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One of the things that I love about us Brits | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
is our spirit of generosity. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
If I can give back to somebody who had a similar struggle to my own, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
then that's what I'd like to do. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Last year, nearly three quarters of us gave to charity | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
but what if you had the chance to go back | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
and relive moments from your past? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
I wish I was 18 again! | 0:00:21 | 0:00:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
I'm expecting Mum and Dad to walk out now and say hello, you know? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Yeah. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:28 | |
Moments which would inspire you to want to help someone today. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
I want to give back to those people that are going through that, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
that I went through in the beginning. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
If I can give something to somebody else | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
that will change their lives, I would love to. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
Fantastic. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
Someone who had no idea this life-changing windfall was coming. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
I've got potentially her dream in my hand. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
How are you feeling? | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Nervous. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
'There'll be surprises...' | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
-How are you? -Very good! | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
Thank you so much! | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Thank you. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
'..with acts of generosity that will change people's lives...' | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
I'm really excited. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
We're all crying! | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
-Do you need a hug as well? -Yeah, thanks. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
'..forever.' | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
Brilliant! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:12 | |
Somebody that just does that for people, it's amazing, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
it really is. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
This is Going Back Giving Back. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
Today, I'm going back in history, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
to uncover a really moving story, actually. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
It's a tale of fear and family secrets, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
and I'm hoping that by unlocking these mysteries, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
one person can change another's life forever. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
How will a daughter react when she hears for the first time | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
why her father's illness was kept a secret? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
It was like something that you were ashamed of or it was a stigma. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
Yeah, well, I think people used to think that people were mad. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
But will his story inspire her to make a huge difference | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
to someone else's life today? | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
If you can withstand that, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:04 | |
you can pretty much get through anything in life, can't you? | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Can she make life easier for one brave young girl? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
She was crying a lot, she was very upset, she went to sleep, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and she woke up and she was just completely paralysed. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
'And the tension builds as we prepare for a massive surprise...' | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
They have no idea that we're here, OK? | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Come on, let's go! I can't wait. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
'..with a gift that will transform her life.' | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
-Thank you so much! -It's a great pleasure. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:35 | |
We're about to meet someone from the baby boomer generation, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
someone who was born into the golden age of post-war Britain, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
when there were opportunities at every corner. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
However, for this particular baby boomer, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
what was happening behind closed doors was a very different story. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
63-year-old Anne has made the huge decision to give something back. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
So I have asked her to meet me | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
in the beautiful market town of Abergele, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
in the Welsh countryside. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
Her life today as a former college principal and senior civil servant | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
is a stark contrast to her humble childhood, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
growing up in Moss Side, Manchester. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
-Hi, Anne. -Hi, Aled. -How are you? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-Great to see you. -Great to see you. -What a lovely day. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
It's always like this, isn't it, in North Wales? | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
-It's always like this in Wales, yes. -THEY CHUCKLE | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Anne's desire to help someone is driven by her experiences | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
of growing up with a disabled father. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
It must have been very tough for him. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
-Oh, incredibly. -It was tough for you, of course, as a child | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
-but also... -It was tough for the family. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
As a young child, her dad was extremely ill. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
When he was five, he contracted TB, which left him with a severe limp. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
Despite being physically disabled, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Anne's remarkable dad worked relentlessly in his butcher shop | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
to take care of his young family. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
It was that that's what you did, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
you got on with life and you earned a living. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
You battle through. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:07 | |
I think that that was quite a tough thing to do | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
and a brave thing to do. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
I do admire him for that. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
And my mother, indeed. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Already disabled when Anne was four, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
her father suddenly developed epilepsy, | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
which meant he suffered massive seizures. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
This life-threatening condition was like a ticking time bomb, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
but her family kept it a secret from the outside world. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Your family never really talked about the epilepsy, did they? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
No, epilepsy was never spoken about. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
In fact, I don't even think I heard | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
the word "fit" or "seizure" mentioned. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
But maybe it was because | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
it was something that was a bit of a stigma, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
it was associated with it, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
there was a lot of fear and worry about what it was... | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
and so it was kind of best covered up, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
people didn't really talk about things in the same way then | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
