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I love Coronation Street and I love working. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
Many people say when are you going to retire? | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
I just say that's not an option. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Eighty-year-old actor William Roache | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
has been on British television screens almost continually | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
for over 50 years in his role as Ken Barlow in Coronation Street. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
I don't think you understand, Ken. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
I want you to walk out of that door and out of our lives. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
He is now the world's longest-serving actor | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
in a drama serial. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
-Hi, Bill. -Hello. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
How's it going? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
'I never expected fame, nor did I go into it to be famous.' | 0:00:42 | 0:00:47 | |
So, the usual full make-up. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
I just wanted to be a good actor and I wanted work, I wanted to work. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
The strength and determination, if I got it from anybody, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
I got it from my mother. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
She's a lovely person, my mother, but she had a tough childhood. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Her father, Albert, drank. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
And she hated her father, she just hated him. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
But her mother, my grandmother, was a lovely person. She was called Zillah. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
All I remember of her was a very lovely, kind, wonderful woman. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:21 | |
'Loved to have known her better.' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
I would love to know more about her background. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
My mother's name was Hester Vera, but we called her Essie. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
She wasn't a tactile loving mother, but I knew she loved me, | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
and cared for me and would look after me. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
She talked very little about her own childhood. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
Only when things would crop up and I could piece things together. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
But she wouldn't deliberately talk about the past at all. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
To discover more about his mother Hester's childhood, | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
and to find out about | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
his grandparents Albert | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
and Zillah Waddicor, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
Bill is travelling back | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
to the area where he grew up. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
I'm coming back to my roots, as it were, in Derbyshire, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
to visit Peggy, the widow of my cousin Geoffrey. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Who knows what she has there. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:53 | |
I certainly have no pictures of my grandparents | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
on my mother's side, Zillah and Albert. None at all. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Bill's cousin Geoffrey died two years ago. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
He left an archive of family material with his widow, Peggy. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
Hello, Bill! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
Peggy. Lovely to see you. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Come in, love. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
Ah! | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
It's a long time since I saw you. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
-It is, isn't it? But lovely to see you. -Yes. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Thank you. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Now, Bill, there's... | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
Ah, is that Zillah and Albert? | 0:03:33 | 0:03:34 | |
And Albert. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
-Wow. -Yes. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
Now, this is the first picture I have ever seen of Zillah and Albert. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
Look at Albert as a young man. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
-Yes, they were handsome. -Very dashing. -Yeah. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
I remember him as an old man, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
but I never remember having a conversation with him. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Mmm. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:52 | |
You get the feeling his daughters didn't like him. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
I know my mother didn't like him at all. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Never heard anything mentioned at all about him. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
No, they didn't talk about him. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
There were certainly no loving comments ever, anything at all. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
-He wasn't a doting father, was he? -No. No, he wasn't. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-Now then. -Isn't that a lovely photo? | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Oh, it's a beautiful picture. The three daughters. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
Yeah. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Flo, my mother Essie and May. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
I've never seen a picture of them together like that. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
You know, it's marvellous to see my mother as a young girl, almost. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
Yes. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:27 | |
-Cos my mother was the youngest, wasn't she? -Yes. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
I don't know if you ever heard, Peggy, but I heard there was | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
something - one of the sisters was not the full child. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
I have a feeling it was Auntie May. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
No, I didn't hear that. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
No. There's no evidence of this and I can't remember the detail. Who knows? | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Now, this is lovely. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
-That's an interesting one, isn't it? -Mmm. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
Is that Albert? He looks like Albert. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
He does. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
So that must be Albert's father. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
Yes. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
But he looks to be a man of means. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
Yes. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
This is later years, of course. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
Oh, boy! Albert and Zillah. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Yeah. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:05 | |
That's at Alton Towers. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
It is, yes. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
-That was taken at Alton Towers. -Yeah. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I remember Zillah started the Alton Towers Cafe which was her business. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
That's right. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
Doing dinners and weddings. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
Yes. She was a very astute businesswoman, yes. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
As a child, I went there, and I can only remember little bits of it. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
Well, I have some pictures of Alton Towers. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
-Oh, have you? All right. -Old ones. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
Wow! | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
Wow, that's it, that's Alton Towers. Look at the building, it's amazing. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Yes. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
It was massive, wasn't it? | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
It was a fabulous place to go, wasn't it? | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Oh, wonderful. And that was their home. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
-As you know, it's a theme park now. -Yeah. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
But how nice to have that, you know, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
just milling around in your own back garden at Alton Towers. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Yes! | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
This is interesting. These are holidays that Zillah used to go on. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
Look, Paris. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
Oh, the Sacre Coeur. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Yeah, 1930, look. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
"Lugano, Switzerland." | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
She was quite a gadabout. I'd no idea she was a well-travelled woman. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:09 | |
But she never took Albert with her. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
Yes, he's not in any of them, is he? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
He's not on any photograph at all. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
She must have had a fair bit of money to go on these trips. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I wonder where she got all her money from, then? | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-Well, yes. -We need information, don't we, Peggy? -Yes. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
Thank you so much. Thank you. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
Pleasure, Bill. It's a real pleasure. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Seeing Alton Towers, that brought back memories for me, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and I'm really intrigued about my grandmother, Zillah. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
All these exotic holidays she went on. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
But how? Where did the money come from? I don't know. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
I need to know more about that. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
She ran the business. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
So I what I would really love to do now would be to go to Alton Towers. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
I remember this massive building. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
I mean, it's lovely to think it was the family home | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
during that period between the wars. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
I hope it hasn't changed too much. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
In my day it was all grassland and parkland. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
