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Now on BBC News it is time for Our World.

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It was a shocking crime that happened back in 1992. A newly

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engaged British woman, eight to arrest, murdered in the streets of

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New Orleans. But what followed was an astonishing miscarriage of

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justice. There are not any other cases I know when somebody has been

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committed a crime that somebody has already been convicted of. And we

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had all of the evidence from the witnesses that only one person could

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have committed that crime. To people who did not know each other were

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both in prison for killing the woman. Who really committed the

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crime and why was the other forgotten behind bars. The fact that

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this was wrongly convicted did not sit with me well at all. Hackwood

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the American justice system have got it so wrong -- how could?

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Began on the 14th of April 1992. Julie and her boyfriend were walking

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back to their hotel in the quiet streets of this city's famous French

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Quarter. Unknown to them a crime spree had been taking place. He said

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it give me everything you have got, I'm going to kill you. I heard shots

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ring out and I said they have got somebody. And he had to. The gunmen

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had confronted the tourists leaving truly dead on the road. It was left

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to do the detective to try and piece together what had happened. Asuna

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SEK Matty jumped out pointed a gun at them and demanded money or

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whatever. They did not understand that that was a robbery and they

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were trying to work out what was happening -- as soon as he got out

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he jumped out. Then he drove his car and got away. It hit the headlines

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here in New Orleans but back in the UK it was a page news as well. One

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newspaper offered a huge reward to try and catch the killer. The

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detective said that that kind of money led to a deluge of calls from

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the public. Finally the police received one that might be of

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interest. At the tip came in and the caller remained anonymous and

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identified three guys. Because it was so soon after the murder and the

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way they were describing certain things they thought that they may

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have been involved with the murder. That was one leader we checked out

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pretty hard. Amongst those names was Robert Jones. Police decided to

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act. We just heard noise everywhere and people demanding that we open up

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the door. In the middle of the night they surrounded Robert's home. We

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watch them with their big guns in they made everybody get on the

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floor. Even the kids. It was total chaos. You know we were tried at

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what was going on. It is over and done with the Robert Jones. The next

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thing that came to knew is that she was watching Robert being marched to

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jail accused of murder. It was horrible. Everybody was in tears and

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crying and in disbelief because we never would have thought that nobody

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would come here and arrest Robert the -- for murder. Was there a

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moment that they thought may be Robert had done something wrong?

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Know I did not. -- no. What made you think that? Because of the type of

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person he was. He would not hurt anyone. Robert Jones had previously

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been suspected of drug offences though he never had a conviction.

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Some in the UK media thought they had got their man. They were

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triumphant claiming credit for the arrest. But detectives had huge

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doubts. The media knew that we arrested him but I thought the

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headlines got a little overblown because from our perspective, the

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task force guys, we knew there was a lot more work to do. We had a hard

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time tying him back to the scene. The murder of Julie Stott was part

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of a crime scene was happening here. Robberies rape and killing. In

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each case there was a certain descriptions of the card was used

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and the attacker. An early indication of Rob Jones is not that

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man is an after his arrest, the crime spree continued. Detectors

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felt they finally got a real way through when they found a car to

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match the very distinctive description. It do not belong to

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Robert Jones but to Lester Jones who is no relation. When he was

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arrested, the crime spree did and. -- end. He was found possession of

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the jewellery is in the robberies and rape and one other major piece

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of evidence. With found a murder weapon and had the gun examined. The

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ballistic sky was able to tie the gun back to him. Arab opinion was

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that we can tie Leicester to everything and we did not tie Robert

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to anything. And what about tying the two of them together? We tried

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that but we could not. There was no links. They were 12 years apart in

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age to that was nothing to tie them together. Lester Jones was convicted

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of Julie Stott's murder and sent to jail. But Robert Jones was never

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released. In fact, four years after he was first arrested in a trial

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that lasted less than ten hours, astonishing as it sounds, Robert

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Jones was also sent to prison for crimes in the same spree that Lester

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Jones had already been convicted of, rape, armed robbery and the

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killing of Julie Stott. This is a pre- call from Robert. An inmate of

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the Louisiana penitentiary. The first time we spoke to Robert was on

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the phone since that fateful day in the courthouse, he had been in

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Louisiana's prison. Do you remember the moment that the verdict was

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announced and how you felt at that moment? I could not put it in