in the '50s and early '60s. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Anne's mum was a strong and constant support to her dad. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
She passed away 15 years ago, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
but her 90-year-old father lives in a residential home near Anne. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:10 | |
It's their resilience and ability to get on with life | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
despite her dad's disabilities | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
that is inspiring Anne to give something back today. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Have you thought about the enormity of what you are doing, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
the fact that you could change somebody's life forever? | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
Um... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
-Well, I... -It's pretty big, isn't it? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
I hope, I hope that... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
..however big a change it is to somebody, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
it does help and it makes a difference. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
In order to focus your mind on the task ahead, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
I think it might be a good idea | 0:05:48 | 0:05:49 | |
if we take a journey back in time as well. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
Are you willing to come with me? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-I'm willing to come with you. -I'm glad you said that. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
-Shall we head off? -OK, let's do that. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
I've parked just over there. Right, here we go. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
We are taking Anne back in time to help her understand | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
where her father's resilience and strength comes from. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
As a family, they hardly talked about his disabilities | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
but his was a childhood blighted with illness. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
I'm hoping that discovering the reality of what her dad went through | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
will reinforce Anne's desire to help someone today. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
So, the million-dollar question - any idea where we are going? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-I think I might have worked it out. -Oh, really? | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Well, because, first of all, Abergele is not a big place, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
and I have just seen a sign that says hospital and... | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
"Abergele" and "hospital" have a particular resonance | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
for me and my family because my father was here from age five. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
As a young child, Anne's father was diagnosed with TB, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
a highly contagious disease. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
From as early as 1911 through to the 1950s, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
patients like Anne's dad were separated from their parents | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and sent to sanatoriums to be treated. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
How long was he there for? | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
I think about five years, from age five to ten. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
I certainly know he went in '31 | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
and I have a picture of him in 1934 | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
and he's aged eight. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
Ah, OK. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
In that picture, he's standing up, for the first time, with his mum | 0:07:34 | 0:07:39 | |
-after three years of laying down... -Goodness me. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
..and not being able to move. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
That must have been pretty momentous. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
I don't think he came home then, I think it was another year or two. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
Today, TB is easily treated with antibiotics but at the time, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
it was believed that fresh air and rest was the best cure, | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
so the children were made to stay in bed at all times. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
In many cases, for years. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
The disease mainly affects the lungs, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
but it can also infect other parts of the body, including bones, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
which is what happened to Anne's dad. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
And what impact did the TB have on him? | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
He was left with a physical disability, | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
in that he had one leg that was longer than the other... | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
-Ah, OK, right. -..so he always had to have his shoes built up. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
By the late 1950s, with the introduction of the BCG vaccination, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
TB became preventable and curable with medical advances | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
so the sanatoriums were closed down. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Guess what, you were right. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
You were very crafty, weren't you? You saw that hospital sign. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
I just noticed, yes. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
This is Anne's first visit to the Abergele Sanitorium. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
So will the revelations of what her father experienced here | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
at such a young age inspire her to want to help someone in need today? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
-How do you feel being here? -What a building, goodness gracious. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
You've only got to imagine that in 1930. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:18 | |
My dad arriving here | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
as a five-year-old little boy with his mum and dad in tow. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
-Must have been terrifying, don't you think? -So scary. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
It probably wasn't a sunny day like this, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
it was probably grey and rainy, and, you know, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
you were going to be left here when your parents go back to Manchester. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
-Goodness. -So would they visit him then? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
I think they did come and visit him but only weekly, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
and if they were lucky, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:45 | |
because I think there was a bus that came from Manchester | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
and brought the parents of all the children that were left here. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
I know my grandfather had a motorbike at some point, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
and they were able to visit, but I think it was weekly visits, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
nothing more than that, maybe even longer. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
It doesn't bear thinking about, does it, these days? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
I mean we're talking pre-National Health Service, aren't we, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
and the understanding of the need of children to be with their parents | 0:10:10 | 0:10:15 | |
to actually make a recovery better in a family environment, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
to be totally separated, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
it really must have felt like Velcro being torn apart, I'm sure. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
Did he ever talk about it? | 0:10:25 | 0:10:27 | |
No, no. Even now, we have to encourage him to say things, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
although he does a lot more now. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
When my sister and I were growing up, | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
we were aware that my dad had been in hospital, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
but he never really mentioned it and he just got on with life, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
so we never asked him about it, obviously. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
-Shall we go and have a little wander? -Yeah, that'd be great. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
-Are you OK? -Yes. -It is quite overwhelming, isn't it? | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