Little bit different with people. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
The actual building, I'm glad to see it's there. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Alton Towers is now a theme park | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
famous for its white-knuckle roller coaster rides, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
but was once one of the grandest country estates in Britain. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Bill hasn't been back since he was a child in the 1930s, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
and came to visit his grandparents | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
when they lived in rooms in the house. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
To find out more about the cafe | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
that his grandmother Zillah once ran there, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Bill has arranged to meet local historian Dr Gary Kelsall. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Hello, Bill. I'm Gary. Nice to see you. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Oh, hi, Gary. Lovely to see you. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
Welcome to Alton Towers. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
Oh, thank you. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:19 | |
The mansion has been uninhabited and derelict since the late 1940s. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
I used to come as a child. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
I remember oak panelling and I remember very broad floorboards | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
that I would pedal on my little tricycle. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
And I remember a suit of armour I used to pedal past as well. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
So you remember actually pedalling around this room? | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny, cos I was here as a child | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
and my family were running it, I feel quite possessive. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
I feel everybody's an intruder, all the people out there. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Wow. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
Well, Zillah's operation was called the Alton Towers Cafe. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:54 | |
But it was far from just a cafe, actually. It was a good restaurant. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
I just thought she did a few little weddings and teas. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
Well, let me just show you this, Bill. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
A guidebook from the 1920s, when Zillah would have taken over. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
Gosh. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
And then if we look inside, on the very first page... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
There's Zillah Waddicor, Proprietress. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Seating accommodation for 1,000 people. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
Cos when I was here as a child, it would be in the season | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
when it wasn't operating, so I'd no idea it was on such a big scale. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
Yes, she would have occupied quite a few of the rooms. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Wow, look at that! "Dine In The Mansion". | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
So that would have been the big appeal, that people could have | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
actually come and occupied a space that was formerly an ancestral seat. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
For over 500 years, Alton Towers had been the country seat | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
of the Earls of Shrewsbury, one of the oldest and most distinguished aristocratic families in Britain. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:50 | |
But the rapid growth of industry during the 19th century | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
had shifted power and wealth towards the cities, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
and the introduction of death duties meant that many ancestral homes | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
were being sold off, or even demolished. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
By the 1920s, the 20th Earl of Shrewsbury could no longer afford | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
to run his country estate, and was forced to sell up. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Oh! | 0:10:21 | 0:10:22 | |
Here would have been their main room. This is the Great Dining Room. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
-It's the biggest room. -Wow. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
So this would be the main banqueting room? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Yeah, indeed. And this is how it would have looked in Zillah's time. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Look at that! Look at all the staff. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
-She must have run a staff of hundreds. -Yeah. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
That's wonderful to see it. How she actually did it. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I can imagine people coming in and dining here | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
feeling like kings and queens. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
This is a nice one. It's looking from the other angle. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
Oh, they've got a bar. And a minstrel gallery. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
There'd be a minstrel gallery up there. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Yeah, that's right. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
I'd no idea how grand and luxurious it was. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
It's a shame that none of that is left now, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
the difference is quite stark, isn't it? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Absolutely. Yeah. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:13 | |
But that is marvellous to have these photographs. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
And, to think, my grandmother would have organised the whole thing! | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
She travelled a lot, I've just discovered. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
She went on all sorts of exotic holidays, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
so presumably she brought back ideas and things, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
so she obviously loved exotic places, and this is. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Absolutely. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
And do we know how long she ran this for? | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Well, that brings me on to an interesting document. Take a seat. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
This is a licensing document that relates to Alton Towers. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
"Register of Alehouse Licences. Alton Towers Cafe. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
"Name of the licensee, Mary Zillah Waddicor, 1925." | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
So she got her licence in 1925. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Yeah. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
So when did it move from the hands of the Earl of Shrewsbury? | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
When did they sell? Do we know that? | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
Yeah, in 1924. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
Oh, right. No sooner had he sold it than Zillah zoomed in and grabbed it. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
When it was sold in 1925, Alton Towers had fallen into disrepair | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
and its famous gardens were neglected. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
The consortium of local businessmen who bought it from the Earl | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
quickly set about restoring the gardens | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
back to their former glory to attract paying visitors. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
And the new owners leased several of the mansion's grandest rooms | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
to Zillah Waddicor to run her restaurant. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
What were the typical sort of person who would visit here? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Well, this is an example. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Oh, that's amazing! Look at the crowds. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
You can hardly find a gap on the lawn. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
That's right. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
Many of them would have been just ordinary working class folk, really. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
They all wear hats, really quite formal. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
And they're feeling that they're going to the ancestral home of | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
the Earl of Shrewsbury, they felt they'd got to put their Sunday best on. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
But it's packed, isn't it? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
The number of people that actually visited here per summer | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
is estimated at being upwards of a quarter of a million people. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
To cater for that number, even today with modern facilities, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
would be pretty demanding. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
So the organisation that she had to have to deal with that | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
was extraordinary, wasn't it? | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
We've got various menus offering varieties and packages. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
"Cold lunch - ham, tongue, bread and butter, tea and cake." | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
"Two shillings a head." | 0:13:38 | 0:13:39 | |
So you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
nine...ten choices. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
For all different sorts, not only all different sorts of tastes, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
but all different sorts of pockets and all different sorts of budgets, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
so if they were feeling particularly flush... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
There's a four-shilling lunch. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
Wait a minute, let's have a look at this one. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
"Soup, kidney or tomato." A choice of soup. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
"Roast beef or lamb." You're getting a choice here. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
"Potatoes and vegetables in season. Sweets, cheese and biscuits." | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
Wow, a four-shilling banquet. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
And the thing is as well, there would have been various sittings, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
so that there may have been | 0:14:13 | 0:14:14 | |
quite a number of thousand on any particular day, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
that would have come in here for one sitting and gone. The next would | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
