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Actress Alex Kingston is best known for the formidable characters | 0:00:04 | 0:00:09 | |
she's played on British and American television. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
I suppose the roles I play, ultimately, they're strong females. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
They're not necessarily victims. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
I think I come across as quite strong as a person, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
but, actually, I'm quite vulnerable. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Alex lives in Los Angeles, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
but when work brings her back to the UK, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
she often stays with her sister Nicola in Surrey. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
At the moment, I'm a single mum, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
and I'm sort of living in America and here. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
My daughter, certainly at the moment, is in America | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
and that's where she's living and what she knows. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
And I very much feel because my life is so unstable, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
finding out about our roots | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
makes me feel as though I'm keeping us held together. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
I always felt that I DID know my family, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
but because I know I'm doing this, | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
I realise that actually I don't. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
I don't really know anything about any of them. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Today, I'm making my way to my parents' home. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
And it's ironic, really, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
that I'm seeking this | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
at a time when actually, personally, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
erm, I feel rather adrift. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
And it's really becoming quite important to me | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
that, at this moment in my life, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
I sort of really know who my family are, where my roots are. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
Alex and her two younger sisters were raised by their German mother, Margarethe, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
and English father, Tony, in Surrey, where they still live today. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
It's the English side of the family that Alex knows least about. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
-Hello. -Hi. Hello. How are you? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
-I'm good. How are you? -Fine. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
-Oh, hello! -How lovely to see you. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
-Nice to see you. -You brought sunshine, look! -I know. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-It was raining, pouring with rain, this morning. -Yeah. -Come on in. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
Ah, so I see you've got the... got the photos out already. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Yes. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
This is you and Nicola. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
And I think you were about 12 here. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-Yeah, if Nicola's about five. -Yeah. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
-Who do you think that is? -That's not Daddy? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
-Yeah! -Wow! | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
That is me. That was me and my mother. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
-Is that Mitty? -Yeah, that's Mitty. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
-Look at the hair! -Gosh, that's incredible. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
-Your hair is exactly like mine was when I was little. -I know! That's it! | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-You've got to thank your genes for me. -Yes, yes! To you. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
I do. I have to thank you for my curls. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
One thing that I've had people, erm, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
ask me, erm, in the past... | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
Because I suppose I don't have, erm, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
a particularly, erm, English face... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
I've been questioned and asked whether I am Jewish. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
-Or sometimes people have assumed I'm Jewish. -Really? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
-Was Mitty Jewish? -I don't know, but... | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
She never told me, particularly, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
but I do remember a slight rumour going round. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:15 | |
But it never got any further than a rumour, so I don't have any absolute knowledge... | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
-No, no. -..Of it at all. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Alex's paternal grandmother, known in the family as Mitty, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
died in 2008. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Alex never had the chance to ask her about their possible Jewish roots. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
But the family does have a few mementos of her father, | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
Alex's great-grandfather. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
This nice picture here, that is my grandfather William. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:48 | |
And on his lap... | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
is my mother. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
And he was killed... | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
in the First World War. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
And so my grandmother didn't marry again. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
And she came and lived with my father and mother. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
-So you never met him? -I never met him, no. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
He was a photographer. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-He was a photographer? -He was a photographer. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-Wow! I didn't know that. -And, er... | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
-You might be interested in seeing... -He had his own business, you know. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
..Some of his photographs. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
This is one. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-It's a self-portrait. -That's a self-portrait. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Oh, my gosh! | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-Good looking, wasn't he? -Yeah. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
This is another shot that he took of his, er, son... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
Who's Bernard. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
-Bern, Uncle Bern. -Oh, wow! -That's a lovely shot, isn't it? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
And he had a photographic business, I believe. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
The little toes are so cute. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
-And the little toga. -Yeah. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
Very, very lovely. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
This is, er, the record of, er, my grandfather | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
during the First World War. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
And he was in the RE, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
-which is the Royal Engineers. -Hm-mm. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
And rank - SPR. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
That may be sapper. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
Funny we never knew much about the Keevil side, did we? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
No. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:16 | |
Erm, but I suppose your mother didn't talk much about it? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
-No, they didn't, no. -No. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
I think my brother, Bernard, has some other facts about... | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
-Bernard. -..About them, as well. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
Alex wants to know more about her great-grandfather, William Keevil, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
and how his wife, Nan, and their young family coped after his death in the First World War. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:48 | |
Hello! | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Alex has come to see her Uncle Bernard in Kent. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
-Welcome. -Thank you. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
-It's been too long. -I know. Nice to see you. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. Do come in. Do come in. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
-Thank you. -There you go. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
I feel I must show you this very precious document, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
which I've been guarding for a number of years now, and discovered by chance really. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
Erm, it was found amongst Nan's possessions, in a drawer. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
OK. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:29 | |
-That's the address. -That's the address. -32, Santos Road. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Wandsworth. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