-No, it will be fantastic. -Come on, let's go. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
'This is obviously a very moving visit for Anne. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
'Even today her dad Norman is reluctant to speak | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
'about what life was like for him here, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
'but we've arranged for someone to meet us who remembers it very well.' | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
-I might have a little surprise for you here as well. -Right. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
I hope you like surprises. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
Come and meet this gentleman. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
How are you? | 0:11:16 | 0:11:17 | |
-Very nice to see you. -Nice to see you, sir. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
-Hello. -I'm David. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
-Hello, I'm Anne, good to meet you. -Very nice to meet you. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
David has one thing in common with your father. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
-Right. -Which is? | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-I was an ex-patient here, I was in from 1945 to 1950. -Really? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
-Gosh. -What was it like? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
Well, we knew nothing else. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
And you lay in your bed? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:39 | |
Yeah, just strapped down on a frame. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
-Yeah, that's what Dad says. -Yeah, on a frame, yeah. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
-Strapped down? -Strapped down. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
-The cure at the time was complete stillness and fresh air. -That's right, yeah. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
And that's what you got - strapped down on your frame | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
and shoved out, hail, rain or shine. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
If it was raining, you were under the veranda. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
-If it wasn't, you were out. -Out there. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
The Abergele Sanatorium was opened in 1931, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
specifically to treat children with TB from Manchester. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
The disease thrived in overcrowded industrial slums, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
and reached epidemic proportions in the north-west of England, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
killing tens of thousands of people. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
It was hoped moving children to the countryside would cure them. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
How old were you, David, when you came here? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
-I was...three when I came here. -My dad was five when he came here. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
-Eight when I went out. -Yeah, and Dad was about ten. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
That must have been quite scary, wasn't it? | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
Again, it was all we knew. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
How was it saying goodbye to parents and things like that? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
It was a bit heart-wrenching, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
cos you knew you weren't going to see your mum and dad | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-until next weekend, next Sunday. -That's right. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
It's amazing that you're smiling about it. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
For someone of my generation, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
the idea of being strapped down in your bed and wheeled out, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
as you say, rain or shine, it sounds absolutely horrendous, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
you know, being on your own without your parents. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
Well, you had your mate next door, we were all pals. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
We were like brothers and sisters, you know what I mean? | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
David's parents kept a record of his time at the sanatorium, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
regularly taking photos that depict what it was like here. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
What have you got in here? | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Basically, really, my stuff. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
-That is me in plaster. -Yeah, exactly. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-So, what? They plastered you...? -Oh, yeah. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
Some children with TB had radical operations to fuse joints and bones | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
to stop the disease from spreading. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
It then meant huge parts of their bodies | 0:13:40 | 0:13:42 | |
were covered in plaster while the bones recovered. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
Look at that! I had no idea! | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
That wasn't so bad, really. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:51 | |
The worst part was having your plaster replaced - | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
that was horrible. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
It was like laying in a swamp for two days while you dried out, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
-it was terrible. -So this plaster would be from here... | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
-From here, to here. -Oh, my goodness me. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
-Gives you a bit of insight into what your dad went through. -Doesn't it? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
David's first-hand account is bringing to life | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
what Anne's dad must have experienced from the age of five to ten | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
and I'm hoping will fuel her desire to give something back. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-So where are you going to take us? -I'm going to take you to the ward, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
the babies ward and then the ward that I was on for the duration. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-Where was that, down here? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
So this is where your dad would've been then. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
I know, exactly, in here. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
Even though the sanatorium closed 60 years ago, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
the building has not changed | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
so Anne can see exactly where her father was cared for as a young boy. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
How do you feel, coming here now, knowing this is where your dad was? | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
It is incredibly moving. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
It's very moving to think of these little boys in his case, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
and in your case, David, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
actually lying flat on their backs in beds, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
wheeled in and out, according to the weather, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
but mostly, it sounds as if you were wheeled out | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
because the fresh air was to cure the TB. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
It was stillness and fresh air. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
It's a good explanation to me as to why my dad is so cheerful | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
and so hardy, and I don't know whether you are the same. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
If you can withstand that, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
you can pretty much get through anything in life, can't you, really? | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
And so I think it must have developed incredible resilience. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
David has given Anne a vivid insight into what her dad lived through | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
as a child with TB in the 1930s. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
It's incredible to think how he dealt with his childhood disability | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
with such positivity | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
and Anne can finally understand where her dad's strength comes from, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
and it's what's driving her to want to support somebody today. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-You've been a gentleman, thanks so much. -You're welcome, sir. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
It's been good, hasn't it? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:55 | |
It's been utterly fantastic, thanks so much. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