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words. That is amazing. When did he do

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this? This was sometime beginning of last year. Robert's daughter was

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born eight months after he went to jail. She doesn't have any

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photographs of him so he painted her a picture from prison. Have there

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been particular moments when you wish he was here right now? There

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has been a lot of them. From when I was younger. I'm 22 years old now

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and I'm still young but it is like that I see my friends and they have

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their mother and a father. They can ride bikes and go out to eat and

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spend time with them. I never really had him. I had him but I did not

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have him. We always kept a relationship going and we would talk

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on the phone, but you are here but you are not here. So I did not

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really know how to feel. Why don't they let him come home? It has been

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all this time. Every year I'm thinking he will be home this year.

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But now I have graduated high school and now I'm about to graduate

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college but I still need my father. So why did he end up in prison and

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we wanted to find the people who put him in there. We have been trying to

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locate Robert's lawyer who has been accused of incompetence during the

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trial but he never returned our calls. After several minutes of his

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doorstep I noticed movement inside the car. Excuse me I'm looking for

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Mr Atkins. It showed that he failed to grasp that another man had been

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already convicted of the crime is -- convicted in the same spree. I did

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represent him and did not get a free. What people are on the site

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criticising me saying you could have done this and that, they did not

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spend the time and they could've gone down there and represented

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him. You don't feel any responsibility to him being in

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jail? I did the best I could represent an Robert Jones at the

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time. And I think he got the best representation he could have

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gotten. Lawyers from the charity Project New

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Orleans say it wasn't just mistakes by his lawyer that meant Robert went

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to prison but something more sinister. There aren't any other

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cases I know where someone has been convicted of a crime that someone

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else has already been convicted of and where all the evidence from the

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witnesses at the scene for just one person only committed that crime. It

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was a pretty extraordinary circumstance. The very frustrating

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thing about Robert's case is that all of the people who are

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prosecuting it in the first instance in the early 1990s turned a blind

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eye to the fact that it was Lester Jones who had committed the crime

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and even more then turned a blind eye, deliberately but held that

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evidence from the jury and continued to prosecute Robert because they

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could come about as they should have but because they could. When you

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look at Robert's case it does involve some of the clearest

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indications of innocence but also wrongdoing on the half of

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prosecutors that I've seen in any case. It has now been shown state

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prosecutors withheld important evidence at Robert Jones' trial.

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Some of that evidence is still coming to light now. They also told

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a jury that Robert Jones and Lester Jones were friends even though

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detectives had said that wasn't true. Inside the grand new Orleans

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courthouse, Wi Calvin Johnson, the judge who presided over Robert 's

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trial -- we met. Robert Jones, at the very least, in terms of how his

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trial played out in front of me, I can believe the way Plato based on

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what we could do, that it played out in a fairway -- played out. So I

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don't... It... The fact that he was wrongly convicted and is in jail for

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something that he didn't do is not on me. He told us state prosecutors

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skewed evidence to prevent a compelling case framing Robert

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Jones. But why? Judge Johnson said at the time the state steam to beat

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-- seem to be trying to put a behind bars as many young black men as

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possible. That was the driving thing in this town in this area for

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decades before Robert Jones and since Robert Jones. It has changed

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some but not totally changed. In that how we operate the criminal

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justice system in Louisiana, or for that matter how we operate that

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criminal justice system across the South, where race is such an issue,

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you see the same things play out. What does it say that he's still, 23

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years after he was arrested, he's still in prison? What does that say

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about how much he is valued? Well, he isn't. And the way we look at the

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Robert Jones case, if he didn't do this, he did something else and

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therefore got away with doing something else, and therefore his

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punishment is not justified for this particular act, it's justified for

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other things he did or would have done down the road. An extraordinary

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admission, to say black men were being put away because the

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authorities felt they had probably done something to deserve prison,

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even if that wasn't the crime at hand. Attila to African-Americans

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living in New Orleans and they won't be the slightest surprised and it is

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hard to prove definitively. What is clear is that for many years, what

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ever the reason, there was something badly wrong with the justice system

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in this city. This is not the only case. There have been other cases

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where prosecutors either intentionally or negligently

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withheld evidence. So I don't think there is a question about that. The

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best I can do is, let's move forward. From this point, from the

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moment I took office, what we said we were going to do is, those things