It starts here. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:36 | |
"Regret to inform you, officer commanding... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
BOTH: "55th Field Ambulance, France. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
-"Reports 11th August..." -And that's... | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
That's his number, isn't it? "Keevil..." | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-W... It's W H Keevil. -"Keevil." | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
"Royal Engineers." | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
"..Engineers, died 7th August, gunshot wound. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
"Left...thigh." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
So you've got... | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
What year was that? Hang on, what year? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Well, that was 1917. So that was the notification to Nan | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
-that he died on the 7th August. -Hm-mm. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
This is a copy of the Certificate of Death. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
-It just says he died of wounds. -Yes. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
Near Dickebusch, Belgium. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
But what moved me... I always find it very moving, very moving. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
Because... | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
She must have ripped that open, you know, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
in, in a sort of terrible anguish. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
When she received that, Bern was 16, Billy was 10, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
and my mother was four. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
So there she was, you know, a single mother, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
erm, faced with this awful news. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
BUT she put her head down in 32, Santos Road, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
and started taking in lodgers to make ends meet. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Erm, supported by the war pension, war widow's pension, which wouldn't have been great. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
I suppose I'm left wondering | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
in what capacity he joined the Great War. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Potentially, he might have taken photographs. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
And so I want to now know more about William's career. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
And also what made him choose photography. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Does the interest in the arts and certainly in a NEW form of art... | 0:09:22 | 0:09:27 | |
Erm, does that go even back further? | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
-Mm. -So that would be really... | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
It would be a wonderful thing to find out. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
Alex has come to Wandsworth, South London, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
where William Keevil's family lived at 32, Santos Road | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
at the time they heard the news of his death. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
She's on her way to the Battersea Library to investigate her great-grandfather's | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
pre-war career as a photographer. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Local history archivist Ruth MacLeod has been collecting records for William Keevil. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
-Got some certificates for you. -OK. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-So this is actually the earliest of the ones we've got. -Right. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
So this is 1875. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Gosh! | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
William was born on the 7th November. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
So that's his name there. So it's William Henry. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
-William Henry. -And then his parents' names. Walter Keevil. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
-Walter Keevil and Ellen Keevil. -Ellen Keevil, formerly Law. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
-Formerly Law. -And then there's his father's occupation. -Lawyer's clerk. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
-So that's kind of lower middle class, really. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
So we've also had a look on the Census for 1891. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
And we can have a look at what he was doing a few years later. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-So... -William... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
-William there is 15. -And he's working as well. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
-Cos that's his occupation. -At 15, he's a lantern slide maker. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
I just wonder what it was that made him so fascinated in images. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
I was thinking that maybe the father or the mother might have... | 0:11:16 | 0:11:21 | |
might have been an artist or might have had some connection. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
-A kind of following in somebody's footsteps. -Yes. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Yes. Because on the whole, that's what one would do, I would imagine. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
It's fascinating that he was a lawyer's clerk, but yet... | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
William's a lantern slide maker. That's fascinating. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
The next thing I've got is actually the 1911 Census. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
Have a look. So there he is. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
And he's now described as being a magic lantern slide manufacturer. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:50 | |
Yeah. That's right. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
And a little bit further over, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
it tells you whether they're an employer or whether they're working. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
-Yes. -And that says "own account". | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
-Yes. So that means this is his own business? -Yeah. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
It's like being freelance I think, effectively. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
The next thing I've got for you is a 1912 birth certificate. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
And that's Mitty. That's my grandmother. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-And he's now described as a photographer. -Yes. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
So he's certainly worked through his training | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
and he's now an official photographer. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Thank you so much. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
I'm so thrilled that I'm finding all of this out. It's wonderful. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
So, erm, he definitely had a passion for photography. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:40 | |
And, erm, when he's 15-years-old, in 1891, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
-he's already, what's referred to as a "lantern slide maker", so... -Yeah. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:49 | |
-I would say that's probably photography. -I would imagine so. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
They just use a different term for it, but it's probably the same thing. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-It sounds like they're connected. -Yes. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
But you might want to talk to somebody who knows a bit more about photography and the history of it. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:06 | |
I really do want to find out a little bit more about William's career, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
because he was working as a photographer | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
in one form or another for 20 years. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
So I'd like to know a little bit about what that work would have encompassed. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:33 | |
Alex has come to the National Media Museum in Bradford. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
She's here to meet photographic historian Michael Pritchard. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
I am learning about my great-grandfather | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
and the Census records in 1891, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
erm, place him, aged 15, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
as a lantern slide maker. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
And then in 1912, erm, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
he's described as a photographer. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
-That's a fairly natural progression because it's moving him up the career ladder, if you like. -Right. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:21 | |
And he's ended up in a position where, effectively, he's in charge of his own business | 0:14:21 | 0:14:26 | |
or working for someone as a photographer. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
He starts off at 15 or so as that lantern slide maker. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
And I think that's interesting. Do you know what a lantern slide is? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
I don't know what a lantern slide is and 15 to me seems rather young. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
At that time people were leaving school at either 12 or 14, anyway. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