-So how do you feel now? -Well, what an afternoon. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
I'm deeply moved by having been here, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
very grateful, and it's just fantastic. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It's a magical place, isn't it? | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Has it, in a way, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
reinforced the idea that you want to help other people? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Oh, yeah, this is just inspirational | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
and if I can give something to somebody else | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-that will change their lives, I'd really love to. -Fantastic. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Thank you. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
Coming here to North Wales and to the sanatorium, | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
where her dad spent his early childhood, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
has really impacted on Anne. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
Her dad's always been very guarded about his experiences here. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
For the first time, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:42 | |
I feel that Anne has a clear idea of what he went through. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
This place, obviously, made him the man he is today. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
Armed with a new knowledge of what life was like in a sanatorium | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
has made Anne even more determined to want to help someone. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Coming up, we've been on the hunt for someone | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
whose story will resonate with Anne and we think we've found them. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
She's an inspirational young girl whose childhood, like Anne's dad's, | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
has been overshadowed by disability. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Her family thinks we're making a programme about children with disabilities. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
They have no idea the real reason behind Anne's visit - | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
that they could be in for a life-changing gift from her. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:29 | |
Hello, girls. Hello, Harriet. I'm Anne, nice to meet you. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
So the big question is, how will they get on? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
But first, Anne wants to meet up with a key person | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
who's inspiring her to give back. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Hi, Dad. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
Hi, darling. You OK? | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Good, good. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Anne is visiting her 90-year-old dad Norman | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
at his residential home. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
She's hoping that, finally, | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
he'll open up to her about his time in the sanatorium. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
Look, Dad, thanks for doing this. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
I just want to talk a bit about yesterday when I went to Abergele, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
which I realised I'd never, ever done, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
even though we went to Wales quite a lot. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
Do you remember very much about it? | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
A considerable amount, in various ways. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
After learning about the types of treatment | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
given to children at the sanatorium, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Anne now wants to know exactly what her dad went through. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
I was... | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
..put on a frame. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
Your feet were actually bound and taped | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
and threaded through the bottom of the ring, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
and then it was tipped to an angle of 30, 40 degrees. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
The results of the frame did quite a lot of damage to... | 0:18:50 | 0:18:55 | |
-..the tops of both my feet... -Right. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
..because the actual strappings | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
had bitten themselves into the flesh... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
-Gosh! -..of my feet. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Did you have to go into plaster? | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
Eventually, yes. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
So it must been quite frightening, all of that? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
But TB was just one life obstacle Norman had to deal with. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
His young life continued to be blighted by illness | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
when he developed epilepsy when Anne was just four. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
The treatment he received was brutal. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
The way of treating it in those days | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
was electric shock treatment through the head | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
or possibly injections into the spine. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
-Right. -They tried for a long while to actually get into my spine, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:47 | |
joining the lower regions of my spine | 0:19:47 | 0:19:53 | |
and were not successful | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
and gave it up eventually. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
But it wasn't just a fear of the extreme treatment | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
that made the family keep his epilepsy a secret. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
It was also the social mind-set of the time. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
People didn't really talk about epilepsy then, did they? | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-No, not at all, no. -Is that your recollection of it? | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
-Yes, very much so. -It was like something that you were ashamed of | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
-or it was a stigma? -Yeah. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
Well, people used to think that people went mad. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
Yes, it was associated with madness. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
Because it's a shivery movement, you know? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
The whole body goes, I understand. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
It's only recently that attitudes towards epilepsy have changed. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
For years, there was a huge stigma surrounding the condition, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
and many were left unemployed or sent to workhouses or asylums. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
In the late 19th century, as understanding of the illness grew, | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
epileptic colonies were opened to offer employment and treatment. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Men worked the land and learned trades, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
while women did domestic chores in the home. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
But for Norman, having spent five years in a sanatorium as a child, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
the family lived in fear of him being sent to another institution, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
which explains why he wanted to keep his condition a secret. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
Dealing with TB and dealing with epilepsy... | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
..are two big barriers in life. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Well, yes, I suppose they are in some ways. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
All I can say is that you've got a very positive attitude | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
to dealing with what many people would feel | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
is huge adversity and a huge blow to life. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
The way you've dealt with those, I think, is truly inspirational | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
and I think you should acknowledge that. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
Well, if that's a help to anybody, I don't mind. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
It's been a great help to me. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:50 | |
I really was quite moved by talking to my father. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