have come in, and so she would have catered for a thousand at a time. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Wow! | 0:14:23 | 0:14:24 | |
So, in a day time... | 0:14:24 | 0:14:25 | |
I had no idea it was so vast! | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
The crowds that flocked to Zillah's restaurant at Alton Towers | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
were part of a new generation of day-trippers. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
Trade Union pressure had led to the introduction of half-day | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
Saturdays, so for the first time it became possible | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
for working people to take weekend breaks. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Alton Station platform had to be extended to accommodate | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
the large groups of workers arriving on special trip trains, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
often organised by their employers, | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
who saw visits to historic buildings as self-improving for their staff. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:12 | |
During the holiday season, | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
thousands of people visited Alton Towers every weekend. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
Now, she must have earned quite a lot of money while she was up here. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:29 | |
I would say so. What is this, then? | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
"Alton Towers Cafe", that's Zillah's business here. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
Who's it to? | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
It's actually to... | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
Ah, the Surveyor, Council Offices, right. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
"Referring to The Old Mill Buffet, Alton." | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
Oh, was that something else she ran? Something down in the village? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
Another little restaurant? Cor! | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
-You see the date. -1933. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
1933, So she'd been up at the Towers since 1925. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
Right. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
And then she must have decided, "I'll stay at the Towers, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
"but in the meantime we'll do something else." | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
She bought the Old Mill opposite the train station, and converted it. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
These are the plans that she drew up? | 0:16:05 | 0:16:06 | |
-Yeah. And here, this is the building. -Wow. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
From 1933 she was running this... | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
-And she was running... -..and she was down there, too. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Good grief! | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
Right opposite the station, so people get off the train, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
first thing they see is that, let's go and have a meal at old Zillah's. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Such an enterprising woman, wasn't she? | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
She was, yeah, absolutely. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
In many respects, it shows her as one of the leisure entrepreneurs | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
of the period. She had a definite eye for an opportunity. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
God, wow! What a woman! | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
But what about poor old Albert? Where does he feature? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
We can't find any mention of Albert. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Nothing at all? | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
We've looked, and her name seems to be associated with everything. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
It's always her, isn't it? | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
It's always her. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:53 | |
She's the licensee, she's the proprietress and she was the owner of this place. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Yes, and she's applying for all the alternations to be done. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
Yeah, Mrs Waddicor. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:01 | |
As there's no mention of your grandfather, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
obviously she ran the show. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
She had the idea, she saw the opportunity, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
she made the most of it. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
That is very, very interesting. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
She was totally the matriarch, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
and Albert was well and truly kept in his place. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
There are certain mysteries that have come out of this. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
Poor old Albert didn't appear on anything. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
He wasn't the licensee, he wasn't the proprietor, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
he was absolutely nothing. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
I know he was there. What was he doing? | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
But I am so impressed and so proud | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
of my grandmother Zillah, I can't tell you. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
The massive size of the empire that she ran on her own, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
and made it into a really big and successful business. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
She made money. I mean, amazing. But then, how did she begin here? | 0:17:56 | 0:18:02 | |
So the mystery is filling in those years prior to Alton Towers. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
To find out more about Zillah and Albert and where they came from | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
before they arrived at Alton Towers, Bill has come to | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
the William Salt Library in nearby Stafford, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
where he's meeting historian Dr Nicola Phillips. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
Bill, hello. Good to meet you. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
Good to see you. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
-Would you like to come through? -Thank you. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
This way. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
Well, Nicola, I've got some photographs to show you here. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
This is Zillah and Albert. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:42 | |
My grandmother Zillah was a businesswoman, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
she ran the Alton Towers Cafe in the early 1920s. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
We've got all this documentation of Zillah being the proprietress. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
My grandfather is just totally absent. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
It's all in her name. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:57 | |
For a woman at this time, this was pretty unusual, wasn't it? | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
It is unusual. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
I mean, we know of very few women in business in this period. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
In fact, it's known as a bit of a black hole for women in business. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:11 | |
They were lone figures in a male world. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
Just a few years before Zillah started her business, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
World War I had moved women into the workplace in great numbers. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
But when the soldiers came home, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
they were expected to return to their families. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Marriage bars were reinforced, excluding married women | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
from many occupations, to ensure that men were re-established | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
as the primary earners. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
And by 1920, the number of married women in work | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
had fallen to record lows of under 14%. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
So, running a family business like Zillah's was one of the few ways | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
for a married woman to make her own living. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
What's different about her is the size and extent of her business. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
-It was an amazing big business, wasn't it? -Yes. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
And also the fact that her husband was kept well out of it, wasn't he? | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
Yes. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
I mean, well out of it. He appears nowhere. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
So she could have held all the money. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Quite separately, yes. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:13 | |
Quite separately. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
And because the married women's property laws said that women | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
could actually hang on to their own separate property, their earnings. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
And, most importantly, profits from their own businesses. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Although social pressures kept most married women at home, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
the few who did manage to earn their own money, like Zillah, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
could take advantage of the Married Women's Property Act. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
This series of laws, which were extended in 1926, gradually put | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
a stop to husbands having control over their wives' financial affairs. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
So a generation before, say, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Zillah wouldn't have been able to keep all the money. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
Yes. In the 19th century, a wife lost her independent legal identity, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:01 | |
and effectively, husband and wife become one, and the husband can | 0:21:01 | 0:21:07 | |
take, appropriate all the profits and earnings from the business. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:12 | |
He could drink it away, he could gamble it away, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
he could give it away and there would be very little | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
she could do about it. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:19 | |
So Zillah's benefitted from the feminist campaigns | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
that led up to the gaining of the vote in 1918. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Yes. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:27 | |