-Right. -So it would have been absolutely normal for him to be moving into a trade of some sort. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:49 | |
What he's doing is, basically, making a slide for projection | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
in the same way that, a few years ago, we'd have looked at 35mm slides on a screen, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
or now we're looking at PowerPoint presentations. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
But he was making the 1890s equivalent of that. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Magic Lanterns had been in use for 200 years before the invention of photography, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:14 | |
using candles and later oil lamps | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
to project drawn and painted images. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
But once they could project images from real life, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
magic lantern shows became even more popular. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
It was at this time, in its heyday before the rise of cinema, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
that William Keevil joined the industry. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
This is a photographic slide and this would have been a normal picture taken through a camera. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:44 | |
And then the image would have been printed on to a piece of glass. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Local high street photographers, a bit like William ended up, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
would go and photograph around their locality, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
the local sort of religious groups, church groups, school groups. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
Then hold a lantern show evening, where they'd project their slides | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
And, of course, they would charge a fee to come and see the show. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
We're just on the cusp of cinema at this point, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
so it's before moving pictures had really got seen by a mass audience, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
and the magic lantern was the way of having that communication | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
-with a large group of people. -Yeah. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
So this is the lantern projecting and... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Gosh! | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
-This slide... -That's Trafalgar Square. -It is. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
And it's Trafalgar Square, probably, what? Round about the turn of the century, I suspect. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
This is exactly the type of slide that the local photographer would be producing, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
or one of the big companies would commission a photographer to go out and shoot. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
-So it is sort of journalistic, really, isn't it? -Yes, it is. Very much so. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
I was thinking, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
this was such an unusual career choice for this young boy, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
because his father was a solicitor's clerk. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
So I imagine that... | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
he must have been absolutely passionate about photography | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
and this new, erm... | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
burgeoning, er, world | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
of cameras and, erm, slide shows. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
He must have been really passionate for his father, I think, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
probably to allow him even to enter into that world. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
After 20 years working his way up the ranks, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
fixing cameras, developing and printing pictures, | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
in 1912, William Keevil became a photographer in his own right, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
earning a solid middle-class income in a thriving industry. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
Despite the launch in 1900 of a popular amateur camera, the Kodak Box Brownie, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
people still wanted portraits produced in a studio for display in their homes. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
The studios provided painted backdrops, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
elegant furnishings and props to produce opulent portraits - | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
a service that became even more popular at the outbreak of the First World War in 1914. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:11 | |
At that point, photographers become very much in demand | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
because all of those soldiers and young people going off to the First World War | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
wanted to leave something behind in case they didn't come back. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-Right. -William, as a photographer at that point, would have started to have got very busy, I suspect. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
The next question that I just have for you is, erm, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
he was part of the Royal Engineers, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
so I wondered whether potentially his skill as a photographer | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
might have been, erm, used? | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
That's actually really interesting because the Royal Engineers is... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
They have a very long history and association with photography, | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
right back to the 1850s, when they used photography for mapping and all sorts of things. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
I know the outcome of William going to war. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Er, he was killed. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
I'm still not 100% sure how he was killed | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
and also I question what the capacity was in which he went. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
I can't imagine that he went as a young soldier on the front, because he wasn't that. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
So I can only guess | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
that it was something to do with his photographic skills. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
But in what capacity, I don't know. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
Alex has come to the Headquarters of the Royal Engineers in Kent. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
She's meeting military historian Peter Chasseaud. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
One of the problems with First World War soldiers is that a lot of the records, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
which ought to be in the National Archives, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
were actually destroyed by enemy bombing in the Second World War, what we call the "Burnt Records". | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
Unfortunately, William Keevil's was one of those. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
But there are other sources of information we can turn to, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
in particular, the medal card here. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
You've got a couple of numbers here. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
The first one indicates that he actually joined up in February, 1915. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
And the other number there, 550483, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
tells us that he was in the 3rd London Field Company. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
-And the rank, SPR, which is abbreviation for sapper. -Yes. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:31 | |
So in the Royal Engineers, a private soldier, essentially, is called a sapper, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:36 | |
just as in the Royal Artillery, he's called a gunner. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
The Corps of Royal Engineers was established in the 18th century | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
to provide basic engineering support to the infantry, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
digging trenches and building bridges. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
But the corps was also quick to embrace new technology, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
adapting modern inventions, like the telephone and the camera, for military use. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
So by the time William Keevil joined the Royal Engineers, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
sappers had new roles in communications and intelligence gathering. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-If we can just look at that... -Yes. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
-..death certificate. It was 1917 when he was killed. -Yes. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
He belonged to the 5th Field Survey Company. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Yes. So he moved, he moved from the 3rd London... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
Yes, he transferred, that's right. And field survey companies used photographers | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
in the sound ranging sections, right? | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
-What do you mean by sound ranging? -I see you're looking puzzled there. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
The sound ranging is where you try and locate the position of the enemy gun or battery when it fires | 0:21:35 | 0:21:42 | |