I was moved by how much, in a way, he has | 0:22:01 | 0:22:07 | |
affected me and my desire to want to help another. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:13 | |
So I'm very motivated to help somebody else now. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Going back and understanding what her dad went through as a child | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
has been emotional for Anne. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
You've only got to imagine my dad arriving here | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
as a five-year-old little boy. It must have been... | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
-So scary! -..terrifying, don't you think? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
And she's finally discovered why his epilepsy was kept a family secret. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
People used to think that people went mad. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Yes, it was associated with madness. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
Uncovering all this has helped focus her mind. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
This is just inspirational, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
and if I can give something to somebody else | 0:22:54 | 0:22:56 | |
-that will change their lives, I'd really love to. -Fantastic. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
I think this has been a real revelation for Anne, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
learning about the treatment her father received at the sanatorium | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and the fear he must have felt about being sent back to an institution | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
because of his epilepsy. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
It's no wonder his family kept his disabilities a secret. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
Anne's father showed real courage trying to live | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
as normal a life as possible. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
And it's this strength, I reckon, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
that's driving Anne on to want to give something back today. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
Of course, there are many people | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
who could benefit from Anne's generosity | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
but we've found someone whose story, we think, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
will strike a chord with Anne. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
They are a family determined to live life regardless of their situation. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
They're a remarkable family. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
Hi, baby! | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
In a Northamptonshire village lives Harriet, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
a severely disabled child who relies entirely on her mum, Jane, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
and sisters Sophie, 19, Chloe, 17, and Emmylou, who's nine. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
12-year-old Harriet has an extremely rare genetic disorder. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
Although she has the mind of a 12-year-old, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
she's trapped in her body and unable to use her limbs, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
hold up her head or speak. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
Just like Anne's dad, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:22 | |
Harriet's childhood has been overshadowed with disability, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
albeit on a much more severe scale. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
But while Anne's dad was sent away from his parents | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
to an institution to be cared for, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
Harriet is surrounded by a loving and inspirational family. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
And just like Anne's mum was a constant support | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
to her disabled father, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
Harriet's mum, Jane, is her family's rock. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
With these parallels, we've arranged for them to meet. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
It feels a bit strange, but I'm excited | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and I'm apprehensive, and I'm curious. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
And I hope it's going to be lovely to meet them. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
This is a hugely important meeting, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
which could transform this family's life. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
Let's hope Anne feels a connection between them. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
-Hi, Jane, I'm Anne. -Nice to meet you. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
-Thank you for having us here. -That's all right, come in. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Hi, girls. Hello. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
Hello, Harriet, I'm Anne, nice to meet you. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
-This is Emmylou. -Nice to meet you, Emmylou, as well. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
It's great to be here, thank you for having us. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Mum Jane thinks we're making a programme about children with disabilities. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Do you fancy a cup of tea? | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
I'd love a cup of tea, Jane, thank you. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
-We can sit in the garden, actually, and have a chat out there. -That would be delightful. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Do you want to carry on playing the computer? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
Jane has absolutely no idea | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
that she could be in for a generous gift to help Harriet. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
So, you know, your life changed drastically then, 12, 13 years ago. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:07 | |
So just tell me a little bit about that. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
So, Harriet was fine when she was born. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
Normal baby, nothing wrong with her at all. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
And at nine months old, she developed a tremor | 0:26:17 | 0:26:23 | |
and it didn't go away so we took her to the doctors. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
The GP, obviously, had a very good idea | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
that it was something to do with the brain, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
because he spoke to the hospital immediately and got her straight in. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
They did CT scans and everything immediately. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
But, by the next day, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
her hand had actually set itself like that and didn't move again. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-My goodness. -She came home after a couple of weeks, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
and literally 24 hours later, her other hand started doing that. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Oh... | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
They could not find what it was that was causing it. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
They knew it was in the brain. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
Doctors were completely baffled. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
But then, things took a devastating turn for the worse | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
for little Harriet. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:01 | |
She was crying a lot, she was very upset. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
She went to sleep and she woke up, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
and she was just completely paralysed. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
Oh, my goodness. And that was just overnight? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Yeah. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:13 | |
Within the space of a few hours, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
nine-month-old Harriet was struck down by this mysterious illness. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
Jane's world was turned upside down. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
So, suddenly, she was like a newborn baby again - | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
couldn't hold her head up, couldn't sit up, couldn't do anything. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Didn't speak, she lost... | 0:27:29 | 0:27:30 | |
Not that she could talk, obviously, but she was babbling, you know? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
And she couldn't do any of that at all. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Absolutely devastating, shock, and everything else. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
It took five years for Harriet to be finally diagnosed | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