And that in itself gives women a confidence. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
Yes. There's no doubt about it, she had a towering personality. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
She had these photographs. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
They are exotic holidays. Look at that. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
That looks like Italy or somewhere. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
She went only with her daughters and womenfolk. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
Albert is again significant by his absence. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
So not only is she making money, she's using it for herself. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
-Good for her. -Yes. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
She's living the high life. This is luxury travel. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Yeah. But no mention of Albert. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Now, is there any way of finding out anything about Albert? | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Well, I have a marriage certificate here. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Ah. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
Of his daughter, in 1928. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
"The marriage between William Vincent Roache and Hester Vera Waddicor." | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
Well, that's my mother and father's marriage certificate. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
And Albert Waddicor, my grandfather, is referred to as a gentleman. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:21 | |
Mmm. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
Now what did that mean? A gentleman! | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
To be a gentleman, you couldn't be in trade. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
You had to have an income, either from land, or... | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
And being in trade was not the thing to do. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
No, absolutely not. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
Albert, to me, was someone they didn't speak about. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
I heard he drank a lot. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:37 | |
Yeah. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
But I've seen photographs of him as a young man, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
very well dressed in expensive clothes, and he did have a presence. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
And here he is described as a gentleman. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Yes. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:47 | |
Must have been a man of means. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Gentleman is also a very aspirational status. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
It covers up a multitude of other things. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Right. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
In that it means that he's not working. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Yes. That is very interesting. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
That's the first indication I've had of anything about Albert. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
Do you have any more evidence of Zillah and Albert before...? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
Yes, there is. Just this way. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
We're going to have a look at some Census records. So, if you take... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
OK. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
I'm not brilliant. I'm not high tech, you'll have to help me. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
That's all right. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
Now, the most recent one we can look at is the 1911. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
In order to find the family, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:28 | |
use Zillah's name, because it's so unusual, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
I think it might find it faster. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
I think that helps, yeah. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
So put her first names in. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Zillah. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Waddicor. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:40 | |
There we go. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
OK. So we have Albert Waddicor, head. This is 1911, of course. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
"Age 35, married to Mary Zillah Waddicor," | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
and Hester, my mother, was ten. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
"Occupation - Ices and Temperance Drinks." Wow! | 0:23:58 | 0:24:04 | |
Now there we are, he did have an occupation. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
He did. Do you know what Temperance Drinks are? | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
-Well, presumably, non-alcoholic. -Yes. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Ironic, given what you know! | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
Yeah, what we know. He likes the heavy drinks. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
But, obviously, in his early days he had a business, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
so what was the address of that? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
Now then, look at this. "4 Princess Street, Blackpool." | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
I assume that was the home that Albert and Zillah lived in | 0:24:25 | 0:24:30 | |
before Alton Towers came on the scene. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
Yes. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
On the marriage certificate, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
his occupation is described as gentleman, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
but on a Census in 1911 he was described as | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
a seller of ice cream and temperance drinks - | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
what we would call ice cream and soft drinks now. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
So he wasn't a true gentleman, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
because gentlemen did not have a trade. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
I don't like to think anybody's all bad, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
and hopefully there's some good in the background of Albert. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
So I need to find out more about this shop | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
and where they lived in Blackpool. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
This is Blackpool. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
I've never actually stayed here on a holiday, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
but I did in fact switch on the illuminations a couple of times. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
To find out more about Albert and Zillah's life in Blackpool, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Bill has arranged to meet Blackpool historian Professor Vanessa Toulmin. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Hello! | 0:25:45 | 0:25:46 | |
-Lovely to meet you. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
Professor Vanessa. Bill, hello. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Right. Now I gather my grandparents had a shop somewhere around here. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
-Actually here. -Actually on the location! | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
-On this corner here. -Wow! | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
-I've got a photograph to show you. -Yeah? | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
-And there it is. -Oh, amazing! Waddicor's, there. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
Blackpool rock, lemonade. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
-And it was actually here? -Yeah. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
-This is it? -This is it. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Wasn't exactly a great property. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
No. It's what we call a shanty shop, literally, literally. A pop-up. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
-It was really just a front, wasn't it? -Yeah. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
-I mean, how deep back did it go into here? -Six foot. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
-Just into... -Yeah. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
Yes. So you'd get all the punters coming down here, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
and there, and you get all the punters coming on there. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
But to be on the front, you know, selling lemonade and ice cream | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
was a good business site, wasn't it? | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
I can show you a photograph of how many people would have seen them. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
Oh, wow, look at that! | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
This is Blackpool Carnival in 1923. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Now, look at the people, absolutely solid. Wow! | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Incredible. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
What was interesting, on that photograph, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Albert Waddicor's is the only big sign there. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Was this just the beginning of Blackpool as a popular resort? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Well, in the '20s there was about eight million people coming a year, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
-three times more than any other seaside resort in the UK. -Really? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
Yeah. And this area became known as the Golden Mile, because of | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
the quickness of time it took to put a property up and take money. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
Right. Not only did they pick the right place, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
-they picked the right place within the right place. -Yes. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
At the time Albert and Zillah were running their stall, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Blackpool was the fastest-growing holiday resort in Britain. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
Blackpool kept one step ahead of its rivals, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
and attracted increasing numbers of tourists with the latest in modern | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
entertainment, like the Pleasure Beach fairground completed in 1905. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:40 | |
The world-famous illuminations began as early as 1879, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
when Blackpool became the first British town | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
to have permanent electric street lights. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
By the turn of the century, all three piers | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
and the Blackpool Tower were complete, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
creating the Golden Mile Promenade where the Waddicors had their stall. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
Imagine the fairground. That's what the Golden Mile was like. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Yeah. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
Alongside your family stall, you would have had freaks, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