from the sound waves and the sound ranging recording apparatus. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
It actually records the sound waves on a film, photographic film. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
Sound ranging was at the leading edge of military technologies available in 1916, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
decades before development such as radar. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
Microphones were laid as close to the enemy lines as possible, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
and cables conveyed the sound back to headquarters. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
The sound waves were captured on photographic film, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
in much the same way as a heart rate monitor does today. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
And by analysing this film, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
the enemy's guns could be precisely located. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
-Here, we have some original... -Gosh! | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
..Film, 35mm film. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
You may be able to see some kicks in turn in those strings. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Oh, yes, I can! | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
-And from those kicks... -Oh, my gosh! Yes! There's one there! | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
-There's one there! -That's right. -Yeah. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
So what those kicks are telling us is that the sound wave is reaching one microphone after the other, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:54 | |
and you can read off from the vertical divisions the time interval. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Oh, my goodness! | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
And from that time interval they can actually read the position of the German gun. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:05 | |
So you were talking about William Keevil having photographic experience. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
This is precisely the sort of person that the Royal Engineers would have been looking for. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
The portrait photographer William Keevil | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
suddenly found himself handling complex equipment in the midst of battle. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
When conditions were favourable, like in the Battle of Arras in Northern France in early 1917, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:34 | |
sound rangers helped to identify as much as 90% of enemy artillery positions before the assault began. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:40 | |
But in Belgium, in the summer of 1917, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
William Keevil and his section faced the worst possible conditions. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
At the Third Battle of Ypres, also known as Passchendaele, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
the Germans held higher ground and pounded the Allies with artillery fire | 0:23:57 | 0:24:01 | |
as heavy rain moved in. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Sound ranging became all but impossible. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Some of the experiences are actually described | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
in this book about the sound rangers, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
which talks about William's section here. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
Now this was actually written by the officer | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
who was commanding him during that period. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
Wow! | 0:24:29 | 0:24:30 | |
"Disaster sometimes came to the sound ranging line system, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
"particularly at the opening of an offensive, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
"and to meet such an emergency the whole section was organised to form line repairing parties." | 0:24:38 | 0:24:43 | |
If things happened, like intense German shell fire, that disrupted all the microphone lines... | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
-Yes. -The cables laid along the ground. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Everyone would be going out on the lines repairing these. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
So it didn't matter if he was a photographer or not, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
he would still have been exposed in the open to heavy shell fire. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
-And we've got a couple of photographs here that show the way that... -Gosh! | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
..the artillery fire churned up the ground. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
Men and guns and mules and even tanks were sinking into this mud. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
-So ground conditions became, as you can see from the photos, absolutely appalling. -Horrendous. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:20 | |
Wow! And it's through this that the lines were laid? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
The microphones and lines would have been laid through these conditions. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:30 | |
The shelling was shredding their lines. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
The wind was lifting the sound away from their microphones. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
Sound ranging was practically non-existent. Everything was against them. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
I mean can you imagine having to do your job, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
but at the same time knowing it's pointless, but still having to do it. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
Now if we can just... | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
look at... | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
this bit here, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
-is I think very relevant. -OK. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
"The opening of the Third Battle of Ypres on July 31st, 1917, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
"was a fresh milestone in the section's career. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
"The line system was so mutilated | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
"that the whole section was organised into line-repairing parties." | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
-The whole section was organised into line-repairing parties. -Yeah. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
Everybody, yeah. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
"A photographer was killed and an officer wounded on..." | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
Now we know that officer wounded was Lieutenant Rothwell, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
who wrote this particular chapter in this book. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
So he survived the war. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
But we're talking about a photographer being killed. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:44 | |
And to try and amplify this, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
we can look at the War Diary | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
of 5th Field Survey Company. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
Oh, I need my glasses, hang on. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
-Yeah, 2nd Lieutenant Rothwell. -"2nd Lieutenant Rothwell." | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
-SRS, Sound Ranging Section. -"Sound Ranging Section. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
"Wounded in action by..." | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
-Shell fire. -Oh, shell fire. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
"Admitted to hospital | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
"on 7th of August. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
"Sapper Keevil, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
"killed by... | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
"shell... | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
"same date." | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
That's it. Yep. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
So that is him. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
And you've got the date on the death certificate, haven't you? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
-Absolutely. -7th August. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
So the telegram that Nan received | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
that said he was killed by a bullet wound in the thigh | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
was not completely accurate. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
It was, erm, a terrible, terrible business for everybody... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
-Yeah. -..Involved in that battle. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Passchendaele is remembered as one of the great disasters of the First World War. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
The campaign ended in November 1917. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Allied forces claimed a tactical victory, but at appalling human cost. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:20 | |
William Keevil among the 300,000 British casualties. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
I feel really grateful that I've learned this, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
if nothing more than to be able to pass this on to my father and to his brother, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:35 | |
so that they can close that chapter, in a sense, which I felt from both of them in a way. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:40 | |
I felt was still, after all these years, was still quite raw. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Because they didn't really know. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
I now feel that that's, in a sense, been laid to rest | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