with a rare genetic disorder | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
that's only been found in less than 50 other people in the world. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
But Harriet's family just try and get on with it | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
and despite her severe disability, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Harriet is happy, extremely resilient, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
and adored by her sisters. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
She definitely has a personality. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
Even though she doesn't speak, her personality definitely comes across. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
She's got a funny sense of humour. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
-She's always smiling, which is amazing. -Yeah. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
We love her to pieces. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:17 | |
Harriet's sisters and Jane clearly worship her. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
But as she's unable to communicate, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
it can be challenging and heartbreaking at times. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
She's beautiful. She's a normal, little 12-year-old inside that head, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
stuck in a body that won't do as it's told. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
When she's upset, trying to work out what it is... | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
-It's very difficult. -..is it emotional? | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
Is it because her TV programme's finished or someone died in it? | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
Is it because she's hurting? | 0:28:43 | 0:28:44 | |
If she's hurting, where is she hurting? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Is it her stomach? It could be her shoe rubbing. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
Because, before we know, we've gone through everything, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
taken her and got her ready for bed, and she's got a blister on her foot. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
And I feel, it makes me cry, because I'm thinking I've let her down, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
you know what I mean? And it's the stress and the worry of that. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
If she could just talk! | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Then... Oh, that sounds awful, doesn't it? | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
Jane is a single mum who gave up full-time work | 0:29:09 | 0:29:12 | |
as a company general manager to be Harriet's main carer. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
And she has a lot to contend with, hoisting Harriet in and out of bed, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
giving her medication through a stomach pump, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
feeding and changing her, | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
but Jane just gets on with everything without complaining, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
earning massive respect from her daughters, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
just like Anne felt with her mother. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
There are so many things that she does for Harriet that | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
no-one could ever dream of the amount of things that she does. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
All I do is make her laugh. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
That's our job, we make her laugh. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
She does so much on her own. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
With us three and Harriet, a fully dependent child, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
she just does so well. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
The way Jane and the girls cope with such adversity - | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
and indeed, Harriet, who always has a smile on her face - | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
is really resonating with Anne. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
The way you have responded to this, and your family, the girls, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:10 | |
is incredibly inspiring, isn't it? | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
I mean, you just seem to get on with it and deal with it. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
We don't have a choice. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
I mean, a lot of people say, "Jane, how do you deal with it?" | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
I mean, you know... | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
It's your daughter, you don't have a choice. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
Anne's main focus now is to find out | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
how she could help this inspirational family | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
and make life easier for Harriet. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
So, Jane, with all that you contend with, | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
what would make a difference to your lives, in fact? | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
Both of you, and the family's? | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
There's a lot of little, simple things that would make a difference. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
She's had this hip replacement | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
and while she was in a lot of pain before she had it done, | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
and while she was recovering, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
the school very kindly lent us this chair. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
It's on wheels, it's got a base | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
and this big beanbag that you position her into. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
Sadly, they were only able to borrow the special chair for a few weeks. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
They can't afford to buy one themselves, | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
but it would make all the difference to Harriet. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
So she can be comfy, we can strap her in, she's safe, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
and we can wheel her around. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:15 | |
And she can be in the lounge with us, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
instead of being in a rigid chair. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
-So she'd have her wheelchair as well. -Yeah. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
It's just like a chair. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:24 | |
It's ideal for someone like Harriet. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
The way Jane and her family deal with Harriet's disability | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
has had a big impact on Anne | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
and this meeting has been pivotal in her desire to give something back. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
Jane, thanks so much, it's been so lovely to meet you. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Lovely to meet you too. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
It's always nice to have a chinwag. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
Well, indeed. Especially in the garden, when it's been so nice. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
-Take care then. -Lovely to meet you, bye, Anne. -Bye. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
I was very moved by Jane's tenacity... | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
and it reminded me of my own mother, who also was a feisty fighter... | 0:32:04 | 0:32:12 | |
..and didn't let things get her down. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
She could keep things going for the family | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
and that, very much, is how Jane is. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
She, clearly, is devoted, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
as you would be, to all her children | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
and she's devoted to Harriet's care | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
and I find that profoundly moving and inspirational. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Anne's obviously been hugely moved meeting Jane | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
and hearing all about Harriet | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
and how the family have coped looking after her. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
But before making up her mind whether she can help them, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
Anne's going to discuss this important decision | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
with one of her oldest friends. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
Michael, I've been on such a journey, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
I've got to tell you. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
