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:22 | |
..and I can't work out how that happens if you've got, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:26 | |
-David, you know, successful... -Yes. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
..with his three children, what, what, how does that? | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
Well, we can turn to the Estate Steward's Diary. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:36 | |
Er, and this is on the 17th. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
"A very busy... | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
"Couch's Mill bridge. Poor David Couch died this day at 1:30pm." | 0:55:40 | 0:55:47 | |
OK. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Right. God! So, he didn't really make 50, did he? | 0:55:50 | 0:55:56 | |
No, he's still 48 when he died. | 0:55:56 | 0:55:58 | |
So, David's established himself, he's been, you know, | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
-master in his own house... -Yes. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:06 | |
Head of the house. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:07 | |
And six years later he dies, where does that leave, er, his wife and children? | 0:56:08 | 0:56:13 | |
Frederick is David and Maria's son, and he's still too young, really. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
Frederick couldn't run the mill, he's about five, wasn't he? | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
Yes, so really there is no-one left. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:23 | |
With none of David Couch's children old enough to take over, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
his widow Maria passed the mill to David's twin brother, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:32 | |
Jonathan, who became the master miller. | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
Not wishing to stay in the area, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
Maria left Cornwall altogether, taking the children with her, ending | 0:56:38 | 0:56:43 | |
Nigel's direct ancestral connection to Cornwall and the mill. | 0:56:43 | 0:56:47 | |
David Couch was buried in the parish graveyard near the mill. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
Oh, here we go, there's John Couch, that's his dad. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:04 | |
So, I bet they're nearby. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
How about here? | 0:57:07 | 0:57:08 | |
David Couch, here he is, here's my | 0:57:10 | 0:57:13 | |
great-great-grandfather's gravestone. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
"Also of Georgina, the daughter." So, they're buried together. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:24 | |
Oh, that's really charming. | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
They're together, which is how it should be. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
That's wonderful. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:37 | |
There's one daughter that isn't named here, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:39 | |
but, erm, he had out of wedlock and losing not one but two children | 0:57:39 | 0:57:45 | |
is just such... Devastating, it must have been so devastating for him. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
I'm so glad that he, you know, got married and had more children, | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
I know he died very young, really, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
but I feel that he had a good life, so I feel good about it. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:00 | |
Discovering about my relations has been not only just emotionally | 0:58:04 | 0:58:09 | |
moving for me, but also, I don't know whether I can say this, really, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
but I've always been you know, er, | 0:58:12 | 0:58:14 | |
when I'm interviewed, you know, "You're such a posh actor," | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
the word "posh" always crops up. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
"You must be bored playing the same, you know, posh parts." | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
Well, as it turns out, I'm no posher than anybody else, which is, | 0:58:21 | 0:58:28 | |
which is fantastic. | 0:58:28 | 0:58:30 | |
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