at least that's what I'm hoping. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
Now Alex wants to pursue her family history further back. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
There has always been this very vague, unsubstantiated rumour | 0:29:13 | 0:29:19 | |
that there is some sort of Jewish history within our line. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:25 | |
And I'm hoping that there might be records | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
that might help me find whether this rumour | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
is a rumour or actually a truth. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
-Hello. Pleased to meet you. -Hello, nice to meet you? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
-Shall we go in? -Yes. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Alex is meeting historian Nick Evans at London's Jewish Museum. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
I've been able to look up some of your ancestry from the family that you know further back. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:54 | |
-For your grandma. Is that Mitty? -Yes, that's Mitty. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
If go back further from Mitty to her mother, and her mother again, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
we get back to a family who we know quite a lot about really, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
and we're able to document, and that's the family called Braham. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
That's as far back as we can get. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Erm, is Braham, is Braham a Jewish name? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
Originally, we believe the name was Abraham, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
because the name appears interchangeably, either with the "A", so Abraham, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
or just shortened without it, so it becomes Braham. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Following the female line, Alex is descended from the Braham family. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
Although Braham could sometimes be an adaptation of the Jewish surname Abraham, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
this is not conclusive proof of Alex's Jewish ancestry. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
But researching further, Nick has found compelling evidence in the details of Eve Braham's marriage. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:50 | |
This is the marriage certificate of Eve Braham. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
On the 12th August, 1847. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
She's marrying Laurence Emanuel. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Now his profession is... | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
"rag merchant". | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
And... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
his father is called... | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
"Uzziel"? | 0:31:12 | 0:31:13 | |
-Uzziel. -Uzziel Emanuel. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
And he is also a "rag merchant". | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
Yeah. Emanuel's father, Uzziel, was a very prominent but very orthodox Jew. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:23 | |
And therefore we can see how Eve was marrying into a very religious family, the Emanuels, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:29 | |
which is a very well-known name within Victorian Jewish society. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
Given that this was a very orthodox Jewish family that Eve Braham married into, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
then presumably... | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
I mean, if one's going to talk about pedigree, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
-they were Jewish? -Yes. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
But also here, we have the signature - | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
I don't know if you can make that out - of Simeon Oppenheim. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:53 | |
And it says here he's the secretary of the Great Synagogue | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
at Duke's Place. | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
And this was the representative of the Chief Rabbi, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
who was present here to sign the certificate | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
-to prove it was a Jewish marriage certificate. -Right. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
So Alex's family rumour of Jewish ancestry is in fact based on solid evidence. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:16 | |
But not all of the Braham siblings were upstanding members of Jewish London society. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
Nick has discovered a less than flattering account of Eve's brother, Lewis. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
So if we see here in a newspaper extract from the period. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:36 | |
Oh, my gosh! Right. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
"Low Life In London. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
"The husband of the heroine of the diamond ring versus Lewis Braham. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:47 | |
"This was an action brought by the plaintiff to recover £40, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
"money lent to the defendant." | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
-Cos £40 was quite a lot then. Yes. -A sizeable amount, yeah. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
"The defendant was introduced to the plaintiff by the latter's wife. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:03 | |
"He lived upon the plaintiff as long as he could, | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
"he having great difficulty in shaking him off. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
"The defendant used to drive about with the plaintiff and his wife, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
"taking him about to various places, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
"dining with him and inducing him to be extravagant." | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
"In addition, he borrowed of the plaintiff two sums of £20 each | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
"for the recovery of which this action was brought. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
"When called upon to repay the money, the defendant delivered a set off | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
"which he, the learned counsel, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
"characterised as one of the most impudent things that was ever attempted. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
"The jury then returned a verdict for the plaintiff for £40 | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
"and the judge, on the application of plaintiff's counsel, granted speedy execution." | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
What's interesting is that the judge said Lewis is a dubious character | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
whose testimony should not be relied upon. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
And for the judge to direct a jury is quite telling really about... | 0:34:01 | 0:34:06 | |
He was living a lifestyle that wasn't quite as becoming or orthodox as we would hope. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:11 | |
-And his poor mother! -Yeah, and his poor mother still had quite a few years to go. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:16 | |
So she must have seen this in a very prominent newspaper about what her son is getting up to. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:22 | |
Ooh, he's a party boy, isn't he?! | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
The Braham family matriarch, Elizabeth, had been widowed in 1827 | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
when her four children were all under the age of 10. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
Alex wants to understand how Elizabeth managed to make ends meet | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
as a single mother in the mid-19th century. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
So if we see here, the 1851 Census, I don't know if you can make out the actual address. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
9, Shepherd Street, erm, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
in the district of Hanover Square, Westminster. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
In the heart of Mayfair. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
Elizabeth Braham is the head of the household. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
But it says then here - rank, profession or occupation - lodging house keeper. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:11 | |
So presumably that's what Elizabeth Braham set to doing, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
to try and make some money for her family. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
It's not always desirable. People didn't always want to be lodging house keepers. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
-It was a way of paying the bills. -Yes. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
-She's strong, proactive. She's really keeping her head above water. -Yeah. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
And keeping her respectability by being financially independent, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
because there was very little support for widows at the time. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
-She was obviously a strong figure. -And that's funnily enough, exactly what Nan did as well. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
-Really? -Because, erm, her husband, erm, died in the First World War | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
and she had, well, my grandmother and her two brothers. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
They were all young children. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
And she then did the same thing, she, basically... | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