giants, um, girlie shows, you would have had the whole range. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
It's really, really interesting, because my grandmother went on | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
to run a business within Alton Towers to do with catering, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
so the fundamentals of all that they would have learned here, wouldn't they? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
Yeah. This was their training ground. The family learnt how to make money in Blackpool. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Yeah, that is very true, because you've got to learn the basics. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
Just selling something, selling ice cream and entertaining. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
I have a feeling it was pretty much Zillah who was the driving force. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
Albert possibly owned this and he was the man, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:45 | |
but I think Zillah was the force behind it. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
But we don't know. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Yes. Women in this kind of business were always incredibly | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
-entrepreneurial, it allowed them the opportunity. -Right. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
To find out how the Waddicors began their stall, Bill | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
and Vanessa have come to Blackpool Central Library which holds | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
information about local businesses dating back to 19th century. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:09 | |
The play where we took you today was known as Central Parade then. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
OK. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:15 | |
So this is a list of all the shops on Central Parade in 1924. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
Just before they went to Alton Towers. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
Is it just saying what businesses were on Central Parade? | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
Yes. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
Like Lee's Amusement Arcade and so... I see. Er, auctioneer. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:29 | |
They were mainly just ordinary businesses, weren't they? | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
Ah, 41, Waddicor, Temperance Bar. So this is 1924. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
It was the year that they went to Alton Towers. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
But it doesn't give the dates of how long they'd been there | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
in the directory. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
Can we find out when he started? | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Well, let's go back to the 1890s. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
To see how long they'd been... | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
This is the Trade Directory from 1898. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
About 26 years earlier. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
So let's have a look. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
There's Central Parade again. | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
It's not alphabetical, is it? | 0:30:00 | 0:30:02 | |
No. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:03 | |
Waddicor is at the end. Waddicor. He's now called "a herb beer maker". | 0:30:03 | 0:30:09 | |
So we know that he was there, then, in 1898. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
Having only had "gentleman" after his name when they were at Alton Towers, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
I'd understood that he was a kept man, in a sense, by Zillah. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
But here... No, it's his business, all right, isn't it? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Yeah. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:25 | |
"Albert Waddicor, herb beer maker." | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
And he's there for 26 years, that's right. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
But who was the power behind the throne? | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
Well, let's try an earlier one. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
This is 1896, so it's a couple of years earlier. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
Let's have a look if there's any Waddicors in this book. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
OK. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
"Central Parade. Waddington..." | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
"Waddicor, J. Medical... No, that's not it." | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
"Waddicor, J, medical electrician." | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
Is that Albert's father, then? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:53 | |
"Waddicor, J, medical electrician, Central Parade" - | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
I should have carried on - | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
"Central Parade." That is this shop in 1896, two years earlier, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
and it was a medical... He was... | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Albert's father, J, was a medical electrician. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
What does that mean? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:14 | |
I think they used to use electricity for treatment, didn't they? | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
Was he...? That's very interesting. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
So he had this little shanty shop, started out as a medical electrician | 0:31:20 | 0:31:26 | |
with his father, and Albert turned it into a herb beer temperance bar. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:30 | |
Yeah. I did find something else about Albert Waddicor. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
It's a bit fragile. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
It is, isn't it? | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
Yes. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:41 | |
Blackpool Herald in 1894. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Have a look on here. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:46 | |
Yeah. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
"A serious kicking affray." | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
"An excitable sandwich man breaks a youth's ankle." | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
Yes. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:54 | |
It sounds comical. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
"On Wednesday afternoon, as one of the sandwich men was proceeding | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
"through Foxhall Square, his board was struck by a marble." | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
"Conceiving that the missile came from the hand of a youth | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
"named Albert Waddicor..." | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
A youth called Albert Waddicor! | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
"..who was standing outside his father's shop..." | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
So it was his father's shop. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
"..he rushed at him." | 0:32:17 | 0:32:19 | |
"Waddicor was knocked down, and as he lay there, his assailant | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
"administered a kick which broke his ankle in two places." | 0:32:23 | 0:32:27 | |
Wow! This is 1894. So, Albert's about 18, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
what was he doing throwing marbles at sandwich men? | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
He must have had a little bit of a sort of vandal in him somewhere. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:40 | |
However, he got his ankle broken in two places for it. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
So Albert might have been helping his father in the shop. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
Yeah. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:48 | |
Can we get any more information about Albert's father, J Waddicor? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Now we've got the initial, we can try and find him on the Census. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
-We can trace him further, can we? -On the Census. And this is the 1881 Census. | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Ah, now, 1881. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
And this is your great-grandfather. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
James Waddicor, who was 32. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
Alice would presumably be the wife, and Albert, the son. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:11 | |
There's my grandfather Albert. And then Albert was five. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
James' rank and profession. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
What's that word? Quarterly... | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
Quarry. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
Oh, quarry! That's quarryman from Darwen in Lancashire. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:26 | |
So he was just a quarryman. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
So James Waddicor, my great-grandfather, at the age of 32, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
worked in a quarry, hacking bits of stone, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
before he started this strange electrical medical thing in Blackpool. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
Well, yeah, but at some point in between 1881 and 1894. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
Yeah. So how did they get from Darwen to Blackpool? | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
The 1890s was Blackpool's boom period. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:54 | |
Blackpool was developing as the major English seaside resort, | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
so people were coming to Blackpool from all over the country. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
Ah, so he was attracted by the knowledge | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
that this was a burgeoning place. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
Bill has discovered that his great grandfather, James Waddicor, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
came from the industrial town of Darwen, 30 miles outside Blackpool, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
and arrived some time after the 1881 Census was taken | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
and before 1894, when his Promenade stall is first recorded. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:26 | |
The arrival of the railways in the 1840s had made it possible | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
for working-class people to reach Blackpool. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
And by the 1880s, it had grown from a small seaside village | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
into a flourishing consumer town. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
The holidaymakers who arrived from the mills and factories | 0:34:47 | 0:34:52 | |
had more disposable income than ever before to spend on leisure. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
The promenade and beach were soon lined with street entertainers, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
stallholders and hawkers, all vying to cash in on the tourists. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