It started on Sunday, when I went back to Abergele, in North Wales, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
-where my father had been with his TB for five years. -OK. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
So I've been uncovering a little bit of the origins | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
-of some of his disabilities and difficulties. -Right, OK. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
Then, I've just come from meeting Jane and her daughter Harriet | 0:33:16 | 0:33:23 | |
and Harriet's sisters, one of Harriet's sisters, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
and their story is very similar, in some ways, as a family... | 0:33:27 | 0:33:32 | |
to what I experienced. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
So there's a resonance there? | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
Well, there is, and it has been interesting to watch how Jane, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:43 | |
as the mum in this family, has dealt with disability | 0:33:43 | 0:33:49 | |
and it kind of reminds me of my mum | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
and how she coped with things when my father got disabled, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:56 | |
as well as, of course, how my dad, as a disabled person, | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
also deals with things now. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
He's incredibly resilient, and this young 12-year-old, Harriet, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
who I've met today, is also a very spirited and resilient person. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
Gosh. How interesting! | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
-Tell me more, tell me more. -It has been fascinating. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Well, this is it. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:19 | |
The next step now is that Jane and Harriet | 0:34:19 | 0:34:26 | |
are really, very much, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
in need of just a few things that would make their lives a lot easier. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:33 | |
I was just wondering what you thought, really? | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
You've actually been through the same process | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
in your life, haven't you? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
And I can certainly see that helping an individual, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
well, I think it would be fantastic! | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
I want to do this, there's no doubt about it. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
If you can do it, do it. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:50 | |
-All right? -Thank you. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
Having Michael's support and knowing dad Norman | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
has also given his blessing are crucial for Anne. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
By introducing her to Jane and Harriet, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
we've found a family that have been facing adversity | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
like she and her family experienced. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
We've gone back - now Anne needs to move forward. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
She has a hugely important decision to make - | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
how can she help make life easier for Harriet? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
It's the last thing left for her to do. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
It's been a week since Anne and I visited North Wales, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and during that time, she's met up with Harriet and her family. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
It must have been like looking in the mirror for Anne, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
seeing how determined Harriet and her family are | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
to just get on with it and live as normal a life as possible. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
It must have really resonated with Anne. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
After all, that's what her own father wanted. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
Shall we find out how she's feeling | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
and ask her the million-dollar question - | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
is she ready to change someone's life? | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
Anne's waiting for me around the corner from where Jane, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
Harriet and her sisters are enjoying a picnic. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Time to find out exactly what Anne's decided. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
-Hey, Anne, how lovely to see you. -Hi! Good to see you. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
-How are you? -I'm very well, thanks. -You got the teas in as well! | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
-I have indeed, yes. -Thank you very much. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
So, you've seen Harriet and her family, haven't you? | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
I have. I've met Jane and Harriet and her sisters. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
-How did it go? -It was fabulous. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
It was really, really good. Very inspiring and very moving. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
Have you decided what you're going to do? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
-I have. -Go on, tell me! | 0:36:27 | 0:36:29 | |
I won't keep you in suspense any longer then. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
What will make Harriet's life a lot easier | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
is if she has one of these special seats. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
-Wow. -It looks like a sort of padded beanbag, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
but it's actually on wheels, moves around the sitting room | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
and, principally, what it does is it helps cushion her, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
so that as she's moving around, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
her head can be held, she can be very comfy. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Got you. Yeah, it looks very comfortable. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
And I suppose this will include her in the family? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
Precisely. I mean, she wants to be able to sit | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
with the family and watch TV. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
It's a small thing to give, isn't it, really, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
to make that possible. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:05 | |
How much does it cost? | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
It costs £1,900. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
-Wow. -Specialist piece of kit, you see. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
That's a huge amount of money. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
It is a lot of money but it will, I think, make a huge difference... | 0:37:15 | 0:37:21 | |
because, at the moment, Harriet is stuck in a wheelchair all the time | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
and if she gets out of that, she has to go and sit on the sofa, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
the sofa can't hold her up properly - | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
this will just make it comfy, safe and stable. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
Well, that's very, very kind of you. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:36 | |
I've got a letter, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
and this tells Jane and Harriet what I'm going to do. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
I can't wait to see their faces. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:42 | |
It's going to make a big difference to her life, isn't it? | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
-Do you think so? -And not just hers, but, as you say, Jane, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
and all the other kids. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:48 | |
I know they're having a picnic around the corner. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
-Shall we go and surprise them? -Why not? | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
-Come on, let's go. -Thank you. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:53 | |
It's the big moment - | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
owning up to Jane, Harriet and her family what we've really been up to, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
and discovering how Harriet's life is going to change. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
So, just how are they going to react to all this? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
Listen, Anne, they're having a picnic just over there. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
They have no idea that we're here, OK? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-How are you feeling? -Excited, nervous | 0:38:14 | 0:38:18 | |
but I think it's going to be a great surprise. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