-It's interesting, isn't it? -She took in lodgers. -Yeah. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Today, Shepherd Street, where Elizabeth Braham kept her lodging house, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
has been renamed, and most of the original houses are gone. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
So Alex has come to a Mayfair club nearby to meet historian Catharine Arnold. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
Alex has further questions about her four times great-grandmother's life in the 1850s. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:39 | |
I, basically, learnt today | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
that I have Jewish ancestry. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
-And Elizabeth Braham, erm, lived till she was 84. -Remarkable. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
They're living here at a house - 9, Shepherd Street. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
And she is a lodging house keeper. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
But what I've noticed, er, and this has literally just struck me, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
erm, reading this Census, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
all of these houses are in Shepherd Street, which is where they live, | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
and actually I've noticed that there are quite a number of women | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
who are the heads of the household. In fact, almost all of them are. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
-Which seems quite extraordinary. -For the times. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
And also, a lot of them are lodging house keepers. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
-So it seems as though the men are very absent. -Yes. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
And there seems to be a street full of women. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:34 | |
-It seems to be quite a matriarchal establishment, doesn't it? -Yes. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
-With a lot of... -Is that typical? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
..Powerful women running houses. Erm, not normally. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
So this street must be something different. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-Something different about this street. -Something different. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
Something a bit out of the ordinary about this district or this street. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Right. Oh, my... They're not hookers, are they? Are they prostitutes? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:57 | |
SHE GASPS Are they?! Oh, my God! They're not?! | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
Are they really? Oh, no! | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
-Seriously? -Seriously. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
Erm, they could well have been running what were called "disorderly houses" or "houses of ill repute". | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
Oh, my word! Oh...! | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
Not necessarily actively pursuant in being prostitutes themselves, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
but running disorderly houses or houses of assignation. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
Rather like motels where people could rent a room. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
-Rent a room. -By the hour. Yes. -Oh, my goodness! | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
Prostitution was widespread in 19th-century London. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Somewhere between 50,000 to 80,000 prostitutes catered for all classes of clientele. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:42 | |
There were even guidebooks to help men choose their pleasure, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
from seedy Soho to the more genteel streets of Mayfair, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
where Elizabeth Braham kept her lodging house. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
These houses of assignation | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
functioned more like guest houses than brothels. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
After procuring their clients, prostitutes came to areas like Shepherd Street to rent a room. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:11 | |
I think you'll find this very interesting. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
This is the Leicester Chronicle. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
And it's just a small item in what they call "domestic news". | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
"A gentleman has poisoned himself | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
"in a house of ill fame in Shepherd Street, London, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
"which he had entered with a girl known in the locality as Polka Poll." | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
ALEX LAUGHS | 0:39:34 | 0:39:35 | |
Poisoned himself in a house of ill fame! | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
Oh, my God! | 0:39:41 | 0:39:42 | |
-In Shepherd Street. -Yes. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
-With Polka Poll. -With Polka Poll. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
Oh, my goodness me! | 0:39:48 | 0:39:50 | |
So, let's have a look at the next newspaper cutting. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:55 | |
"Last night an inquiry took place before Mr Bedford | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
"at the Rising Sun Tavern, Charles Street, Grosvenor Square, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:05 | |
"as to the death of Mr James Fairs, aged 24. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
"Mary Ann Dalton proved accompanying the deceased, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
"who was perfectly sober, to a house, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
"9, Shepherd Street, Oxford Street, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
"where he sent for a bottle of wine." | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
Wow! | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
Wow! | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
-Number 9. -Number 9. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
-That really says it all, doesn't it? -I'm afraid it does. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:37 | |
So Mary Ann Dalton IS Polka Poll. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
She can only be. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
What would be interesting is to find out about the last hours of James Fairs. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
It would be very interesting. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
-There'll be a record of the coroner's inquest. -Yes. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
So what we have to do is go to Westminster Abbey and look at the records. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:57 | |
-God, it's fascinating. -It is fascinating. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
-I'm loving this. -Yes. -I think this is fantastic! | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
Wow! | 0:41:05 | 0:41:06 | |
When I found that Elizabeth had been widowed | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
and she also took in lodgers. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
And I thought that was rather ironic really. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:24 | |
After having been on the journey with William Henry Keevil | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
and my great-grandmother Nan. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
And how she then took in lodgers to, basically, provide for | 0:41:31 | 0:41:36 | |
her small children. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
The difference is... | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
that the lodging that, that Elizabeth established... | 0:41:41 | 0:41:46 | |
was a brothel! | 0:41:46 | 0:41:48 | |
Erm, and, I mean... | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
This morning, all I can say is, this morning, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
I found my inner Jew. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
And, this afternoon, I found my inner whore! | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
I mean, it's like... I just, erm... I was not expecting that. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:05 | |
To learn precisely what took place in Elizabeth Braham's lodging house on the night James Fairs died, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:18 | |
Alex and Catharine have come to Westminster Abbey. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Original records of 19th-century coroners' inquests for the City of Westminster | 0:42:25 | 0:42:30 | |
are kept in the Abbey library's special Muniment Collection. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:34 | |
This is what they call the "inquisition" or inquest, as we'd call it today. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:40 | |
It's a very delicate, old document, so... | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
-But to make it slightly easier for us, I have got us a transcript here. -Right. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:49 | |
And here we go. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:52 | |
"Information of witnesses taken this 15th day of November, 1852, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
"at the house of George Henton, known by the name of The Rising Sun." | 0:42:58 | 0:43:03 | |
-Pub. -That's right. That's where they held inquests in those days. -Right. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
"Mary Ann Dalton." | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
-That's Polka Poll. -That's Polka Poll, yes. | 0:43:10 | 0:43:12 | |
"Information from her on oath | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
"that on Wednesday last, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
"about half past four, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
"I was with Sarah. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
"Deceased came and talked to us. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