It's a bit like the gold rush in the Wild West, isn't it? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Yeah, it is, that's a perfect way of describing it. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
And that it's called the Golden Mile, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
he took them to where money could be made. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
James Waddicor, the one who got the family, moved them out. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
He's the one who made the leap. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:22 | |
And really, at that time, that's kind of middle aged. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
Well, he's 32, yes. An older age than it is today, isn't it? | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
Yeah. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:30 | |
So it looks like James Waddicor was, again, quite entrepreneurial. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:34 | |
I'd like to know more about this electrical medical business | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
that he started in Blackpool. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Well, what I've found out today is, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
it wasn't Albert who actually started the shop. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
It was my great-grandfather, James, who started the business, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
and it was as a medical electrician, which I find very intriguing. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
I think it took a lot of courage and a lot of guts to uproot everything | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
and go out and try something new. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
So I want to find out more about James. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
To see what he can discover about his great-grandfather James, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
and his occupation as a medical electrician, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:26 | |
Bill has come to the Blackpool Tower, | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
to meet historian of science, Professor Iwan Morus. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:33 | |
-I'm Iwan Morus. -Hello. -Hello. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:34 | |
Now, my great-grandfather had a shop literally just down the road there | 0:36:34 | 0:36:40 | |
and he was doing something strange. He was called a medical electrician. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I'd like to know a bit more about that. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:45 | |
Oh, I can tell you all about medical electricity. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
-Good, good. -I think your great-grandfather's a one-off. -Oh, really? -As far as I'm aware. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
Medical electricity in the 1890s | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
is quite common, but I've never actually come across anybody else setting up a stall. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
Selling it to the general public. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
-Exactly. I've got an example of the kind of apparatus... -Oh, wow! | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
..that your great-grandfather would probably have used. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:09 | |
Would you need any training to be able to operate it? | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
You wouldn't really need any training at all. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
It's a very simple piece of apparatus. There's a magnet there. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
Yeah. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
And then there are coils of wire here, and I'm spinning this | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
so that the coil is spinning in front of the magnet. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
That's what makes it produce electricity. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
It's a very basic electric generator. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
Yes. I mean, that's exactly what it is. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
So was this medically accepted? | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Medical electricity was very much a sort of late-Victorian medical fad. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
The basic idea is that the electricity is meant to cure | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
a range of what the Victorians would describe as "nervous diseases". | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
Nervous diseases! | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
That covers everything, pretty much. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Yes, the Victorians were obsessed by nervous disease. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:53 | |
Medical electricity was a popular cure for what Victorians | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
thought of as nervous diseases, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
a catch-all term that covered a wide range of ailments. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
Since the late 18th century, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
scientists had established that electricity could be | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
conducted through the body to produce muscular contractions. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
And by the mid-19th century, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
electricity seemed to offer a modern way to jolt the sick back to health. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Many doctors began using electrodes to pass currents | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
through the afflicted areas of their patients' bodies. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
Portable machines, like the one James used, were widely advertised | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
and bought by both professional doctors and middle-class families | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
who used them to treat a variety of complaints. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
With no National Health Service, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
most of the working-class people passing by James Waddicor's stall | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
had little access to professional medical treatment. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
James offered them a chance | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
to try out this latest innovation for themselves. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Medical electricity - he's bringing something to the people | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
walking up and down outside this tower | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
that they probably wouldn't really get an opportunity to experience. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
They certainly wouldn't have electricity in their homes. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
In their homes. So it would be quite exciting. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
They've got the illumination, which is why they came here, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
but to actually go in and actually feel electricity for the first time, | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
you can understand them paying a few pennies for that. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
Do you fancy a go? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
I don't know. Are you going to electrocute me, then? | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
-Well, if you hold those... -OK. -..I'll be happy to see what I can do. -What voltage goes through it? | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
-We're talking about relatively small currents. -I hope so. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
-So, if you're ready? -OK. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Tell me when you want me to stop. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Oh yeah, yeah, I've got a tingling. Yeah, I can feel it, a tingling. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:06 | |
It's going up my arm. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
So that will have cured me from my hysteria, will it? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
That will have cured your hysteria, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
that will have cured your neurasthenia. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
But although he was doing this really as a thing on the front | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
to make a bit of money, they couldn't really harm anybody, could they? | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
He couldn't really damage anybody. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
But I suspect that the real skill that your great-grandfather had was something of a showman. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:32 | |
People would be coming up to his stall, they'd be paying a few pence | 0:40:32 | 0:40:38 | |
-for a go on the electrical machine. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
He must have had a sort of persuasive personality, mustn't he? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
A sort of salesmanship to lure people in. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
Whether it was good for them or not was beside the point. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
If he could get them in and get them out and get the money, that was it. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
That's the name of the game. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
I've got another document here I think might tell you a bit more | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
about what your great-grandfather was doing as well. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
-This is a Census form from 1891. -OK. Where are we? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
James Waddicor, my great-grandfather, | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
who was 42 at the time. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
That's quite old. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
-Yes. And read here. This is his profession or occupation. -Ah! | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
He was a phrenologist and medical electrician. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:22 | |
A phrenologist. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
So when he's not giving his customers a little jolt of the electric... | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
He was feeling the bumps on their head. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
He was indeed. That's what phrenology's all about. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
I mean, I've got a phrenological head... | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
-Oh, wow! -..down here. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
The idea is that brain is divided into different organs | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
and that you can read somebody's character by reading the bumps on their head. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
So if you've got a big bump here, then according to this, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
that's the organ of intuitive reasoning. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
So you can tell somebody that if you've got a bulging forehead, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
that means you're clever, or whatever you think | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
that your paying customer would... | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
And then electrocuting them, so they'd go out feeling really good. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
So from a particular bump on the head... | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