-It is, isn't it? Come on, let's go for it. -I can't wait! | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
Right. Are you ready? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
Here we go! | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
-Hello. -Hello. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
How are you? Hi, I'm Aled Jones... | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
I know, I recognise you! | 0:38:33 | 0:38:34 | |
..from the BBC. Nice to see you. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
-Hello! -Hello! -Nice to see you! | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
Lovely to see you again, Jane. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
You haven't met my oldest two, this is Chloe and Sophie. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
You thought we were doing a programme | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-just about children and disability, didn't you? -Yeah. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
Well, it's not the full story, is it? | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
-I've got make-up on, don't make me cry, OK? -Oh, Jane! | 0:38:55 | 0:39:00 | |
It was so lovely to meet you two | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
and I just wanted to bring you this letter today. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
It's for you. I just wondered if you might open it, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
and if you would read it out to us? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
"Dear Jane, it was lovely to meet you and your girls this week. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
"Thank you so much having us in your home | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
"and also for telling me about Harriet's condition | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
"and the way you have dealt with it. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:24 | |
"I wanted you to know how moved I was by the cheerful | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
"and determined way you and your family manage Harriet's disability. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:32 | |
"It is both humbling and amazing." | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
HARRIET LAUGHS | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
She just laughs at everything! | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
"And inspired, no doubt, | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
"by Harriet's own resilience, spirit and sense of humour. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:46 | |
"As I mentioned to you, my own father is disabled. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
"The way in which you and Harriet cope | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
"with what life has thrown at you | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
"reminds me of the way my own parents dealt with things. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
"When we met, you told me there was one thing | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
"that could make Harriet's life a little bit more comfortable. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
"Therefore I'd like to offer to pay | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
"£1,900 for the special seat you need for Harriet. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
"If I could help you in this way, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
"it would give me an opportunity | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
"to make a small difference in your life. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
"I hope you will accept my gift. Best wishes, Anne." | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
You're just laughing because I'm crying! | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
I hope you will accept it. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
We're all crying! | 0:40:24 | 0:40:25 | |
-It's a lovely thing, isn't it? -Thank you so much! | 0:40:27 | 0:40:30 | |
It's a great pleasure. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
Sorry to surprise you. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:35 | |
Sorry, sorry! | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
What difference is that going to make for you? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
It's going to make life so much easier. She loved having it. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
-I don't know if you've seen it? -I have, yeah. -You've seen it? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
-Yes, I've shown him some pictures. -It's fantastic. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
And she was so comfortable in it, weren't you, Harriet? | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
It means she's got her own armchair-type thing in the lounge, | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
and it can be wheeled about, can't it? | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Aw, you're so excited! | 0:40:57 | 0:40:58 | |
THEY CHUCKLE | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
And so you can watch TV together and everything else? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
It's like she's got her own chair in the lounge, | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
because she has to sit in this... | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Well, we tried putting her on the sofa, she just can't... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
She just slides out and everything. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:12 | |
Well, listen, I'm glad that you're happy | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
and I'm glad that you're happy as well. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:17 | |
I'm so glad you're happy! | 0:41:17 | 0:41:18 | |
We'll leave you to it, we don't want to spoil your picnic. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
-Very nice to see you. -Thank you, lovely to meet you, girls. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
And you enjoy your chair, OK? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
-Thank you. -All the best. -Lovely to meet you. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Nice to see you all. All the best. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
-Oh, sweetheart. -Thanks, Jane. We'll be in touch. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
We'll be in touch, and I'll stay in touch, yeah. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
-Don't worry. -Please do. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:36 | |
Bye, Harriet. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
See you soon, darling. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:39 | |
-Bye, girls. -Bye, guys. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
-Lovely to see you. -Thank you, lovely to meet you, bye. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
My brain couldn't process everything that was going on at the time, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
because I'm here with the kids and it's very, very surreal. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
It was a surprise, yes! | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
It felt great, actually. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
They clearly, clearly needed it. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
I'm very happy to give it | 0:42:05 | 0:42:06 | |
and they were also surprised and pleased, I think, really, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
to get something for Harriet so I'm thrilled I did this. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
I'm so excited... It's lovely. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
It's really, really... For people... | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
I mean, Anne... | 0:42:19 | 0:42:20 | |
I mean, what can I say? | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Somebody that just does that for people, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
it's just amazing, it really is. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
It's amazing. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
It's just going to make such a difference. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
It's been an absolutely fantastic experience to go on this journey. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
I've learned a lot, I've met so many interesting people, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
and it's ended here with Harriet and Jane, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
and I'm able to do something for Harriet which is just terrific. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
Seeing Harriet's, Jane and the girls' reaction | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
to Anne's generosity was something so special, wasn't it? | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
Much like Anne's own family, | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
they've shown great courage and resilience over the years | 0:43:01 | 0:43:03 | |
and now, life's got a little bit easier for all of them, | 0:43:03 | 0:43:06 | |
especially Harriet. And, boy, does she deserve it. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
What an inspirational and uplifting end to the programme. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
And the great news is, since we met Harriet, | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
her special chair has now arrived, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
and she's a very happy girl. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 |