"He appeared to be perfectly sober. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
"We went into Number 9, Shepherd Street, Oxford Street, together. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
"He selected a room and called for some wine. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
"Had connection." | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
-It's a wonderful phrase, isn't it? -Fabulous. -Lovely euphemism. Yes. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
COCKNEY ACCENT: I should really be reading it like this, shouldn't I? Polka Poll. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
Yeah. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:48 | |
COCKNEY ACCENT: "He took a vial out of his pocket and said, | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
"'Look here, I've something I mean to drink presently.' | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
"I said, 'What is it? Lavender water?' | 0:43:54 | 0:43:58 | |
"I asked him to let me smell it. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
"He laughed and said he would not and put it into his pocket. | 0:44:01 | 0:44:05 | |
"He sat a few minutes and began crying." | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
Aw! | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
"I came and got the wine and as I turned back again, | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
"he took the phial from the top of the wine glass. | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
"I endeavoured to get the glass away from him. | 0:44:18 | 0:44:21 | |
"I upset a little in doing so, | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
"but he put it to his mouth and drank it. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:27 | |
"He never spoke after he took it. | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
"He made a blowing noise with his mouth. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:33 | |
"He leaned on the sofa till the doctor came. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:36 | |
"He gave me no money. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
"The policeman came. He took the bottle. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:41 | |
"I drank some wine. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
"Verdict. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
"That deceased destroyed his own life by poison, | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
"being at the time in a state of insanity." | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
Dreadful business. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:55 | |
Well, I suppose, erm... | 0:44:57 | 0:45:00 | |
-At least, it WAS suicide. I thought maybe they'd killed him. -They'd killed him. | 0:45:00 | 0:45:05 | |
Very, very interesting. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:08 | |
Right. | 0:45:08 | 0:45:09 | |
The case happened in 1852. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
That makes Elizabeth... | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
-63. -63. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:16 | |
I suspect that Elizabeth knew very well what was going on. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:21 | |
OK. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:22 | |
And the reason that she doesn't appear in the proceedings of the inquest | 0:45:22 | 0:45:27 | |
could be that she wanted her name kept out of the papers. | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
-Yes. -And she wanted to keep a low profile. | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
Because Elizabeth had actually been up before the Bench before, | 0:45:34 | 0:45:38 | |
-many, many years earlier. -Oh... | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
OK. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:43 | |
Elizabeth was charged with keeping a disorderly house in 1827. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:49 | |
-Near Leicester Square. -Oh, my word! Near Leicester Square. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:53 | |
-Let's look at the documents. -All right. -Let's look at what I found. | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
Here's a headline from the time, in The Standard. | 0:45:56 | 0:46:00 | |
They're just in the newspapers all the time! | 0:46:02 | 0:46:06 | |
Right. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:07 | |
The Standard. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
"The defendant in this indictment, was convicted of keeping a house of ill fame... | 0:46:09 | 0:46:15 | |
"..Named the Sidney Hotel, in Leicester Street, Leicester Fields." | 0:46:17 | 0:46:22 | |
Which is Leicester Square. | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
Righty-ho. | 0:46:27 | 0:46:28 | |
I'm... You know what? I'm no longer shocked. That's all I can say. | 0:46:30 | 0:46:35 | |
It appears that Elizabeth Braham was keeping a house of ill fame | 0:46:38 | 0:46:42 | |
a full 25 years before the incident at Shepherd Street. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:46 | |
For women with no other means of support, the sex trade was extremely profitable. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:54 | |
Prostitutes could earn up to 10 times the income of domestic servants. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:59 | |
And landladies, like Elizabeth Braham, earned even more from the rooms they provided. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:05 | |
At the time, prostitution itself was not illegal, | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
so anti-vice campaigners often focused their challenges on public nuisance offences. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
Here's the indictment of Elizabeth Braham. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
Ahem! | 0:47:22 | 0:47:24 | |
"The jurors for our Lord the King | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
"upon their oath present that Elizabeth Braham, | 0:47:27 | 0:47:32 | |
"late of the Parish of St Anne, a certain common bawdy house, | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
"unlawfully and wickedly did keep and maintain | 0:47:36 | 0:47:41 | |
"on the days and times aforesaid, | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
"there did commit whoredom and fornication." | 0:47:44 | 0:47:49 | |
-Wonderful language. -"Whereby diverse unlawful assemblies, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
"riots, routs and affrays, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
"disturbances and violations of the peace of our own said Lord the King, | 0:47:56 | 0:48:01 | |
"and dreadful, filthy and lewd offences in the same house | 0:48:01 | 0:48:06 | |
"on the days and times aforesaid. | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
"As well as in the night as in the day, | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
"there were committed and perpetrated | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
"to the great damage and common nuisance of all the liege subjects | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
"of our said Lord the King." | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
-It's like Sodom and Gomorrah! -It really is. | 0:48:23 | 0:48:26 | |
Oh, my word! | 0:48:26 | 0:48:27 | |
"Cometh the said Elizabeth Braham in her proper person | 0:48:28 | 0:48:32 | |
"and having heard the said indictment, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:36 | |
"read the oath that she is not guilty thereof." | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
It's extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
She, literally, does not have a leg to stand on, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
and she's saying, "Not guilty, M'Lord." Quite extraordinary. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:48 | |
I think it shows tremendous guts and resilience, | 0:48:48 | 0:48:51 | |
because if we look at her life then, | 0:48:51 | 0:48:54 | |
she had four children under 10. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:58 | |
And she does not have any legal representation, | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
because in those days it was very, very rare to have any kind of advocate. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:06 | |
So she's defending herself. | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
"And concerning the matters within contained, | 0:49:09 | 0:49:12 | |
"to say upon their oath that the said Elizabeth Braham | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
"is guilty of the premises in the indictment within specified." | 0:49:15 | 0:49:21 | |
So she's found guilty? | 0:49:21 | 0:49:23 | |
-Yes. -And we then have no knowledge... | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
There's nothing to indicate how long she's in jail for? | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
-No. We do not know whether she went to a house of correction, as they were then called. -Right. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
Or whether she paid a stiff fine. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
And so the next time that we... | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
that we come upon her, | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
which is in the Census, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:45 | |
-that's when she owns the property at 9, Shepherd Street. -That's right. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
So she hasn't stopped, erm, her profession. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:53 | |
No. But she has gone below the radar. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:55 | |
-She's gone below the radar. -She's run a much more discreet operation. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
Yeah. | 0:49:58 | 0:49:59 | |
I'm now intrigued... | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
as to whether she continued | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
to work in this profession. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
But she did it very, very much behind closed doors. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
Or whether she became even more infamous | 0:50:26 | 0:50:30 | |
and ended up in jail, in bedlam, in goodness knows where. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
So it would be really fascinating to know | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
what those last 20 years, really, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:41 | |