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are not going to happen. We are going to do the very best we can to

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see to it that every person who comes into the justice system in New

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Orleans parish is treated fairly. But that didn't stop the district

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attorney fighting against any court ruling that Robert Jones' trial was

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unfair. In summer 2015, the Supreme Court finally dismissed the state's

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appeals, saying Robert had not had a fair trial. And in November, 23

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years and seven months after he was first arrested, members of Robert's

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family waited outside New Orleans parish jail for him finally to be

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released. CHEERING. It'll be all right. What was

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yesterday like, walking out? It was wonderful. It's a beautiful

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feeling. It was something I always talk about actual a couldn't have

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dreamed that feeling. -- it was something I always... Actually I

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couldn't have dreamed that feeling. It was beautiful up quite what do

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you remember -- beautiful. What do you remember yesterday? This burden

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of being incarcerated all those years was lifted. It was like I

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wanted to fly. If you tried to explain what it is like to be in

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prison for something that you weren't guilty of, how can you

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explain to others what that felt like? A complete nightmare

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actually. A real nightmare. It was... You can't find a word in the

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dictionary to describe the cruelty that is in someone's mind in dealing

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with something like that. Prison life is just rough, you know? It is

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a deeper injustice when you're in innocent -- innocent. How did you

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get through it? My faith in God. And I developed a system of just

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grabbing onto the positive things that happened in my life through the

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course of the years. It is a true saying, the truth will set you free

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one day when you can find it and that was the problem for us. As well

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as for me, finding the truth. The truth was buried so deep. But in

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spite of all that has come to light since his conviction, Robert is not

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in the clear yet. The district attorney is still insisting he faces

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a retrial. If the defendant does not receive a fair trial, then he is

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entitled to have any conviction that may have resulted from that vacated

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and then we proceed to give him a fair trial. I think sometimes people

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equate the fact that someone did not receive a fair trial with the fact

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that the defendant may be innocent. But Robert's lawyers feel on the

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basis of what we know today, the district attorney should dismiss his

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case. One that should never have gone to trial in the first place.

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The evidence that was withheld is not some evidence about fairness. It

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is not a little bit of evidence that might tip the balance. It was

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evidence that Lester Jones did the crime. It is not some technicality

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that means he didn't get a fair trial. The district attorney's

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office over several attorneys and several years withheld key evidence

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from Robert Jones' defence. Robert Jones now, having to defend himself

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against charges of a crime that happened when tea four years ago, it

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will underlay cripple his defence because the state refused to comply

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with the Constitution when they tried him the first time. Robert

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says he is determined to carry on the fight to officially clear his

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name and get justice. Say for instance there is a guy living in a

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bad neighbourhood and pulled out of pistol until some guy and you look

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at him as a cold blooded murderer -- killed some guy. But you have a

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district attorney who would withhold crucial evidence from a guy, take

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his life, sent him to prison, and most guys that die in prison or

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innocent people. What's the difference? The downside is I

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watched a lot of guys die in prison. A lot. I watched a lot of

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guys die in prison. A lot of them were my good friends, also. And

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Robert counted 39 prisoners he knew in his 23 years in prison who he was

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convinced were innocent and who died behind bars. How many Robert Jones

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like people do you think are in prison? In Louisiana and the South,

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our justice system is replete with them, replete with individuals who

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because of how the justice system was operated over the last decades,

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pick a number, we have ended up with people who were wrongly prosecuted,

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convicted, who had mountains of evidence not provided which could

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have exonerated them. We ended up with this in America. My case is

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given a lot of guys hope because of the fact that they know I'm going to

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stand up and fight to the end. And it gives them hope. It gives them an

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opportunity to create a better system for them. That is another

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avid thing that actually gives me strength, to fight for a lot of

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those guys also. That his mushroom with pesto. Remarkably, Robert says

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in spite of his 23 years in prison for what he didn't do, he's not

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bitter or angry. But he does justice and assurances other people won't go

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through what he did. But that is a tall order and Robert still has to

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clear his own name in a retrial. Having dissected this particular

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wrongful conviction and having got a sense of what he took away from

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Robert Jones, it is shocking to think this is being played out so

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many more times, and in cases where this is -- innocence is not so

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obvious, the truth is buried even deeper.

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The weekend is upon us and the weather is not looking too bad. Rein

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in the forecast but as far

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