One there says "'selfish sentiments". | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
Here. I've got quite a bump there! Have I got selfish sentiments? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:13 | |
I mean, was there some foundation to phrenology? | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
Well, during the early decades of the 19th century, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
phrenology was very popular amongst the middle classes | 0:42:20 | 0:42:24 | |
-and this is a 19th-century cartoon that takes the mickey out of phrenology. -Oh! | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
A middle-class family would ask for phrenological advice before hiring servants, | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
so they could have some indication | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
of whether they were likely to run away with the family silver or not. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
"If this science be cultivated, the time will come when, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
"on hiring a servant, an examination of the organic manifestations | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
"of the mental faculties will supersede the necessity of further enquiry into character." | 0:42:48 | 0:42:53 | |
By the end of the 19th century, | 0:42:53 | 0:42:54 | |
when your great-grandfather has his stall here, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
phrenology is a very long way away indeed | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
from anything like respectable science, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
and in a lot of ways is regarded as a quite disreputable activity. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
Right. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
As you can see, if you take a look at this document from 1898. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:12 | |
So this is a letter | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
from the Blackpool Company House Proprietors' Association | 0:43:14 | 0:43:18 | |
saying, "That no permission be given by the Corporation | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
"for the carrying on of any of the following occupations upon the Foreshore." | 0:43:21 | 0:43:27 | |
Phrenology is number one. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:29 | |
"Phrenology, palmists, quack doctors." Quack doctors! | 0:43:29 | 0:43:34 | |
So phrenology is banned on the Foreshore in 1898. | 0:43:34 | 0:43:38 | |
That's right, yes. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
Phrenologists are clearly part of a culture | 0:43:40 | 0:43:43 | |
-that Blackpool Corporation didn't want in their town. -Yeah. | 0:43:43 | 0:43:46 | |
I wonder what he would move on to afterwards. | 0:43:46 | 0:43:48 | |
Just around the corner from where his family had their stall, | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
Bill has arranged to meet genealogist Mike Tringham, | 0:44:02 | 0:44:05 | |
who has some information for him about what happened to | 0:44:05 | 0:44:07 | |
his great-grandfather James after the ban on phrenology. | 0:44:07 | 0:44:11 | |
-Hello, I'm Bill. -How do you do? I'm Mike. -You're Mike. Hi, Mike. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:15 | |
Now, I gather my great-grandfather had a little shack shop | 0:44:15 | 0:44:19 | |
at the end of this street. | 0:44:19 | 0:44:21 | |
Yes. We are standing at the corner of York Street and Coop Street. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:24 | |
What I have here is a rate book from 1898 that tells us | 0:44:25 | 0:44:30 | |
-who owned certain properties in this area of Blackpool. -Oh, right. | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
-Well, there's a Waddicor. -Yes. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:36 | |
Is that J Waddicor? | 0:44:36 | 0:44:38 | |
-It is indeed, yes. -Yeah. 15 Coop Street, is it? | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Coop Street. | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
And the name of the occupier. Oh, so that is the name of the... | 0:44:42 | 0:44:46 | |
Oh, so what he's done, he's rented it out, has he? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:49 | |
That's right. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:50 | |
Can you see underneath as well? | 0:44:50 | 0:44:51 | |
17. Oh, that's still Waddicor. So, two properties. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:56 | |
Ah, Waddicor again. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
Number 43 York Street. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
And right behind you is 43 York Street. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
This was one of his? | 0:45:05 | 0:45:06 | |
-Yes, this one and the next two. Number 17 Coop Street. -Yeah. | 0:45:06 | 0:45:11 | |
Right here, and the far building is number 15. | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
So he must have made a bit of money while he was doing his phrenology | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
and electrical... medical electricity and things. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
He must have done. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
-To buy the properties. -We're talking about late 1890s, | 0:45:22 | 0:45:25 | |
and he probably picked them up fairly cheaply. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
Yeah, because the town was only beginning to grow, wasn't it? | 0:45:28 | 0:45:31 | |
Exactly, And very rapidly the value of them would have... | 0:45:31 | 0:45:34 | |
Zoomed. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
A canny investor could have made an awful lot of money | 0:45:36 | 0:45:39 | |
in a very short space of time, I would imagine. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
Good, good man. Oh, well, that makes me feel more comfortable. | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
-I was getting worried for him, actually. -Yes. Oh, were you? | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
He was 47, he's got a family, he'd been into precarious, dodgy things | 0:45:48 | 0:45:51 | |
on the front, they were passing phases, | 0:45:51 | 0:45:54 | |
so I'm glad he's now gone into something | 0:45:54 | 0:45:57 | |
-that's really secure at a good time. -Yes. | 0:45:57 | 0:45:59 | |
My grandfather, Albert, who was James's son, | 0:45:59 | 0:46:02 | |
-described himself as a gentleman. -Gentlemen. | 0:46:02 | 0:46:05 | |
And they were men of means, weren't they? | 0:46:05 | 0:46:07 | |
So he could have been living off the investments of this property. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
So, in a sense, he was right to call himself a gentleman. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
That's quite possible. It was a common term used when... | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
You didn't have to work. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:17 | |
..a person was of independent means. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
Do you have any record, you know, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
when things changed from James's hands to Albert's? | 0:46:22 | 0:46:26 | |
-Come on, let's go inside. -Let's go and find somewhere dry and warm. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:30 | |
Now, this is the will of your great-grandfather, James Waddicor. | 0:46:32 | 0:46:36 | |
He died in November 1904, | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
just a few years after the dates of those rate books. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:42 | |
He'd only be quite young, wouldn't he? | 0:46:42 | 0:46:44 | |
Only be in his 50s, would he, or...? | 0:46:44 | 0:46:46 | |
Yes, he was a relatively young man. | 0:46:46 | 0:46:48 | |
Poor old guy. | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
So the value of his estate was £4,792, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
which was quite a lot in those days, wasn't it? | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
Well, in today's terms, | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
the estate would be valued at between £300,000 and £500,000. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:05 | |
Yeah. I mean, really pretty good. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
-Quite easily. He was a wealthy man. -He was a wealthy man. | 0:47:07 | 0:47:10 | |
So, this is the will that's been transcribed so it's easier to read. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:13 | |
"I appoint my wife, Alice and my daughter-in-law, | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
"Mary Zillah Waddicor..." Zillah has suddenly appeared on the scene. | 0:47:16 | 0:47:20 | |
They're to be the executors of the will, totally disregarding Albert. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:25 | |
You had two women | 0:47:25 | 0:47:26 | |
basically controlling quite a substantial estate. | 0:47:26 | 0:47:30 | |
What is very unusual is that he's appointed his daughter-in-law | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
as one of the executors. We're talking about late-Victorian Age. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:38 | |
Yeah. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
And it would be very unusual to exclude one's son | 0:47:40 | 0:47:45 | |
in preference to the daughter-in-law. | 0:47:45 | 0:47:49 | |
The picture I have of Albert, from my mother, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
is that he was a pretty unsavoury guy, in many ways. He was a drinker. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
Not very reliable, and maybe James saw this | 0:47:57 | 0:48:01 | |
and trusted his daughter-in-law more than he trusted his own son. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
I think you've hit upon something, because look at the next part of the will. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:09 | |
"..Shall pay the surplus or net unto | 0:48:09 | 0:48:12 | |
"and profits thereof to my son Albert during his life | 0:48:12 | 0:48:18 | |
"and subject thereto and the life interest of my said wife." | 0:48:18 | 0:48:24 | |
So, to summarise, your great-grandfather James | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
has left his estate in trust to his widow, Alice, and on her death, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:33 | |
only the rental income from those properties | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
-would go to your grandfather, Albert Waddicor. -Yeah. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:41 | |
He had to wait for his mother, Alice, to die before he inherited only the profits. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:48 | |
But was unable to touch any of the capital. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:49 | |
He's not trusted with the ownership. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
It must have been very frustrating for him. | 0:48:52 | 0:48:54 | |
He obviously would be able to live well... | 0:48:54 | 0:48:57 | |
-As a gentleman, like he described himself. -Exactly. | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
-..but without getting his hands on those three properties. -Wow. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:05 | |
So there must have been some big reason why Albert was excluded, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
not just he wasn't liked or a bit unpopular, for him to do that. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:11 | |
-Definitely. It's almost unique, I would say. -Oh, right. | 0:49:11 | 0:49:15 | |
-I've never come across this situation before. -Yeah. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
That he'd leave his only son | 0:49:18 | 0:49:22 | |
-out of any controlling influence on his estate. -Yeah. | 0:49:22 | 0:49:26 | |
And he did it expertly, taking very unusual, unconventional steps | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
-to protect the wealth that he'd accumulated from his work. -Yeah. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:37 | |
So, the question of who he left it to, then. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
"I direct my trustees to stand possessed of all my real | 0:49:40 | 0:49:44 | |