of her life were like and where she ended up. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
To fill in these details, Alex is meeting historian Sarah Richardson. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:49 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
We start off here... the 1861 Census. | 0:50:52 | 0:50:56 | |
And you find her, er, in Marylebone. | 0:50:56 | 0:51:00 | |
In Northumberland Street. | 0:51:00 | 0:51:02 | |
This area, is this a step up? | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
-Yeah. Yeah. -Right. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
And now let's see, here it says, "Elizabeth Braham, head of the household, | 0:51:06 | 0:51:11 | |
-"widow, freeholder." -So she owns property. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:16 | |
Oh, what, she owns other property? | 0:51:16 | 0:51:18 | |
She... Yeah, that's how she's describing herself. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:21 | |
So below Elizabeth, | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
there is Rosa Matilda. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:26 | |
And she's a granddaughter. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
-There's a little... I don't quite understand. There's a little squiggly thing there. -Yeah. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:35 | |
So that means ditto. So Rosa Matilda's surname is Braham. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:40 | |
Well, there's only one male Braham, which is Lewis. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
-She can only be his daughter. -Yep. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
In 1861, the 72-year-old Elizabeth Braham | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
was looking after her son Lewis's 10-year-old daughter, Rosa. | 0:51:57 | 0:52:02 | |
Only two years earlier, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:04 | |
Lewis had appeared in the press during his scandalous court case. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
And I suppose he's just not in a fit state to bring up a child, I would imagine. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
So the care of the granddaughter has gone to Elizabeth. | 0:52:15 | 0:52:18 | |
Has gone to Elizabeth. Yes. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:20 | |
-So shall we check the next Census? -OK. | 0:52:20 | 0:52:24 | |
-So... -So this is 1871. -This is 1871. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
-Hang on. But Lewis Braham is now living with her. -Yes. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
And he's called himself a "financial agent". | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
And Rosa Braham... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
who's aged 20 now. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:41 | |
She's there. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:42 | |
That's a different house. 8, Titchfield Terrace. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:47 | |
It's in St John's Wood. So she's steadily moving upmarket. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:53 | |
I mean, my God! They... | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
She must have had amazing girls or something, to make all that money. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:59 | |
-And this is all a single woman doing this. -Yes. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
In this period, women were unable to own property if they were married. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:09 | |
There's this strong disincentive for widows to remarry. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:13 | |
Mm. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:15 | |
Particularly I think with characters like this, where, er, | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
they have this strong independent streak and entrepreneurial streak. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:24 | |
-They're going to lose everything to a man. -Mm. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:28 | |
Elizabeth remained a widow until her death at the age of 84. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:40 | |
By the law of coverture, had she remarried, her property would have gone to her husband, | 0:53:40 | 0:53:44 | |
unless it was vested in a trust. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:47 | |
But not only did Elizabeth hold on to her property in her lifetime, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
she continued to protect it after her death. | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
So shall we move on, maybe, to her will. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
God, this paper again. Look at that writing! | 0:54:04 | 0:54:07 | |
SHE GASPS | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
-That's her signature there, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:12 | |
"This is the last Will and Testament | 0:54:13 | 0:54:17 | |
"of me, Elizabeth Braham. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:20 | |
"I give and bequeath all my plate, linen, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
"china, glass, books, | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
"pictures, prints | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
"wines, linen, furniture | 0:54:30 | 0:54:33 | |
"and other household effects unto my son, | 0:54:33 | 0:54:36 | |
"Louis Braham. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
"I give and bequeath unto my granddaughter, Rosa Braham, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:46 | |
"my watch and chain | 0:54:46 | 0:54:48 | |
"and all the jewels, trinkets and personal ornaments | 0:54:48 | 0:54:53 | |
"worn and used by me in my lifetime." | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
Wow! | 0:54:59 | 0:55:00 | |
"In trust as to my freehold houses, | 0:55:01 | 0:55:04 | |
"numbers 1 and 4, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
"Wade Street, Poplar, in the said county of Middlesex, | 0:55:06 | 0:55:11 | |
"for the said Rosa Braham | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
"and for her sole and separate use, | 0:55:14 | 0:55:17 | |
"free from the control and debts of any husband she may marry." | 0:55:17 | 0:55:22 | |
So these are the most valuable parts of her estate. | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
And what she's using here is the device of the trust | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
to protect the property from future husbands and so on. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:33 | |
So... My God! | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
She's so smart, that's all I can say. | 0:55:35 | 0:55:39 | |
So she owns... | 0:55:39 | 0:55:42 | |
Number 58. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
Number 56. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:47 | |
Number 54. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
And Number 52, Cochrane Street, St John's Wood. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:54 | |
And she also... | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
owns Titchfield Street. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:01 | |
-And freehold in Poplar as well. -Freehold in Poplar. | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
And she's all done that on her own. | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
Yeah. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:08 | |
And I think what's interesting about the will | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
is that, normally, you would have expected the property to go to the son. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
Yes. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
Through primogeniture, that's what would have been expected. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
But she privileges his daughter. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
-She's securing the future for the most vulnerable member of the family. -Yes. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
-The girl that she brought up. -Wow! | 0:56:32 | 0:56:34 | |
How much was she worth then, would you say? | 0:56:36 | 0:56:38 | |
Well, she's leaving around £1,500 of freehold and leasehold property. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:44 | |
The nearest comparison I can give you is, somebody who dies in the same year as her | 0:56:44 | 0:56:48 | |
is the explorer David Livingstone. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
And he leaves around the same amount. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
So you're talking about respectable upper middle class, comfortably off. | 0:56:54 | 0:56:59 | |
Gosh, it's fascinating. | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
I love it. It's amazing. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 | |
I mean, really, really amazing, considering that she was widowed. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:09 | |
-Quite young. -Quite young. -With four young children under... -Yes. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
What you'd expect for somebody in that position is for them to sink into poverty. | 0:57:12 | 0:57:18 | |
She doesn't just survive, she prospers. She's thinking ahead. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
-She's astute, and this is somebody who's quite a strong woman. -Yes. | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
That's amazing. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:27 | |
This a journey that I really had no sense of | 0:57:34 | 0:57:39 | |
where it was going and how it was going to conclude. | 0:57:39 | 0:57:43 | |
Not only did it become, sort of... | 0:57:43 | 0:57:46 | |
I felt like I was reading the News Of The World or something! | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
Opening every day... I was like opening another page and there... | 0:57:49 | 0:57:53 | |
Erm... | 0:57:53 | 0:57:55 | |
But actually at the end of it, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
I've come away thinking, wow! | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
What an extraordinary force of nature this woman was. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:06 | |
So I'm really... I'm just so thrilled | 0:58:09 | 0:58:14 | |
to have been taken on this... | 0:58:14 | 0:58:16 | |
Well, it's been a roller coaster of a journey, really. | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
Emotionally, erm... | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
but fantastic! | 0:58:24 | 0:58:27 | |
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