"and personal estate in trust for my granddaughter, | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
"Lavinia Alice May Waddicor, daughter of my son, the said Albert." | 0:49:47 | 0:49:54 | |
That's my Auntie May. Why was it left to her? | 0:49:54 | 0:49:59 | |
This must have been done before my mother and my other aunt were born. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
Well, the will's actually written in 1901. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:08 | |
-So... -Well, my mother was born in 1900, I think. | 0:50:08 | 0:50:12 | |
Do you remember exactly when she was born? | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
-Yes, she was born on December 9th 1900. -Right. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
So she was born then. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:21 | |
And there's another? | 0:50:21 | 0:50:23 | |
-Another daughter, Flo, Florence. -Right. | 0:50:23 | 0:50:26 | |
-But they're not mentioned. -They're not. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
I don't understand that at all. There's something strange there. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:37 | |
I would have thought if he was going to leave it to the grandchildren, | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
it would be to all of them, equally divided. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
Yes. That's very strange. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:45 | |
Bill has learnt that his great-grandfather James | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
left his entire estate in trust not to his only son Albert | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
but to just one of his three granddaughters, Bill's Auntie May. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:59 | |
To try and discover why she was singled out, | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
Bill and Mike are checking through Census records for May, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:07 | |
whose full name was Lavinia Alice May. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:11 | |
This is the 1901 Census. | 0:51:11 | 0:51:13 | |
We'll just have a look and see if there are any Lavinia Waddicors. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:17 | |
Lavinia. Waddicor. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:20 | |
Search. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:23 | |
Result - complete negative. | 0:51:23 | 0:51:25 | |
But let's not worry too much about that. | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
We'll run through the names. Let's try Alice. Second name... | 0:51:30 | 0:51:34 | |
Oh! Yes. James Waddicor - head. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:41 | |
Alice - wife. | 0:51:41 | 0:51:43 | |
And then Alice M - daughter. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
Now, the only M is May, and she's four. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:51 | |
So that figures with Auntie May. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:53 | |
-So she lived with her grandparents. -Yes. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:57 | |
-Really, that should say granddaughter. -Yes. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:00 | |
-But it doesn't, it says daughter. -Yes. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
I knew she was special, er, or had to be special, | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
for him to have left all his property to her, there had to be a reason. | 0:52:06 | 0:52:11 | |
So, whether adopted or what... | 0:52:11 | 0:52:13 | |
..she's living with James and his wife Alice. | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
-Yes. -Now, that's the mystery I've been wanting to solve. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
One of the daughters was different. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
And it's obviously Auntie May. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:28 | |
-So she was brought up by her grandparents. -Yes. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
But we don't know why she was in this position. | 0:52:33 | 0:52:37 | |
It must have been a very, very powerful reason, mustn't there? | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Maybe the grandparents were protecting their children. | 0:52:40 | 0:52:43 | |
-Yes. -But they're not... My mother isn't there. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
No. I think we can only speculate. | 0:52:46 | 0:52:47 | |
I can only speculate at this stage. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:49 | |
Let's look at your grandfather's family. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:52 | |
That might give us a better insight into what's going on. So your grandfather is Albert... | 0:52:52 | 0:52:57 | |
Ah, right. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
-Albert Waddicor - head. -Yeah. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
Mary Zillah, his wife. Flo, that's my eldest aunt. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:07 | |
And that's it. | 0:53:07 | 0:53:09 | |
-But where... What year is this? -This is 1901. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:14 | |
Well, my mother was born in 1900. So why wasn't she on that? | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
One would expect perhaps to find your mother with her grandparents. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:23 | |
Yes. Though she isn't. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
-She's not there either. -No. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:29 | |
Let's see if we can find her somewhere else. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
What was your mother's name? | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
My mother's name was Hester Vera. | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
Hester. Hester Waddicor. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
-Hester Waddicor. -There she is. -Yeah. Aged three months, that's right. -Yeah. | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
-That figures. -Born in Blackpool. -Born in Blackpool. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
Born in Blackpool. Who's that? Who are these? | 0:53:49 | 0:53:52 | |
Elijah Stanier and Thomasina. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:55 | |
So, my mother was brought up by somebody else, as well... | 0:53:59 | 0:54:03 | |
..it would seem. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:06 | |
Have you noticed the relationship? | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
-His niece. -Thomasina... -Yeah. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
..and your grandmother were sisters. | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
So your mother spent her early life with her aunt. | 0:54:16 | 0:54:21 | |
Where did they live? Leigh, in Staffordshire. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:25 | |
We're not talking about round the corner, down the road. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
No. Leigh, Staffordshire, was some distance. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
When my mother was only three months... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
She was taken away from the family home for some reason. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:39 | |
Yes. Now, the only reason would be Albert's drinking | 0:54:39 | 0:54:42 | |
and violent behaviour, which my mother did talk about. | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
And a picture is emerging that Albert | 0:54:45 | 0:54:51 | |
is a drunken, violent, horrible man | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
and the minute he has a child it is taken away - | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
because social services didn't operate then - | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
and they're brought up by somebody else. | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
Apart from Flo, who seemed to stand the... She was the first born, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
probably was able to look after herself a bit better, I don't know. | 0:55:07 | 0:55:12 | |
Yeah, I think you're right. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:14 | |
We can only look at the facts as they were recorded | 0:55:14 | 0:55:16 | |
and we can only interpret what we see. | 0:55:16 | 0:55:19 | |
Yeah, but honestly, I really feel for my mother there. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:21 | |
-I feel quite emotional, actually, about this. -I can understand. | 0:55:21 | 0:55:25 | |
She was a lovely person but she never showed love, | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
as I said, never self-pitying. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:31 | |
-It does explain a lot, doesn't it? -It does, actually. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
Going back to the will and the way the children were farmed out. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:37 | |
Maybe your grandmother could cope... | 0:55:37 | 0:55:39 | |
With one. | 0:55:39 | 0:55:40 | |
-..under those circumstances. -Yes. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
The most shocking thing for me was that my mother, at three months - | 0:55:53 | 0:55:59 | |
- three months, probably still being breast fed by Zillah - | 0:55:59 | 0:56:03 | |
was ritually wrenched from her and went to live with Zillah's sister. | 0:56:03 | 0:56:09 | |
I remember my mother as being not tactile and affectionate, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:18 | |
but having understood what she had to go through, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:22 | |
I think she didn't know how to be more openly loving. | 0:56:22 | 0:56:26 | |
I would say that I love her even more now, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
and I would like to have told her that. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
That was a really sad situation. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
To find that the three sisters, my mother, my Auntie May | 0:56:47 | 0:56:51 | |
and my Auntie Flo, didn't live together. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:53 | |
My mother was separated from them. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:56 | |
And why were the two of them so quickly taken away | 0:56:56 | 0:57:00 | |
and given to somebody else? | 0:57:00 | 0:57:03 | |
We don't really know the answer to that, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
but I do believe the root cause, | 0:57:06 | 0:57:09 | |
without any doubt really, in my mind, was Albert. | 0:57:09 | 0:57:12 | |
I could understand why my mother hated Albert. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:18 | |
I was looking for redeeming features for him, but there aren't many. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
But he really paid the price for what he was. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:25 | |
He didn't love anybody, so consequently he wasn't loved. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:29 | |
But in spite that, what is inspiring and encouraging is the strength | 0:57:31 | 0:57:36 | |
of my great-grandfather, James Waddicor, who moved from Darwen | 0:57:36 | 0:57:41 | |
into Blackpool, a burgeoning place. He was very entrepreneurial. | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
He made some money and steered the money around Albert. | 0:57:44 | 0:57:48 | |
And that money went right through the family and carried on. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:52 | |
And what a towering personality Zillah was. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:56 | |
She lived in a man's world, | 0:57:56 | 0:57:58 | |
but she didn't go under because of Albert. On the contrary, | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
she was a successful business woman, entrepreneur. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
She really made a good life for herself. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:08 | |
I've got colossal respect for Zillah's guts and determination. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:15 | |
She was amazing. | 0:58:15 | 0:58:17 | |
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